-Jody-Angel- LMAOOOO

-Jody-Angel- ok

-Jody-Angel- sorry

Pacifist2222 sandy, you still did nt get IMed by the respectable ones?LOLLLL

xX_SIGH_Xx i was talkin to obie

_ctx_ not just any old pervert, im a qualified one

-Jody-Angel- lolol

Tubal1 OIC

sdrn92 hahahh pac

Obie-me Paci, you're not a pervo

Pacifist2222 nope,. except for my feet fetish, LOL

WVLADY-Light_ lol

awspos oh.. I see.. :-/

-Jody-Angel- he is

-Jody-Angel- arent ya paci

Obie-me oh yeah............that footsie thing

EternumPace>>>) A "deviant" is one who strays from "a path"

Obie-me LOLOL

-Jody-Angel- breast is a proper name

sdrn92 ya whats wrong with breast

_ctx_ ho2w about womens buttocks then?

sdrn92 thats if you have them

WVLADY-Light_ lol

xX_SIGH_Xx that was intresting

_ctx_ if breasts are out

EternumPace>>>) Eleurethera Soleil, sutra corso recorso me cassa sous cassa

WVLADY-Light_ I rather perfer buns

xX_SIGH_Xx probably the cleanest conversation about breasts i saw

EternumPace>>>) through this mortal coil we know the sun is come into his home

Pacifist2222 ctx, all women have a bun fetish, i caught few of them, LOLLLLLLLLLL

sdrn92 what??????????

preacherb4 hello anybody want to chat

_ctx_ hehe paci

Tubal1 I thought this was a christian chat?

_xVIx_ gee, the sun comes through my window....should i have a mortal koil too?

Pacifist2222 L"OL, i was once pinched, in an elecator,

_xVIx_ lol

Pacifist2222 oops, elevator,

WVLADY-Light_ lol Paci..lol

WVLADY-Light_ LOL

matey_145 hahahaha

WVLADY-Light_ did ya enjoy it Paci?

Tubal1 you should all get out of here and let the next bunch of christians in.

Tubal1 reckon they will do any better?

EternumPace>>>) the term "christian" being as debatable as it is for definition would seem to indicate that "christ" is not only the centre of history but of the imagination with which we're all endowed

Tubal1 what is a christian?

WVLADY-Light_ to confirm your location

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Tubal1 but What is a Christian?

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MustangDoc Christian=means little christs, named after the first believers

EternumPace>>>) 1) christian is a follower of Jesus the messiah 2) christian is a dreamer 3) one who is like christ or 4) sure, little christs

sdrn92 whats your difination wv

electricalsafety do all christians eat at mcdonnalds?

sdrn92 hahaha

WVLADY-Light_ and I gots to get energy from someplace hon

electricalsafety Xvlx yep,, mcdonnalds is evil,,,,

Tubal1 I believe in God, Creator of all and in his Son Jesus

MustangDoc McDonals is not evil, it just tastes that way

electricalsafety its got a clown in it who kills people

haveayak lol

EternumPace>>>) the terms "messiah" and "christ" have slightly different definitions, the former referring to an earthly royal lineage, the latter referring to a metaphysical field of energy/sentience

EternumPace>>>) in everyday parlance, christ could just as well be defined as alien being

electricalsafety sdrn the only reason mcdonnalds does that trafic thing is to stop people going to church

Tubal1 I mean like how can people that are dead, killed by ronald, make a big mac?

Tubal1 they are dead

_xVIx_ mczombies

sdrn92 hahah tubal

sdrn92 mczombies LOL

Tubal1 or are you saying ronald chops up people and puts them in his big macs?

EternumPace>>>) what interests in particular, is the essential anteriority of the messiah/christ dialectic, specifically transpositiional resonance through and beyond "time" or language

Tubal1 EternumPace>>>) english please?

EternumPace>>>) matter would seem to be speaking through us of its origin

Electricalsafety>> its

Electricalsafety>> www.oocities.org/electricalsafety/Jehad.html

EternumPace>>>) ok. i will try it again.

Electricalsafety>> some people spell safety wrong

Electricalsafety>> and others dont reallise it is case sensative and use capitals in the wrong place

EternumPace>>>) ok. its working now. must have been a glich

Electricalsafety>> what you think?

EternumPace>>>) I don't completely disagree with your opinions. However if their factual basis is true and there is oil where you say there is, I see a level playing field. I don't think a govn't that shoots its own

EternumPace>>>) people without a trial deserves much patience

Electricalsafety>> afghanistan is messed up,, but the mess up is more to do with 25 years of war then to do with who is ruling it

EternumPace>>>) fair enough. But I find it difficult to argue the merits or lack thereof of responding to Sept 11 with a military campaign.

Electricalsafety>> if they wanted to get the people responsible and if they were sure bin ladin was the man, why didnt they agree to him being tried in a nutral country

Electricalsafety>> such as switzerland etc

EternumPace>>>) that is obvious. he killed almost 10000 people who lived in the most powerful country in the world. thats politics. and thats life. he's either stupid or insane or both

EternumPace>>>) and yes, he has admitted to killing "innocents"

Electricalsafety>> no,

Electricalsafety>> that was fabricated

Electricalsafety>> he said he didnt do it and condembed the attack

EternumPace>>>) you are deluded, then electrical

Electricalsafety>> what is your evedence he had admited to the attack?

Electricalsafety>> you can go to the web page of the people fighting there,, these people are not scared of death,, if they would have done it they would admit it,, but they say they didnt

EternumPace>>>) i'm going to leave his trial to the american government. that is my privilege

EternumPace>>>) justice will be served

EternumPace>>>) just because someon is not scared of death, does not proove all your claims. do you see what i mean?

Electricalsafety>> the thing is they have brought new laws, so they wont be tried by your government,, they would be tried in secret militry tribunals like in communist countries,, the laws are here to stay,.your gover

Electricalsafety>> your government may use these laws on u next

EternumPace>>>) yes. those laws were created by the international community, party during the Nuremberg trials of Nazi war criminals because the burden of proof is quite uniqe from the "ordinary" criminal

Electricalsafety>> people like bin ladin have proved they are not scared of dying in the war with the russians, when the americans called them herros

Electricalsafety>> the only time when you say you cant do the trial by normal amounts of proff is when there is not enough..

EternumPace>>>) i undertand you, electrical, in the sense that in a war, everthing is very subjective. Bu you must understand that eventually one must choose a side.

Electricalsafety>> i know,, you read what i wrote on the top

EternumPace>>>) would you have me foreswear my land and fight for yours? would you do the same for me?

Electricalsafety>> my land is UK

Electricalsafety>> and i will glady fight against it

Electricalsafety>> and my school friends who have joined the army here

EternumPace>>>) well, i'm guessing you are not in the majority of Brits, then, electrical

EternumPace>>>) oh. you mean with the allies. ok

Electricalsafety>> here there have been anti war demonstartions that numbered in t

Electricalsafety>> here there have been anti war demonstartions that numbered in the 100 000 's

EternumPace>>>) i agree that american foreign politics is messed up, what little I know of it. But people everywhere get confused and they need assurance. America gives that.

Electricalsafety>> i have no loyalty to the evil government who rule this land,,, i dont have a problem with killing british soldiers in war

EternumPace>>>) well, that is your prerogative

EternumPace>>>) just as long as you don't kill anyone outside of war

EternumPace>>>) so you are Muslim, electrical?

Electricalsafety>> America and brition are capitalist countries, their forign polacy is based on making money,, so thats all they go to war for,, no morals or ideals,, just self benefit,, and 21s century benefit lies in

Electricalsafety>> cheep oil

Electricalsafety>> yep muslim

EternumPace>>>) that is an thought provoking point. I cannot dismiss it out of hand. yes. i think that "our" policies at home are quite moral, abroad they become more purely "capitalistic" at least with despots like

EternumPace>>>) afghanastan

EternumPace>>>) i won't pretend to know why. i do understand from you opinion, though, that america created its own enemy. such will occupy debate for quite some time i am sure

Electricalsafety>> countries like america and brten have no fixed frined or enemies,, they change with intrusts,, now taliban are enemy,, may be in a few years they will become friends,, when needs change

EternumPace>>>) for what its worth, the middle eastern territory looks very beautiful on tv. I pray ..peace will come to it in its time

EternumPace>>>) thats politics, electrical

EternumPace>>>) its always been like that, thank god or wars would never end

Electricalsafety>> dustom who they have allied with used to be a enemy,, he was a comunist genral well known for war crimes,,

Electricalsafety>> dustom who they have allied with used to be a enemy,, he was a comunist genral well known for war crimes,, now he is a american friend

EternumPace>>>) whay you may not understand, electrical, is that here in America we have a fairly fluid and open view of the human soul, that it has good and "bad" qualities that, if given the chance, tend tward

EternumPace>>>) fruitful

EternumPace>>>) we call that "humanism"

Electricalsafety>> you know who call them selves humanist here?

EternumPace>>>) and our films and entertainment are full of such a "faith" based perception of human activity and even politics

EternumPace>>>) who?

Electricalsafety>> here humanists are a party who want to legalis incest and euthanasia,,

Electricalsafety>> i have been to debates with them

EternumPace>>>) well, that is another matter entirely. not all "humanists" not even the majority would support incest I can tell you that for certain. are you referring to child porn?

Electricalsafety>> nope,, humanist here want to remove the last traces of christianity from british law, so only reson incest is illigal is cause christian law

Electricalsafety>> so they want totally free abortion, sexual freedom

Electricalsafety>> and all other freedoms

EternumPace>>>) that sounds interesting, let me think about that

EternumPace>>>) i was not aware

Electricalsafety>> i have been to debate with them

Electricalsafety>> most of them they bring a really old lady

Electricalsafety>> she gets angry in the debates

EternumPace>>>) i don't think I would count myself among them. I tend to favour christianity or traditional faith based law over

EternumPace>>>) i don't think I would count myself among them. I tend to favour christianity or traditional faith based law over humanist when there is too much discrepency. there needs to be a balance

EternumPace>>>) society is a work in progress

Electricalsafety>> any how,, i am not a soldier,, i dont think the problems in the world will be solved by war,, i am more politicals

Electricalsafety>> are the liberterians a humanist group?

Electricalsafety>> i have been to their site

EternumPace>>>) i must add, i don't agree americans should help kill people anywhere, and I regret it. Please understand that fear was whoever it was, it was there goal and they succeeeded well. we are acting on fear

Electricalsafety>> they seem like it

Electricalsafety>> have you heard of them?

EternumPace>>>) yes. when it comes to humanism, i would rather debate the theory and the art related aspects than get into questioning common law

EternumPace>>>) libertarians? yes. i'm not too well versed on it, though

Electricalsafety>> humanism here is basicly seculerism, they are very pro freedom

EternumPace>>>) oh. yes. that is true. thare are differenct "colors " of humanism. secular, christian and others

Electricalsafety>> what they mostly combate is traces of religius education that remains in schools

EternumPace>>>) i don't think that some of these humanists really allow themselves to envision how they would fill the void left if religion was removed from public institutions

EternumPace>>>) its good to have different forces in a society, though.

Electricalsafety>> they were asked it,, what they said was " dont harm any one" meaning that people can do what ever they want unless it harms others

Electricalsafety>> the question is

Electricalsafety>> who defines what is harm?

EternumPace>>>) good question.

EternumPace>>>) very good question

Electricalsafety>> thats when she got angry

Electricalsafety>> and lost her temper and started shoughting

EternumPace>>>) we humans are all a bunch of psychos

EternumPace>>>) lets face it

EternumPace>>>) its a wonder we haven't blown ourselves to kingdom come already lol

Electricalsafety>> you see that that photo,, it was taken at quanynah

Electricalsafety>> which is at the golan

Electricalsafety>> the syrian side

Electricalsafety>> it used to be a city, now its all flat

EternumPace>>>) you have to help me a bit more with the geography, whereabouts is Syria?

Electricalsafety>> ok, syria is to the north of israel

Electricalsafety>> the border has a mountian on it called the golan

EternumPace>>>) oh. ok.

EternumPace>>>) ok. thanks

EternumPace>>>) why is there so much war around there?

Electricalsafety>> the city of qoyanah used to be a mixed city full of christians and muslims, but now its flat

EternumPace>>>) do you think it is related to the land itself?

Electricalsafety>> there wasnt,, until 1950

EternumPace>>>) the end of the last world war

Electricalsafety>> nope, its related to british forign polacy

Electricalsafety>> it started in ww1

EternumPace>>>) please allow me to quote you some of a highly noted anthroplogist/religious scholar. bear with me. i would like

your opinion

Electricalsafety>> the otoman empire was a friend of germany, and germany a friend of austria, a serb killed the austrian emperer

Electricalsafety>> so ausria attacked serbia

Electricalsafety>> france was afriend of serbia so they attacked austria

Electricalsafety>> then germany attacked france

Electricalsafety>> then brtien attacked germany

EternumPace>>>) wow. this is interesting, electrical

EternumPace>>>) one big domino effect

Electricalsafety>> then the attoman empire joined in to defned germany

EternumPace>>>) what is Attoman empire exactly?

Electricalsafety>> what happened was the the islamic world had a lot of jews in the army and the polics

Electricalsafety>> ottoman =islam world

EternumPace>>>) oh. ok

Electricalsafety>> promissed the jews and the arabs palistine,, they told the arabs to fight the turks and told then that after the war the arabs will rule the islamic world

Electricalsafety>> after the war the jews started leaving their homes in europe and america to go to plistine with the slogan( a land with no people for peopl with no land)

EternumPace>>>) i follow you

Electricalsafety>> problem was the land already had people

EternumPace>>>) this clears up my head immensely

Electricalsafety>> the leader of the zionist movement was asked this, he said, "we can change that"

Electricalsafety>> and they did

Electricalsafety>> they exterminated a few christian and muslim towns

EternumPace>>>) what is "zionist"movement. is that a movement to build some kind of holy city, fortress?

Electricalsafety>> that scared millions of people in to leaving

Electricalsafety>> nope,, zionist means to have a land for people who beloong to a race, jews

EternumPace>>>) ok

Electricalsafety>> so after ww2 they broke their promess to the arabs and gave it to the jews

Electricalsafety>> but people who lived there did not like it,, and they will never like it,, thats what the wars are about

EternumPace>>>) i thought you said that the arabs and jews were orgiinally both promised the same land

Electricalsafety>> yep,, in ww1

Electricalsafety>> but you cant keep both promisses

Electricalsafety>> so they kept one and broke the other

EternumPace>>>) and Arabs are generally of what faith? all kinds?

Electricalsafety>> nope

Electricalsafety>> the two main religions are christianity and islam

EternumPace>>>) ah. ok.

Electricalsafety>> but you cant really tell just by looking at people, cause they behave and dress the same,, and have the same culture

EternumPace>>>) interesint. i am learning a lot from you

EternumPace>>>) it is such a different world from where i live

Electricalsafety>> the arabs who were kiked out of palistine were about 80% muslim and 20 %christian

EternumPace>>>) man. that is one tough problem

EternumPace>>>) you have enlightened me greatly

Electricalsafety>> it would get solved,, isreal is a racist state,, built for one race and one religion

EternumPace>>>) i am going to share this quote. keep informing me if you like, but i have to type this short paragraph out

Electricalsafety>> once isreal is ditroyed there will be peace

Electricalsafety>> i need to be going soon,, a friend of mine just phoned me,, i need to go one flloor

Electricalsafety>> i need to be going soon,, a friend of mine just phoned me,, i need to go one flloor down to helo him write some reports

EternumPace>>>) alright. but I wish you wouldn't hate israel so much

Electricalsafety>> ? isreal is a racist state,,, most jews hate it more then i do

EternumPace>>>) oh. alright. so you hate israel state, not all jews. i see

Electricalsafety>> not all jews are zionists

Electricalsafety>> and most of the zionist leaders dont even believe in god

EternumPace>>>) zionists are the ones who believe that land is theirs

EternumPace>>>) well. you have done yoru good deed for the day

Electricalsafety>> zionist are the ones who believe they have the right to remove people there and make that land theres,, most jews believe the land will be theres after the mssiah

EternumPace>>>) religious political fanatics in other words. i see.

Electricalsafety>> i got to go now,, got to write some reports

EternumPace>>>) ok. ty. take care.

Electricalsafety>> so what do you do?

EternumPace>>>) i am a writer

Electricalsafety>> stories?

Electricalsafety>> or news

EternumPace>>>) poet, fiction, journalism of sorts

Electricalsafety>> i am in to different kind of writing,,, enginnering science etc

Electricalsafety>> bye

EternumPace>>>) goodbye

EternumPace>>>) Joseph Cambell (p277) "The Masks of God: Occidental Mythology":

EternumPace>>>) ...Now it is simply a fact, singularly illustrated in the history of the Levant and particularly in J

EternumPace>>>) ...Now it is simply a fact, singularly illustrated in the history of the Levant and particularly in Judaism and Islam, that when religion is identified with community (or with a consensus), and this

EternumPace>>>) ...community, in turn, is not identified with an atual land-based socio-political organism, but with a transcendental principle embodied in the laws (what begin as fairytales) of a church or sect, its

EternumPace>>>) effects on the local secular body politic, within which it thrives but with which it does not identify itself, are inevitably and predictably destructive..." <endquote>

EternumPace>>>) ...

EternumPace>>>) this, to me, would seem to strongy indicate that the only truly secure nation is one which exists in the human imagination; it is metaphysical

EternumPace>>>) finis November 28, 2001 7:00 A.D. dreamtime, SaltSpring Isle

(the Irish referred to the Little People as angels dragged to some "middle world" by Lucifer, Fairies)