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Three Keys Home Meditation Group

The following transcriptions are of three taped sessions that I was permitted to record at our weekly meditation group. To assist you to better understand the purpose and intention for sharing this information with you is to allow you to decide for yourself what you feel about these sessions.

Weekly we would gather, about 15 of us, and sometimes more. We would begin by asking that all negative energies, thoughts etc, would be left outside of these sessions to allow the purest energies to come forth. Larry is the deep trance medium, Sylvia is his wife (director). Sylvia would say a prayer and then prepare Larry to go into deep trance, to allow the energy/entity Yeshua (Jesus) to come forth to speak to us. He would greet us with his opening well wishes and comments to start the session. After this step, we were open to ask questions of him that would allow us to better understand our purpose for these gatherings.

Prior to this first tape-recorded session (June 14, 1995) I do have other notes that I can provide on a separate webpage at the link I have provided called:**will provide this later to you** Please refer to those as well. They do provide answers on other issues such as human kind’s purpose, reincarnation, earth changes, family and more.

Please allow yourself to have an open mind and true heart when you read the following transcriptions. These were taken word for word and if there is something here that you question, or are concerned about, maybe even offended by, please do express your opinions to me at trueheartcolunm@hotmail.com . I will respond to your inquiries. After the last transcription dated July 19, 1995, our group (nucleus) continued to meet regularly for meditation group, and we did our best to figure out what our purpose could possibly be for doing this. I discovered that many of us were reluctant to continue without the deep trance medium for answers. This to me was unclear, but it came down to ego. Ego blocked them (us) from fulfilling our promise to share our gifts and talents together, to be there for one another, to assist and support through the coming changes, so that we may better prepare for the work that was ahead.

Many of us branched out into little groups and some of us even started o their own businesses out of these connections we had made. I was inspired to create a newsletter. I called it CREATIVE ENERGY SOURCE NEWS. At the time of it’s inspiration (by Lynn) I had created with the group’s intention in mind and took it to heart that they may want to participate with me, and share some heart felt stories, and special experiences. They did not receive this idea, and most of them chose not to participate. Of the ones that wanted to, we shared and submitted articles and worked at making a non-commercialized version of our Ottawa TONE Magazine. It was not designed to promote and sell anything. It’s purpose was to solely share in the raising of consciousness. After my third issue, I had to put the newsletter on hold because the circumstances in my life were in a little bit of an upheaval.

So, without having to go into too many details about the past, I’ll take you now to the first taped transcription with Yeshua, brought to us by Three Keys Home.

June 14, 1995

Yeshua: Peace be with thee. May peace abide amongst thee, and light thy paths and course through thy veins, and beat strongly within thy breast. I would approach unto thee as trusted friend, as way shower, as one who would share with thee and walk with thee and be with thee in spirit, and I would say to thee let those that would hear draw near. For I would speak unto thee of that which ye would call thy purpose for being.

For off times there are those that would approach and would say unto me "What is my purpose? Why is it that I would appear? What is it that I am meant to do? How is it that I should earn my daily bread?" And I would say to thee as I would say to those, the answer is within thee. And when I say to thee that the answer is within thee it is not that I would not give thee the answer. I would not say unto thee it is as riddle that ye are to find answer within self that ye cannot determine. But rather when I say that it is within thee, ye are to know that it is in thy spirit, thy soul, at thy very core, for that is thy purpose.

Understand that there would be what ye would call talents - what ye would call gifts - what ye would call expressions - each on the individual basis in the human form. Yet, the purpose, the truer purpose is to express thy divine portion. To express that which is at thy core, being spirit, and to express spirit in whatever circumstance, situation it is ye may find self in particular, and in general recognizing it is while in the human condition. And there would be those that would say unto me, "How could I express spirit when I would be surrounded by those that would be fools, when I am surrounded by illness, when I am surrounded by anger and hatred, when I am sent to do the most menial of tasks?" And I would say to those manifest thy spirit even more.

For thy purpose, the purpose of humankind is to manifest spirit. Is to express thy divine nature and bring as forth unto the earth plane. Know that the soul that beats within thee, that lives within thee, begs to be heard, begs to be recognized, and begs to express. Know that the soul that is within thee is the spark of the divine and is composed of only that, that which are three attributes: being love, light, and peace. Know that all else that ye would manifest, be it construed as positive or negative, be it uplifting or destructive, all else is of the human form is a manifestation of the human condition. It is only when ye would manifest that which would be love, light and peace that ye would be manifesting that, which would be the attributes of thy souls. And ye would be fulfilling that which would be a portion of thy purpose.

And here would come unto thee the conundrum (a puzzling problem). For while it is that ye would be in human form ye cannot manifest that which is love, light, and peace in its entirety throughout thy incarnation. Therefore, the balance of the purpose is to express that which can be expressed of the soul while recognizing that ye would be in the human condition and thereby unable to achieve what ye would call the perfection of such. And finally, in thy purpose, would be to recognize that although ye would be imperfect, filled with imperfections, yet, it would be that ye would be perfect in thy imperfection and would be loved and blessed as such. Thus it is that I would speak to thee of purpose. Come and let us begin.

Question: What exactly do you mean by expressing light?

Yeshua: An absence of darkness. Darkness would that of which ye would call the negativity, the anger, the guilt, the fear, the hurt, and the pain. Expressing that which is light is acceptance, support, nourishment, and courage, an all such.

Question: What is the best way that we can be with others to show them or help them to find light? What can we do?

Yeshua: Manifest light. Be as ye would be. Teach if ye will. Show if ye will by example. Do not say unto others do as I say. Do not say onto others even do as I do. Rather say nothing and yet do. And by thine own actions, by thine own deeds would ye prove self. Ye need say nothing else. Save to recognize that ye could only manifest that which is within thee and ye cannot give that unto another, for another must find that for self.

Question: As we work to achieve our purpose, how can we channel our energies in a positive sense leaving out the distractions that drain us of our energies?

Yeshua: Recognize that of which ye speak is not work. One does not work to achieve such, rather one allows. Do not judge thyself, do not chastise thyself, rather when it is that ye would gaze upon thine own reflection look within thine own eyes and when it is that ye have done, when ye have given that which would be thy all be content with such. Recognizing that ye would be distracted, that ye would fall away, that ye would fail, that ye would not achieve, and then recommence allowing that which is spirit to manifest and forgiving thyself as ye would forgive another.

Question: I don't really understand you allow spirit to manifest (reveal, show, illustrate)?

Yeshua: For ye are to recognize that which is spirit is already within thee. It is already existent within thee. And as such ye need not search, ye need not seek, ye need not work. Ye would have need of taking into thy consciousness the knowing, the belief if ye will that ye are divine, that spirit resides within thee. And as such what is required is the conscious desire to express that, which is already within thee. And to allow that which would be thy purpose for what it is that ye would do to be a betterment unto thy fellow human. Thus it would be that ye would allow that which is spirit to manifest.

Question: Victoria' s Question: What does it feel like when it is in heaven?

Yeshua: My child, when ye would be with another child, when ye would be with the little creatures, when the sun would shine down upon thee and warm thee, when the sky would be blue, when the grass would be cool under thy feet, when ye would feel joy, when ye would embrace the little creatures, and when ye would laugh in glee, there ye would have heaven.

Question: Yeshua, is it possible for someone to know consciously, specifically, what their purpose is in terms of what work they may have to do here on the planet beyond...?

Yeshua: That is correct.

Question: And how would a person come to that knowing?

Yeshua: Prayer, meditation, and paying heed to that which would be the guidance that would come unto them from within.

Question: Yeshua, why is that such a small percentage of humanity is perfection in he imperfection?

Yeshua: Rather I would say to thee that all are manifesting perfection in the imperfection. It is the small number that would recognize and be joyful with the imperfection. The majority would strive for perfection and be dissatisfied with the imperfection.

Question: Yeshua, we have all gathered here to listen to, express what it is that we can do for ourselves. As a group here, what is our purpose in being here now together as we are?

Yeshua: For there would be that which is the opportunity individually, collectively, to be as what ye would call beacons of light unto others. There is the opportunity that would exist to create, to form as it were that of nucleus. Such nucleus would of necessity give of selves unto others during that which would be forthcoming difficulties and as such I would pray. I would pray that ye let not this opportunity pass thee by.

Question: So you were speaking of those here individually and when you say collectively do you mean continuing to gather as a group.

Yeshua: That is correct. As well as being that of nucleus of which we have spoken.

Question: Could you speak more about what is nucleus and what is meant by that?

Yeshua: There would be existent, if ye will, on that which is the earth plane at this time in various stages of formation, some in that which would be in the early stages, some in that which would be completed, groupings if ye will, of various numbers of individuals, having come one onto the other, in that which would be commonality of purpose. It is through these nuclei in various locations on the earth plane.

It is through these nuclei that there would be the restructuring following that of the earth upheavals of which we have spoken. It is through these nuclei that there would be those that would come that would suffer of the emotional trauma who would find comfort in healing within these groupings.

Such is the opportunity being presented.

Question: As we look for light and peace and love, the fact is that we don't exist only unto ourselves, and there are distractions and I understand that meditation is a means to filtering those distractions. But is there something else, is there some other action that can be taken to separate the negative and accentuate the positive?

Yeshua: We will elaborate, for we fear we have spoken in a manner that is unclear. When it is that when we say unto thee that meditation is the way ye are to understand that which is the meditative state would allow thee to receive that which is the guidance that is within thee, that would come unto thee, that would allow thee to manifest that which is spirit in the midst of the distractions as ye would call such. For ye cannot eliminate the distraction as ye call the distraction exists. Thy task is to manifest spirit while existent within the distraction. It is through the meditative state that ye would come to know that which is the divine within thee, that which is spirit within that would thereby allow ye to do so.

Question: I have read that there are many kinds of meditation, which is best and how does one go about beginning, or learning how to meditate?

Yeshua: Rather I would say to thee pay heed not to that which is technique, that which is process, but rather pay heed to that which is purpose. Contemplate that which would be thy purpose for entering into that, which is the meditative state. I would say to thee additionally there are that which would be what ye would call preparatory steps. For ye are to be clean of body. Ye are to insure that which would be the spine would be even either vertically or horizontally to allow that which would be the smoother flow of energy. Ye are to surround self in that which ye would call the protection found in white light and ye are to hold self open and ask that ye be given that of which ye would have need of being given. And if ye would approach such in humbleness and with the purity of purpose that is all that ye would need.

Question: Yeshua is it necessary that a person actually sees the white light or just intends it?

Yeshua: It isn't necessary that one see it.

Question: Yeshua, you mentioned that during meditation that we are to be clean of body, what do you mean by that?

Yeshua: Both external and internal. Externally be clean having bathed or otherwise cleansed the body. Internally, there is not to be within the body that which would be of dross to the body. It would be of little consequence if ye have taken that which would be nourishment, foodstuffs that would be acceptable. However that which would be of dross, abusive to the body would not be desirable.

Question: So, when you say that the body should be clean, what if a person has a chance to meditate, and obviously they don't have a chance to bath first, it is more important that they meditate isn't it?

Yeshua: Purity of purpose.

Question: What exactly do you mean by dross?

Yeshua: That which has been spoken additionally that which would be of chemical substance of any type, that which would be of the refined sugars, that which would be of the fried foods, that which would be...that would suffice.

Question: And how far ahead of time should you try to not have a full stomach so to speak.

Yeshua: What would be in thy terms one to one and one half hours?

Question: Is there something that one can use as internal cleansing?

Yeshua: If one ingests that which would be proper, that which would be internal cleansing, it is not required.

Question: For consumption of food-it is okay to anything else except what has been listed previously?

Yeshua: That is not correct for that would vary by individual. And that which ye would call time would not permit for there would be myriads of that which would be difficult or counterproductive to the body.

Question: So, in other words, if you know that causes you discomfort or you don't digest well, then don't have that just before meditation:

Question: Is it better to eat vegetarian method rather than other?

Yeshua: I would say to thee that this would be, as ye would call the ideal in thy terms. However ye are to understand that this is to be approached as one would come unto knowing within self as to what would be what thee would call in thy terms appropriate timing for such. For if there is not the readiness of spirit, even though there would be the willingness of spirit, if there is not readiness of spirit and such decision is made from that which would be the intellect, the will as it were, then it is doomed to failure. However when it is that ye would come to that which would be the inner knowing and the inner readiness if ye will, for such, then it would be as appropriate.

Question: Is there anything else might you suggest us as a protection, besides surrounding ourselves with white light?

Yeshua: Ask of thine own guide, ask of thine own teacher, that only that which is for thy highest good be given unto thee. Only that would serve thee well. and that which would give thee what ye would have need of knowing be given unto thee. That combined with surrounding self in light is all that ye would require.

Question: What do you mean by guides?

Yeshua: Unto each there is given that which is guide, that which is teacher. Being those of spirit if ye will, souls that have evolved that would serve if ye will to be as guide, to be as teacher, unto those on the earth plane. (that's where your intuition and your learning and your knowing what it is you need to learn would come from there)

Question: Greetings Yeshua.

Yeshua: Greetings to you my child.

Question: Okay, you said that to manifest spirit, that we should meditate, pray, now I know in other teachings you said that we are all a part of the divine spirit so who do you think we should pray to?

Yeshua: Whom do you think you should pray to?

Answer: Ourselves?

Yeshua: That is correct.

Question: So Yeshua, when we sit there and pray to God we are praying to ourselves, right.

Yeshua: Know ye well, that which ye would call God is not external unto thee, rather resides within thee, resides within all others, and resides within all of creation. The spark of the divine is within thee, the spark of the divine is within all and ye are all part of the oneness. That spark of the divine, that divine nature that is within thee is that which is thy soul, thy soul, thy very essence. Ye have need not of seeking without seek within, for as been giving within, is heaven. That is where ye would find the kingdom of heaven.

Question: Yeshua, when we are...our soul's purpose, what is the soul's purpose, and why does it have to come back to the earth so many times to learn what is it learning so that it can reach that level, that higher dimension, what we call heaven, what is the soul's purpose? Why are we going through all of this?

Yeshua: This we have given unto thee in time passed, however we would say once more, that which is the soul would have need of experiencing what would be in thy terms thousands upon thousands of incarnations, not only on that of the earth plane but other planes, other dimensions. Incarnations on the earth plane would be in that of the male and that of the female, in that of the mostly female and that of the mostly male, in all skin colours, in all portions of the earth plane incarnations of longevity, and short duration, of sickness, in health, in wealth, in poverty, in all such circumstance/situation incarnations of turning unto light, and turning away from that which is spirit, it is only by experience in all that is, experiencing all that could be that the soul could then be as complete and as one with all of creation

Question: I would like to ask one more question about guides. We have one guide throughout our life.

Yeshua: Each would have that which ye would call one guide, one teacher.

Question: For all incarnations, Yeshua?

Yeshua: That is not correct. (in this life one guide and one teacher.)

Question: What is the destiny of the soul after it has mastered the earth plane?

Yeshua: I would ask thee to shift thy focus somewhat. That which is soul, masters not the earth plane before it would, as ye would call, move forward, rather interspersed, intertwined if ye will, throughout the incarnations on the earth plane, there would be incarnations on other planes, on other dimensions. Each incarnation on whatever plane, whatever dimension, would add to the evolution, to the growth of that soul. Ultimately, destiny as ye would call it, of thy soul, is to return to become one with the whole.

(so when we say someone is from outer space, they may well be, Hee, Hee, hee)

That is correct.

Question: As you encourage us to pray or meditate, or pray to ourselves because we are part of the divine. Are you then suggesting that we are able to negate or ignore any entity or energy that is beyond or greater than ourselves, or is there or are there energies that greater than ourselves?

Our present incarnations?

Yeshua: There is not that, which is greater than thy soul, there is all that is greater than thy personality.

End of session: Then I would take my leave of this body once more. And know my children ye have that which is my gratitude and I have come unto thee in humbleness, for I seek only to serve. I seek only to give comfort, and I would seek to be one with thee. Go in peace, go with my blessings, and go ye in grace.

June 28, 1995

Yeshua: Peace be with thee and may peace come unto those that would gather. The peace that would come from thy core, thy beings, the peace that would give thee strength and yet calmness, vision, clarity, and knowing. I would come unto thee as trusted friend as what ye would call way-shower, who would seek to serve thee, to be as one upon whom ye may lean and upon whom ye may draw.

Let those that would hear gather near while I would speak to thee of that which ye have come to know in thy terms as that of religion, and I would begin by saying unto thee that of which ye have come to know as religion is beyond any shadow of any doubt that which is the greatest single cause for the continuing de-evolution of humankind and that which is the greatest contributing factor to that which would be the upheaval collapse and reformation.

There are those who would say, "But what of war, what of greed, what of corruption, what of lust?” and I would say look to that which is religion and in religion ye would see war, power, greed, lust. For there is not one solitary of what ye would call religion existing on the earth plane that would be, as I would say to thee, a way.

There would be those that have been as what ye have called founded, if not in truth, then at least in that which would be higher ideal. And yet each, in succession, has fallen prey to that which is the baser human attributes of power and greed. And I would further add that which ye would call religion has yet to demonstrate, to manifest that for which I stood, for which I stand and for which each ascended one would stand and for which we would pray, that being the recognition and the inclusiveness of all.

For that which is the religion fosters the divisiveness, the separateness, and the inequality that is existent. Further I would say to thee that which is the collapse, were there to be that which is the collapse of religion as ye would understand it in all its forms there would be the healing and the raising in consciousness that would prevent the upheaval. For there would come the recognition of the futility and the hypocrisy that is existent in the, either casual or perceived strict adherence to any religion.

For all would worship with a self-righteousness and a misconception of having the truth within the confines where it is that they find selves and all others must therefore be incorrect. They worship deity that is external failing to recognize that the deity as such is existent not only externally but also internally and is included in all and is existent in all. There is not yet one religion that recognizes the perfect ness and the balance that exists in the completeness of male and female.

There is not one religion that is not rife (teeming) with corruption and there is not one religion that is not totally, completely, dominated by those of the male. And I would ask of thee, how is it, how could it be, what would be the hope if ye would, for humankind if the hope of humankind and the faith of humankind is placed in that context?

I will say to thee that the hope of humankind, that which is the coming into fulfilment of potential of humankind can only be placed in that which is not religion but can only be placed in that which is the worship of the divine in all creation, internally, externally and in a manner that would recognize the oneness of all and the interconnectedness of all. Come, let us begin.

Question: Greetings Yeshua. You were saying in your dialogue that should the religions of the earth collapse then the upcoming upheavals would be forgone - we wouldn't have them?

Yeshua: That would be correct for that which would be the collapse of what ye would call the organized religion would only come about through that which is the recognition, by on the part of humankind, of the futility and the abomination that is that. Were this recognition to take place ye would have the - what ye would call the immense raising in consciousness that would bring about a healing. None the less rest assured that this would be the case that would follow the upheaval in any event.

Question: Yeshua, during the upheaval though, won't more people turn to organized religion as a comfort?

Yeshua: Rather ye would see the opposite. For that which is the upheavals and the aftermath of such would point out the futility, would point out the inequality, the divisiveness that is fostered by such. That which would be the upheaval would be of such enormity that there would be the recognition on the part of humankind of the need to go within and to embrace fellow humankind as fellow divine beings, regardless of that which ye would call skin colour, gender, status, or age.

Question: Greetings Yeshua. Isn't this something that would take quite a long time to happen, that is the collapse of religion?

Yeshua: Given that which would be the current situation that would be correct. However, that which would be the upheaval would bring this about in that which would be in thy terms a much shorter period.

Question: Why are there so many religions and why do so many people follow them if they are the major cause of the de-evolution of humankind?

Yeshua: Ye need look no further. We would deal with that which would be the second portion. That which ye would call conflict being that of the, in thy terms, war, that which ye would call the disparity (contrast) in the, what ye would call war between that of core of religion and that of the populous, those two instances in and of themselves would point out to thee that which would be the contributing causes of divisiveness and devolution. Now then, as to why it is that there would be as ye would call so many, ye need look no further than that which would be the seemingly endless need and variety of needs for humankind to seek comfort externally, to be told by that which would be leader, to read that which is the written word, ye need look no further. I would point out to thee that as there becomes the awareness within and individual, I would ask of thee why it is that the individual would move from that which is the religion?

Question: Greetings Yeshua. My question is, every religion tends to believe in a main deity, and you said each of us contain a spark of the divine inside of us, is there actually on main God in a sense in a religion?

Yeshua: There is that which is, as ye would call creator. Now then, firstly it would be of importance that ye would understand that which is name that ye would attach to such is of no consequence. Ye may speak of God, another may speak of deity, another may speak of Lord, or Creator, spirit or power, it is of little consequence. We would speak unto thee of that which is Creator. Ye may apply that which would be thine own terminology. Now then, there is existent that which is Creator. However, that which is Creator is without form, is without gender, is all encompassing and is existent within and without all that is. That which is Creator is in a grain of sand, is in the molecule of air that ye would breathe, and is in thy fingernail. For that which is Creator is complete only when all that exists is taken as a whole. The transference of substance of one type into substance of another type does not change the containment of the whole. Therefore, I would say to thee that which is Creator is all that is in all of creation. That is what I would say to thee

Question: Since humanity tends to believe strongly in the written word and what is written isn't it better for us to know what the truth is, what the difference is and what the lies are first in order for us to accept the truth?

Yeshua: I would say to thee, that ye would not find that which is truth in the written word and here would lie the key for that which is truth is creator and creator is within thee. Therefore, that which is truth is within thee. And as ye would seek to manifest that which is thy truth ye would be expressing thy nature. This ye would not find in the written word, nor would ye hear this by any so-called leader.

Question: Yeshua, I just wondered if the idea of the divine being within had anything to do with the works of A Course in Miracles or the latest book called the Celestine Prophecy?

Yeshua: The former rather than the latter. For that which is the former was given by my word.

Question: Yeshua, in bringing up children would the best decision for us be to keep them away from existing religions?

Yeshua: In that which ye would call keeping away ye are to use diligence (persistence) for in keeping away as ye would call, ye are to insure that ye do not deprive those children of that which is the knowledge. Ye would do better to encourage and inculcate (instil, inspire, teach) into those children that which is the appreciation and the knowing of the oneness of all. In the knowing, their own divine nature, in the knowing that which is creator judges not, nor is vengeful. That which is creator promotes not what is war, promotes not greed, nor lust, nor subjugation (control, domination) of another. Yet, the child must be aware of all else. However, further recognize, that, as conditions would exist in that which is the succeeding 36 months from where it is that ye find self, this will be of little consequence.

(this will be of little consequence worrying about teaching religion to kids)

Question: Is there any truth at all in the Christian Bible that we know of?

Yeshua: Not of sufficient quantity to bring any degree of credence (belief) or validity to the totality of it. For that which was attributed and of my spoken word is as abomination (obscenity, offence).

Question: Our Christian Bible says that the creator took seven days to create the earth and scientist have a different theory, I'm just curious, how did the physical plane come to exist?

Yeshua: Firstly, ye are to understand, that which ye would call as Bible is at best that which ye would understand in thy terms as allegorical history, symbolic interpretation, no more, we need not comment on that which ye would call in thy terms seven days, for it is not worthy of comment. That which ye would understand as creation was, as ye would call creation. Let those of science give all of what ye would call long-winded explanation for that which would defy their explanation, that which would defy their human limitations, and I would say to thee that which is creation was created, was created, as were souls created.

Question: I was kind of curious how the creation went about? Science says that the big bang happened but was there a...the whole creation idea sparks my interest.

Yeshua: I would say to thee in thy mind's eye perceive a void and within that void, I would say to thee perceive an object of they choosing and in so doing ye have created, ye have brought about creation in the mind. Know that ye have within thee power to take that, which is creation in thy mind, and bring that into material matter. Such was the power that created souls; such was the power that created, as ye would call in thy own word, the physical plane. Do not overlook that which is the simplicity of it. Yet, ye cannot conceive the enormity of it.

Question: Yeshua, some of the things that were written in the Old and the New Testament, and probably some of the other books that people call sacred, holy books, there are some things that are of love and some things that are spoken, whether to whom they were attributed, I don't know that is relevant, but what about the things that are said that mean "love thy neighbour" and "turn to the light," that type of thing. Isn't there any value in that?

Yeshua: That is correct. For we have spoken unto thee in time past and we have spoken of that which ye would call kernels of truth, as we have given, there would be existent kernels of truth. Yet, when ye would take that which would be the kernels, there would be not of sufficient quantity to bring any degree of validity unto the whole. For that which is the scriptures, all of scripture, in all facets of all religion, are based on that which is an external deity that which is separate from self, and in this basic fallacy there can be no further truth.

Question: So, basically Yeshua, when something is quoted, of something someone said, in the bible, basically they weren't there witness it, so it is not truth, it is all made up?

Yeshua: Ye would have what ye would call hearsay. Again, we would stress there would be that which would be of kernels of truth.

Question: I'm referring mainly to the New Testament and the Life of Jesus and when he was born and when he died and the events that took place in between.

In question is the validity of the parentage.

Yeshua: Blasphemy.

Question: I agree, I just had some more questions regarding...

Yeshua: Rest assured, that which ye would call the bringing forth of the child as it were into the earth plane was by what ye would have come to understand as human procedure. For that one, this child is of earthly, earth mother, earth father. Yet, the soul of the child was what ye would understand highly evolved state. However, make no mistake it was human existence in all it's forms, and all it's facets.

Question: I basically understand that religion was created as a means of control of the population. Now, as the upheaval starts, you are saying that we are going to be turning within ourselves, and take religion as an abomination. But as time goes on, the upheaval has passed, won't people turn to another form of control, then again turn back to religion in the end.

Yeshua: No. For although, this has been as what ye would call pattern, rest assured that which would be forthcoming, the likes of it have not been seen, has not been witnessed on that of the global scale and there would be a coming together, one with the other. There would be that which would be the linking of nuclei, whose sole purpose would be to come together and establish a mutually nourishing, supportive, cooperative way of living.

Question: So you are saying that after the upheaval that all previous patterns of human beings have manifested in the past will be broken and we'll see a whole new way of living?

Yeshua: That is correct.

Question: And this will all be complete within 36 months?

Yeshua: As conditions would exist.

Question: So if we stay within the self for our own inner truth as we understand, not look to the external God, or whatever, then that's kind of what I'm getting to understand, there's no external God or whatever, we all have that inner creation inside?

Yeshua: That is correct.

Question: If the creator is in everything, wouldn't it be wrong for us to kill animals, to eat them, and kill a mosquito?

Yeshua: That is also correct.

Question: And what about plants?

Yeshua: That was what ye would call...would be regenerative, thus would be what ye would call the grain, thus would be of what ye would call the nut, that which is regenerative, that which would be the product of the poultry is regenerative.

Question: So it is best that we eat regenerative food?

Yeshua: That is correct.

Question: Yeshua, could you please tell us what the apparitions of Mary, the blessed virgin are supposed to be about. What is the reality of that? I'm referring to Lourdes, Fatima and ...(cannot make out the last part)

Yeshua: That which ye would call apparition as such - that is incorrect - there would be those individuals on the earth plane who by nature of that which would be the opening to spirit would allow selves to be used if ye will as conduit. Ye would have example of such with this one that is Larry. That which is conduit would manifest not only as it would through this one but would manifest through the written word, through that of music, through that of song, through that of touch through that of seeing that which is not visible to others. That which ye would call the apparition of that one known as Mary would be of relevance to those who would be schooled, if ye will, would hold the belief, if ye will, of the sacredness of that one. And as such would conjure the vision. There would be those who would behold the apparition of others of what would be in the terms of those sacred figures dependent on that which would be a schooling and teaching of those. Now then, that which would be the apparition was in truth, was truth, unto those that first witnessed such, yet once more ye would have the never ending need of those of humankind to follow, to see what others would see, to be led, to wish that it were so. And so to conjure up within selves that which was truth unto the first. We trust that we have given the answer.

Question: Can I just clarify just one thing Yeshua? Janet's question was about the Blessed Virgin Mary, but from what you've told us, she was a woman but not a Blessed Virgin. Is that right?

Yeshua: Blessed.

Thank you Yeshua, thank you very much.

Yeshua: Then I would take my leave of this body. And know my children that it is in humbleness that I have come unto thee and it is with gratitude that I have been able to be of service unto thee. And as I would depart I would say to thee, take that which has been given into thy hearts, speak thy truth and yet be prudent (careful, cautious, discreet) and know that this one that is Larry is allowing that which to be spoken, which has been spoken. In particular that of what was ye would call religion would expose that to that which is in thy terms danger on that of the physical, be prudent. Go in peace, go with my blessings, go ye in grace.

July 19, 1995 The closing group session

Yeshua: Peace be with thee and may peace be as one with thee. As ye would come together in spirit, in knowing, and in light, and as ye would welcome me so would I welcome thee. And know that I would come unto thee to walk with thee to talk with thee and to share with thee. Come, let us begin.

Question: After you die can you come back to this earth as an animal?

Yeshua: No my child, for when it is that the soul in the human form would move to this side after the death of the physical body any further incarnations would be in the body of the human, although, ye may be at one time of the male and one time of the female, still it would be in the human condition. And as it is that the soul would evolve, would grow and eventually this would manifest in that of the physical existence, being that of the spiritual existence, so too would that of the animal as ye would call it, evolve. The soul of the animal would move through incarnation after incarnation evolving, however, always remaining that of the animal.

Sylvia: If anyone has any questions about the group and continuing the group would be good to perhaps get those dealt with first and then if there is time enough we can just ask general questions.

Question: Hello Yeshua. I read in a book that was channelled by (is spelled correctly) Hilarian about what he calls block units would that be a possibility for members of this group who are interested in living like that?

Yeshua: This is not known unto me. However, I would say to thee that when it is that there would be the formation of nucleus, and we have spoken at length of nucleus unto this grouping, the nucleus would come together in the cooperative nurturing way of living that would have at its core a commonality of purpose and an existence in that of spirit and that of light, within that context it is not necessary that all those of the nucleus exist within one domicile or even within that of centralized grouping of domicile, although, that is viable option if it is so chosen. But ye may be far flung in that of the actual domicile and still share the commonality of purpose and the mutually nourishing way of living.

Question: I have a question regarding energy, Reiki. I would like to know if Reiki comes from the Holy Spirit or our higher self or God.

Yeshua: That which ye would describe being that of methodology, if ye will, would be one of many viable well founded, if ye will, means of bringing about healing in another. Now then, as in all processes or techniques or methodologies, if the method or process is followed by route, if ye will, then although there would be benefit it would be as minimal. However, if the service is offered, the process is offered from that of the perspective of offering oneself in service unto fellow human beings then there would be the greater impact, the greater healing as it were. In that sense ye would say that such is offered from that which would be from thy higher self. However, know that any such process offered by whomever, if offered in piety, (godliness, holiness) in simplicity and with the desire to be of service would be equally valid.

Question: Hello Yeshua, it has been mentioned that the twelve apostles are all here on the Earth plane at this time for the earth changes. Are they meant to come together as a group once again or are they spread out on the earth plane to help out those after and during the earth changes.

Yeshua: In various portions of the earth plane.

Question: So they will not come together again as they were when you were last here.

Yeshua: That is correct. For know that they are, as ye would call it, these souls, are no more or no less evolved than would be many others on the Earth plane at this time who have chose this period to incarnate, to offer selves and to be of assistance, if ye will, through the process and raising of consciousness of those on the Earth plane. Do not look upon those, which ye would call twelve as greater than thee, greater than the soul that is within thee, nor would I be greater than thee for we are all part of one, the oneness. We are all of divine nature. We all seek to serve.

Question: Greetings Yeshua. Back to the energy-healing question, whether we know of these techniques ourselves, would we be able to heal others and ourselves or is there a special type of process that we would have to go through to learn?

Yeshua: Ye need learn nothing. All of which ye speak is within self. As there would come about that which ye would call the raising of consciousness, that which would be manifestation of such consciousness raising would be that of the lightening of the self. And we speak here not only the lightening in that of the physical being per say, but what ye would call density of the human form would lighten, would decrease as it were, and there would come into the consciousness that of what ye would call returning of the physical body into the state of ease from that of dis-ease. For that which is the human body has been created to function not in the state of dis-ease but in a state of well-being. And when such dis-ease would come into the body the body has within the ware, as it were, to bring about the healing if it would be allowed to do so. Furthermore, that which is the physical body has not been created to cease functioning in the period of time to which ye would be accustomed. Rather it would function in perfection and in harmony much, much longer than would be within thy understanding. And when it would be time, as it were, for that which is the soul within thee to depart the Earth plane, then the decision is so taken, so made and the physical body is discarded. That is what I would say to thee.

Question: There was a period of time that people don't know where you were but they think you had children. Did you have children? And if you did what are their names?

****Yeshua: Although it is that I was, as ye would call, entirely human when last I walked on the Earth plane. Know too, that I wept, I laughed, I grieved, and I loved, and I loved as a human would love, and there were as two as ye would call it, in my existence who were as close as ye would call it unto me and we loved and yet we produced not that of the child.

For further I would say to thee, I would say to all who would hear that which would be attributed unto me and that which has been declared as fact are untruths for I was a simple human seeking only to serve.

Question: I would like your advice for my family. When I talked to you last you mentioned that it would be wise to move from the north side of the river to the south side of the river. When would it be wise to have that move completed and how far south would it be good to move.

Yeshua: In that which would be in thy terms in some 100 to 110 days from where it is that ye may find self, that which would be in they terms anything in excess of 4 - 6 kms. South of the river.

Question: Is that the Ottawa River?

Yeshua: We would not be known unto such. Rather that which would be - we speak of the main stream of water that would flow through the area.

Question: Getting back to the subject of the group this seems from talking with certain individuals, we have all walked with you or most of us have at some time and we have all gathered with you at this time in the group. Is there a reason for this and is there a reason that you want us to stay together?

Yeshua: What I would desire is of little consequence. I would pray and I would hope what would be thy desires would be of greater consequence. For know that there is purpose. It is not by happenstance that ye would find selves one with the other. For ye have within selves the knowing, the consciousness that would create for thee a path, a path that ye would walk individually and collectively. For that which has been will not be. That which ye have thought will no longer exist for conditions will be such that ye will rely entirely on that which is thy spirit and what better way than to give of selves one onto the other, and nourish one another, and guide one another and support one another. Know that ye each have that which is to give unto the other. Examine in thy hearts who ye would be in reality what would be thy totality and what ye as grouping could conceive and manifest for ye have the opportunity to be, to be, as ye would move through the times ahead. Ye would all have much to give and yet I cannot say to thee give it. That could only come from within. That ye have walked with me, if ye would examine thy hearts would be sufficient.

Question: A question about Energy again. I was wondering, what's this energy that is running through me lately? It feels really neat. Where does it come from?

Yeshua: Ye would be as awakening from the sleep. It would be coursing through thy veins as ye would call aliveness, would be within thee. Only the aliveness would be not that of seeing that of the material world but have knowing of that which would exist beyond. Having glimpses if ye will of that which was in previous time for thee. Knowing that this knowing is a gift unto thee as ye would turn more and more unto spirit, more knowing would come unto thee and more as ye would call energy would flow through thee.

Question: What is the source of this energy?

Yeshua: Self.

Question: When soul makes a transmission from the earth plane to other planes, on the other planes is there already a sense of knowing or does there have to be a prompting or an awakening on the other planes as well.

Yeshua: It is only on that of the Earth plane that there is the dense matter if ye will, of the human form. In all other planes and all other dimensions as it will, that which is the soul would exist as a soul. And would exist only in spirit, in purity. There is not the requirement for prompting, as ye would speak.

Question: I read that we come to this life with a kind of life plan how much is true about that?

Yeshua: The soul that is within the would incarnate on the Earth plane into that which ye would call in thy terms conditions, circumstances, that would allow for opportunities to develop, to present, that would enable the soul as it were, to achieve, to learn, to grow in those aspects that would be required. Now then, we have spoken of that which would be conditions that would allow the opportunities to present self. There is still that which is free choice, free will. If the soul, if the personality in housing that soul chooses to turn away from that which would be the opportunity then the opportunity is lost in that incarnation. And although it would not be as ye would call wasted it would further delay as it were the end growth of that soul for that lesson, that opportunity, would yet need to be learned.

Question: Yeshua, by lost opportunity do you mean at the point of a person's death, physical death that is when the opportunity is lost or is there still opportunity during that person's life to change, to learn more?

Yeshua: The lost opportunity is, as ye would call it the date, time if ye will, of physical death. As always there is the hope that opportunity would not be continually turned from and there would be several, several instances if ye will within an incarnation. It is not as ye would call once and then lost. For it is recognized that those on the Earth plane and in the human condition are not the most perceptive of beings.

Question: Hello Yeshua. Speaking of opportunity, you've often said that there's an opportunity for this grouping. Is there anything that you could say to the grouping as what would be a next step for them since this is the last meeting in this place?

Yeshua: We would speak that when it is that we would depart.

Question: I wanted to know what is meant by the holy trinity - the father, the son, and the Holy Spirit. What does it mean?

Yeshua: It is as ye would call the invention of mankind (male) and I would use the word mankind specifically, for any grouping that would recognize Father if ye will as the name, the title, for that of Creator we need not comment any further. That which would be the name for that of Son having reference to an individual who would walk on the earth plane as being the son of the father, being that of God, we would comment no further. That of Holy Spirit is the essence of all that is. It is the spark, of the divine that is within all of creation. It is within thee. It is within all, be the animate or inanimate. The Holy Spirit is in the air ye would breath. The Holy Spirit is the creative force.

Question: Are there any other people that can communicate with you to continue on these classes?

Yeshua: No, nor is it required. Ye need not look to one. For all that would be as necessary would be the desire to continue as grouping knowing that that which is the energy, that which is spirit, and that which is the purpose would flow through all. Look not to this one that is Larry for he is but conduit, one that would offer self so that I might speak unto thee, in that of voice my purpose has been accomplished. That is what I would say to thee.

Question: You were just saying about an opportunity not being there if someone has passed away. Is it not true that if you look at somebody that has passed away you forgive that person or whatever, that you're releasing your own karma? In a way you are growing because you're releasing yourself from...

Yeshua: That is correct. Rather we would speak of that which would be opportunity that which would be lesson, that which would be relationship. If by choice, if by will ye would consciously or unconsciously turn away from that which would be the opportunity, the situation, the relationship, the lesson, then it would be as missed opportunity. We speak not of that which would be absolved and freed by way of forgiveness.

Question: Yeshua, when you were last here how many brothers did you have?

Yeshua: One.

Question: Were there any sisters too?

Yeshua: No.

*****Question: Yeshua, you have mentioned the power of the mind, the power of thought. Do we have that power to eliminate negative energy of food that we eat.............(ask Ulrike about this question) by praying before we eat the food?

Yeshua: Firstly, I would say to thee I spoke not of that which ye would call the power of the mind, I speak of the power of spirit. That which is of the mind, the intellect is subservient (inferior) to that of spirit. That which would bring about healing as it were, that which would bring about a raising in consciousness is not a manifestation of the power of the intellect, but is a manifestation of the power of spirit. Therefore, I would say thee in that which would be the food stuffs that ye would put into the body, use that which would be intellect, use that which would be the mental to make that which would be the wise choice, and we speak here of many such areas. Use the intellect to make the wise choice as to what to put into the body.

Then I would say to thee bless, bless the food that ye would put into thy body, and know that harm would not come unto thee but rather that which would be nutrition would come unto thee.

Question: Dinosaurs were extinct long ago. What did they come back as?

Yeshua: That would vary within that of the species for some of what ye would call the class of animal as such. Some would be more highly evolved than others. Generally speaking, however, they were of lower evolution. And would have moved through the scales if ye will, being that of the reptile and that of the larger water dwelling species.

Question: Were there any humans before the dinosaurs.

Yeshua: No.

Question: Dinosaurs were here first?

Yeshua: No.

Question: How about during the same time as dinosaurs?

Yeshua: No.

Question: So you mean by the time humans came to the Earth dinosaurs were gone.

Yeshua: Correct.

Question: What happened to our souls in the time that the dinosaurs ruled the Earth?

Yeshua: Souls had not yet descended into matter.

Question: Yeshua, I think you said at one time that was about 41,000 years ago that humans first appeared on Earth.

Yeshua: In thy terms 43,840.

Question: So the fact that man existed a million years ago, the information is wrong, the scientists got their information wrong?

Yeshua: Somewhat.

Question: About the group, our nucleus, is there certain members among the group should focus in on as trying to form the nucleus...

Yeshua: No.

Question: Or will we know who to turn to when we need to...

Yeshua: No. No. No. There is only that which is grouping. There is not that which would be greater or lesser importance.

Question: I wasn't trying to say that each of us is important, I'm just saying like...is there a nucleus already formed here that others will see and be focused in on...I'm trying to say this right. I guess...I'm not sure if I am saying this right...

Yeshua: Be at peace my friend. Be at peace.

Question: Do you mean if people...

Sean replies: No, that the members that have been here the (the people in the room another asked) yes, but there's people that come here more often. Are we the people that more focused right now and others will be drawn into. That is what I'm trying to ask.

Yeshua: That is correct.

Question: Basically, what you are saying Yeshua, is that each of us has to use our own initiative, and take the steps for coming together.

Yeshua: That is correct.

Question: Will new people still be drawn into the group as what we call the ripple effect? Will it continue to grow as it's paralleled (?).

Yeshua: That would be dependent on that which ye would allow to shine forth from thee. As ye would bond one unto the other in that of grouping, know that that which ye would form being that of nucleus would contain within it an energy and a power that would be far beyond that of the individuals. And the more that this is held in esteem by selves the more it is that this would radiate unto others, and ye would attract others into thy sphere.

Question: Regarding meditation, I'm sure that that will be an important part of coming together on a regular basis. I myself am not very experience at meditation and how to perform it. Can you help us with that, or how to go about starting it up in a group way, if that makes sense?

Yeshua: Sit quietly in that which would be the circle. Hold in thy mind's eye that which would be thy image. Offer self unto those that would seek. Sit in peace, sit quietly. Focus not on that which would be method, nor procedure, nor process. Focus not on that which would be, as ye would call external trappings, rather from a preparatory state ye need only ensure the alignment of that which would be thy spine, from the base of thy spine through the crown. Either what ye would call vertically or horizontally, surround self with white light. Hold in thy mind's eye thy image. Allow thy breathing to slow and be, simply be. In that of the grouping at each such gathering on of the grouping is to begin another is to end that which would be the meditative time. Thereby allowing all others to just be in peace, in spirit, as one with selves. These individuals are to alternate so that all may experience the bliss of what we speak.

Question: Greetings Yeshua. What do you me by, when you say thy image in your mind? Is that the place you go to, to be at peace?

Yeshua: That would be correct.

Question: So you mean like we have done. Your special place, or place you create.

Yeshua: That is correct.

Question: I have a question regarding...or maybe it sounds a bit simplistic, that I would need some clarification. I was raised in the catholic tradition and I no longer have that belief.

Yeshua: I rejoice with thee.

Question: I would like to know, now on my spiritual path I pray. I have a confusion who to pray to. Do I pray to God? Sometimes I pray to...I pray to Jesus or if I invoke the angels. I don't know exactly who to pray to. I'm not very focused on who to...what ever comes. I invoke a lot of people or a lot of things. I don't know exactly who to invoke or how to focus on. I don't know if that's of importance but I feel for...

Yeshua: It is of utmost importance. For if ye would so choose enter into that of the state of prayer prior to entering into that of the state of meditation, and when ye would be in that state of prayer, and we speak not prayer being that of being on bended knee offering worship to some external deity. But rather, I would say to thee pray unto that portion of self that is divine. That portion of self that is one with the creative force, the creative power that is one with, as ye would call God, for God is within thee.

God is within all that is. When ye would pray, pray to that portion of self that would guide thee unerringly (perfectly)

Question: Are we to pay attention to our thoughts at the time when you're meditating and you have thoughts that are going through your mind, are you to reflect on them when you come out of the meditative state, and learn something from that.

Yeshua: We would answer both in the affirmative and the negative form. Ye are not to as ye would call attempt to block thoughts that would come unto thee in that of the meditation. If they be of no consequence or little consequence, as they would enter through the front portion of thy intellect allow them to leave through the rear portion of thy intellect. Pay them no heed. Yet know that in that of the meditative state ye may well receive that of inspiration that ye would interpret as thought, yet know that it is not thought but rather that that would be the intuitive portion of self speaking to thee, and to this ye would ponder and pay attention

Question: Is that kind of when you have a dream and you...

Yeshua: Yes.

Question: and you what? (another replies)...and you wake up trying to remember and you have a feeling if some of it is absolute nonsense or if some of it's meaningful.

Yeshua: That is correct.

Question: I have a difficulty with this question but it's something in my personal life. I'm having difficulty connecting with people in a way to support myself either or spiritually or emotionally and I would like to know if there is something I'm doing that is blocking this or if this will come about later.

Yeshua: Eliminate that which was from thy consciousness and gaze around thee.

(Did you get that Marie?) Eliminate that which was that feeling that you don't have people to support you and gaze around you. Here they are. They are right here.

Question: When we're in meditation if we see you and you do something, not on purpose, but if you do something to scare us and we run away will you come back?

Yeshua: I would never leave thee. Therefore how could I come back?

Question: Hello Yeshua. Perhaps you have already mentioned that to continue on the dream issue. There are some dreams that I feel are significant. What were you referring to a while ago, that there are certain thoughts that you should just ignore in your dream, and some are important? I'm not too sure.

Yeshua: We spoke in that of the meditative state. In that of the dream state of which ye would speak there is that which is symbolism to all, in all aspects of the dream state, they would be of greater of lesser importance. That would be for thee to understand, to interpret.

End of session:

Then I would take my leave of this body and I would say to thee those who would hear, those who would see, go forward as one. Do not allow that which would be the lapsing of what ye would call time. Ye have been bound, ye have been formed. Yet, that which forms thee, that which binds thee is as the shell of an egg, fragile, easily cracked, and easily broken. Yet, as ye would be one with the other, as ye would move forward as one that which binds thee would thicken and strengthen, and would withstand much, and would grow ever deeper, ever stronger. The choice would thine. The opportunity is beyond thy scope, thy comprehension. And although it is that these three would depart in the physical a portion of their essences would remain with thee and I would be with thee, always. For as I have given unto others I would give this unto thee, if ye would but call, I would answer. If ye would gather there I would be too, to walk with thee, and to talk with thee. I would reach out my arms unto all and I would enfold thee and I would love thee, I would go now but I would not be far. Go in peace, go with my blessings and go ye in grace.

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