Mobile Home Notes – How to find them.

Updated 3/16/06

 

The Industry

 

There are not very many nation wide buyers for mobile home notes.  This approach is best done when looking to buy the notes yourself or work with an investor who is local to the notes.  Go to www.google.com and search for we buy mobile home notes and contact the potential buyers that you find that way. 

 

What we are talking about here is a Mobile Home in a Mobile Home Park on a rented or leased space.  It is important to note that we are NOT talking about a Mobile Home that is on a lot or piece of land that is owned or being purchased by the owner of the Mobile Home.  This latter type of situation qualifies for normal housing loan programs.  Thus, it can be purchased using traditional and even government guaranteed loan programs.

 

The Mobile Home that is on a rented or leased space does not qualify for a FHA or VA loan.  To purchase a mobile home on a rented or leased space will require that the purchaser obtain other, non-traditional, types of loans. 

 

A person purchasing a new mobile home will find many options available for financing.  Often the manufacturer will have loans available to its customers.  In some cases, the mobile home dealer will have made arrangements with local sources of financing.  These high interest finance companies or private investors will have less stringent requirements than those of the local banks.  A final alternative for the purchaser of a new mobile home is to get a bank to loan them money for part of the purchase and then come up with the difference in cash.

 

For the purchaser of a USED mobile home, the options for financing are much more limited.  First, as mentioned above, there is no government loan guarantee program for mobile homes that do not include the land with the purchase.

 

The mobile home manufacturers have no interest in helping with financing the sale of a used mobile home.  They reserve their funds for financing new mobile homes that are in their current inventory.  These are mobile homes that they need to get sold to maintain their profit margins for on-going operations.

 

Finance companies will sometimes make loans for mobile homes that are built within the last 5 years at relatively reasonable rates (10% to 12%).  If the mobile home is older than that the interest rates increase significantly (14% to 18% and higher).  Finance companies will NOT finance a mobile home that was built before 1976.  Actually, most will not finance anything made before 1985.  This is the year when the original HUD National Manufactured Home Construction and Safety Standards were beefed up.  Since 1985 mobile homes are built to standards that are similar to the minimum local and county standards of normal homes.

 

So, what does this mean to the purchaser or seller of a mobile home that is on rented or leased land?  It means that there is rarely financing of more than 50% or 60% of the NADA rated price of the mobile home.  This is not to say that a person can’t get better financing on a used mobile home.  It just represents the case that those who buy mobile homes generally have the type of credit score that would eliminate anything more than this 50% or 60% financing being available to them. People who DON’T normally shop for used mobile homes may well be able to get better financing terms.

 

If there is only 50% financing available, then the buyer will have to come up with the other 50% in cash.  If you’re looking at a typical purchase price of under $40,000 for many mobile homes (less than 15% of used mobile homes sold for more than $40,000 in the 1990’s), then you’re asking the buyer to come up with as much as $20,000 in cash to make the purchase.  Again, this may not be an unusual amount for a down payment for a normal home on its own lot.  However, this is a virtually impossible amount of cash to expect the typical buyer of a mobile home to pay.

 

And, this is where the market develops.  If the typical buyer of a used mobile home has to come up with as much as $20,000 cash to buy the mobile home and if this typical buyer is not likely to have that kind of cash, how does the mobile home get sold? Obviously, this will require the owner to carry back the financing.  The seller will have to carry back the amount that the buyer is short on the down payment.

 

You will find that, on a percentage basis, there is far more carry-back financing in a typical Mobile Home Park than in a comparable normal home neighborhood.

 

 

How to find Mobile Home Notes

 

There are three ways to find these notes.  The majority of the notes can be found by going directly to the Mobile Home Parks.  You can go directly to Mobile Home Parks.  Mobile Home Dealers are an excellent source for ongoing leads to note holders.  Finally, Mobile Home Manufacturers will sometimes have a finance department.  It may be possible to purchase portfolios of notes from them on occasion.  Here are specific strategies for each of these markets:

 

Mobile Home Parks

 

1.) The owner and/or the Mobile Home Park manager will often be carrying these notes. They will have read Lonnie Scruggs’ book “Deals on Wheels”.  In that book Lonnie teaches you to watch for mobile homes that are for sale.  The approach is to offer the owner a very low cash offer.  Then turn around and sell it for a small down payment and carry back the financing, receiving monthly payments.  A Mobile Home Park owner/manager may have a portfolio of these notes.  You approach him and ask if he would like to sell any of them.  Like most note holders he will say that he doesn’t want to sell them.  However, just like anyone else, there may be times when he could use cash more than monthly payments and he may sell a note or two to get the cash.  But, he will have one additional reason for selling a note that other people will not have.  Sometimes he comes across a good buy on a mobile home that will take a chunk of cash!  You should leave your card with him and suggest that he call you whenever that need comes up.  The most important message to leave with him is that there is a way for him to pull cash out of his notes without having to sell them.  (If he calls you later, this will be the lead in for a specific type of partial.)

2.) You should then ask the Mobile Home Park owner/manager if he knows of anyone else in the park that is carrying back a note.  He may also know of someone that sold a mobile home in the park and carried back financing.  He may have the forwarding address of this person.  The Mobile Home Park owner/manager may know of other “Lonnie” dealers.

3.) Ask the Mobile Home Park owner/manager if you can post a flyer in the park’s community or recreational center. 

4.) Ask for permission to have someone go through the park and leave your flyer in the door of all of the homes in the park.  Often, he will not want you to do that because he fears that the flyers may end up all over the streets and make the park look trashy.  This is not a big obstacle for you.  Just ask for the highest number space in the park and make your own data base of addresses.  Print up a tri-fold flyer or create a short letter that states that you are interested in buying notes and mail it to every occupant in the park.  Include in your mailing piece a statement that you can teach people who are trying to get their mobile home sold to “use your money to help potential buyers buy their home”.  This is a set-up for showing them how to do a simultaneous closing.

5.) Drive though the park and write down the phone numbers of any homes that are for sale.  Call these people and tell them that you are an investor in mobile home notes.  Ask them if they would like you to teach them how to “use your money to help potential buyers buy their home”.  This is a set-up for showing them how to do a simultaneous closing.

 

 

 

 

Mobile Home Dealers

 

Visit the Mobile Home dealer and speak to him as you did with the Mobile Home Park owner/manager.  If he has notes, you will find him to be generally much more interested in selling them than would a Mobile Home Park manager/owner.  This is because he doesn’t usually make the majority of his profit from carrying paper, but rather from selling mobile homes.  To do this he NEEDS inventory.  He will usually want the cash from the sale of a note so that he can buy mobile homes to re-sell.

 

1.) A dealer may have notes that he carried back when he sold a used mobile home that he took in trade on a new mobile home.

2.) A dealer may have a short list of “wannabe” buyers.  Some of these buyers have told him that they will purchase a new mobile home as soon as they sell their old mobile home.  They need to sell that used home to get the cash for the down payment on the new mobile home.  So, they cannot take a seller carry-back note because the monthly payment will not get them the cash that they need for the purchase.  Explain to the dealer how a simultaneous closing works and ask him to let you talk with those “wannabes”.  If one of them uses the simultaneous closing to get the money to buy a new mobile home, you will make a believer out of that dealer.  He will likely send you a deal 3 to 4 times each year.

3.) Ask the dealer if he can remember anyone that bought one of his mobile homes and carried back a note on the old home that they sold.

 

Mobile Home Manufacturer

 

With the acquisition of Greentree by Conseco and then Conseco’s subsequent bankruptcy, credit lines for mobile homes have become quite tight.  Warren Buffet is making a bid to buy Conseco, so things may get a bit easier over time.  But, at this time it is tougher than ever to get loans to buy a Mobile Home.  Some manufacturers will have an in-house financing department.  They will regularly need to sell off the older notes in their portfolio in order to generate the capital to loan on the new mobile homes that are currently coming off of the assembly line.

 

Contact the finance department and go their personally to talk with the finance manager.  Tell him that you are working with a group of investors that are interested in buying portfolios of notes.  Ask to be put on the mailing list for companies that they will contact when they want to sell off some notes.  This list is usually large institutions such as insurance companies and finance companies that will buy notes in quantity.   When they need to generate some cash they will sell off dozens of notes at a time.

 

When you receive a notice of sale from them it will include a spreadsheet of all of the notes that they are offering for sale.  It will often require an “all or nothing” offer.  This means that there are a few bad notes in the group.  That’s the only way that they can get rid of the bad notes. 

 

The spreadsheet will give information that will make the quality of the portfolio clear.  It will have columns that include credit scores for the mobile home owner and the payment history on the note as well as the usual information.  We have a considerable advantage on the “all or nothing” type of portfolio.  We can take out the good notes and offer that portfolio to the investors that will bid high for a good note.  Then we can offer the bad notes to the slime-ball lawyers that buy note to repossess the property.