* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * AMERICAN MUSIC - August 4, 2002 * * * THE VIOLENT FEMMES Email List * * * * * * * * * * List archive online at http://www.oocities.org/violentfemmeslist ******************************************************************* TOUR DATES(* = new dates): Thursday Aug 15, 2002 HOUSE OF BLUES, Anaheim, CA Friday, August 16,2002 VENTURA THEATRE Ventura, CA Saturday, August 17, 2002 DEL MAR FAIRGROUNDS Del Mar, CA Sunday, August 18, 2002 GOOSE ISLAND FESTIVAL Chicago, IL *Friday, September 6, 2002 SAN DIEGO STREET SCENE San Diego, CA ******************************************************************* In the last couple of issues a lot of people have written in to ask when the Femmes are coming your way. We've talked about this several times over the years - and it is even discussed on the official VF page - but the band goes where they are invited to play. If you want to see the guys in your city make some phone calls or drop some emails to your favorite venues or promoters ... if you ask them they will come! High Road Touring (the band's booking agent) has recently added a "College Availables" page to their website. VF is listed as available "All Over the US - Fall 2002." The Femmes love to play college shows and College/University Student Program Councils are a GREAT place to start requesting the band. So all of you who are heading back to school this month will only have yourselves to blame if you don't get to party with the Femmes this fall! ******************************************************************* IN THIS ISSUE: New Tour Date Info VF on CNN VF on CNN VF on CNN RE:Archived VF webpage CD-R Tree and Da path of the femmes VF Tree Update Copyrighted Music RE: Archived pages ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ NEW Tour Date Info ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ VIOLENT FEMMES to play Ford Stage at San Diego's Street Scene! Street Scene 2002 will return to the streets of downtown San Diego for its 19th year on September 6, 7, and 8 (the weekend after Labor Day). The three-day music festival features over 80 bands on 6 stages, including the sounds of rock, R & B, rap, electronica, funk, reggae, hip-hop, and punk. With such a diverse selection of music and over 100,000 people converging on the streets of downtown San Diego during the three-day festival it's no surprise that MTV has called STREET SCENE "the best musical event in California." For up-to-date information about what will be happening check out http://www.street-scene.com or call our hotline at 1-800-260-9985. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ VF on CNN ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ My 3-year-old came into my bedroom crying the other night around 4 a.m. and I noticed that I had fallen asleep with the TV on. As I reached for the remote I heard an oddly familiar sound coming from the TV as the Femmes were playing live on of all things CNN. I saw them play about a minute of Kiss Off as the closing credits rolled. My question is does anyone know what they were doing on CNN? Did they play anything else? Were they interviewed? It was a very surreal moment like your dreaming beacause you are seeing something that seems absurd, but then you realize you really are awake. SCPGAMEDIA@aol.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ VF on CNN ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I was flipping through the tube the other night, I think it was either Sunday (July 28th) or Monday (July 29th), and saw the Boys on believe it or not, on CNN!!! What was this about? Have they come to this type of publicity? I caught it about half way through KISS OFF and the host was making a fool of herself shaking her maracas to another beat. I have been out of the loop for a while with the Femmes, besides reading the newsletter from Pat. I haven't seen a show in three years and have been disappointed with Freak Magnet and other new material. When are they going to stir it up again like they used too? msclone@aol.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ VF on CNN ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I couldn't sleep the other night and at about 3am I turned on CNN. To my surprise "Violent Femmes 15 after every hour" kept appearing in one of the little bottom of the screen boxes. They must have been in Atlanta still from their show. I of course was wide awake after seeing that. I've dragged every friend I've ever had just about on a road trip to see them at one time or another. Anyway, they never came on! I was so sad. I live in the DC area and they have this cut in of local news at the end of every half hour which I assume ate up the Femmes playing. Did anyone see this? I would love to find a copy somehow. I haven't been to a Femmes show in over a year and now that they are back together it would be so great to watch them playing together. Thanks so much. I just stumbled onto your list here for the first time and love that you are out there!! Dani godotgonzales@hotmail.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ RE:Archived Web Pages ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Well, I don't write often anymore, but that doesn't mean my interest in the Femmes has waned. I just wanted to state that I was at first elated by the info regarding www.archive.org. Some of you may remember my web discussion board from way back (around 1998) Never Tell. At one time it was quite active with Femmes fans discussing their favorite topic. Unfortunately the server it was hosted on had a disc crash, and after that Never Tell was no more. I was hoping to find a copy of it on archive.org, but unfortunately it is not although there is a lot of other stuff from the same server. Oh well. If anyone else has fond memories of it, let me know. Chris (Who sadly seems to have no femmes shows coming to his state (Arizona) in the near future) staley@email.arizona.edu ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ CD-R Tree and Da path of the femmes ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Hey ya'll. A quick shout out to da femme fans in Tampa! Boo-Yah! Long time listener, first time poster. just unsubscribed my old email and subscribed with my newer one. Just want to say, I've been a fan since I first heard a copy of a copy of copy (literally) of the first album. It was recorded over someone's Thompson Twins tape. It was great. Some else lent me Hallowed Ground and I was sold forever. And this is before I bought album #1. I've got a juicy 32x TDK burner that I'm willing to be part of the tree with. Let's spread this beauty around.. PS. the more non-first album stuff, the better. To hear breakin up, new times, all i want, cold canyon, ooooo jesus of rio (one of my faves) wow. that would be delish. The first album was great, the second, better, I think Guy was vital for the femmes evolution, and I hope that continue forward instead of trying to recreate more first album (unless thats what they really want). How many times has gordon sang BITS? Listen to viva closely, American music is great, but he's forcing it. As fans, I fear its our fault. I wish they would just join some tiny tiny label, or become mp3 only and just release music for themselves, to hell with sales, they have to have enough money by now to do that. right? if not, who screwed their asses over. The integrity of the femmes music is what I value, new times was beautiful, rock!!!!! was raw (mmmmmm... ) Was freak magnet an attempt to appease interscope (or was it the femmes?) Did they only release their real goods with beyond? why did all i want get edited up on the final freak magnet? Why did they juice up two Rock!!!!! songs for freak magnet. In the end, I love freak magnet, I love the direction they are/were going, i love going crazy during I'm Bad at "what i would do are the very ....." . I hope more comes soon with vic, with/without gordon, etc... more hod, less hod, larger drum kit, smaller drum kit, acoustic and simple, avant garde and jamming (is there many better jam sessions than the one in don't start me on the liquor?) whatever they want... just stay real, i hope they always do it for themselves, i love the american music list. lets spread some femmes around.. i've got some blank cds and writer waiting. let me know what I can do... sorry for the sporadic nature of my post, its been many lists coming. thanks. Reverend Aaron revaaron@tampabay.rr.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ VF Tree Update ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Hi, Just a quick update on the progress of the CDR tree. Unfortunately, no-one has come forward with a recording from one of the recent shows, so we're going to start things off with a 2 CD set of the Summerfest 2000 show. If anyone else wishes to join in, please do so by contacting either: Kirt Kirt.Knutsen@med.ge.com if you live in USA Michael mikeyj@mailandnews.com if outwith USA. Please state your name and postal address and if you want to be a branch (need cd burner) or leaf. We'll leave it open for a couple of weeks, then we'll be in touch with everyone regarding the assignment of leaves to branches etc. Once we get the first one set up, everything will run quicker next time. Remember, you don't need a cd burner to take part, also if you're not sure how a tree works get in touch with one of us. Finally, I feel that I have to respond to Exodus' post in the last issue of AM: "I have some concern to the CD-R Tree that these people Are tying to start, I can understand "Live Imports" being traded though all the copyrighted stuff just seems kind of stupid" There has never been any suggestion that commercially available material would be distributed via a CDR tree. It is purely to allow fans to get hold of boots (live recordings or maybe demos/rehearsals) for virtually no cost instead of paying stupid amounts on ebay or some web-based bootlegger. Also we don't expect anyone to go on and make any profit from material distributed via the tree. I hope that makes it clear, its a fun thing people. M. Michael.Johnston@achb.scot.nhs.uk ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Copyrighted Music ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ My opinion of music is such: it is far too abstract a medium to effectively imply ownership of any particular song or lyric. Really what is happening is someone is claiming ownership of a very specific way in which air vibrates. That's just weird. I suppose it's different when it comes to CDs and CDRs, though. Personally, I download tons of music and make many, many CDRs. My justification: I don't have nearly the amount of money needed to satisfy my music needs. In other words, there are some CDs that I'm just never going to buy. So I download music, and make CDs. The ones I really like, I buy. My decision to buy is not really a concious one; I simply feel that burning CDRs cheapens the whole musical experience, so if I really like a disc, and I have money, I'll buy it. Also, nearly half the CDRs I make are copies of CDs that I have lost and/or scratched to hell. Sometimes, I end up buying the lost CDs again. For instance, I recently found, in close proximity to one another, three store-bought copies of "The Three EPs" by the Beta Band. I've also bought "This Is a Long Drive for Someone With Nothing to Think About" at least twice. As far as the Femmes go, I own at least two copies of the debut album, and at least two copies of "3." The others I've kept pretty good track of. Right now, I'm broke. As soon as I acquire some disposable income, I'll probably buy "Hitting the Ground." Until then, someone PLEASE share it on Kazaa or WinMX. Sam SDavid4810@aol.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ RE: Archived pages ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Yes I do remember Mike Merryman's Page, It was what Inspired me to have the biggest VF collection around, And so I Put up a sight as I collected my records, Now looking back at it it's been so long, Time has marched on and the past cannot be changed but with what has happned over these years will only be remembered and cherrished and so i ask the question of truth in this final hour WHAT THE FUCK HAPPNED TO MIKE????? where the hell did he dissapear to & why did he auction off his whole damn femmes collection?? Dena?!?!? Pat?!?!? help us out on this one I spoke to mike once but thats about it but I know you guys probably have a pretty damn good Idea on what became of him, or anybody else?? Late Exodus *~*~*~PhRoZeN FoR LiFe~*~*~* vffan@excite.com ******************************************************************* To POST, SUBSCRIBE, or UNSUBSCRIBE send any kind of an email to: violentfemmeslist@yahoo.com ******************************************************************* |