Socrates dialogues

with the editor of  

www.rebelliousspirit.com


 

 

We asked the editor of www.rebelliousspirit.com to publish an article, sent by us, in which we were exposing some 'unclear' situations that took place in the Osho Commune of Pune. .

We want to make our short correspondence public… For all to see.


Beloved Socrates,

Thank you for your message.

Do you want it to be published as an article in the RebelliousSpirit.com webzine? If yes, please send us something about you.

Who are you? :-) Where are you from? and also your picture. Whatever about you, for example - do you live in the ashram?- are you a sannyasin? how long etc.

It will be very helpfull for RebelliousSpirit.com readers.

The content of your letter is very strong judgement. We have no problem with publishing it, but 2 things have to be clear:

1. who is the author.

2. the author (you) is fully responsible for this.

If you agree send me your info about yourself + picture by email and we will publish your letter as an article.

Love

Nishkam


     We are a gathering of friends, mostly sannyasins of OSHO from 12 years up of sannyas who have all seen Him and are missing Him.  Several  sannyasins are now helping to gather info as witnesses of the events happening in the commune, which usually pass unnoticed by the most sleepy .  We are in expansion and we are fragile for now. I have seen what happens if someone comes out in the open to soon, they just crash the person by disallowing entrance in the ashram. Some of us is not strong enough to stand alone if the ashram roots are cut. Some got already heavy problems and they tried already to expel. One was actually expelled by Zareen but by some luck they forgot about and he could come in the ashram again . Since we are dealing with an organized mafia (and point by point we will prove enough of it on our site www.oocities.org/socrates_truth/ ) we need to be very careful. I can and will if you wish tell things to you we cannot even put straight on our site. Ashram is sending spies to the sannyasins of us in Pune sending us the material here. They are getting  harassed and some is getting really heavy treatment when they walk on the roads of Pune. They can easily get a car/rikscia accident and sent to hospital. It is heavy mafia, drugs is involved and much more than that. So for now thanks to the invitation to write on your site,  but nobody here want to be exposed before time. We can find someone who do not care to go to Pune and pass his name , than we let you know. For now remember all your site and email are heavily checked so I cannot write too much before time. I KNOW what is going on , I spoke with Sw. --------,  Sw ------- in 'secret' meetings and we know much more it can be written, since most sannyasins still believe even in Amrito doc and that Anando is Osho medium. Slowly as people get a little more awake we can come out. Ashram mail is opened not by the Indian govt. so much as by the Indian P of the ashram who have their partners in the GPO of Bombay and Pune.  When the group is big enough that we do not run the risk to be all BANNED also, we will let you know the list and NOT by email since they are all bugged.

Love Socrates,   

P.S. Do you want to join the secret group of us ?  


I am sorry Socrates team, but anonymous messages have no value for me. If you will be ready to open your faces and your truth you are welcome at rebelliousspirit.com . Otherwise I see all this stuff as a political game.

So enjoy your game. ;-)

Love.

Nishkam.


Beloved Niksham

     It seems you are supporting consciously or unconsciously the Perp there. Nobody here is interested in politics at all. One of us has been EXPELLED because he shared his OPINION with Zareen, about the ashram, and I tell you he just wanted to meditate . Zareen replied was ' do not give him the pass anymore'.

    Now my dear friend tell me , who is playing politics there?

    Can YOU take responsibility that none of us will be banned if we clearly share our viewpoint?.

    Can YOU take responsibility that our growth will not be destroyed like it has been done for A LOT of other sannyasins  who have been prevented to be nourished by the ashram energy field for stupid reasons , mostly disagreement with the Nazi leaders there ?

Love

Socrates Team


 

Hi Socrates Team,

I am sorry if I insult you, but what you wrote sounds very strange for me. This is my personal point, I am nobody in the story of Pune. I was only once there, unfortunately I've never seen Osho in the body.

But fortunately I am not personally involved in the Pune games. I know nobody from Inner Circle nor Management Team. What I know is my dynamic meditation and love to Osho. I can not imagine Osho hiding as

anonymous.

Nothing can prevent me from my meditation. I have no need to visit any center, any ashram and be involved in any sort of games around any organization. All nourishment can be found inside. This is my experience with meditation.

Expelled? So what?... What is the problem? Life is going on. Fuck expeller and be straight. What is the point of hiding if you were anyway expelled. If you want to share and bring the light, why not to do it in open way? Are you afraid? May be it is not so clear and something else is behind this. How can I trust you if you are hiding? If you do not want to share, then do not create this negativity, suspicious and rumours. It has nothing to do with meditation.

I am fully responsible for myself and my actions. That's enough for me.

Osho: 'Life is so short, there is no time for compromise'

Please do not take all my mind-talking too seriously. Let's laugh on

it.

We have Osho in our hearts, we have meditation and love.

Nishkam.


  I am glad to hear that your meditation is going good and that you already found the inner source of energy inside. Also glad you already do not need any ashram to support your growth and that a single visit to Pune was enough for you.

 Socrates team is made of sannyasins who have seen Him thousands of times in His Darshan and lectures. We all miss Him, we want to preserve His  energy field.

 I have loved the ashram so much in the past, I cannot allow  to see reduced like this   in front of all our eyes.  Many of us knew Osho 'mother,  some His father and some of us has spent time in Jabalpur , where the tree under which Osho enlightenment happened . We went to see the house in which he was born. Because we have been mostly in Koreagon Park (except Oregon time I mean) it is so hard to see the treatment that the Buddha Field created by Osho with enormous effort and intensity (1987-90) is getting intently DUMPED from the management team. What they did to the pagoda and podium is so Nazi style , what they did to Neelam and many other banned disciples of Osho, is so beyond their right that Socrates team has decided to start a new rebellious network which will openly come out when the fight is EQUAL , meaning we have equal rights to share our opinion without getting the same treatment Neelam got for trying to save the Samadhi for further dumping.

Love

Socrates Team  


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