Cartoon/Fantasy Organization - August 1997 Meeting



The 244th meeting, on 16 August at Gustav Baron's home/comics shop in Sun Valley, drew 31 attendees: 23 members, 4 guests, and 4 public. Fred Patten sold YARF! and gave out flyers for Loscon 24 in Burbank in November and BAKA!-con in Seattle in February. Steve Schultheis took orders for manga imports. David Bliss set out flyers for the August Inland Empire Anime club meeting, and advertisements for his Furry Art.

Don Yee opened the Business Meeting by turning the floor over to Lisa Nelson and Brian Keesler from the Anime Crisis club in Las Vegas. They told about how a consortium of Japanese companies wanted to hold "the First Pan-Pacific Animation & Video Gaming Convention" in Las Vegas in October, and had asked Anime Crisis to help as consultants. The consortium included Sega of Japan, Japan Travel Bureau, and COSPA (specializing in making costumes to order of anime & manga characters). Their goal was to create a big American/Japanese fannish get-together, for promotion in Japan as a $1,500 vacation package tour, and to sell to Japanese pop-culture merchants as dealers. Tentative plans were to hold it at a major luxury hotel on 10 - 12 October, with costuming as Friday's theme, anime & manga as Saturday's theme, and video gaming as Sunday's theme. The sponsors were willing to pay to get major Japanese anime-industry notables as guests-of-honor. The plan relied on the expectation of a large American "Japanese friendly" fannish attendance to offer the potential Japanese vacationers & dealers. The sponsors had considered offering free admission to Americans, but Anime Crisis was advising charging a moderate admission (in the $20 range) to keep out non-fan curiosity-seekers with no real interest in anime. A major problem was that time was already short to entice fans to Las Vegas for a convention in October, and too much was still undetermined to begin publicizing it yet. Nelson & Keesler said that Anime Crisis would begin posting the convention on its Website as soon as any definite information became available. Other news: Nevada had recently passed a law requiring all un-rated commercial videos to be treated as adult fare, and limited for sale to purchasers 18 or older. This included virtually all anime videos, including those obviously for children such as the American "Sailor Moon" and "Dragon Ball" releases.

"And now, my turn!", Yee gloated -- except that he didn't have much to report this month. The Los Angeles TIMES had recently published an article in its Business section (Thursday, July 31, pgs. D2 & D4; "Buy, Cell, Hold: With Japanese animation booming in the U.S., collectors are clamoring for their pieces of the action") about Rick Alonzo's Anime Wink and Enrique Galvez's Banzai Anime specialty shops. The article had included TIMES writer Evelyn Iritani's e.mail address, and Yee had e.mailed her to offer the C/FO's services as a source for information on future articles about anime or manga. She had promised to keep us in mind.

Vice-President Jeff Roady reviewed Disney's "George of the Jungle" feature as reasonably true to Jay Ward's original TV cartoons, but aimed more at children and lacking Ward's satiric bite. The computer effects of the elephant were wonderful. Other classic cartoon characters who were in the process of being converted into forthcoming live-action theatrical stars were Dudley Do-Right and Mr. Magoo (to feature Leslie Nielson). Six more "Spawn" cartoons for HBO had been approved. The live-action "Spawn" feature was okay, but did not offer much besides its computer effects. The "Gen 13" OAV, designed by the crew who had created the first season of WB's "Batman: The Animated Series", was on hold. Roady favorably reviewed "Machine Robo: Revenge of Cronos" as,"'Gobots' done correctly!"

Secretary Fred Patten complained about the Postal Service. He'd had to drive to Redondo Beach the previous weekend to hand-deliver a copy of last month's minutes to Steve Paschke for this month's BULLETIN, because Paschke had not received the copy that Patten had mailed him a week earlier.

Don Yee commented that the QVC channel was offering a "Star Wars Special Edition" video of all three movies in their new versions for $30.00.

Programmer Richard Reichman announced that British TV had just started the entire "Babylon 5" series, but was only showing one episode per week. At that rate, they would not reach the new episodes until just about the same time that they would be broadcast in the U.S.; so it might not be possible for the C/FO to "preview" them. Reichman thanked Steve Schultheis and the SB3A club for providing the fan-subtitled "Maze" for today's program, and Jerry Shaw for allowing the C/FO to tape his latest anime laser discs for our future programming. Two titles mentioned were "Debutante Detective Corps" and the "El Hazard" TV series. Reichman offered a choice to be voted on later for this evening's feature: the scheduled 1997 "City Hunter" feature, or a brand new feature which was not supposed to be on video yet.

BULLETIN Editor Stephen Paschke had seen the new "Anastasia" animated feature promoted on TV. He had cut the mailing list from about 60 copies to 42 copies.

Warren Johnson and Robert A. Sandler enlivened the meeting by arriving in costume from a Renaissance Pleasure Faire. Sandler asked if anyone could confirm a rumor of a new "Thunderbirds" TV series in production. Nobody had heard of it, and there was skepticism that any new TV series could be produced in the Supermarionation process today. Sandler also asked if anyone knew where to buy an original video copy (not a dupe) of Nelvana's "Rock 'n Rule". Nobody did. There were estimates that an original video would cost about $80.00 today, and debates as to how many different edits and video releases "Rock 'n Rule"/"Ring of Power" had had in the U.S., Canada, and Britain.

Treasurer "Red" Baron said that there was $185 left in the Treasury after paying Don Yee the $250 owed him. That was not enough for the club's expenses for the rest of 1997, so suggestions of ways to raise some income would be appreciated.

Don Yee had a correction to the July minutes' report of the anime programming at the Comic-Con International. The programs announced as being on Friday and Saturday had actually been on Thursday and Friday, respectively.

General announcements. Warren Johnson reported that today's Dragonvale Pleasure Faire at the Hansen Dam Equestrian Center had been very enjoyable. He recommended its last day tomorrow. Several other Medieval and Renaissance faires around Southern California were discussed.

Don Yee felt that we ought to raise money for our Treasury by asking fans going to Japan to buy various brand-new anime items to donate to our auctions. "Red" Baron felt that it was unrealistic to get much good stuff by asking fans for expensive donations. It would be better to promise to reimburse them for expenditures, and to auction the items with their cost + $5 as the minimum bid.

A small auction was held. $7.00 was raised, from Don Yee and "Red" Baron.

The vote on the evening's feature was held between "City Hunter" and an animated feature which had to remain officially anonymous since it was not supposed to be available in the U.S. yet. It was described as so bad that it might never be commercially released; therefore this might be our only chance to ever see it. Its theatrical trailer was shown. The vote was 4 for it to 3 for "City Hunter". Most of the audience walked out after the first ten minutes, but those who did watch the whole thing said that they were glad for what they agreed probably would be the only opportunity to ever see it.

During the day, Jerry Shaw passed around a tentative C/FO Web page that he had designed for comments. The general reaction seemed to be that both his and Ed Ngai's C/FO Web pages were fine; were we ever going to use either of them? The front room TV monitor was kept busy copying some of Jerry Shaw's latest anime laser discs onto tape for future programming. The August program shown was:

Heroic King Gaogaigar, #.01, 'The Heroic King is Born!'

Flash Gordon, #4, 'To Save Earth'

Spicy City, #2

Spawn, #5

Hyper Police, #1, 'A Nine-Tailed Fox? Sakura Is Introduced'

Maze * Mega-Burst Time-Space, 'Bold & Wonderful Challenger!!'

Maze * Mega-Biirst Time-Space, 'Bold & Radical Adventurer!!'

feature: [anonymous]

front room:

CanCan Bunny Extra, #1 - #3

Tattoon Master, #1 #2

Jungre de Ikou!, #1 #2

Those Who Hunt Elves, #2



-- Fred Patten, Secretary



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