3/23 - late 11/2003 and beyond...
THE TRUTH BEHIND IRAQ WARS AND MORE...
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BEFORE YOU READ THIS IT HAS BEEN WRITTEN WITH PEACE IN MIND,
I DID NOT CHECK (EXACTLY) FOR ALL THE MISTAKES OR GRAMMAR OR PUNCTUATION
BUT IT TELLS THE STORY WELL...
IT'S A SHAME U.S.A. ELECTED BUSH INTO THE WHITE HOUSE, IT'S A SLAP
IN THE FACE OF JUSTICE AND ESPECIALLY TO THE IRAQI PEOPLE
AND TO COMMON FOLKS AROUND THE WORLD. I DONT KNOW WHAT THOSE STUPID MORONS
WERE THINKIN OF WHEN THEY WERE VOTING FOR HIM... BUT THAT'S OK...
LET THEM COME WHAT THEY WANTED, LET THEM EXPERIENCE HELL AND ACTS
OF GOD FOR THEIR STUPIDITY...
IT'S AMAZING HOW MANY PEOPLE STILL THINK WAR IN IRAQ IS CONNECTED TO THE
WAR ON TERROR, SO MANY STUPID IGNORANT PEOPLE.
OK, LET IT BE, LET THE WHOLE DAMN(ED) COUNTRY GO TO THE DOGS...
AS IT RICHLY DESERVES. NOT BY WORDS, BUT BY YOUR ACTIONS YOU WILL BE JUDGED.
AMERICA, YOU WANTED HIM, YOU ELECTED HIM, HAVE HIM AND YOU
CAN HAVE HIM !!! BEAR THE FRUIT AND TAKE YOUR HARVEST.
THIS COUNTRY ALSO NEEDS A STRONG THIRD PARTY, IN ORDER
TO KEEP THOSE WARING PARTIES IN LINE AND IN CHECK, I BELIEVE
THIS COUNTRY WOULD BENEFIT FROM THIS PROPOSAL OF MINE...
THE FAILURE TO ELECT JOHN F. KERRY IN TERMS OF GLOBAL WAR ON TERROR
WAS A MISTAKE, BUSH IS A MAGNET FOR PEOPLE LIKE BIN LADIN, HE GETS SQUADS
AND SQUADS OF SUICIDE WARRIORS, READY TO DIE FOR A HOLY WAR.
THE ONLY GOOD THING ABOUT BUSH IS THAT MAY BE HE WILL ELECT SOME GOOD JUDGES,
BUT THERE ARE VERY FEW GOOD JUSGES LEFT IN USA !!!
GEORGE BUSH AND HIS PIGS EXPLOITED A TINY SLICE OF THE TRUTH
(LIKE THE FUHRER DID) TO CORRUPT THE WHOLE TRUTH.
e.g. Instead of George Bush's bill, Senator Kerry sponsored a bill that would
have required money instead of debt for the 87$ billion Iraq supplement bill,
a bill to fund tropps, body armor, higher combat pay and better health care
for their families. The bill that Kerry advocated sought to reduce the tax cut
for the wealthy to pay for troops in Iraq, the Bush bill simply tacked the
87$ billion unto spiraling/growing federal debt.
THE INTERESTING THING ABOUT 'CATASTROPHIC SUCCESS' IN IRAQ IS THE FACT
THAT WHEN THERE IS TROUBLE TO COME BUSH KNOWS ABOUT IT AND SIMPLY CLAIMS
HOW THE TERRORISTS WANT TO DESTROY FREEDOM AND DEMOCRACY, WHAT A LAME
DEFENSE... HE IS JUST SECURING HIMSELF ON BOTH FRONTS, WHAT IF AND WHAT IF...
SO IF IT HAPPENS OR NOT HE CAN ALWAYS CLAIM:" SEE I TOLD YA SO !!! " SHAME!
AND MORE SHAME ON ALL YOU FOOLS WHO LISTEN AND BELIEVE HIM !!!
Speaking of money... where is the money for the reconstruction of Iraq ?
Over 200 billion $ wasted and so far only 330 million of those money
has been given to the Iraqi people and the reconstruction.
Companies like Dick Cheney's Haliburton are irresponsible thiefs.
They are the ones who are profiting on human miseries and americans can
not see clear facts under their eyes and noses.
Bush started this war, let him finish it, they say... You can not change
Presidents during the time of war ? Shut up ! Who started the war in the
first place ? Now President Bush is saying the terrorist want to destroy
peace and good lifes for the average Iraqis ? What good lifes ?
The economy does not exist, secuirty is dead, fighting goes on and it will
go on. The average Iraqis hate Bush, 'Coalition forces' and americans,
an overwhelming majority of them. Innocent civilians die from hands of americans,
'Iraqi secuirty forces' and suicide bombers. All direct and indirect
results of this terrible war.
The Bush cronies may say they did not know, but that is not so...
Even if they did not know something, still they were very ignorant
AND IGNORANCE IS THE SOURCE OF MOST OF EVIL AND TRAGEDIES, IGNORANCE
IS THE PLAYGROUND OF THE FOOLS !!!
More on this: ECONOMY KILLING IRAQ, THANX TO THE INVASION:
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/oneworld/20041109/wl_oneworld/6573975361100012947
Some really good sites:
All on Inraq, one great site: www.geocities.com/theworldcourt/Iraqsite.txt Bookmark it !!!
Saddam not Part of WMD:
www.cnn.netscape.cnn.com/ns/news/story.jsp?flok=FF-APO-1107&idq=/ff/story/0001%2F20041006%2F1242189060.htm&sc=1107&photoid=20041006WHCD101
www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/asiapcf/11/01/iraq.china/index.html China slams bush
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IT IS ILLEGAL TO START A PRE-EMPTIVE WAR BY A US PRESIDEBNT
WITHOUT CONGRESS DECLARING THE WAR - WAR POWERS RESOLUTION WPR 0F 1973
ILLEGAL WAR IN IRAQ !!! THE TOTAL INTRINSIC TRUTH !!! By: J.L.
A prelude, explanation, foreword to my important stories...
THERE ARE ALWAYS TWO SIDES TWO EVERY STORIES AND MANY MORONS
WILL TRY TO DISPUTE WHAT I WROTE HERE... THERE IS ALWAYS
SOME KIND OF AN EXCUSE AND "PUT THE BLAME ON SOMEBODY"
AND AS USUAL WE HAVE IT HERE BIG TIME... BUT I AM CORRECT AND I
STICK TO MY STORY AND WAS CORRECT AT THE BEGINNING OF THE WAR
AND I AM STILL CORRECT AND ALL WHO ARE AGAINST ME...
YOU ARE OF ALL WRONG... BIG TIME !!!
This is not Anti american propaganda... but the faults must be shown...
The buttom line is... What's next ?
There is so much people dont know yet... The buttom line is... what's next ?
How do we fix relations with the Arab world ? No matter what america
says it will not convince those people this was "Liberation War."
Nowhere in the world wherever you go, not even here, no government is
perfect. I mean look at the history of the world.
U.S.A. lost its credibility in the eyes of the world, completely and it
will take few generations to correct it and they will have to pay
for the sins of their irresponsible fathers...
If the 'coalition' forces dont find any WMS,
(main reason for war was Bush's stupid, selfish ambition and for
oil at least to get some oil - but I CAN'T say oil is the main reason
BUT IT IS ONE OF THE MAIN REASONS, so was the first Gulf war)
you just wait and see what Bush will say when nothing is found...
And that oil USA will not see, not much, all will go up in flames anyways.
" Well, at least we freed the Iraqi people" Gimme a break...
Are you aware that country is not even a third world class country now?
They say it's worth it in the years to come, may be so, 10% is good out
of 90% that is ba (what a utilitarian way of thinking) and keep in mind
all the soldiers killed on the Iraqi side, keep in mind they dont have
such a great military power this country has. As of today over 150
'coalition' forces are dead. That's also not good, every death is not
good and how would you feel if you had bombs flying over your head flying
just because some idiot president wants to 'free' you ? Hell no,
I'd rather starve under my own system instead of getting this crap in return.
This war will also bring long and big unemployment numbers.
Did they ever think about that ?
Hey, Did you see that statue of Saddam falling down ?
You call that a big deal ? What ?There were only 30 people there and
if you put a camera angle from far away you will not see throng of people,
empty all around! (plus the idiot reporters smuggling and jumping
like all around the place like Mexican jumping beans)
--- Check these points similar to mine;
well written, explained, backed and stated by Reverend Jackson:
( You may not like or agree with the guy a lot... but he has some
good points here, never was he more right !!! )
IF YOU FOLLOWED THE HELL OF IRAQ FROM MARCH 20th UNTIL TODAY, THE REAL TRUE
STORIES YOU WOULD KNOW ABOUT THE TORTURES OF NAKED IRAQI PRISONERS
(FACT... PENTAGON ALLOWS DISROBING
PRISONERS FOR interrogation, NOT ONLY IN IRAQ... NOT TO MENTION OVEREXPOSURE TO HEAT,
LIGHTING, COLD, DARKNESS... THAT IS A WAR CRIME, WHERE'S THE AMERICAN JUSTICE ?)
Rev. Jackson Brands Bush's Foreign Policy Neither Humble Nor Consistent:
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-(CHICAGO, IL) Reverend Jesse L. Jacksonn,, Sr.,
founder and President of the Rainbow/PUSH Coalition,
issued the following statement regarding the saggy
Bush Administrations foreign policy:
When he campaigned for President, George W. Bush promised us a humble
foreign policy, and criticized the Clinton/Gore years for their lack of
consistency.
But there is nothing humble about claiming the right to go to war
unilaterally, circumventing the United Nations, splitting NATO
between new and old Europe, and ignoring the treaties and rules of
international law that George W. Bush overrode with his pre-emptive
strike on Iraq. There is nothing humble about adopting a brand new policy of
preventive war, giving usand in the near future, everyone
elsethe right to make war on any nation we choose, on the basis
of a threat that no other nation can see, indeed, on the explicit
basis of a threat that may not exist for years to come.
There is nothing humble about adopting this policy in the
face of the explicit opposition of much of this nation and
most of the world. And there is certainly no consistency in
this foreign policy. We attack Iraq for a future threat it might
develop, and talk with North Korea because it has weapons that can
threaten us right now. We invade Iraq supposedly because it has
defied U.N. resolutions, but President Bush calls Sharon a "man
of peace". The Reagan/Bush Administration sold Iraq weapons of mass
destruction in the 1980s, and now bombs Baghdad because Iraq has WMD.
(As comedian Mark Russell said: We know Iraq has WMD; we still have
the receipts!) Donald Rumsfeld goes to Baghdad in 1983 to assure
the Iraqis of our support and friendship, and then leads the invasion
forces twenty years later. The United States leads the world in arms
sales, yet criticizes other nations for selling technology to Iraq.
A Halliburton subsidiary circumvents the boycott to sell equipment
to Iraq during the 1990s, and now we discover that Halliburton has
won a huge no-bid contract to rebuild Iraq after the war.
There are some other obvious contradictions.
Our aggression against Iraq violates our treaties, the rule of
international law, and United Nations agreementsyet when Iraq
seizes U.S. prisoners, the first thing the Bush Administration
does is invoke the Geneva Convention. The Iraqis should follow
the rules of the Geneva Convention; but so should we.
We rightfully demand fair treatment for our POWs in Iraq,
but even our military establishment was concerned about the poor
precedents our nation was setting in its treatment of prisoners
held at Guantanamo.
During the run-up to the war, the Bush Administration made it clear that
it was one way or the highway when dealing with the U.N. and NATO.
Now that planning for the aftermath of this war has finally begun,
however, it seems that the U.N. might be needed to help reconstruct
and govern post-war Iraq, while our NATO partners may be asked to
chip in to help pay for a war they opposed.
United States will give over 20 billion for reconstruction but I doubt
even 10% of that will go to the Iraqi people. And I doubt their oil
will go into their hands, most of it will most likely go to Dick Cheney's
oil companies and those he selected to overlook the oil production.
We are a nation of SUV drivers, invading another nation with
massive oil reserves, yet publicly maintaining this war has
nothing to do with oil. (Good thing the official name of the
invasion is not Operation Iraqi Liberationacronym OIL)
As Steve Kretzmann of the Institute for Policy Studies put it,
if McDonalds, the largest user of potatoes in the world,
were invading Idaho, wouldnt we suspect control of potatoes
had at least a little bit to do with it? In any case,
the rest of the world believes it does, and that counts for a lot.
This is being advertised as a war for democracy.
Coming from an Administration which refused to count every
vote in Florida, refuses to release documents that belong to
the public, and refused to ask Congress for a declaration of war,
this claim is automatically suspect. It is even more inconsistent,
however, when we go to war without even a notion of the costs.
The Administration had estimates even before the suspect $74.7B
figure just released, but the Republicans on Capitol Hill were
already busy ramming through a budget without any information on
those costs, without any appropriations for the war,
and with a huge tax cut that will make it harder to maintain the
public welfare here at home while war and occupation continue.
There is nothing democratic about withholding facts
and information from the public, and from the Congress.
The Administration has articulated the idea that George W. Bush
has all the power he needs to go to war, whether or not the Congress acts,
whether or not the U.N. acts, whether or not our allies agree.
Many believe this is un-Constitutional in nature, since Congress
is supposed to declare war, not the President alone.
And it is at a minimum anti-Constitutional in spirit,
since Madison and the Founding Fathers deliberately set up our
structures in the first place so that there could never be another
King George, so that one man alone could not push the nation to war.
This new doctrine of preventive war overturns the warnings of
Washington and Madison and Jefferson that our nation has prospered by,
supercedes the doctrine of containment that helped us win the Cold War,
and makes us a nation that launches first-strike wars rather
than defensive ones. Worse, this new doctrine was never discussed
in a serious way in public, never mentioned during Bushs campaign
for President, and never voted on by the public. There is no mandate
for preventive war. The consent of the governed has never even
been asked, much less given.
Most Americans believe, rightly, that assassination is terrorism.
But the Administration has quietly re-established the right to assassinate
designated enemies overseas, with no public discussion or serious press
coverage of this policy change.
(Speaking of the press, the Bush administration claims the Iraqi people
now have the right to protest, right of speech and publication... well if
that is so, how come the Iraqi army is totally disbanded, is it because
it is Saddam's ? How come the Baath party can not even exist or nobody
can talk about it, not to even imagine print something favorable of them
or by them ? If that is freedom of speech and expression, I wonder what
do they mean they have freedom, it's totally worse than before.
The President was quoted as being grateful that weapons of mass
destruction have not yet been used by the Iraqis.
We are all grateful for that; we want our soldiers to return in
good health, and soon. But we wonder about the cruise missiles
now striking Baghdadare they not also weapons of mass destruction ?
The people of the world asked us not to use them, and we ignored
their pleas for peace. Where is democracy in that ?
There is one final piece of hubris.
The President cites God in every speech,
and reportedly believes that God has tapped him to lead the fight
against evil-doers. But the decision which of us is good
and which of us is evil is not the Presidents, it is Gods.
And the people we are bombing are God's children, too.
Speaking of children, the psychological damage they suffered and are
suffering becuase of this illegal war will scarve them for the rest
of their lifes, they will not be able to concentrate and live proper, prosperous
normal lifes. Many will go the wrong way and revange will be on their minds.
They say that truth is the first casualty in war.
And with an embedded press corps seemingly giddy over covering this war,
it is hard to argue with that statement.
We would add that humility and consistency also seem to be early casualties.
3/24/2003 3/31/03
THE UNJUSTIEFED & ILLEGAL WAR
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- HERE YOU WILL FIND FACTS AND INFORMATION THE PENTAGON & THE CRUEL BUSH
ADMINISTRATION DOES NOT WANT YOU TO KNOW, HEAR, BELIEVE OR READ.
WHEN THE WAR IS ALL OVER AND LONG FORGOTTEN... THIS WILL REMIND YOU
WHAT YOU ONCE KNEW OR DID NOT KNOW. ( MOST LIKELY )
THIS CASE SHOULD BE FIRST PRESENTED TO THE SUPREME COURT & TO THE NINE JUDGES.
THOSE JUDGES SHOULD MAKE A RULING AND TAKE PRESIDENT'S POWER AWAY.
THIS WAR IS ILLEGAL IN MANY WAYS... BUT BASICALLY FROM THE LEGAL POINT OF
VIEW IT HAS NOT OFFICIALLY BEEN DECLARED A WAR BY THE CONGRESS. AND IT
LEGALLY SHOULD BE. THIS CASE SHOULD BE TAKEN BY THE SUPREME COURT ASAP
ON SPECIAL GROUNDS. BUSH, RUMSFELD & THE GANG MUST BE PUNISHED FOR THEIR
ACTIONS... THE SOONER, THE BETTER.
IF THAT FAILS IT WILL BE MUCH HARDER THRU THE HOUSE OF SENATE AND CONGRESS.
THEY ARE FILLED WITH BUNCH OF REPUBLICANS WHO SUPPORT BUSH (BIG MISTAKE),
HOWEVER... BUSH AND HIS STAFF MAY HAVE SOME COLLEGE EDUCATION BUT AS MANY
PEOPLE SAY: THEY ARE STUPID AS STUPID IS. THERE WERE MANY PEACEFUL WAYS THE
BUSH ADMINISTRATION DID NOT TRY.
( It's too late now... but this is what I wrote on 3/24... )
The Senate is the jury... There is a law that allows to present the case in
front of the Senate and the White House to challenge anything and especially
this current situation. From many possible candidtates
Choose somebody in politics to state my case (below) in Washington.
I think he can do a good job and has moral and ethical values
and I think he knows how to present his point across.
People sea and hear but everything what gets in in one ear, gets away from
the other ear. Everything you need to know is here. However... there
is much more to write about the injustice and war crimes of this
terrible ordeal. It's a shame to keep silent, now in hard times it's
true test to speak against injustice. I have a feeling we are living in U.S.
in the pre-historic ages under the leadership of a cruel sadistical dictator.
Bush also wants to display U.S. military powers and test their weapons on
the weaker army and on a smaller nation.
Bush is using "nice methods and nice words" to Iraqi's and the world to
justify his actions... for more "justifiable actions" read more...
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THE GULF WAR II FACTS, TRUTH AND SOLUTION PROCLAMATION By: L.J.
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- This war was not the last option, many options were totally unexplored,
unopened, untouched. Bush's totalitarian views to rebuild Iraq and
his claim that 'little' suffering of the Iraqi people will bring
forth lots of harvest in the years to come is worth the wait and all the
suffering and tragedy. Give me a break...
STOP THE WAR ASAP !!! THE FACTS AND THE TRUTH !!!
GEOREGE BUSH IS THE BIG TIME EXECUTIONER SINCE HIS GOVERNATORIAL DAYS.
HE HAS GIVEN ORDERS TO EXECUTE THOUSANDS
OF PEOPLE WHO DONT HAVE ANY MAJOR CONNECTION TO THE
IRAQI REGIME, SHOOT ON SIGHT.
THIS DOCUMENT IS TO BE READ
IN U.S. CONGRESS AND IN THE HOUSE OF REP ASAP !!!
BUT MAINLY THIS PROCLAMATION IS FOR ALL THE GENERATIONS TO COME.
The 2003 war on Iraq is illegal, unetchical, immoral, etc...
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" IRAQI FREEDOM ? " THE LONGER U.S. IS IN IT, THE LONGER IRAQ WILL SUFFER.
THINGS THE HARD LINERS FROM THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION
DO NOT WANT YOU TO HEAR...
AMERICA WAS SUPPOSED TO BE A MODEL OF DEMOCRACY TO THE WORLD, WHAT
IT TURNED OUT TO BE IS A MODEL OF CONQUEST COMBINES WITH THE MODEL
OF DESTRUCION OVER NOT SO POWERFUL. THE WONDER, SHOCK AND AWE OF IT ALL.
IRAQI FREEDOM ? THIS IS IRRITATING EVERYBODY AND IT'S MAKING LIFES HARSHER.
WHAT ? HOW DARE THEY CAME UP WITH THIS IDIOTIC MISLEADING NAME ?
IRAQI SACRIFICE, THAT'S THE CORRECT NAME FOR IT !!! SUCH A 'FREEDOM' WITH
SUCH HIGH CASUALTIES IS COMPLETELY UNACCEPTABLE AND EVEN HARD TO BELIEVE !!!
NO WAR EVER BROUGHT ANY GOOD SOLUTIONS. THIS WAR WAS NOT THE LAST OPTION.
BUSH WAS PUSHING TOWARDS IT FOR A LONG TIME NO MATTER WHAT WITH HIS LIES
AND STUPID PROPAGANDA. BUSH WAS ASKED FEW DAYS BEFORE THE WAR IF HE
SUPPORTS AND PRAYS FOR PEACE... HE SAID 'HE DOES AND HE PRAYS FOR GUIDANCE
AND FOR PEACEFUL SOLUTION...'
HE WAS BLASPHEMING AND HE WANTED IT ALL HIS WAY. THE WRONG WAY.
WHEN HE FOUND OUT IRAQI'S ARE GETTING NIGHT VISION GOGGLES FROM THE
RUSSIANS HE CALLED THAT UNFAIR AND CALLED RUSSIAN PRESIDENT TO
EXPRESS HIS DISAPPOINTMENT, WHAT A LITTLE SPOILED DIRTY KID.
(Feel free to correct any spelling mistakes or do proofreading... I wrote this
without taking time to correct some spelling or grammar, no time...
You can correct but dont change anything, It does not matter
who I am... what it matters is below... If you want to you will know
who I am later when the time is right, may be)
Why 3 out of 4 Americans support this illegal and unethical war ?
Or do they support the troops but not the war ? Let's get it straight.
- IN ORDER A WAR IS PROCLAIMED AGAINST OOTTHER COUNTRY... CONGRESS MUST RATIFY IT.
THIS HAS NOT BEEN DONE YET !!! INSTEAD OF RARIFYING IT THEY SHOULD STOP IT.
LET'S FACE IT... BOTH LEADERS, BUSH AND SADDAM THINK THEY ARE DOING
WHAT'S RIGHT, BOTH OF THEM THINK THEY ARE ON A MISSION FOR JUSTICE FROM GOD...
THEY DONT REALIZE THEY ARE BOTH WERONG. BUT BUSH IS MORE WRONG.
BUSH IS SAYING GOD GAVE HIM A MISSION TO ACCOMPLISH... WHAT MISSION ?
USING THE NAME OF GOD LIKE THAT IN VAIN AND IN ORDER TO JUSTIFY SOMETHING
IS COMPLETELY UNACCEPTABLE. I AM SPEECHLESS !!!
BUSH AND HIS CABINET ARE DOING THIS NOT JUST TO "LIBERATE" IRAQ AND FIND
"THE WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION" ( Iraq, I repeat has no means of making
them on any major scale and farther more... has no means of firing them,
they only have few working war planes, if any )
THEY ARE DOING THIS BECAUSE OF THE ECONOMICAL
REASON... THEY ARE HOPING THE ECONOMY WILL SURGE AFTER THE WAR, AS BUSINESSES
STARTS INVESTING AND CONSUMERS START SPENDING. SUCH BLOOD MONEY DOES NOT BRING
ANYTHING GOOD IN THE SHORT OR A LONG RUN. IT'S NOT EARNED AS WELL.
WE ELECTED A BELLIGERENT RETARD FOR A U.S. PRESIDENT. THE WHOLE WORLD
AGREES. AND THOSE WHO SUPPORT HIM ARE NO BETTER... OR THEY DONT SEE THE LIGHT.
MANY PEOPLE DONT KNOW THAT CONGRESS IS LIKE A BIG JURY LIKE A BIG JUDGE... THEY
HAVE POWER, REAL POWER, MORE THAN PRESIDENT... THESE ARE THE TIMES THEY NEED TO
HEAR US... MAKE SURE YOU FIND SOMEBODY WHO WILL IMMEDIATELY TRAVEL WITH THIS
LETTER ( AND SIMILAR IDEAS, SUGGESTIONS TO STOP THE WAR ASAP ) TO THE WHITE
HOUSE AND DEMAND CITIZEN'S HEARING... ALL THE SENATORS AND REPRESENTATIVES TO BE
PRESENT. IMMEDIATELY AFTER THE PRESENTATION... THEY WILL TALK ABOUT IT,
EVERYTHING MUST HAPPEN THE SAME DAY... THE LETTER AND THE SENATE'S ORDER AND
RESOLUTION TO THE PRESIDENT TO STOP THE WAR IMMEDIATELY !!! UNDER THE U.S.
CONSTITUTION WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO BE HEARD... THIS PROTESTS ON THE STREETS
(HERE AND WORLDWIDE) ARE OK BUT THEY ARE NOT REALLY DOING MUCH, THIS MAY BE
THE ONLY WAY OUT... CHOOSE SOMEBODY WHO WILL DELIVER THIS SPEECH IN FRONT OF
THE CONGRESS !!! WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO CHALLENGE SOMETHING THAT'S WRONG AND
ESPECIALLY DURING THE WAR TIME. IT'S FOR OUR OWN GOOD. I ONLY HOPE THIS
IS NOT THE START OF THE WORLD WAR III.
( INCIDENTALLY... THE IRAQI-AMERICANS, ASSYRIAN-AMERICANS IN THIS COUNTRY
ARE SUPPORTING AMERICAN TROOPS BUT REMEMBER THEY ARE THE POLITICAL
IMMIGRANTS FROM THEIR COUNTRIES... THEY HATED THE REGIME AND THEY HAD TO
GO, THEY PROBABLY DID MORE THAN JUST HATE... I MEAN YOU CAN NOT SATISFY
EVERYBODY 100% NO MATTER WHERE, NO REGIME IS PERFECT, IS IT HERE ? )
SADDAM IS NOT A SCUMBAG HE USED TO BE... HE PUT ON THE IRAQI FLAG:
GOD IS GREAT SYMBOL. IF THAT WAS DONE WITH GOOD INTENTION OR NOT IT WAS
NOT A BAD THING TO DO. THE ONLY NATION IN THE WORLD PUBLICLY PROCLAIMED
ITS ALLIANCE WITH GOD OR CLOSE TO IT... BUT HE IS STILL CONSIDERED EVIL.
IF HE IS caught HE SHOULD ONLY BE TRIED BY HAGUE, NOT THE PUPPET GOVERNMENT
WHO HATES HIM. IT WILL ONLY CREATE MORE PROBLEMS.
THERE IS ALREADY A CIVIL WAR GOING ON IN IRAQ & PEOPLE DONT RECOGNIZE THAT.
REVANGE KILLING ARE ON ALL TIME HIGH RISE. IN BAGHDAD UNDER SADDAM
THERE WAS ONLY 80-100 MURDERES PER YEAR, RIGHT NOW IS 8000 OR SOMETHING
LIKE THAT. AND THE WAR CRIMES... WHY THE HELL DOES HAGUE
EVEN EXIST ? WHEN WILL THEY CHARGE THE "COALTION" AND THEIR LEADERS AND
INTERROGATORS FOR THEIR WAR CRIMES ?
(It's good Hague exists to put on trial some criminals and scumbags
from Yugoslavian republics and Rwanda... but International Criminal Court
and Hague should not allow exemptions for countries like america
and it should equally put on trial anybody or everybody responsible for crimes,
death penalty should exist as well, longer terms should be given too)
HAGUE IS AN ILLEGAL COURT IN THE FIRST PLACE; CREATED BY NATO
TERRORIST (THAT IS I HOPE THEY ARE NOT TERRORISTS NOW) BOMBING OF KOSOVO
AND BEFORE. THEIR MAIN MISSION WAS TO PUT ON TRIAL SERBS AND MOSTLY
SERBS, MAY BE ONLY A FEW CROATS AND RWANDIANS AND WHERE ARE THE CRIMINALS
FROM CAMBODIA AND OTHER PLACES ? THERE SHOULD BE NO TIME LIMIT
OR WHEN THE CRIME WAS COMMITTED. THE ICC WILL ONLY JUDGE CASES
FROM 1/1/02 CRIMES AND ONWARDS.
THE INTENATIONAL CRIMINAL COURT SHOULD BE CREATED AND DEATH PENALTY IMPLEMENTED.
A COURT THAT WILL BE RECOGNIZED BY ALL THE NATIONS WORLDWIDE WITH
JUDGES FROM ALL OVER THE PLANET. A COURT THAT WILL BE NEUTRAL AND INDEPENDENT.
WHY CAN'T THEY EVEN GO AFTER CAMBODIA KILLERS, INCLUDING
BROTHER #2 WHO IS STILL ALIVE AND ROAMING CAMBODIA FREELY AS A FREE MAN ?
WE ALL AGREE SADDAM AND HIS SONS MUST BE GONE, OUT OF POWER. (if he really
created lots of weapons of mass destruction)
THE SOONER, THE BETTER BUT NOT THE WAY BUSH IS DOING. BUSH SHOULD BE GONE ASAP.
BUSH'S WAY ONLY MAKES THINGS WORSE. BOTH BOTH U.S. AND IRAQ IN MANY WAYS.
The war on Iraq is illegal, unethical and etc ??? Yes...
There are many, many other reasons to mention here... First of all
President Bush ( his administraion and closest irresponsible advisers,
they should go to war, not seat in a warm chair and order around, that's easy )
started this war long, long time ago... He slowly and surely
and systematically pushed towards this war. He persuaded Congress ( 76-23 )
with his tough speeches and tied Septemeber 11th with Iraq that this war is a
must. But to the contrary. Bin Laden's and Saddam's ideologies are different.
In 1991 Bin Laden offered his services to Kuwait to fight against Saddam.
In his deceitful full of lies speeches Bush is cunning and does a good
job of brainwashing the public. That's nothing new, it happened throughout
the beginning of the world. Good orators can really get their terrible massages
across. Usually they use a little bit of truth and combine that with their
messages and it brings good results. ( By adding a book or a documentary helps)
People just dont bother finding the truth for themselves from other sources
and other sides. Bush refused to have one on one speech with Saddam
televises live around the world. He knew that will mess up all of his plans.
His advisers are responsible for their actions and they are morons as well
(Even if they catch or kill Saddam, he still will be fighting, the idea is
still there, supporters and there will be no peace for U.S. and its allies
and at the end of the day nothing really will be accomplished, except for
the human pain and suffering U.S. brought about).
We know there are two sides to every story, so far we are only listening
to one old stupid story by cowboy Bush, his CIA backers and other folks who
wanted this war for their own benefit.
Bush ignores the U.N. resolutions and the wishes of the majority around
the world. He made himself very clear that if Saddam Hussein does not disarm
he will face serious consequences... In United Nations' inspections reports
there was no major evidence Saddam was creating weapons and chemicals of mass
destruction. Bush insisted he has "evidence" Saddam violated many U.N.
resolutions. But his evidence was inconclusive and not a real evidence...
( I mean if they find few old war heads filled with biological guess... that
does not mean anything )
For example... The U.S. spy satellites recorded a conversation between military
people about moving some trucks out of inspection sites as soon as possible
before the inspectors come... That does not proove anything... That could very
well be an order to move them to a different place
or this could mean those trucks had to go somewhere or they had to be
checked for a regular maintanace procedure... It could mean anything...
President Bush Sr. messed up the things in the first place... He did not
finish the war properly. On March 1st 1991 in a public interview he stated
that something is missing... Something is missing ? Give me a break...
Ok, so he freed the Kuwait, oil fields and its people.
What about destroyed museums and places of education ? Even education has
halted in iraq, professors are being killed on mass scales, not to mention
clerics and everybody else with some brains. (nazi like spirit lives on)
America protected most of oild fields... So what... Iraq can not defend itself,
they are together, only on paper.
So what... There was another war waging in Iraq. The Iraq regime was now killing
its own people. (who rebeled) Those people who opposed the war and those who
wanted independence tried to get it. The Kurds and other muslims were brutally
crushed. Around 200 000+ people were killed to say the least.
The Shiites and Sunnis will be on their way to a civil war, at least
on a minor scale, the division and hate will be huge between them.
The women might have more rights, but they will be forces to wear veils.
How come Bush did not finish this war the proper way ? What was the
purpose of that 'victory' if Saddam stayed in power and continued oppressing
his own people ? America's interests were secured and the rest... it
was not her business. If Bush went after Saddam in 1991 the war would
have ended long, long time ago. I am not blaming the first Bush for that war,
I am blaming him for not finishing it and trying to finish
it thru his son. Iraq agreed to disarm in 1991 and he tried and he was
not allowed to have weapons... inspectors did not find anything significan't...
Bush slowly but surely insisted they have them and slowly pushed the war
agenda. Bush has no brains. Alcohol drained his brains. He used to be a
heavery drinker. By the way he does not know anything what he is
doing or what's really going on... Did he ever think of the real consequences
in the long run ? Bush told everybody this war is to rid the world of
a cruel dictator and to destroy the chemical weapons and weapons of
mass destructions. He also said he wants to help all of the Iraq
get their freedom and dignity back, get them to live in peace and prosperity.
I bet over 90% of Iraqi people, including some Kurds who now support Saddam...
They may not like him but still they prefer Saddam over 'Iraqi freedom.'
Ok... Did he ever ask them if they wanted U.S. (aka allied help and invasion)
to help them? No... But I am sure some of the muslims were happy to
see americans and british forces enter their land... But not all...
Bush has no conistent claims and his decisions are egoistical.
The country is vastly divided between the supporters of Saddam and
his haters. Those 'multitude' of cheering people welcoming americans we saw
on tv (and may see) were only a handful... There is always an exception,
everywhere around the world. Many people dont like him there,
there is no secret. There is no such thing as perfect government.
The other reason they were waving is because they were afraid
they would get killed by the american
forces and had to pretend to welcome the invaders.
The question remains... Why dont the reporters show the families of killed
and injured Iraqis ? Where are they, where is the majority ?
Those taking the food from the soldiers were yelling
'Viva Saddam' It just goes to show you there are many people who will
fight for him to the end and I dont blame them.
Few cheering people dont mean anything. Even Nothing.
I mean... how can somebody convince another nation they are not being
occupied if such an army gets inside their land, blows up their government
buildings and infrastructure... I mean how would you feel if they did that
to your country ? America is even saying they are fighting dirty... What ?
Well... some are... but just because Iraqi army is in civilian clothes, that's
the way it always was. And when U.S. drops a 2000 pounds bomb on them...
That is fair, it's fair they are sitting ducks, it's fair they can not fight.
And when something happens Pentagon denies everything including any and all
of the growing civilian casualties. Recently somebody shot a man who was running
away in his car, they thought it was some Iraqi soldier but in turned out it
was not, it was a civilian... Their kid got shot but survived and when the U.S.
soldier/marine was taking care of his wounds... the kid asked him:
"Are you going to bomb and shoot us some more ? " Shall I say more ? Yea.
When a helicopter is shot down or something like that they say it was
'friendly fire' or mechanical problems so they dont damage their 'tough
and perfect image.' Remember, the first thing that is killed in war is truth.
Ok... that's possibly but it's very rare... After all, did Pentagon say
their officers are very well trained, the best in the worl ? So how come
all of that is happening so much and everything is an accident or a friendly
fire ? Also another none sense... The many plaza market bombings...
U.S. telling it MAY be Iraqi's who did that or their old missiles...
that's pure garbage...
How can such a bomb create such a destruction and mess
if it really was Iraqi's small anti air-craft missile ? Finally when Pentagon
admits something, they say: 'We regret the loss of civilians' What ?
Why dont they send them some money... All those killed by accidents in
any way... Send the family of the victims some money,
something to satisfy them with. Saying 'sorry'.... dont even
bother saying it, they dont want to hear it. Pentagon always used
deceptive propagandas. This was was about disarming Iraq... now it's more
than that; it's about economy, United States access to the middle east
port, getting rid of Saddam - an official President eleceted by its people
( they want him out even if he did not break any U.N. resolutions ).
Bush is now using liberal action, not republican conservatives. His speech
makers are using same tactics Hitler used to kill the Jews... Using a little
bit of truth to stretch the truth and add bunch of lies. Bush is mixing
facts and so called hard core facts with emotions and past tragedies... thus
creating a big support for him and his bloody causes.
Iraq allegedly was breaking the U.N. resolutions and what about Israel ?
They are breaking them all the time not to mention human rights violations
( ok, the Palestinian youths are no angels... but they have no country after\
so many years ) and building series nuclear, chemical, biological weapons.
Bush defends his stands... saying that Iraqi soldiers if they give up the
fight and run will be killed by Saddam's 'thugs' and soldiers but again he
is not telling all the truth... By the rules of war, you must fight and
you run away you can be shot. These things happened since the dawn of
civilizations. Nothing unusual. The other things Bush/Rumsfeld team
claims is that Iraqi use dirty tactics in their war. What ? What about the
overwhelming U.S. bombs falling on your heads and you have no means of stopping
them, they are not dirty tactics. Bush keeps on talking how the Geneva
Convention rules are being broken by Iraqi... I dont know how much more crap
they are saying. I dont bother even commenting on that garbage. Bush wants to
make this war look as if nothing is happening as if it is God's demand given
to him from heaven in person.
( It will be a tragedy if this psycho president is re-eleceted )
Upon U.S. entry into Iraq, the Iraqis asked the soldiers:
" Why are you taking our land and where is the timely delivery of medicine
and food you promised ? "
The so called: "Iraqi Freedom" war is a wrong name in itself. Rediculous.
The rest of the population are hiding in their home or in the underground.
And yea, they have to find a way to fight the opposition, everything is fair to
them now. I mean... Is there any other way they can win... or stalemate ?!
( Dont forget after the war is over, there will be so many dead iraqi people
that they will not welcome any so called: "liberation" they had it just fine
before, most of them anyway, dont forget their parents and their grief...)
Look at it this way... If somebody attacked this country and bombed
us from 1000 miles away telling us Bush is an evil monster and we
must get rid of him (close to truth) and they only wanted to help us...
How the hell would we react... Let's say it's really true... Would
we still welcome all those bombings and the destructions of our facilities
and government buildings, would we welcome the loss of civilian lifes ?
The desctucion of Irai facilities and infra structures was also a bad move...
In order to rebuild that it will cost huge money and why bomb all those
buildings ? Are they involved directly in combat missions ? Those buildings
could have been used for many different purposes in the years to come by
the any Iraqi government. They could have housed the future soldiers,
they were there to be used by the future politicians for Iraqi people.
Would we accept that was an accident ? No way. So what's my point...
The point is that most of the Iraq does not want Saddam anymore, they
are all sick of that tyrant but they even more oppose the war with U.S.
They dont want Americans or any other foreigners in their land... I mean
nobody would like that. They will fight and they will not surrender...
No, they dont want to fight for a dying regime... They want to fight
for their Iraq, period... Just like the illegal NATO
(mostly U.S. air-plane bombers were involved) war in Kosovo,
the NATO crimes against humanity... Over 2000 civilians dead. Over 250 000
Serbs were forced to leave Kosovo because of fear and retaliation from the
so called 'Kosovian Albanians rebelation army'. Those Serbs did not want
Milosevic in Serbia anymore... but they united in the aggression against
their land, they united to protect Kosovo from being split away. The fierce
bombings raged for 78 days... Why so long ? Because NATO finally agreed
in late May 1999 to Yugoslavia's demands. And they are:
1. Kosovo can not be split away and there will be no voting to split it.
2. The Army that enters Yugoslavia - Kosovo will consist of United Nations
soldiers under the U.N. flag.
3. There will be some kind of a guarantee to protect Kosovo from illegal
"Kosovo Liberation Army" activities and their terrorist attacks.
Nato did not want to hear about this demands... Why ? Because so many
politicians these days are so stupid and ignorant... They dont know the
history, traditions, culture of a certain land and if they think they
have a great idea that idea must be implemented without the consideration
to others. That's what happened in Kosovo... No, it's not Milosevic
who was the killer and he did not cause the war. People's ignorance
and a lack of any kind of solid information on the land and its people caused
this war. President Clinton supported the Kosovo annihilation and Yugoslavian
destruction. NATO did not understand Kosovo's history and the importance of
that province to the Serbia, they had no right to impose their will
( and they finally failed ) on that government ordering them to have a referendum
in three years for Kosovo's independence... If they agreed to that in the first
place there would have been no bombing, no military action war required.
At least 20 or or over 100 americans and others from United Nations protection
units died there during and after the conflict.
Both Clinton and Prime Minister Tony Blaire did a mistake there.
All of them (Bush in front of them) are puppets on a string and all of them
lack the proper skills to hold such a high office. All of them are war criminals.
And all should be judged as war criminals...
They thought they were doing something good...
They thought a lot but in reality they thought of nothing right.
Let me be very clear here. Bush wanted this war... no matter if Iraq complied
with the U.N. resolutions or not. Wanted the war... he got it... but
a little bit too late... A long time too late... Bush Sr. blew his chances.
The Casualties of War
The casualties of war... It's Iraq and United States... U.S. ? We dont want
the Arab world to hate us even more. The worse is that the future generations will
suffer because of the sins of their idiot fathers. Wondering why and continuing
the hate who knows for how long. There will be more support of Bin
Ladens in the years and years to come. We gave people like Bin Laden an
excuse to attack U.S. Interestes and everything associated with United
States. We are destroying the american respect in the eyes of the world,
we make other religions hate our Christian religion... Those other religions
will ask... You call yourself just with the things and actions you are
doing ? By killing the innocents and excusing itself with bunch of hog-wash ?
( As of today... 3/31... maternity hospital has been bombed killing many.
Before the war started many Irqai women had to have their babies cut out
from their wombs (without anesthesia)
because they were afraid during the bombing they would
have no access to the hospitals.
(many of the hospitals & mosques have been
destroyed by US bombs and "precision" strikes)
Disaster After Disaster, After Disaster...
At a Karbala checkpoing...
A family of 10 (and 3 wounded) mostly children and women have been killed
by U.S. forces, they were afraid to stop, may be they
did not understand english, soldiers had orders to shoot those vehicles who
dont stop... but how come they did not have orders to shoot the tires first
before shooting for a kill ? Again... it just goes to show again and again
how all the resources and possibilities have not been used to avoid this war )
How many civilians will be wounded and dead ? Many, many.
Bush commented... That it's Saddam's fault so many civilians are dying...
It was a suicide bomber who would not stop. If so, no suicide bomber, not
even the most stupid will ever take women and children with him to blow
others... Because that is too much damage on his side. That has never
happened before... if it did, there were mostly two people in a car or
a bus and they were all male when launching a big attack.
How stupid can you be... Did Saddam start this war, did Saddam bomb them,
how dare he put a blame on somebody else ? How dare he ? He has no excuse.
What does Pentagon know and feel if they are not there watching this horror ?
Duhhh ! ( By the way... how come we did not help with the military action
the suffering Cambodians in the 1970's ?
1.65 million killed and missing to say the least. How come they are
not even now trying to catch and destroy the remaining Khmer Rougue senior
leaders, how come they dont speak out about the human rights violations
in China and in other parts of the world, Saudi Arabia & Sudan ? They dont have
freedom of religion. Some nations dont know what freedom means.
I dont have nothing against those people from those countris, I am sure
they are all great people... but again it's their goverment who is wrong.
If you dont follow exactly what the government tells you to do and
what/how to praise, you will be destroyed or you and all of
the people around you will go to the slammer. Are we afraid to tell them
something... Why ? Because they are strong or because they mean business
and money to us in one way or the other ? Shame, shame... )
True... We have satellite and laser guided bombs and the precision is
great... But there is no such thing as 100%. Already over 900 civilans dead.
Not to mention all the looting that is going on in every city. Did they
ever think of any consequences of this war ? Another thing worth mentioning is
that Saddam was a changed man, he is not an evil man he once used to be.
(He even apologized for some of his actions during 1991 war and he put
the slogan: God Allah is Great on Iraqi national flag. How about that?!!
Also, we know Saddam may use his own people as human shields.
But that is not his purpose, his purpose is to hold off the attack of Baghdad.
I strongly believe Baghdad will be a very hard nut to crack and if they do it...
It will not be worth it in the end. Too messy. I know.
The air attack is too easy and not right, against the law and rules of war...
It's easy to destroy it by blowing it into million pieces... Is that a real-deal
victory ? This will be a huge defeat in every possible way.
not to mention the total ethical and moral defeat. It just goes to show you
what kind of 'smart' President you have elected.
THIS PRESIDENT DID NOT ATTEND EVEN ONE FUNERAL OF THE AMERICAN
SOLDIERS KILLED IN IRAQ. WHY ? OUT OF FEAR OF GETTING HIS ASS KICKED
BY THE FAMILY MEMBERS AND THEN SOME...
The Solution
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Dont tell Iraq to surrender. That is an order and such an order will not
be accepted. This kind of freedom they are getting... U.S. can shove it now
and when the reconstruction starts. Sercretary Powell suggested it should
be under U.N. control, the rebuilding... Rumsfled (who supported Iraq in 1983 &
gave them weapons of mass destruction) wants U.S. to lead the reconstruction.
Soften Iraqi people a little bit, dont attack Baghdad. Let the Iraq
get sick of his leader... Including his elite and his inner circle.
Negotiate surrender in a long run, let some
time pass by... Assure them United States will inspect the sites
with the U.N. approval and under the U.N. flag with armed forces
from people all across the world. And the new government must be elected
without any U.N. Interference... U.S. plans for Iraq government will never
be tolerated and accepted. No seeds will be planted. Nothing will grow out.
With the suggestions I wrote... this illegal and sad
conflict will be solved in a much better and faster pace.
This war leads U.S. nowhere but the the urban war fare that will be very, very
bloody and it may take a long, long time to win it. But if the U.S. wins
it... will that really be a convincing victory ?
At what cost (of human lifes) ? How will Iraq and the world react in the
long run ? United States already lost this war. In the ethical and moral
realm, it lost. Many civilians are dead, kids scared and marks left on their
psyche, Iraq's infra structure destroyed, buildings bombed, economy ruined.
( The media can't just broadcast what Bush or his staff are saying...
they dont tell it all and the average american
public does not know that much and should listen from all sides )
Lots of lifes on both sides will be solved if we do it via peaceful
and understanding way. The U.S. Army should for the time being stay
only in the Iraqi port and occupy that part of the land at the most,
also to protect the muslims from that area who
had problems with the regime in 1991. When the new U.N. resolution
is past ASAP they will join the rest of the soldiers in disarming Iraq
and creating new and safe Iraqi government. Being under American control
like that confused man Rumsfeld suggests will not yield anything good.
That is pure occupation. One way or the other this is occupation.
( Dismarming Iraq ? ... Well if there is really something to be found,
already made, not just chemicals that can be used to make those weapons
and many other things not only intended for warfare or mass destruction )
I also would like to point out the Iraqi-Americans. They have been attacked
and persecuted in their second country as well, attacked and terrorized
by the local scum. Not to mention other muslims... Some muslim holy places
have been put on fire, windows broken, stoned. Loads of hate-crimes.
The Congress should immediately stop Bush and take his power to wage
war immediately. The Congress must realize what's right and
what's good now and in the years to come. The Congress should
realize the current situation is wrong and damaging.
Let's heal the wounds now when they can still be healed.
All the money and resources are wasted on this illegal and unethical war,
why can't we give that money to the poor, the charity, the unemployed ?
Why are we only creating hate towards U.S.A. in the world ?
Dont forget... the mothers of U.S. soldiers will cry when their boys
are killed but what about the mothers and fathers of so many more brutally
killed by bombs, they will not even have graves to bury them in
and used for family and friends for visitations.
( Speaking of graves... mass graves... there were none found in Kosovo of
ethnic albanians and so called ethnic cleansing as NATO claimed there still are and one of
the reasons for that NATO (American-lead) illegal war... There were however
serbian and other Kosovo ethnic graves found murdered by the so called
"Kosovo Liberation Army" AKA Kosovian Murderers. The mass graves found
in Iraq may be the dead and unknown from the Iraq-Iran war 1981-88)
People say we tried hard enough to solve this situation via diplomatic
efforts... No, we did not... We wanted to impose U.S. will on Saddam's
regime... AS I said before... Nobody wants to be invaded even if it means
"Iraq Freedom War" Did they ask for our help, did the majority ask for our
help, NO !!! I am sure some people were tortured, murdered, raped and so
on in their prisons... But why is Bush using that to fuel the fire and to
get support for this war ??? He wants to justify it by any means possible.
Not good, Bad move. Why can't he concentrate on injustice in other parts of
the world... What about 80 billion he wants to give on this war...
Why should we give 80 bil ? I dont think it will cost 75-80 billion,
it will be much more. And what about other places U.S. pledged its financial
support to ? What about Afghanistan and it's reconstruction ? Why not
just stay there with full force in the first place and get the job done,
now Afghanistan will not be a success story as it should have been within
2 years, it may be within 20+ years because of idiots like Bush. Bush's 2003
budget did not even ask Congress for the money U.S. pledged for Afghany's
reconstruction. That is the problem with the U.S. foreign policy, they
ignore forget about the foreign policy really fast. Once they are done
somewhere they must be reminded constantly to keep their promises abroad.
And no wonder some people get angry and support terrorism.
Speaking of all the money wasted on this Iraqi II war...
Why can't we give that to U.S.A.'s homeless and unemployed ?
( This reminds me how many people in Iraq will now be unemployed and homeless
not to mention many orphans... as a consequence of war )
The economy of U.S.A. is going down the drain not to mention many pilots
not flying and flights being canceled.
It's not going to work, they will still hate us...
Instead of building the bridges with the world and the Arab world,
we are burning and destroying them. As the old saying goes to say...
It's very easy to destroy something but it's very hard building and
restoring something. ( like a building or a trust or a friendship ). This
current president is ignoring his people, their shouts, their wishes...
This president won by the minority of votes and he only listens to himself.
His tough stand will do him no good, he still has to answer before God for
his actions. But America must answer to the world and justify this war in
the long run... I dont think it will and especially if they never find any
(already made) weapons and chemicals of mass destruction !!! Iraq can free
itself if given the proper chnace and proper softening of its regime,
slowly but surely... But surely not thru Bush's ways.
Between 65-75% of people in this country support this war and their
president... Why ? Because they dont know the reality of the things,
they dont know the real meaning of the things...
They think enough has been tried and diplomacy has failed. That's not so.
President's letter (march 19th 2003) to the Congress is illegal and not
correct, it's very misleading that diplomacy has failed.
And finally... the reason for every war is because there is a lack of
understanding, proper information, historical views, trust and respect
for each other... No war brings good, not even in the end.
The American people are too busy making money they dont spend enough
time on internation affairs. They only listen to their drunk leaders instead
of trying to investigate the truth based on their finding.
Remember... Every story has two sides to it.
President Carter received a noble peace price for
his many years of efforts... and America is ignoring his work.
We can not ignore every single effort by people like him and many others
who put so much into it and finally when it's time to rip
the harvest they rip death and destruction and war.
Iraq will not accept America's demands and Iraq will fight on... But
when United States finally wins... what good will it bring... Dead people,
no victory and only human tragedy.
Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate... You must vote now to take away
President's powers and stop this war immediately. There are ways I wrote
above to stop this war right now peacefully !!!
Better now than never !!! It's not too late !!!
IF YOU DONT VOTE, HOPE SOME DAY YOU FEEL WHAT YOU DID !!!
THE BEST WAY TO SUPPORT THE TROOPS, LET THEM COME BACK HOME - ALIVE !!!
(or dead) Starting a war is like spreading cancer on a perfectly healthy
sportsman telling him those infectious cells will help him reach new
horizons... True... but the other way around. Horizons of after-life.
Worm-food.
This war is very unjust. The Iraqi people dont have such a military
might as United States has, they dont have such 'precision' guided technology
on earth, sea and air. I mean... How can you fight U.S. military might with
not so sophisticated technology ? Yet they still chose to fight, why ?
Because they dont want invaders in their capital and on their soil.
They will never accept this is for their cause and their 'freedom.'
I mean, who would ? Is the majority of Americans loosing its common sense ?
It seems so. Is this so hard to comprehend ?
And why destroy such a beautiful palace like the Presidential Palace, the
architectural beauty and an art. Why not destroy the White House ??
What would they say then ? Bush and his savasages are acting like bunch
of Lone Rangers and toughest Bullies of the world.
Now... Let's not forget the kids and the youth who will carry the scars of
this tragedy and crime for the rest of their lifes...
Did they ever things about the war plan and strategy in full and in detail ?
They did not think about many thinks. In Baghdad and in other
places... they are being shelled 24-7, living in fear. Is that the liberation
we all want, like Archbishop Tutu said it.... When and if they finally get
there, the U.S. forces will look into the lifeless smelling corpses and tell
them... " Well, finally you are free !!! Why dont you cheer ? We are your
life liberators. we come to give you freedom, dignity and liverty.
Dont you know you are finally free ? Why dont you say something good ? "
IMAGINE AT THE END OF THE WAR THEY DONT FIND ANY CHEMICALS OR WEAPONS OF MASS
DESTRUCTION... ALSO UNITED NATIONS SHOULD BE THE ONE SEARCHING WITH
THE 'COALITION' FOR THOSE WEAPONS... SO WHEN THE 'COALITION' GETS DESPERATE
THEY DONT 'PRODUCE' IT AND JUSTIFY THEIR MISERABLE WAR.
IF THE UNITED STATES WANTED TO SOLVE THIS PEACEFULLY... THEY COULD HAVE\
ENTERED UNDER UNITED NATIONS FLAG AND DO THEIR INVESTIGATIONS IN PEACE...
THIS WAY THE IRAQI WOULD NOT THINK THEY ARE BEING INVADED, EVEN THE HARDEST
SUPPORTERS OF SADDAM'S REGIME. - Facts and truth.
PEOPLE LIKE RAMSEY CLARK, ATTORNY GENERAL, HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO DO
WHAT THEY ARE DOING, TELLING THE WORLD THE TRUTH ABOUT AMERICA'S TERRIBLE
AND FAILED FOREIGN POLICY AND HISTORY WILL PROOVE ME RIGHT ON EVERY NOTION.
Let's not forget other consequences of this war: (or any war)
The sanctions imposed on Iraq really made Irasi suffer (500 000 death could
have been avoided, mostly kids) but U.S. and U.N. did
not try hard enough to understand Iraq... How would U.S. feel if they imposed
sanctions on them and the rest of the world separates ?
The Tigris river was poluted because there were no filters to clean the sewage,
chemicals and other bacterial matter.
These western countries do not know the meaning of hunger,
thirst and misery, etc... somebody should teach them a lesson, especially those fat politicians
who only confuse average minds, who dont tell them everything and hide the truth, twist it around)
The vacuum left by Saddam's regime could ignite power struggles and vengence
killings (rages in Kosovo that's still going on to this day by Albanians who
attack the Serbian minorities)that could trigger long-term civil strifes or
even breakups of the country into little parts.
Other countries will get involved as well to take or to protect their interests.
The Iraqi regime will not tolerate United States at all no matter if it's new
or not... They dont want strangers on their soil, period.
Bush won his presidency by 300-500 votes, he lost the popular vote, he ignores
COMPLETELY what others have to say around the world. He does not hear
a damn thing. Same thing goes for his crazu puppet Donald Rumsfeld, that
guy is a pissed off blood hungry maniac.
Bush campaign in Afghanistan was a not-so-bad campaign, it was a great
thing to do, it was a not-so-bad move. It helped Afghanistan a lot, it helped
them get rid of malicious Taliban rule, it stabilized the country and the
country is on the right path. The first war with Iraq was justified
and approved by UN. But this one never will be !!!
America is on a path of destruction and the world
will not forget it and should not tolerate it anymore.
Logic tells us: Negative things bring negative things,
positive should bring positive, it multiplies. And that's up to us to do
something about this. The future is what me make of it today.
This is only a little bit of what you need to know. It's impossible to cover
all the injustice and cover-ups and lies in this aggression against
the codes of what's right, logical, rational, ethical, moral at once.
The more we wait the more worse it will become, the more hate will there be
and it will be accepted this was as it was "meant" to be.
THE SOLUTION:
1. MOVE THE TROOPS BACK TO THE BORDERS OR CLOSE TO THE BORDERS, NO MORE
THAN 50 MILES INSIDE IRAQ. OTHERWISE IT'S AN INVATION NO MATTER HOW YOU PUT IT.
2. SADDAM HUSSEIN AND HIS CABINET TO RESIGN, THEY CAN STAY OR LEAVE THE COUNTRY.
( I think we can all agree on that... unless most of his people really want
him to stay... the majority of polls will show they dont want him as their
President but surely even more they did not want U.S. 'liberation' )
SADDAM HUSSEIN TO GIVE RESIGNATION TO THE U.N. NOT TO AMERICA,
HIS YOUNGER SON TO TAKE OVER UNTIL THE NEXT ELECTION. THE INTERIM GOVERNMENT
TO BE HEADED WITH SOME IRAQIS ABROAD.
3. INTERIM GOVERNMENT TO BE ELECTED AND GOVERNED BY THE IRAQ PEOPLE FOR
TWO YEARS. TWO YEARS FROM NOW WHEN ALL THE CHANGES ARE IN PLACE THEY SHOULD
ELECT THEIR PRESIDENT IN A DEMOCRATIC ELECTION.
4. U.S. TO ENTER THE COUNTRY UNDER U.N. FLAG NOT ONLY WITH THE BRITISH
FORCES BUT WITH MANY OTHER NATIONS TO CHECK FOR WEAPONS AND CHEMICAL BOMBS...
AFTER A COMPLETE INVESTIGATION HAS BEEN COMPLETED THEY MUST LEAVE FROM ALL THE
IRAQI TERRITORIES. IF NOTHING SERIOUS IS FOUND,
SADDAM DID NOT BREAK ANY AGREEMENTS OR RESOLUTIONS.
5. IN ORDER TO REBUILD IRAQ... A GOOD WAY IS TO PUT
IRAQI OIL UNDER THE CONTROL OF IRAQI GOVERNMENT 100%, U.S.
CAN PLAY A ROLE IN SUPPORTING THE PRODUCTION AND BUYING THE OIL, AS USUAL.
BUSH WANTS THIS OIL, HE ONLY PRETENDS HE DOES NOT WANT IT, HE SAYS IT'S
IRAQI'S, BUT YOU JUST WAIT AND SEE HOW HE CHANGES HIS VIEWS AS HE ALWAYS DOES.
6. SHOW IRAQ PEOPLE U.S. STATES IS NOT THE GREAT EVIL THEY THINK OF US...
HOWEVER WITH THE CURRENT ADMINISTARION I DONT BLAME THEM A BIT.
UNITES STATES SHOULD NOT ONLY APOLOGOZIE BUT SEND FINANCIAL SUPPORT TO ALL THE
INNOCENT CIVILIANS. SAYING SORRY WHEN IT'S TOO LATE DOES NOT AMOUNT TO A CAN OF
BEANS, MEANS NOTHING.
7. PRESIDENT AND HIS STAFF SHOULD BE IMPEACHED AND IMPRISONED FOR OVERUSING HIS
POWERS AND FOR CAUSING DEATH, MISERY AND ILLEGAL WAR. BUSH MUST GET LIFE
WITH NO PAROLE.
( to some impeachment is better than assasination, he will not get his
presidential pension and no secret service for free )
8. LET'S HAVE A REAL NATIONAL POLL TAKEN & SUPERVISED BY U.N. IN IRAQ
AND SEE IF THE AVERAGE IRAQI PEOPLE REALLY SUPPORT SADDAM OR
NOT, LET'S SEE IF THE MAJORITY IS RIGHT.
THE PROPAGANDA IS WHAT WE SEA OR HEAR ON TV/RADIO. AND IT'S FULL OF CRAP.
I think I said enough. I also want to add:
Winning the heart and minds of the muslim world and especially of
the Iraqi people was lost before the war even begun. Now, nothing will
be respected and listend to from the coalition side. As some of the
U.S. higer ranked soldiers said it over there and I said it long ago...
They may not want Saddam but certainly they dont want U.S. and their
invasion. And dont forget the rebuilding, it's not going to happen
the way U.S. envisions it.
The sanctions they put in the first place... they dont help, the people
in the regime and in the government, they dont care... THEY HAVE
EVERYTHING, THEY DONT SUFFER. ONLY THE AVERAGE CITIZENS SUFFER, WHAT U.S.
AND OR U.N/ONZ ARE DOING BY THINKING THE SANCTIONS BRING SOMETHING GOOD,
THEY HAVE ANOTHER THING COMING.
If you want to use this proclamation, give credit where credit is due.
History around the world will judge this war not that good. It's like this...
Out of 100% at the most 10% was good to give freedom to some people and
90% it was not good; destruction, loss of life, anarchy. You name it
it happened or will happen. The CIA, FBI and the Bush administraion are
on the path of destruction.
- AS OF TODAY 4/22/2003, OVER ONE MONTH AFTER THE WAR... THERE ARE STILL
NO WMD AND THEY WILL NOT BE FOUND, IRAQ DESTROYED THEM LONG BEFORE THE
WAR, AFTER THE U.N. RESOLUTION IN NOVEMBER.
I ALSO WANT TO NOTE a VERY IMPORTANT DISCOVERY...
WHEN POWELL WAS PRESENTING HIS CASE (WHICH DESTROYED HIS CAREER
FOREVER, WHO BY THE WAY HE IS NO ANGEL EITHER AND ALL WHO SUPPORTED
BUSH'S POLICIES, THEIR CAREERS SHOULD BE TARNISHED/DESTROYED FOREVER)
TO THE U.N. AND TO THE BRITISH HE WAS NOT READING HIS STATEMENTS
NOT PREPARED BY THE U.K. OR THE
ARROGANT AND IGNORANT BUSH ADMINISTRATION, THOSE ARTICLES WERE SIX MONTHS
OLD AND NOT CURRENT AND MANY THINGS HAVE CHANGED. THEY WERE BORROWED
FROM CERTAIN NEWSPAPERS AND MAGAZINES FROM AROUND THE WORLD AND NO CREDIT
HAS BEEN GIVEN TO THE AUTHORS. STOLEN WORK HAS BEEN USED TO CONFUSE THE
WORLD. AND PENTAGON KEPT QUIET ABOUT IT AS USUAL. THE ARTICLES CAME FROM
THE FOLLOWING RESPECTABLE MAGAZINES:
"(JIR) JANE'S INTELLIGENCE REVIEW, MIDDLE EAST REVIEW OF INTERNATIONAL
AFFAIRS (MERIA)" AND LOTS OF MATERIAL CAME FROM THE:
" IRAQ'S SECURITY AND INTELLIGENCE NETWORK, A GUIDE AND ANALYSIS "
by Ibrahim al-Marashi.
AND I WONDER HOW MANY THINGS WE STILL DONT KNOW AND THE TRUTH
THEY ARE TRYING TO KILL... WHAT'S THE MEANING OF THIS LUNACY ?
AMERICA IS NOW NOT ONLY THE INVADER BUT IT BECAME THE LAUGHING STOCK
OF THE WORLD !!! THIS CIRCUS IS EVEN TOO MUCH FOR THE PRE-HISTORIC
AND PRE-MEDIEVAL TIMES. ( ERAS )
IT'S HARD TO COMPREHEND THIS MESS. WHAT CENTURY DO WE LIVE IN ?
THIS WAR IS TOTALLY UNJUSTIFIED, A WASTE OF TAX-PAYERS MONEY AND A LOSS
OF HUMAN LIFE.
BUSH HAS NEVER SHOWN ANY REMORSE
FOR ALL THE LIFES LOST AND EVEN IF HE WAS NOT GIVEN THE CORRECT INFORMATION
HE WANTED THIS WAR FROM THE FIRST DATE HE ENTERED THE OFFICE.
ON SEPTEMBER 11 2001, ALL HE WANTED TO KNOW WAS IF SADDAM HAD ANYTHING TO
DO WITH THAT ATTACK AND SADDAM HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH IT, THERE IS NO
EVIDENCE, NONE, ZERO. THE FEW CONTACTS HIS PEOPLE HAD WITH AL-QAIDA OR AL
QUIDA DID NOT BRING ANY RESULTS. HE WAS NOT INTERESTED AND THAT CAN ALSO
BE PROOVEN WHEN HE WAS CAPTURED ON DEC 13 2003, IN HIS BRIEFCASE A DOCUMENT
WAS FOUND TELLING HIS INSURGENTS NOT TO MIX WITH BIN LADIN' GROUP BECAUSE
THEIR INTERESTS AND BAATH PARTY'S INTEREST WERE NOT THE SAME.
I WONDER IF ISRAEL HAD ANYTHING TO DO WITH THIS, GIVING ALL THIS WRONG
INFORMATION TO FBI AND CIA HEADED BY INCOMPETENT GEORGE TENET (AND GOSS AND
NEGROPONTE ARE NO BETTER ) AND THIS
GUY NAMED... "STUART" IS HIS LAST NAME, WAS THE GUY IN CHARGE OF FINDING
EVIDENCE SADDAM HAD PILES AND PILES OF NUCLEAR WARFARE & BIOLOGICAL WEAPONS.
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NEWS FACTS:
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INTERESTING QUOTES BY GEORGE BUSH AND TONY BLAIR ON/AROUND JUNE 2nd 2003...
When asked about finding the weapons of mass destruction, the mail reason
for the war... Here are elusive answers those boys replied with:
Bush and Cheney said: " We've discovered weapons systems, biological labs,
( We knew about that from the beginning of the war, just like I predicted
what they will say when nothing is found ) that Iraq denied she had and labs
that were prohibited under the U.N. resolutions."
Ok, I agree, they should not have those labs... but so what... most likely
they were designed to produce biological weapons but they were not
used for anything for a long time. However... both the Pentagon, UN/US
weapon hunters have said in the past that labs do not constitute arms. (Duhh)
U.S., Great Britain and Australia had no idea how wrong they were and
the tragedy they caused and supported. (Of course idiots will not
admit to their wrongdoings)
(Update... Few months after I wrote this above, it turned out that
those labs were not labs used for WMD or Biological weapons,
those labs could not even be capable for that use, those labs were used
only for the creation of hydrogen for balloons or for some other good purpose)
Now check out this dork... This guy is even better than Our U.S. President...
" There is no doubt whatever that the evidence of Iraqi weapons of mass
destruction will be there. O yea, absolutely. We have seen plenty of
information and evidence that will be shown in due time to the world.
Over the coming weeks and months we will assemble (probably old footage
of biological weapons from 15 years ago claiming it's new) this 'evidence'
and then we will give it (it? Is that all they can do ? Why not to them-plural)
to people. I have no doubt whatever that the evidence of Iraqi weapons of
mass destrucion will be there." LOL !!!
Ok, we are waiting since March 19 and waiting and waiting... And wasting
time and resources on this none-sense and then some. And what else ?
One more thing... What does he mean by "assemble evidence" ?
Are they going to build the evidence in factory and assemble it ?
He just admitted it. There something fishy going on ever here and
there is loads of heavy stench getting out, plug your noses.
7.22.03 Uday and Qusay are dead... ok... Uday certainly deserved
to die and Qusay almost too... But Qusay's son Mustpha did not deserve to
die, he was only 14 years old... such a mighty military, why did it take
them six hours of fighting to kill them, 250 soldiers and kill them
with bombs thrown at the house thrown from helicopters...
Why could not they just used some sleeping gas...
again innocent people had to die...
"The aggression armies surrounding them with all kinds of weapons and
ground troops were not able to conquer them until they used their warplanes
on the house that they were in." ( - Hussein 7/29/2003 )
- Same thing with the April 7th assassinnaation attempt...
15 civilians died, private residences were bombed.
And so many other murders happened we may never know.
Not to mention the many illegal arrests of the innocent population
who still protects their land and their leader.
Going back to our Qusay & Uday story...
Their body-guard was killed and Mustapha was the last to go, Qusay's son.
There was another shooter gunned down by the US forces, total of 5 people.
-BUT THAT IS NOT ALL THE STORY...
THEIR DEATHS BROUGHT RE-TRIBUTION ATTACKS BY THE LEGAL INSURGENCY...
A SPECIAL OPERATION UNIT SOLDIER WAS SHOT AND SERIOUSLY WOUNDED, BY THE NAME
OF BRAUN OR BROWN, SOME TIME LATER HE DIED.
-Captain Joshua Byers killed by explosive device east of Baghdad. July 23
-Specialist Brett Christian was killed by rocket propelled
attacks, many more wounded seriously. IN MOSUL, IRAQ. (where the brothers died)
-On July 21 Corporal Mark Bibby was killedd by improvised bomb in Baghdad.
7/30/2003 Just like I predicted...Rumsfeld's and Bush's charming statements...
"Well at least he is gone, no more national security worries to America
and its neighbours"... Really ? Wow, pure hog-wash.
- Blair's popularity 42%, still can not jjustify war to his people. Good.
Bush can't either. They are trying but only look like fools by explaining
a dubious/controversial and certainly illegal causes.
8/19/03
In Tikrit, six Iraqis were killed and several wounded in an explosion
at an ammunitions dump, U.S. military officials said. Authorities speculated
that the casualties were looters -- poor Iraqis trying to make money by
stripping metals from the munitions to sell as scrap.
-Again indirect & direct results of war, iinnocent die.
In an interview with CNN Monday, U.S. civilian administrator L. Paul
Bremer said soldiers are "not sparing any effort to find (Saddam) and
root him out, and it will happen one day. We'll wake up and it will have
happened." (KEEP ON DREAMING... WHY NOT LET HUSSEIN SPEAK AND
SEE HIS SIDE OF THE STORY... and if he has to go to a trial, ok but
not to some american military court or Iraqi Puppet court...
you know what would happen there... he should be tried
in the International courts only and let him accuse Bush & Blair instead, both
Hussein and Bush are not much better, may be Hussein is...
Iraqis suffered more under Bush and puppet Bremer, you called this freedom,
what freedom?)
In another interview, check out what Saddam had to say one month before the invasion:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/2726831.stm THE HIDDEN TRUTH
11/11/2003 No reason for any more updates... except this one.
I shall be prooven correct in many ways as I was in the beginning and will be.
It's been discovered Saddam was offering US Inspectors a free
entry into Iraq, even a few thousand of them (except for the army, of course)
one month before the war so they could see for themselves they had no
WMD... also three days before the war started Saddam wanted to give up
his throne to his son... No, not every peaceful solution has been exhausted,
there is no excuse for the Bush administration (Reinsfeld, Powell,
Paul Wolfwitz and other "humanly possible war avoiders" liers)
and or anybody else associated with them...
Both President Clinton and now President Bush lied about Saddam not
allowing or kicking the inspectors out, the demands were just way
too much for any country to accept. Those demands were like being slapped
in the face.
The only good thing about Bush is his signing
of partial anti abortion bill, at least some life was saved there and in
Iraq lots of lifes are for nothing. (International-wise too)
Sure, they will have it better without Saddam but that is only because
sanctions will be lifted. Sanctions itself killed 100 000's of people.
United Nations should also be ashamed for allowing it, those sanctions
killed lots of kids. Diseases treatable by simple drugs like aspirin
which releaves fever & pain were not available.
3/25/2004
This should be my last update.
As you can see, the U.S.A. is in deeper crap than ever before.
Israel does not care what the world community says, (not to mention
all the land they took illegally from Palestine, Gaza and many more provinces)
they keep on killing defenseless people with high technology. And now
USA has to pay because of them, sooner or later.
Instead of going into Israel and Palestine and bring peace
and stability into that region
they went to poor Iraq to make it even poorer, people dying
every day, no jobs, no security, no nothing, except lawlessness,
revange killingss, terroristt attacks and then some.
We are truly better, happier and safer than one year ago.
(LET'S NOT FORGET ROBERT KENNEDY WAS KILLED BECAYSE IF HUS UNILETERAL
SUPPORT FOR ISRAEL, FOR EX. SALES OF JET BOMBING PLANES WHICH USUALLY
KILL THE INNOCENT PEOPLE AND CHILDREN, a lesson to laern from so it
will not be repeated again in a broader way).
BOTH CLINTON AND BUSH ADMINISTRATION LACKED TRUE INTELLIGENCE AND IT
WAS GIVEN TO THEM AS SUCH AND THEY DID NOT BOTHER DOUBLE CHECKING IT!
WISDOM AND BROADER UNDERSTANDING ON MANY ISSUES. IT'S TRULY A SHAME &
TRAGEDY THAT U.S.A. DOES NOT OR CAN NOT HAVE A GOOD PRESIDENT,
THERE ARE MANY PEOPLE WHO REALLY QUALIFY BUT WRONG PEOPLE GET ELECTED,
WHAT IGNORANCE OF THE VOTERS AND THEIR PARTIES...
NOT ALL PEACEFULL SOLUTIONS WERE EXHAUSTED IN KOSOVO OR IRAQ,
NOT ALL THE PEACEFUL RESOURCES WERE DEPLETED.
WITH GREAT POWER COMES EVEN BIGGER RESPONSIBILITY
AND NOW THEY DONT WANT TO ADMIT THEIR MISTAKES. STILL JUSTIFYING THEY ARE
CORRECT WITH THEIR PHONY SPEECHES WRITTEN BY OTHER PAID IDIOTS.
- With great power comes even greater responsibility... so a real good, smart,
intelligent and understanding men and women must be leaders, true philosophers
with values as the core of their ideals. (These people are virtually extinct)
I ALSO WANT TO ADD... IRAQ WAS A SECULAR NATION, LOOK, WHAT ARE THEY
NOW ? WOMEN HAD ALL THE RIGHTS (UNLIKE THE REST OF MUSLIM NATIONS);
YOU WERE ALLOWED TO SELL SMOKE AND ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES, LOOK NOW...
IF YOU DO IT YOU ARE RISKING YOUR LIFE. PEOPLE ARE LEAVING THE COUNTRY
LOOKING FOR BETTER LIFE. FROM RANCR$BL|%&`P`@>@HB>@C>xBp&H@BtM<A6F@@a!!b$HqbD )