Analysis of power-to-weight, Double deck types up to 27ft long, 1947-58

Note. In some cases dimensions have been rounded slightly.

Some 30ft-long types included for interest but excluded from comparative placings.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Operator

 

Chassis

 

Body

 

Year new

 

UW

t.cwt.q

Length

x width

Lts / bhp

Bhp per cwt

of UW

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Double deckers

 

up to 27ft long

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

London Transport

 

AEC Regt III (RT)

 

Pk Royal etc

 

I947ff

 

7.10.0

 

26'x7'6"

 

9.6 ltrs/ Il5bhp*a

 

0.77

 

 

 

Manchester CT

 

Daimler CVG5

 

Brush H58R

 

1947/48

 

8.1.3

 

26x8'

 

7.0 ltrs/85bhp*b

 

0.53

 

 

 

 

Birmingham CT

 

Crossley DD42/6

 

Crossley H54R

 

1950

 

8.6.2

 

26'x7'6'

 

8.6 ltrs/ l00bhp

 

0.60

 

 

 

Potteries MT

 

Daimler CLG5

 

Met-Cam H58R

 

1952

 

6.2.0*c

 

27'x7'6"

 

7.0 ltrs/94bhp

 

0.77

 

 

 

Devon General

 

AEC Regal rebuild

 

Saro H56R*d

 

1953

 

5.19.0

 

27'x7.6"

 

7.58 ltrs/90bhp

 

0.76

 

 

 

Walsall CT

 

AEC Regent V

 

Pk Royal H6IR

 

1954

 

6.7.3

 

27x8'

 

7.68 ltrs/ Il2bhp

 

0.88

 

 

 

Edinburgh CT

 

Leyland PD2/20

 

Met-Cam H63R

 

1954

 

6.13.0

 

27'x8'

 

9.8 ltrs/ I25bhp

 

0.94

 

 

 

Walsall CT

 

Daimler CVG5

 

N Counties H65R

 

1954

 

6.17.0

 

27'x8'

 

7.0 ltrs/94bhp

 

0.69

 

 

 

London Transport

 

AEC Rtmstr(RM)*e

 

Park Royal H64R

 

1958

 

7.5.0

 

27x8"

 

9.6 ltrs/ 115bhp

 

0.79

 

 

 

Double deckers

 

up to 30’ long

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Northern GT

 

Leyland PD3/4

 

Met-Cam H73R

 

1958

 

7.15.0

 

30x8'

 

9.8 ltrs/ I25bhp

 

0.81

 

 

 

Liverpool CT

 

Leyland PDRI*f

 

Met-Cam H78R

 

1962

 

8.14.2

 

30'x8'

 

9.8 ltrs/ I25bhp

 

0.72

 

 

 

*a Engine             derated

 

*b Engine later modified to 94bhp

 

*c One source states PMT Daimler UW 6.3.0 when in service.

 

*d New body on rebuilt prewar chassis. Engine bhp   not confirmed.  

 If Later output of 98bhp, Col 7 figure = 0.82

 

 

*e Integral construction. Production versions. Engine derated.

 

 

 

*f May be compared with 1956 Leyland PDRI /Met-Cam H78F demonstrator 28ATC which had UW of only 7. 1 6. 1,  giving 0.80 bhp/cwt and 0.50 seats/cwt

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Analysis of power-to-weight, Single deck types up to 30ft long, 1950-56

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Operator

 

Chassis

 

Body

 

Year new

 

(UW

(t.cwt.q)

 

Length x width

 

Engine ltrs/bhp

 

Bhp percwt of UW

 

 

 

W Alexander

 

Leyland PS l*o

 

Alexander B35F*b

 

1950

 

6.10.2

 

27'6"x7'6"

 

7.4 ltrs/ l00bhp

 

0.77

 

 

 

Oldham CT

 

Crossley SD42/7*o

 

Roe B32F

 

1950

 

6.11.2

 

27'6"x7'6"

 

8.6 ltrs/ l00bhp

 

0.76

 

 

 

Demonstrator

 

Leyland PSU I/ I3*d

 

Brush B43F

 

1950

 

7.11.0

 

30'x8'

 

9.8 ltrs/ I25bhp

 

0.83

 

 

 

London Transport

 

AEC Regal IV982I

 

Net-Cam B39F*b

 

1951

 

7.15.0

 

30'x7'6"

 

9.6 ltrs/ I25bhp*c

 

0.81

 

 

 

Northern General

 

AEC MC3RV*e

 

Park Royal B44F

 

1954

 

5.8.0

 

30'x8'

 

6.75 ltrs/90bhp

 

0.83

 

 

 

Demonstrator

 

Leyland Olympian*f

 

Weymann B44F

 

1954

 

5.4.0

 

30'x8'

 

5.76 ltrs/90bhp

 

0.87

 

 

 

Newport CT

 

Dennis Lancet UF

 

Davies B44F

 

1954

 

6.9.2

 

30'x8'

 

7.5 ltrs/ l00bhp

 

0.77

 

 

 

North Western

 

Albion MR IIL*g

 

Weymann B42F

 

1957

 

4.19.3

 

30'x8'

 

5.76 ltrs/94bhp

 

0.94

 

 

 

United Auto

 

Bristol MW5G

 

ECW B45F

 

1957/58

 

6.9.3

 

30'x8'

 

7.0 ltrs/94bhp

 

0.72

 

 

 

*a Forward-engined chassis.                       Others underfloor-engined

 

*b Body classed as coach  by operator

 

*c One source states 120 bhp

 

 

 

 

 

 

*d Royal Tiger

 

*e Monocoach integral model

 

*f Integral model

 

*g Aberdonian. Engine as fitted to Leyland Tiger Cub and Olympian with increased power rating

 

 

Comparison of some nominal chassis weights, 1952-54 period.

Single deck, for 30'x8'

 

 

 

Double deck, for 27'x8’

 

 

 

AEC      1952 Regal IV 9822E

 

4.15.2

 

1952 Regent III 96 13E

 

4.14.2

 

1954 Reliance MU3RV

 

3.13.0*0

 

1954 Regent VMD3RV

 

4. 5. 2*b

 

Daimler 1952 Freeline CD650H

 

5.8.0

 

1952 CVG6

 

4.13.2

 

l954Freeline 6HLW

 

5.8.0

 

1954 CVG5

 

4.10. 0*c

 

1952 Guy Arab UF 6LW

 

4.13.2

 

1952 Arab III 6LW

 

4.10.3

 

1954 Arab LUF 5LW

 

3.16.3

 

1954 Arab IV 6LWIightwt

 

4. 7.l*d

 

Leyland 1952 Royal Tiger PSU I/13

 

4.13.0

 

1 952 Titan PD2/ 12

 

4.12.0

 

1952 Tiger Cub PSUC I/I

 

3.12.0

 

1954 Titan PD2/20

 

4.7. l*e

 

*o    AV410 or 470 engine

*b    MD2RA with semi-automatic transmission: 2cwt heavier

*c    CVG6:3cwt heavier

*d    With 5LW engine: I cwt 3qtr lighter

*e    Lightened version with smaller tyres and fuel tank, modified springs,

 

The above information extracted from an article by David Wayman.