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FAQ # 59

QUESTION  59 :  1 Timothy 4:1 states, “Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;” meaning that some ‘saints’ left the faith or in essence, lost their salvation. Isn’t that so?

This doesn’t necessary mean that 1. The persons lost their salvation or 2. That the persons in question had salvation.

Paul was very verbose in his letters and narrations, whereby he could have said about someone as Peter, “when Peter was come to Antioch, I withstood him to the face, because he was to be blamed.” Because, “when I [Paul] saw that they walked not uprightly according to the truth of the gospel, I said unto Peter before them all, If thou, being a Jew, livest after the manner of Gentiles, and not as do the Jews, why compellest thou the Gentiles to live as do the Jews?” (Gal 2:11, 14).

Not that Peter was teaching this, but because he was sent to the circumcision and Paul to the Gentiles (Gal 2:7), he fearing he might not reach them if they saw him eating with the Gentiles. Nonetheless, we see Paul’s tone of voice and often articulation, which was expressed in this verse, “O foolish Galatians, who hath bewitched you” (Gal 3:1): With indirect reference to Peter, whom he said was to be blamed for it in Antioch (Gal 2:11).

Now, was Peter or Barnabas going to lose their inheritance by indirectly allowing some Jewish Christians to initially not associate with Gentiles? Of course not! Similarly, in 1 Timothy 4, some men might have been teaching some things that Christ came and redeem us from, that’s why he admonish Timothy to “refuse profane and old wives' fables, and exercise thyself rather unto godliness” (1 Tim 4:7). Old wives fables usually generate from Tradition, in this case traditions of the law.

Secondly, if they were teaching things that weren’t even along the lines of tradition but outright satanic, then they might not have been saved before and manifest this by cleaving to this kind of teaching; “Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron” (1 Tim 4:1).

If they suddenly walked with the body with all it’s orthodoxy and then fall away in the category of perverse teachings, then they probably weren’t saved; something Peter never did. I can say that because the scripture said, “They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us” (1 John 2:19). In other words, they left because they weren’t truly born into the body of Christ, that is, born again. And if others go with them they too weren’t saved, expressed in this verse by Jesus, “Let them alone: they be blind leaders of the blind. And if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch” (Matt 15:14). The “blind” (unsaved hypocrites) will pull away the “blind” (other unsaved hypocrites) from the true flock and both shall fall in the ditch. That’s why God allows false teaching, to purge the true flock. And that’s why John could have said, “We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us; he that is not of God heareth not us. Hereby know we the spirit of truth, and the spirit of error” (1 John 4:6).

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