Corruption, Political Correctness & Anti White Racism - London UK

John Kroeger - Dti - Beyond Bricks - Department of Trade and Industry

John Kroeger, Programme Manager
Internet Mentoring Initiative and Digital Content,
Computer Games Industry Sponsorship,
DTI Communications and Information Industry Directorate.

020 7215 1380 Dir.
020 7215 1370 Fax
151 Buckingham Palace Road
London SW1W 9SS

This conversation between myself and Guardian reporter Mr Colin Blackstock, took place on Wednesday 1st May 2002 @ about 10 pm, and this document was emailed to him at this address home@guardian.co.uk

Not long after, my site trackers told me that this site had been visited by the Guardian.
http://www.guardian.co.uk

Dear Colin Blackstock,

Thank you for taking the time to listen to me on the phone a few moments ago.
As a Brirtish White person making complaints about minority group racism, I am not used to this level of civility, thank you again !
As I explained to you , the best way that I can explain to you why I vote BNP, is to give you the address of my political website, www.SeanBryson.Com This will explain everything.

However, the details below are not yet in place on that website, but will be !

Thank you again for your "non PC" honesty.

Sean Bryson


----- Original Message -----
From: Sean Bryson
To: BNP_Supporters_Group@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 7:23 PM
Subject: For The Record / Fw: Our tel/con

To All !

No mention of politics was ever made by me during my brief membership of www.beyondbricks.com
Politics was introduced by the all powerfull PC brigade and self interested minority interests to futher frustrate my life as highlighted on my political website www.SeanBryson.Com

It was other people who introduced the above address of my political website.

It was, and still is my aim to get of the ground my commercial website, www.NottingHillNews.Com

If you look at the address's / URL's of some of these people you will find that their (Minority) business interests are literally on my home doorstep !
What a coincidence !!!!

Sean Bryson


----- Original Message -----
From: Kroeger John (Mr J)
To: 'NottingHillNews.Com'
Cc: 'Andrew Sell'
Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 6:31 PM
Subject: RE: Our tel/con

Dear Mr Bryson,

I have completed my review of your request to be readmitted to the community area on the BeyondBricks website, and having taken advise from DTI colleagues, including our legal advisers, I will not be recommending to the BeyondBricks consortium, who run the site on DTI's behalf, that your request is granted. As operator the Consortium have the right to determine who may use it and on what terms.

The purpose of the site is to provide a resource for internet entrepreneurs. It is to encourage the growth and success of e-businesses. You are not using it for this purpose. Indeed there are strong indications that your presence in the community discussions is deterring legitimate users. There are reasonable grounds for believing that if you were readmitted your actions would continue to be detrimental.

I consider this matter closed.
John Kroeger, Programme Manager
Internet Mentoring Initiative and Digital Content,
Computer Games Industry Sponsorship,
DTI Communications and Information Industry Directorate.
020 7215 1380 Dir.
020 7215 1370 Fax
151 Buckingham Palace Road
London SW1W 9SS
Have a look and register on the community section of www.beyondbricks.com, especially if you are an Internet Entrepreneur

-----Original Message-----
From: NottingHillNews.Com [mailto:nottinghillnews.com@ntlworld.com]
Sent: 25 April 2002 09:49
To: Kroeger John (Mr J)
Subject: Re: Our tel/con

Dear Mr Kroeger

The content of my website has not been toned down, in fact more of the same content has been added in the past couple of months.
I am surprised that my accusers have not kept copies to use as ammunition.

I will not give you the details of the people at the DTi who I have contacted, or their replies.

The members of Beyond bricks are all fully grown consenting adults and do not need to be chaperoned by anyone. They can make up their own minds about me and ignore me, or not, as they deem fit.

In this country we are considered innocent untill proven guilty.
What am I guilty of, that I should be denied complete access to Beyondbricks ??
There is a serious principle at stake here Mr Kroeger

And I will repeat.......
At no time was it I, who introduced a political element into my presence at Beyondbricks.

Politics was introduced by other people.

Sean Bryson

----- Original Message -----
From: Kroeger John (Mr J)
To: 'NottingHillNews.Com'
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 2:28 PM
Subject: RE: Our tel/con

Mr Bryson,

It does not matter to me that you may have different opinions from my own. I find your "political" site more boring than offensive, and frankly do not have time to make more than rather snap judgments on websites in general. There are so many out there, some really useful. I offer this opinion because you requested it, and I mean no offence.

You say that for you, Beyondbricks (BB) is useful to you. As the DTI manager in charge of the programme of which Beyondbricks is a part, I am pleased to hear this. You message below, and the "thread" referred to which resulted in your banishment from the community part of the site, makes me question again what you see that "use" to be? The accusation is that you were using BB as a platform to draw attention to your political views is left up in the air. I haven't heard (or seen) you specifically refute this. BB is not a political forum and trying to make it one is potentially damaging to its real purpose. (just as trying to make it a cookery class). Again, I do not care what your political views are, as long as they are not imposed on me, personally or distract from whatever purpose I am pursuing.

As for your Nottinghill Site, I have been told that since Feb it has been toned down. I found some of the links useful and did not find the ones others call objectionable. I did not spend hours looking however. To consider this issue further it would be helpful for you to respond to these two questions:

2. What usefulness did you enjoy while you were a BB registered user that you are finding it difficult to be without now?

Finally, please cut and paste all the emails which you used to send your first message to me so that I can personally send my apologies (in the subject line so that it can then quickly be deleted)., and assure me that you will not try to raise awareness (of what I am not sure) in this way again.

John Kroeger, Programme Manager
Internet Mentoring Initiative and Digital Content,
Computer Games Industry Sponsorship,
DTI Communications and Information Industry Directorate.
020 7215 1380 Dir.
020 7215 1370 Fax
151 Buckingham Palace Road
London SW1W 9SS
Have a look and register on the community section of www.beyondbricks.com, especially if you are an Internet Entrepreneur

-----Original Message-----
From: NottingHillNews.Com [mailto:nottinghillnews.com@ntlworld.com]
Sent: 24 April 2002 11:06
To: Kroeger John (Mr J)
Subject: Re: Our tel/con

Dear Mr Kroeger,
We live in ruthlessley Politically Correct times, with many people having a vested interest in maintaining that situation.
The great majority of people in a position like yours who come into contact with my political website for whatever reason, become afraid, and prefer to sweep it under the carpet, and me along with it.

( Witness my situation at beyond bricks )

As I have already said, if you view my political site you will understand why I seek safety in numbers, by this I mean generate maximum awareness of my situation, in order to minimise the ability of the PC brigade to have me swept under the carpet again.
Bear in mind that I do not know anything about you, and I have already said that I was very surprised to hear that you were unaware of the existance of my political website, the contents of which were the reason for my expulsion from Beyondbricks.
You also stated impatiently during our telephone conversation, that you did not have time to view / listen to great loads of information etc, and then made reference to "Objectionabe Content ????" on my website www.NottingHillNews.Com

I regret any inconvenience to other people at the DTi, but in comparrison to what certain other people have been getting away with doing to me for so many years, it is very small fry.

The awareness that I have generated around you will serve one of two functions.......
If you are an honourable man, it will assist you.
If you are not, it will expose you.

Did you get the FAX that I sent you ? In case it did not reach you, I have copied it below. I do not know if you can recieve HTML email, but in case you can, the HTML version of this fax follows this email.

Yours Sincerely

Sean Bryson



FAO Mr John Kroeger @ The Dti

From Sean Bryson

admin@nottinghillnews.com

www.NottingHillNews.Com

Beyond Bricks is the definitive portal for internet entrepreneurs that provides a free online resource of information and advice, news and 'community'. Funded by the UK Government's Department of Trade and Industry but created by a consortium of companies with proven success in the internet marketplace, our mandate is to encourage the growth and success of e-businesses across the UK.Beyond Bricks is part of the DTI's £5.5 million Internet Mentoring Initiative, which also includes match-funded grants to regional incubators and a research programme.

(Andrew Sell 020 7557 4620 )

Display Name: Dave Angel
Tag: daveangel
Last Login: 26/02/2002, 17:30:44

Intro: Realist. Technological Harry Potter. I speak my mind.
Location: (YO) York
Personal URL: http://www.ComingSoon.org.uk
Business URL: http://www.ButNotTellingYet.co.uk
Offering: Advice
Looking for: Other
Business Sector: Internet-lifestyle
Main Functional Role: Other
Company Size: 2-5
Other1: For the benefit of people interested in who I am, I have filled this out a bit.
Other2: I can give advice on usability, technical problems, aesthetics.
Other3: I am not tolerant of idiots using the internet badly. They were the prime cause of the dotcom bust. There are too many chancers with a good domain name and crap idea. Such sites are doomed to failure, and unfortunately take other good sites with them.
Other4: People seem to get offended by my constructive criticism. Sorry, but if I see your site and it is crap, I will tell you so. I've yet to see a worthwhile site from 2269 members. STOP PRESS. Seen one worthwhile site... endlesscards.com.

Subject: Remove Sean Bryson
From: Dave Angel (daveangel)
Sent: 26/02/2002, 15:45:31

Hi All,

Simple one, just read the thread

http://community.beyondbricks.com/show_boardmessage.asp?messageID=3316

Or better still, have a look at the site.

http://www.NottingHillNews.Com

Specifically the sections

Asylum and Immigration.
The War on Terror.
Just what IS Racism?
Crime and prevention.

Then vote here, to remove the racist. A simple YES or NO.

Cheers,

Dave.

p.s. I'll get the ball rolling...

Subject: Re: Remove Sean Bryson
From: Dave Angel (daveangel)
Sent: 26/02/2002, 15:45:44

YES

Subject: Re: Remove Sean Bryson

From: Karen Anderson (karenel)
Sent: 26/02/2002, 16:03:49

Yes

Display Name: Karen Anderson
Tag: karenel
Last Login: 26/02/2002, 16:01:49

Intro: Founder of Ebonylook.com, which is launching end of February. I would be intersted in liaising with publishers of magazines and anyone dealing in import and export.
Location: (UB) Uxbridge
Personal URL:
Business URL: http://www.ebonylook.com
Offering: Other
Looking for: Funding
Business Sector: Internet-ecommerce
Main Functional Role: Other
Company Size: 2-5
Company Stage: Startup, pre-revenue
Funding to date: Self-funded/Friends & Family
Business model: Clicks-and-mortar
Other2: Founder and Director

Subject: Re: Remove Sean Bryson
From: Craig Anderson (kraygerson)
Sent: 26/02/2002, 16:07:32

This was my first thought after discovering what the site was really all about and posting on the other thread. Since then I have looked into it further and his sources of information include (but are not limited to) the BNP's own web site.

So you have to ask yourself who/what Sean Bryson really is and what he hopes to achieve.

Regardless, I do not feel that he belongs here. This site is for Internet Entrepeneurs, not far right political activists.

So "YES" from me

Display Name: Craig Anderson
Tag: kraygerson
Last Login: 26/02/2002, 18:10:55

Intro: Having identified a possible niche in the market, my business partner and I last year broke away from full time employment to strike out on our own. Ace Developer Limited is the result, and we are hoping for a big year as we officially launch in 2002. Ace Developer provides web design, web application development and web hosting services at very competitive rates.
Location: (UB) Uxbridge
Personal URL:
Business URL: http://www.acedeveloper.com
Offering: Services
Looking for: Other
Business Sector: Internet-services
Main Functional Role: Developer
Company Size: 2-5
Company Stage: Revenue-generating
Funding to date: Revenue-financed
Business model: Online only
Other1: Wouldn't mind making some useful contacts. You can never have too many!
Other2: Although often very busy, I am happy to help and advise when called upon.

Subject: Re: Remove Sean Bryson
From: Ste Andreassen (godspants)
Sent: 26/02/2002, 16:22:42

Yes

Display Name: Ste Andreassen
Tag: godspants
Last Login: 26/02/2002, 16:22:03

Intro: Currently working on a very exciting venture, looking for funding - aren't we all. Plan to succeed where many other similar sites have failed, by actually having thought about the benefits the internet can bring, rather than jumping on the bandwagon with some half-arsed banner-driven site.
Location: (M) Manchester
Personal URL:
Business URL:
Looking for: Funding
Business Sector: Internet-lifestyle
Main Functional Role: Project Manager
Company Size: 1
Company Stage: Startup, pre-revenue
Funding to date: Self-funded/Friends & Family
Business model: Online only

Subject: Re: Remove Sean Bryson
From: Jeremy Jarvis (jjarvis)
Sent: 26/02/2002, 16:23:47

hmmmm. Not sure.

I certainly don't hold the same views/opinions as him - but I don't know whether he falls into the category of an activist?
Should we then need to inspect all other members to see whether their sites/views/business plans conform to the political position of BB?

I leave the decision to those who are in a position to make it.

Craig, this site is for Internet Entrepreneurs, not political activists of any persuasion.

Display Name: Jeremy Jarvis
Tag: jjarvis
Last Login: 26/02/2002, 14:43:34

Intro: I provide web and digital marketing advice and expertise to both start-ups and existing clicks or bricks businesses. Feel free to drop me an email through the BB system or visit http://www.reflex.net
Location: (LS) Leeds
Personal URL:
Business URL: http://www.reflex.net
Offering: Advice
Looking for: Other
Business Sector: Internet-new media
Main Functional Role: CEO
Company Size: 1
Company Stage: Profitable
Funding to date: Revenue-financed
Business model: Clicks-and-mortar

Subject: Re: Remove Sean Bryson
From: alex grady (alexgrady)
Sent: 26/02/2002, 16:57:17

Get rid of him... that muppet even had the gall to ask for my help, I politely refused before even getting past the homepage... if I'd known, I would have started this thread myself. Long live Dave Angel... the mans a hero

YES

Display Name: alex grady
Tag: alexgrady
Last Login: 26/02/2002, 14:18:57

Intro: Hi all, I'm a marketing monkey who knows nothing about the internet... but whos working on the development of a site nonetheless!! I am acutely aware that I may well be the least internet savvy person on this community, but I am learning all the time, so please don't tell me how stupid I am. The site I am working on is at http://www.allabusinessneeds.com if anyone wants a look, any comments or suggestions will be gratefully received.
Location: (B) Birmingham
Personal URL:
Business URL: http://www.allabusinessneeds.com
Offering: Services
Looking for: Customers
Business Sector: Internet-portal
Main Functional Role: Project Manager
Company Size: 2-5
Company Stage: Startup, pre-revenue
Funding to date: Self-funded/Friends & Family
Business model: Online only

Alex (devout Angel-ite) Grady

Subject: Re: Remove Sean Bryson
From: Sean Bryson (bryson)
Sent: 26/02/2002, 17:51:15

I do not make the news. Dont get offended by me, get offended by the criminals.

And just what is a racist anyway ?
Parhaps some of you should read further on my website.
There is much racketeering going on behind PC, and a lot of that is race racketeering, I suspect,rather like that which is being done to me just now.

How many people in this community ? And how many "Outraged PC merchants have called for my head ? I am certainly politically incorrect, and I dont appologise for that one bit. A racist would not give everyone the open oportunity of open UN-Moderated reply, never in a million years !!

None of you should have raised your objections on these pages, that is not what any of us are here for. EVERYTHING on my website is currently being OPENLY dealt with by our national media.

Who are ANY of YOU! to say that people like myself, are not allowed to debate these topics ????
You are the fascists (PC fascists) not people like me.

I will state again. Everyone who visits my site has the opportunity for the right of reply, this is extended to everyone, no holds barred.Except for the levels of manners and courtesy that have to be observed.

The internet is blind, that is one of it's great assets, I dont know anything about the people who may visit my site, their background, the etnic oigin, their religeon, etc,etc. But everyone gets the equal right of reply on my Yahoo groups.

If you do not wish to respond to my requests for assistance on these pages, that is your choice. It is disgusting what you are trying to do to me. We do not live in a PC Stalinist / Hitlerite regime yet.

"Racist" the all encompassing insult for anyone who is not PC ( Which is a big racket )

Sean Bryson

Subject: Re: Remove Sean Bryson
From: Andrew Sell (selly)
Sent: 26/02/2002, 17:01:23

Right.

This is not a thread or subject I'd like to see get anymore air time. The content on Mr Bryson's site is, quite naturally, offensive to most and I have received complaints online and by phone to tell me as much.

I would appreciate it if we didn't turn this into a circus.

As much as the comments of the respondednts so far are noble I would ask that all further objections are mailed to me at AndrewS@beyondbricks.com or message me privately on the site.

For the reasons stated in Mr Jarvis' post it is never a simple matter to terminate a user's membership because of the content of a member's site doesn't conform to our own sensibilities. However, if it does upset the community enough to warrant his eviction then action will be taken.

But, as I have said, I would prefer we give this topic/user no more space on the boards. Message me directly and the matter will be dealt with.

Kind regards

Andrew

Display Name: Andrew Sell
Tag: selly
Last Login: 26/02/2002, 16:24:16

Intro: Content and Community Manager for BeyondBricks.com
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Looking for: Advice
Business Sector: Internet-portal
Main Functional Role: Project Manager
Company Size: 6-15
Business model: Online only

Subject: Re: Remove Sean Bryson
From: Dave Angel (daveangel)
Sent: 26/02/2002, 18:21:42

Erm, right.

Anyone in any doubt, look what I found...

http://www.SeanBryson.Com

Makes very interesting reading, unless you're having your dinner, in which case I advise caution.

Dave.