Tiny Daddy's FAQ


A Tube Stereo Amp:

Once upon a time a long time ago (1967) I built an amp using 807's but it was not satisfactory sounding. I can't entirely blame the 807's because I was using a cast-off output transformer and did not have very good speakers (2-speaker mono). Then I (and a lot of others) bought a solid-state amp and for the next 20 years (!) thought the problem was with the needle/cartridge. But my SS power amp started developing problems and I wanted something different. So in the summer of 2000 I started building a power amp for those really nifty-looking 3E29's that I got at a thrift store for 25 cents, and now use Mullard QQV07/40, one in push-pull in each channel. The Power supply is fully tube regulated, saved from a dumpster. I can now say that the design is stable and sounds wonderful, even blissful. Even subsonic wow and rumble from vinyl is reproduced. Square waves look good too! This amp really transmits the sound.

So I have been using Mullard QQV07/40's and so far they have proven indestructible. I run them a bit hotter than AB with 500V on the plate so this set-up needs plenty of ventilation. I mounted the square ceramic sockets 1/4 inch below the chassis. I tried a simple round hole out to the mounting screws but the QQV07/40's have a larger base than 829B and fill it like a cork. So I cut the hole out farther on four sides, making an odd-shaped hole. I also cut holes in the chassis bottom and in the rack shelf.

Regarding the output transformers. Of course RCA's plate loading spec of 13.7K ohms is not practical.

I used 6.6K Ohms, 60 Watts Hammond transformers #P-T1650P. The speakers (Altec 604E) are rated "8 to 16 Ohms" and are attached to the 8-Ohm tap. I could have used smaller output transformers but the larger iron can't hurt the low end and the larger primary wire may survive if something goes wrong.

This schematic shows just one channel, a cathodyne phase splitter driving a push-pull output stage. Sorry no ultra-linear connection because the output tube screen is only allowed 200V. Referring to the schematic, a small transformer at the top is connected across the 6.3V filament supply. It's center-tapped winding provides for injecting the DC filament bias and saves running an extra wire to the power supply, or using a pair of 100 ohm resistors. The other transformer winding provides a back-up bias supply that is active whenever the tubes have filament voltage, and supplies just enough to keep the tubes within dissipation limits. This is diode-ORed with the well-regulated higher bias voltage from the power supply.

Cathodyne Phase Splitter:

For cathodyne phase splitter with equal plate and cathode resistors:

As a starting point, let's say you put 80 volts on the 12AU7 grid by direct coupling it to the plate of it's driver stage. Then the 12AU7 will conduct and the cathode will be at a voltage several volts above 80 because that's the way it works. So let's say there is now 90 volts on the cathode and therefore 90 volts is dropped across the cathode resistor. Now since the plate resistor is equal to the cathode resistor, and the same current flows through both, there will be a 90 volt drop across the plate resistor. The remaining supply voltage is dropped across the 12AU7, plate to cathode. It doesn't matter to the 12AU7 what the DC bias is on the next stage (for instance 6BQ5 or 6L6) because it is capacitor coupled. But it does matter what resistors you use for bias feed because they form a voltage divider (through the coupling cap) with the driving stage plate resistor so some signal is lost. For output bias feed, always use the largest value allowed by the datasheet. Notice that cathode bias allows a much larger bias feed (also called grid 1 circuit resistance in the 6L6 data) than does fixed bias.

The power supply schematics are partial, showing only the regulators. The power supply is much modified and provides 400-600 VDC, 0-200 VDC, 0-105VDC and 0-10VAC. No chokes were needed due to the active regulation. The control circuitry is referenced to negative 300VDC to enable the outputs to be adjusted to zero. The tube op-amp inputs are diode-protected from voltage surges. Plate and Screen supplies are entirely independent.

The meters are switchable, one for current, one for voltage. There is also a small meter for filament voltage. It is important to monitor plate current and screen voltage since the screen is so sensitive.

The system is well-behaved, meaning no turn-on voltage overshoot, no thumps in the speakers. AC power is switched by a relay to avoid stressing the preamp power switch.

The photos show the original 3E29 tubes, since swapped out for Mullard QQV07/40's

Speaking of which, there  is a series of tubes I don't see discussed much but I find interesting. Here is a list of output tubes that would work in this amp:

3E29, 829b, 5894, 832A, QQV07/40, QQV07/50, QQV06/40 and there may be others.

Advantages of the 829B family of tubes:

They have certainly been cheap and available.

The curves (Mazda & RCA) for the 829B show greater linearity than other beam tubes.

I have heard of good results in triode mode also. But in pentode mode only 200V is used on the screen so forget ultralinear mode.

The cathode structure is massive compared to other tubes of similar power rating. This would benefit attack time and peak power levels. The 829B family of tubes has high perveyance, meaning the cathode surface area is large compared to the spacing of the electrodes. High perveyance tubes include TV damper tubes and horizontal deflection tubes and other tubes intended for high-current pulse operation. Therefore the 829B requires a lot of filament power compared to some other tubes of equal or greater plate dissipation ratings, but then so does EL34/6CA7.

Each tube is a matched pair, manufactured at the same time, in the same envelope.

The 5894 and QQV06/40 are unique because of the simple cantilevered plate structure on either side. It is possible to look clear through the tube and see between the plate and the other electrodes. Other "see-through" tubes are triodes 6080 and 6J6.

829B Grid 1 Bias Voltage:

The output tubes have a twin bias supply. The power supply uses a 0B2 regulator tube operating from the -300V supply for negative bias. There is a 10-turn pot across the 0B2 for adjustment. Also there is a small & cheap 120/12.6V transformer connected across the 6.3V filament supply. The120V winding produces ~50V and is rectified for bias and R/C filtered. The higher voltage regulated supply is diode ORed with this supply. The result is that the output tubes have unregulated bias whenever they have filament voltage, and after the regulators warm up the bias automatically switches to the higher and smoother regulated voltage.

For 829B plate connections I used AMP 66592-2 connector contacts for .062" diameter pins. 829B pins are slightly small for this connector so I bent the contact finger for a tighter fit and covered this with several layers of heat shrink. You may want to use silicon tubing (available at aquarium shops as air tubing) for better heat resistance.

The 5894 has larger plate pins. You will have to use a larger connector contact such as Molex 02-09-1119 for .093" pins (not gold plated and I haven't tried it).

Alternately it is possible to smash apart one of those European set-screw terminal strips and use the contacts. 

The 829B and QQV series seem very mature products. Also perhaps more difficult and expensive to manufacture.  I remember in 1968 buying 3E29's for 25 cents each at a Union Mission store because they had been rejected by the Signal Corps due to a breakage problem. They were loose in a barrel and I bought the only three that were not broken. Breakage was at the seal between the top and base glass. Mullard used a different base

829B Screen (Grid 2) Voltage:

The 829B screen grids share a common Pin 3, therefore no ultra-linear  transformer connection is possible. But the 829B is already more linear than 6L6 or 807 so perhaps ultralinear operation is not required. Pin 3 must be connected to a well-regulated supply because screen current varies considerably with signal amplitude.

Something to remember about the 829B series of tubes: the sensitive screen voltage requirement of 200 Volts which must be closely regulated. Regulation implies generating a higher voltage and then reducing it to the desired value. But if the regulation circuitry fails, the screen voltage may go up and destroy the tubes. It helps to have meters so you  can glance at the screen voltage and plate current meters occasionally (same as having gages in your car). If something should go suddenly wrong and destroy the tubes, it's just time for replacement tubes. Of course the power supply has fuses but these would not prevent damage from a partial failure causing slight but continuous over-dissipation. An option would be a solid-state comparator that monitors the screen voltage and/or plate current and shuts the system down. But perhaps that's unnecessary and easier said than done.

Another thing to remember regarding multi-element tubes: If screen voltage is lost due to regulator failure, loose connection or whatever, the disconnected screen will tend to float up in potential to the plate voltage. This is bad and will destroy the tube. To prevent this from happening, install a 1 Meg screen bleeder resistor to ground at each tube socket.

829B Plate Voltage:

Since the 829B operates class AB there is a lot of plate current variation. I use a regulated supply but an unregulated supply with large filter caps should work as well. A look at the characteristic curves shows that the tube becomes more linear at the higher voltages. The curves are nearly horizontal because the plate current does not vary much with changes in plate voltage. I have tried voltages from 200V to 600V with good results. I am using a fully adjustable supply set to 500 Volts. I could use 600V but there seems no reason to subject the tubes to the extra plate dissipation.

Tube Rectifiers:

From the 5U4 tube data, 5U4 and every tube rectifier has a maximum  cap value. Looking at the RCA data sheet for 5U4, RCA recommends 40uF for a capacitor-input filter, with a note that larger caps may be used if the supply impedance is increased. This means limiting the current by adding a resistor (or choke) from the 5U4 cathode to the first capacitor. The reason is that the capacitor only charges at the peak of the AC waveform when the voltage peak exceeds the voltage on the cap, which had until then been discharging into your circuit. This means that the cap is charged by a current spike near the peak of every half-cycle. This current spike is many times the average output current of your supply. And when the circuit is first switched on with the cap fully discharged, the inrush current is greatest. Unlike silicon diodes, vacuum tube rectifiers are not able to handle large current spikes. When the current exceeds a tube's ratings the tube will arc. This is bad. So the tube manufacturer recommends a maximum safe value of capacitor to use.

You may use larger capacitors on the other side of a choke (RCA says use 10 Henries) or resistor. The larger capacitor is isolated from the 5U4 by the choke or resistor and may be large without causing excessive current spikes because the choke evens out the current.

Choke input filtering is easier for the power transformer because the current is averaged. However there can be voltage spikes that may cause failure of silicon rectifiers.

Another issue: with a capacitor input filter, the first capacitor will charge to 1.4 times RMS, minus rectifier drop. But with choke input the second capacitor will charge to only 0.9 times RMS so your B+ may be more than 100 volts less than with capacitor input. But on initial power-on, before the tubes warm up and draw current, the voltage from a choke-input filter may surge to 1.4X the transformer RMS and your filter caps must be rated for the higher voltage. This is more of a problem when using SS rectifiers.

Power Transformer selection:

If you are using a transformer that you do not have specifications for, some testing must be performed. But it's not enough to just connect a resistive load to the secondary because the rectifier/filter draws current in large pulses at the peak of the AC waveform. I suggest building a rectifier circuit with 5U4 and 47uF filter cap (may use two 100uF in series with 220K 2 Watt balancing resistors). Connect the transformer and apply a load, something like 1.5K, 20 watts. Quickly Measure the voltage and switch off or the 1.5K resistor will smoke. Then calculate the current. The transformer voltage will decrease with load and rectifier drop will increase so you may want to graph the results at a few different load points. If you get the voltage/current you want, you will need larger power resistors, or just build the amp and use it as the load, plus a parallel resistor and adjust the bias so it draws 250mA.Then run the transformer and use a thermometer to check for overheating or to be conservative, use the "rule of thumb": if you can hold your thumb on it then it's not too hot. Depending on the severity of the overload, a transformer may overheat immediately or take hours. Also no strange burning smells are allowed.

The life of organic insulation such as varnish, paper and tape is related to temperature. Cooler is better. The heat is developed in the core and windings and may be partially due to insufficient turns of wire on the primary if for example the primary was intended for 115 volts. Some poorly-made transformers get too hot even with no load. Since the heat is internally generated a fan has limited effect. You must use a  thermometer tell what is really happening. Using your thumb is unreliable because of the non-linearity: anything hotter than 98.6F feels really hot. Most transformers need ventilation and cannot be enclosed in an unventilated box unless the box is filled with a thermally conductive potting. Generally, larger = better for your transformer.

A Circuit Board Failure Mode: Carbonization and oxidation of organic insulation

Did you ever open a faulty unit and find a hole burned through the circuit board that you could put your finger through? Must have been a power surge, or flames or explosion, or something, right? Wrong. I first noticed this happening in the 60's with phenolic circuit boards that used a pair of edge-mounted pins for the AC connection. The set, either a television or radio, used a removable power cord that was retained in the back of the case and shoved onto power pins on the PC board as the case was installed. The power pins were too close together. Since then I have seen similar damage to boards in AC surge protectors, various stereo amplifier boards and battery pack boards. Once a conductive path forms, due to dust or whatever, current continues to build until the board material begins to char and burn away. The burning is usually slow, taking days or weeks. I saw the way the battery pack boards were burning: there was a blackened area that had become 1/2 inch in diameter before anyone noticed something was wrong. The batteries (14.4V) were discharging through this blackened area, causing a small bright pinpoint of light that was slowly but continuously on the move through the charred fiberglass. This process continued 24 hours a day until a hole was formed as the fiberglass was eaten away.

Capacitor outside foil:

Cylindrical and oval film caps are wound such that one foil ends up on the outside. This was more of a consideration decades ago when the capacitors were huge by today's standards and it was necessary to ground the outside foil to reduce unwanted coupling of signals into adjacent circuitry in crowded radio receiver chassis.

If you are interested in using the grounded outer foil as a shield, or in connecting the outside foil to the lower impedance (tube plate): Use a scope or an audio signal tracer, or even a cable connected to a sensitive amp input. Apply an audio tone through the cap to ground. Bring your probe near the cap. You will detect much less  signal from the cap when the outer foil is grounded. Use a marking pen to mark the "outside foil" end of the capacitor.