Example
5: Three ‘Staged Funding' of $7,000 for
the first 6 years of a note.
This is a deal done by a friend of one of our
coaches. He was a very experienced note
buyer. His personal portfolio of notes
usually had about 300 notes.
A young man approached him and asked how much he
could pay for his $37,000, 10-year, 2% note (Yes, that’s right – only 2%). The payments were about $325 per month. The Investor offered him about $18,000 for
the note. This was a pretty steep
discount, but it was an unseasoned note and too low of an interest rate. An interest rate this low is not likely to
pay off early and that is where investors make a significant increase in the
yield on a note. Further, there was a
very low down payment and so practically no equity to maintain any level of
safety in the note. The young man told
him that he would get back to him after he thought about it.
The young man called him back about a month later
and said that he had decided to not sell the note. The investor, being a very experienced
investor, first congratulated him on the decision. Then, told him that it was a good note and
that the wise thing to do was to hold on to it for the long term (notice that
he FIRST agreed with the note holder).
He said, since he was a very experienced investor, that if things ever
changed to where the young man needed money that he could always call on the
investor at that time and get a new quote on the note (he “planted a seed” for
the future).
Finally, being a very experienced investor, he inquired
about what the young man intended to do with those little monthly payments (he
begins to probe for information). The
young man replied that his parents had died in a car accident several months
earlier and that he had inherited their home.
He had decided to do something that they had both encouraged him to do
for many years.
He was going to quit his job at the end of the
summer and go to law school. He had a
position lined up where he would manage an apartment complex and get a place to
stay and a very small salary. The law
school was going to set up a payment plan for him and he would need the
payments from the loan to make those payments.
My client congratulated him on that decision. He then said that he could see that the young
man would be on a very tight budget and wondered where he found a law school
with tuition of only $3,900 per year ($325 X 12). The young man told the investor that it would
actually cost about $7,000 per year, but that the school had set up a student
loan of $3,000 per year. He would not
have to pay on those loans until 6 months after he graduated.
The Investor then congratulated him on the way that
he had planned this out and the asked him how comfortable he felt about the
person that had bought the house. He
asked him what would happen if that person was late on a payment or actually
defaulted altogether.
The young man said that he was a little bit uneasy
about that. He mentioned that if that
payment didn’t come in on time, he would be really hurting because he wouldn’t
have a real job for the next three years.
He didn’t think that any bank would give him a loan under those
conditions.
Now the investor, being a very experienced
investor, had some information that he could work with. He told the young man that there might be a
better, safer way to handle these finances.
He suggested that the young man meet with him in a couple of days and go
over a different proposal.
A couple of days later, they met together and he
presented the young man with the following offer. The investor would pay the young man $7,000
at the beginning of the coming school year.
In return, the investor would get the next two years of the monthly
payments. Then, when the second year of
law school began, the investor would give the young man another $7,000 in
return for the 3rd and 4th year’s payments on the
loan. Finally, the investor would pay
another $7,000 in return for the 5th and 6th year’s
payments on the loan.
The young man then said, “Let’s see, each time you
give me $7,000 you’ll receive 2 years of payments or about $7,800. So, you’re getting $800 more than you’re
giving me. That’s about $400 in interest
per year or about 5%. I think that
sounds pretty good.”
The investor then said, “That’s not all that you
get though. Keep in mind that when you
graduate you will not owe those three $3000 loans that you were going to be
getting.” The young man was really
excited about that.
“And,” he added, “You will also get the note back
in 6 years. That will be another four
years of payments that you’ll receive.”
“Wait a minute,” the young man said, “how does that
work?” You said you would pay me $7,000
three times. That’s $21,000. Now you’re telling me that I will get about
$4,000 more for each of the last four years.
That’s another $16,000. I will be
getting $21,000 plus $16,000, or a total of $37,000 for this note. You told me initially that you would pay only
$18,000 for the entire note. You must
have made a mistake, right?”
The investor just answered, “It works for me if it
works for you.” They young man accepted
the offer. The annual yield to him
comes out to be about 18.59%.
Look at that $21,000. Did the investor really give up $21,000? Now, be thinking with the “Time Value of
Money” part of your brain.
No. Maybe he
got $21,000 from his perspective, but the investor did not give $21,000. First, he gave the young man $7,000. By the time that he gave the second $7,000 it
was more than one year later. What do
you suppose was happening to this $14,000 that was not yet in the possession of
the new law student? Well, it certainly
was not under the investor’s mattress - or even in his savings account. In fact, the investor had made more than
$1000 on that money before he gave out the second $7,000 and more than $2,000
on the final pay out of $7,000 before it was paid.
So, that $21,000 only cost the investor less than
$18,000. To the law student, using
simple cash on cash figuring, he was giving up a total of about $23,400 in return
for $21,000 - or, $2,400 in interest over 6 years. To him, that was about $400 per year interest
in return for $21,000.
But, that was not the end of this deal. Guess what happened 6 years later when the
young man was due to get the note back.
The investor called up the note seller to inform him that he would begin
receiving those payments starting the next month.
The young man had now graduated from law school and
had been in his new job for three years.
He said that the timing was just perfect. He said that he could really use those
payments now. The investor, being very
experienced, asked the young man what he intended to do with those payments. He then found out that the young man had
recently gotten married and they were looking at homes to buy. The home that they both really wanted was
just a bit more expensive then they felt comfortable with. The payments were just a bit too steep. But, now with these payments, he would feel a
lot more comfortable with taking on that obligation.
The investor, being very experienced, congratulated
him on the decision to buy that home.
Then he asked him what he would do after four years when the note would
be paid up. The young man said that
maybe he would have a pay raise by then to help make up the difference.
The investor then suggested that there might be a
better way to handle these bigger payments.
“In fact”, he said, “I can show you how to have lower payments for as
long as you live in the house, not for just the next four years”. He then showed him how he could sell the last
4 years of that loan for a lump sum of $13,000.
“Then,” he said, “you can dramatically increase the amount of your down
payment. This will make those monthly
payments lower for as long as you live there – not just for the next 4
years.” The young man said, “Great, how
soon can I get that money?”
What you want to be aware of in this last offer is,
first, the investor was prepared in advance of the call to make this
offer. He just didn’t yet know what the
need would be for the offer and he held off making the offer until he found the
need.
Second, having found out the need, he did take a
moment to figure out exactly how much the payments would be decreased after the
additional $13,000 was put down. But, he
did not present those figures to the note holder, although he would have if the
subject had come up. He kept it as
simple as possible.
Third, he had alternate offers to make – just in
case. He was ready to offer more for the
note if it was necessary.
Fourth, he could have offered more because it was
now well seasoned. Also, since the
economy had changed and interest rates were somewhat lower, he could look at it
with a lower yield and still be comfortable with his purchase.
Who got the best part of this deal?
The investor got a consistent 18.59% on this
note. This was a good deal for him in
the beginning because he was into it for only $7,000 at a time. If the note had proved to be a poor paying
note, he just wouldn’t have bought the additional partials. The young man got a law degree, with no
worries about having to collect payments.
He also did not have any student loans to pay back. He also got a home with lower payments for as
long as he lives there. You be the
judge.