Adam & Eve

Daizeydaizey (29/03/04) :

You're right! But once they attain the knowledged then they are responsible. Adam and Eve attained the knowledge once they disobeyed God.

Nthiebaud2000 (29/03/04) :

once they ***disobeyed*** (emphasis : PAST)

Let's go back to your two year old...
He disobeyed you( for whaever reason)... then, when he reach the 'age of reason', you punish him for having disobeying you at a time when he did not know better???

Do you stop a second, once in while, to try to comprehend the implications of what you are saying?

Nthiebaud2000 (29/03/04) :

Damned yor thick! An Adult without knowledge of God and Bad is mentally a CHILD! So Adam and Eve might have looked as Adult, until they ate the fruit they were CHILD! an innocent and irresponsible than your 2 years old! The point is A & E got a bum rap.

daizeydaizey 29/03/04 :

Well we all certainly did! But at least we have redemption.

Me:

   The common Christian answer to solving what itself caused. If God didn't make it such that there was a Tree of Knowledge in the first place, then there wouldn't be any need for redemption.

   Same principle, different story:

   A business man wanted to make some money, so he went into the forest and asked the moose living there what they wanted to buy from him. They asked: "what'ya got?". The business man presented a wide range of things, everything from a toothbrush to a thighmaster. But every single thing the business man offered the moose declined. So the business man thought for a moment. After a while he asked them: "would you want to make some money? So that you one day will require something from me that you can buy it from me?" All the moose discussed it, and thinking that the business man was on to something. Why else would the business offer them employment, if not to someday make it possible to ensure their own needs?

   They agreed. The business man got them to clear an area of the forest and build a factory there. And they built a factory on the cleared area, as asked of the business man. The factory was completed. But all this time, the moose had not received any payment from their employer, so they went to him and asked for their money. The business man told them that they should work in the factory so he could sell goods, and use that profit to pay them. Thinking this was the only way to get paid their salary, the moose agreed.

   So the moose worked and worked in the factory. The factory made a lot of smoke out of the chimneys, poisoning the air. The moose went to see their employer, the business man: "All this smoke is making us cough all day and where is our payment!". So the business man went to the factory and took a crate with the produced goods and said: "Here are your gas masks as your payment!"


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