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Fabrizio J. Bonsignore Sep 29, 7:54 am show options
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Date: 29 Sep 2004 07:54:53 -0700
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Once upon a time there was a fish that was wrong: it had lungs...
To fly in formation doesn't mean to go in the right direction
One man's impossibility is another man's easiness. But we are all
equal.
"Oh, everybody knows he is nobody!" Heard passing in the streets
Escepticism is no good... What if its true, indeed?
Can you tell the thing from it's mirrored image? Not from afar, but
side by side...
Art is the sublime form of dung free form Freud
Pity we can't print our own money, it must come from somebody else's
hands...
Nothing more damaging than the ad baculum phallacy...
Remember Galileo, Bruno, Harvey, Copernicus, Kepler...
Reason takes time.
Knowing history condemns us to justify the same mistakes.
(But we all deserve a second chance, don't we?)
The limit to the infinite of Law is Justice. It is asyntotic, thus,
judges.
We'll have enough time to be serious, so let's have fun!
Truth is like Mass: Reality bends around it.
The meaning of Civilization is to diminish Uncertainty.
Nothing hurts more than not being believed.
And to think Aristotle didn't go to College! 8)
The essence of Civilization is to reduce Uncertainty.
Normality and abnormality are on the same dimension, but monstrosity
is
orthogonal.
Power is always guilty.
Hackers should get life without a computer.
People call you crazy what they cannot understand you.
Evil creates positive feedback; goodness creates negative feedback
(cibernetics).
Maturity can take things lightly.
Type I and II errors... Which is worse?
To learn in depth, nothing like self study.
Remember Lincoln!
Bizet... Mozart...
There are always options if you have the time to look for them.
What would happen to Thomas More in the XXI century?
To each one according to her/his possibilities.
They say we all have a twin, twin enough to deceive a camera... How
much would the casting cost? And the facial surgery?
Betrayal and revenge come from envy.
Reality is ambiguous. Nothing can be proven at all.
Before the Law we all must be absolutely different to allow Justice to
shine.
Want to kill somebody? Just publish an obituary... 8(as it goes for
bas jokes)
Eureka!
from ghamac.org
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Fabrizio J. Bonsignore Sep 30, 7:35 am show options
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Date: 30 Sep 2004 07:35:04 -0700
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Peoples have short memories and long resentments...
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Fabrizio J. Bonsignore Oct 2, 10:56 am show options
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Date: 2 Oct 2004 10:56:38 -0700
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P(IQ > q) = k for all C(g1,g2) where k -> 0 when q -> max(IQ t=infinite)
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Fabrizio J. Bonsignore Oct 2, 7:01 pm show options
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Date: 2 Oct 2004 19:01:43 -0700
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> P(n[IQ] > q) = k for all C(g1,g2) where k -> 0 when q -> max(IQ t=infinite)
Not for this thread but anyway, the probability of being more than one
big intelligence (genius) during a generation is zero. All instacnes
of multi genius generation can be explained sociologically by envy.
For instance, Voltaire writing the Encyclopedia, Bacon writing
Shakespeare, Mendelssohn giving away compositions/themes to his
friends, Hegel (Kant? Fichte?) giving away ideas to other
philosophers, Heisenberg (Bohr?) in the quantum mechanics generation,
etc.
We can envision each generation as a hyperplane in the space of human
possibility where there is almost always a high peak, followed by
other minor peaks and a continuum varying about an average, (for the
intelligence measure, whatever it is taken, for instance).
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Kadaitcha Man Oct 3, 12:10 am show options
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Date: 3 Oct 2004 00:10:30 -0700
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Subject: Busted
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fbonsign...@beethoven.com (Fabrizio J. Bonsignore) wrote in message ...
> P(IQ > q) = k for all C(g1,g2) where k -> 0 when q -> max(IQ t=infinite)
See
Phys. Rev. D 13, 1727–1732 (1976)
[Issue 6 – 15 March 1976 ]
"Translation invariance and localized states"
by M. Bolsterli,
Theoretical Division, Los Alamos Scientific Laboratory, University of
California, Los Alamos, New Mexico 87545
You're a fraud.
Stop crossposting.
HAND
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Fabrizio J. Bonsignore Oct 3, 8:49 am show options
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Date: 3 Oct 2004 08:49:41 -0700
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Sorry, can`t get hold of the reference. Can you please elaborate a little?
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> fbonsign...@beethoven.com (Fabrizio J. Bonsignore) wrote in message ...
> > P(IQ > q) = k for all C(g1,g2) where k -> 0 when q -> max(IQ t=infinite)
> See
> Phys. Rev. D 13, 1727?1732 (1976)
> [Issue 6 ? 15 March 1976 ]
> "Translation invariance and localized states"
> by M. Bolsterli,
> Theoretical Division, Los Alamos Scientific Laboratory, University of
> California, Los Alamos, New Mexico 87545
> You're a fraud.
> Stop crossposting.
> HAND
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Fabrizio J. Bonsignore Oct 4, 2:01 pm show options
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Date: 4 Oct 2004 14:01:41 -0700
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Peoples and Nations are defeated or won by the will of a single man or woman.
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Fabrizio J. Bonsignore Oct 8, 9:05 pm show options
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Date: 8 Oct 2004 21:05:39 -0700
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Bribes point to truth and death
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Fabrizio J. Bonsignore Oct 9, 12:02 pm show options
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Date: 9 Oct 2004 12:02:23 -0700
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Bribes point to truth and death
Because we can, we mustn't kill, but there will always be killers among us...
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Fabrizio J. Bonsignore Oct 9, 1:45 pm show options
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Date: 9 Oct 2004 13:45:45 -0700
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Bribes point to truth and death
Awe is the most human of reactions; animals run in fear right away.
What one culture bans, should be accepted when it is permitted in
other culture.
Cultures change as if they were living beings; sometimes they mix,
sometimes destroy each other, sometimes coexist.
One society cannot impose itself on an individual if that individual
leaves; it is an insult to the culture the individual choses to belong
to.
Freedom means the possibility to open up choices from where to choose.
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Warble606 Oct 9, 5:54 pm show options
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Date: 9 Oct 2004 17:54:11 -0700
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fbonsign...@beethoven.com (Fabrizio J. Bonsignore) wrote in message ...
> Peoples and Nations are defeated or won by the will of a single man or woman.
Not true. For instance during the Roman pre-imperial time
they had a Senate that made collective decisions quite effectively,
and which collectively believed that kings and emporers were
the wrong way to go. If they had not had that belief, the later
Roman Empire would never have come about.
I think the fascination with solo leaders really stems
from the fascinated-person's own narcissistic desire for power
which itself derives from personal feelings of helplessness.
A person who has to piggyback on the success of a strongman
or tyrant in order to feel important and powerful really
is not a person of character.
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Warble606 Oct 9, 5:56 pm show options
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Date: 9 Oct 2004 17:56:34 -0700
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fbonsign...@beethoven.com (Fabrizio J. Bonsignore) wrote in message ...
> Peoples have short memories and long resentments...
No, small-minded idiots and ignorant people have short memories
and long resentments.
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Warble606 Oct 9, 6:05 pm show options
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Date: 9 Oct 2004 18:05:40 -0700
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fbonsign...@beethoven.com (Fabrizio J. Bonsignore) wrote in message ...
> Bribes point to truth and death
Depends on your perspective. If a corporation is a parasite
which adapts to its host, then the bribes it gives to politicians
do not point to death: it points to further life for
the parasitic corporation, or so it believes. The truth is
usually different, just look at Enron.
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Warble606 Oct 9, 6:10 pm show options
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Date: 9 Oct 2004 18:10:39 -0700
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fbonsign...@beethoven.com (Fabrizio J. Bonsignore) wrote in message
> We'll have enough time to be serious, so let's have fun!
...
> Power is always guilty.
Power is not always guilty, and guilty power can and should
be held accountable and punished.
But you, you just wanna have fun, you won't even be accountable
for your own actions!
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Fabrizio J. Bonsignore Oct 10, 3:00 am show options
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Date: 10 Oct 2004 03:00:04 -0700
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warble...@yahoo.com (Warble606) wrote in message ...
> fbonsign...@beethoven.com (Fabrizio J. Bonsignore) wrote in message
> > We'll have enough time to be serious, so let's have fun!
> ...
> > Power is always guilty.
> Power is not always guilty, and guilty power can and should
> be held accountable and punished.
> But you, you just wanna have fun, you won't even be accountable
> for your own actions!
Power cannot be punished or it wouldn`t have power...
Whenever you confront people with power and individuals, the people
with power will be guilty, at least of using their power.
Fun? So you are one more of my stalkers who prefers to send me to jail
for the rest of my life than to let me reap the just rewards for my
inspiration? What you are failing to realize is that your comments
belie such venom that it turns obvious you are not a random poster
commenting but one of the people who actively harassed me this year.
Or am I wrong? I`ll have to repost this thread.
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Fabrizio J. Bonsignore Oct 10, 3:03 am show options
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Date: 10 Oct 2004 03:03:11 -0700
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You are bribed because the briber is wrong or doing wrong, so you know
where`s the truth. And nobody likes blackmail; if you are bribed the
bribing party may entertain thoughts of killing you, the more likely
the more money you receive or the sordid the reason you were bribed
is... (unless it is cultural everyday bribe).
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> fbonsign...@beethoven.com (Fabrizio J. Bonsignore) wrote in message ...
> > Bribes point to truth and death
> Depends on your perspective. If a corporation is a parasite
> which adapts to its host, then the bribes it gives to politicians
> do not point to death: it points to further life for
> the parasitic corporation, or so it believes. The truth is
> usually different, just look at Enron.
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Fabrizio J. Bonsignore Oct 10, 3:03 am show options
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Date: 10 Oct 2004 03:03:57 -0700
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Definitely one of the stalkers....
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Fabrizio J. Bonsignore Oct 10, 3:04 am show options
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Date: 10 Oct 2004 03:04:53 -0700
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Bribes point to truth and death
Awe is the most human of reactions; animals run in fear right away.
What one culture bans, should be accepted when it is permitted in
other culture.
Cultures change as if they were living beings; sometimes they mix,
sometimes destroy each other, sometimes coexist.
One society cannot impose itself on an individual if that individual
leaves; it is an insult to the culture the individual choses to belong
to.
Freedom means the possibility to open up choices from where to choose
.
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Sam Vaknin Oct 11, 8:24 am show options
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Hi,
You may find these of interest in the context of this thread:
http://malignantselflove.tripod.com/15.html
http://malignantselflove.tripod.com/faq11.html
http://malignantselflove.tripod.com/faq47.html
http://malignantselflove.tripod.com/14.html
Take care.
Sam
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Warble606 Oct 11, 4:32 pm show options
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fbonsign...@beethoven.com (Fabrizio J. Bonsignore) wrote in message
> Fun? So you are one more of my stalkers
You are mentally ill.
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Tiny Human Ferret Oct 11, 8:33 pm show options
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Warble606 wrote:
> fbonsign...@beethoven.com (Fabrizio J. Bonsignore) wrote in message
>>Fun? So you are one more of my stalkers
> You are mentally ill.
Just because he's paranoid, doesn't mean nobody's out to get him.
Paranoia has the characteristic of creating enemies.
--
The incapacity of a weak and distracted government may
often assume the appearance, and produce the effects,
of a treasonable correspondence with the public enemy.
--Gibbon, "Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire"
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Fabrizio J. Bonsignore Oct 12, 11:26 am show options
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Once upon a time there was a fish that was wrong: it had lungs...
To fly in formation doesn't mean to go in the right direction
One man's impossibility is another man's easiness. But we are all
equal.
"Oh, everybody knows he is nobody!" Heard passing in the streets
Escepticism is no good... What if its true, indeed?
Can you tell the thing from it's mirrored image? Not from afar, but
side by side...
Art is the sublime form of dung free form Freud
Pity we can't print our own money, it must come from somebody else's
hands...
Nothing more damaging than the ad baculum phallacy...
Remember Galileo, Bruno, Harvey, Copernicus, Kepler...
Reason takes time.
Knowing history condemns us to justify the same mistakes.
(But we all deserve a second chance, don't we?)
The limit to the infinite of Law is Justice. It is asyntotic, thus,
judges.
We'll have enough time to be serious, so let's have fun!
Truth is like Mass: Reality bends around it.
The meaning of Civilization is to diminish Uncertainty.
Nothing hurts more than not being believed.
And to think Aristotle didn't go to College! 8)
The essence of Civilization is to reduce Uncertainty.
Normality and abnormality are on the same dimension, but monstrosity
is orthogonal.
Power is always guilty.
Hackers should get life without a computer.
People call you crazy what they cannot understand you.
Evil creates positive feedback; goodness creates negative feedback
(cibernetics).
Maturity can take things lightly.
Type I and II errors... Which is worse?
To learn in depth, nothing like self study.
Remember Lincoln!
Bizet... Mozart...
There are always options if you have the time to look for them.
What would happen to Thomas More in the XXI century?
To each one according to her/his possibilities.
They say we all have a twin, twin enough to deceive a camera... How
much would the casting cost? And the facial surgery?
Betrayal and revenge come from envy.
Reality is ambiguous. Nothing can be proven at all.
Before the Law we all must be absolutely different to allow Justice to
shine.
Want to kill somebody? Just publish an obituary... 8(as it goes for
bad jokes)
[from ghamac.org]
Peoples have short memories and long resentments...
Peoples and Nations are defeated or won by the will of a single man or
woman
.
Awe is the most human of reactions; animals run in fear right away.
What one culture bans, should be accepted when it is permitted in
other culture.
Cultures change as if they were living beings; sometimes they mix,
sometimes destroy each other, sometimes coexist.
One society cannot impose itself on an individual if that individual
leaves; it is an insult to the culture the individual choses to belong
to.
Freedom means the possibility to open up choices from where to choose
.
Bribes point to truth and death
You are bribed because the briber is wrong or doing wrong, so you know
where`s the truth. And nobody likes blackmail; if you are bribed the
bribing party may entertain thoughts of killing you, the more likely
the more money you receive or the sordid the reason you were bribed
is... (unless it is cultural everyday bribe
).
Eureka!
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Fabrizio J. Bonsignore Oct 13, 7:16 pm show options
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Salaam in Spanish sound like sausage (salami) in English. So... lets
have dinner.
We are all being historic. But instead of saving letters now we save
emails.
I sent the refutation of the refutation of the refutation of Marxism,
but it was deleted by the moderator.
At least one world leader was sent to pay respects to his mother. And
guess what: they say she is the true ruler. Now the world leader looks
very introspective...
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Fabrizio J. Bonsignore Nov 6, 10:59 am show options
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Intelligence is not dangerous because it knows what it`s doing;
foolishness is dangerous because it doesn`t know what it`s doing.
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Fabrizio J. Bonsignore Nov 12, 7:41 pm show options
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Budhism is static, as plants are as a goal. To follow the path of the
mean in a chaotic universe requires deviations from the center to stay
on the mean path... dynamically.
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*A Mastermind with voices synchronized is a disgrace: not a Mastermind
at all.
*Budhism is static, as plants are as a goal. To follow the path of the
mean in a chaotic universe requires deviations from the center to stay
on the mean path... dynamically.
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*
A Mastermind with voices synchronized is a disgrace: not a Mastermind
at all
.
*Reality is coherent. Given some *Knowledge* you can deduct the rest.
The trick is to choose the righ Principles (like Chaos and Diversity).
*
Budhism is static, as plants are as a goal. To follow the path of the
mean in a chaotic universe requires deviations from the center to stay
on the mean path... dynamically
.
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Fabrizio J. Bonsignore Nov 19, 10:27 pm show options
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*A smoker may forget cigarettes, but never the light or the matches.
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Fabrizio J. Bonsignore Nov 23, 4:33 am show options
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*People exchange their humanity for some meals, alcohol and a whore.
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Fabrizio J. Bonsignore Nov 25, 7:21 am show options
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*A test administered without knowing it is test has a random
probability of being passed, since the context can admit carelessness.
*People exchange their humanity for some meals, alcohol and a whore.
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Fabrizio J. Bonsignore Nov 27, 5:49 am show options
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Date: 27 Nov 2004 05:49:55 -0800
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Subject: Re: Food for Thought
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*Reality is ambiguous, Reason disambiguates...
*
A test administered without knowing it is test has a random
probability of being passed, since the context can admit carelessness.
*People exchange their humanity for some meals, alcohol and a whore
.
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Fabrizio J. Bonsignore Nov 29, 4:12 pm show options
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Date: 29 Nov 2004 16:12:24 -0800
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Subject: Re: Food for Thought
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*Some want to say black, white, green, red, when the issue is Van Gogh or Picasso...
*
Reality is ambiguous, Reason disambiguates...
*A test administered without knowing it is test has a random
probability
of being passed, since the context can admit carelessness.
*People exchange their humanity for some meals, alcohol and a whore
.
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Fabrizio J. Bonsignore Dec 3, 5:40 am show options
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From: djbonsign...@beethoven.com (Fabrizio J. Bonsignore) - Find messages by this author
Date: 3 Dec 2004 05:40:05 -0800
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Subject: Re: Food for Thought
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*Truth hurts, but does good
*
Some want to say black, white, green, red, when the issue is Van Gogh or Picasso...
*Reality is ambiguous, Reason disambiguates...
*A test administered without knowing it is
test has a random
probability
of being passed, since the context can admit carelessness.
*People exchange their humanity for some meals, alcohol and a whore
.