In Reply to: RWS stuff...Need HELP...Look inside... posted by Cody Dotter on August 11, 2000 at 22:49:04:
Cody,I have used .22 scopes on my own 54 with no broken internals, but you will have to adjust the tension up on the sledge detent ball and spring,for which there is an adjustment screw accessed by removing the stock bolt next to trigger guard and inserting a 3 mm hex key, and winding screw inwards about half a turn at a time.The procedure is to mount your scope and with rifle unloaded,push the action forward with your thumb until the ball engages sledge detent,then give the rifle a quick jolt forward so as to release it from the detent and note the ease in which it flies back.This will mimic the shooting motion of the action plus scope weight.Now the idea is to apply just enough tension on ball and spring so that it really takes quite a hard sharp jolt to release the action and also acts as a brake.Once you have it close enough,replace stock bolt and fine tune it on the range.I like to have mine set so I actually feel a hint of recoil and the action only slides about 9 mm instead of bottoming out.Dont overset the tension spring or it will become coil bound and lock the system up.Also sledge or no sledge,if you use tight or loose ammo in these sidelevers you will shake the gun or scope to bits.CPs or Trophys are my favourites,or at least a good place to start.Good Luck.
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In Reply to: An update for everyone posted by Marty Silver Streak on August 11, 2000 at 22:02:16:
I wish her well!
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In Reply to: I bet it's legal for you to shoot in your area - here's why.... posted by JeffB on August 11, 2000 at 12:24:18:
jeff somtime people start with empty threats and end with fact..dont assume its legal yet..as most tower\citys\countys have safety laws and most would have shooting in city limit laws ..i think curt should look it up and if legal in any way..he should copy it down and in will be ammo next time
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I'm looking for any info on the RWS Diana Model 65. Any info on it would be helpful.
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In Reply to: Re: Warning to Canadians! Airguns are now " weapons " under the criminal code! posted by Happy Gardener on August 12, 2000 at 02:28:40:
The police were actually quite polite when returning my guns and apologized for the hassle. I have dealt with other police and respect the professionalism or our Royal Canadian Mounted Police.
The officer also told me what I already knew; brainless urbanite politicians pass all these stupid laws and leave it to the common street cop to enforce. The cop has to deal with the bs and the politician will get a pension and likely re-elected supposing he is a good compassionate liberal.
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In Reply to: Re: Career go for the power go " Big Bore 44 " posted by AIRPOWER on August 11, 2000 at 11:15:07:
I own 4 Careers, 1 MIT, 1 Ars Magnum 6, Saver 505 and the big bore 909 and over 300 other air rifles and pistol dating back to the 1800's. The 909 is the the RIFLE! Picked up a few lead balls from B & B Sportsman Supply(bbsportsman.com) under muzzleloading, Buffalo Balls, Hornaday Balls. and Speer Balls, in the 142gr 454dia.(fits the bore better and more accurate) at 868fps makes tooth picks out of 2X4's at 50yds!
62nd S & S CO.(5th ARMY) "ASK WE DO"
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In Reply to: Re:Forgetaboutit posted by Happy Gardener on August 12, 2000 at 01:39:39:
When you say,"You know it will ruin a scope",what exactly do you mean?I don't really understand any of the rest of your reply as well.How does your reply answer any part of my question?My motive behind asking is pure curiosity with zero hidden agenda. jrw
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In Reply to: Dogs in Rural Country posted by MarkD on August 11, 2000 at 19:59:22:
I am 47 and have lived on a farm almost my whole life. I have personally seen alot of death caused to farm livestock by "pets." It is amazing how many sheep, a couple of nice "pets" can destroy in an "outing." I have watched in horror as the neighbor's German Shepards hamstrung calves and then be back home before I could return with my shotgun. For many years I raised race horses and have seen the same thing with foals. Of course, the goats didn't stand a chance.
I have been a vegetarian since 1971 because I do not like to kill anything and I was raised as a hunter. It was my favorite thing to do as a young man. Yet somewhere along the line, I bonded with the animals that I hunted and decided that I'd rather shoot inert objects. Yet sometimes, I do eliminate varmints. I have hesitated in doing that to other's pets and have had it normally end up in those "pets" destroying yet again someone else's beloved pets.
My father was not bothered by my conscience. For him it was simple. Dogs on the farm meant some of our animals would be killed. So he killed the dogs first as he did with all predators.
I did not see or read Russ's post and so don't know what that was about other than what i can pick up in this thread. Random senseless acts of violence by humans are even worse than those caused by dogs. Sad to say, I have seen those as well. My heart goes out to anyone who has had to suffer from that.
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In Reply to: LG100 posted by JD@CT on August 11, 2000 at 23:18:49:
why do you say it seems like an FT gun? it is very new..so ive seen no specs on it..the trend to metal space gun looks, in 10m. has been getting stronger.. but its not taken hold yet..cool looking gun though..maybe allen Z will tweak one some day
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In Reply to: Recoilless logic? posted by JRW on August 12, 2000 at 01:06:52:
JRW, if you ever see a FWB recoiless spring gun work youll see why. they work by letting the action move back as the spring & air chamber mover forward "actin re-action" you doing feel a thing..but a scope gets slammed because it sits ontop of the action as its moved either forward or back if the movement is forward the action can blow a scope apart
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In Reply to: Need help: what co2 pistol to buy? posted by TK on August 11, 2000 at 15:35:44:
I HAD a C40 and its ok,but I got a Walther's newest pistol the cp 99 and it was worth the money and wait!!!It's just like a real p-99!Even the clip to put the co2 in.I payed 129.00 and you might find it cheaper on the net.Lets put it this way a State highway trooper bought 3 of them for practice.So he do not have that high cost to pay for 9MM bullets.The other 2 guns he bought for his friends.
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In Reply to: Re: Warning to Canadians! Airguns are now " weapons " under the criminal code! posted by Uncle Gary on August 12, 2000 at 02:06:31:
The "black snow" crowd turned in the heretic. There are a few good lessons here. Do not hunt or shoot in public areas during hours when the typical person is there. Vehicles are what every set of jackboots look for. Use alternate transportation in and out. Stick to private land and avoid treehuggers. It is a shame that sportsman are considered criminal scum. The universal nirvana of law enforcement is to go after someone with assets. You have to appear to be a poor person as far as the law is concerned. Take the lessons to heart and a whole new set of opportunities open up for you.
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In Reply to: Re: Warning to Canadians! Airguns are now " weapons " under the criminal code! posted by Uncle Gary on August 12, 2000 at 02:06:31:
Had to cap to get across the importance of joining
the NRA, even if you do not own "firearms".
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In Reply to: I think you guys are missing the obvious. What other option could there possibly for a Texas governor but a... posted by Tir on August 12, 2000 at 00:51:40:
Ha-Ha! I missed that one! Yes, make it a TX-200!
Cheers!
Unc
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In Reply to: Interesting questions... posted by John Sa. on August 11, 2000 at 23:31:50:
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In Reply to: Re:Forgetaboutit posted by Happy Gardener on August 12, 2000 at 01:39:39:
Hap's got it right, forget it! The shooter doesn't FEEL any recoil, because the whole action is in motion. But the scope rides atop the action, and is thus subjected to the brutal back and forth wrenching of the spring, which on the 54 is stout indeed! Don't believe it? No problem, just put a cheap scope on a 54 and see how long it lasts; my guess is about 20 rounds. Cheers!
Unc
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In Reply to: Warning to Canadians! Airguns are now "weapons " under the criminal code! posted by Fearon Steele on August 12, 2000 at 01:47:18:
Welcome to the real world, Fearon! I'm sorry this had to happen to you, you're a decent guy and don't deserve it. Be forewarned, my friends, the Police State is just around the corner! And it's not just Canada either, unless I miss my guess the "One World" Gov't is just around the corner. As the Good Lord said, "Watch and wait"! Regards,
Unc
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In Reply to: Recoilless logic? posted by JRW on August 12, 2000 at 01:06:52:
The top of the rifle (receiver, barrel, scope mounted on top of receiver, etc.) slides back on a rail. The whole shebang. Copied from FWB.
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In Reply to: Does anyone know of a .177 pellet that is heavier than 11grains? posted by CCR fan. on August 11, 2000 at 21:43:32:
The Beeman Silver Arrow in .177 was my favorite pellet for my .177 Beeman RX-1 years ago. It quieted the report quite a bit, compared to the stinging crack from a 8 grain pellet. According to Golden Toller Guns, it weighs in at 11.5 grain.
Tom Jue/ca/usa
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In Reply to: Re: Site of Swartz creek Mi. airgun show? posted by Mike Pearson on August 12, 2000 at 00:01:47:
Mike is right, but you are already in Swartz Creek once you get on Miller. Exit Miller Road and then turn right. The first intersection you cross will be Elms Road. Continue on through on Miller for about maybe 1/2 mile until you see the Mesonic Temple on the south(left) side of the road. If you get to Morrish Road, you have travelled to far. Hope this helps you guys,
Paul in MI
PS: I will try to wear my white Paul Component Engineering tee shirt there; if you see me, say hello
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In Reply to: You'll probably have to go higher... posted by John Sa. on August 11, 2000 at 23:43:54:
There is a bare minimum you have to spend for decent stuff and anything less is just a waste of money. I would get a Benjamin/Sheridan pistol in .177 cal. It has good power and good quality. More important is that you will not be buying another pistol right away because the one you paid $40 is not up to snuff.
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I was walking in the woods with my Aeron B4 Chameleon .22 cal doing nothing wrong, I guess some joggers saw me and reported me to the RCMP because they thought I had a handgun.
So on my way home an undercover vehicle pulled up to me and asked what I had in my pocket. I told them I had an airpistol and the officer in shotgun actually jumped out and removed his automatic pistol from his holster!
They confiscated my Chameleon and Webley Tempest for eight days while they verrified that they were not considered restricted weapons in Canada.
He let me have my pistols back but told me I could have been charged with carrying a concealed weapon! I asked him how this was so seeing as how they're not technically firearms and he said under the 2000 criminal code anything that shoots a projectile from a rifled barrel is considered a "weapon". Also, apparently it is illegal to carry an airpistol in your pocket yet legal to carry it in a pistol case (go figure).
I live in a remote mountain town of 21,000. I'd hate to be an airgunner in Toronto or Montreal! Be warned!
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I Have a crossman 66 powermaster that is in need of serious repair. The seals do not hold air any longer. Can anyone direct me to a quality repair facility? Can modifications be performed to make this gun shoot any hotter?
Thank you, Sep
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In Reply to: Recoilless logic? posted by JRW on August 12, 2000 at 01:06:52:
You know it will ruin a scope. Why not use iron sights or a rear peep and call it a day. The 54 is a nice gun to shoot vermin out the patio door with. That is what it excells at. For other purposes it is somewhat less than fair.
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In Reply to: Re: Site of Swartz creek Mi. airgun show? posted by Mike Pearson on August 12, 2000 at 00:01:47:
i am also going to the show, is there something all
of us "'net airgunners" could do to recognize
each other? i don't contribute much, but read the
forum every night and would like to meet ya'll!
i am new to this and hope to find a f.t. group!
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In Reply to: R9 scope posted by Pepi on August 11, 2000 at 22:36:59:
i bought an r9 with a bushnell sportview 4x32,
and MY r9 destroyed it within 750 rounds......
supposedly this is the exception, but i would go
with the bushnell banner, at least. that is what
i have on order....
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Are there any engineers/physical science majors out there familiar with the design of the RWS 54?I keep reading how it is recoilless to the shooter and not the scope.I have yet to read however, anything which truly explains how this can be.I would like to understand how it is that a device which absorbs energy of recoil to the shooter fails to diminish this same energy to the scope.Insofar as it seems illogical,it may nevertheless be true.How many substantiated accounts are out there of scopes being ruined from this phenomenon?The student is ready, so where is the teacher?
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In Reply to: Dogs in Rural Country posted by MarkD on August 11, 2000 at 19:59:22:
I once lived in a very rural area. Feral dogs form packs there and have killed three young children that I know of. They revert to natural habits and form packs. Pet dogs on the loose will do the same thing. You are 100% correct about not letting your pet dog run loose. There is not room here to list all the reasons why you should not let your dog run loose.
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In Reply to: Commemorative Air Rifle for " W " , (if he wins) posted by chasm on August 11, 2000 at 19:58:04:
"TX" 200? lol
Tim
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In Reply to: R9 scope posted by Pepi on August 11, 2000 at 22:36:59:
How much money do you want to spend?
-Mark
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Does anyone have any experience with this gun? Is it any good? Accurate? Can anyone give me their oppinions of this guN?
Thanx!
J
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In Reply to: RWS 34 trouble, advice please posted by Dennis on August 11, 2000 at 22:44:48:
After the gun is fixed get a rear peep sight and forget about a scope on the 34. To make a scope system work on my 34 I had to go to extremes. A special airgun scope, a special mount, two scope stops and all screws put in with loctite. It works well but when you add the sling I have more tied up in the scope and sling than the gun.
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Could you please send me your e-mail address.
I have a ? about a SS I just bought and It
seems you have a wide range of knowlegde regarding
airguns.Thank you. First time poster so please
excuse the messups if any.
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In Reply to: What it is............... posted by Gary on August 09, 2000 at 18:05:19:
Gary,
If this is what you were looking for,you may be out of luck...Mark has not posted any scores
since Feb....Why?..Don't know. He has not responded to E-Mail...As I recall,this shoot was only conducted
Sept. thru June.
Asked on the forum whether anyone knew what Mark Lisowski was up to,but no one responded-though
several regulars have been up to his place in Agawam,Mass.
If you find another postal,[rifle],let us know.
You are aware of the POS shoots..rifle and pistol ..Correct?
GH
In Reply to: Alamo defense simplified........ posted by Derrin on August 12, 2000 at 00:15:14:
Derrin,
Sounds like you and I both spend some thought as to how things at the Alamo might have turned out differently. My fantasy involves my being there with one foot locker full of what ever stuff I choose. First thought is some CS gas, but I usually limit my thoughts to hardware that I already possess. That usually involves thinking about my scoped high power rifles. BTW, do you think anyone knows what CS gas is all about? I think Charles Q. may have freaked out when I described how I might have defended the Alamo. Anyway, nice to get your response.
chasm
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In Reply to: looking for good pcp. any sugg. r welcome... posted by pritam on August 12, 2000 at 00:08:31:
Although I'm not sure of it's cost, (I think it's more than $600), my "dream" gun would be a super 12.
-good luck-
john from NY
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In Reply to: Interesting questions... posted by John Sa. on August 11, 2000 at 23:31:50:
John: Dogs are native to North America, besides Llamas, and pigs they too were the only domesticatble animals available in the western hemishere. They were used as a food source and as beasts of burden. It doesn't change the issue though; I do understand your point.
The "thats way we moved to the country" mentality is all too common.
regards - Steve B. (semi rural Western Oregon)
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In Reply to: Re: OTC Spray Can Grease? for main spring...flamable... posted by RBest on August 11, 2000 at 22:58:50:
Could you please send me your e-mail address.
I have a ? about my SS I just bought and you seem
to have alot of knowledge regarding airguns.
Thank you very much.
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In Reply to: Re: Visiting the Alamo Tomorrow posted by Matt Donovan on August 12, 2000 at 00:09:45:
Matt,
I'll check it out.
chasm
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In Reply to: Visiting the Alamo Tomorrow posted by chasm on August 12, 2000 at 00:01:11:
Chasm , I go to the Alamo every year while relaxing in San Antonio. I never stand in that building without feeling extreme pride and respect for those who believed so much in freedom. It truly humbles a person. By the way , if only one person had a Supertwelve , the Mexican army would have been decimated. Or if the Americans had a Career , the Mexican army could have laughed itself to death due to UGLINESS.
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In Reply to: Re: RWS stuff...Need HELP...Look inside... posted by Steve B. on August 11, 2000 at 23:04:20:
try Burris Signature rimfire mounts [no stop pins] w/eccentric inserts (-/+ .020) with recoil stop blocks [RWS,B-Square or Beeman].
The plastic inserts provide some shock vibration isolation.
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In Reply to: Visiting the Alamo Tomorrow posted by chasm on August 12, 2000 at 00:01:11:
Chasm,
You'll notice most of the dead guys (not counting Mexicans) were from NY and PA.
Matt
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Recently I read where the CRX bolt might have loctite around it causing it to be difficult to cock. How do you check for this? How do you remove the bolt? Thanks.
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hi.....
since long time i m not able to decide which pcp i should buy.....also which cal. { .22, .25, or big bore}
my need for gun is to put down jecks at 50-60 yds. also want quick second shot if i miss first one.....
my budget allows max. 600 $ of gun and all related acc.
plz find free to poll a gun
any comments suggetions r welcome
pritam
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The article that is the title of this message has been posted to my web page. I think that after reading it that you will have a
whole new outlook and a new prime airgun target. Many changes to the site since my last post here so please check it out and
let me know what you think.
Thanks
Steve
In Reply to: Site of Swartz creek Mi. airgun show? posted by Mike G on August 11, 2000 at 21:22:46:
Mike, I'm taking 75N to 69W to exit 129 (Miller Rd). Turn right on Miller. There's a McDonald's on the right (on Miller) and a Massonic Temple on the left (that's where the show is). If you went to Schwartz Creek, you went too far! See you at the show! --- Mr.P
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Fellow Airgunners,
Every now and then, I get the chance to renew my passion for self-determination by means of a visit to the Alamo in San Antonio, Texas. I've been making this sojurn periodically since I was about eight or nine years old (50 years +/-). Tell you what, when you are inside this shrine, you really feel the predicament of the defenders. Many of the defenders were from parts of the country east of here. Many of ya'll should rightfully feel very proud. I often try to fantasize how I would have prevented the massacre if I had been there, but my speculation is just that , speculation. I think I may have scared off C.Q. with my speculations. Anyhow, I doubt that there were any air rifles involved in this battle, but I'll bet that air rifles were known to the defenders. MHO
chasm
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In Reply to: Re: I back you Dave posted by wved on August 11, 2000 at 21:40:23:
Ed, I didn't call the .177 the best all-around caliber. I said that many airgun supply businesses did for decades (Air Rifle Headquarters and Beeman the two most prominent). Capstick (one of the all-time great writers IMO) got his info from Beeman's --- even said so in his book 'Death In the Dark Places (I could be wrong about the title but I do have the book). The .177's rule the paper targets, tin cans, FT and certain types of hunting (sparrows, starlings and believe it or not some of the bigger stuff but I'm not going to start up THAT hornet's nest --at least not right now lol!). My own favorite hunting calibers are the .20 and the .25. Nothing wrong with the .22 for a one gun man looking for a VERY pragmatic choice but Ed, I have found that there are enough pellets around in these two calibers (and people who will gladly sell them to me) that I don't have to be overly pragmatic. I love the extreme explosiveness of the .20 Crow Mag pellet out of a gun doing 17+ ft.lbs.. I love the penetration of Crosman domes past 60 yards and the fact that they still create a large enough wound channel for pigeons and crows. These pellets at the farther ranges buck wind better than .22 at similar weights, penetrate better and IMO are the best way out there.
I love the .25 for it's brute stopping power in the woods where I do so much of my hunting. I particularly like hunting the early season and the .25 is ideal for woods squirrels where you want to put the animal down for keeps. This caliber does that better than anything else smaller. The star of this kind of hunting is again the Crow Magnum pellet and nothing else matches it (although the .20 Crow Mag pellet from what I've seen in the field actually encroaches on .25 NON-expanding pellet territory which is saying something)! Thanks for the reply Ed! ---- Mr.P
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Does anyone have any info on this gun? Is it any good? Accurate? I like the pellet / clip idea. Any comparable guns? Thanx!
J
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In Reply to: RWS 34 trouble, advice please posted by Dennis on August 11, 2000 at 22:44:48:
Dennis,
The damage you described indicate things have been loose for a long time. I'd get allen screws at he hardware store to replace those in the forearm. Use brass flat washers (you might have to cut down the O.D.) and locktite (blue) the threads. If the threads in the front mounting bracket are bad, get a new bracket or tap larger diameter threads. Get a new screw for the front of the trigger guard, grease it and put the stock back on with a little epoxy in the wollowed out hole in the stock (grease everything you don't want it to stick to). I learned this the hard way and my 34 has eaten 3 scopes also. I now have a Crosman peep sight on it (mounting it is another story)and don't think I'll go back to a scope. My 34 seems to shoot just as smooth (aftet about 10000 shots) as my old HW35 but 200 ft/sec faster. I may be considered a bottom feeder for this but, I like the 34 better. Call Tim at RWS in NJ, they've been great on warantee repairs on mine even though I now know that some of the problems were caused by me (chamber lube, heavy pellets, cleaning pellets, etc. - I did not know)
Matt
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In Reply to: Derrin, Derrin, Derrin, let me ask you... posted by DaveG on August 11, 2000 at 15:12:47:
Trigger is great , Balance is great , stock is great, is quieter, is as or more accurate, Looks great, can be re-filled in the field via extra bottles. Sure a Ford will get you there, but drive it in a Ferrari. You WILL be really living then. PLEASE remember I OWN A CAREER. For $450 it is awesome!!!!!!! BUT CAN NOT, NOT , NOT compare to a Super twelve, Sorry.
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In Reply to: Looking for my first gun... posted by byrd on August 11, 2000 at 12:48:56:
The Crosman 1377 or 1322 is a decent choice. I think that you are going to have to spend at least $40 and more like $50 to get something you'll be happy with.
Remember: The bitterness of low quality lingers long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten.
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In Reply to: An update for everyone posted by Marty Silver Streak on August 11, 2000 at 22:02:16:
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In Reply to: Re: Crosman 167 posted by Driskill on August 11, 2000 at 21:12:50:
Another issue with Crosmans of that era in .177 is that because the loading 'trough' is sized for .22, loading and closing the bolt in small-cal versions can be pretty fiddly - the pellet tends to hang up heading into the breech.
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In Reply to: Interesting questions... posted by John Sa. on August 11, 2000 at 23:31:50:
When I got it back up and running, I couldn't find the post and assumed it had been lost in the crash. So, I fired off a summarized version from memory.
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In Reply to: Dogs in Rural Country posted by MarkD on August 11, 2000 at 19:59:22:
We shoot starlings because they are not native to the Americas and because they are destructive to the ecosystem.
Are 'feral' or stray dogs native to the Americas? What is their impact on the ecosystem?
How many of you would have a problem destroying a coyote which was raiding the chicken coop? (Now there's a conundrum--killing an animal to prevent it from killing and eating another animal that you intend to kill and eat yourself.)
If a stray dog raids the chicken coop, should it be treated differently than the coyote? Before you answer, remember that the coyote is native to America and a useful and necessary part of the ecosystem.
For those of you who don't agree with hunting, here are a couple of questions for you. How is shooting a starling different from having someone kill a chicken for you to eat? Which animal enjoyed a fuller life?
You know, in all of this there are two real tragedies. The pets that are allowed to escape or roam free, suffer for the transgressions of their owners. The person who rationally arrives at the solution to protect his property and his little part of the ecosystem is perceived as the problem.
If you got to this point and think that I am defending the wanton destruction of domestic or wild animals or any kind of inhumane treatment of animals, you nead to reread the post. Before you fire off an emotional response, think about what I have written and try to respond rationally.
Just in case you're wondering, I live with a large white dog, who is restricted to a fenced yard, and a fluffy cat who resides exclusively in the house. Over the years I have enjoyed as pets, many different types of animals, some of which the vast majority of you wouldn't even consider having in your house. I'm considered (and rightfully so) by all that know me to be an animal lover.
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In Reply to: Re: Commemorative Air Rifle for " W " , (if he wins) posted by chasm on August 11, 2000 at 22:40:01:
;-)
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In Reply to: It seems like the world posted by TimH on August 11, 2000 at 21:39:08:
Exactly right Tim, it's very simple, a large portion of the population has gone completely mad, that's the only thing that can explain it! The only thing that gives me a little feeling of security is that I've taught my wife and family how to defend themselves and shoot if necessary.
I wish it wasn't that way, but it is. Regards,
Unc
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In Reply to: Fun Supply update posted by James Kitching on August 10, 2000 at 20:57:51:
If you want to backup...just by a CD-R for $80.00......and be done with it.
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In Reply to: Re: Dogs in Rural Country posted by Tir on August 11, 2000 at 21:44:06:
And it's very, very sad!
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Anyone have info on the Steyr LG100???? This rifle seems to be an FT.....Talk 2 me!!!
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In Reply to: Russ what about in a .177 RX-1 gas-ram???? (nt) posted by TimH on August 11, 2000 at 23:10:51:
That might work ! But recoil may get 'funny' and you'll have a much slower travel time down the bore. Follow thru will be an absolute must. RB
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In Reply to: The disneyization of America. posted by John Sa. on August 11, 2000 at 22:56:57:
John,
Well put.
chasn
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In Reply to: An update for everyone posted by Marty Silver Streak on August 11, 2000 at 22:02:16:
Great news Marty! Tom B.B. was asking about your mother tonight, I'll let him know everythings okay. BIG CHEERS!
Unc
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In Reply to: RWS 34 trouble, advice please posted by Dennis on August 11, 2000 at 22:44:48:
Dennis: that damage sounds like the screws were loose for some time. This would also explain scope damage and inaccuracy. The screws must be kept snugged all the time (NOT torqued to death). If he can obtain the screws from RWS or Airgun Express, I strongly recommend a screw fixative like Vibratite or Loctite 222. As it is under warranty, call Airgun Express to see if they can do anything with it. Regards, Russ Best
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In Reply to: RWS 34 trouble, advice please posted by Dennis on August 11, 2000 at 22:44:48:
The ONLY thing I've found on a 34 or 36 that will keep the screws from loosening up is a good bit of blue Loktite on the threads! Hate to say it, but your son paid way too much for his 34, he probably could have found a new one for about $180-$200 if he'd shopped around a bit. As for the egg-shaped holes in the stock, some good wood filler will fix that: just wrap the screw threads with tape and put them back in the holes, then fill around it and let it cure for a couple of days. Then take the screws out, put the action in the stock, then put the screws back in and secure them with blue Loktite. Regards,
Unc
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In Reply to: Re: Does anyone know of a .177 pellet that is heavier than 11grains? posted by RBest on August 11, 2000 at 22:44:40:
nt
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In Reply to: RWS 34 trouble, advice please posted by Dennis on August 11, 2000 at 22:44:48:
Dennis: I'd send the gun in under warranty, you get to pay shipping though. I don't shoot mine with a scope and yes, mine will back the front stock screws out. These screws need to be checked often, I haven't tried locktite yet since I don't shoot the gun that often. Sad but true, the price of a GOOD airgun scope can exceed the cost of the airgun. Good luck
HTH - Steve B.
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In Reply to: Re: RWS stuff...Need HELP...Look inside... posted by Uncle Gary on August 11, 2000 at 23:03:30:
The action (and scope) take the full recoil of the shot. None of that recoil is shared by the stocks mass, which makes it even worse on scopes than a 48/52. RB
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In Reply to: Re: Dogs in Rural Country posted by Codyb Dotter on August 11, 2000 at 21:56:01:
That dog had a lisence tag and everthing! After they
found the dog they fixed the cut. And someone bought
the dog. And the person that bought the dog abused
the dog! Poor dog.
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In Reply to: RWS stuff...Need HELP...Look inside... posted by Cody Dotter on August 11, 2000 at 22:49:04:
Cody: What recoiless means is you don't feel the recoil. The recoil is hidden or supressed from the shooters viewpoint by the internal buffer springs in the stock. I don't have one but I betcha they're real scope killers. Page Vern...
HTH - Steve B.
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In Reply to: RWS stuff...Need HELP...Look inside... posted by Cody Dotter on August 11, 2000 at 22:49:04:
Sorry, the 54 is one of the worst "shakers and breakers"! When they say it's recoilless, what they mean is felt recoil to the shooter. Try it if you wish, but the result will be a broken scope!
Cheers!
Unc
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In Reply to: RWS 34 trouble, advice please posted by Dennis on August 11, 2000 at 22:44:48:
Dennis,
I bought a 34 about a year ago as a mother-in-law airgun. Not to shoot her with, mind you, but to leave at her home to make visits there more palleteable (sp.?). Like your son, I paid far more for the 34 than I needed too. And also like your son, my 34 proceeded to destroy a scope and loosen all of its screws. I brought the 34 home recently and will probably order a Swift for it as I think that a 34 is one violent re-coiling air rifle. MHO
chasm
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In Reply to: OTC Spray Can Grease? for main spring...flamable... posted by TJ on August 11, 2000 at 22:51:35:
TJ: the best stuff is JM's Velocity tar. One secret to avoid power loss is to go easy with the lube. It should be applied ONLY to the outside of the spring (not fully around the coils- inside and out). RB
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In Reply to: Dogs in Rural Country posted by MarkD on August 11, 2000 at 19:59:22:
It's interesting that we have no difficulty justifying the killing of starlings based upon the fact that they are not native to this country and have a negative impact on the ecosystem.
I would submit that dogs that are abandoned or allowed to run wild fit into exactly the same category. They are certainly not native, and there is no question as to the problems that they cause both to the ecosystem and to livestock.
So what's the difference? Some would tell you that there isn't one. Believe it or not, with a little surfing, you could come up with a website which praises the merits of starlings as pets. I'm sure that the makers of the site would react to the elimination of starlings in much the same way most people would react to the elimination of 'feral'or stray dogs.
In fact, the difference is not objective and can not be supported rationally. The difference is the emotional attachment most people feel toward dogs.
America in general has become distanced from reality in their dealings with animals. The same person who argues passionately against the elimination of destructive ecological disasters has no difficult eating chicken for dinner. I suggest that the death of one bird (chicken) for someone's culinary pleasure is indistinguishable from the death of another bird (starling) for the pleasure of the hunt.
In days past things were simpler. If you wanted to eat chicken, you had to kill a chicken. You couldn't lie to yourself that you were different from the person who went out with a gun and shot birds, because you knew you weren't. If you saw an animal which you knew was going to be destructive to livestock or to the local ecosystem (although that's not the term that would have been used), you destroyed or controlled it in the interests of livestock owners and those who depended upon and enjoyed the ecosystem. You didn't try to rationalize why it was right to kill a coyote which was destroying your chickens (boy, there's a real puzzler--kill one animal to protect another which you intend to kill yourself)and not right to kill a stray dog which was doing the same thing because they were both given the same consideration and, I might add dealt with in exactly the same manner.
Who would write such a post you ask? Certainly a person like this must be a hater of animals.
I am, in fact, an animal lover. I have both a dog (who lives in a fenced backyard) and a cat (who lives in the house exclusively)and have, over the years enjoyed as pets many animals which most of you would never consider as such.
Here's the point. If you don't control your animals you are creating a public nuisance, damaging the ecosystem, and doing the animals themselves a great disservice. The truly unfortunate thing about stray pets is that the pet is the one that suffers when the owner is the one who deserves punishment. The other unfortunate thing is that the person who rationally arrives at the 'solution' to his problem with stray dogs is often focused upon as a part of the problem, when, in reality, the problem starts with the pet owner.
Before you respond emotionally to this rather unemotional post, think about it awhile and try to respond rationally instead.
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In Reply to: I too feel the way you.. posted by Mark on August 11, 2000 at 21:19:18:
Mark: I fully understand you're perspective, and in fact-- my town had a serious wild dog problem some years back. They were wandering in packs, with a pack mentality, and were clearly dangerous. The town organized a hunting group, run by the police dept., and they went out and got nearly twenty in one weekend. We haven't had any problems since. They also had to identify each feral dog prior to shooting it. As these dogs had caused havoc for a while, the authorities and hunters already knew what the dogs in the pack looked like- as individuals, so there would be no mistakes. Regards, Russ
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In Reply to: R9 scope posted by Pepi on August 11, 2000 at 22:36:59:
I have a R-9 in .20. I have a 4 X 12 Bushnell Trophy on mine. I think its a great scope. I used
Beeman's medium two piece rings on mine. It took
very little adjustment to sight it in.I had to put 12 clicks of windage and 16 clicks of elevation to get it sighted in. It is dead on at 25 yards. I've had my rifle for about 2 weeks and I really like it.I got my 1st squirrel with mine this morning. I hope you enjoy yours.
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After applying some black moly auto brake grease
to a springer coil, the gun lost about 30fps but
it is quieter. does any one reccomend a spray on grease
and where can it be purchased. I think RBest had
posted a link a few months ago. I have a spray can
of silicone in the garage but it's marked flamable.
Though mabey once the solvent has evaporated the remainding
silicone is not flamable?
Is there any product over the counter available?
Thanks
TJ
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In Reply to: Help fixing my trigger posted by Andrew on August 11, 2000 at 22:23:49:
Andrew: I don't know if it will solve your problem but inside of every Bic lighter is a small spring for the flint. They're about 1 1/4 long and smaller OD than a ball point pin spring. For what it's worth...good luck.
HTH - Steve B.
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Okay. Y'know how everyone says don't use rifle scopes
on air guns. Well the RWS Model 54 Air King is recoil
less. So would it matter if I used a .22 scope on
the gun? The recoil shouldn't shake the scope to
pieces. (I think.) Any help will be helpful.
P.S.: I want to use a .22 scope because I'm on a
tight budget. And I don't want to spent more money
on a scope speacially made for airguns. I all
ready have a .22 scope. And it was free.
<:-@
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My adult son purchased an RWS 34N late in 1998. Has run 1000 to 1500 rounds through it since. Really likes it, but has gone through three scopes including the last one, which was expensive, and none would hold. He went back to shooting w/iron sights, and the gun was still very accurate. Lately he noticed declining accuracy and decided to pull the wood off the gun. He found the two main screws located on the underside of the gun beneath the rear sight had damaged threads; the yoke or bracket they threaded into had damaged threads and the wood around the screws was noticably egg-shaped, he thinks from recoil. The main trigger guard screw is also showing the the threads are being pounded (beat down looking). So now he does not know what to do with the rifle. He paid $280 for it at a reputible gun store and I understand the rifle has a lifetime warrenty, but....if he gets it repaired is this just going to continue?? BTW, the screws were tight and he had never "messed" with the rifle since new. What would one of you folks do now?? This is a young adult just getting seriously interested in airguns, and I hate to see it spoiled. Thanks, Dennis dnthomp@gte.net
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In Reply to: Does anyone know of a .177 pellet that is heavier than 11grains? posted by CCR fan. on August 11, 2000 at 21:43:32:
The Koreans (Dae Sung?) make one around 14 grains. I hope it's not going in a spring gun! RB
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In Reply to: Help fixing my trigger posted by Andrew on August 11, 2000 at 22:23:49:
Best to contact Beeman. RB
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In Reply to: Commemorative Air Rifle for " W " , (if he wins) posted by chasm on August 11, 2000 at 19:58:04:
Thinking about one of the green commerative HW's. But maybe an LD modified 600 pistol might be easier to have customized for "W" providing that the builders are fans. Any suggestions?
chasm
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What is a good scope and rings for a beeman R9?
Also, would a red dot be good on a R9?
I have bifocals and have a hard time using iron sights.
Thanks
Pepi
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I messed up the trigger on my Tuned HW97. What happened was I tightend the screw that adjusts the trigger, to tight. It mashed the spring down and made it to small. I tried taking it out and streching it to its orginal size, but its just crappy now. The trigger is total crap! My GS1000's plastic trigger is now better then my HW97's! The only thing I broke was the spring... Can someone tell me where I can find a spring that will restore the orginal quality of my trigger? How about springs I can find around the house? Or do I have to buy one?
Thanks
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In Reply to: An update for everyone posted by Marty Silver Streak on August 11, 2000 at 22:02:16:
Take it easy, and relax, with no hurry to get back to business, I think I speak for every one here who know you and we know you have been through the ringer, .... walk slow.... thom
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I just got my first squirrel with my R-9 in .20. I was working in the back yard this morning when I saw 3 squirrels in one of the trees in the front yard. I moved my Suburban in the driveway to shield me from the view of the squirrels. I got my R-9 and rested my hand with the rifle on the door frame of the Suburban. The distance was about 22 yards to where the squirrels were in the tree. I waited until one of the squirrels was in position so the tree would act as a back stop. I put the crosshairs from the 4 x 12 Trophy on its head and pulled the trigger. A dead squirrel hit the ground with no flopping around. The pellet was a Benjamin Sheridan Cylindrical 14.3 grains. My gun was sighted in at 25 yards.
I tested some .20 pellets last night : Beeman FTS @758.2, Beeman Ram Jet @ 733.5 and Benjamin Sheridan Cylindrical @ 652.3.
The Cylindrical and the FTS shot 5 shots into a ragged hole.The Ram Jet didn't shoot well at all.
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In Reply to: An update for everyone posted by Marty Silver Streak on August 11, 2000 at 22:02:16:
Glad to hear it Marty ! RB
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In Reply to: An update for everyone posted by Marty Silver Streak on August 11, 2000 at 22:02:16:
Marty-
Glad to see your mother is doing better.
-john from NY
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Guys,
Still in Kansas City. My mother is out of surgery and doing fine. Will be returning to St. Louis on Sunday, and will talk to everyone next week.
Want to thank everyone for all your well wishes and your prayers. Everything is working out fine.
See you soon,
Marty
SSSports
In Reply to: A little more posted by CCR fan. on August 11, 2000 at 21:34:37:
My first gun was a Daisy Red Ryder. It was easy to
cock and pretty accurate. And it had enough energy
to shoot birds. It has a wooden stock and metal. I
don't think there's any plastic stuff on it. And it
is a repeater. Holds 650 bb's I think.
<:-@
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In Reply to: Mac1 T-Shirt Day posted by Mac1 on August 11, 2000 at 19:39:23:
I've won 4 out of 6 FT matches wearing my Lucky Mac-1 shirt!
It's one of my secret weapons along with my four leaf clovers.
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In Reply to: Dogs in Rural Country posted by MarkD on August 11, 2000 at 19:59:22:
I saw on the news about 2 months ago some sicko
slit a dogs throat and threw it in a dumpster.
And it was still alive! That's just nastie ! I would
never shoot a dog UNLESS it was trying to kill me.
Some people are so sick and twisted these days!
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In Reply to: Re: Source of Crosman 160 posted by john from NY on August 10, 2000 at 23:44:19:
Mine came with about ten dings on a nice looking stock. The barrel had scratches but it holds air and shoots. I think the damage was do to poor packing.
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In Reply to: Re: Dogs in Rural Country posted by Uncle Gary on August 11, 2000 at 20:44:54:
Unc, sometimes you're able to say something in just a sentence that I can't seem to communicate in ten. I'm with ya'.
I've grown up, and now live again, just a stick's throw from the area where this occured, and my point in an earlier post (one of those long jobs and probably not half as clear as the last half of your last sentence) was that in some places there a few people that are much more vicious, destructive, and *feral* than any 'animal' present. It would not surprise me to learn that whoever did this actually called the dog over to him (it was mentioned the dog was an amiable sort) patted the thing on the head with one hand while reaching for the gun with the other - just to show his hangin' buddies how callous and 'tough' he could be.
'...for yucks.' '...for the hell of it.' For a few minutes of sadly misperceived prestige that typifies this sort of environment. It's not just Bridgeport either... these places and attitudes are everywhere.
I apologize if my several posts on this topic have offended anyone - it's just that I'm feeling the squeeze between two urban centers and I've grown up and always lived with this type of thing always hovering nearby and around me and this just tripped my cord a little. My apologies to you too Russ, for maybe bashing a little harder than I realize on this type of place and character, and this incident ...I'm gonna' let it go now.
I envy all and any of you in some of the more rural areas.
All the posts about roaming pets are valid - I'm just trying to draw the distinction that this is less about that than it is about callous violence and the blatant absence of anything even remotely resembling 'humanity'.
on to other thoughts .....
Tim
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I don't think that its that likely, but I thought that if anyone would know, it would be you guys. Thanks
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In Reply to: Re: I back you Dave posted by Mike Pearson on August 11, 2000 at 20:22:14:
Mike, while I also believe that the .177 is the best all around caliber and all that's really needed with modern springers, I also think that the power of the modern magnum springers really makes the .22 cal the best hunting cal. Over 20 years ago when I bought my "high power" HW35 with 8 fpe, .177 was really the ONLY viable hunting cal. Heck, even the "powerful" FWB 124 only made about 10fpe at best in .177! Now you can get springers that shoot .22s in excess of 800fps. I bet that if Capstick had one of these guns "way back when", he would've used it instead. By the way, Capstick writes great hunting stories about his days removing dangerous animals in Africa that would terrorize native villages. I think the title of one of his books is "Death In The Tall Grass". Real good "control hunter" stories!
Still, .177s rule! Heh Heh :c(=)
Regards, wved
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In Reply to: Re: Dogs in Rural Country posted by chasm on August 11, 2000 at 20:29:56:
gets sicker everyday. More killing more shooting. It makes me feel like I have to put one more shell in my shotgun everyday just to feel safe. If someone can shoot a dog just like that their is not doubt in my mind that their are sick people out their that will just one day start shooting. Does anyone else feel this?
TimH
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In Reply to: only get a gray screen that says posted by J. Thomas on August 11, 2000 at 00:19:21:
Its up now.
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In Reply to: Re: 1st Gun to teach 8 yr old posted by CCR fan. on August 11, 2000 at 21:26:25:
The Daisy model 105 "buck" and the "Timberwolf" might also be good. They have wood stocks and are made of metal. Kids sometimes like that more. Psychologically, kids tend to feel more attached to something if they get to pick it. You might just want to have a general idea of what he wants, and then take him to Walmart to see what he likes. With some kids though, this can be a real pain in the but :)
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In Reply to: Re: Kadet Trainer BB Rifle, Paris Mfg. Co., Savannah, Tenn. posted by JS on August 11, 2000 at 10:32:05:
To Jack: I have owned a number of the "toy guns" you mentioned. I actually was a member of the Kadet Corps of America, though I have lost the certificate and the "cock-and-bolt" training rifle that I owned. However, this rifle was given to me about 15 years ago, and I have never seen another example. The construction is quite rugged, and if I find out how much it's worth, I think that I will sell it.
Rene
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In Reply to: 1st Gun to teach 8 yr old posted by Ted August on August 11, 2000 at 17:52:28:
I started out with bb guns at quite a young age, and then moved up to "real" guns when I got older.It hasn't been until recently that i've gotten into adult air gunning. All along the way, I have been pretty aware of how I have related to the guns. When I was eight, I remember not being able to cock some bb guns on my own. This might be something that you might want to take into account. You see, it all depends on how much control you would like to have on your sons shooting. If you want to have tons of control, get something that he probably wont be able to cock, like a break barel or really stiff pump. If you want him to have the pleasure of loading his own gun, get him something like a Daisy or Copperhead bb gun. If he was a bit older, I'd recomend something else, but he's only eight, and it sound like he had a lot of fun with the plinker you mentioned. You should be able to find a few viable models at a local Walmart. I'd get something cheep. At eight, if you compromise and get something you think he will want at 12, you'll just end up getting a gun that he will grow out of anyway. Thats what happened with me. Pellets are funner, but kids can shoot a lot, and I remember loving the heck out of bb's, and the "one million" of them that I could get for just a few bucks. You can get a good kid gun at Walmart for $20.00, $30.00 for a great 8 year old gun. Remember, all he needs it for are the first two years, then he'll be bigger and stronger, and ready for a new gun. You might want to take a look at the Crosman Copperhead "Black Lightning" ,nice gun for little guys.
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where is the airgun show at sunday in Swartz Creek Michigan
Thanks Mike
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hundreds of photos of kids from all over the USA, having fun with their airguns, What a wonderful sight to see
In Reply to: Re: Dogs in Rural Country posted by Uncle Gary on August 11, 2000 at 20:44:54:
do. I know that there is idiots running around doing these things and sometimes they shoot people for no reason at all I do not doubt that it was irational and careless thinking that led to stupid act of humanity. But there is a possibility that some one may have had a minature pekinese chained up in their own yard that that dog was attacking none the less the outcome is still a tragedy if only the owner could have known his dogs wherabouts at all times and been responsible enough to keep it chained or leashed up or kenneled this would not have happened.
I know that dogs still sometimes get away it has happened to me on several occasions but once in a blue moon would not or should not warrant such drastic measures. As a pet owner it is these times that makes me sick to my stomach!!
MarkD
ps I am glad to see you guys took this message in the right way because really Im a nice guy and do not believe in shoot at first sight. I guess this is because I am a pet owner too!!
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Ok thats my question. Ive had this beauty of a
gun for a week and Id like to scope it with a
Swift 669. What do the experts think about a
decent mount?
Rick
Wiley, are you out there?
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In Reply to: Re: Commemorative Air Rifle for " W " , (if he wins) posted by Matt Donovan on August 11, 2000 at 21:09:09:
If gore wins, send the stuff to Bush anyway.
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In Reply to: Crosman 167 posted by jon on August 11, 2000 at 00:17:04:
I think as a rule of thumb, Crosman's CO2 and pneumatic guns were made at the rate of 5 or so .22's for every .177. The 167 is quite a bit rarer than the 160, but was made in an equal number or variations--crossbolt and trigger-guard safeties, etc.
Since pneumo and gas guns tend to get quite a bit more power in the larger caliber, the .177 Crosmans tend to end up as collector items rather than working shooters, and hit the market less often in my observation.
No difference in quality, though--same exact gun outside of the hole in the barrel.
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In Reply to: Commemorative Air Rifle for " W " , (if he wins) posted by chasm on August 11, 2000 at 19:58:04:
Chasm,
That sounds like a good idea to me. Maybe a CO2 Crosman (New target model?) with one of Doc's silent pellet traps. I would also throw in literature by the Gaylords, Fletcher, Groenewold, Elbe, Robinson etc. (who am I forgetting?). I'll chip in.
Matt
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In Reply to: Noise Neighbors - PCPs vs. R9 vs. Cr 160 posted by BrianW on August 11, 2000 at 11:14:48:
The only Career I ever shot was brutally loud, though admittedly cranked up pretty far. My old Remington 521 .22 is not nearly that loud with even the hottest ammo.
Although all kinds of airguns have their advantages and disadvantages, IMHO where noise is a concern you're talking springers, period. A 20 ft-lb springer is much quieter than any CO2 or pneumatic, even my trusty Sheridan with only 4 pumps, and that's just plain physics.
And as one of the other respondents pointed out, the nature of a springer's sound is much more user-friendly as well. Most of the racket is from the innards thrashing about near your ear, with no muzzle report (I have to laugh at the British fascination with "silencers" for springers, what a joke). I don't know how many times I've had a plinking session interrupted by a squirrel or bird on the range that simply didn't recognize the sound of the gun as something threatening.
Assuming your neighbor is as bright as a squirrel, a springer is the only way to fly in the 'burbs.
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In Reply to: Re: Best looking pistol around...suggestions? posted by Dave Monck on August 10, 2000 at 17:48:23:
The finest looking pistol has to the Harrington Gat in .177
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In Reply to: Re: Saver 303 posted by RBest on August 11, 2000 at 19:06:11:
Russ:
I think Dave's out of the 303's, unless he's got some more in recently. He does have the other models though. Cheers!
Gary
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In Reply to: Commemorative Air Rifle for "W ", (if he wins) posted by chasm on August 11, 2000 at 19:58:04:
Count me in, how much will you need apiece Charley? Regards,
Unc
P.S.: Hope he wins, you're lucky to know him!
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In Reply to: Re: Pellet lubricant posted by DaveG on August 10, 2000 at 10:00:55:
I'm shooting a couple of springers. An old HW80 and a pro-elite both in .177. With regards to the Pledge, do you just spray it into the tin of pellets?
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In Reply to: Dogs in Rural Country posted by MarkD on August 11, 2000 at 19:59:22:
I can certainly sympatize with what you're trying to say here, I live in a rural area of western N.C. and we occasionally have this problem too. But this was clearly not the case of the dog in Russ' post yesterday! This dog was certainly not chasing any farm animals in the downtown shops area! Someone cold-bloodedly put a bullet in this dogs head just for the hell of it, then put it in a shopping cart and delivered it to him, again obviously trying to make a point! I stand by everything I said yesterday: someone ought to kick the shit out of this bastard!
Unc
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In Reply to: Commemorative Air Rifle for " W " , (if he wins) posted by chasm on August 11, 2000 at 19:58:04:
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In Reply to: Dogs in Rural Country posted by MarkD on August 11, 2000 at 19:59:22:
Mark,
On our ranch when I see the cattle running in a panic stricken fashion, I know that there are dogs nearby. The mother cows are trying to protect their calves. The problem here in Texas is that too many dog owners don't tend to their pets, and allow them to roam free. The real cattlemen (I don't qualify, yet), don't hesitate to shoot these dogs, and in the case of my acquaintenances, will deliver said dog to the owner's doorstep. Moral here is to be aware of your dog's wherebouts.
chasm
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In Reply to: I back you Dave posted by MarkD on August 11, 2000 at 17:16:18:
Twenty-two is a great hunting caliber no doubt about it. Still think .25 beats it for hunting though, .22 popularity notwithstanding. People tend to buy what the distributors push. For springers, that was .177 for decades. Alot of people, including the late great Peter Hathway Capstick, thought that .177 was the best for airgun hunting (to my knowledge he never shot anything else). I'm not trying to nitpick with your (very good) choice. I'm just saying that selling popularity is very deceptive at best. If an airgun supply business sells but one caliber, don't be overly surprised if you find out that that's the caliber they push and sell. --- Mr.P
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In Reply to: what about the colt 45 posted by mike caldwell on August 11, 2000 at 14:11:10:
I have the S&W 686 C02 revolver which is made by umerex(sp) the sam company who makes the Colt. The triger is nice on this gun! Fine double action and short crisp single with barely any creep. It will do 1 inch at 10 yards easy and If I try real hard and feed it good pellets it'll do 3/4".
I bet the Colt would do the same, just make sure it's single action also.
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In Reply to: Commemorative Air Rifle for " W " , (if he wins) posted by chasm on August 11, 2000 at 19:58:04:
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After reading the post from Russ I just feel the need to post the view that many land owners have on free ranging dogs.
First let me say this I am a dog owner actually I have several I also have a cat a pig and horses and cows a ferret. basicly what I am saying I am a pet lover!
I also happen to be a land owner. I do not live on the farm it is about 35 min away we raise cows and keep our horses on the farm it is 138 acres I put in food plots for deer and turkey. I do hunt deer and turkey mostly just trophy hunting (have not killed a deer in 2 years)
This is a story about what happened 3 years ago my father received a phone call from the caretaker of our family farm around 4 in the afternoon on a very cold and blustery day wind chills in the -digits and the ground was coverd by snow!!!
Bill you need to come out here right away 2 of your horses have fallen through the ice I do not know what to do!! My dad who is a retired veterinarian drove out to the farm to find 2 horses were in fact standing in water half way up their gerth (chest) with icicle hanging off them.
The only way they (my dad and caretaker) could get to them was breaking 3-5 inches of ice thus creating a path for them to get out while doing this they discoved my sisters horse was under the ice and dead the other horses were too weak to get out they had to be led out by a rope put into the barn with blankets and injected with antibiotics these two horses survived!
My Dad asked the caretaker what happened the reply was 4 dogs were chasing the horses around the pond they (horses) went out on the ice and fell trough pond is about 400 yrds from the house inwhich the caretaker resides he coul not get out there fast enough!!
It took 3 weeks before I could pull the dead horse from the pond with my tractor while I was pulling it to the grave yard (a place we put dead cows) I could only see the tears filling my sisters eyes as my Dad told her what happened and remembering all the times I drove the back roads looking for dogs I have seen chasing cows and horses and knocking on the door and telling the pet owner that I seen their dog chasing animals on our farm and asked they put them on a leash or chain only to hear them say "but this why we moved out to the country to let our dogs have space to run".
Sometimes they would say "oh she would never do anything like that" Well I am here to tell you they do, perhaps it is primal instinct or boredom but they do like to chase other animals.
Another fact whitetail deer #1 kill rate is hunting(legal) #2 is poachers #3 is domestic dogs they do not actually take them down instead they just run them to the point that they get all latherd up with sweat only later to sucomb to the elements (cold) this usually only happens to the young deer mostly bucks but from what I gather it is a long death! (I read this, in the book it stated in some isolated areas dogs are the number one threat to the whitetail population)
I still do not believe in KILLING dogs I have adopted a strike three policy and yes I have had 2 strike 3s and it pains me deeply (to the point of tears) that it had come to the only resolution I could find because I know it was someones pet.
Our neighbor one day told me "if I see any dogs shoot them I do not care if they are mine" "the sonsabitches killed 7 of my calfs last year" folks this is a popular mentality out in rural areas.
The point I am making is PLEASE do not let your dogs run free at all hours of the day and night because you really do not know what they are doing. As a bow hunter and spending many hours hanging in a tree looking out over our pastures I have seen the cute little Terriers and labs shepards you name it! I have even seen a pregnant dog running with other dogs just trying to keep up with the pack! These dogs are just being dogs but they may be causing someone alot of grief when they chase 1000lb cows and steers through barb wire fences.
MarkD
PS This is not intended to piss anyone off! I do love dogs and cats I really care about your dogs and cats PLEASE try not to let them run wild because I know and you know they are just being dogs but someone may see otherwise
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Fellow Airgunners,
I consider myself fortunate to live in a state where all 29 statewide elective offices are in the hands of Republicans, and CCW's are available to all who have clean records ( I returned here from California in 1995, just before the "Golden State" went the other direction). I feel I owe this good fortune, in large part, to our Governor, George W. Bush. Governor Bush is referred to down here in Texas as the Governor, "W", or "Shrub", depending on your political leaning. Anyhow, I think it would be nice to send the President-Elect a nice air rifle as a gift in order to show him how much we appreciate his support of the shooting sports. I'm looking for suggestions as to an appropriate gift. I think I can effect the delivery as I've met Ms. Bush several times (never the Governor though). Let me know your thoughts, please.
chasm
P.S.
I realize that I may be putting off many of ya'll of the other political persuasion including some of my California airgun pals. But once the election results are final, we airgunners need to look out for our sport, whomever occupies the White House.
cm
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In Reply to: Strange way to start the the day posted by Russ Best on August 10, 2000 at 20:18:56:
I have to agree with those who say that the responsibility for a pet's well being rests with its owners, especially in a city. I have a neighbor on one side who leaves her cats (four at last count) run loose, and a neighbor across the street who lets her dog out to shit wherever it wants each morning. This is clearly against local ordinances, and the owners are just plain irresponsible.
I've had to clean dog shit off of brand-new carpet because of this type of irresponsibility. If the owners won't cooperate and animal control won't fix the problem, then a shot to the buttocks with that lame, underpowered airgun you saved from your youth seems a reasonable course of action.
John
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My grandpa was in the resistanse during world war 2. He was given a ruger i thing. However after the war (1947) it was rebuilt to a pellet gun. it is a crest on top of the barrel. i think the writing is Polish or tjekkian.
Does this weapon have any walue?
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In Reply to: Crosman 357-6 repairs? posted by Patrick on August 11, 2000 at 13:16:54:
crossman will rebuild it for $17.00 including return shipping. just got mine back and it is fine.
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In Reply to: Crosman 2240 posted by Gary on August 11, 2000 at 17:55:37:
The 2240 is very accurate, excellent for plinking and powerful enough for up close hunting. I've had mine about a year and no leaks. Here in Hawaii my average shooting temp. is approx. 80 degrees and I get about 30-35 shots before I notice a drop in power. I love it. You should see what wadcutters do to a beer can.
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In Reply to: Noise Neighbors - PCPs vs. R9 vs. Cr 160 posted by BrianW on August 11, 2000 at 11:14:48:
Straight Shooters has done some testing on Air Guns and some common items such as staple gun & opening can soda.
They also discuss how the tests were performed. They have quite a few Airguns listed.
Click on link below to go there.
In Reply to: Will everyone please post the URL for their personal Airgun site? posted by Josh P. on August 10, 2000 at 16:50:34:
So. Bay Rifle Club is giving away Mac1 T-shirts to all the kids participating
in the shooting safety program this month. The Southern California Program is
run every third Sat. of the month at the Harbor Police Range in San Pedro. It is
located 1/2 mile south of Anaheim St. on Gaffey. That's about a mile west of
the 110 Fwy. We start the program at 9 AM every third saturday and we can
shoot till about noon. I encourage all folks with children between the ages of
8-118 to participate in the program to insure that your kids are gun smart.
SBRC was funded in 1996 by a grant from the NRA. It is one of many NRA based
programs which are ready to teach safe gun handling to anyone interested. I
teach the program and have taught thousands of kids safe gun handling.
The program emphasis is safe gun handling and how to recognize an unsafe situation.
The cost is $5 per shooter and due to the generosity of Tom Jue the program will
include a souvenir T-shirt as well this month.
Thanks for your participation and shoot safe.
Later
Tim
In Reply to: Installing the scope posted by Dimitris on August 11, 2000 at 19:13:37:
D: shims under the rear mount should ease the elevation problem. Getting the crosshairs straight is a pain sometimes. Try using a criss cross torquing pattern, turning each screw a little bit at a time, until you are done. RB
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Yesterday after many years I removed the scope (which my father had installed) from my Diana 54 in order to shoot with the open sights. Now I want to put it back on, but I find it very difficult to keep the crosshairs perfectly level when I tight the scope ring screws. I also want the rifle to shoot at 10 meters with the scope's dials approximately in their middle. It used to be set like that but know I can't adjust it. It keeps shooting down so I guess I have to find a way to elevate the back of the scope. I would appretiate any help!
Thank you in advance,
Dimitris
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In Reply to: Questions about Benjamin 347 posted by Lloyd S. on August 11, 2000 at 09:47:13:
if I remember right, the bolt on the 347 is merely a tapered steel shaft fitting into a tapered brass breech. No o ring as on Crosman or Sheridan guns.
The gun may have been severly over oiled. Pump and shoot without pellet straight or almost straight up. This will blow excess oil out the back of the valve. The blast to the face may be some of the oil coming back past the bolt breech metal to metal 'seal'.
hope this helps. alan in ga
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In Reply to: Bushnell Yardage Pro 500 for $228 posted by Ed B on August 11, 2000 at 04:44:36:
The going price of the yardage pro 500 is 229 at most catalog dealers and at Dicks Sporting goods. I have owned one for a little while and it is really nice, but will not read yardage under 20 yds and does not have any focusing, so make sure you look through one before you buy. The monocular is 6x and looks slightly out of focus to me until you get past 100 yds or so. It can be used with eyeglasses on if you fold the eyecup down. These things are great for varmit hunters but I am not sure how much good they will do airgunners.
Sam
PS They are fun to play with though
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In Reply to: Saver 303 posted by Juan Mijangos on August 11, 2000 at 19:03:11:
Juan: Mac-1 Airguns sells 303's and has a great mod for them. Also try Dave's Airgun Service. He was selling Savers, but I don't know if he still is. Both will be found under the Airgun Resources section of this forum's homepage. RB
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Anybody knows where can I buy this gun?
Or the QB-1?
Thank you.
Juan
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In Reply to: Scope and mounts for BSA Super Sport posted by DAN on August 11, 2000 at 10:54:05:
Try the number 79-0039 Bushnell Sportview. Around $60 at Natchez Shooters Supply. Do NOT use the rings that are included with the scope on your BSA. Bad news! Call PSI and pick up a pair of BSquares' 10060 rings for about $30. RB
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In Reply to: 2250 vs 2289 posted by Nik on August 11, 2000 at 16:59:37:
I should have mention this early back in my postings.
The old painted 5 groove barrel that was on the 2289 has a diameter of .438 [even with the paint off].
The replacement blued 10 groove barrel has a diameter of .435.
The effect of this was that the replacement barrel fit very loosely in the plastic receiver--so much so that I glued the barrel into the plastic receiver...The fit seemed so poor that I didn't think it would work if I did nothing.
It may be, then, that Crosman also changed the ID of the plastic receiver and so you might want to consider also ordering a new plastic receiver if you decide to get a replacement barrel.
Don
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In Reply to: P3 Available in Canada? nt posted by Steve T on August 11, 2000 at 14:34:31:
Steve,
I have never heard of any Beeman dealers in Canada.
Granlund Firearms in B.C. is an HW dealer. The P-3 from Beeman is just a renamed HW40.
Try Granlund at 1-250-286-1998.
HTH,
Todd
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In Reply to: 2250 vs 2289 posted by Nik on August 11, 2000 at 16:59:37:
Nik:
I posted about this not too long back.
My 2289 was a 5 groove and not able to get it to shoot well I bought a replacement from Crosman. The one they sent me is a 10 groove and it shoots very well...I can't say for sure whether Crosman made a change to the 2289 barrels or shipped me a 2250 barrel by mistake.
Also I have a 10 groove 2250 and it shoots very well.
The implication is very strong that a 10 groove shoots a lot better than a 5 groove...I don't know that that is the case.....Just reporting my story.
Don
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In Reply to: 2250 vs 2289 posted by Nik on August 11, 2000 at 16:59:37:
You might want to buy a new barrel for the 2250. I think they are pretty cheap from Crosman.
I heard the older 2289 with painted metal parts are not as accurate as the new blued guns either.
HTH,
Todd
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In Reply to: Source of Crosman 160 posted by john from NY on August 10, 2000 at 22:45:09:
john,
I have four of the CMP 160's. make an offer.
johno
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In Reply to: Re: RWS 34 trigger creep. posted by DaveG on August 11, 2000 at 16:57:23:
What I eliminated was the 1 st long pull befor the letoff. I'm not sure if you call that the 1st or 2nd stage. Thanks for the information on the cleaning pellet. The directions didn't say anything about following it with a pellet or using 3 of them at the same time. Fortunatly I only cleaned it once using 1 pellet. I hope I didn't damage anything! It still seems to shoot the same so hopefully it's OK. Thanks for all the imformation. I have been shooting for years but this is the 1st decent air rifle I have bought. I also have a $35 Chineese in .22. I hate to say how many times it's been dry fired! Thanks again; Don T.
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In Reply to: Trophy scope on Patriot posted by BK on August 11, 2000 at 15:21:26:
If your rest is too firm, the gun will bounce too much. A springer rest should be relatively soft. A firm sandbag, windowsill,deck rail, etc. are terrible rests. Also, the gun must be rested on the same spot of it's forestock each time, and the specific spot you chose is also important! Vary by one inch- and groups open up. Start by placeing a piece of masking tape on the stock, about 2" in front of the trigger guard. Fire a couple 'groups', then move the tape farther forward 1/2". Keep trying this, 1/2" at a time, until you've gone at least 8" from the trigger. Note which position produced the best groups, and go back to that spot- never change it after that.
One more thing- pellet selection is critical, ESPECIALLY in high velocity .177's (one reason I don't care for .177 Patriots). There are way to many variables at this point to point the finger at your scope. More things to do: check all stock screws for snugness;; make sure scope isn't sliding back in the mounts.... place a piece of tape on the cheekpiece and make sure you contact the cheekpiece/tape at the same spot on your cheek for each shot.
80% of all innacuracy occurs behind the trigger. Try the URL below and click onto the FAQ section, for an article on hold sensitivity. Regards, Russ Best
In Reply to: 1st Gun to teach 8 yr old posted by Ted August on August 11, 2000 at 17:52:28:
Marksman Biathalon.
Pretty easy to cock, pretty accurate (I guess) and has one heck of a stiff trigger. Something I think is very important.
BB guns are ok but pellet guns are "funner"
Regards,
Craig
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In Reply to: Re: IHZ 62? posted by Stocky on August 11, 2000 at 17:36:06:
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In Reply to: 1st Gun to teach 8 yr old posted by Ted August on August 11, 2000 at 17:52:28:
Ted: The 499 is probably the gun, it's the only single shot target BB gun in Daisy's line. To get one you'll have to go through Daisy directly. I've got some earlier models (99) so I can't comment on the 499 but I've heard really good things about it.
Another good choice is the IZH 61, it's a few buck more ($85 @ Gollen Toller). Its a five shot rifled repeater, has an adjustible stock for little people and a nice adjustable trigger. Shoots well with cheap pellets - Copperheads and Hobby's. Should be easy for an eight year old to cock.
If you scroll down the posts you find other posts on the IZH 61 along with some URLs to other sites featuring the gun. WARNING: some poeple have had trouble forking this thing over to the kid and they've had to buy another.
HTH - Steve B.
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In Reply to: Schematic for Crossman 760. posted by Eric on August 11, 2000 at 11:42:59:
Eric,
I just finished two of the 760. Keep in mind if you order a parts diagram from Crosman, try to tell them what year it is or you may get the wrong parts list. the 760's went through many different changes over the years. one of the guns I worked on had a parts diagram that called it "Phase I" it was made in 1979. The other one was about 5 years older and had a completely different valve and pump mechanism.
jo
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In Reply to: Re: Reusable CO2 cartridges - anyone tried the Brocock Air Capsules??? posted by Mr. NoBulk on August 11, 2000 at 16:54:48:
I don't like the looks that much either but I have one or two that doo well. They have PCP stype tanks/res and look pretty "normal".
But bulk is effective
Regards,
Craig
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I found this neat little pull through kit at Wal-Mart today. Made by Otis. It's a plastic coated steel 'Memory Flex' cable with a brass handle and patch tip. And they mean 'Memory Flex' too. When I took it out to play with it in the parking lot it was sort of tied up in a knot. When I put it back in the case I just wraped it in loops. When I got home and opened the case it sprung out like one of those "snakes" in the peanut brittle cans. Perhaps not a replacement for a Crown-saver but a nice compact kit none the less. Oh, It comes with some patches and a tiny bottle of MP-5. Man that stuff stinks!
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How accurate are these pistols? Do they leak? Last co2 I had was as a kid and it was a pain in the butt. (40 years ago) Leaked all the time. More wasted co2 than used. How many shots do you get from a co2 cylinder? I really like the P3 but it doesn't have much power.
Thanks
Gary
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Follow the url below.
regards,
Jeff
My son & I were just at cub scout camp & they had Daisy single shot BB guns with rear peep sights. I didn't get a model number but they shot fairly well (dime) by adults. Although I'm sure we used regular BBs in the gun.
I noticed a 499B on the special deal page and was wondering if this could be the gun or if there might be another. Also, if anyone has any other recommendations for a good starter gun & where to obtain I'd appreciate that as well.
Thanks in advance.....Ted
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In Reply to: RWS 34 trigger creep. posted by Don Trinko on August 11, 2000 at 16:40:10:
Do NOT use a single cleaning pellet! Or even three or four, for that matter. On a gun this powerful I would use one only with a "real" pellet behind it.
The design of the Diana trigger is quite different from any other airgun. It's important to understand that the adjustment screw controls ONLY the point at which you transition from the first to second stage of the trigger pull. You CANNOT directly adjust the length or pull weight of this trigger--only this transition point.
As you have discovered, if you turn the screw too far out, you simply have a long first stage--light, yes, but with no "feel" for the letoff point.
Reset your adjustment so that the trigger releases just after the second stage point is reached. You should feel a long smooth take-up (the first stage), followed by a heavier, but short and crisp, release (the second stage).
IMHO RWS triggers are quite nice if set up properly, even though there are no "true" adjustments. Basically there is just one right way to set up a given individual trigger, and once you get there it's pointless to fool any more with the adjustment.
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In Reply to: IHZ 62? posted by Flix on August 11, 2000 at 17:27:23:
http://olympia.fortunecity.com/kickbox/377/izh60ind.html
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In Reply to: IHZ 62? posted by Flix on August 11, 2000 at 17:27:23:
Sorry,
They're not in production, and not imported.
Haven't been for at least 2 years.
Rarer then Hen's teeth!
I've never even seen one for sale on Brad's page.
LOL,
Stocky
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In Reply to: Re: Career question on disassembling posted by Sloop on August 10, 2000 at 23:34:12:
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Anybody have any info on the IHZ 62 and where I would be able to purchase one?
Any reviews? Would it be any good for rat hunting?
Thanks.
Felix
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In Reply to: Re: Career posted by DaveG on August 11, 2000 at 10:26:26:
The .22 Career is the number one seller in the family of Careers. It is my opinion that the .22 rules (for hunting) Air guns were ment to be precision instruments. The way I see it if the .22 or at very most .25 cal can not get the job done then you may as well move into the centerfires.
MarkD
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In Reply to: RWS 34 trigger creep. posted by Don Trinko on August 11, 2000 at 16:40:10:
I've got several RWS guns, and they all have a bit of trigger slack, which is what I assume you mean by "creep". You can never totally eliminate the second stage pull, regardless of how you adjust it. As long as it's light and crisp enough to satisfy you, don't worry about it. No, the triggers on all springers aren't the same, the RWS is middle-of-the-road, the Rekord triggers on HW springers are generally the choice of most savvy springer shooters. Remember too that the RWS 34 is their low end model, triggers on the 52 and 54 are appreciably better. Per the felt cleaning pellets: use 3 at a time and you won't have any problems, they are handy for a quick bore cleaning in the field. Cheers!
Unc
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In Reply to: Need help: what co2 pistol to buy? posted by TK on August 11, 2000 at 15:35:44:
If you go for the 1008 you can improve accuracy by gluing the barrel inside its housing. It groups suprizingly well for its weight.
Keep the CO2 bulbs in a dry place to prevent rust on the outside.
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In Reply to: IS A SCOPE A NECESSITY FOR HUNTING? posted by BSAHunter on August 11, 2000 at 14:31:29:
You dont have to, but it's a lot funnier with one
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In Reply to: Noise Neighbors - PCPs vs. R9 vs. Cr 160 posted by BrianW on August 11, 2000 at 11:14:48:
The Career mostly compares with the Benj or Sheridan atleast that is what I hear with my ears
I think another aproach would be to talk with the neighbors maybe get them to shoot you never know maybe they are thinking Career or will be. By asking them if your shooting (describe what type of guns and all the safety issues or precautions you are using) bothers them you will know where you stand and then you can take it from there. Most likely putting them on the spot with the question they will tell you that it does not bother them.
If you try this aproach I think you will come out ahead and the Career maybe in the future and if you do get their approval whatch what time you shoot and how much just so they dont change their minds!
MarkD
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I have one of each. The 2289 is new, the 2250 bought used, age unknown. Problem is at same range using same pellets & same scope 2289 groups are 2/3 size of 2289.
I did notice that the barrel of the 2250 seems to have aboput half as many grooves as the 2289.
Did Crosman cxhange this during production? Per the parts list this is the same barrel. Also the 2250 appears to be black powder coat while 2289 is blued. I would consider getting a new barrel if not for that.
Anyone have any thoughts on this?
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In Reply to: RWS 34 trigger creep. posted by Don Trinko on August 11, 2000 at 16:40:10:
don, first of all, NO cleaning pellets usually do not provide enough resistance to be safe in most spring guns... if you do use them, load two or three at a time, or two with a light pellet behind them...
I don't own the 34, but in general, with a two stage trigger, you can't eliminate the second stage... maybe just make it light enough that you don't really feel it, but it is there... I'm not so sure that is what you have done though, based on your description... The first stage, which is just a bunch of movement in the trigger, before you hit the second stage, which is where you actually feel the sear enguagement/release... On the 34 I don't think there is an adjustment to remove the first stage, just make it lighter...
Regards,
DaveG
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In Reply to: Re: Reusable CO2 cartridges - anyone tried the Brocock Air Capsules??? posted by CJ on August 11, 2000 at 14:08:22:
I am the only one who hates how ugly bulked guns tend to be?
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I think I found the problem with My Hy-Score 800. Part #849 -cylinder cover lock- is missing on mine. I think this part may also seal the cover. A previous owner assembled the cover to the cylinder with a sealant. After relubing per DTFletcher's advice, I used a sealant also. Power now seems to be back where it was (don't have a chrono)
For those not familiar with it the 800 was a springer similar in operation to a Webley Tempest. The main difference is that the piston on the 800 is concentic with the bore resulting in a more compact package. It is about the same size as a Luger with a similar grip angle. Rated velocity is about 450 fps in .177. It is easy to cock, has a nice trigger, and quiet. Accuracy is 2 to 2 1/2 inches at 25'. No target pistol but a good plinker.
I have yet to figure out how the barrel comes out, it can rotate 360 deg. and move fore and aft 1/4" but won't move further.
Perhaps someone else can answer that.
Regards,
Nik
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I just bought a RWS 34 and have adjusted the trigger. ( I adjusted it to eliminate the 2 nd stage pull )It is light enough but has a lot of creep. Is this normal? I'm do alot of shooting with 22 rimfire so I am used to that type of trigger. Are Air gun triggers on Springers usualy like this? Also I understand that you are not supossed to dry fire. I presume that the cleaning pellets provide enough resistance to prevent damage? Thanks; Don T.
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In Reply to: Trophy scope on Patriot posted by BK on August 11, 2000 at 15:21:26:
I was getting exactly those results when trying to rest my .22 Kodiak. I've always sighted in and shot my Kodiak offhand, repeating each hold exactly.
It's possible that the scope is crapped out, but first try zeroing offhand and check groups. Like I said, resting this gun doesn't work for me at all....Willey M
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Mac1 just got Eley Magnum .22 caliber bullet heads in and all back orders have been shipped today. If you don't get yours by next week, please call us. We are having a special sale for you guys. Any orders received by August 18th will be sold at the Whole Lotta Lead price of $11.25. After that, they are $13.50 for a tin of 300.
Later
Tim
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In Reply to: Looking for a daisy rifle with MV under 500 posted by dAtA on August 10, 2000 at 20:29:47:
IZH-61 at GUNS AND THINGS in Alberta. Price is $179. Accuracy is .20" at 10 meters.
The Slavia CZ631 is another good shooter in your price range. E-mail Fearon Steele if you want to save some cash. He has a used one for 2/3 price of new.
HTH,
Todd
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In Reply to: Re: Gary Barnes Expedition Series experience posted by Tom Gaylord on August 11, 2000 at 14:25:10:
I've been to Gary's site many, many times and I'm fascinated. I've not doubted his claims or build quality. Tough, reliable, powerful and accurate. I've also always wanted a Sharps rifle and have been curious about the Pedersoli Sharps offered in the latest Cabela's Catalog. I also posted recently about the Whiscombe JW80 that I am convinced is the ultimate springer. I've just got to make a decision because I have champagne taste on a beer budget. I enjoy shooting centerfire at the range and airgun right out my back door. (I love it all) I've been considering the .44 Rendezvous between 300 - 350 ft. lbs and the 3 year wait. Actually Gary's no interest monthly payments allow many the opportunity to afford his incredible pieces.
Thanks Tom, for your response.
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In Reply to: Re: 50 yard targets posted by Brad Troyer on August 11, 2000 at 09:03:35:
The NRA smallbore (22) distances are correct, but
should be in meters. The Air rifles are in yards.
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In Reply to: breechseal FWB124 - where? posted by Hans on August 11, 2000 at 10:03:14:
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In Reply to: Reusable CO2 cartridges - anyone tried the Brocock Air Capsules??? posted by TinkerMan on August 11, 2000 at 11:45:52:
I've got a Brocock revolver takes the air
cartridge system.
Shoot as fast as lightning but she loads a mite
slow...( Copyright Steve Earle and the Dukes :-) )
They take 6-10 pumps from the hand pump thingy
not 60-80 !Believe me 10 pumps is enough..makes
great exercise but can get a bit tiresome.
Or you can fill em from a stirrup pump or a
mega expensive diving bottle adaptor.
Best power out of the cartridges is only 11ftlbs
in the rifles and thats's all you can get..theres
no scope for tuning.
Pays yer money and you takes your choice...I
will say this..the guns are beautifully put
together and handle like 'real' firearms,but
the low power makes em just for fun I reckon.
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In Reply to: Re: Need help: what co2 pistol to buy? posted by jon on August 11, 2000 at 15:45:12:
Oh yeah, as far as I know the CO2 powerlets will last almost indefinely. I bought a Crosman 1600 from an elderly woman at one time. The pistol was her daughter's and had been sitting in the attic for over 20 years. She also gave me a package of powerlets that had been in the box with the 1600. They worked just fine!
-jon-
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In Reply to: Need help: what co2 pistol to buy? posted by TK on August 11, 2000 at 15:35:44:
If you can handle the price difference I would go with the Crosman C40. In my opinion (for whatever that's worth) there is a very noticeable difference between the C40 and the 1008. I don't know what the going rate for the 1008 is but I imagine it is around $40. You can pick up a C40 at Golden Toller for $79. I had a C40 that I put probably 1500 rounds through it without a single problem. A fun little shooter. The 1008 is a plastic pistol that acts like a plastic pistol.
I really can't help you with the Daisy, never had one or shot one!
-jon
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In Reply to: Need help: what co2 pistol to buy? posted by TK on August 11, 2000 at 15:35:44:
Welcome to the world of Airguning-
I am a bit biased towards Crosman, since I have been using there products for a while and they have never let me down. I would go for the C40; I hate to have lots of plastic on guns. The number of shots you get from a powerlet will vary by the temp. and what kinds of pellets you use.
good luck-
john from NY
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In Reply to: Just got my IHZ 61 from Golden Toller. Thanks Joe! posted by Ron Y. on August 11, 2000 at 14:52:11:
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In Reply to: Re: I don't think this question has been asked before. What does it mean? (nt) posted by AC on August 10, 2000 at 18:15:19:
People who don't have land of their own (or not suitable whatever) often apply to farmers and landowners for permission to hunt on their land. This is know as getting a shoot- like, getting a rat shoot would mean permission to hunt on land with rats available.
Dmitri
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In Reply to: Re: Comparison please. posted by Bob Kelly on August 09, 2000 at 09:52:36:
First of all, I think you should relax the image that you have of companies like Feinwerkbau and Air Arms and Daystate and such. They are not million-dollar corporations.
Also, Feinwerkbau's expertise is in 10m shooting. Field Target is a small niche market compared to 10m olympic shooting worldwide.
On top of that, making a great FT gun out of a good one is a matter of meticulous workmanship, and many hours in the shop. Alan Z. can do things to an airgun that no single stock corporation has come to match, not just because they don't know how to do it (although there are valid examples that this is true, aren't there, Dieter?), but mainly because it is not economically feasible to pay that amount of attention, and invest the time necessary to do so, on every single gun. A top line FT shooter who has access to the machinery needed, or to a helpful friend who has, can afford to do this, or get this done.
Some of the top shots agree that there are many fine old rifles that still have to be left in the dust, accuracy-wise -- the NJR 100 being one of them. I don't think that this is because they made better air rifles 10 years ago, but simply because many of these old rifles have so many hours of care and workmanship invested in them.
I, being a total nincompoop, have been kidding around with a 11 yr old AA100 quite a lot lately (with some help of a guy that has several nice pieces of machinery at his disposal), and I find it amazing what accuracy and quality you can get from such a thing.
User tunability is another thing, though. I've learnt that there is a very intricate balance between the different parameters that make a regulated PCP shoot, and that it is VERY easy to completely mess the thing up.
peter
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I will be asking a number of questions, so please bear with me. I recently started airgunning and I am looking for a fairly low cost semi-auto co2 pellet pistol. So far I've looked at the Crosman 1008 and the Daisy 45. Which is the better of the two? And would it be worth it to upgrade to the metal framed C40? Also, what is the self life for co2 powerlets? Thanks.
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In Reply to: Reusable CO2 cartridges - anyone tried the Brocock Air Capsules??? posted by TinkerMan on August 11, 2000 at 11:45:52:
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In Reply to: If you can spare a bit more.... posted by Fearon Steele on August 11, 2000 at 02:21:04:
Heck, the M-16 has plastic...
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Gun was shooting fine, could shoot pop tops, markers, candies fairly reliably at 10yd. Wanted to dial in even tighter so started shooting from a rested position and got so 5 shots hit inside/about a quarter (coin). Clicked "R" to move closer to bull about 1" or less at 10yd. After this everything went to crab and it's shooting all over "L" about 3-4" and high. Really there is no consistency or discernible pattern except away from the aimpoint. Has my scope failed or what? It was reasonably accurate but now I can't tell where it might shoot. How does one adjust scope back to "factory settings" and resight if it's not damaged? Trophy 4-12*40 on a Patriot .177 w/ Dampa mount. Any insights are appreciated. BTW had been previously been trying to get zeroed out to 20yd and beyond but was making many scope adj but figured the wind was acting on the shots so gave up.
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In Reply to: Steve in CT, and Dave G. ........... Now I'm sick !!!!!!! posted by Derrin on August 10, 2000 at 18:38:48:
What did you pay for your beloved Rapid? I'll bet it was three to four times what I have in my 707. And just exactly what do you think your rapid will do that my 707 won't? I can take the thing out and do an F/T match with it on Saturday, and on Sunday just click that little wheel up a notch or two, and blast away at 80 yards all day long...
Regards,
DaveG
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In Reply to: Re: BEST RIFLE SO FAR posted by RBest on August 10, 2000 at 22:12:05:
The most interesting sound is the one it makes on its last shot. it redefines the term "valve clatter".
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In Reply to: Looking for my first gun... posted by byrd on August 11, 2000 at 12:48:56:
my first gun was a crosman 66, its at walmart for like 45$ and mine is trustworthy still and it has atleast 40 pigeon kills to it.
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No one ever told me that an Airgun could be such fun! Thanks Joe for installing the scope mount, I put a 4x12x40 BSA on it, added a custom stock extension pad, and after sighting in this thing found it is more fun than a barrel of monkeys. Said I thought this would be my wifes but I dont know.
1/2" groups at 10 meters and it's not even broke in yet.
Ron Young
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In Reply to: THE OLD VERSUS THE NEW? posted by TLUCKIE on August 11, 2000 at 11:01:49:
TL: It could also be that the gun needs to be used a bit to seat in the pump cup and valve stuff. I know when I've overhauled my pumpers they're pretty pathetic for a while. After about 50-100 shots they're cooking again.
HTH - Steve B.
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I own a BSA SS and have never hunted with it i dont own a scope and was wondering if it is a must for hunting starlings and squirrels. With my irons i can hit cans at 75 yds. Any help on the topic would be greatly appreciated.
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In Reply to: Gary Barnes Expedition Series experience posted by Tony on August 11, 2000 at 06:57:48:
Tony,
I waited for somebody else to answer you but it doesn't look like anyone is going to.
As you may know, I own the first Expedition rifle Gary made. I also own the first Expedition Bison, because Gary upped the power of my rifle from 160 foot-pounds to over 500!
I also shoot 45/70, and the Bison is a lot like that. Big heavy bullet moving seemingly slow until it hits something, then WATCH OUT! You may know that one of the most famous shots in history was one made by buffalo hunter Billy Dixon at the Battle of Adobe Walls, where he shot an Indian off his horse at a (later) surveyed distance of 1,233 yards (it has long been claimed to be 1,538 yards). Quigley did something similar in the movies, but in real life there have seldom been shots taken at this distance. Billy's rifle was a Sharps 50/90, which throws a heavy lead bullet at less than 1,300 f.p.s.
A couple years ago, some scientists from Yuma Proving Grounds challenged the Dixon shot, saying no bullet going that slow could go so far. So they tested several old buffalo rifles with a recently-declassified military radar. Turns out the 50/90, shooting a 675-grain lead bullet with a muzzle velocity of 1,216 f.p.s.could throw shots to 3,600 yards, when the muzzle was elevated 30 degrees to the horizon!
And so it is with the Expedition series. You can go to Gary's site and see the targets for yourself. The only thing I would like to see there is 5-shot groups instead of 3-shot groups, but the results speak for themselves.
Is he lying about his results? Absolutely not! In the hands of a shooter, they will do what he says, and what you see on the site.
The guns are reliable, tough, and powerful. They require brains to operate, though. Someone who needs to be told what airgun to buy should never commit to one of these "thinking man's rifles." But if you want the ultimate performance in an airgun, this is it.
Gary has built such rifle because he was fascinated with the cclaims of power and accuracy from those who own vintage airguns. In testing, Gary, Dennis Quackenbush and I have found the old guns to be fairly mild - seldom getting to 200 foot-pounds. Accuracy was measured in hand spans at 50 yards.
Yes, the guns made today are definitely the most accurate and powerful big bores that have even been made.
Regards,
Tom Gaylord
The Airgun Letter
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I bought a whole "tub" of chalk sticks they are about an inch in diameter and are sold at your local Kmart in the toy section. They are on sale as it is the end of the summer, normally $12 for a tub (100 or so sticks) now only $3.99. The sticks can be easily cut into disks or you can cuth then into shorter sticks, each stick is about 5 inches long. Shoot those little guys and the "explode" It's great for some longer distance plinking and the stuff is chemically inert so there's no damage to anything.
As well I bought some half inch washers and used 6 inches of 75lb test fishing line to suspend them from my target holder...a solid hit at 40 yards from a 20 FPE gun will wrap them around the top crossarm on the target stand, if you're real good you can un-wrap them from it as well.
Regards,
Craig
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In Reply to: Noise Neighbors - PCPs vs. R9 vs. Cr 160 posted by BrianW on August 11, 2000 at 11:14:48:
A good rule of thumb to see if you need hearing protection is: after you finish shooting and go to a quiet room. If you hear ringing in your ear, then you have sustained some hearing damage. Next time wear hearing protection.
My P70, Steyr LP5P aren't loud enough to cause concern, but it is definitely noticeable at 500 fps. My Superten measured 109 decibels at the muzzle and scared the neighbors dogs 100-150 yards away. My Baretta 92F is only slightly louder than the 10m guns and doesn't rouse attention.
In Reply to: Re: Problem with linseed oil stock finish posted by bcd on August 09, 2000 at 21:26:32:
I was having the same problem so I bought a book on wood finishing. When I read it could take months to dry and also was not waterproof in the least, I removed it with #0000 steel wool and went with tung oil. If you go with tung oil, you won't be sorry, and it's waterproof.
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Does anyone know anything about the Colt 45 that Daisy sells. It is suppose to be very close to the real thing. I need a gun that works.
I have a Browning 40 High Power, but I can't shoot that in the back yard. I guess I am really asking about reliability and performance. Thanks.
Mike C.
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In Reply to: Reusable CO2 cartridges - anyone tried the Brocock Air Capsules??? posted by TinkerMan on August 11, 2000 at 11:45:52:
A guy showed me a set of these at the last FT match I was at pretty slick. He filled his off a scuba tank. As for your 2250 and 2240 { GO BULK }I learned my lesson . It cut my shooting to .003 cent a puff not counting pellet.
CJ
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In Reply to: Looking for my first gun... posted by byrd on August 11, 2000 at 12:48:56:
The 2240 would be a fine choice.
-john from NY
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In Reply to: Maximum Pumps for Crosman 101 posted by John on August 10, 2000 at 12:43:17:
Hmmm... sorta like asking how many angels can dance on the head of a pin. It all depends. Crosman listed anywhere from a max of 4 to a max of 8. But, it really is hard to overpump a 101 to the point that you can hurt it. The valve is not going to fail from over pumping. And, with the external hammer, it's impossible to lock up. What it comes down to is the performance of the gun. At the point where the valve cannot release all the air with each shot then you either need a better hammer spring or you need to ease up on the number of pumps. Or, just use common sense. That is, when the pumping starts to get really hard, quit. With some guns this might be 6 or 8 or 9 or 10, it all depends. Like I said, how many angels...
DT Fletcher
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In Reply to: Where's the best place to buy a BSA SS? (NT) posted by Mom T on August 10, 2000 at 15:40:34:
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In Reply to: Re: BSA old springer early 1900's... posted by Jack Riddle on August 10, 2000 at 20:31:55:
BSA 53,000 serial number range is 1912 - 1915.
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In Reply to: Coriolis effect? posted by Joe Matusic, MD on August 07, 2000 at 14:11:15:
Yup, that's how I understand it. When a pellet (or bullet) clears the muzzle it switches from rotation about it's mechanical axis to about it's center of mass. If they are one and the same (not possible), no problem.
Otherwise, the bigger the difference, the larger the 'hop' to one side. If there is enough energy in the twist, this is countered by taking some of that energy in the from of 'precession' (at 90 degrees to the hop), which results in a circle. Frictional losses cause the circle to close in (the pellet to 'spiral' in) until it "goes to sleep". In benchrest guns this can be many feet out. For service rifles, it's measured with 'yaw cards' every yard or so when evaluating ammunition. If the twist is fast enough, given proper bullet design, a serious imbalance (from some internal flaw) can be tolerated without a 'flyer'. Accuracy is best with high quality bullets (and therefore little hop), of course.
Too fast a twist is also bad, due to it's ability to amplify the imbalance, effecting the degree of 'sleep' it can attain. This not only opens groups, but tends to lower them at longer ranges.
Doug Owen
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In Reply to: Schematic for Crossman 760. posted by Eric on August 11, 2000 at 11:42:59:
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In Reply to: Re: BSA old springer early 1900's... posted by Jack Riddle on August 10, 2000 at 20:31:55:
According to Knibbs, 53,000 range covers 1912 to 1925. No detail on .22 vs. .177, most are standard pattern with some light pattern thrown in, with a very few junior patterns.
Not sure if you can really determine value without seeing the gun. Standard BSA Improved Model D starts at about $200 and can go up from there. As I stated before, condition is extremely important.
The only information on these guns that is generally available is the book by Knibbs, it has some diagrams that should help.
dt fletcher
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In Reply to: Re: Hey Dave,Thanks good luck at Nationals_nt. posted by Art on August 11, 2000 at 13:17:44:
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In Reply to: Sheridan w/ red-dot? posted by Patrick on August 10, 2000 at 14:35:06:
I had used the B272 Crosman mounts to mount a Tech Force 96 on my Steroid 392 and it worked pretty well. I was able to mount it as forward as I wanted because there was no eye relief on the red dot. It would probably do better with the I-Mount that Mac1 sells. However I was very happy in general with the performance of the red dot and it did not get in the way because of its small size. That was the one thing that kept me from putting a regular scope on it was the fact that it might intefere with the pumping. Good luck.
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In Reply to: Crosman 357-6 repairs? posted by Patrick on August 11, 2000 at 13:16:54:
There are certainly places that can take your parts and assemble it into a pistol. My guess is that it will cost probably what it would cost to just buy another one. The 357-6 is not a particularly rare gun, in fact there are probably millions of them.
What you may want to consider is calling Crosman and requesting the schematics. They will send them out for free and then you would have a blueprint to go from with the parts. It could be a lot of fun.
If you would prefer sending the parts out, I would recommend Precision Pellet in PA or Mac-1 in CA.
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In Reply to: Re: Schematic for Crossman 760. posted by john from NY on August 11, 2000 at 12:42:50:
They also have an 800 number where you can talk directly with them. They will send out any requested manual or schematics very quickly. I have done it on several occassions and they have always sent it out first class mail.
I don't have the 800 number handy, but it is found on their web page.
In Reply to: " Huh? Somethings never change " posted by vZc® on August 11, 2000 at 13:08:02:
Ohhhh, see somethings never change!
Regards,
Craig
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1. Has anyone ever used the Daisy 400gx? What did you think?
2. How much do CO2 Powerlets cost?
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In Reply to: Re: Hey Dave posted by DaveG on August 11, 2000 at 11:47:41:
nt.
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I just acquired (ok, it was given to me) a pile of parts that used to be a Crosman 357-6. The previous owner thought I might be able to put it back together, since he couldn't. I've looked at it and had no luck, and I'm not even sure if the parts are all there. It's not like the parts are junked or anything, it's relatively new looking but disassembled. Is it worth sending to someone to get it put back in shooting order? Where might I send it? Thanks for any advice.
Patrick
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In Reply to: Re: " Like I said " posted by Swinson on August 11, 2000 at 11:41:43:
i provided the url to the IC3 product home page.
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In Reply to: Looking for my first gun... posted by byrd on August 11, 2000 at 12:48:56:
Look at the Crosman 2240 for about $40.00. That's as low as
anything I would trust.
BW
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In Reply to: Reusable CO2 cartridges - anyone tried the Brocock Air Capsules??? posted by TinkerMan on August 11, 2000 at 11:45:52:
You can get an awful lot of CO2 cart's for that US$62.50, plus shipping.
And you don't have to pump 'em.
BW
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I was wondering if you guys could suggest me a good first gun. I'm looking for a pistol for plinking and target shooting. I dont want really to spend any more than $30.00.
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In Reply to: Hey Career Owners - is a 707 .22 on low power too loud to shoot in a large basement? posted by TinkerMan on August 11, 2000 at 12:02:23:
I did not have my mods done by Tim, but will assume that they are basically the same... On the lowest power setting my 707 won't even fire, at one or two clicks up from there, I can shoot it in my living room without a problem... maybe 400-500fps and just a Phfpt of a sound... Another two clicks up from that and it sounds like a canon...
Regards,
DaveG
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In Reply to: Schematic for Crossman 760. posted by Eric on August 11, 2000 at 11:42:59:
Crosman might be able to provide you with one. They have great customer service if you e-mail them.
-john from NY
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In Reply to: My new neighbors posted by Curt on August 09, 2000 at 15:51:19:
Your neighbors obviously don't want you to shoot. Can you do so legally? Well, as others have said, you'll need to read local ordinances and stuff to make sure.
But, my BEST GUESS is that, once you do that, you'll find you can. Why do I say that? If there were an ordinance against you shooting on your property, your neighbors would already have identified it for you and would already have used it to further their efforts to stop you from shooting. Since they didn't cite any ordinance in their "petition" I bet that there isn't one in your area.
But, you need to make sure.
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In Reply to: Re: Hakko Scopes posted by Swinson on August 11, 2000 at 11:55:58:
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In Reply to: Noise Neighbors - PCPs vs. R9 vs. Cr 160 posted by BrianW on August 11, 2000 at 11:14:48:
My unfinished basement has a really long room - basically from one end of the house to the other. Is a Career 707 in .22 too loud to shoot indoors? Assume that it's a Career 707 that Mac1 modifies so that the power can be dialed down.
Thanks.
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In Reply to: Re: Noise Neighbors - PCPs vs. R9 vs. Cr 160 posted by matt sudol on August 11, 2000 at 11:57:27:
Not without an adapter...or so I have been told. And would only be "moderately" effective. (get it, moderately....moderator...HA! I slay me!)
Regards,
Craig
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In Reply to: I think you're right on the other guy's problem - .... posted by BrianW on August 11, 2000 at 11:55:29:
I was just sort of testing that last night, I'm at the inlaws and they have to jumpy dogs and shooting an R-9, a hurricane, and a stalker...they don't even flinch and they bark at EVERYTHING, I mean a mouse could pass wind and they would let you know.
Regards,
Craig
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In Reply to: Noise Neighbors - PCPs vs. R9 vs. Cr 160 posted by BrianW on August 11, 2000 at 11:14:48:
Would an Axsor "silencer" decible moderator fit in a .22 career?
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In Reply to: Hakko Scopes posted by Brett on August 11, 2000 at 11:43:45:
Combat Military Optics
Good stuff, as well there is a guy Paulo on AG that can get you any Hakko you want.
Regards,
Craig
In Reply to: Career posted by matt sudol on August 11, 2000 at 09:43:07:
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In Reply to: Re: Noise Neighbors - PCPs vs. R9 vs. Cr 160 posted by Swinson on August 11, 2000 at 11:50:15:
I believe the complaint on noise is a cover-up. My bet is that if his neighbors didn't SEE him shooting, the noise would NOT bother them.
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In Reply to: Gamo P-23 posted by Fabio on August 11, 2000 at 04:27:23:
I have shot tree squirrels with the 1008 at 30 yards only once though and was a stunt infront of my friends. I hit it with a 7.9 grain cp and knocked it right out of the tree it hit the ground stayed there for about a min then jumped up on all fours and ran off. I am almost 100% sure I only knocked the wind out of it because there was no blood what so ever. My advice to you is get a crosman 2240 bolt action .22 caliber and lots of power. Squirrels out to 30 yards and KILL them.
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In Reply to: Noise Neighbors - PCPs vs. R9 vs. Cr 160 posted by BrianW on August 11, 2000 at 11:14:48:
LOUD. Dialed down think like .22 short....dialed up think like 22 LR or worse (esp in the carbine) In the long rifle it's still pretty loud, not the best way to meet the folks that live by you.
Actually the way your house is set up and considering that you'll be shooting into the wood(?) I think the long rifle on a lower power setting won't be too bad. Heavier pellets help contain the sound as well.
As for the R-9...most of the sound is near your ear (the action) the rest I can't really help you with.
I've sort of wondered about that other guys problem...it's damn hard to hear an R-9 or a tempest over a fence or past say 30 feet...I would imagine it's the visual impact v. the sound..and they are just saying it's the sound so they don't say "we hate guns"
Regards,
Craig
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In Reply to: BSA or R9 posted by Pepi on August 10, 2000 at 21:07:00:
Pepi
I own an R9 in .20 and love the thing. I am getting a Superstar this afternoon, I hope. They say it should be delivered today. I'll let you know. When Precision Sales wrote me to give me the shipping details they told me to be impressed with the rifle. I hope so.
Gary
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In Reply to: Re: Hey Dave posted by Art on August 11, 2000 at 11:36:39:
The pumps do have a purge chamber in them, but in high humidity environments it could be depatable how effective they are... As I have stated, I have been using a pump to fill my 707's for quite some time, and have gone ahead into the guns to check for any signs of a problem, as i really don't want to blow myself up either... To date I have found NO signs of moisture inside any of my guns...
If there was a huge potential for catastrophic failure i seriously doupt that a company like Axsor would market the things...
I will agree that the air from a scube tank is probably better(drier) but the pumps work just fine...
regards,
DaveG
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While doing some research in anticipation of a possible purchase of a Walther CP88 or CP99, I came across the website below that describes a refillable air cartridge that can be used in place of a Co2 cartridge. Takes 60-80 strokes with a "slim jim" hand pump (whatever that is) or can, apparently, be filled with a divers bottle.
The claim is that it works on any CO2 gun where the cartridge is hooked up to the valve mechanism (as opposed to where the cartridge fills up a large internal chamber).
Anyone tried this out? The way I go through CO2 cartridges, I'm wondering whether this might be something worth considering on things like my Crosman 2250B and 2240.
Any first hand info appreciated. If you've not heard about it, check out the website below.
I understand ABO USA in Miami is the importer for Hakko scopes in the US, but I also remember a distributor out of Georgia with on-line info about these scopes. Anyone remember who that is? Thanks for the help.
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I am in desperate need of a crossman power master 760 parts schematic. If anyone can direct me to one, I would greatly appreciate it.
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In Reply to: Re: BEST RIFLE SO FAR posted by Swinson on August 11, 2000 at 10:37:55:
That's the way it has always worked for me, either air guns or firearms.
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In Reply to: " Like I said " posted by vZc® on August 11, 2000 at 11:33:25:
Huh? Somethings never change.
Regards,
Craig
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In Reply to: Looking for tuned springer posted by FredC on August 10, 2000 at 09:07:16:
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In Reply to: Hey Dave posted by Andrew on August 11, 2000 at 10:40:15:
I have the scuba adapter from ARS so my Fill hose and gauge works on both the scuba tank & Hand pump. MAC-1 also makes adapters that uses quick fittings so they can be used on any PCP(with correct adapter).
Question I was asking was do the Hand pumps produce water so as rusting occurs. I do not want 3000 PSI rifle to spring a leak or blow out.
At one time there were several post saying to use only scuba as it is dry air. Think out the water in an ordinary shop air compressor at 125 PSI then think about at 3000 PSI. I thought that the hand pumps had a filter in them or you use the breed valve on the pump to purge the water. Know I am only confused.
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In Reply to: Re: " New version will, IC3 does " [url] posted by Swinson on August 11, 2000 at 10:34:16:
tis " what i'd say "
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In Reply to: It's called the Pioneer posted by Tom Gaylord on August 11, 2000 at 11:13:33:
That is it exactly, thanks for the refresher!
Wow, I guess I should have kept it in the box when I had one. I think I paid $19.95 at KMart for it. I also did the length of pull down and refitted the buttplate for my son back then.
Doubt if he still has it....I'll have to ask him tomorrow when he visits. I had forgotten it until the Kadet post.
thanks, Jack
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In Reply to: Noise Neighbors - PCPs vs. R9 vs. Cr 160 posted by BrianW on August 11, 2000 at 11:14:48:
My high power (1000+fps)Tanker in 22 is as loud as my 22 MAGNUM rifle. No kidding. You need a thingy on the muzzle to help. One reason I like my R9/R10s. quiet is nice. alan in ga
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In Reply to: Career posted by matt sudol on August 11, 2000 at 09:43:07:
If you are considering a 9mm why not go for the gold ? If 9mm is good 44 has got to be better.
Saver 909 Big Bore 44 see it at.................
http://airpower.welcomeyou.com
I own all 3 707 .22, 9mm, and the 44
Bob
I regularly shoot an R9 and a Cr160 in my backyard. To date, no neighbor has complained and may not even know that I'm shooting. (Because we are at the end of a cul-de-sac (and have 10+ acres of woods behind us), our neighbors are not directly next to our house and are not real close (and can't see into our back yard unless they go deep into their back yard and look back)).
I'm thinking about getting a PCP (probably a Career but perhaps a Rapid 12, etc.), but I'm worried about the SOUND and don't want to experience the types of neighbor problems discussed earlier this week in this form. Assuming I get the power mod by Mac1 (which makes it less powerful), how noisy are these?
If possible, so that I have a frame of reference, can you let me know by comparing the noise of a Career (or other PCP) to an R9 or a QB78 or a Crosman 160? Is a Career a lot noisier or about the same or even quieter on a low power setting?
THANKS IN ADVANCE!
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In Reply to: Speaking of odd BB guns...... posted by JS on August 11, 2000 at 10:39:35:
Jack,
It was a Pioneer from Ultra-Hi. I did an article on them in "Airgun Revue #6." They were produced for the Bicentennial, then didn't sell well.
The gun is an underlever spring gun. It uses a copy of Daisy's #25 forced-feed shot tube. You have to cock the hammer to fire the gun, though the hammer appears to be separate from everything else.
If you want one new in the box, e-mail me. They are getting harder to find, and the boxed ones are very difficult to find. The unboxed ones usually go for $110-150 at airgun shows.
Regards,
Tom Gaylord
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In Reply to: THE OLD VERSUS THE NEW? posted by TLUCKIE on August 11, 2000 at 11:01:49:
If in fact there is a difference in power output (and not just difference in sound)
then either your new gun is bad or the old gun was modified.
All versions of the Sheridan "streaks/C's" are rated the same in FPS.
IMO the oldr guns were definatley made to a higher standard, but the power remains
constant in all versions.
Later
Larz
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In Reply to: Re: Hello, I just got a Gamo Realtree 440 Hunter posted by Cry havok on August 09, 2000 at 13:51:33:
I got the C-mount from Cabelas, but a lot of other places offer them like
Straight Shooters & AirgunExpress. Also, I've found that RWS Supermags shoot
the best in my 440. Zeroed at 18 yards, it shoots flat out to 35. One of my
friends could shoot a 1.5 inch swinging disk at 50 yards consistently with my
setup (but I couldn't). Also Crosman Premiere heavies shoot well too.
A lot of people here don't like Gamo's but don't let that discourage you. I've
gotten a lot of ground squirrels with the Gamo setup and other pest birds out to
30 yards consistently. It's not as nice as my Beeman R1, but then again the
Gamo was 1/3 the price!
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In Reply to: How to blow a seal in 3 easy steps posted by Zero on August 11, 2000 at 09:49:43:
I had a co2 pistol. It never would hold pressure if it was stored with a powerlet. In the end I gave up and shot each powerlet empty before putting it away.
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I just purchases a new Sheridan C9. Can anyone tell me why my father's older model (about 45 years old) only requires five pumps, while the newer model takes ten to get the same kind of thump?
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In Reply to: How to blow a seal in 3 easy steps posted by Zero on August 11, 2000 at 09:49:43:
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In Reply to: Re: Tech Force Scope posted by PJ on August 11, 2000 at 02:36:46:
If these are BSA scopes they are fine scopes for >22 cal. ctg. rifles also.
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I'm looking for a scope that is good for hunting and plinking. I'd like it to be priced under $100.
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In Reply to: " but it does not work with W2k Pro " posted by vZc® on August 10, 2000 at 22:49:16:
Won't copy the needed security files properly then you have an image that won't allow you access to the OS.
Regards,
Craig
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In Reply to: Swinson , How many shots ????? posted by Derrin on August 10, 2000 at 22:42:41:
The gun does not have a regulator but filled to 2800 PSI or so I get about 40 real good shots at about 17FPE...I've tinkered with that gun a LOT as before I would get like 50 shots but they were not all "good shots" like only 25 or so at the same power. Now if I need it I can get it to 20 FPE at about 30 shots, or 60 at 12 FPE (too slow)
Regards,
Craig
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In Reply to: Hey Dave posted by Andrew on August 11, 2000 at 10:40:15:
The pump has a threaded fitting for a standard DIN type adapter, and there are tons of hardware pieces out there that will fit it. I have a standard DIN to scuba adapter on mine, so I can use any number of charging clamps on it... The same clamps that go on a scuba tank will also fit on this set up, so if you have a clamp for the talon, it would work on the pump...
Regards,
DaveG
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In Reply to: Re: Axsor Type pumps Safe? posted by DaveG on August 11, 2000 at 10:30:36:
Does the Axsor pump work on other guns besides the 707? Will it work on a the Airtalon?
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Back around 1978 or so, I bought my eldest son his first BB gun. At the time, I was heavy into flintlock shooting. So to get him into the swing of "Buckskinning", I bought him a BB gun that looked like a percussion cap muzzleloader. Then made a hunting pouch for him and a powder horn to hold his BB's in. It wasn't dad's flintlock .50 Tennessee, but he loved it.
Does anyone recall these guns? They weren't expensive, I don't remember the maker. It was full stocked and had an underlever hidden in the forearm. Basic Daisy type innards, magazine/barrel attached to the screw-on end cap.
Mine shot to high and left due to barrel angle.
The neat thing was you had to cock the external dummy percussion hammer to fire the gun. It really was cool for the little guy back then.
Anyone know what it was I had? It's long since gone.
tia- Jack
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In Reply to: Re: BEST RIFLE SO FAR posted by M Boyle on August 11, 2000 at 02:31:52:
Heck every day I see a new gun that I like...one that I don't have....isn't that the way it's supposed to be?
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Craig
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In Reply to: Strange way to start the the day posted by Russ Best on August 10, 2000 at 20:18:56:
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In Reply to: " New version will, IC3 does " [url] posted by vZc® on August 10, 2000 at 22:58:17:
Like I said IC3 does.
Regards,
Craig
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In Reply to: Re: Problem with linseed oil stock finish posted by Mikael on August 10, 2000 at 17:31:32:
Mikael,
Thanks. Based on your information I will wait 3-4 weeks (giving allowance to our humidity in Texas) until I consider alternatives.
Regards,
Michael
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In Reply to: Kadet Trainer BB Rifle, Paris Mfg. Co., Savannah, Tenn. posted by Rene Sevilla on August 11, 2000 at 02:01:51:
Unfortunately, I don't know what it's worth....but I had one when I was a kid!
Kadet made all sorts of odd wooden guns back in the 60's (and later). A lot of them were just dummy stuff...small Garands and such. They had a whole organization where you could start your own Kadet drill team..uniforms and everything. If I recall correctly, they even had a military acadamy once. This was the early/mid 60's..things were much different then....WWII had only been 20 years prior. People thought differently. Hey....the USSR was about to invade! :-)
I bought a Kadet BB rifle (like you have) as a backup to my Crosman V300 pistol...when I was maybe 9 or 10. It shot well....very Daisy-like.
Earlier, I had a cool Kadet corkball "musket". It was a true percussion cap cork gun. You'd load it with a cork roundball rammed down the smoothbore barrel....then place a "Greenie Stickum Cap" on under the percussion lock hammer. The blast of the cap would shoot the cork ball about 15-20 feet. They also sold the balls separately.
Hey, I was only 7 or 8 at the time and it was cool then. Later versions put a guard on the muzzle and deleted the cork ball shooting completely.
Thanks for the memories.....Jack
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In Reply to: Axsor Type pumps Safe? posted by Art on August 11, 2000 at 09:14:56:
The only guns I have seen anybody posting on that have had a problem with the pump were the Rapids(I think)...
I've been using a pump for quite some time on my 707's, and have also been inside them bunches of times,and have found no problems...
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In Reply to: Pre-chared rifle post purchase question... posted by Chazzz on August 10, 2000 at 23:23:06:
Chazz,
When "The Airgun Letter" was forced (by our readers) into buying our first PCP rifle, I felt much like you do now. I was a confirmed spring-gun fan and VERY leery of scuba tanks, charging devices and so on. Still, if we were going to be an airgun publication, I had to look into them.
We bought a used Daystate Huntsman from Jim Maccari and sent it to Rodney Boyce for modifications. That was all reported in the newsletter back in 1995. I overcame my fears when I realized that a PCP gun is just a Sheridan with no pump attached and a larger reservoir (please, no nasty notes fron Streak owners - I'm just trying to make a small point here).
The Daystate was a nice gun, plus it gave me a close look at the company, which makes some of the best and certainly some of the most reliable PCP guns on the market. But it wasn't until I bought our second PCP rifle, a Career 707, that things really clicked!
The rest is history, as they say, except that many who read this forum are not suscribers to the newsletter, so let me elaborate. I have now written 12 articles (I think) on the 707/Shin Sung family of PCP guns. That includes the Fire 201 shotgun and all the various Career mods, like regulators, trigger mods and Alan Zasadny's work. I find the basic .22-caliber 707 to be stone-reliable, dead accurate and lots of fun to own and shoot. I can work the lever of mine almost as fast as the Rifleman and still hit 2-inch targets offhand at 50 yards. That's plinking in rapid-fire, not shooting off a bench. But off the bench, I have shot a 0.329" five shot group at 50 yards.
We have also covered a number of other hot new PCP guns in the newsletter - enough that the list is too long to print here. We were the ones to blow the cover off the poorly-built and enormously inaccurate $2,250 Stealth arrow launcher/pellet rifle from Swivel Machine Corp. [NOT the gunpower Stealth, which is a fine PCP gun].
What I'm trying to say is, we've been around the PCP block. Now, people complain that we spend too much time on PCPs and don't give spring guns a chance! The irony of that is, I wrote the R1 book!
In all our tests, the Career 707 always emerges as the best all-around PCP airgun. Get it tuned to low power to shoot Premiers at 800 f.p.s. on the lowest setting, or have Tim at Mac-1 convert it for you to this power level. Get it in .22 caliber and enjoy. That is our pick for the best PCP rifle today.
Regards,
Tom Gaylord
The Airgun Letter
staff@airgunletter.net
http://www.airgunletter.net
http://www.airgunletter.com
In Reply to: Career posted by matt sudol on August 11, 2000 at 09:43:07:
I know many may dissagree with this, but...
I kinda feel the 9mm is a novelty... Awesome in power, and accurate enough to do what you are asking about... It just is not anywhere near as versitile as the .22 707. So, if I had to pick, I'd take the .22 707 hands down. it has enough power to do those varmits, is accurate enough to do target work, and adjustable enough to shoot indoors...
Regards,
DaveG
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In Reply to: what kind of velocity increase from Mac-1 rebuild of 160 valve? And cost Thanks (NT) posted by Stanley Kowalski on August 11, 2000 at 09:27:50:
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In Reply to: FOR JASON does the p23 have a 3/8 " dovetail????? posted by s[i]lencer on August 09, 2000 at 23:46:13:
The P23 has a groove, but not exactly a dovetail. I measures slightly less that 3/8"
-Zero
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In Reply to: Pre-chared rifle post purchase question... posted by Chazzz on August 10, 2000 at 23:23:06:
Dave's Airgun Service is selling the Sam Yang rifles (3 models) for $275-$360 + S&H. He's clearing them out so when they're gone, you missed it. ARS has sold at least one of these guns for a lot more $$$. Sounds like a good deal to me. his address: airgunserv@aol.com
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In Reply to: How to blow a seal in 3 easy steps posted by Zero on August 11, 2000 at 09:49:43:
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In Reply to: Re: GAMO P23 Question.... posted by s[i]lencer on August 09, 2000 at 21:53:03:
The screw in the grip is just a plastic molded decoration. If you try and unscrew it, you'll just phuck up the plastic.
-Zero
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Any of you know where to get one?
Thanks a bunch.
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In Reply to: Re: Strange way to start the the day posted by Roy on August 11, 2000 at 09:43:42:
There were some cats in our neighborhood that some fed but nobody laid claim to. Then the cats had litters of kittens, and we were overrun by cats with no collars, no shots, no ownership. The ligustrums and crape myrtles that I nursed from one gallon containers became scratching posts and several died; we would be awakened in the middle of the night thinking someone was on our roof but it turned out to be a 15 lb cat, there was a fight in our driveway one early morning that sounded like an axe murder, .....you get the idea.
Still, I don't blame the animals. It's the "owners".
Ooops. Forgot that this was this an airgun forum.
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In Reply to: Re: RWS 54 is this a good gun ? posted by Bob Miller on August 11, 2000 at 01:16:31:
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In Reply to: Gamo P-23 posted by Fabio on August 11, 2000 at 04:27:23:
Dunno, but I can drop a tree rat (squirrel) with mine at about 9 yards.
-Zero
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The manual of my P-23 says not to leave a CO2 cartridge in the gun for "an extended period of time." Exactly how long can I leave the cartridge in there? What'll happen if I leave it in too long?
-Zero
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I'm talking to a guy about a Benjamin 347 -- checkered stock -- which he says that he "oiled up" for his kids. Described oil blowby past the bolt into his face the first time that he fired it after oiling. Says that he can only pump it up to "about" five times ("very hard on last pump"), but that it WILL fire.
Questions-- Is the 347 as sensitive to oiling as the 397 is? Are Benjamins as sensitive to the TYPE of oil used as some other airguns?
What could be limiting the number of pumps -- especially where the gun will fire -- other than hesitation to muscle in the last three pumps?
Is the blowby a problem? Can this be adjusted out? Or would it indicate that the seal is bad?
I assume that the B 347 is pre-Crosman. What years for production?
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In Reply to: Derrin Derrin Derrin posted by Steve in CT on August 11, 2000 at 07:17:26:
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In Reply to: Strange way to start the the day posted by Russ Best on August 10, 2000 at 20:18:56:
I'm sorry to hear it, but this can also serve as a "wakeup call" to irresponsible pet owners.
Pet owners have the responsibility to keep their pets safe and secure. If the poor pooch's owner had kept him in the yard, or at least collared and tagged, this may not have happened.
I'm not excusing the jerk who did it. I'm just suggesting that the dog's owner might possibly prevented the tragedy.
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What would you preffer 9mm or .22 for all around shooting like raccoons , possom , and varmints of that size at 50 yards?
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In Reply to: WHICH IS BETTER? posted by T LUCKIE on August 10, 2000 at 10:49:22:
you get the full treatment from Mac1. From what I understand, he replaces some plastic parts with metal parts and that makes them as good as the old ones (that had no plastic parts).
But, his treatment changes some things. You have to cock the guns first and then pump. That can take some getting used to if, like me, you've done it thousands of times the other way.
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In Reply to: Will everyone please post the URL for their personal Airgun site? posted by Josh P. on August 10, 2000 at 16:50:34:
I mostly have pictures of my woodworking products. I did post some pictures fo the 1998 Winston Salem Airgun Show and the 1999 Roanoke show. I have yet to place pictures of my guns on the web.
In Reply to: Re: Webley FX2000 vs Daystate Huntsman? posted by REB on August 11, 2000 at 00:47:42:
What kind of group sizes are you getting from the PH6?
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In Reply to: Pump up is OK posted by DougWall on August 10, 2000 at 15:06:28:
I had no idea of some of these things. I'm a responsible adult and you've given me some things to think about before I'll decide to get a PCP.
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In Reply to: Fun Supply update posted by James Kitching on August 10, 2000 at 20:57:51:
Norton Ghost is good, but it's not free and not all that cheap.
A cheaper alternative is to use on the new hard drive preparation utilities that come with new hard drives. Maxtor, Quantum, IBM, all offer these (although some use Ontrack's Disk Manager). If you recently purchased a new hard drive, use the software that came with the new hard drive to copy the old hard drive sector by sector to the new one. If you don't have this software, go to the website of the manufacturer of the hard drive(s) that you do have, download the setup programs and see if they'll work with your older drive by that manufacturer. They probably will and they work GREAT!
I have installed several new hard drives (always going up in space) on several computers, work and home, in the last year, and each time I've used the setup software to transfer files from one drive to the other and it has always worked perfectly and fast.
You can even copy an entire "boot" (or "C drive") to a new hard drive and when you swap out the new hard drive for the other one your computer will boot up perfectly.
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I see a lot of post telling people to use the Axsor hand pump for PCP airguns.
When I was looking for a PCP I too was given this advice to buy the pump first.
I did that and as soon as it arrived several posts appeared on the forum including some from airsmiths stating that the Axsor pump introduced water into the airgun and would cause rusting.
Some said to only use pump in air conditioned room with set humidity to reduce this.
So how about a poll on this issue?
Are these pumps OK?
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In Reply to: Which better, Gamo Hunter 440 or Beeman R9 posted by Cry Havok on August 10, 2000 at 17:29:06:
nt
In Reply to: 50 yard targets posted by matt sudol on August 10, 2000 at 20:49:53:
Bob Winer sells them for airguns and I think he sells
the .22 as well. His are made from all steel as opposed
to the alloy targets that Crosman sells.
By the way, the proper distances in yards are:
Airgun .22 Rimfire
Chicken: 20 40
Pig: 30 60
Turkey: 36 77 (I think)
Ram: 45 100
In Reply to: How do I choose between the 3 different WALTHER co2 pistols? posted by TinkerMan on August 11, 2000 at 08:17:24:
Tink,
If you want to hit anything beyond 6M, eliminate the PPK/S from your choices. The 3.5 in. smoothbore barrel with steel BBs is not very accurate and it only shoots about 260 fps.
Of the other two, I really like the CP-99 better. It's more for the money. It' factory- sighted for 10m while the CP-88 shoots 6-10 in. high at 10m. It's really accurate for a 3in. barrel.
Good luck, G.J.
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In Reply to: Strange way to start the the day posted by Russ Best on August 10, 2000 at 20:18:56:
G'day Russ
Sorry to hear of your day, hard to thing of someone so cales(sp). To shot a dog is bad but why put it in a shopping cart 'don't know about some people but dickheads are everywhere.
I had a neiboures dog that would do a dump just in front of mt steps ,or on my footpath. I would get pissed and think of what I would do to it but, it was just a mad thought that I knew I wouldn't do. Guess that's a bit of sanity I have left. damn I hate typeing
daisy
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In Reply to: Who sells Alros in the States ??????nt. posted by Derrin on August 10, 2000 at 22:47:37:
Check with Pamona Airguns, Steve should be able to help you, even though he does't stock them.
Bob
In Reply to: Perfect gun posted by Swinson on August 10, 2000 at 22:31:27:
Craig, you are close on the 707... E-mail me and I'll give you the run down on where that is at...
I can actually get you set up right now, with the exception of one piece, that will have to follow later... But, you can still get the thing out there to use...
I sent one out to a guy to finish himself, and when he first got it he was telling me that he didn't think it was going to suite his particular style that well, and maybe this, or maybe that...
He spent about a week playing with the thing, and by the time he got it mounted on the gun he was telling me how freakin' perfect it was!
Regards,
DaveG
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general answers for most questions, has a 10m focus, but applicable to all airguns
There are (at least) 3 different Walther pistols that are available. All 3 are offered right now on Gunbroker. See, for example,
http://www.gunbroker.com/auction/ViewItem.asp?item=439874
http://www.gunbroker.com/auction/ViewItem.asp?item=434529
http://www.gunbroker.com/auction/ViewItem.asp?item=434608
One (the PPK) seems to sell in the $65 range (and may be BBs only with a 15 shot clip). Another (the CP99) is in the $130 range and is .177 pellets (8 shot clip) and the last (CP88) is in the $159 range (and I think is also pellets with an 8 shot clip).
Can anyone offer opinions on which one of these three would be the best for PURE FUN - plinking (shooting at cans, not precision target shooting)?
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In Reply to: Anyone else having problems getting Auction Arms to come up?Nt. posted by darmtn on August 11, 2000 at 00:09:11:
Came up OK for me
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I'm thinking about buying a Gold Cup CO2 pistol (probably from Golden Toller)
Does anyone have experience with this gun (accuracy, quality, etc) ?
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In Reply to: Re: Source of Crosman 160 posted by tommy on August 10, 2000 at 23:56:48:
NT
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In Reply to: Re: Source of Crosman 160 posted by tommy on August 10, 2000 at 23:56:48:
I don't know why they waited so long from when my order was placed. I ordered over the net, got an e-mail confirm back that same day and had given up on the order. In fact, I bid on one on gunbroker.com and actually got it in hand in the interim, but now I have 2! Incidentally, the trigger on the CMP is the better one (type 3) while the one from gunbroker is the type 2.
The CMP stock is not as nice as the other one I got, but I may change my mind once I get it really cleaned up.
I think my seals would still work, but I also plan to send to Tim at Mac1 for bulk treatment and his valve rebuild magic.
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In Reply to: Re: Source of Crosman 160 posted by Steve B. on August 10, 2000 at 23:25:55:
Thanks for the info. I'm not real sure how the sling supplied is supposed to be hooked up. I haven't looked at the leather close enough to know if it'll crack when I start to use it. I may substitute for something else.
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In Reply to: Re: Fun Supply update posted by Steve B. on August 10, 2000 at 23:47:10:
If you remove the backup drive, just set the CMOS parameters for D: to "AUTO".
That way, when you boot up, the bios will check to see what's hooked up to that channel. Beats changing the parameters every time you use the drive.
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In Reply to: Will everyone please post the URL for their personal Airgun site? posted by Josh P. on August 10, 2000 at 16:50:34:
Buy some silicone slot car tires while you are there....I need a PCP.
Jack
In Reply to: Steve in CT, and Dave G. ........... Now I'm sick !!!!!!! posted by Derrin on August 10, 2000 at 18:38:48:
I own both of them too. It just happened that I own the Career many times over. IF I HAD TO STAY WITH ONE GUN the Supertwelve would be on its way fast. Why? "cause the Career is f... OWESOME.
How so? I could with the click of a wheel get a mighty shot should the opportunity present itself for an 80 ft-lb shot. At the same power levels the S-12 is louder. much louder and if you want to be legal it's the way to go. The lever action is smooth as hell and much faster. Accuracy? I don't use either one of them for FT but if you are a crow at 75 yards, don't stand in frond of my Career. Moneywise? Career a lot cheaper.
LOOKS? no comparison.
So please don't burn it. Just send it to me. It will join the rest of its cousins. There is life after the S-12 you know hehehe
Regards
Steve
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In Reply to: I buy a lot of them posted by JS on August 11, 2000 at 07:09:30:
Sorry,
The Daisy 717 is single stroke pnuematic.
The Ben Franklin is multi-pump pnue.
The V300 is spring piston.
I also have a Crosman 1377 .177 caliber that is multi-pump.
The point is though: inexpensive air pistols are FUN! Don't be put off if all you read is about high dollar airguns....there are a lot of us shooting regular stuff and having a ball.
Jack
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In Reply to: Will a standard tarp do as a backdrop for a 350fps pistol? posted by Crane on August 10, 2000 at 22:04:42:
nope.
Look in the dumpster behind carpet stores for remnants. Layer them 3-4 deep. Berber should work best.
HTH
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In Reply to: um doesnt ANYONE buy co2 pistols that arent match grade????? posted by -=me=- on August 10, 2000 at 21:43:41:
Here are a few with their clone lineage in parenthesis;
Crosman 38T .22 (S&W)
Crosman 38C .22 (S&W)
Crosman 44 Peacemaker .22 (Colt S/A)
Crosman 3576GT .177 (Python)
Crosman 1008 .177 (S&W)
Crosman 338 BB (Walter P38)
Walther PPK/S BB (Walther PPK)
Gamo P23 .177/BB (Sig)
Daisy Raven 500 .177 (Beretta)
And I also buy non-clones;
Daisy 717 .177
Crosman 2240 .22
Crosman 1740 .177
Crosman SSP250 .177
Crosman V300 BB
Ben Franklin 132 .22
The "POS Pistol Shoot" done via email is the perfect way to play with things like these in a match.
Jack
In Reply to: SW 78G @ $495 posted by darmtn on August 11, 2000 at 03:26:42:
I've got one I tried to sell for $120.00 and got no responses. So I guess even @120.00 is to high. Anyone have any idea what a reasonable price to ask would be??? The gun has all new seals and is in very good condition.
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I know that there are but a select few out there that have had the privilege of owning and/or shooting a powerful AND very accurate big bore air rifle such as the Rendezvous 44, etc. If someone has, I'd sure love to hear of your impressions, experiences, 100 - 200 yard groupings, etc. If you don't want to post, an e-mail would be great. Thanks.
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In Reply to: Fun Supply update posted by James Kitching on August 10, 2000 at 20:57:51:
It will make an exact copy of a drive as an image. You can restore the drive from the image in a few minutes. I have two drive in my main system. One drive has an "image" of the other drive. Total down time is reduced to minutes.
Check my website at http://techsite.cjb.net/
The thumbnails on that site do not work but the photos do. Look at the article on building a computer (towards the end of it) because there is a brief description of Ghost.
HTH
In Reply to: Gamo P-23 posted by Fabio on August 11, 2000 at 04:27:23:
Fun plinker but the gun lacks sufficient punch to assure a kill. My neighbor will shoot rats with his 1008 (approx. 30 fps greater than the P-23) and beyond 15 feet or so it sometimes fails to even penetrate. Shot to shot the power varies. Can't recommend hunting with it.
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Link below
Hi,I have a Gamo P-23 and I use it with "Tasco mini red dot" and Meisterkugeln pellet (8,2 gr.).
I want to know which should be my max range for to kill a rat with head shot.
Regards,Fabio.
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In Reply to: Driveimage works best..... posted by Uncle Gary on August 10, 2000 at 23:26:42:
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"It will copy an exact image of your HD, including the boot section and all hidden system files, to another hard drive, all automatically. Doesn't matter what the operating system is either. I've used it a bunch and really like it".
I agree with Uncle Gary. I used to use a Maxtor utility diskette to make mirror image hard drive to hard drive back ups, but had problems after moving to some non Maxtor drives.
Drive Image will do anything, and WILL copy system files that cannot be copied by any Windows program - if windows is up, you can't get every single file copied, that's just the way it is, it has to be done by a utility from dos, and Drive Image has a very good user interface to get this done.
Chose disk to disk, select source then destination, copy one partition at a time, and dig into the manual regarding advanced settings, there's just a little thing you have to find out about to prevent the copied drive from having a "hidden" aspect, this has to do with the difference between making a backup and removing it vs making a backup that stays in your system all the time. I pull mine out, and rotate hard drives so you have older versions if needed.
You can find Drive Image discounted and even shipped free from some of the venders, maybe check outpost.com or onvia.com, do a search with cnet to find the best
price.http://shopper.cnet.com/
http://www.powerquest.com/driveimage/index.html
Frank
In Reply to: I would get the R9 posted by Marianillo on August 11, 2000 at 04:07:26:
I got all screwed with CO2 pistols article above.
Sorry.
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In Reply to: BSA or R9 posted by Pepi on August 10, 2000 at 21:07:00:
I have a R9 in .25(believe it or not) and a BSA silver star.
As I understand the super sport trigger is very similar. I guess is the same type of rifle but in single action.
My experience with the BSA is:
- Good price.
- lighter.
- The trigger is good enough.
The R9:
- More expensive.
- Heavier.
- Rekord trigger (much better than the BSA)
- Quality and finishing notably better.
You have to consider that the weight factor is not a big deal because being the R9 heavier is not as heavy to make it a problem (I like the rifles to be a bit heavy actually, It's a psycological thing).
For what you get for the money I guess the BSA is the best, but my policy lately has been to buy the best you can pay for (My first rifle a few months ago was a Beeman GS-1000, I learned the hard way).
I would get the .20 caliber, seems lige a good choice for hunting and plinking. You cant get the .20 here in Spain, is a shame.
Have fun.
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In Reply to: um doesnt ANYONE buy co2 pistols that arent match grade????? posted by -=me=- on August 10, 2000 at 21:43:41:
It is accurate enough and shots diabolos. You can also manually cock it and shot it in single action.
I also have a Walter-UMAREX PPKS. The single action is a lot of fun but the machanism is not very reliable. Accuracy sucks.
My most accurate pistol is the Weihrauch HW-40 (P-3). Is awesome, but being single shot is a little bit problematic having to reload every time.
Haven't tried the P-23 but the Auto-45 I have is really bad.
Have fun.
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In Reply to: Tech Force Scope posted by Bob Miller on August 11, 2000 at 02:32:13:
i have a tech force 90 on my b22 magnum springer and in my opinion it is very accurate. i can shhoot quarters off my fence from 15-20 yards. it holds up really well to the springer recoil also.
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For sale on GunsAmerica - and they say there is no inflation.I didn't know they were"rare"
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In Reply to: Tech Force Scope posted by Bob Miller on August 11, 2000 at 02:32:13:
My son ordered a Tech Force scope for my father's day present. When it came, it said BSA. He got the 2x7 variable and we mounted it on a B21. Seems to work just fine. Don't expect Swift grade optics for $50.00.------PJ
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Anyone out there tried the "Tech Force" scopes from Compasseco?
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In Reply to: Re: BEST RIFLE SO FAR posted by Swinson on August 10, 2000 at 16:13:46:
craig as you have 365 rifles i bet the change is daily :)
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Anyone out there tried the "Tech Force" scopes from Compasseco?
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In Reply to: Re: Strange way to start the the day posted by RBest on August 10, 2000 at 20:41:31:
I am sorry that you lost a pet and I lost my cat about 2 years ago when some A..Hole shoot him with a rimfire in the head and the cat was only 4 months(sp)old.kitten!!!I'll make any one sick on there stomach!!!!Watch your self!!No telling what crazy might do!!!
BUD
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In Reply to: Re: first impressions, Elit 4200 8-32 posted by pritam on August 11, 2000 at 00:52:21:
pritam, as he hasnt answered yet ..ive seen it for under $400 at D&R sports on the net..not sure of a better price anywhere else yet the fixed 36X can run $500+
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In Reply to: Looking for a daisy rifle with MV under 500 posted by dAtA on August 10, 2000 at 20:29:47:
...Granlund Firearms in Cambell River, BC could sell you a detuned Weihrauch model 30 rifle. German quality, much nicer than a Daisy and no plastic!
Or you could get a detuned CZ631 rifle made in Czech Republic for @ $150 CDN + tax. Or you could buy mine for $100 CDN + shipping. Mine already has sling mounts, no plastic junk on this rifle either and it's very accurate.
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I have the above BB rifle, in about 80% outside condition. It has your typical single cocking lever piston action like "Daisy", with a wooden stock and fixed sights. The internal mechanism is broken, though it looks like the cocking/connecting rod just needs replacement. Does anyone know what I have, and what it might it might be worth? Or, maybe a reference I can look up?
Rene Sevilla
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In Reply to: Re: Source of Crosman 160 posted by tommy on August 10, 2000 at 23:56:48:
tommy: Fed Ex. takes two days. The CMP is a "privatised" US Govenment (non profit) Corporation, like the Post Office - now do you understand the delay? After placing your order, you have to jump through hoops and bark like a dog by sending/faxing them proof of affiliation.
regards - Steve B.
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In Reply to: BSA or R9 posted by Pepi on August 10, 2000 at 21:07:00:
Save your money and get both rifles!!!When I go on my trip in a few months to Conn.thats what I am going to do.
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In Reply to: cleaning posted by phredp on August 09, 2000 at 20:03:34:
search for tower Hobbies or Hobby ..on the net they spray is around 9$ 11oz..Mac1 sells it too
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In Reply to: cleaning posted by phredp on August 09, 2000 at 20:03:34:
as i havnt read the replys im betting they said this..dont use a rod, use a pull though. like a weed wacker line, crown saver..from mac1 or patchworm from silversteak. 2 dont use the chamber oil. it is made for leather seals now the nylon seals you have..3 try tar from james Macarri as its made just for springs and oils can get in the chamber and diesel :which can burn the seal & brake the spring..if thats repeating what was said sorry
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In Reply to: Re: Strange way to start the the day posted by Reason on August 10, 2000 at 20:43:11:
I have personally had to 'bail' out my own mutt from the Town Dog Wardens' holding pens on five occasions. The dog had been either tied up or (later) penned in every case. Socks (her name) was an accomplished escape artist. I went thru at least a dozen collars with her, plus two chains and four coated cables. There are times when no matter how hard you try, your pet will get loose. Do they deserve to die for this? To be honest, I live in a rural area, and a good 75% of peoples pets roam free . Nobody makes much of an issue about it. I have people who DO walk their dogs daily(on a leash), making sure they stop at my yards edge to let the dog pee on my tires and leave me a gift. Believe me, it's not worth the hassle of confronting them about it, as it does no harm that a garden hose can't take care of afterwards. (and no- I don't frantically run around with the hose looking for these treasures).
This is a farm community, and animals get loose. Cows, bulls, hogs,horses, llama's, emu's (YES) and others appear in our yards from time to time. We don't go into a tizzy if we see a creature that doesn't have a human tethered to it. Nor do we take pot shots at said animals.
I guess if you live in a city, and only have a 100 sq ft. front yard, a deposit from a Great Dane could take up a sizable portion of your real estate. This may be a cause for concern. Out here- it's no big deal. Regards, Russ
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In Reply to: Re: RWS 54 is this a good gun ? posted by Mike Pearson on August 10, 2000 at 07:58:27:
In my opinion B-Square makes the best mount for RWS-54 or any other gun.
Bob
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In Reply to: MV of stock Crosman 160 posted by tommy on August 10, 2000 at 23:26:32:
550-600 on cool day.
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In Reply to: um doesnt ANYONE buy co2 pistols that arent match grade????? posted by -=me=- on August 10, 2000 at 21:43:41:
Dear me: (LOL) I have 3 co2 pistols, none of which are match guns. A Crosman MK1, an Anics 101M BB pistol and now a Crosman 600 semi-auto. They're all fun as can poppers, although the MK1 is no slouch in accuracy. My most accurate pellet pistol is the pneumatic Gamo Compact. RB
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In Reply to: Ditto! posted by John Sa. on August 11, 2000 at 00:00:56:
John: I recently shot my buddies 8" S&W, and it's a beaut. Single action accuracy surprised me- even at 18 yards. RB
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In Reply to: first impressions, Elit 4200 8-32 posted by JonF. on August 10, 2000 at 21:08:52:
how much you paid for ?
where did you got ?
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In Reply to: Webley FX2000 vs Daystate Huntsman? posted by Keith on August 10, 2000 at 21:40:09:
I have a Huntsman PH-6 .22 , love it . Excellent trigger, shoots 26 ft pds. very accurate. High quality fit & finish. I have never seen an FX2000, but I can highly recommend the Daystate
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In Reply to: Bsa Super Sport Lefty Stock posted by Jim Slomski on August 10, 2000 at 23:33:26:
Jim: I'll put it to you this way-- I've never seen a lefty BSA stock. One easy way to change the way a Supersport feels to a lefty (or numerous other guns) is to either install a padded, lace-on cheekpiece from Cabela's or add an adhesive rubber cheekpiece from Pachmayer. RB
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In Reply to: Beeman Firearms posted by BSJ on August 09, 2000 at 21:36:31:
they had some Very high grade guns for awhile..i remember a 357 Mag they sold for 3K all i remember is the price scared me..this was 15 yrs ago
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In Reply to: Ditto! posted by John Sa. on August 11, 2000 at 00:00:56:
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In Reply to: Slipped out of the clutches of B$$man. posted by Willey M on August 09, 2000 at 23:45:28:
Willey ive seen sites that say it pulls the groups to the right..not sure if its true with airguns
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In Reply to: Re: I just received my Steyr LP10P posted by David Bruce on August 10, 2000 at 23:23:45:
NT
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In Reply to: Crosman 167 posted by jon on August 11, 2000 at 00:17:04:
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In Reply to: Just curious...are there any air pistols which resemble the Desert Eagle?.......nt posted by Steve T on August 10, 2000 at 09:38:56:
if you want a true copy airsoft should have one..there are some BB look a likes out as well..P1 is pretty close to looking like it
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In Reply to: German Luger airgun ? posted by jon on August 11, 2000 at 00:01:09:
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In Reply to: 50 yard targets posted by matt sudol on August 10, 2000 at 20:49:53:
Matt search for Benchrest or silhouete targets on the internet ..im sure youll have some retail hits and info that youll find useful
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In Reply to: Anyone else having problems getting Auction Arms to come up?Nt. posted by darmtn on August 11, 2000 at 00:09:11:
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I know Crosman produced the .177 version of the great 160 and called it the 167. Since getting into airgunning about 2 years ago I can honestly say I have never seen one come up for sale on the classifieds or up for auction. Are they that rare, or where they junk compared to the 160, or what?
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In Reply to: 9mm moly pellets posted by matt sudol on August 10, 2000 at 21:23:49:
matt if you have been here awhile youve seen posts on Mollyed pellets ..if not, they arent worth the time or mess..molly doesnt stick to lead well, and the groups open up..just lube them like you would CPs using slick -50 lube 1 ..spray papertowl, roll on towel & shoot
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In Reply to: Perfect gun posted by Swinson on August 10, 2000 at 22:31:27:
I have to agree with you on the "perfect" springer. I feel purdy lucky to have one of the last .22 R-9 TK RAID's that JM produced for common consumption. Had a hankerin for the Blue Laminate so I asked him to build one around it. The gun is amazing in every way. Shoots hard, isn't too loud and hits (kills) what you aim at. *Perfect*... :)
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In Reply to: Re: Strange way to start the the day posted by RBest on August 10, 2000 at 20:41:31:
I'm sorry too Russ. That had to be a terrible thing to see! Just make sure you keep YOURSELF safe! --- Mike
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As a kid I was always fascinated by the German Luger whenever I watched WWII movies. I was just sitting here thinking about that and started wandering whether anyone has made or is currently making an airgun which replicates that pistol. I know the Crosman Mark I / Mark II series is close in styling, but certainly doesn't have the blowback action of the Luger.
Thanks,
-jon-
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In Reply to: Re: um doesnt ANYONE buy co2 pistols that arent match grade????? posted by JonF. on August 10, 2000 at 22:56:37:
I have the same gun and my wife has a C225. I personally think that if the C225 is representative of the other Umarex guns, the S&W must be the best of the bunch by a long shot (sorry about that). It's hard to feel badly about the trajectory with low C02 since I usually get more than 60 rounds before I notice the dropoff. Believe it or not, the S&W is actually fairly accurate. On a good day, I can see the gun's effect on the groups. Most days, I affect the groups more than the pistol. At 7 yards (my indoor shooting distance) it's not too difficult to make a one ragged hole with a 10 shot cylinderful. Mine's picky about pellets. I can only use a couple of types.
The C225 isn't as accurate, seems louder, and has a much inferior trigger, but is still plenty fun to shoot. If you really think about it, the C225 is probably a better trainer. The trigger on it is about like a typical double action trigger pull on a real firearm. The S&W double action pull feels lighter than any of the double action pulls on any firearm I have ever handled.
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In Reply to: Source of Crosman 160 posted by john from NY on August 10, 2000 at 22:45:09:
Tinkerman, the rifle was sent via FEDEX, how come it took such a long time for it to arrive? Delayed order processing issues???
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In Reply to: Re: Source of Crosman 160 posted by john from NY on August 10, 2000 at 23:44:19:
john: Mine came in near mint condition, held (still holding) gas, all I had to do was degrease, load up and go play. Your mileage may vary. I did order a rebuild kit for the time when those old seals give it up, the gas cap seal was leaving black sludge when it was unscrewed (hint hint). No biggy I've gone to a Mac 1 bulk set up, he said smiling. The ureathane o-rings in the rebuild kits are really cool, I've got them in another gun that uses the same valve.
HTH - Steve B.
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In Reply to: Re: Scuba tank... posted by Swinson on August 10, 2000 at 15:10:15:
I hate to ask, but...what's a 4,500 psi carbon fiber tank go for. I had understood that Walther was coming out with a 300 bar (just under 4,500 psi gun) soon. Goodness knows what it will take to fill those puppies.
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In Reply to: Fun Supply update posted by James Kitching on August 10, 2000 at 20:57:51:
James: I had this same delema a year or two ago. An associate pointed out the the cheapest back up device was another hard drive - well duh... He was right (I hate it when that happens) but HD's are cheaper than tapes or CD any day of the week. I installed a second HD in one of those removeable carriers. Now all I have to do is copy C: to D: either directly with "xcopy C: D: /s/e/p" the Windows Copy command or use MS Backup (and pray of course). When everything is copied pull out the carrier and viola. All that remains is to tell the BIOS that D: no longer exists (at least until you need it).
HTH - Steve B.
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In Reply to: Source of Crosman 160 posted by john from NY on August 10, 2000 at 22:45:09:
CMP 160 Owners-
Did the guns come in good condition, was there rust on the barrel, won't hold gas, etc.? Any other problems?
thanks-
john from NY
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In Reply to: Thanks! Now more questions posted by Patrick on August 10, 2000 at 15:55:19:
I have the four piece barrel-clamping mounts on my Sheridan, the integramount on my 392, and iron sights on my 397. If you aren't going to get dovetails cut into the receiver, then either of those mounts will do. The ideal is to seek the lowest scope mount that you can find. The integramount is lower and allows a regular scope to be mounted with normal eye relief -- and less problems with the lower stock comb on the B/S's. (I suggest the knobbed bolt modification, if you use the integramount with higher magnification scopes) If you use the Benjamin mount, it results in the scope being mounted farther down the barrel. With a scope with longer eye relief, such as a pistol scope, that may solve the pumping challenge.
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In Reply to: Re: Strange way to start the the day posted by RBest on August 10, 2000 at 22:57:09:
When I was still just in high school, I used to work part time for a neighbor who ran a small distribution operation on Summerfield Ave. Had a small garage/warehouse thing going on distributing grinding wheels to places like Electric Boat in Groton. I would 'pick' and pallet up the various shipments and help load the trucks that came in - It was just me (really small deal, but it filled a niche). Anyway, there was an apt. house right next door and I would sometimes have to chase the kids from that house next door out of the 'warehouse' when they'd break in just kickin' around and getting into mischief.
I'll never forget the day I chased one kid out the back, and after he'd jumped the page link fence back onto the apt. house side he paced me step for step along the fence as I walked back towards the office, snarling at me (literally), and threatened to "cut me" if I ever managed to catch him.
If the kid was nine years old at the time it would have surprised me.
Yes, pets should be kept indoors - provided the family they belong to even has an 'indoors' to properly keep them. This was not at all a case of a person justifiably ridding the area of a nuisance. I'll take that bet on the 'neighborhood thug' (and your description is a generously benign one at that)
Tim
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In Reply to: Career question on disassembling posted by MarkD on August 10, 2000 at 20:40:57:
Mark:
I used the spanner wrench from my Winchester kit, whatever its called, used to change the choke tube on the shotgun. Works like it was made for removing the Career collars, perfect fit.
Sloop
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Hello,
Is there an option for the Bsa Supersport to have the option for a left handed stock? IE. The raised cheek piece being on the right side of the stock vs. the left side?
Thanks
Jim
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In Reply to: Thanks, but it does not work with W2k Pro posted by James Kitching on August 10, 2000 at 21:25:26:
It will copy an exact image of your HD, including the boot section and all hidden system files, to another hard drive, all automatically. Doesn't matter what the operating system is either. I've used it a bunch and really like it. Regards,
Unc
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What is the muzzle velocity of a stock crosman 160?
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In Reply to: Re: Source of Crosman 160 posted by TinkerMan on August 10, 2000 at 23:18:33:
TM: The sling I got was also new/mint. The leather is old and cracked when put into service. You might try oiling it down with Neatsfoot oil but think about replacing it altogether with your favorite 1" sling.
I removed the 1" swivels from the studs and installed 1 1/4" swivels to use an oid but really nice old target/military sling I had kicking around. Living happily ever after...
regards - Steve B.
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In Reply to: I just received my Steyr LP10P posted by David Bruce on August 10, 2000 at 20:44:21:
Thanks for the advice. I didn't receive a fitting for the Axor pump. It looks like what I got was a 200 DIN fitting. I think I need a 300DIN fitting.
I will call Pilkingtom Compitition tomarrow and figure out what I need.
This gun shoots NICE. It's a lot more accurate than I am. Thanks Dave
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Hello, I am somewhat interested in making my first pre-charged investment. I am not quite sure how serious I am about pre-charged guns so I don't want to burn my retirement fund, but I would like to have something that will be reliable, accurate, and pleasing just in case I like it more than my custom HW97k. Any suggestions? Thank you.
--Chazzz
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In Reply to: Re: Crosman 160 - Differences in triggers? posted by Steve B. on August 10, 2000 at 22:32:33:
NT
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In Reply to: Source of Crosman 160 posted by john from NY on August 10, 2000 at 22:45:09:
You can still buy them from CMP for $125. I got mine today. Came by FedEx, although I ordered it probably a month or more ago. Per the response to my post below, I'm pretty sure this is one with the GOOD (or BEST) trigger. Came with a brand new sling and peep sight. Well-packaged. Total price $134.95, including shipping. I'm pretty sure it's never been fired, but it'll need some cleaning. Can't try it out until tomorrow (it's dark and I don't have any CO2 cartridges).
The relevant link is http://www.odcmp.com/Services/Rifles/Repair/Specials.asp
In Reply to: Will everyone please post the URL for their personal Airgun site? posted by Josh P. on August 10, 2000 at 16:50:34:
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In Reply to: um doesnt ANYONE buy co2 pistols that arent match grade????? posted by -=me=- on August 10, 2000 at 21:43:41:
take the hint, if no body is bragging up their "real looking firearn like" POS theres a reason. I bet a lot of poeple have them it's just they're flying pigs - ok? It is rude of you to expect them to embarras themselves admitting to it ok?
But, least I be accused of pissing someone off or hurting somebody's feelings here are some crumbs... I've got a Cr AutoAir II, cheap, plastic, shoots steel BBs and it gets about 60-70 shots per cartridge - Cost $29-39 US. A real POS but...it's fun.
I have a CR 1008, also a POS, cheap, plastic, shoots pellets, gets 60-70 shots per cartridge. Cost $35-59 US. As accurate as it's firearm counterpart (some flavor of S&W) also fun.
So there you go, get that Gammo P-23 your popping a tent for and give us a break. Because I'm such a sweatheart of a human being I'll tell that Gammo peddles this beauty with a genuine LAZER sight ($99 US) - cool! So you can also stop bugging people about the dovetail because it does use one.
Just buy the Gammo and get some sleep.
HTH - me too
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In Reply to: Re: Thanks, but it does not work with W2k Pro posted by Swinson on August 10, 2000 at 21:53:35:
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In Reply to: Re: Strange way to start the the day posted by Tir on August 10, 2000 at 22:44:57:
Thanks Tim. I know you've been through that neighborhood, and it's definitely not an area to 'hang out' in. Russ
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In Reply to: um doesnt ANYONE buy co2 pistols that arent match grade????? posted by -=me=- on August 10, 2000 at 21:43:41:
I have a 6 inch S&W 686. I think it is a breat fun gun for plinking. The double action is fast and the single is very crisp. It's plenty accurate for plinking but trajectory is a b**** when CO2 gets low.
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In Reply to: Re: BSA old springer early 1900's... posted by Jack Riddle on August 10, 2000 at 20:31:55:
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In Reply to: Thanks, but it does not work with W2k Pro posted by James Kitching on August 10, 2000 at 21:25:26:
boot up in DOS ?
try this link
In Reply to: Re: Source of Crosman 160 posted by TK on August 10, 2000 at 22:47:00:
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In Reply to: Source of Crosman 160 posted by john from NY on August 10, 2000 at 22:45:09:
I saw one at Yahoo! Auctions a few minutes ago....
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In Reply to: Re: Crosman Black Venom posted by Funky Munky on August 09, 2000 at 22:05:29:
It's a little weak, but it can be had for only $20 at www.knifeco.com
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Does anyone know of a reliable source of used Crosman 160's? I've been lusting after one for a while, and I don't want to buy the Chinese knockoff.
Thanks Alot!
john from NY
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In Reply to: Strange way to start the the day posted by Russ Best on August 10, 2000 at 20:18:56:
Yeah, Bridgeport can indeed be a 'tough town'... seems a portion of both the human and animal element has lost their toehold somewhere along the way, and this is typical of the result. Whoever did it is probably a 'stray' in much the sense as the dog was. You say the dog was not feral - the irony of it is that one that did this probably *is*. That's an adjective not applied to people - but in my thoughts sometimes, all political correctness aside, it's appropriate.
Sorry something like this had to happen so 'close to home'. I'm not referring to geography either.
Tim
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Do you get out of a single full charge in your FX Carbine, and at what power level ??
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In Reply to: Crosman 160 - Differences in triggers? posted by TinkerMan on August 10, 2000 at 21:46:52:
TM: The early triggers where pinned and hung from the stock, I think the second type mounted on a plate on the bottom of the stock - both suck in terms of any adjustability. The third type trigger is the best from a shooters veiwpoint. I haven't a clue what you just got but if the safety is locatated in the front of the trigger guard, you've got the good one. To adjust it you'll have to remove the action from the stock.
To do this turn the safety to safe and press it out with a bic pen, piece of dowel (what ever) - it helps to wiggle the lever. Remove the nut from the locating stud on the bottom of the stock and your there. Important safety tip: The locking nut they use grips with a vengence and with probably take the locating stud out with it. They will have to be separated with pliers etc. Put the loacating stud back in the gun immediately (I've been know to use a tiny dab of blue loctite on it). Then run a 1/4x28 (NF) tap through the nut to kill the locking ability. At the back of the trigger housing you'll see three screw heads. From bottom to top, the first screw adjusts for pull weight, the second adjusts the trigger over travel and the top one adjusts the trigger/sear engagment. If in doubt you can carefully remove the sideplate and see whats going on - this is also a good time to clean it up and relube. I use moly paste but anything will probably work here.
How you handle the adjustments is your call but...after your done you need to check that the gun is not going to discharge acidently. Slap the butt, the sides, the forearm to see if it can fire by it's self. If it doesn't go party...
HTH - Steve B.
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I've been talking with a couple people about the perfect gun and came to realize that if I found it I would be sort of sad. I mean what else is there after the perfect gun?
I've come pretty close with my Stalker Tiger Cub LE (on Hawley's advice) but there are things that could be better with it, as the same could be said for the standard Tiger Cub. But one day I guess I'll find the perfect gun.
So far in thinking about it:
R-9 TK RAID in .22 is so far my most "perfect" springer, The Sharp Ace target is about perfect in .177, Steroid IS perfect in .22, I'm close but I'm not there yet on the PCP guns...Tiger LE cub, Axsor Carbine (now the FX Custom Carbine)... If I had Derrin's Rapid I might be even closer...or maybe the Career 707 with a Dave G custom stock.
Regards,
Craig
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In Reply to: So only trained divers can use tanks? posted by JonF. on August 10, 2000 at 20:55:15:
that in my opinion, an 11 year old shouldn't be using 3K psi airtanks without trained supervision.
Cody is asking about a very high power, very expensive setup. If he plans on using this only under his father's supervision, then that may be OK. How many of you, when you were 11, only wanted to shoot under supervision. My advise to Cody is to get a good gun like a QB-78 in .22. You could buy a lot of powerlets for the difference in price between a good PCP setup and the '78.
The "fun differential" between 600fps and 1000 fps for an 11 year old would probably be minimal.
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In Reply to: Re: BSA or R9 posted by Dr.J. on August 10, 2000 at 21:19:10:
I'm still working through the pellet assessment phase (and 'learning to shoot' phase, lol) with my R9. So far the Beeman FTS's seem to work the best in it. I'm not quite as accurate with the CM's, and I haven't gotten around to ordering or trying the CPL's yet. It would seem something at or above 8 grs. works best in mine - so far.
hth,
Tim
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In Reply to: List of all upcoming F.T. matches??? posted by Andrew on August 10, 2000 at 21:12:46:
Andrew,
We are currently holding FT matches at ORSA(Oak Ridge Sportsman's Association) in Oak Ridge, TN. the first Saturday of each month. Oak Ridge is about 15 miles west of Knoxville. About a 10 minute ride off of Interstate 40 west. We are 6 hrs. from Indy, and 4 hrs. from Atlanta to give you a little perspective on driving times.
Fred Cobb
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In Reply to: Fun Supply update posted by James Kitching on August 10, 2000 at 20:57:51:
The best thing to use is Norton Ghost. I believe the sell Norton Ghost personal addition. It really works great, I use it all the time when cloning computers at my work.
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In Reply to: Will a standard tarp do as a backdrop for a 350fps pistol? posted by Crane on August 10, 2000 at 22:04:42:
It will wear through too fast. Especially if all your shots hit close to the same spot.
A heavy piece of rubber, like a truck mud flap, angled a bit, would be better.
Good Shootin!!
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In Reply to: Re: BEST RIFLE SO FAR posted by Roland Martens on August 10, 2000 at 22:08:05:
Roland. On one of his guns, one fill will give two or three shots (from the gun- the tank will provide a lot more than that). Still, pulling the trigger yields a very loud "KABOOM! RB
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In Reply to: Re: BEST RIFLE SO FAR posted by RBest on August 10, 2000 at 19:37:02:
How do you reload such a thing? You'll probably need a whole 3000 PSI scuba tank just to shoot 1 shot!
If you pull the trigger in your backyard, you'll probably be visited by some nice guys in black, covered with helmets, armored bulletproof vests & some minor shoot'n gear...
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Will a standard tarp do as a backdrop for a 350fps pistol?
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In Reply to: Fun Supply update posted by James Kitching on August 10, 2000 at 20:57:51:
Xcopy C:\*.* /E /V /I /F /L /H /R /T /K /N (some are not necessary but are there for verification or notices on the screen while copying)
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In Reply to: Will everyone please post the URL for their personal Airgun site? posted by Josh P. on August 10, 2000 at 16:50:34:
Here it goes!
In Reply to: List of all upcoming F.T. matches??? posted by Andrew on August 10, 2000 at 21:12:46:
Andrew: We’ve tried to hit them all in our geographic area so far this Summer. From Charleston, WV, we’ve traveled three times southwest to Oak Ridge, TN, twice west to Indianapolis, IN, once north to Youngstown, OH, and once east Damascus, MD. We saw you at Youngstown and I read where you traveled north to Western Wayne. I think that’s just about all we have to choose from – which is not that bad really.
If you haven’t gone over to shoot with Anthony Storey in Indianapolis then you should make this trip at least once this Summer. Anthony has been in this sport a long time, is an awesome shot with most airguns and pool sticks, knows how to put on a match, and is otherwise great ambassador for Field Target. I’ve attached the url below for the club where Anthony holds his matches. There is one this Sunday if you need to shoot real soon.
Good luck Andrew and sorry we'll miss you in Youngstown on Oct. 1.
Rick McAllister
In Reply to: Thanks, but it does not work with W2k Pro posted by James Kitching on August 10, 2000 at 21:25:26:
New version will, IC3 does, Drive Image does...there are several...gut thyself to www.cnet.com and start searching. A
Regards,
Craig
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In Reply to: Re: BSA or R9 posted by Dr.J. on August 10, 2000 at 21:19:10:
Beeman is the sole source of R-9's in the USA. If yoy were referring to PSI being the only BSA dealer in the states- think again. A partial listing of BSA dealers can be found at the URL below. RB
In Reply to: I just received my Steyr LP10P posted by David Bruce on August 10, 2000 at 20:44:21:
Use you pump,just switch out the hose for the pressure gauge and screw the adapter that came with the pistol into the top of the pump.To use your scuba tank,you'll need a yoke from Scott Pilkington.
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In Reply to: daystate huntsman posted by J. Thomas on August 10, 2000 at 09:23:31:
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I just got my 160 from CMP today.
I remember reading a post some time ago about the three different triggers that were used in 160s. I looked for the post and cannot find it.
Can someone describe the Type 1, Type 2 and Type 3 triggers that were used in the 160 and the differences between them? Which is the best of the 3? How can I tell which one is on the CMP 160 that I received today?
THANKS!
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In Reply to: How do you take a spring out of an airgun??? Could anyone give me a good detailed reply? (nt) posted by Bill on August 10, 2000 at 21:17:52:
The procedure can vary with a specific model. Some are more difficult than others and require special tools to be made ahead of time. RB
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Hey guys, nice forum here. I came across y'all while surfin' some gun websites. I usually "hang out" on the Varmints Den forum and posted a link to this site there. Alot of the guys on that forum are airgunners too and they will probably visit here.
It's been a while since I shot an airgun. Had a nice Beeman R1 in .20 caliber, when they first came out they were called R1's and then I think the .20's were given a different number...not sure though. Had a nice RWS45 too, with a 22 and 177 caliber barrel. Shot alot of chipmunks, squirrels and rabbits with it...ate the edible stuff in case you are wondering.
Mostly shoot firearms now but do enjoy reading yer posts. Here's a link back to the Varmints Den forum if you are interested...
um doesnt ANYONE buy co2 pistols that arent match grade?????
ie c225, 1911A, P-23, PPK/s, cp-88, cp-99
if you own ANY of the above or any airgun that resembles a firearm PLEASE post your comments here!
thx alot
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In Reply to: List of all upcoming F.T. matches??? posted by Andrew on August 10, 2000 at 21:12:46:
Looking to hear some opinions from anyone who owns either of theses guns. I am gonna buy one or the other. Thanks
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In Reply to: Fun Supply update posted by James Kitching on August 10, 2000 at 20:57:51:
E-mail me about the backup. there si a string of letters you put in back of your comand, and it will copy everything from one HD to another.. I got to find it LOL
thom
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In Reply to: Re: Fun Supply update posted by vZc® on August 10, 2000 at 21:14:12:
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In Reply to: Strange way to start the the day posted by Russ Best on August 10, 2000 at 20:18:56:
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In Reply to: Re: CMP Crosman 160 posted by Tom L. on August 10, 2000 at 18:17:13:
The first one ($175) was brand new and came with the Crosman manuel and all the other goodies. The more recent ones($125) seem to have bluing thats a little discolored from storage, but well worth the money.
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Does anyone make 9mm moly pellets? Can you send over the link.
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In Reply to: How do you take a spring out of an airgun??? Could anyone give me a good detailed reply? (nt) posted by Bill on August 10, 2000 at 21:17:52:
Take a look at his spring compressor. Also if you buy Tom Gaylord's R1 book (worth every penny) it gives a very discriptive information not only how to get the spring out but also what to do afterwards.
http://sites.onlinemac.com/gunn1/jig.htm
or click below
In Reply to: BSA or R9 posted by Pepi on August 10, 2000 at 21:07:00:
I don't have an R9, so I can't make that comparison myself. However, you can view photos of my BSA Super Sport's hunting ability at my site.
Click below.
In Reply to: Thanks! Now more questions posted by Patrick on August 10, 2000 at 15:55:19:
Patrick , Noofense to the other posts but theres nothing mysterious or troublesome with a scoped sheridan. Forget the dots and the peeps go with a scope. Heres how.First you find the original first one piece mount with the three screws.Its about $20.00. You could put a want ad for it thats what I did or post on this forum .Then get a bushnell sportview either 4x or 3-9 X 32mm no larger on the objective size.OK now set the mount so the extended overhang end is flush with the start of the breech opening.dont forget to clean the screws with alcohol and then use blue locktite.Now set the scope in there with one ring before the turret dials and one ring after the turrets.make sure the scope is back so when you pick up the gun and shoulder it your eye is at the right distance(eye relief) from the objective.Now the results--the bolt opens and clears the scope so you dont need any mods here.pellet loading is a cinch.And pumping- just hold at the pistol grip with the right hand(if right handed) and the pump handle with the left hand and pump.You wont regret it.
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In Reply to: BSA or R9 posted by Pepi on August 10, 2000 at 21:07:00:
I too was debating between the BSA Supersport and the Beeman R9. In part because of comments from AG letter fellow shooters and my hesitancy to buy a product that is sole-sourced (Precision is exclusive importer. I sent my check out for the R9 today. I have a 2-pc RWC C-mount and will put a Bushnell Trophy 4-12x40AO on it. Any advice on pellets for the R9 in .177? Thanks. Dr.J.
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In Reply to: What's CMP's web site address? Thanks! (nt) posted by Doc on August 10, 2000 at 19:49:45:
try this
In Reply to: Will everyone please post the URL for their personal Airgun site? posted by Josh P. on August 10, 2000 at 16:50:34:
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In Reply to: Sad to say posted by RBest on August 10, 2000 at 19:50:52:
I had only recently lost someone close, my grandfather.
I saw him every day for the first 29yrs of my life.
I've lost school mates of 10+yrs previous to this
and it was difficult, But losing family is VERY
different. I've got some idea of how he may feel
and it really sucks!
Please pass along my families condolences. God bless.
The Kelly's...
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In Reply to: BSA or R9 posted by Pepi on August 10, 2000 at 21:07:00:
For hunting I would get the BSA SS in .22. Light and accurate. My second choice for hunting will be the R9 in .20 with a Russ Best tune. For plinking and informal shooting both the SS and R9 in .177 are a good choice with the R9 being a bit better in quality for a little bit more money.
It is easy to mount a scope on either gun.
Russ also does an excellent job tuning the supersports.
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In Reply to: Fun Supply update posted by James Kitching on August 10, 2000 at 20:57:51:
more programs exist but here's one
In Reply to: New Gun: Daisy Powerline model 1700 posted by Mike Lee on August 10, 2000 at 03:48:33:
Why don't you give us your thoughts and comments?? SSlick
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Can someone tell me of some FT matches that are coming up soon in the east? Or howabout a URL that lists that sort of stuff
Thanks
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In Reply to: I just received my Steyr LP10P posted by David Bruce on August 10, 2000 at 20:44:21:
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I got the scope today. I opened it up and checked it out. The power ring is very easy to turn and only moves a little bit, I thoght it would have to turn like twice around to get from 8 to 32:).
The Objective turns out very smoothley but is a tid bit harder to turn in only by comparison. The adjustment knobe are target types, resettable and marked. They just don't look like it as they are very small but that keeps it slim. They feel so nice! The only other scopes I have are a Bushnell 3-9 Sportview and a Weaver T-36. There knobs are very tight clicks, almost hard to just get one click. The Elite on the other hand is so smoothe, like ball bearings or somthing! It's not mounted yet so it's hard to keep it steady but I did look through it at around 1:00PM when it was very sunny and the image jumped right out at me, it was extremely bright, clear, and crisp! I should get the Career Wed. I hope and will post about it.
Good shootin!
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In Reply to: Scope it, heres how. posted by Eric Helfrich on August 10, 2000 at 21:00:38:
You can also pump the gun by placing your palm on top of the scope and mounts, just where you normally would if the gun was not scoped. It is not as easy because the scope gets in the way some but you can get 14 pumps in either way I described. You could easily mount a nice 3x9 or 4x12 scope, just don't have target turrets as this will press into your palm when pumping. i shyed away from the gun for a long time as /i wanted to scope it or not get it at all. I am happy with the result. Remember, you need to get the bolt handle modified to be able to cock the thing with a scope on it, even if you go for the integra mounts. Hope this helps. Mine shoots 21 grain (I think) kodiak pellets at 690 fps at 14 pumps(22 ft.lbs), shoots Premiers at 785 fps at 14 pumps(around 19 plus ft/lbs. I have yet to shoot at longer distances with it but it seems pretty accurate.
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I've finally decided on either a BSA SS or a Beeman R9. Now I can't decide on what caliber to get? 177, 20 or 22....
Also, what would you get a BSA or R9? Which is easier to add a scope?
Thanks
Pepi
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In Reply to: Re: Career question on disassembling posted by Steve in CT on August 10, 2000 at 20:57:01:
Thanks Steve, I was considering using my air compressor with a long hollow hose to blow out any loose particles. It would seem to me that shoving something down the tube would only force any particles down to the bottom and then be real hard to get out.
I am excited about trying the reg and spring kit I would just hate to only get part way and then have to wait on some tool, being that I have shot the gun everyday since I got it
Thanks again
MarkD
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In Reply to: Re: Career question on disassembling posted by Swinson on August 10, 2000 at 21:00:52:
going thru withdrawals while you were gone. LOL
Agent S-707-.177-.20.-22.-25 (My code number)
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In Reply to: Re: Career question on disassembling posted by Steve in CT on August 10, 2000 at 20:57:01:
You are the 707 man...
Savvas....Steve Savvas....Agent 707.
Regards,
Craig
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In Reply to: Sheridan w/ red-dot? posted by Patrick on August 10, 2000 at 14:35:06:
I recently bought a Mac 1 steroid 392. I got dovetails cut into the reciever. I used beeman/sportsmatch medium mounts. This set up will place the scope a bit lower to the reciever than the integramount. I had to get the mounts cut for barrel rise(opposite of droop) cost $42 total for the mounts and the machining. Gun shot 6" high at 10 yds with scope optically centered(in the middle of the total click adjustments). You also need to get the bolt handle cut ($10) and Mac 1 puts a knob so it clears the scope when cocking it. I put a weaver V16 and its great. Shooting in the basement I hold the top of the reciever with my finger tips under the scope and loading port and push the pump handle towards the gun with my palm, butt of the gun on the carpet. I also got extended billet which makes the pumping handle 4 inches longer(stock is cut 4 inches shorter)which give much greater leverage. 6 pumps are very easy from a sitting position. You need to get at least the bolt handle replaced and either the dovetails cut or integramount. The trade offs are pellets are a bit harder to load as the scope gets in the way some but this is mastered quickly. It takes some money time and patience but these MAC 1 mods work great.
Eric Helfrich
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Still having computer trouble, never experienced anything like this before. Sorry for the delays in opening back up, but I want to get a system that works right, and is backed up properly before I start using it.
I have a new W2000 installation that I have about 3 days in, that is working fine now, but I have been unable to get it backed up with my Onstream tape drive. Onsteam W2k software is crap at this point, and Retrospect wont use tapes previously formatted with Onstream.
It locked up twice, but I got it going again, I dont want to risk all that work until I get some form of backup, still need to install some more drivers and programs.
Does anyone know how to copy the entire HD to another (bootable clone)?
I have seval extra HD's available.
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In Reply to: Strange way to start the the day posted by Russ Best on August 10, 2000 at 20:18:56:
Russ I am sorry for your loss even if the dog was stray you and others lost a good friend.
If the dog was not stray I would suggest that after the wupass on the deranged killers you would save a little wupass on the owner for letting it wander.
No good can be had of animals wandering around on their own. Not just because they may cause somebody grief (trash cans) but they are a hazzard to themselves with auto traffic. I feel that pet owners owe the pet some responsibility.
With all this ugliness hopefully some good will come of it!!!
MarkD
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In Reply to: Career question on disassembling posted by MarkD on August 10, 2000 at 20:40:57:
Mark,
Those rings sometimes do not come very much tightened from the factory. On one of mine I was able to unscrew it by hand but that was very unusual.Now I have the right wrench for it.
Anyway before I had the wrench I used to put the gun on its side on a blanket. (Empty of air offcourse). Then I used a piece of a wooden dowel that I sharpened at the end to fit into those tiny holes and hammered the dowel lightly at the right angle until it came loose. It's kind of tricky but that's all I had.
Also when you clean the reservoir instead of Ray's method which is very frustrating take a shotgun cleaning rod with a bronze cleaning brush. Wrap a couple of cotton cleaning patches and squeeze them on the bronze brush. It works great. After having done that, take the gun and put your scuba filling hose half way down and blow all possible little particles out of there.
Before you slide the reg in check the threads for any sharpness. This will chew on your O-ring. If it is a problem grab some sanding paper and smooth the threads. Hold the gun pointing down if you do this so nothing falls down inside. Then clean again (or check for this before cleaning)
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In Reply to: Pump up is OK posted by DougWall on August 10, 2000 at 15:06:28:
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In Reply to: It takes about 3 years for an order, i doubt the opinions will change in a week posted by peter on August 10, 2000 at 19:49:00:
I'm talking about the guys fancy for one, not how long it takes to build one. I doubt the guy has one so it may be a passing fancy type of thing...looks good today but on to other things tomorrow. As well last time I checked it took about 18-24 months or so to get one and have heard tell you can get them faster and have seen some for sale in the classifieds. Oddly I bought two Barnes guns at pretty good discounts and they took about a week to get (second hand).
As for 600 FPE I think there are some big bores guns out there that can do that. Gee I might even have one or two, how many do you have?
Point is I think the comment was made as a "just saw the page and this is COOL" next week the guy will just see another page by someone else and may say that's cool.
Lighten up.
Regards,
Craig
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Does anyone know where I can buy the chicken , pig , turkey and ram for 50 yard .22's? After that what about 75 yards? Thanks alot.
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I just received my LP10P. The fill adapter that came with it won't fit my 120 cu/ft steel HP tank. I have a fill adapter for my Career rifles set up to connect to this tank. The Career adapter screws into the flex hose on both this and my Axor pump. Do they make a similar adapter for the Steyr cylinders so I can the same equipment to fill it?
P.S. I've only shot about 50 rounds through it so far but I love it.
I'm on vacation for a week so I'll do some chrorographing on my 707, Fire 201 9mm and the Steyr. I'llpost some results when I back
Thanks for your help. Dave
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In Reply to: Strange way to start the the day posted by Russ Best on August 10, 2000 at 20:18:56:
People shouldn't let their dogs and cats run
"at large". Dogs should be on leashes. Cats should
be indoors. Both cats and dogs are destructive to
wildlife and property. Have you ever had your
favorite item pissed on? Dog crapping in your yard?
Dog chasing your pets? Dog mauling your children?
Cats are responsible for the decline
of some of our threatened songbird species.
Of course I recommend calling the animal control people and talking with your
neighbors before destroying any domestic animal.
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In Reply to: Re: Strange way to start the the day posted by Uncle Gary on August 10, 2000 at 20:27:18:
I hear you Gary. My first thoughts were to find out who did it and then open up a large can of "Whupass" on them, but the shops neighborhood is hardly a decent area, and people around there are very tightlipped about things, for fear of reprisal. I knew I would come up empty handed if I knocked on a few doors ( that in itself, is a dangerous undertaking on Bridgeports' East Side), so I just bit my lip and said goodbye to my 4 legged pal. I have nothing against hunting, and do it myself; but this wasn't hunting,it was just plain thoughtless and sadistic. Still pissed- Russ
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In Reply to: Strange way to start the the day posted by Russ Best on August 10, 2000 at 20:18:56:
Good point, Russ! and I was sorry to read the details of your post. I too, have read many posts here from airgunners who seem to want recommendations on what gun or what pellet they should use to kill the cat, or mean dog, or what not and I personally find it very disturbing, as I am both a dog and cat owner. Most dogs and cats mean absolutely no harm to anyone, and to the contrary, they provide people, and especially children, with much needed love and companionship. I hope others will read your post and that those who would be inclined to kill or "wound" a pet would reconsider their set of values and ask themselves if they honestly feel any sense of humanity left within them. By the way, these are exactly the types of incidents that cause more and more dislike and hate of gunners around the world----something that we definitely don't need!
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I have ordered a regulator for my Career and as I wait I want to make shure that I have everything I need to acomplish the job of instulation.
My biggest concern is the need for a spanner wrench or is it possible to use a Winchester choke tube wrench would I be able to generate enough force to remove these funny looking collars or perhaps somthing else will work.
I thought about making a pin wrench out of steel not shure how to go about it or if it is even necessary?
Thanks
MarkD
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In Reply to: Strange way to start the the day posted by Russ Best on August 10, 2000 at 20:18:56:
I`m with you on that one. About 10 years ago, somebody decided to shoot my horse right in the pasture behind the barn. Worst part about it was that whoever that brave soul was, he didn`t even kill the horse; one through the stomach and walked away. You really don`t have to ponder why there are so many Antis out there...
Pel-It
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In Reply to: Strange way to start the the day posted by Russ Best on August 10, 2000 at 20:18:56:
Russ,
In that neighborhood there are people that wouldn't think twice about putting a bullet through a human's head never mind a dog. It pisses me off and at the same time outrages me.
Just be cautious guy. The person who did that is not ok in the head.
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In Reply to: Strange way to start the the day posted by Russ Best on August 10, 2000 at 20:18:56:
I hate to hear that you know. I have seen cats chase down rabbits in my backyard and even though I can run to grab my pellet gun or .22 I pass on it because it is illegal , wrong immoral and just is a fact of life only the strong survive. If you see a dog running a deer don't shoot it call up the local fish and game because they deal with it 24/7 and know what to do.
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In Reply to: Re: BSA old springer early 1900's... posted by DT Fletcher on August 10, 2000 at 11:24:43:
I have found a BSA #2 Standard, .22 cal., in a gun store in Smyrna, GA. The serial range is 53,000, condition seems good, no cracks or mending on the stock, metal is browned, sights good. I can't find any literature around here as to possible value or numbers made in .22 cal. Where can I find info for take down and cleaning?
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I live in Canada where one needs a FAC to own an air rifle with an MV of 500 fps or higher. I won a daisy 454 pistol and absolutely love it. Im thinking of purchasing a daisy rifle with an MV of lower than 500 that shoots pellets (i want a rifled barrel not smooth bore), pretty accurate (.4" c-t-c at 10 m something like that anyways...) and less than 200 dollars (ideally in the 100-140 dollar range). Does any rifle (does not ONLY have to be daisy) meet these specifications?
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In Reply to: My old beeman " airgun " posted by matt sudol on August 10, 2000 at 15:06:21:
Bought one about 2 months ago at my local ACE hardware. Didn't say Beeman, but alot of fun! Good luck, Bill
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In Reply to: Strange way to start the the day posted by Russ Best on August 10, 2000 at 20:18:56:
This makes me so angry I'd like to smack the hell out of whoever the bastard is that did it! We have 3 dogs; two of them were friendly strays that we adopted, good dogs, just looking for some caring humans and a home. How someone can do this to a friendly animal, I'll never know. The world is full of cruelty, most of it caused by selfish people who have pity only on themselves. Russ, I'm sorry, I know exactly how you feel, but I know that's probably not much consolation right now.
Regards,
Gary
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In Reply to: Re: Technical Huntsman questions posted by Michael Aos on August 10, 2000 at 17:21:51:
Mike Aos has it right: 850-870 FPS with the pellet of choice in .177 is about right for FT, and you'll find it more consistent and accurate at this velocity level. Try it! Regards,
Unc
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In Reply to: What kinda scope is that on the IZH61?Just curious.thanks(nt) posted by Josh P. on August 10, 2000 at 17:54:15:
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When I arrived at the shop this morning, I noted something odd. Right next to the dumpster was a shopping cart. I could only see the back end of the cart from where I was viewing it, but I saw a tan tail sticking out from the back of the cart. I walked around to see what it was, and there, tossed face first into the cart, was one of the dogs I often fed scraps too. He appeared to have died from a centerfire pistol shot to the head. This bummed me out and pissed me off at the same time. The dog was owned by someone in the neighborhood I work in, and he'd often come by to'say hello'. He was friendly and well cared for(not wild). I really can't imagine why someone would blow him away; but I'd bet the deed was done with a 9mm auto. I called the town animal control officer to come pick the body up, which they did later on. Unfortunately, this dog lacked a collar and tag, but I know it was someones pet.
While not directly airgun related, I know that there are airgunners here and there that take out animals that they "THINK" are feral. I urge them to give some thought before pulling the trigger on domesticated animals. While they may not be sporting a collar or tag, these animals are nonetheless someones pet, and lack of ID doesn't give anyone the right to take such an animals life, unless there were extenuating circumstances. I knew this dog, and it's my opinion that one of the local thugs probably shot it for yucks, as this animal never exhibited dangerous or unhealthy behavior. Regards, Russ
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In Reply to: Clamping Springers? posted by Dwight Carlson on August 10, 2000 at 18:45:19:
I had to email them a couple of times and found that sometimes they got back
to you within a day, other times within a week. Best bet ,if your in a rush,
is to get up really early and just call them.
Scott
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In Reply to: if you're really, REALLY, bored: posted by peter huppertz on August 10, 2000 at 18:48:26:
Heh-Heh-Heh! Hey Peter, this ones even better than the German Weihrauch site Hans posted yesterday!
;-). Cheers!
Unc
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In Reply to: Whens the Ohio shoot? posted by Andrew on August 10, 2000 at 12:43:38:
Ohio State Field Target Shoots a go
Posted by Rick on August 06, 2000 at 12:51:05:
At Thursdays nights club meeting, I gave all the details of July 9ths match and asked to hold the Ohio State Field Target Championship match on Oct 1st and they gave me the go ahead, also I asked again if I could open the practice range at 8 am instead of 9 am stating that some of you guys are from out of state and getting on the road an hour earlier makes a big difference and they said they had no problem with the earlier starting time.
So its set, the Ohio State Field Target Championship Shoot will be on Oct.1, 2000 at the Fish and Game Club of Vienna, across from the Youngstown Regional Airport on SR 193, it will be a 70 shot match shot in the woods just south of the practice range, those of you who shot our July 9th match know where we'll be shooting and I promise it will be as challenging as the July 9th match, so make some plans and come and shoot with us.
For more info. and directions to the match you can e-mail me at Airoe@alo.com or phone me at home after 8pm est. at 330-637-9442
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In Reply to: Sad to say posted by RBest on August 10, 2000 at 19:50:52:
Sorry to hear this Russ. My thoughts go out to him and his family. Jim is a good guy.
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For those who are friends of Jim Maccari- Jim lost his uncle (whom he was close to)this morning to cancer. I'm sure he and his family would appreciate expressions of sympathy. Regards, Russ
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In Reply to: CMP Crosman 160 posted by darmtn on August 10, 2000 at 18:09:36:
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In Reply to: Re: BEST RIFLE SO FAR posted by Swinson on August 10, 2000 at 16:13:46:
Definately wron there. It takes an average of 3 years to place an order so an airgun from Barnes is not gonna be outdated anytime soon. And thing about it, he makes gun in the 600ft lb range, i don't think he has much competition or technology to be worried about. And beside the fact that he is following the original airgunsmith traditions of a few centuries, so once again i doubt it'll change in a week time. He makes good rifles. Lewis and Clark used the same type, and your grandson might be able to afford one. His territory is untouchable by any single company on earth, I mean at around 3000 a peice, now that's a rifle. And it's all handmade to boot.
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In Reply to: Re: Thumbs up to UPS posted by RBest on August 10, 2000 at 19:21:59:
I was in the Keni region, mustly fished the Kasiloff River but did some ocean fishing down around Homer as well.
I came home with over 50 pounds of processed fish, needless to say my freezer is busting at the seams right now.
If your thinking of making the trip I'd recommend the Angler's Lodge, Roger and Marleen (Owners) are good people and a ton of great fish recipes.
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In Reply to: Re: Best looking pistol around...suggestions? posted by Dave Monck on August 10, 2000 at 17:48:23:
Dave,
How was the exam?
Kevin
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In Reply to: Re: Career 707 questions posted by Swinson on August 10, 2000 at 18:52:40:
about 150 healthy strokes!
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In Reply to: Re: BEST RIFLE SO FAR posted by Unseen on August 10, 2000 at 17:13:32:
I've used some of Gary's guns. In the truest sense of the word, he IS an airgunsmith. Is it the BEST rifle? That depends. If you're deerhunting with an airgun- it probably is. I sure wouldn't use it in my backyard though! RB
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In Reply to: The cylinder won't turn the proper amount. (nt) posted by John Sa. on August 10, 2000 at 00:58:24:
John: is this still a problem with the newer ones? I spoke to Rick Willnecker of Precision Pellet some time ago, and he said that once the cylinder became unbalanced ( a few shots fired) the cylinders wouldn't index correctly because gravity/balance would make the cylinder rotate so that the pellet heavy side of the cylinder wanted to stay to one side or even drop a notch or two. RB
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In Reply to: SURVEY THINGY posted by Cody Dotter on August 09, 2000 at 19:31:48:
Baikal IZH-61
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In Reply to: Re: Thumbs up to UPS posted by Paul Luhmann on August 10, 2000 at 15:20:42:
Paul: what section were you in? While I haven't fished much in recent years, I've been giving it some thought. I can't name any seafood that I DON't like! RB
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In Reply to: ROFLPMP!!!! (I do shoot left-handed, btw) (nt) posted by peter huppertz on August 10, 2000 at 18:53:45:
nt
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In Reply to: Clamping Springers? posted by Dwight Carlson on August 10, 2000 at 18:45:19:
Clamping it down w/ or w/o the stock? Either way
you'll alter the harmonics. The other issue is
if you were to clamp it down w/ the stock w/ repeative
jolts, vibration, recoil there by altering the harmonics,
more than likely for the worse. Airguns are very
tempermental to changes, even very minute ones
that the eye wouldn't reveal. All in all not an idea
to entertain. Good luck and safe shooting!!!!!
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In Reply to: Re: RX-1 BARREL PROBLEM posted by bill on August 10, 2000 at 11:43:57:
Bill: it's called a surface plate. I have a 4' x4' granite surface plate that is flat to within a couple Angstrom Units. RB
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In Reply to: Re: BSA old springer early 1900's... posted by DT Fletcher on August 10, 2000 at 11:24:43:
Dean, Alan noted it's a side-button lever, marked BSA Standard - so unless it's an Oriental copy (much rarer than genuine ones), it is a BSA pre-1919 vintage - I have several that have been well used, and still function just fine, e.g. 11.4 ft-lb in .22.
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In Reply to: Newbies, a few questions, posted by BCall on August 09, 2000 at 01:23:28:
You are 100% correct.
When I put the Airgun Forum online several years ago, I had hoped that having a reference section would help people find information that they needed. But I should have known better because they were already ignoring the rest of the info available on our Airgun Resources and Web Links page as well as the free info available on other airgun sites.
I can’t tell you how many times a week I get asked by e-mail: “Where can I find the site for Daisy [Crosman, Beeman]?” The Internet is simple. FIRST, try to find the company by writing http://www.name.com. If that doesn’t do it, go to one of the airgun Web sites and see if it’s already listed.
I list resources so you can find the info and take care of your own research. Even if I have memorized a Web site, phone # or address of someone, I tell them to go to our Airgun Resources or Web Links page to find it themselves. I am not the Shell Answer Man (if you’re old enough to know that bit of sarcasm means).
Stuff is out there - go find it! I don’t want to give you a fish, I want to teach you how to fish.
I think our nanny state gov’t with cradle-to-grave care has created a society of people who think others are there to serve them. I don’t mind helping people, but I will only help people who will help themselves.
As far as the spelling and grammar is concerned - I couldn’t agree more. If a person’s spelling and grammar is so atrocious that I can’t figure out what he’s saying - I just don’t respond. Learn to use the commas and periods if for no other reason than to break up the mass of letters and words. I know people are dyslexic. My husband is one of them. He’s learned to spellcheck and proof very carefully. He still makes mistakes, but so does everyone else. I just don’t know why people who aren’t dyslexic feel they can vomit up a string of words that barely form a coherent sentence and think others will eagerly jump at the opportunity to help them. I respect the people who help others, so I want to appear coherent and look like a woman with cogent thoughts. English was not my first language. If I can learn it well enough to write for a living, so can the rest of you who were born, raised and educated here!
Edith Gaylord
The Airgun Letter
staff@airgunletter.net
http://www.airgunletter.net
http://www.airgunletter.com
In Reply to: 10.9 gr. Crossman Premiers posted by Horace on August 10, 2000 at 13:21:29:
Horace: they are 10.5 grains. They'll shoot pretty good, but they COULD reduce spring life. RB
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In Reply to: Re: My old beeman " airgun " posted by DougWall on August 10, 2000 at 15:53:21:
I wore mine out years ago. That thing was fun. Yellowjacket in the house? No problemos! RB
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In Reply to: Will everyone please post the URL for their personal Airgun site? posted by Josh P. on August 10, 2000 at 16:50:34:
In Reply to: Speak for yourself Dave. posted by Steve in CT on August 10, 2000 at 16:20:30:
Steve: you still here? Why aren't you on a plane!!?? Don't forget your laptop- sdo you can post to us from across the pond. I need a running commentary on what the english have in stock in thier stores. :>) Russ
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In Reply to: Need parts and possibly repair service for an Anschutz 250 posted by Art McAleenan on August 10, 2000 at 00:39:33:
For service try Neal Johnson, www.nealguns.com.
HTH
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In Reply to: Re: pellets and bowling balls? posted by Tir on August 08, 2000 at 08:00:15:
nt
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In Reply to: Anyone ever seen a chrome or nickle Daisy 400gx? nt posted by Flak on August 10, 2000 at 17:46:26:
Yeah at Golden Toller...
In Reply to: Re: Career 707 questions posted by matt sudol on August 10, 2000 at 18:21:23:
It doesn't quite work that way...the gun has an operating pressure of maybe 3000 to 1800 PSI. I have no idea how many pumps it would take to get from 1800 to 3000 psi.
Regards,
Craig
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In Reply to: Re: Problem with linseed oil stock finish posted by bill on August 10, 2000 at 11:06:05:
thinned with spirits - many 3-drop coats later, you have a beautiful result.
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In Reply to: Clamping Springers? posted by Dwight Carlson on August 10, 2000 at 18:45:19:
I have doubts as to testing accuracy via clamping a springer. Vibration and tiny movements in the table resulting from the cocking motion could be misleading. Besides, springers are MEANT to recoil freely when shot. Shooting them clamped down will yield un-natural results. Russ
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In Reply to: Will everyone please post the URL for their personal Airgun site? posted by Josh P. on August 10, 2000 at 16:50:34:
this one's in Dutch ;-)
Someone recently asked if clamping(such as in a vise or a Workmate) a springer (and then shooting it) would cause it harm.
I didn't get back in time to see if anyone replied.
I went to the Webley Scot site and left a message. They haven't replied. They also didn't reply to a previous message which I sent to them at their site. Has anyone found that normally do or don't reply?
In any case, does anyone have an answer including the reasoning.
Thanks,
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In Reply to: Re: Which better, Gamo Hunter 440 or Beeman R9 posted by Swinson on August 10, 2000 at 17:38:18:
You can also do LOTS more to an R-9, aftermarket-wise. Stocks , tunes, etc. The Gamo?= Nada
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In Reply to: Thanks posted by Nik on August 10, 2000 at 17:12:05:
A Hyscore pistol is a bit different than the typical high-power springer of today. The O-ring construction and concentric piston is all pretty unique and it's a fairly low-powered gun, dieseling isn't so much of an issue.
One of the most unique air pistol designs ever made in the US, the Hyscore doesn't get as much attention as it perhaps deserves. If I could go back in time to 1950, one of the first things I would do is order one of every Hyscore 700/800 pistol. A complete set, including the all but unknown chrome versions, would be a sight to behold. It's the only set that I can think of that might be impossible to assemble today. Just finding a single chrome Hyscore would be tremendous, a complete set of chrome, and per the catalog they offered just about every version in chrome, is, perhaps, beyond reach.
I just took out the Hyscore material that I will be offering to Hyscore enthusists. Currently, the cost is $2 plus a large SASE. I will probably offer this via my webpage as soon as it is done.
By the way, the factory spec for the .177 caliber model was 450 fps and for the .22 caliber model it was 350 fps.
One flyer also has a banner: Hyscore 2 in 1 pellet & dart pistols. Wanting to shoot darts probably explains the reason for going with the weird loading mechanism.
DT Fletcher
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In Reply to: The wonderful world of airgunning... posted by Alan Galura on August 10, 2000 at 17:53:11:
Hello Alan ! RB
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In Reply to: A Rapid tale......Read and get sick....... posted by Derrin on August 09, 2000 at 23:08:22:
Surely you didn't mention the Career and the Supertwelve in the same manner. OWN BOTH ... THERE IS NO COMPARISON , NONE AT ALL. My Supertwelve makes me so happy , I think I'll burn my Career in the backyard and dance naked around it.
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In Reply to: Will everyone please post the URL for their personal Airgun site? posted by Josh P. on August 10, 2000 at 16:50:34:
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In Reply to: Re: PCP guns posted by Gruny on August 10, 2000 at 18:00:34:
I looked in the yellow pages and found one. It's in
Mainsfield. I think that how to spell it.
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In Reply to: Re: Career 707 questions posted by Swinson on August 10, 2000 at 17:46:18:
What about when you have a hand pump and it says you only get 40 high powered shots before the energy falls then how many times do you pump it up?
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In Reply to: CMP Crosman 160 posted by darmtn on August 10, 2000 at 18:09:36:
What condition are yours, stocks,blueing etc. I got
one that I think was never shot and is in
immaculate condition.
Tom L.
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In Reply to: Also try Lebaron posted by TCooper on August 10, 2000 at 18:08:11:
INTERNATIONAL IMPORTS for RWS pellets. They sell Meisterkugelns for $5.50 per tin, R-10s for $6.95, Hobby at $4.00.
Phone 416-242-8540 (Toronto).
I have bought over 20,000 pellets from International Imports.
They also sell high end target airguns by Anschutz and FWB.
If you like H&N pellets try CIBLES CANADA TARGETS. Call 819-778-8857.
H&N Finale Match at $7.50. H&N Match at $6.25. H&N Diablo Sport at $4.20.
High end FWB airguns also.
Later,
Todd
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In Reply to: How do I get a shoot? (Sorry if this has been asked before) (NT) posted by Dmitri on August 10, 2000 at 17:26:39:
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Fedex delivered another couple of these today. Was just thinking what a real deal these are right now. A 331 peep sight(selling for about $40 used at auction), new leather sling and swivels(about $24)That makes the adjustable trigger model 160 cost $61. The seals in the ones I got just took a couple drops of pellgun oil - don't we wish they used the same seals now!And it is fasinating that once you put the sight on, they all seem to be sighted in at 50ft. A true bargain.
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In Reply to: Thanks All posted by Michael A on August 10, 2000 at 11:27:41:
As keen airgunner/ humble timber merchant i have never had problem with this. It may be the Texas air [ Didn't some American general once say that if he owned Texas and Hell, he'd live in Hell and rent out Texas?] but likely it's that no matter how miserly/ sparingly you have applied the oil, you've probably used too much and tried to get a "finish" too quick. Try patience before you get the urge to reach for the brush and the varnish! It'll be well worth the wait - and you could check that what you've got is actually BOILED linseed oil and not raw.
Best regards,
Dave m
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In Reply to: For all you canadians... posted by s[i]lencer on August 09, 2000 at 20:56:21:
LeBaron is a Canadian mail order store with a limited airgun selection.
They sell the Benji 392/397 for $190.00, the RWS 34 for $345, the RWS 48 for $535.
They also sell most of the Crosman guns for great prices(ie. 1377 for $86).
Daisy guns and Crosman pellets too.
Catalogues are only $2.00. Call 1-800-567-3377.
I am not affiliated with this company.
FWIW,
Todd
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In Reply to: PCP guns posted by Cody Dotter on August 10, 2000 at 13:52:37:
My SCUBA tank (aluminum, 3000psi) was eighty bucks from a local dive shop (So Cal). You might have a local dive shop,; it might be hidden. I recently bought some dive stuff from a shop in Portland, Maine! Check yellow pages and such.
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In Reply to: A Serious Of Questions For The Experts. posted by David Hawk From CA on August 09, 2000 at 23:06:28:
Russ has (as usual) given you a clear and sensible answer. Over here in the UK I am frequently asked to fix airguns that have been "brought up to the 12 foot pound limit" by some idiot sticking in a longer/ stronger spring.
A good simple tune, adequate lubrication anda good balance between spring and seals will give a good accurate gun.
Power, without control, is useless in airguns - and most other things too, come to think of it!
Good luck
Dave m
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In Reply to: http://nscanuck.cjb.net/ posted by NS Canuck on August 10, 2000 at 17:17:07:
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I miss it!, decided to stop by and look at my old stompin grounds (don't know if any of y'all reckognize me). How is everyone doing? Is Josh still buggin everyone? just joking. well gotta go.
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In Reply to: Re: Driskill, regarding the HW45/P1..... posted by Driskill on August 10, 2000 at 07:46:54:
x
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In Reply to: Where's the best place to buy a BSA SS? (NT) posted by Mom T on August 10, 2000 at 15:40:34:
PSI.
Wonderful service, and have the SuperStar on special, too :-)
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In Reply to: Best looking pistol around...suggestions? posted by s[i]lencer on August 10, 2000 at 14:02:32:
In my view the most beautious pistol that has been in my hot and clammy hands was a Westley Richards "Highest Possible" - you may find it listed in antique airgun books. Beautifully made, balanced, cared for and horrendously priced!
Apart from that I'm with Driscoll on the FWB 65 and the old Original Model 10 - although for a beginner on a budget I feel that the Gamo Compact (earlier models) at least desrves a mention.
Kind regards
Dave M
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In Reply to: Career 707 questions posted by matt sudol on August 10, 2000 at 17:43:08:
Yes buy a pump or a scuba tank.
FPE of energy can go as high as about 80 or so in the .22 caliber long gun and there is no 707 in 9mm, I think it's called something else. As for FPE...I have no idea on that one.
Regards,
Craig
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In Reply to: Re: The best airgun (rifle or pistol) of all time posted by OKC on August 09, 2000 at 22:04:00:
Do you have an AR6 pistol? What do you think of it?
I'd like like to have a 12fpe+ air pistol.
Mike
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I have a few questions about this gun when you get the gun and only the gun you have to buy one of those hand pumps right? or do you use the fore arm to pump it up. I don't want one of these guns but just to make conversation for someone who might want one I have come up with that paticluar question. Second how many foot pounds does it put out with a 32 grain .22 and with a 60 grain 9mm?
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In Reply to: Re: RWS 54 is this a good gun ? posted by Marco on August 10, 2000 at 04:45:11:
That sums it up pretty well. Additional items:
Go .22. I had a .177 and it sucked.
It's more than just "heavy". It's _really_ heavy.
At altitude (6-10K feet) it had no power at all.
It's hell on scopes & mounts. Hell!
Oh, and did I mention it's heavy?
Mike
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In Reply to: Which better, Gamo Hunter 440 or Beeman R9 posted by Cry Havok on August 10, 2000 at 17:29:06:
Appearence is you're call, logevity and accuracy, the R-9 gets the nod.
Regards,
Craig
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In Reply to: Pre-charged guns: Question posted by Defiance on August 10, 2000 at 17:34:47:
A great place to start.
Regards,
Craig
http://www.straightshooters.com/common/airfaq.html
Is there a difference between CO2, PCP, and Compressed Air?
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In Reply to: Re: Beeman Firearms posted by Mark Lemm on August 10, 2000 at 02:12:51:
Don't know for sure, but I think they are still around. This is an old company, though not well-known here (they even made some nice airguns in the post-war years, see Smith's classic book).
Their firearm rifles have a modular trigger unit--your choice of sporter, match, or double-set styles. The gun I shot was a .22lr with silhouette stock--WOW.
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In Reply to: Problem with linseed oil stock finish posted by Michael A on August 09, 2000 at 21:10:02:
Linseedoil does dry very slowly, up to 2-3 weeks. I got an advise from a gunsmith once that i should let the oil dry between each coating and if i do so 10-15 coats will be enough. There is dry mediums that speeds up the drying process of linseedoil, artists that are painting with oilbased paint uses them and i know some guys that are using them when making knifehandles with good result, in Swedish they are named as "sickativ".
Mikael
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In Reply to: Will everyone please post the URL for their personal Airgun site? posted by Josh P. on August 10, 2000 at 16:50:34:
http://air_rifles.homestead.com/title.html
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Hey, I have the Gamo Hunter 440 and I'm wondering if I should return it and get a Beeman R9. Any comments are appreciated. I'm looking for accuracy and appearance. Thanks
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In Reply to: Will everyone please post the URL for their personal Airgun site? posted by Josh P. on August 10, 2000 at 16:50:34:
nt
nt
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In Reply to: My old beeman " airgun " posted by matt sudol on August 10, 2000 at 15:06:21:
the info is on the beeman page.
Http://www.beeman.com
then go to the products page, i forgot under what catagory but it should be obviouse.
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In Reply to: Technical Huntsman questions posted by chip on August 10, 2000 at 15:25:51:
My Huntsman mk2 .177 is set for ~850fps and gets
90-100 shots per fill.
Mike
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In Reply to: Looking for a descent scope for my daisy 990 ,any suggestions from you experts posted by Greg S on August 10, 2000 at 00:31:55:
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In Reply to: Will everyone please post the URL for their personal Airgun site? posted by Josh P. on August 10, 2000 at 16:50:34:
There it is!
In Reply to: Best looking pistol around...suggestions? posted by s[i]lencer on August 10, 2000 at 14:02:32:
Being an architect schooled in the "form follows function" approach, I prefer air pistols that look like air pistols. If I want something that looks like a firearm, I'll buy....a firearm.
The FWB 65 is a beautiful classic that will never be mistaken for a firearm. The Walther 53 and Webley Tempest manage to mimic the lines and proportions of powder-burners while retaining details that clearly say "airgun." And if abstract sculpture is your thing, check out the Pardini K58--pure, uniquely Italian, beauty.
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In Reply to: BEST RIFLE SO FAR posted by GT on August 10, 2000 at 16:09:28:
That is amazing... a .56 cal air rifle with 600+ ft. lbs.
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In Reply to: Re: Sheridan w/ red-dot? posted by Gary on August 10, 2000 at 16:19:48:
Standard 2 piece dovetailed mounts avaiable from crosman.
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In Reply to: Re: Need help with Hyscore Pistol posted by DT Fletcher on August 10, 2000 at 12:01:53:
Mr. Fletcher,
Thanks for the info. When I disassembled the pistol the lube certainly DID resemble axle grease. Whether it was the original lube, I cannot say, I've only owned it 2 years.
My other reason for using grease is that that seems to be the lube of choice for spring piston guns (although every site you visit seems to have a different idea) Also most people here recommend not using an oil in springers.?
I will try what you said and report the results.
Nik (AKA Junior Cadet)
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Does anyone own one of these or know about their performance?
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In Reply to: FWB P70 FT in " our " future???? posted by Bob Kelly on August 09, 2000 at 00:08:45:
I talked with him a couple of days ago and he's been working on the hammer and trigger for the Daystate CR series of guns. From what he told me he's had GREAT succes in lightening the hammer and associated bounce from it. In addition he's made the trigger much crisper. He feels it's right up there with the Anshutz or FWBP70 now and he's still tweaking it. Maybe he'll make a replacement kit for the Daystates! We can hope! ;^D
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I'm really bored and I'd like to check out other people's personal airgun sites.
Thanks-Josh P.
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In Reply to: Re: Technical Huntsman questions posted by Chip on August 10, 2000 at 16:38:11:
That is why I used the word "if"...
If you wanna do the work, go ahead and do a complete shot string, and if you're not sure where to find the sweet spot in the curve, feel free to e-mail me the numbers, and I'll have a look at em...
Regards,
DaveG
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In Reply to: Re: Technical Huntsman questions posted by DaveG on August 10, 2000 at 15:54:49:
Gun was filled to 2700 psi as per the Daystate
recomendation.
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In Reply to: Swinson... posted by DaveG on August 10, 2000 at 16:14:55:
hehehe Couldn't resist.
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In Reply to: My old beeman " airgun " posted by matt sudol on August 10, 2000 at 15:06:21:
Matt: Here in Oregon I've seen them down at the State Liquor Store. In addition to refreshments they also sell 8 gram CO2 Cartridges, 8 gram Nitrous Oxide Cartridges (they also sell these at the local Adult Bookstore - I'm told they're for whipped cream), and these Fly Shooters, Fly Zappers and other strange things. Strange but it does make perfect sense.
HTH - Steve B.
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In Reply to: Re: Sheridan w/ red-dot? posted by matt sudol on August 10, 2000 at 15:08:42:
How did you attach the red dot to the rifle? What kinda base did you use?
Gary
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In Reply to: Re: BEST RIFLE SO FAR posted by Swinson on August 10, 2000 at 16:13:46:
it is good to see you back amongst us!
Regards,
DaveG
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In Reply to: BEST RIFLE SO FAR posted by GT on August 10, 2000 at 16:09:28:
I hate to break it to ya but you say that this week...just wait till next week...the best rifle changes at least weekly for most. It's the nature of the beast.
Regards,
Craig
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In Reply to: Re: Technical Huntsman questions posted by DaveG on August 10, 2000 at 15:54:49:
I have a Daystate Harrier it seems to like a fill of 2600 psi with this fill and .22cal premeirs it starts out at 825fps climbs up to 850fps then down to 825fps after 36 shots.
Do as Dave says fill (3000psi) the gun and shoot 50 shots over the chrony recording each shot afterwars look at it and see where 25 fps spread is usally at the peak (top vel) look to both sides of it to determine the #of shots.
Hope this helps
MarkD
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I SAW IN THE NET THE BEST AIR RIFLE EVER MADE , TRY TO CHECK OUT THE URL BELOW AND SEE WHAT I MEAN.
THEY REALLY AWESOME. JUST PLAIN AWESOME.
http://ns.connext.net/~glbarnes/
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In Reply to: Pellet lubricant posted by Mustapha on August 10, 2000 at 09:55:28:
I've been using Thompson/Center Natural Lube 1000 Plus Bore Butter with group shrinking results in pneumatic and spring guns. I put dab in a pellet tin about half full of pellets, set it out in the sun to turn it liquid and then swirl the tin around to coat all the pellets. Don't care much for the smell, but it works good.
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In Reply to: " Kodiak Klub " or " Look at the muscles in my left forearm! " posted by Willey M on August 09, 2000 at 22:19:35:
Yeah that's what they all say but I never heard of Kodiak's making your palms hairy....I think you owe that forearm to sumthing else bub! Plus I see you are wearing glasses now...need I say more.
Regards,
Craig
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In Reply to: Where's the best place to buy a BSA SS? (NT) posted by Mom T on August 10, 2000 at 15:40:34:
Great people, great service.
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In Reply to: Apologize? posted by bearridge on August 10, 2000 at 13:48:36:
Thank you Bear! When I wrote my article/posts (about 2 dozen) I wrote them out first. I had to in order to be coherent. I still made typos (inspite of my best efforts) but you're right I did my best and I just want to say again, thank you for the appreciation. Makes it all worth while! ---- Take Care, Mike
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In Reply to: Re: Sheridan w/ red-dot? posted by matt sudol on August 10, 2000 at 15:08:42:
Thanks for the quick response! I'll take a look at both of them. A couple more questions: Do you recommend the Integramount from MAC-1 to do the mounting (I've heard nothing but good about it, but I'm also open to alternatives)? Do both of these sights have a nice range of adjustable intensities to compensate for shooting both indoors and out? About what subtention (size) is the dot? Lastly, do you know a good online source for either of these sights? (I'm kind of addicted to the ease of internet purchasing) Thanks in advance for more good advice.
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In Reply to: Where's the best place to buy a BSA SS? (NT) posted by Mom T on August 10, 2000 at 15:40:34:
I think Precision Sales is the sole importer of the Supersport.
-good luck
john from NY
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In Reply to: Technical Huntsman questions posted by chip on August 10, 2000 at 15:25:51:
There are more numbers that I would have to see in order to give you any real help...
What was the fill pressure at max? And when shot through the chrony, I would like to see all the numbers, say down through something like the 50th shot... What I would be looking for is the longest streak of consistant shots, say within 15fps of each other. I have seen quite a few Huntsmans, along with several Harriers being used, so it is doable... If you can find a spread that would yeild you something like 20 shots before needing to be topped off, that would be more than adequate. If the max fill was 3000 psi, you may find that you may be better off only filling to say 2800psi, if the shots that fall into that range are the most consistant. It takes quite a bit of work with the chrony, but it will pay off in the end...
Regards,
DaveG
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In Reply to: My old beeman " airgun " posted by matt sudol on August 10, 2000 at 15:06:21:
Matt,
I have one of those. Mine has a tan handle. I think that Beeman called them a "Flyshooter". Don't know if they are still avail. from anyone. I'm sure that Beeman was just one of many dealers for it.
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In Reply to: Where's the best place to buy a BSA SS? (NT) posted by Mom T on August 10, 2000 at 15:40:34:
Try the link below.
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In Reply to: My old beeman " airgun " posted by matt sudol on August 10, 2000 at 15:06:21:
I rememb er it as the "Flyshooter" or something like that. Worked great on flies. I didnt see it in their new catalogue but a phone call might help as they might have an old one in stock.
I would be surprised if they had any collector value, interesting though. Ill have to see if I can find mine.
Doug Law
Nevada Airgun Addict
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I have a Huntsman mk 2 and just chronoed it for
35 shots. In .177 cal. shooting CP 10.5s, How
quickly should the velocity fall off ?
At the beginning of the string it is shooting
at 933.6 and by the tenth shot, its shooting at
924.2..........at the twentieth shot, its at 904.1
........and at thirty shots, Its at 879.1.
The gun seems to be shooting acurately enough for
play but, does not seem consistant enough for
field target and would have to be topped up too
often durring a match.
Do these figures seem normal or can they be
improved ?
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In Reply to: Looking for an Airgun posted by Eli on August 09, 2000 at 23:14:26:
My first air rifle was surprisingly accurate and cost les than $50. It is a Marksman Biathalon trainer. I have since added a daisy "red dot" site for about $15 and have been pleased with it's performance.
I have since moved up to an RWS 34 and don't find that it shoots that much better alhough it is considerably more powerful.
I am now upgrading to the Beeman R11 MKII.
The Marksman is great for plinking and I would highly reccomend it for someone just beginning.
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In Reply to: Re: Thumbs up to UPS posted by RBest on August 10, 2000 at 00:03:20:
Good fishing is an understatment. If you like to fish this place is hard to top.
I just got back from fishing there and I can honestly say that I've never caught so much salmon and halibut in my life.
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In Reply to: Re: Safety posted by Jon F. on August 10, 2000 at 14:57:32:
That's wright. I will not be playing with it. I'm
not an airsmith. My Dad will help me too. I'll
probably buy an axor pump anyway.
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In Reply to: Re: Scuba tank... posted by JonF. on August 10, 2000 at 15:00:14:
Top off PCP's. I string my tanks...3000PSI tanks at 80 or 100 CF for filling and then topping with the 3300 or 4500 tank depending on where I am (I have tanks at different houses). I would suggest that you get a $40 adapter for the 4500 that only lets it bleed out max of 3500 PSI (sort of like an inline regulator) Granted I think most guns tanks are rated to twice their fill pressure, a lot of the componenets inbetween are not.
One advantage to the 4500 PSI tank is that you can get it filled at a paintball shop ( as there are several where I live)
Regards,
Craig
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In Reply to: Re: Sheridan w/ red-dot? posted by Gary on August 10, 2000 at 15:06:19:
I have used them on the b/s very good out to 35 40 yards tops for pigeons and squirrels both tasco and simmons are 1" tubes with battery opperation. Very good on a non-recoil gun.
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In Reply to: Re: Safety posted by Jon F. on August 10, 2000 at 14:57:32:
It's the 3K psi air bottles that I have a problem with. High pressure air form a leaking fitting can inject under the skin and get into the bloodstream and kill you. A tank with the valve sheared off from being dropped will turn into a missle that will go through a cinder block building. Very serious stuff. Not for an 11 year old. As for parents, unless they are trained scuba divers, it's unlikely that they would have the appropriate safety training either.
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About 8 years ago my grandfather bought this gun it looked really cool to an 7 year old I would take that thing everywhere and blast ants , flys and bees on the flowers that is how good of a shot I was. The gun was as follows 3" projectile connected to 2 feet of string on a gun powered by a spring used for shooting flys. It has a label on it that says beeman and is made by beeman with a blue handle. Anyone know how much this is worth now? Do they still make them?
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In Reply to: Re: Sheridan w/ red-dot? posted by matt sudol on August 10, 2000 at 14:46:02:
Matt
What are the red dots your are talkin about? Have you put them on a B/S or Sheridan? How do they mount to the rifle?
Thanks
Gary
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In Reply to: Re: Scuba tank... posted by Swinson on August 10, 2000 at 12:25:54:
What do you use the 4500 CF for? Is it on a Pball gun or do you use it to fill up Pcps?
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In Reply to: Re: Scuba tank... posted by Swinson on August 10, 2000 at 12:25:54:
What do you use the 4500 CF for? Is it on a Pball gun or do you use it to fill up Pcps?
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In Reply to: Safety posted by DougWall on August 10, 2000 at 14:50:10:
He won't be playing with it! And with a little education and some help from an adult don't you think he'll be fine? Or, Cody, you could just get an axor pump and a career that won't need filling very often.
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In Reply to: PCP guns posted by Cody Dotter on August 10, 2000 at 13:52:37:
Cody,
Part of my job is as a safety specialist. I'm sorry, but I don't think that an 11 year old should be playing around with 3000 psi air bottles. Mistakes with 3000 psi air can kill people.
Stick to pump ups, springers or CO2.
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In Reply to: Sheridan w/ red-dot? posted by Patrick on August 10, 2000 at 14:35:06:
Simmons makes a great little red dot site for about 60 dollars and so does tasco for 90 dollars both will preform amazing on your gun.
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In Reply to: Re: PCP guns posted by Cody Dotter on August 10, 2000 at 14:42:36:
Hey Cody, your 11 right? Well I'm 15 and was just like you! I bet you got a list of guns that you shall own! Keep asking questions and you'll learn!
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Our next IFP match will be shot monday evening at Marion county Fish & Game on Indys west side. If you need directions just e me.Thanks Anthony Storey
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In Reply to: Re: PCP guns posted by Jon F. on August 10, 2000 at 14:34:34:
Thanks Mr. F! <:-@
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In Reply to: Re: Joe, your complete answer is here.... posted by bcd on August 08, 2000 at 22:13:14:
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In Reply to: Re: PCP guns posted by Swinson` on August 10, 2000 at 14:30:47:
Thanks Mr. Swinson! <:-@
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I've had my used Sheridan for about a year now and thoroughly enjoy it for both indoor target shooting and some pest control, mostly starlings. It's very accurate with the open sights and with a homebuilt peep that I made for it. I was thinking about scoping it, but have been told not to for various reasons. What about a nice short red-dot sight? It seems that would eliminate some of the concerns while providing most of the benefits. If this idea has merit, can anyone recommend a decent sight? I've seen both the Tasco and Aimpoint models on handguns, but never on a rifle. Is there a sight that will fit in standard 1" scope rings? Thanks for any advice.
Patrick
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In Reply to: PCP guns posted by Cody Dotter on August 10, 2000 at 13:52:37:
Air just like you breath outside is what is used. Oxygen is very combustible and would be hazerdous!
The air outside contains mostly nitrogen, some hydrogen and a bit of oxygen. The resivoir on the Huntsman is fixed so you can't buy more and interchange like a CA tanker. I think the Huntsman gets 90 shots at 12 Ftlbs so at 50 ftlbs(max) you'd probably get about 20 shots. I think I've heard the price to fill a scuba tank is maybe $5? so figure how many times you could fill the gun and divide. You can(and are supposed to) keep Pcp resivoirs full at least partly. And yes the Hunstman would be able to blast stuff with the 30/32 ARS pellets! But I would not get the MKII, the PH6 is a repeater and is regulated for an advertised velocity variation of only +/- 5fps!
COOOOLLL!!!!
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In Reply to: PCP guns posted by Cody Dotter on August 10, 2000 at 13:52:37:
1. No they use air, oxygen is BAD, air is good.
2. No dive shop no air welding shops do not have what you need.
3. If you mean SCUBA tank, lots...like hundreds...problem is that as the power drops below 3000PSI in the SCUBA tank you can't fill the gun to "full pressure" and get less useable shots.
4. Scuba tank refills run from $2-$5 mostly.
5.No, The huntsman has a permanently attached "tank" you fill that "tank" from the SCUBA tank.
6. You can store air for a very long time
7. Yes the huntsman shoots Eley bullets and big Korean domes nicely.
8. SCUBA setups cost about $250 for all the stuff you need.
9. You can always buy an axsor pump to fill the gun, you're young. They cost about $185.
Regards,
Craig
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In Reply to: Is this it? posted by LarryH on August 10, 2000 at 11:27:32:
I have one of the 400gx which is the same gun as the old 400 in black except for the gold frame.I ordered mine directly from daisy for 48.00 at www.daisy.com
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Judging purely by appearance i would say either the gamo p23 (love sig pistols) or the PPk/s
how bout u guys?
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In Reply to: Read this post! posted by Michael A on August 09, 2000 at 17:37:11:
My point was, that the majority of the people out there, possibly his neighbors included, are not rabidly anti-gun. They may be fence sitters, and when election time comes around, I'd rather have pulled them onto my side of the fence than forcibly pushed them to the other! Think a little about how your words and actions can be taken the wrong way. I didn't say give in to them but I still maintain that a civil approach will accomplish more in the long run.
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In Reply to: Re: WOW! posted by RBest on August 09, 2000 at 22:41:50:
I would imagine that the UPS guy busts his a$$ regularly out there. I lived out there for a few years, and everything is ordered through catalogs and over the internet. Lots of stuff to get to people. There may not be lots of shipments to that part of the Kenai, but Alaska is the land of mail order.
FWIW,
docwells
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In Reply to: Re: How much $ is the Daystate Huntsman MK2? (nt) posted by Sammy on August 10, 2000 at 13:28:54:
What the price of the FAC version in .22 cal.?
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Do PCP guns use oxygen? I don't have a dive shop near
me. Would welding suply shops have oxygen? How many
shots would the Daystate Huntsman MK2 on full power
shoot with a full tank? How much money does it
cost to fill the tank on PCP guns? Can I buy more
tanks for the Huntsman MK2? Could I store the tank
full of oxygen. For how long? And finally could the
Huntsman shoot 32 grain pellets?
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In Reply to: Sorry guys, let me try to extricate my foot for a minute, posted by BCall on August 09, 2000 at 19:44:27:
Bill,
I thought it was a good post. It is basically a
matter of respect for others. MBoyle does a good
job under difficult circumstances, but I know he
usually does his best out of respect for the rest
of us.
You can usually tell when someone has so little
respect for wasting the time of others that they
(a) won't do any research and/or (b) haven't make
an effort to check their post to see if it is
reasonably clear and easy to read. [We all drop
the ball every now and then.]
Russ is in a different category. Anyone who
averages 3,467 posts a day is bound to make a few
mistakes...not many, but gosh. (Chuckle) If I
tried to post as often as Russ, my posts would look
like that Chinese spam I keep getting.
I recall Mike Pearson once admitting that sometimes
he actually handwrites his messages before
posting. Now that's a little more respect than
we should expect from the average poster, but then
there's nothing average about Mike either.
Thanks for the good points.
bearridge
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In Reply to: How much $ is the Daystate Huntsman MK2? (nt) posted by Cody Dotter on August 10, 2000 at 12:49:28:
Cody
Check with Zacch Smith and Rodney Boyce. Back in
April the had them for $584.00 and $595.00 recpectfuly.
They are both Daystate dealers.
E-mail for them
Zacch Smith zlc1@aol.com
Rodney Boyce rrrboyce@webtv.net
IHS
Joe W.
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In Reply to: How much $ is the Daystate Huntsman MK2? (nt) posted by Cody Dotter on August 10, 2000 at 12:49:28:
There is sort of a "price fix" on Daystates in the US. now when I say price fix I don't mean it in a bad way. What I mean is that Airguns of Arizona is the Dist. for Daystate in the US (as well they sell directly to the public) You will be hard pressed to find a "deal" on a Daystate but you will also rarely if ever get screwed on a deal on a Daystate. All things being equal it also alows the small time "dealer" like Rodney Boyce (I don't think he has a HUGE inventory) to sell and compete with the "big boys" like airguns of arizona. All things being equal I'd buy from Rodney or AOA, in that order. As you can have Rodney tweak the heck out of it and set it up to perfection. Plus Roney is a REALLY nice guy (not saying AOA can't or isn't but Rodney is a true legend.)
Regards,
Craig
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In Reply to: old eyes and red dot sights posted by ^tg^ on August 10, 2000 at 10:03:53:
I wear the no line bifocals(Progressive Lenses) and at first hated them. However after about 3 weeks I adjusted and now 2 years later would not trade them for anything.
I have had good luck with the red dot sight and I don't think you can go wrong with a good red dot. However my long distance vision has been bad my whole life so even though my short distance vision has gotten to be a problem in recent years, I still prefer a magnified scope on my airguns.
Good luck.
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Doers anyone here own one? Please post your thoughts and comments on this gun... =)
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In Reply to: How much $ is the Daystate Huntsman MK2? (nt) posted by Cody Dotter on August 10, 2000 at 12:49:28:
About $660 and up, for the Mk II, I just purchased a Mk II Delux .20 Cal. from Robert, at Air Guns of Arizona for $798, and it is worth every penny. Nice marble walnut stock, beautiful air rifle, beautiful finish, and extreamly accurate. From my pleasant dealings with him, I highly recommend him.
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In Reply to: How much $ is the Daystate Huntsman MK2? (nt) posted by Cody Dotter on August 10, 2000 at 12:49:28:
Daystate Huntsman MkII $659.00 at Pomona Airguns.
Daystate Huntsman MkII Deluxe $789.00 at Pomona Airguns.
I found that Walmart now sells the heavy Premiers for $3.96
a can of 250 pellets, I have a RWS 36 in .177.
Will those heavy pellets damage my gun?
Your answer will be appreciated
Thanks, Horace
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In Reply to: WHICH IS BETTER? posted by T LUCKIE on August 10, 2000 at 10:49:22:
Do they make them as good as they did 40 years ago? In my opinion (for whatever that's worth) I say no they don't. I have several vintage pneumatics (Crosman, Benjamin, & Sheridan) and they are all built like the proverbial brick poop house. Today's reincarnations are not of the same build quality. That being said, I can't speak first hand, but I have read many postings about the steroid treatments performed by Mac-1. If I were going to get a new pneumatic, I would go with the Benjamin 342 or Sheridan C9 and have Mac-1 do the full treatment.
Good luck and happy hunting
-jon-
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In Reply to: Looking for an Airgun posted by Eli on August 09, 2000 at 23:14:26:
and I got several recommendations for the QB-88. It's available from South Summit for $50 plus shipping (and comes with FREE Ginsu knives! Really!) I added a Tasco scope for $7 from K-Mart.
It's my first gun, and budget was paramount in my decsion process. I didn't want anything multi-pump, or CO2 powered. I'm very pleased with it. Most readers of this site will agree that this is a great first adult air rifle.
There's an exhaustive review of this gun here:
http://myhome.zaobao.com/home/a/airgun/airgun/index.htm
hth,
Dan.
In Reply to: Cheap laser-sight for your Airgun posted by Znagge on August 10, 2000 at 12:49:50:
Jag tyckte att det så väldigt bra ut ska prova det :).
mvh
Beffe
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In Reply to: old eyes and red dot sights posted by ^tg^ on August 10, 2000 at 10:03:53:
My first attempt at using bifocals for shooting did not work out well. I was using the progressive (no line) type lenses. I found myself often inadvertantly looking through the close focus areas of the lenses. I solved the problem by going to a standard type bifocal with the "D" shaped close focus area in the smaller size (25 mm?). I also had the top of the close focus area positioned slightly lower than normal. Since you normally tip your head down a little when looking through rifle sights, this works well. For shooting with metallic sights you can buy a diopter attachment for your glasses to get keep the front sight in acceptable focus, or do like I did and get a second pair of glasses with the magnification of the distance (upper) portion of the lenses selected to focus sharply at about 4 feet.
Good luck,
Chuck
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In Reply to: Re: A Rapid tale......Read and get sick.......Sure Swinson 1/2 " is 1/2 " n/t posted by Anthony on August 10, 2000 at 12:49:32:
Yeah I was just thinking that sometimes half inch on the PC and what is printed is sometimes vastly different but if he measures them it should be smack daddy on.
Regards,
Craig
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In Reply to: WHICH IS BETTER? posted by T LUCKIE on August 10, 2000 at 10:49:22:
I guess it's the old 397 v. 392 debate which will go down in history as one that equals the 9mm v. 45 cal. Very simple the 392 is PERFECT for pests and most shooting. Plus you get the added benefit of being able to steroid it (as steroiding a 397 is a waste of good money, or so I have been told by the man that does them)
Regards,
Craig
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In Reply to: old eyes and red dot sights posted by ^tg^ on August 10, 2000 at 10:03:53:
On my FWB65 my good reddot will allow me dimes at 25yds
On my RWS54 I can do quarters at 75yds with a good reddot sight
I've been wareing bi's for ten years now.
make sure you use a good reddot with at leist 10 adjustments for light intensity.
You get what you pay for.
Aloha John
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In Reply to: Where can I see a pic of a Daisy model 400? nt posted by Defiance on August 10, 2000 at 11:06:02:
It is called Desert Eagle, I had one totally black more than 4 years, it is good within 10 meters.
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I made a home-made laser-sight this Tuesday, and i thought i share how i did.
You can find it here: http://www.oktv.se/hemsida/timo.sivonen/laser/index_eng.html
Enjoy, and please post some comments about it :)
Extremely fun shooting with laser.. I would recommend to everyone to try :)
In Reply to: Re: A Rapid tale......Read and get sick....... posted by Swinson on August 10, 2000 at 10:49:40:
n/t
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In Reply to: Re: A Rapid tale......Read and get sick....... posted by Swinson on August 10, 2000 at 10:49:40:
But be sure to glue them on to a stiff cardboard backing for a real clean read.
JMO,
Stocky
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In Reply to: My new neighbors posted by Curt on August 09, 2000 at 15:51:19:
For laws you gotta check locally. There are several issues: leagal to own and legal to shoot in your town, on your property, bla bla bla is another thing.
As well even if it is legal to do they seem to be building a "disturbing the peace" case, which they can prove as they have asked and have "numbers" in their favor.
A story I can relate:
I've lived with my girlfriend this last year (in a hell hole I might add) there is a great parcel of land within 10 yards of where we live. Well I had the permission of the landlord to use that land (his land) to shoot. Well the people who own the two houses behind us (Mother and Son) never said anything to me but would call my landlord every time I would shoot (read: every day) They would drive by and wave and stop and say hello and all the time they are complaining to my landlord. Then one day I see a couple guys hiding in the bushes. I put down my gun and walk over to them and find out it's the shift commander and a detective from the local PD. I start talking to them and find out that my neighbors had been calling the police when calling the landlord didn't work. They had said that I had automatic weapons, been firing rounds at their house, threatened them etc and so on. Well we all paid a visit to them later on that day and explained how much trouble you can get in filing a false report, how that detracts the police from doing their duty bla bla bla. I told them if they wanted me to stop shooting there all they had to do was ask, the landlord also gave me about 80 acres to shoot on about a mile away but this was just easier. End of the story, I only shoot on the 80 acre parcel now and the neighbors got the scare of their lives when relating false reports to the police.
What does this have to do with you, you've been "politely" warned by the neighbors, I'm sure they could make it harder on you and you may not really have a leg to stand on. Don't feel guilty just realize you live in a gun unfriendly neighborhood. Best bet is to find a range to shoot at because even though you might be able to shoot on your land, it seems it bothers others and are infact disturbing the peace. Rarely do good things come when law enforcement shows up at your house.
Regards,
Craig
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I remember seeing a post by Rick a week ago, telling the info on the Ohio FT shoot thats in Youngstown.
I cant find the info anywhere... Can someone tell me the date and times?
I got good news too. I wont be going back to the military school Ive been going to in Texas, my parents found a local private school that looks better. This means I can go to FT meets!
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What is the recommended maximum number of pumps for
a Crosman 101? Thanks.
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In Reply to: P-3 posted by TCooper on August 10, 2000 at 07:39:01:
Thanks for the info.
Gary
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In Reply to: Re: RX-1 BARREL PROBLEM posted by bill on August 10, 2000 at 11:43:57:
There is absolutely no need to take the barrel to anywhere and waste money. A barrel needn't be 100% straight to be accurate. If you already bend it back, leave it along and enjoy.
MikeZ
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In Reply to: Re: Scuba tank... posted by Steve in CT on August 10, 2000 at 08:34:39:
Me I always thought that the alum v. steel was an issue of rust on the "inside" of the tank? As for 3500 PSI and 120 CF, most 3500 PSI tanks have a crazy din adapter that needs an added adapter. Me I like the 3200 100 CF tanks (most of my tanks are alum). That being said I have like 9 tanks now to include a 4500 PSI tank made out of carbon fiber laminate...it's scary to look at but supposed to be supremely safe (the paintball guys run around with them all day and beat them to death).
As for the alum v. steel safety debate...I think they are both very safe, I think the biggest problem is in the way people store them, ask for them to be over filled, and how they sometimes don't heed the recertification procedure. Me I "trade" in my tanks for new every five years (I've only done 4 so far) and they have been in much better shape then ANY of the other tanks my dive shop has seen. I do make it a practice not to mix my diving tanks with my airgun tanks, but that's just me.
Regards,
Craig
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In Reply to: WHICH IS BETTER? posted by T LUCKIE on August 10, 2000 at 10:49:22:
nt
In Reply to: Need help with Hyscore Pistol posted by Nik on August 09, 2000 at 15:12:50:
"My vintage Hyscore 800 was working just fine when I had to take it apart and clean out the 30 year old lube"
I love this. It should be framed and hung in every airgun shop.
It seems, about the only thing that can stop a Hyscore from working is a Junior Cadet Air Gun Wrench. "axle grease"?! By chance, did you detect anything resembling axle grease when you took this wonderful gun, that had been working perfectly for 40 years, apart?! Jimmy' Crickets!
First, try to clean out all of the gunk that you have injected into the system. Get it all as clean as possible. The only lube I would use would be some Crosman oil to keep things from rusting. Assemble the gun otherwise clean. All the stuff you are using will slow things down and will accumulate dirt and grit.
The Hyscore manual suggests that occasionally a few drops of heavy oil (Crosman Oil)should be placed on the piston head as it appears in the slot after cocking. A few drops of oil wiped on gun for storage. Nothing else is needed. And pease keep the axle grease, and other such things, away from vintage airguns.
dt fletcher
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In Reply to: Re: RX-1 BARREL PROBLEM posted by bill on August 10, 2000 at 11:43:57:
Some barrels have a "wandering bore" from the manufacturing process and these barrels are straightened so the bore is straight, not the OD of the barrel. Making a gun barrel straight on the outside may mess up a straight bore that was on the inside.
Regards, wved
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In Reply to: RX-1 BARREL PROBLEM posted by Fabio on August 10, 2000 at 08:31:08:
Remove the barrel from the gun and take it to a machine shop that resurfaces engine heads for engines. They should have a steel plate called a template by som. They will put dye of the template, roll your barrel across it and the dye coating left on the barrel will tell them how its bent so they can straighten it. Anew barrel is about $105 plus some small parts and shipping.If you are outside the u.S. this could be expensive. The alternative is to take it to a good gunsmith who has experience in this area.Good luck.
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In Reply to: Looking for an Airgun posted by Eli on August 09, 2000 at 23:14:26:
It's cheap, around 70 dollars at local sports authority or K-mart or some store like that. Good power, .22 caliber at 550fps. Good accuracy with the scope it includes. Only drawback is it's CO2 powered. But they make a pump version, the 2289. Check it out.
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In Reply to: Looking for tuned springer posted by FredC on August 10, 2000 at 09:07:16:
Hey Fred,
First of all thanks for the hospitality that you showed Lori and I last weekend.
We had a wonderful time.
I have a JM FT tuned TX-200 with a 4.5x20x40 Leupold EFR in near new condition
that I am considering selling. I too have considered what your talking about but find
myself frustrated that I can't begin to shoot it as well as my CR-X.
Sometimes I regret not sticking with the TX longer and developing my skills before picking up the PCP.
But for me, for now, there's no going back.
E-me if your interested.
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In Reply to: Obviously we will never see eye to eye on this... posted by DaveG on August 10, 2000 at 09:11:40:
Are there any details on the P 75 as yet? Thanks
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In Reply to: Just curious...are there any air pistols which resemble the Desert Eagle?.......nt posted by Steve T on August 10, 2000 at 09:38:56:
Check out this URL
http://goldentoller.freeyellow.com/daisy400gx.htm
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In Reply to: Problem with linseed oil stock finish posted by Michael A on August 09, 2000 at 21:10:02:
Michael
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In Reply to: Where can I see a pic of a Daisy model 400? nt posted by Defiance on August 10, 2000 at 11:06:02:
I'm not sure if this is what you're looking for but check it out:
http://goldentoller.freeyellow.com/daisy400gx.htm
Semi Auto pellet pistol. Hope it helps.
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In Reply to: WHICH IS BETTER? posted by T LUCKIE on August 10, 2000 at 10:49:22:
I agree with Karl. The 20 is a real good compromise in caliber. Much more energy to the target with 20 over the 177. I can't remember the exact number but it was much much greater. I think the 20 with the Sheridan is about the best caliber the pumper. It does make a bit of noise though.
Gary
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In Reply to: Re: Problem with linseed oil stock finish posted by DougWall on August 09, 2000 at 22:23:20:
Doug,
The thought has occured to me but I am concerned that here in Texas it might put an orange peel or otherwise dimple or ripple onto the finish. I might try it once it dries to a certain point. Either that or irradiate it with gamma rays. ;)
Thanks,
Michael
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In Reply to: BSA old springer early 1900's... posted by Alan in GA on August 09, 2000 at 20:55:22:
All depends, there are many variations, and manufacturers, of the old BSA-style gun. Value can range from $100 to $750. Few of the guns that I've seen here in the US have ever tempted me. I would avoid most any German mfg gun, except perhaps a Falke or one of the weird Hanaels. The collectables are the BSA Improved Model D, Lincoln Jeffries (rare), or Greener (ultra rare) The Greener Air Rifle is sorta the Brit version of the Sheridan Super Grade with a cool lever on the side that gently sits the barrel for every shot.
Collectors note: Be aware that almost any of the BSA-style gun, especially if originally used in Britain, would have likely been abused by applying oil to the exhaust port for that extra bit of power. Because of this, condition is everything with these guns. If the gun appears to be near mint original condition and shoots well then it is probably a good investment. My experience has been that most of these guns are found to be in poor condition
Anyone interested in collecting these guns needs to get a copy of John Knibbs book and also a copy of Frank Spittle's Ring My Bell - An Old Black Country Sport.
I've brought this up before, have any of you ever wondered for what purpose is the small dimple on the face of the old Brit pellets like is still found today on the Elay Wasp? Frank Spittle tells all about it in his great book, Ring My Bell. Besides this interesting bit of trivia, I think Frank tells a story that is perhaps more important in the history of the airgun in the 20th century than we'll ever know. Anyone interested in collecting these guns will certainly appreciate them all the more when they read about their role in history.
dt fletcher
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In Reply to: Re: Problem with linseed oil stock finish posted by bcd on August 09, 2000 at 21:26:32:
Thanks; since I stippled the stock I will probably use a chemical stripper rather than steel wool, if I get to that.
Regards,
Michael
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In Reply to: Re: Problem with linseed oil stock finish posted by Earl on August 09, 2000 at 21:50:36:
Earl,
Thanks. You are right in that each coat did not completely dry; they were always slightly tacky. If I waited for each coat to dry I would probably have finished third quarter of 2004.
Thanks again,
Michael
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In Reply to: Re: Problem with linseed oil stock finish...YOUR THERE... posted by Steve B. on August 09, 2000 at 21:56:08:
Steve,
Thanks for the info. The surface is slightly tacky to the feel, but hard enough that there is no way that a towel will rub it off. If I touch it, I leave no fingerprints. I think I'll leave it in my hot garage for a week and see what happens. Thanks again.
Michael
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In Reply to: WHICH IS BETTER? posted by T LUCKIE on August 10, 2000 at 10:49:22:
Personally, I would go with a Bigger caliber, like .20 or .22 and sacrafice a little velocity. But just remember that there are practical limits both ways. In my opinion, I like at least 600fps out of a .20 or .22 at minimum, or if I'm using a .177, I like to see 800fps or more for most close range hunting. Again, I'm talking in very general terms here but the bigger diameter pellet will usually do a little better.
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In Reply to: Problem with linseed oil stock finish posted by Michael A on August 09, 2000 at 21:10:02:
I use tung oil. Apply it it in light coats with a cotton ball or two, rub with bare fingers until it starts to shine. Leave dry 24 hours, polish with a soft cloth and repeat the tung oil application. Very expensive furniture finishes are of this type. The good thing is you can put it on whenevr you want without sanding and it is a sturdy finish, doesn't look cheap.
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In Reply to: Looking for tuned springer posted by FredC on August 10, 2000 at 09:07:16:
Hey Fred, want to be a pistonhead huh. JM new web site
is below. I don't think he is doing tunes but you might
call him. He is still making kits though.
Russ Best tunes HW's but I don't know about TX's.
Ken Reeves does TX's and I have been told he is good.
His number is 419-837-6459.
IHS
Joe W.
In Reply to: Re: A Rapid tale......Read and get sick....... posted by Anthony Storey on August 10, 2000 at 05:00:36:
He could use Ian's software to print some half inch and three quarter inch circles maybe? The IFP target looks a lot like the BRV stuff and the BRV stuff looks a lot like the Ian stuff. As long as they are 1/2 inch measuerd they should be fine?
Regards,
Craig
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I am trying to decide between a lower cal faster rifle or a higher cal slower rifle. My primary purpose for the gun will be to rid my yard of unwanted pest. My father has a Benjamin that is probally 40 years old, and still shots great. Do they still make them as well as they did 40 years ago?
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In Reply to: Pellet lubricant posted by Mustapha on August 10, 2000 at 09:55:28:
I use Slick One or Mystery Marvel Oil.Use only 2-3 drops in the bottom of the pellet container.Let can warm on your hand so the oil will spread around the can. Replace pellets in can and shake gently.I wash and dry CP's because most of them are very dirty (lead dust apparently).
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In Reply to: daystate huntsman posted by J. Thomas on August 10, 2000 at 09:23:31:
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In Reply to: QB-1 Bulk CO2 Rifle Available for $19 ... posted by JackG on August 10, 2000 at 10:21:25:
fy1- Golden Toller sells a 12 gram adapter kit for the QB-1. For those of you who did get the good $19 deal.
Jack
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In Reply to: Pellet lubricant posted by Mustapha on August 10, 2000 at 09:55:28:
Mix 2 parts of Hoppes gun lube (Not powder solvent) with 1 part STP. You 'll be very happy.
This is fro PCP's and not Springers
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In Reply to: QB-1 Bulk CO2 Rifle Available for $19 ... posted by JackG on August 10, 2000 at 10:21:25:
For some reason the URLs didn't get in the last message. Here they are:
http://www.funsupply.com/airguns/qb1.html
http://www.funsupply.com/airguns/qb1improve.html
http://olympia.fortunecity.com/kickbox/377/qb1_index.html#top
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This is a rifle with a folding stock that looks kind of like an AK-47. There's a lot of info about it -- and how it can be modified -- at the three webpages whose links are below.
You can order the QB-1 from Kiesler Wholesale (Tel: 1-888-kiesler, FAX: 1-812-285-5095) in Indiana. They were selling this for only $39 + $5 S/H, but it's now only $19! (Guess they weren't selling well.)
It comes with 2 bulk co2 canisters that hold about 40 grams which you need to fill from a larger paint ball tank (adaptor included). I ordered one on Monday that arrived yesterday and was told there were not too many left. I haven't yet "charged it up" (don't have a bulk co2 paintball tank yet) and tried it, but for $19 plus a reasonable shipping charge, I won't lose much even if I don't like it at all.
Anyone out there have additional thoughts or experience with the QB-1? If so, please post.
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In Reply to: Re: FWB P70 FT in " our " future???? posted by Swinson on August 09, 2000 at 23:28:44:
I would be very greatful if you could send "anything".
Thank you very much for your response.
Bob Kelly
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bifocals(i hate them!!)hard for me to use the telescope and binos anymore and am curious if a red dot sight would be a better choice than a scope? Any suggestions from bifocal wearer's with experience will be appreciated
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In Reply to: Pellet lubricant posted by Mustapha on August 10, 2000 at 09:55:28:
What type of gun are you using?
Slick 50 1lube works great for pcp's
Pledge works OK for springers... (yes, it is a polish... Wax based, and dries on the pellets, so there is little or no chance for it to leach down into the compression chamber... no deiseling)
Regards,
DaveG
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Can anyone recommend a good lubricant for pellets.
I've heard of everything from slick 50 to pledge (isn't the latter one polish?)
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In Reply to: Re: What is a postal shoot????? (nt) posted by Charlie on August 09, 2000 at 19:04:10:
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In Reply to: Who has shot the Daisy 400GX and the Model 45? posted by A. Roehm on August 10, 2000 at 02:11:38:
I have an old-style Daisy 45, back when it looked like a Colt 1911. It's interesting in that it's the only TRUE magazine fed pellet pistol I know of--all the rest that claim to be magazine fed are really clip fed, or revolvers. It holds 13 shots, wadcutters only, has non-adjustable sights and a rifled steel barrel. The accuracy is around 1-2" at 10m, and the trigger is rather heavy, about on par with the Crosman 1008. If you want a high capacity pellet pistol, it's the only game in town. If you just want high capacity, I'd reccommend the Daisy 93/693; it's a smoothbore BB gun, and only shoots about 2-3" at 10m, but it's 15 shots and has a much nicer trigger than the Crosman or the model 45.
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In Reply to: Just curious...are there any air pistols which resemble the Desert Eagle?.......nt posted by Steve T on August 10, 2000 at 09:38:56:
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In Reply to: Re: YES, the RWS 54 is a good gun! What about the 48? posted by Roland Martens on August 10, 2000 at 08:56:03:
Hi Roland Martens! I saw on your web site about
the RWS Model 54. You hit a sardine can at
84 yards. Would the Model 48 do that too?
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In Reply to: Re: FWB P70 FT in " our " future???? posted by Swinson on August 09, 2000 at 23:28:44:
...on your offer. I assume your email address is the same as before. If you don't receive the email tihin ten minutes of this posting time, then please email me your new address.
Thanks for taking the time,
Robert.
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Anyone got any reviews on this gun? Accuracy? How's the trigger? I have been shooting a blue streak for about 16 years and want to move a lttle farther up the food chain.
thanks in advance,
John ô¿ô
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In Reply to: Obviously we will never see eye to eye on this... posted by DaveG on August 10, 2000 at 09:11:40:
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In Reply to: P3 and Tasco RED DOT sight - Info Requested posted by TinkerMan on August 10, 2000 at 09:10:16:
Can't help you with much but I can tell ya what I saw. I was lookin at the P3 just yesterday. The guy at the shop had a cheap red dot on it. I think you have to mount it pretty far forward so you can close the action when loading. If you have it back it will be in the way.
Gary
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In Reply to: You may be right... posted by RSO on August 09, 2000 at 16:58:15:
The fact IS that FWB IS building an F/T gun based on the P70... It will be released as the P75 in the very near future... This is a fact, not some sort of fiction.
I do not share the same ominous opinion about the future of air rifles as you do, or for shooting sports in general, and feel quite confident that I will be able to enjoy them for many more years to come... It's my right as an American, and nobody is going to take that away from me quietly...
As far as the viability of making a living out of them, well I'm getting into doing just that, so I have a real good understanding about how hard it may be...
I will once again say that yes, the CR-X is a good gun, out of the box. I am glad that you enjoy yours so much. Is there room for improvement in the CR-X? you bet!
Regards,
DaveG
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Some questions for those of you who have the Tasco Red Dot on a P3.
1) Which end of the P3 do you mount it on? At the extreme forward position or as close to the rear of the gun as possible?
2) How long does the battery last?
3) Does it work o.k. in all light settings (bright, dusk, etc.)?
4) What's the difference in the settings 1-5?
5) What's the procedure for sighting it in?
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This scope is new but I did mount it on 1 rifle for a few weeks. I sold the rifle (pending funds) and now I need to sell the scope. I have box, lens cloth, and all papers. Paid $325 will sell for $265 shipped 3 day FedEx.
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I want to add an FT tuned springer to my small collection and shoot some FT matches in the piston class. Is Jim Macarri still tuning guns? I thought he had a web site with services/products available ( kind of a cluttered listing in plain text). I can't seem to find the site any longer.
If he is not around any longer, can anyone point me in the direction of a quality tuned HW77/97 or TX200 already tricked out fot FT use?
Thanks in advance..
FredC
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In Reply to: Re: A Serious Of Questions For The Experts. posted by RBest on August 10, 2000 at 00:14:32:
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In Reply to: Re: YES, the RWS 54 is a good gun! What about the 48? posted by Cody Dotter on August 10, 2000 at 08:27:18:
No gas rams for the 48/52/54. A GSI Spring kit instead is easy to install, smoothens the action, etc. Recoil will not be lowered either by a gas ram or an aftermarket spring. It's just the nature of the things. Moving mass(piston+spring in case of springers, just piston in case of gas rams), principle of action/reaction!
Regards
Roland
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In Reply to: You are not sendi him my FT stock are ya? hehehe LOL nt posted by Steve in CT on August 10, 2000 at 08:46:04:
Not yours! but one like it... You know, each one is a custom jobber...
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In Reply to: Re: Wayne you are a wise person... posted by DaveG on August 10, 2000 at 08:44:39:
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In Reply to: Wayne you are a wise person... posted by Steve in CT on August 10, 2000 at 08:41:37:
and his career will soon be taking on a new personality... Something tells me the Rapid will be spending some extra time in the cabinet...Hehehehe...
Regards,
DaveG
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In Reply to: Re: A Rapid tale......Read and get sick....... posted by Wayne from Ohio on August 10, 2000 at 08:28:19:
If you are going to have only 2 guns those are it hehehe
Safe shooting
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In Reply to: How did Bill Demarest do? (nt) posted by Tom L. on August 09, 2000 at 22:42:11:
in air pistol, Bill finshed 15th behind Olympic Teamamtes Daryl Szarenski who made the the finals in 5th and MikeDouglass who finshed 11th.
Olympic Champions DiDonna from 96 and KIRIAKOV from 92 finished 6 and 7 respectively
in Free Pistol, Bill and Daryl tied for 11th, KIRIAKOV was 5th and Di Donna was 7th
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In Reply to: Scuba tank posted by Jon F. on August 10, 2000 at 00:59:36:
Since you are not going to be diving in salt water with it there is no reason to worry about rust. Get a steel tank at least 3500 PSI and 120 cubic feet otherwise you 'll be running to the scuba shop every week to fill up. Click below. it is another good place.
I recently had a problem with my RX-1 barrel.I discovered that it was not straight but had warped to the right about 2-3 millimeters.With the help of my bench-vice I think I was able to straighten it. Has anyone else had the same problem? If yes, what did you do to correct it? Also do you have any ideas what could have caused this to happen.
Regards,Fabio.
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In Reply to: A Rapid tale......Read and get sick....... posted by Derrin on August 09, 2000 at 23:08:22:
I have a Rapid 12/220, and it is truly a very nice gun. Currently I own only two airguns, Rapid 12 and a Mac-1 Career. It's like having a Jaguar and a big Ford Pick-up parked in the garage. The best of two worlds, and all bases are covered to handle any airgun hunting situations.
Regards,
Wayne
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In Reply to: Driskill, regarding the HW45/P1..... posted by Fearon Steele on August 10, 2000 at 03:11:19:
Feron,
No, my articles about the P1/HW45 are not on-line. They are in "The Airgun Letter," which is a newsletter that we (the people who run this forum) publish every month. We have been publishing the newsletter every month since March of 1994, and the number of magazine-quality pages so far produced exceeds 1,000. That's a stack about four inches thick. Every year we put our 12 more issues (one every month). Thjose who have those issues have a large library of airgun information that is not available anywhere else.
For the P1 alone, we published five articles, including how to disassemble it (with graphics), how to create a mainspring compressor for it, how to tune it and how to fine-tune the trigger.
We also publish a 100-page magazine titled "Airgun Revue." It's not a review of new airguns, but a variety show (revue) of vintage, and collectable airguns. There are six Revues in print, though #3 has almost run out and will not be reprinted.
In the newsletter we have addressed about 75 percent of the topics that appear on this forum. There were many threads on scope mounting recently and we just ran a large tutorial article on how to mount a scope. Many of the people who answer questions on this forum are our subscribers, and we like to think they are better informed than their counterparts.
I would like to thank Mike Driskill who has been gently reminding people that the newsletter exists. I find it hard to believe that over 10,000 people who read this forum and use our site don't even know about the newsletter, but it's true.
In case you haven't heard yet, we DO have articles on-line. Go to the top of this page and click on "The Airgun Letter," which will take you to our main page. Once there, click on the "Online Articles," which takes you to the table of contents. There are two articles on-line at present, but there are several advertisers who are in the process of putting up an article of their own. These are sponsored articles for the most part, so please patronize the business that advertises them. In most cases, they will be the largest and best place to deal with, anyway.
This forum. and the site around it, is the largest (busiest) airgun web sitye on the Internet. We get over 1.3 Million hits each month, and readers download 45-55 Gigabytes of informatio. We are a mostly-text site (for speed), yet our download rate rivals the most popular sites on the web.
But the web site is only part of what we do. To pay the bills, we publish "The Airgun Letter."
Regards,
Tom Gaylord
The Airgun Letter
staff@airgunletter.net
http://www.airgunletter.net
http://www.airgunletter.com
In Reply to: Re: YES, the RWS 54 is a good gun! What about the 48? posted by Roland Martens on August 10, 2000 at 07:34:59:
Does anyone make gas rams for the M 48? What their
web site? Does the gas ram reduce recoil?
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In Reply to: Groundhog question.....? posted by Tony Z on August 09, 2000 at 18:32:24:
Tony,
It depends on how long the den has been there. If it's more than a year old there is a very high possibility of more wildlife(including O'possums, Raccoons, and even Skunks). Leave the trap set for a minimum of 3 days after your last catch before filling the hole(s). For groundhogs, you should have purchased a Conibear #160 or #220. Anything smaller or bigger is not the proper choice of trap. I am a professional wildlife nuisance trapper so this type of work is as simple as drinking water to me. Varmint Gitter
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In Reply to: A Rapid tale......Read and get sick....... posted by Derrin on August 09, 2000 at 23:08:22:
>>It shoots Preimers at 980 fps.
Derrin, make sure those premiers are well lubed. Above 900 fps they tend to lead the barrel fast.
I am so happy for you. I am so far loving my rapid 12 as well but I didn't have a chance to get very familiar with it yet. I bought it from Joe Young in England and he did his modifications on it. I didn't want a stocker after talkin to Peter Huppertz. I love the high number of shots and also Joe's bottle which allows me to charge it without unscrewing the bottle off the gun.
SS
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In Reply to: Scuba tank posted by Jon F. on August 10, 2000 at 00:59:36:
I think I would like a 100 cf 3500 psi steel tank. Do you know of anyone who makes these?
Thanks again!
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In Reply to: old models i wish i could find posted by Pat O'Meara on August 10, 2000 at 00:38:28:
The full auto you refer to was the Larc - no longer made. There is something similar made to run on compressed air.
Send a letter to:
Ernest Vigil
337A Shelton Turner Rd.
Lake Village, AR 71653
I believe I got the copy of their flyer from Pellethead.
HTH
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In Reply to: Re: RWS 54 is this a good gun ? posted by Marco on August 10, 2000 at 04:45:11:
The 54 is a superb gun! I own one and I would revise your list as follows:
Pro's
1. Totally recoilless
2. Hold INsensitive
3. Extremely accurate
Con's
1. Heavy
2. Trigger is not as good as a Rekord (but is a good trigger nonetheless and adjustable)
3. A good quality scope required (Trophy, Swift to name two). RWS mts. (the newer ones) are fine or what SS recommends. The mounts should be adjustable to account for droop. Nothing out of the ordinary here. ---- Mr.P
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In Reply to: Re: A Rapid tale......Read and get sick....... posted by RBest on August 10, 2000 at 00:34:56:
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In Reply to: Re: A Rapid tale......Read and get sick....... posted by Anthony Storey on August 10, 2000 at 05:00:36:
I normally shoot 5 shot groups. I have shot as many as 36 shots at 75 yds , but the groups will invariably have a couple of flyers or imperfect rounds. I have achieved a couple of 3/4" , 36 shot groups, BUT not consistent. Field target is a completely different game for accuracy. You have to figure in a lot of different variables that change the rules of simple shooting. Things such as wind gusts, judging distances, shadow play, pressure stress and bugs JUST to name a few. My groups are at a nice local shooting range that is flanked on both sides by 15' tall embankments. There is hardly Zero wind and no other distractions. Also I have had some of the worlds best training in marksmanship. I would gladly shoot your targets if you would like to send me some. E-mail me direct for more info. sugarbabies1@prodigy.net
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In Reply to: AK47 co2 rifle posted by GMackeddie on August 09, 2000 at 17:17:07:
What are your impressions of the gun ? How is the trigger ? Thanks.
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In Reply to: Driskill, regarding the HW45/P1..... posted by Fearon Steele on August 10, 2000 at 03:11:19:
Article is not online to my knowledge, though I am not the most computer-savvy guy around!
I would suggest you look through the index of back issues available from this site's main page, and just buy the 2 issues concerned (not at home at present or I'd tell you the numbers).
BTW, this gun is not one you can increase the power on significantly, no need to dismantle it until the spring goes which should be a long time off. Enjoy your pistol...
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In Reply to: Re: YES, the RWS 54 is a good gun ! posted by Rolo101 on August 10, 2000 at 06:46:10:
It is one fine gun to be sure! I have one and marvel at it's accuracy. I also have an RX-1 and a 48. The RX-1 is about the same in weight; the 48 is substantially lighter than the 54 (so is the R-1).---- Mr.P
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In Reply to: Mark and Tony posted by Gary on August 09, 2000 at 21:39:51:
I have had a P-3 for about 1.5 years now. I have shot many thousands of pellets through it with no problems.
The most accurate pellets are CPLs going at 380fps and Supermatch pellets.
Many other pellets shoot almost as good. The Meisterkugeln pistol(7.7gr)are worth trying too.
HTH,
Todd
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In Reply to: Re: YES, the RWS 54 is a good gun! What about the 48? posted by Cody Dotter on August 10, 2000 at 07:09:12:
The RWS48 is hold sensitive, just like any other high power springer. The recoil absortion system of the m54, unique to the 54 among mass production springers makes it hold insensitive, thus easy to shoot!
Roland
In Reply to: Re: YES, the RWS 54 is a good gun ! posted by Rolo101 on August 10, 2000 at 06:46:10:
Is the RWS 48 hold sensitive? Can it hit quarters
at 50 yards?
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In Reply to: Airgun Show in Swartz Creek, MI posted by Quack on August 09, 2000 at 17:28:59:
Tom B, Thom, Mike and Don R., hope to see you all there!
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In Reply to: A Rapid tale......Read and get sick....... posted by Derrin on August 09, 2000 at 23:08:22:
I also have the rapid in .22 and don't believe airguns get any better. To add to what Derrin said (which I all find true) I also wonder how much flatter the .20 shoots cos the .22 shoots as near to flat as theoben claim the .20 does.
Mine is zeroed at 30 yrds and at 50 yrds the pellet (premier) has only dropped 3/4"!!
Groups are amazing . At 30-40 yards I tried that game someone on here suggested about driving in a screw into wood. Easy..
At 40 yrds screw heads are a challenge (resting of course I'm not a great shot) but quite achievable..
I love it
alex
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In Reply to: YES, the RWS 54 is a good gun ! posted by Torsten on August 10, 2000 at 00:56:11:
It's an amazing gun. Not heavier than other springers in it's power class (R1, RX-1, RSW48).
After an easy to do yourself mod no heavy trigger anymore.
Visit Straightshooters "Our Take"for a review on the RWS54. Visit my page for some interesting easy tunes & related stuff.
In Reply to: gas spring for Beeman Kodiak 25 cal posted by george on August 10, 2000 at 02:45:48:
Wouldn`t that be nice. Try slightly decreased velocity but much smoother firing cycle...but no 1000 FPS
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In Reply to: The best airgun (rifle or pistol) of all time posted by s[i]lencer on August 09, 2000 at 15:15:24:
6.6 pounds
carbine length
highly reliable
rugged
adjustable power -- and lots of it
can be left cocked all day if needed
hunting accuracy
great fun
no spring jerk or twang
completely self-contained
lots of change back from $300
pride of ownership
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In Reply to: FOr CANUCK PLZ HELP!!!!!!!! What size is dovetail on p23? posted by s[i]lencer on August 10, 2000 at 02:00:20:
Too small for my liking.
In Reply to: A Rapid tale......Read and get sick....... posted by Derrin on August 09, 2000 at 23:08:22:
Derrin it sounds like you have the ultimate "in an air rifle" for you and maybe several others.Its great to know you are as happy with the Rapid as you are. I have seen post similar to yours talking about 1/2" groups at different distances and as you said consitently. Is this outside to outside? Is it for 12 shot groups? The mag holds 12 right? Do they go where the crosshairs are? I personally feel like some of the top FT shooters in the US would die for 1/2" groups at 75 yards.I have been around (and shot with) some of the best Air rifle benchrest shooters in the US, they cannot achieve that kind of performance. Would you be so kind as to accept some IFP targets from me and shoot them at the required 30 yards and let us know how you score? Regulation IFP is shot from a sitting position but I would like for you to shoot the target from any position that is best for you to score the highest.The inner circle is 1/2" the outer 1".IFP is officially for sub 20ftlb guns but I would really be interested in how you do on the target. You could always draw 1/2" circles on paper and try that to.If you could find the time please do this and let us know how it turns out. Above all keep enjoying your Rapid sounds like you have a winner! sincerely Anthony Storey
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