Mary As Intercessor: A Fortiori Argument


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I DONT WISH TO ARGUE, BUT THERE IS MORE THAN ENOUGH EVIDENCE IN THE BIBLE THAT THE WOMAN OV REV 12 IS THE NATION OF ISRAEL. THIS IS NOT MARY, AND TE MANCHILD IS NOT JESUS BUT RATHER THERE A BODY OF BELIEVERS THAT OFCOURSE WOULD HAVE JESUS AS THE HEAD. AT NO TIME IN SCRIPTURE DID MARY EVER FLEE TO THE WILDERNES FOR 3 1/2 YEARS AS IS THE CASE IN REV 12. THIS IS A FUTURISTIC ACCOUNT OF ISRAEL UNDER ANTICHRIST NOT MARY. IT HAS BEEN STATED MANY TIMES BY THE CATHOLIC CHURCH THAT YOU MUST PRAY TO MARY. LETS NOT FORGET THE WITCH TRIALS WERE CARRIED OUT MOSTLY BY THE CATHOLIC CHURCH. THROUGHOUT HISTORY MANY POPES HAVE FALLEN INTO SCANDEL. AND THE POPE IS SAID TO BE INFOULABLE WICH IS ALSO HOGWASH. THE CATHOLIC CHURCH WAS STARTED BY CHANGING PAGAN SYMBOLS AND HOLYDAYS INTO CHRISTIAN SYMBOLS AND HOLYDAYS, SOMETHING I FEEL IS VERY WRONG. AND YOU KNOW THE DOCTRINE THAT MARY REMAINED A VIRGIN IS NOT IN THE BIBLE, AFTER JESUS WAS BORN THAT IS. AND NO MARY WAS NOT BORN SINLESS.

TONY

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Dear Tony,

You are a bright boy. I concede your point that the woman in Rev 12 has a collective significance. However as one exegete points out, "This interpretation does not necessarily exclude any and all relevance to Mary; it is entirely possible that John wrote from a twofold viewpoint, individual as well as collective, implying at one and the same time the People of God, the Church and Mary, the member of Israel who gave birth to the Messiah." (Jerome Biblical Commentary, Vol II, p. 482)

At any rate, can we return to the question of Mary as an Intercesssor? Let me restate the a fortiori argument with clearer examples:

If Jesus who is the "one mediator" (1 Tim 2:5) can allow us humans a role as intercessors, is it not possible, a fortiori, that he could do the same for the angels (Ps. 103:20-21;Ps. 148:1-2; Mt 18:10; Rev. 8:3-4) the saints (Rev. 5:8; Hb 12:1) included among whom is "Mary the Mother of Jesus" who met and prayed with the Apostles (Acts 1:14)? Notice the Bible says all generations will call her blessed (Lk 1:48).

About the other points you raise (Mary Ever Virgin, Immaculate Conception, infallibility of the pope, "pagan" customs) could I offer you some URLs which present a different perspective?

God bless,

Fr. Phil Bloom

The "Brethren" of the Lord

Mary, Mother of God (Bible & Early Church)

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