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FAQ # 204

QUESTION  204 :  What does John 17:2 & 24 means, it clearly shows two, I am confused?

This question is already answered in the above FAQ (203), which explicitly gave reasons for the seemingly distinctions. Please read it, if you haven’t already. In addition, note the following.

John 17:5 reads, "And now, glorify Thou Me together with Thyself, Father, with the glory which I had with Thee before the world was."

This was another exemplary hint to us (soliloquy type narration), of what he intends to do with us (Rom 8:21-23). He in his perfection came and took on corruptible flesh, then having felt the prangs thereof, desire to be glorified again. We, who were made perfect, also groaned and desire for that perfection we had. Until Christ came we had no outlet for this. He is that outlet, that’s the reason he “partaken of flesh and blood [BECAME HUMAN]…that through death He might destroy him who had the power of death, that is, the devil, and release those who through fear of death were all their lifetime subject to bondage" (Hebrews 2:14-15). Having done that we can cry like him, “Glorify me, oh father, with the glory I had with thee before Adam fell and even greater, the glory that I had that prevented me from going to hell’s fire, the glory of Justification that makes my soul well with thee always and forever.” John 17:24 reads, "For Thou didst love Me before the foundation of the world."

In another sense, we can also exist in the mind of God before being born, which is usually the case, because remember that he said to Jeremiah, “Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee” (Jer 1:5). How could God know Jeremiah, THE MAN, before he was born? God transcends all time and handle things boundless by anything. I can love my idea or thought before it is carried out, which is usually the case. Christ represents the redemption of man, he saw that they would fall and rather than prevent it, he allowed it and redeemed them by himself, through Christ. He loves us and the grand idea of doing that, especially when he shall finally say, “It is done" (Rev 21:6). Also, though not necessarily in this case, God can love himself, as we do. But the fact is, he seeing this idea of fall and redemption through Christ, love it greatly before the foundation of the world; all because he loves us greatly.

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