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Updated
June 13,
2005 |
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John O'Brien Webb and Rose Mae Hanley |
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John O'Brien "Obie" WEBB was born on 10 APR 1896 in Union Center, Juneau County, Wisconsin. He was the son of Louis R. Webb and Helen Martin. He was 1 of 4 kids.
He died on 14 JUL 1953 in St. Louis, Missouri. He was buried on 18 JUL 1953 in Mt. Hope Cemetery, St. Louis, Missouri. Funeral Home Gebsen Mortuary in St. Louis, Missouri. |
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| INFORMATION; The name John O’Brien was probably given to him on behalf of his Dad’s sister, Angela's, husband who was named John O’Brien. He went by "Jack." in the early years per his daughter Hazel. John changed his name to Jay Webb between 1923-1927. It is believed that he changed his mind as he got involved in the Mofia and he wanted out. (He is not in the St. Louis, Missouri City Directories from 1924-1926.) Johns nationality was Irish, English, French and Indian per daughter Hazel. He was a Business Agent for the Union that traveled a lot throughout the mid-west, per daughter Hazel Webb Malandra. When John and Doris divorced, they continued to keep in touch. Goldie, his second wife, visited with Doris whenever she was in town. John lived with Doris’s mother when he was having marriage problems with Goldie. Residence at time of death was 2113A Cushing in St. Louis, Mo. |
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| John enlisted at Fort McDowell, California on March 16, 1918. He was a Private for the Aviation Sec Sig C. at Kelly Field Tex until discharge date of July 27, 1918. My understanding is that he never traveled anywhere during this military. John sent a letter to his father or his uncle David that said the following; "We sale for France tomorrow. Come on in the water is fine." The family never heard from John again. In fact, his father thought he had been killed at war per a newspaper article that he wrote many years later. It was shared that John's father was very brutal and that John needed to get away from him. |
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John Webb taken around 1942 |
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Obituary for John O. Webb
St. Louis Post-Dispatch Newspaper in St. Louis, Missouri, dated July 16, 1953, page 5B.
WEBB, JAY, 2113A Cushing St., Tues., July 14, 1953, beloved husband of Goldie Webb, dear father of Robert, Harry, Earl, Hazel and the last Jackie, dear father-in-law, grandfather, brother-in-law and Uncle. |
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MARRIAGE; First marriage was to Rose "Doris" May Hanley on July 18, 1919, in Lynch, Kentucky in County Harlan. This was just two weeks before their first child was born. Daughter Hazel said that they met each other while John was working in the service during WWI in Tennessee. Doris was sewing up the man's uniforms. His second wife was Goldie Holdman from Bonne Terre, Missouri. They married in Farmington, Missouri on July 9, 1927 (19 days after their son was born). |
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John "Jack" Webb married Rose Mae Hanley
on 18 JUL 1919
in Lynch, Harlan County, Kentucky |
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| Rose Mae "Doris" HANLEY was born on 17 AUG 1899 in Washington Park, Illinois to the parents of Eligah "Elige" Orie Hanley and Lavina Adams. She died on 13 Jan 1987 in Half Moon Bay, California. She was buried on 18 JUN 1987 in Cypress Lawn Cemetery, Colma Daly City, California |
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| INFORMATION; She changed her name to Doris Rose around the same timeframe that her ex-husband changed his. (Her mother was very upset by this.) Rose was Presbyterian and only finished 5th grade but was self taught and could read anything. She sewed in a factory with a power machine to make a living. Per daughter Hazel, she was very sweet and easy going. |
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| Rose and John divorced around 1926/1927. She married again 3 more times. Married John OEHLER (B. ~ 1890 and D. in 1935) in 1933. Married Joseph Victor BERTRAND (B: 20 OCT 1905 and D: 1 SEP 1968) bet. 1935 - 1953. Married Aloys KINKELAR (B. 29 OCT 1909 and D. 23 MAY 1987) around 1976. All her husbands died of Heart Trouble. This was always a family joke. |
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John and Rose Webb had 4 Children |
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Harry Eugene WEBB born on 1 AUG 1919 in Lynch, Harlan County, Kentucky
Earl Howard WEBB born on 17 OCT 1920 in Alton, Madison, Illinois
Baby Girl WEBB born and Died in 1921 in St. Louis, Missouri
Doris "Hazel" WEBB born on 28 JAN 1923 in St. Louis, Missouri |
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John O'Brien Webb and Goldie Holdman |
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John "Jay" Webb married Goldie Holdman
on July 9, 1927
in Farmington, Missouri |
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| Goldie Holdman was born on April 4, 1909 in Bonne Terre, St. Francios County, Missouri. She died on October 5, 1974 in St. Louis, Missouri and is buried next to her husband at Mt. Hope Cemetery in St. Louis, Missouri. She was the daughter of Wesley Holdman and Jessie Hampton who were married in Festus, Missouri on Feb. 27, 1906. |
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John and Goldie Webb had 2 Children |
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Jack Charles WEBB born on 20 JUN 1927 in Bonne Terre, Missouri
Robert Wesley WEBB born on 22 OCT 1928 in Bonne Terre, St. Francois, Missouri |
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CENSUS RECORDS FOR JOHN O. WEBB;
1895 census (Doesn't say when it was taken), Town of Wonewoc, Juneau County, Wisconsin, Lewis Webb has 2 males and 1 female living together. (parents Louis and wife Helen with brother Clark)
1900 census taken on June 23, 1900 in Wonewoc, Wisconsin shows John "Oba Webb", age 4 (born 1896) living with his mothers parents, Rudolph and Mary Martin. It looks like he was living there with his 1/2 sister.
1910 census taken in Waldo, Josephine County, Oregon, "Ob" lives with both of this siblings, Clark and Angie at the home of his stepmom, Martha Johnson Webb. (His father is not living with them as he is in the Oakland, California jail.
1920 census; Taken January 27, 1920, WEBBS JOHN 24 M W WI KY HARLAN BENHAM 4 B-PCT 1920
1930 census; taken April 11, 1930, St. Louis City, Ward of City 17th, blk 3908, ed 96-53, sht 19B |
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