Vog:  I personally don't believe in bashing anyone.

I view all the putter makers that I know and like as artists and craftsmen.  I appreciate what they can do with their minds and hands(albeit aided nowadays by cnc machines, etc).

It hurts me to hear anyone "bash" Scotty(b/c I've met him and his family and gotten to know him a bit in Japan).  I would like to respond vehemently to criticisms of him; but, I manage to "hold my tongue" altho it really irks me to have to do it.

I happen to have a few TP Mills putters and David made me a few "personal" putters last year that putt remarkably well and they look fabulous and I'll be forever grateful that he was kind enough to make me those putters.  However, they can't replace "my Scotty's" b/c the feel and confidence is better for me with Cameron putters.

I also have 2 Bettinardi "custom" putters; but, one is so beautiful that I won't take it to a golf course and the other is just a little light for me. I acquired those early last year.

Someone recently emailed me about purchasing a B. Morgan 007 and I looked at the site and decided against it.

I hate it that not everyone can get along and at least respect all the putter makers that i've mentioned.

There should be room even on this forum where we can discuss other putter makers. In fact, in my collection section, I've posted my other putters mentioned above.

I view all these putter makers as different "painters" back in the Renaissance days or the Impressionistic period.  Some people loved Monet...some people loved Van Gogh...some people loved Matisse......One thing we know now is these were all GREAT painters!!

We are living in an age of great putter makers and we should all embrace that reality without rancor.

JAT....sorry for the rambling...i read some threads on another forum that hurt and disturbed me.

This "stuff" is a HOBBY....it's NOT life and death....it's not worth the wasted energy that hatred expends.

"This "stuff" is a HOBBY....it's NOT life and death....it's not worth the wasted energy that hatred expends."


Pretty much sums it up right there!

Vog, I agree with what Greg says. I don't think people are comfortable mentioning other manufacturers in TCC. I don't know about bashing per se, but there just isn't much talk about the other guys. disparaging remarks will happen in this forum because its easy to hide behind a keyboard, and easier still when one is in a foul mood, or had a bad day. JAT

How would or could you police free thought, whether it be right or wrong to the whole or the few? Some of these guys are very passionate, and at the same time some are here because its a social setting where they share a common interest. I can only assume there are many members that don't even own a SC putter, yet they are here because its a great site. How would you be able to discern harmless banter from bashing?

Comparisons are hard to do in the case of SC V. other manufacturers. What would be the standard by which the comps were measured. Anser V. Newports? Would it be all aesthetics comps? That might make sense but should be limited to a few reviewers that you feel are qualified to do it. Full reviews with pics might help other collectors really see the differences between one putter and the next. Along those lines I would like to see an opinion free piece with good pics on what to look for in refinished or counterfeit putters? I think that would be very informative. Again, by someone you feel is qualified to do the piece.

I like anything that makes the ball go in the hole. I still like the old PING putters just about as much as any putter out there. I play with a friend that has an old copper LN Anser Beach that is so beautiful it makes me sick. Very worn in, but CLASSIC. I am a big believer that the original Ping Answer is still the putter that all other cavity back putters compare to. And, as a local boy, I have nothing but love for PING.

As you all saw in my posts on the gamer thread, I am not opposed to using other manufacturers putters. The Callaway Blue thats in the bag right now is referred to by my regular group as "the blue bomber" and for good reason. Its why I am looking for a Catalina to game. BTW, picked up a LE to try out. Wish me luck. You can all disagree, but the Rossie mallet is one of the best gamer putters ever made.

I agree Vog on the subject of SC vs. all others in regards to the collecting market. However, its hard to believe that the PINGS fell through the floor, and I'm sure a bunch of collectors didn't see that coming. SC markets his brand very well; couple that with the tour stats and his putters, he should stay on top for years to come.

AB

Thanks for reading my babble.

              I don’t see much if any, bashing of other manufactures on this site. TCC hasn’t deleted posts or banned anyone for talking about other manufactured.  This is a Cameron site so if people feel uncomfortable with talking about other makers, oh well……I my self would feel uncomfortable walking into a Chevy dealership wanting to talk about the new Ford line of cars….. Very little if any discussion about different putter makers goes with the territory; once again the site is called The Cameron Collector.
            It’s easy for people to slag this site and make references to Cameron fans as Kool-Aid drinkers blindly following Scotty. But you know what’s interesting …..Every manufacture out there would love to have World #1 using there putter and the market share that Scotty holds.
             As for me personally no other putter maker besides Scotty has reached out to me or even cares that I exist…………I’ve spent a fair amount on my collection and have received some very special putters from Scotty. The other manufactures seem to NOT be interested in my $$$.....In the past, without any strings attached, I’ve donated money to a memorial fund for one manufacture that passed away. After making my donation, surprisingly I was told that a special putter was going to be made for me, (this was not going to be a freebie, I would be paying for this putter.)   The putter was a no show. I inquired with another manufacture rep about purchasing a nice stamped up lefty putter and was blown off. Personally I feel that I’m so much more than just a lefty collector, when someone does for me, they get it back ten fold…….. So since I don’t seem to rate to them, they don’t rate to me. I don’t go out and bash the other manufactures; I treat them as if they are irrelevant …To put it in a nut shell…Fuckum…..Weather  there worth $10,000.00 or .10 cents,  I’ll just suffer on with my Cameron’s……Chris  

Interesting thoughts guys...

I'm reading some very different views from when I posed this question last year.

I'd always imagined moving non-Cameron discussions to a completely different website to keep this place "Pure to Cameron Discussion." (Scotty's words...not mine.)

...maybe someone should think of that idea.

like this?

"This is where people from all over the world come to discuss Scotty Cameron Putters and Scotty Cameron collecting. We started The Cameron Collector with the simple goal to help anyone wishing to get into the hobby of collecting Scotty Cameron putters. Our only purpose is to help educate collectors, and make friends."

This is where people from all over the world come to discuss Scotty Cameron Putters and Scotty Cameron collecting. We started The Cameron Collector with the simple goal to help anyone wishing to get into the hobby of collecting Scotty Cameron putters. Our only purpose is to help educate collectors, and make friends." 
 
 
I’m curious if the above statement was the intent or general idea of this website, why should the Cameron enthusiast be bashed for only wanting to talk Cameron’s?  If you were to design a car to only go 30mph in would seem stupid to bitch, complain or make fun the fact that the car only goes 30mph,,,its following its design scope….

Vogs first sentence;
                          Seems to me that if Cameron collectors get bashed, it's because of this perceived hatred and contempt we have of other putter makers.


The perception part get's me, were all supposedly blindly following Scotty and bashing all others makers.........It's the excuse used to justify other people's bashing of Scotty and Cameron Collectors..........Chris

I don't think there has been much bashing of any maker here with possibly exception to Slighter for obvious reasons, and even that has been pretty minimal. The moderators have ALWAYS kept a pretty tight leash on any sort of bashing of anyone or any maker.

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