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Msg. 275902  Posted by Marco on August 16, 2000 at 06:04:30:


Hello,

I have ordered the airforce talon from pyramid Stone a few moths back and because of some troubles they could not charge my card but i did have the gun already ;-)
Oke i`m not like that so i contacted interpay a few times and mailed Pyramid stone also {did not get a answer}to solve this problem finaly yesterday after 3 months Joshua from Pyramid stone did get his money..
Everything oke so far the bill was +/- $609,-
Gun = $499,-
bipod = $69.95
SH = $39.12

But a month befor he did charge my card for $51.17 so i send him a mail asking where this was for and he said that`s for customs shipping and handling huh but didn`t i pay there already $39.12 for ?
Did anyone have the same problems with international ordering from pyramid Stone and did he charge also $51.17 for ????
Oh and i did pay the customs/tax for import to the Netherlands myself costs +/- $123,-
Must i report this to interpay/mastercard for abuse ?

Marco

Ps i don`t think this gun is worth that amount of money...


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Re: What's your site address again?


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Msg. 275901  Posted by BSJ on August 16, 2000 at 06:03:28:

In Reply to: Re: What's your site address again? posted by Swinson on August 15, 2000 at 23:13:58:

No problem dude.

I figured it would happen too. He never changes.

I've got some pics for the site too. I'll send 'em when I get them downloaded.
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typo


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Msg. 275900  Posted by M Boyle on August 16, 2000 at 06:02:24:

1 months = 15 months
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seems my new toy is delayed


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Msg. 275899  Posted by M Boyle on August 16, 2000 at 06:01:24:

i wont go into details. just that i found out my jw80 will be delayed..its be 1 months and i was told i was next in line and fate kicks me in the "you know" not much i can do but waite..maybe by sept ill have it..no clue
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Re: Agree in part... (ctxt)


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Msg. 275898  Posted by Sammy on August 16, 2000 at 05:24:13:

In Reply to: Agree in part... (ctxt) posted by Gary on August 15, 2000 at 15:19:40:

I could not have said it better.
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Re: More than parallax...


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Msg. 275897  Posted by peter huppertz on August 16, 2000 at 05:05:55:

In Reply to: Re: More than parallax... posted by Joe Whittaker on August 15, 2000 at 19:32:58:

You too? So do I... because of a ridiculously dominant left eye. When shooting with the Tasco, I usually deploy the trick of focusing as close as I can get, and then seeing where that is. From there on, I estimate my way back to the target. That usually helps me within half a yard.
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Russ, are you really surprised?


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Msg. 275896  Posted by peter huppertz on August 16, 2000 at 05:03:16:

In Reply to: Re: More than parallax... posted by RBest on August 15, 2000 at 20:02:24:

It's become some sort of a fact of life, really. You're a visitor at That Other Forum, so you should know, right?

Cheers, have one on me,
peter
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Compulsory But they are sooo ugly! post


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Msg. 275895  Posted by peter(23yds)huppertz on August 16, 2000 at 04:59:10:

In Reply to: Obligatory Career 707's Rule post! posted by Swinson on August 15, 2000 at 21:57:24:



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BANG SNAPS as Target practice


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Msg. 275893  Posted by mike on August 16, 2000 at 04:32:55:

I'm wondering if anyones ever used them bang-snap things you buy at the drug store.. Ya know those litttle wrapped up paper balls with the light explosives that make a "BANG" when you throw em against the floor.. Im wondering if these have been used successfully with shooting.. Will you hear the "BANG" when hit with a pellet or BB?
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I am so angry. another liberal organization dumbing down the public And they don't seem to care whether or not peple will die becouse of it. (very long)


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Msg. 275892  Posted by jr99 on August 16, 2000 at 04:18:05:


Today the american heart association came out and said they are not going to teach people how to take a pulse any longer before doing CPR. Becouse it's take to long and to hard to teach the public to learn this skill.
This will Kill!
If any of you have ever taken a CPR course, Why don't they let you practice on each other? Why? becouse if you did do cpr on a beating heart you'll put the heart into filibration of one sort or another. and the victim will die.
For the last 20 years the a.h.a has been reducing the time that a cpr course takes. Originally the course was developed as a 16 hour course and now they have cut the time to 90mins (30 mins of it on cpr.) A few years ago I saw this comming and desided to getas much information as I could about teaching a skill like cpr. I went to the University of Hawaii to the dept of education and talked to some to the professors there (all had PHDs) and asked them How long it would take the public to learn a skill like cpr. They all said a minimum of 12hrs if you had above intelligence.
CPR consist of three disciplines. The frist part is the academics. (knowing the signs of cardic-arrest, How the body is put together and the steps to follow when doing cpr.) The second is the machanical part.(The proper physical procedures [checking for conciseness, opening airway, checking for pulse, location and speed and number of and depth of compressions.]). Any one or more of these left out or done improperly or out of order. and you'll guarantee a family member, co-worker, friend or stranger will die. and it will be your fault. There is no law any place that will protect you if you screw up. The third part is the hardest. This part is dealing with stress of doing cpr, and believe me your going to be hit with a shit load of stress. 99.999% of you will never have to do cpr so it might not seem to be a big deal. But what are the victims feelings. I don't think they what to die by getting beat up. becouse that what will happen when cpr is done improperly.
CPR does'nt save lives it sustains lives.
I've heard the expressions from the management of AHA (If it saves one life is'nt it worth it, and something is better than nothing, besides chances are they were going to die any way).
Who am I to challenge the AHA. I'am your friend and I give a damm. I've seen the hurt of thousands of family and friends when they lose someone. I've done CPR thousands times. under ER conditions and I know what it take to sustain a life.
When I used to teach cpr, a question I would ask my students is it worth 16 hrs of your time to learn how to sustain a life. Then ask them to look at the people next to them go home and look at your families and ask them is it worth it.
About 15 years ago both the Red Cross and the AHA stopped doing something called the precordial thump (this is a solid thump to the center chest which will under 25% of the time will be enough to start the heart beating properly again.) But they don't teach this anylonger, What they will do is sell you a machine ($3000) which will do the samething. ( I say follow the money) and you'll find out why their dumming us down. according to AHAs own paperwork they want to sell 25 million of these machines.
Eveything I've wrote above is the truth. SO HELP ME GOD!
Mahalo and Aloha
John Humphrey

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Start chewin' baby but don't you need the arm to shoot with???


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Msg. 275891  Posted by icon on August 16, 2000 at 04:08:26:

In Reply to: Re: Obligatory Career 707's Rule post! posted by Bing on August 16, 2000 at 01:16:21:

You think it be ugly. Ever seen an ugly girl with
a killer body? Tough decision but if you try her you might fall in love.
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You forgot fast food restaurants.....


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Msg. 275890  Posted by Simon Slick on August 16, 2000 at 02:45:48:

In Reply to: Re: Lets sue the car companys, tool mfg, bicycle mfg's, and etc. posted by Ted on August 16, 2000 at 02:10:20:

for making us too fat....SSlick
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Re: Mounts???


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Msg. 275889  Posted by James Kitching on August 16, 2000 at 02:37:57:

In Reply to: Mounts??? posted by Simon Slick on August 15, 2000 at 23:39:30:

I used sthe smaller one piece BKL on mine worked great, no movement, very sturdy. Had to remove the rear cap to get the mount on, think I had to reliev the plastic cap a bit too. well worth it.
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Re: F/T shooters ...(Heh-Heh-Heh!)... Don't be fooled!


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Msg. 275888  Posted by Uncle Gary on August 16, 2000 at 02:35:18:

In Reply to: F/T shooters ... posted by bcd on August 15, 2000 at 18:11:07:

We're all crazy as loons! Hell, look at me, I've only been to one sanctioned match and I'm already as crazy as the rest of 'em! (Of course, some might justifiably argue that I had a big head start in craziness, to them I plead, No Contest!)
Cheers my friends!
Unc

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OK Simon, but sometime ask me about rollerhockey balls.


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Msg. 275887  Posted by Brian Wheater on August 16, 2000 at 02:32:36:

In Reply to: Brian..... posted by Simon Slick on August 16, 2000 at 02:05:15:

NT
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Re: More than parallax...


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Msg. 275886  Posted by Uncle Gary on August 16, 2000 at 02:31:02:

In Reply to: Re: More than parallax... posted by peter huppertz on August 15, 2000 at 19:18:01:

I think you're absolutely right here Peter, sometimes we depend too much on our equipment to do what our eyes and brain can easily do at short distances! Cheers!
Unc

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SWEET Air PISTOL-TRY GUN GARAGE!


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Msg. 275885  Posted by Brian Wheater on August 16, 2000 at 02:29:35:

In Reply to: whats a SWEET Air PISTOL?? posted by Steve... on August 15, 2000 at 01:33:01:

Gun Garage seems to have the best prices on Benjamin/Sheridan products. They're at www.gungarage.com. For SERIOUS vermin control, you're best off with a rifle. Springers are also much quieter. Pneumos and CO2's can be loud and attract unwanted attention, but pistols are fun. If you want accuracy in a good entry level 10m pistol I'd recommend the Daisy 777(I think that's the right #). It would be nice if you fancy trying 10m competition at your state games. It lacks power though.Otherwise go with the Ben/Sher HB17 or HB22.
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Re: Unbridled Curiosity ...


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Msg. 275884  Posted by Uncle Gary on August 16, 2000 at 02:24:54:

In Reply to: Re: Unbridled Curiosity ... posted by peter huppertz on August 15, 2000 at 18:49:05:

Don't know about anyone else, but I usually can estimate distance under 20 yards by eye quite accurately without using the scope. And if you're shooting 10-meter, you already know what the range is, so who cares..? Just my thoughts!
Unc

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Hey, anybody know what a " Heticic " is? Me neither, and I wrote it! [GRIN!]


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Msg. 275883  Posted by Uncle Gary on August 16, 2000 at 02:16:18:

In Reply to: Re: The Heretic Speaks........ and now a word from Hetetic #2! posted by Uncle Gary on August 16, 2000 at 01:07:13:

Well, spelling never was one of my strong points............... ;-)
Unc

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Re: Lets sue the car companys, tool mfg, bicycle mfg's, and etc.


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Msg. 275882  Posted by Ted on August 16, 2000 at 02:10:20:

In Reply to: Gun suit thrown out...... posted by Simon Slick on August 15, 2000 at 22:29:07:

This is becoming ridiculus. They already got the cigarette mfg. Lets sue every company for misuse and accidents with their products. It will only raise our end costs. There are people who sniff paint or spray graphity, let sue them for not making a spray can that can't tell between your property and someone else's.
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Brian.....


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Msg. 275881  Posted by Simon Slick on August 16, 2000 at 02:05:15:

In Reply to: PAN PIZZA VS. BENJAMIN/SHERIDAN E22 posted by brian wheater on August 16, 2000 at 01:49:13:

Go to bed. Only old geezers like with too much time on their hands stay up this late. SSlick
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Any good Airgun stores in Alanta, GA?


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Msg. 275880  Posted by Mike Fujioka on August 16, 2000 at 02:03:38:

I'll be passing through Alanta in Sept. for a few days and want to check out the local airgun market.

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PAN PIZZA VS. BENJAMIN/SHERIDAN E22


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Msg. 275878  Posted by brian wheater on August 16, 2000 at 01:49:13:

We engaged in a little after work scheutzenfest and low and behold, a pan pizza WILL NOT stop a Superdome launched from an E22 at 10m! Honestly, I thought I was on the trail of a new target material. The stack of plastic dough trays used as a secondary backstop was unharmed though. Guess we'll just have to save the day's cardboard boxes next time.;-)
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BTW, whats a good Online site to buy???


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Msg. 275877  Posted by steve on August 16, 2000 at 01:18:43:

In Reply to: whats a SWEET Air PISTOL?? posted by Steve... on August 15, 2000 at 01:33:01:

thanks for everyones help...
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Re: Obligatory Career 707's Rule post!


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Msg. 275876  Posted by Bing on August 16, 2000 at 01:16:21:

In Reply to: Re: Obligatory Career 707's Rule post! posted by RBest on August 15, 2000 at 22:02:22:

Careers are also the ugliest peice out there kind of reminds me of COYOTE UGLY. I' rather chew my arm off than own one
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Feoron, please answer..


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Msg. 275875  Posted by steve on August 16, 2000 at 01:13:10:

In Reply to: Re: whats a SWEET Air PISTOL?? posted by Fearon Steele on August 15, 2000 at 02:33:08:

Hi, thanks for your answers, OK
here's what i'm looking for Accuracy+POWER, price no prob.
bingo, i am using it for hunting mice(rodents)
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Re: PCP Beginning


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Msg. 275874  Posted by Bing on August 16, 2000 at 01:09:36:

In Reply to: Re: PCP Beginning posted by Swinson on August 15, 2000 at 23:15:03:

Cancel the order for the Career and save your money for a real air rifle. Like a Falcon or daystate. In the lon run ou will be alot happier and have alot less junk guns in your closet.
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Re: Anyone know of any airgun distributors in Canada other than guns n things and SIR? (mail order or shipping)


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Msg. 275873  Posted by Whitewolf on August 16, 2000 at 01:07:54:

In Reply to: Anyone know of any airgun distributors in Canada other than guns n things and SIR? (mail order or shipping) posted by s[i]lencer on August 16, 2000 at 00:40:44:

Lebaron in Montreal site www.lebaron.com
GVR Enterprises in Edmonton site www.airgunscanada.com
Russel Sports in Calgary site www.russelsports.com

And a few others go through the resources pages on airgun sites and you'll find a few more.

Later Whitewolf
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Re: The Heretic Speaks........ and now a word from Hetetic #2!


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Msg. 275872  Posted by Uncle Gary on August 16, 2000 at 01:07:13:

In Reply to: The Heretic Speaks posted by Happy Gardener on August 15, 2000 at 23:32:27:

Nothing too crazy here Hap, I'm a bit of a rimfire nut myself. Say, ever try Federal Gold Medal Match ammo? Deadly accurate, quiet too! For the hot stuff try Triton Quik-shok ammo - an honest 1,500 FPS, accurate, and the bullet breaks into 3 segments on impact, hard to beat for rimfire hunting! Mr. P. put me onto them, and I thank him for it - good stuff! Cheers!
Unc

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Re: What Next?


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Msg. 275871  Posted by Bing on August 16, 2000 at 01:01:41:

In Reply to: What Next? posted by BK on August 15, 2000 at 22:55:36:

Or you could put the patriot in the closet for now and get the beeman R-9 combo and do the starling's out to 60 yards
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For the $$$$$'s Career 707-.22 has it all. Power, accuracy, repeater, power graduations


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Msg. 275870  Posted by icon on August 16, 2000 at 01:01:40:

In Reply to: Re: Obligatory Career 707's ARE NO GOOD POST posted by Swanson on August 16, 2000 at 00:03:05:

All you need is a FINE BROAD to teach how to use it.
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Just want everyone to know that I DIDN'T make the above post!


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Msg. 275869  Posted by Uncle Gary on August 16, 2000 at 00:59:59:

In Reply to: Re: My name is Swensen and I'm a homo posted by Uncle Gary on August 15, 2000 at 23:36:30:

I'm on AOL and have never been on psi.net in my life.....

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Re: Thanks, guys ...


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Msg. 275868  Posted by Steve B. on August 16, 2000 at 00:50:04:

In Reply to: Thanks, guys ... posted by Mark Budai on August 15, 2000 at 23:26:25:

Mark: I used a seventeen cal. cleaning rod to do the bore (from the breech end). The gun I got was full of thin oil. I cleaned it out with Starting fluid and Brake cleaner (gets stuff sqeaky clean) and relubed the spring (Belray chain lube)and piston (Machinist's High Pressure Center Lube). Dieseling stopped, twang stopped; I'm gonna tear it down in a month or so to give it a look for wear and maybe relube.

If you don't have a rod and the patch worm thing isn't working, I'd use the dowel, it's a one time deal and it won't hurt anything. Now go play and don't do it again ;).

HTH - Steve B.
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Re: Looking for advice on co2 powered pistol


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Msg. 275867  Posted by Bing on August 16, 2000 at 00:49:03:

In Reply to: Looking for advice on co2 powered pistol posted by John Habanero on August 16, 2000 at 00:45:53:

Excellent choices, with the crossman at the bottom of the list
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Looking for advice on co2 powered pistol


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Msg. 275866  Posted by John Habanero on August 16, 2000 at 00:45:53:

I am new to co2 powered pistols and I hope someone could help. I am looking to purchase one and am looking for advice.
Well built,
easy to clean,
accurate,
fire multiple shots fast,
not revolver style,
not ruger style, sp?
pellet, .
where to buy

Ones I am looking at.........
Walther CP88
Crossman CB40
Beretta 92FS

John Habanero

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Anyone know of any airgun distributors in Canada other than guns n things and SIR? (mail order or shipping)


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Msg. 275864  Posted by s[i]lencer on August 16, 2000 at 00:40:44:

Anyone know of any airgun distributors in Canada other than guns n things and SIR? (mail order or shipping)
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Re: What Next?


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Msg. 275863  Posted by Sloop on August 16, 2000 at 00:20:38:

In Reply to: What Next? posted by BK on August 15, 2000 at 22:55:36:

BK:
Thats a tough choice, but I guess the girl has to go :~).

Seriously, there are lots of more forgiving airguns that will do what you want. Thats the good thing about experience, you can usually make a lot better choice the second time around.

Sloop
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No Bass Boat or Snowmobile for You!


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Msg. 275862  Posted by Happy Gardener on August 16, 2000 at 00:20:32:

In Reply to: Obligatory Career 707's Rule post! posted by Swinson on August 15, 2000 at 21:57:24:

Lets say you spend $1000 for a Career and accessories. Now what happens when Nimrod gets gigged by his spouse and ends up giving away his bass boat (with twin Mercs) during divorce proceedings? Here you are with a depleted account and your scrote flapping in the breeze whilst another guy scores the boat for peanuts. If you can contain your addictions for just the right moment someone else will take the pipe for you.
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Re: AirPistol Silho Distances


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Msg. 275861  Posted by dscott on August 16, 2000 at 00:17:39:

In Reply to: AirPistol Silho Distances posted by Mac1 on August 15, 2000 at 21:41:31:

I'm going with 10, 12.5, 15, and 18 yds. There are a lot of other distances being reported, so I hope this is the NRA "approved" distance. Thanks for the input.
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Re: PCP Beginning


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Msg. 275860  Posted by Sloop on August 16, 2000 at 00:13:53:

In Reply to: PCP Beginning posted by chasm on August 15, 2000 at 22:35:49:

Chasm:
Went thru the same thing a little over a year ago. Started with a BSA S-10 from Allen Zasadny, and it has been truly an exceptional gun. It's no heavier (common complaint) than a good spring gun like the PE. Careers are great guns (I've got one), but unless you are willing to put in the time to learn it, you'll end up putting a regulator in like most people do. If you want something you can shoot "out of the box" with no learning curve, and reasonably priced, I don't see how you can beat the S-10.

RBest and Steve in CT both have BSA Spitfires, and they seem to love them. Maybe a New England thing. Same fill gear as the S-10, so you can always move up later for a more powerful rig.

Once you get all the filling gear, its real easy to buy another PCP, and another, etc..

BTW, Mac-1 worked over my Career and Stealth, and got them shooting like they're supposed to. And if something didn't work quite right the first time or needed tweaking, he took it back and made it right. Nice to have someone back up thier work like that.

Sloop

PS: I mainly shoot my PCP guns when hunting, but always take along a springer just in case. Don't sell off your springers just yet, but if you do, let me know first.
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Re: Obligatory Career 707's ARE NO GOOD POST


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Msg. 275859  Posted by Happy Gardener on August 16, 2000 at 00:10:01:

In Reply to: Re: Obligatory Career 707's ARE NO GOOD POST posted by Hawley on August 15, 2000 at 23:23:53:

They do not make a lot of sense. A 12-14 ft/lb airgun will harvest lots of small game. Low cost, low noise, low maintence. If you need more power a .22 rimfire with target ammo is still quiet and lots fewer pesos.
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Msg. 275858  Posted by Swanson on August 16, 2000 at 00:03:05:

In Reply to: Re: Obligatory Career 707's ARE NO GOOD POST posted by Hawley on August 15, 2000 at 23:23:53:

The Career is a damn good airgun! It does it all and is so freakin accurate! And it looks cool. And best of all(I think), it gets so many shots.
Not to mention value.

sorry about the name Swinson, with swenson out there I just had to.
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Re: Bombing Alert


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Msg. 275857  Posted by RBest on August 15, 2000 at 23:59:48:

In Reply to: Re: Bombing Alert posted by TK on August 15, 2000 at 23:46:50:

If they are running an anonymizer- who knows?
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Re: My name is Swensen and I'm a homo


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Msg. 275856  Posted by RBest on August 15, 2000 at 23:53:05:

In Reply to: Re: My name is Swensen and I'm a homo posted by RC on August 15, 2000 at 23:38:30:

When did you bomb the site? I'm not seeing anything. Maybe Craig grabbed the broom already. Bad boy RC !
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Msg. 275855  Posted by MAD DAWG on August 15, 2000 at 23:50:26:

The first match in this series (Sun. Aug 20) will be shot from essentially a single firing line in an open field. This is being done to give everybody a chance to get acquainted, observe the techniques and positions of other shooters, and generally familiarize themselves with the Field Target program. Note-on Saturday, Aug 19, an air gun Benchrest match is being shot on this range. Camping is available on the Club grounds.
The Range is reached from I-5 by taking the Lakewood/McChord AFB (exit 125) exit onto Bridgeport Avenue. Go west on Bridgeport 4.1 miles to Chambers Creek Road. Left on Chambers Creek Road approximately 1 mile - Range is on your right. Tacoma Rifle & Revolver Club is a private club with a 'keypad' operated gate. However on Match Days (this Sat & Sun) the range may be accessed by pressing the large black button on the control panel next to the keypad.
For more information, feel free to call
Jim Benson Airgun Options 253-952-3211 days.

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Msg. 275854  Posted by TK on August 15, 2000 at 23:46:50:

In Reply to: Re: Bombing Alert posted by KeithD on August 15, 2000 at 23:35:12:

ip111.charleston2.sc.pub-ip.psi.net <---- Look for this IP and you will know it's this idiot playing tricks.
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Msg. 275853  Posted by john on August 15, 2000 at 23:44:49:

In Reply to: Re: .22 Remington posted by RBest on August 15, 2000 at 23:09:41:

In my opinion -and as you can see many others'- yes it is true. They have made much better guns... when they used to use quality craftsmanship to make them that is. Their ads are all talk as far as I am concerned.
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Msg. 275852  Posted by J. Thomas on August 15, 2000 at 23:44:48:

In Reply to: foot pounds posted by Keith on August 15, 2000 at 23:33:45:

go to airguns.net and click on calculators
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Msg. 275851  Posted by aaron on August 15, 2000 at 23:43:19:

In Reply to: Re: Not as good. posted by Bill on August 15, 2000 at 07:42:53:

And some don't require gunsmithing.
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Msg. 275850  Posted by HG on August 15, 2000 at 23:43:14:

In Reply to: My name is Swensen and I'm a homo posted by Swensen on August 15, 2000 at 23:32:57:

They will give you senior delagate status.
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Msg. 275849  Posted by RBest on August 15, 2000 at 23:42:25:

In Reply to: Re: My name is Swensen and I'm a homo posted by RC on August 15, 2000 at 23:38:30:

Oops! I didn't think it was really you. Thought it was someone using your initials.(Crazier things have happened).RB
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Msg. 275848  Posted by TK on August 15, 2000 at 23:42:00:

In Reply to: Fuck you again! posted by Mongo on August 15, 2000 at 23:41:11:

Hahaha. The F word. The recourse of an idiot.
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Msg. 275847  Posted by Mongo on August 15, 2000 at 23:41:11:

In Reply to: Hmmm.... Same IP's posted by TK on August 15, 2000 at 23:40:37:

So there...
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Msg. 275846  Posted by TK on August 15, 2000 at 23:40:37:

In Reply to: Re: Well, well, well..... posted by PB on August 15, 2000 at 23:37:31:

You can bet that this thread will be gone tomorrow.

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Msg. 275845  Posted by Swesen on August 15, 2000 at 23:40:34:

Night all
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the velocity should be in FPS with that formula. nt


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Msg. 275843  Posted by RBest on August 15, 2000 at 23:40:13:

In Reply to: Re: foot pounds posted by RBest on August 15, 2000 at 23:39:20:

nt
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Msg. 275842  Posted by Simon Slick on August 15, 2000 at 23:39:30:

In Reply to: Re: Can i please get some expert opinion on which type of air rifle scope to purchase posted by James Kitching on August 15, 2000 at 23:29:27:

What kind of mounts would you use on the BSA 4x32AO with a XS-B18??? SS
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Msg. 275841  Posted by RBest on August 15, 2000 at 23:39:20:

In Reply to: foot pounds posted by Keith on August 15, 2000 at 23:33:45:

The formula is : velocity times velocity, times the weight in grains, then divide by 450420. RB
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Msg. 275840  Posted by RC on August 15, 2000 at 23:39:06:

In Reply to: Velocity Squared Minus Durational Lift posted by Luddnick Von Brink on August 15, 2000 at 22:46:54:

Come on JM they know it's you
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Msg. 275839  Posted by HG on August 15, 2000 at 23:38:41:

In Reply to: Re: .22 Remington Ammo posted by BCall on August 15, 2000 at 23:28:29:

Glad to hear the rimfire guns are good. I stand corrected. When something I encounter is substandard quality I just assume everything they make is a POS.
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Msg. 275838  Posted by RC on August 15, 2000 at 23:38:30:

In Reply to: Re: My name is Swensen and I'm a homo posted by RBest on August 15, 2000 at 23:37:06:

I respect you russ so just stay out of it. Sorry for bombing your site. I'm pissed at Swensen.

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Msg. 275837  Posted by aaron gassman on August 15, 2000 at 23:37:52:

In Reply to: Air Pistol Silhouette Distances... Which are correct? posted by dscott on August 15, 2000 at 19:25:35:

I was always under the impression that we stick to the letter of the NRA law in Texas silhouette. We shoot 10, 12.5, 17.5 and 20 YARDS.
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Msg. 275836  Posted by PB on August 15, 2000 at 23:37:31:

In Reply to: Well, well, well..... posted by TK on August 15, 2000 at 23:36:01:

Go peddle your smack someplace else Swensen lover
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Msg. 275835  Posted by RBest on August 15, 2000 at 23:37:06:

In Reply to: Re: My name is Swensen and I'm a homo posted by RC on August 15, 2000 at 23:33:55:

Damn- 2 seconds apart ! Ain't Windows™ great!
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Msg. 275834  Posted by Uncle Gary on August 15, 2000 at 23:36:30:

In Reply to: My name is Swensen and I'm a homo posted by Swensen on August 15, 2000 at 23:32:57:

This is what you get for hanging out with those folks. [GRIN]

Cheers,
UG
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Msg. 275833  Posted by Simon Slick on August 15, 2000 at 23:36:09:

In Reply to: Re: .22 Remington posted by RBest on August 15, 2000 at 23:27:30:

Ruger has a 10-22 Magnum out also, but the suggested retail price is $430.00 (Ouch). SSlick
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Msg. 275832  Posted by TK on August 15, 2000 at 23:36:01:

In Reply to: Re: My name is Swensen and I'm a homo posted by RC on August 15, 2000 at 23:33:55:

I think a little IP banning is in order here, eh?
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Msg. 275831  Posted by KeithD on August 15, 2000 at 23:35:12:

In Reply to: Bombing Alert posted by Swinson on August 15, 2000 at 21:51:03:

I have no idea who RC is so FUCK YOU
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Msg. 275830  Posted by RC on August 15, 2000 at 23:33:55:

In Reply to: My name is Swensen and I'm a homo posted by Swensen on August 15, 2000 at 23:32:57:

Swensen just because I turned you down doesn't mean you should take it out on Peter.

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Msg. 275829  Posted by Keith on August 15, 2000 at 23:33:45:

How can foot pounds be determined when the velocity and wieght of pellet are know? Is there a webpage or program to help?

Thanks

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Msg. 275828  Posted by Swensen on August 15, 2000 at 23:32:57:

Humpfaces wife does me up the ass and I think that's really great.
I'm practicing to be a Gaylord Narc.

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Msg. 275827  Posted by Happy Gardener on August 15, 2000 at 23:32:27:

The pcp craze is on full tilt. I have a hard time with spending 700-800 or more for a pcp when there are a lot of nice used .22 rimfire guns languishing in the racks. If you use the CCI standard velocity long rifle cartriges you will get 90 ft/lbs of energy with great accuracy and low noise. Buy an orphan for lower cost and superior performance. One of my buddies uses his in a trailer park and they are still oblivious to his little hobby.
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Msg. 275826  Posted by James Kitching on August 15, 2000 at 23:29:27:

In Reply to: Can i please get some expert opinion on which type of air rifle scope to purchase posted by Greg S on August 15, 2000 at 23:17:26:

Cant beat the BSA 4x32 OA or NOA for airguns. Low cost, tough, good optics. Got to pay a lot mre to do better. Fixed powers are stronger than variables, lots more parts in variables to shake loose.

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Msg. 275825  Posted by aaRON gassman on August 15, 2000 at 23:29:04:

In Reply to: PCP Beginning posted by chasm on August 15, 2000 at 22:35:49:

and without my prodding! See what happens when you're exposed to those West-coast crazies? Let me know when you start selling off everything else! If you get a Career, DEFINATELY just put yourself in Tim's hands. Apparently his mods allow full-range of power adjustments, rather than compromises. Let him do trigger work if he recommends it, too. The only caliber for you is .22, Tim will agree. Welcome to pre-charge heaven... also known as money-pit hell! Later, Ron P.S.- I din't have anything to do with it, Jane!
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Msg. 275824  Posted by jr99 on August 15, 2000 at 23:28:33:

In Reply to: M54 .177 or .22 cal? posted by Scott on August 15, 2000 at 21:03:25:


The 22cal by all means
If you get it out of cabrelas catolog for about $500. Have a Maccari spring put in. and get a Vortek Tamer from Airgun Express and have a trigger job done a number of good people can do the work. Total cost if you send it to Steve at Pomona air will be about $750.
My 54 (with these upgrades) in 22cal does quarters at 75yds from a rest. I hope this helps
Aloha John
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Msg. 275823  Posted by BCall on August 15, 2000 at 23:28:29:

In Reply to: Re: .22 Remington Ammo posted by Happy Gardener on August 15, 2000 at 23:19:07:

Happy,
I beg to differ, while their ammo is terrible in centerfire and rimfire, all of their .22 rifles are not built to the same quality. The 541 and the 40X are both remarkable guns. My father has one of each and I have seen very few factory guns that can compete with them. The 40X is really a target rifle, but the 541 will shoot right with it. By that I mean 3/4 inch groups or less at 100 meters. My father regularly shoots each in NRAS smallbore silhouette and scores over 30 out of 40 more times than I care to remember. At the Louisiana state shoot he used these to take 3rd place overall. They can produce very accurate rimfires. Bill
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Msg. 275822  Posted by RBest on August 15, 2000 at 23:27:30:

In Reply to: Re: .22 Remington posted by BCall on August 15, 2000 at 23:20:18:

Thanks guys. I've been looking at 10-22's myself, seeing as how I lacked a ,22 autoloader. RB
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Msg. 275821  Posted by Mark Budai on August 15, 2000 at 23:26:25:

In Reply to: Oh No! My new IZH-61 ... posted by Mark Budai on August 15, 2000 at 16:47:50:

I got the pellets out of the barrel with the wooden dowel and can now see all the way through the barrel! So now it's on to cleaning...

How do I run a Patch Worm through this gun? I removed the bolt, but couldn't get the PW to run through the breech. I did manage to push a couple of patches through with the 1/8" dowel, but there must be an easier way. Am I missing something?

Do I need to tear the gun down and clean, or is cleaning out the barrel good enough. When I was cocking the spring, everything seemed smooth - I did not notice any scratchiness or grittiness in either the cocking action or the trigger.

Thanks again for your help and encouragement. I can't wait to get the gun out in the daylight and see how it shoots!

Mark
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Msg. 275820  Posted by Hawley on August 15, 2000 at 23:23:53:

In Reply to: Obligatory Career 707's Rule post! posted by Swinson on August 15, 2000 at 21:57:24:

You could not pay me to own one of those guns. They are totally worthless. I will not own a moderator and without one there is absolutely no redeeming factor about a 707! It is so loud that any fool would rather shoot a real gun. OPPS that is not PC in the airgun world. Come on guys, let's get real. If you want the noise of a Career, buy a rimfire or a centerfire. If you want to "dial it down" get a decent airgun! Sorry but i can't abide Careers and since so many seem to like them, I feel we need at one dissenting voice.
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Msg. 275819  Posted by RBest on August 15, 2000 at 23:22:24:

In Reply to: Re: .22 Remington Ammo posted by Happy Gardener on August 15, 2000 at 23:19:07:

Yup ! The bosses '96 Yukon is for sale too! heh heh. Same thing with Jeeps. They become Jeeps From Hell. RB
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Msg. 275818  Posted by J. Thomas on August 15, 2000 at 23:21:18:

In Reply to: Re: .22 Remington posted by RBest on August 15, 2000 at 23:09:41:

The add in my just received American Rifleman states the 597 is the most accurate .22 in existence. Seems a little hard to swallow, especially when you look at the sample target pictured in the add.

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Msg. 275817  Posted by BCall on August 15, 2000 at 23:20:18:

In Reply to: Re: .22 Remington posted by RBest on August 15, 2000 at 23:09:41:

The .22 long rifle version is really fairly accurate. I haven't tried the magnum version. A few guys were actually building speed guns with these, but in sheer versatility and after market upgades, I don't think it will ever compete wtih the 10-22. It is an interesting gun. I have shot two of them, and it is surely the most accurate semi-auto they have ever built, but it will never be the most accurate .22 they have ever built. I believe the 40X carries that distinction. Of course, all semi-auto .22's are fun to me. See ya, Bill
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Msg. 275816  Posted by RBest on August 15, 2000 at 23:19:34:

In Reply to: PCP Beginning posted by chasm on August 15, 2000 at 22:35:49:

Charles: you'll get a charge of it! LOL. Just DIVE right in.(smirk). RB
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Msg. 275815  Posted by Swinson on August 15, 2000 at 23:19:31:

In Reply to: .22 Remington posted by matt sudol on August 15, 2000 at 21:56:26:

Good way to mess up the gun and hurt yourself...get rid of it and get a .22LR or even a 22 MAG from Ruger.

Regards,
Craig
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Msg. 275814  Posted by Happy Gardener on August 15, 2000 at 23:19:07:

In Reply to: Re: .22 Remington posted by RBest on August 15, 2000 at 23:09:41:

Remington makes the worst .22 rimfire ammo I ever sampled. They may just make rimfire guns up to the same low standard. Remington ads are slick and imply quality but so do General Motors. Ever see what happens to a Chevy Silverado or Yukon when they hit 75,000 miles?
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Msg. 275813  Posted by Greg S on August 15, 2000 at 23:17:26:

I live in canada and there is no air gunners in my area that i know of to converse with.Anyways im looking for a scope for my airrifle its just a daisy/990 pneumatic and co2 630/pellet and i might later on get a highpower springer.Should I get a scope that has fixed magnification 4x or something that is adjustable 3x9.My budjet keeps me around the 80 dollar range.I was looking at crosman or bunshell. Thanks
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Msg. 275812  Posted by RBest on August 15, 2000 at 23:16:23:

In Reply to: Velocity Squared Minus Durational Lift posted by Luddnick Von Brink on August 15, 2000 at 22:46:54:

No wonder my cake didn't rise ! RB:>)
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Msg. 275811  Posted by Sam on August 15, 2000 at 23:15:34:

In Reply to: .22 Remington posted by matt sudol on August 15, 2000 at 21:56:26:

You cannot shoot .22LR in a .22 mag. The cases are a different diameter and the LR case will split and you will get gas blow by past the bolt.

Sam
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Msg. 275810  Posted by Swinson on August 15, 2000 at 23:15:03:

In Reply to: Re: PCP Beginning posted by Jm on August 15, 2000 at 23:11:37:

Don't make me come after you in your own house. You think I'm joking around RC, just you wait.


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Msg. 275809  Posted by RBest on August 15, 2000 at 23:14:09:

In Reply to: What Next? posted by BK on August 15, 2000 at 22:55:36:

BK: referrals are a good way of making a good choice. Your problem is that you picked the wrong gun to learn on. Try a new 392 Steroid, ordered and built up from Mac-1 Airguns. He has 392's in stock ( I think) and could do the work right in his shop then mail you a new, hot rod airgun. All you do is pump and feed it. RB
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Msg. 275808  Posted by Swinson on August 15, 2000 at 23:13:58:

In Reply to: What's your site address again? posted by BSJ on August 15, 2000 at 22:07:57:

I din't mind when he was bombing my site (the one below) but it really makes me argry when he does stuff to the BSA site. I mean that's really Russ's site and there is no reason to go after Russ. He did it last year and he's doing it again this year. It REALLY makes me angry.
Then I find out HE put up the Uncle Gary site (sorry UG) and caused all thos problems.
(I truely still do not know how he got the e-mail) I only showed it to 2 people (very trustworthy people) AFTER the site was put up.
Now I feel bad I realize that guys that I thought were my friends were not. Lately I've been getting mail bombed by UG (RC) and Padre Gun (RC). What a freaking jerk.
(sorry I had to vent)
Regards,
Craig

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Msg. 275807  Posted by Jm on August 15, 2000 at 23:11:37:

In Reply to: Re: PCP Beginning posted by Swinson on August 15, 2000 at 23:08:17:

How would you know?
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Msg. 275806  Posted by RBest on August 15, 2000 at 23:09:41:

In Reply to: Re: .22 Remington posted by john on August 15, 2000 at 22:47:28:

John: is that true? I was just reading some Remington propaganda, saying it was the most accurate .22 they've ever made-- and it sure looks nice. Russ
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Msg. 275805  Posted by Swinson on August 15, 2000 at 23:08:17:

In Reply to: PCP Beginning posted by chasm on August 15, 2000 at 22:35:49:

There is only one way and it's PCP. Springs, Co2...booooring!

Regards,
Craig
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Msg. 275804  Posted by BK on August 15, 2000 at 22:55:36:

Where do I go from here? My first and currently only Adult airrifle is the Webley Patriot .177 with Bushnell Trophy 4-12*40 on Dampa mount. I love the gun, the power, the whole thing, but I just can't get consistent grouping and my girl just won't accept the time it will take to get good with this thing. I am thinking of another gun which will provide similar power levels, more forgiving towards the shooter, less damaging to scopes, cosistent accuracy, powerful enough to take squirrels and starlings out 30yd guaranteed and 40yd just-in-case. I can't afford the whole PCP setup and the whole send-away-for-a-tune thing is not really what I want either, I don't trust the shippers and how does one make the "best choice" on the tune/tuners? Sorry for rambling. I am just frustrated and there is just a shitload of options and opinions to think about and not enough time or money to evaluate them. Is it just me?
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Msg. 275803  Posted by AC on August 15, 2000 at 22:52:56:

In Reply to: Best gun for 500 dollars posted by matt sudol on August 14, 2000 at 17:49:29:

If you don't mind the weight (9 lbs +), an Air Arms TX-200 would be hard to beat. Can get them for under $500 at Airguns of Arizona or Pomona Airguns.
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Msg. 275802  Posted by JM on August 15, 2000 at 22:48:54:

In Reply to: Bombing Alert posted by Swinson on August 15, 2000 at 21:51:03:

I am shocked to say the least!
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Msg. 275801  Posted by john on August 15, 2000 at 22:47:28:

In Reply to: .22 Remington posted by matt sudol on August 15, 2000 at 21:56:26:

Take your 597 and sell it for a better .22. They are Remington's attempt to make a cheaper, more Ruger-like gun. The 597 is not a high quality firearm and if you do insist on using it, I wouldn't shoot anything but the mags in it.
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Msg. 275800  Posted by Luddnick Von Brink on August 15, 2000 at 22:46:54:

# X # x mass + 52.3456% retarded coil diameter will be > than total cir. X outer thermal layers regarding obsolete vernacular without horizontal distortion gives you the culinary root of the intended sliding frictional overlay at minus 23 C at 5400 ft BSL in this instance. HTH LVB
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Msg. 275799  Posted by Luddnick Von Brink on August 15, 2000 at 22:46:27:

# X # x mass + 52.3456% retarded coil diameter will be > than total cir. X outer thermal layers regarding obsolete vernacular without horizontal distortion gives you the culinary root of the intended sliding frictional overlay at minus 23 C at 5400 ft BSL in this instance. HTH LVB
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Msg. 275798  Posted by AC on August 15, 2000 at 22:42:32:

In Reply to: Re: BSA Superstar posted by Keith Morris on August 15, 2000 at 10:28:52:

I noticed in the sales ad on PSI that the muzzle velocity for the Superstar was 950 instead of 1020 which BSA has claimed. The Superstar seems to be a very good product, and it's sale price looks great. BSA seems to have a good enough product to not have to misrepresent their muzzle velocity.
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Msg. 275797  Posted by chasm on August 15, 2000 at 22:35:49:

Fellow Airgunners,

I've been thinking recently, thanks to some serious NorCal exposure, about getting into, horrors, the PCP world. If I decide to, not a sure thing yet, my thinking is to put myself into MAC 1's hands and follow his recommendations as to what I should get in a Career. I've met Tim and am very comfortable with his airgun expertise. Only question I still have is whether PCP's are the way to go. Any thoughts on this decision will be appreciated. TIA

chasm
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Msg. 275796  Posted by Simon Slick on August 15, 2000 at 22:35:43:

In Reply to: .22 Remington posted by matt sudol on August 15, 2000 at 21:56:26:

Matt, I've never seen a .22 Magnum rifle that would shoot .22 long rifle. L8R SSlick
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Msg. 275795  Posted by john on August 15, 2000 at 22:33:52:

In Reply to: Re: AIR-17 Go to your earlier post John:) posted by Tyler on August 15, 2000 at 21:43:53:

Thanks alot i will have to try that. My sights are beginning to move as well...
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Msg. 275794  Posted by Padre Marty on August 15, 2000 at 22:33:23:

In Reply to: Yep, no mods. posted by Gary on August 14, 2000 at 21:41:03:

Agreed Gary, much better than the stock iron sights...which makes one want to wonder, why doesn't Crosman just sell the 397 with the Williams sight at the appropriate price to account for its additional cost and make 2 companies happier!

Best to all!
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Msg. 275793  Posted by B on August 15, 2000 at 22:31:02:

In Reply to: CO2 Semi-Auto Rifle Question posted by Scott S. on August 15, 2000 at 17:17:25:

Scott, look at EPistols.com they do have 5 shot repeater Aeron Chameleon Mod 40.

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Msg. 275792  Posted by Simon Slick on August 15, 2000 at 22:29:07:

See url below.

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Msg. 275791  Posted by RBest on August 15, 2000 at 22:23:19:

In Reply to: Re: Ordering Hakko Scope from ABO USA posted by Raymond on August 15, 2000 at 21:59:15:

Ray: they were pushing COD at the time. I ordered a couple Hakko Airgun Pro adjustable mounts. (Excellent-BTW). I think with shipping and COD charges, they ran about $54 each. These are really nice 'drooper' mounts, and rock solid. RB
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Msg. 275790  Posted by RBest on August 15, 2000 at 22:19:26:

In Reply to: Re: Every airgun has it's place posted by Swinson on August 15, 2000 at 21:46:21:

It's genetic. I'm descended from nearsighted orangutangs(sp). RB
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Re: Crazy guy with a pellet gun


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Msg. 275789  Posted by RBest on August 15, 2000 at 22:11:31:

In Reply to: Crazy guy with a pellet gun posted by BSJ on August 15, 2000 at 21:58:58:

That's sad. I was hoping Lieberman would be a modifying force to Gore on gun control, although Senator Lieberman isn't exactly a friend to the Second Amendment. I've had the Senator help me out with a few things in the past, and he's one of the most honorable politicians I've ever known. I expect he'll follow Gore's lead on these issues now. Just lovely. RB
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Msg. 275788  Posted by BSJ on August 15, 2000 at 22:07:57:

In Reply to: Bombing Alert posted by Swinson on August 15, 2000 at 21:51:03:


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Re: How Good is the BAIKAL IZH-61


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Msg. 275787  Posted by TCooper on August 15, 2000 at 22:05:28:

In Reply to: How Good is the BAIKAL IZH-61 posted by Tyler on August 15, 2000 at 13:37:55:

I live in Canada too. I bought two IZH-61s earlier this year.
The guns are very accurate for the price you pay. I am able to shoot .18"-.22" groups at 10 meters for 5 shots ctc. At 20 meters it will group 5/8" for 5 shots.
I have one gun scoped with a 3-9 sportview AO and the other has a Williams FP-AG peep.
One gun will shoot 480fps with 7.7gr Meisterkugelns, the other shoots 445fps.
Best pellets seem to be Meisterkugeln lights (7.7gr), supermatch and CPLs. Hobbys and Gecos shoot good too.
Later,
Todd
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Msg. 275786  Posted by RBest on August 15, 2000 at 22:02:22:

In Reply to: Obligatory Career 707's Rule post! posted by Swinson on August 15, 2000 at 21:57:24:

Steve's gonna give you a sloppy, wet kiss when he gets back! I have it good authority that he'll be trolling with a drag line through several English gunshops, so who knows? Maybe Career's won't be on his "A list" after he gets home. he he RB
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Re: M54 .177 or .22 cal?


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Msg. 275785  Posted by HG on August 15, 2000 at 22:01:36:

In Reply to: M54 .177 or .22 cal? posted by Scott on August 15, 2000 at 21:03:25:

.177 is best for target .22 for hunting. My preference would be to get the gun in .22 and then get another .177 low cost airgun to target shoot with. Extensive target shooting with a heavy, high power airgun is not ideal. As for durability I will have to pass that to someone else.
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Msg. 275784  Posted by Raymond on August 15, 2000 at 21:59:15:

In Reply to: Re: Ordering Hakko Scope from ABO USA posted by RBest on August 15, 2000 at 21:32:34:

Russ, I was going to order one of their 1" diameter Superb scopes. What did you order that only took 21 days delivery time? If they are not taking CC orders, how does one usually pay for their products (check/money order)? Thanks....
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Msg. 275783  Posted by BSJ on August 15, 2000 at 21:58:58:


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Msg. 275782  Posted by Swinson on August 15, 2000 at 21:57:24:

Regards,
Craig
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.22 Remington


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Msg. 275781  Posted by matt sudol on August 15, 2000 at 21:56:26:

I know this is an airgun forum and I am an active participante with my RWS 45 and blue streak but I also have firearms but my consern is if the .22 remington 597 magnum is can it shoot long rifle also?
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Re: Moonrise Over Texas


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Msg. 275780  Posted by RBest on August 15, 2000 at 21:54:58:

In Reply to: Re: Moonrise Over Texas posted by Mike H on August 15, 2000 at 20:24:41:

Mike: I'm in a valley of sorts, between two ridges; so it's much the same. RB
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Re: Are airsoft guns legal in canada?


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Msg. 275779  Posted by TCooper on August 15, 2000 at 21:53:13:

In Reply to: Are airsoft guns legal in canada? posted by Crane on August 15, 2000 at 18:20:06:

An old friend of mine owns a paintball shop in Ontario. He sells the new airsoft guns with the orange ring around the muzzle. According to him they are legal and he sells may different types.
FWIW,
Todd
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WHEW! had me worried for a minute there.


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Msg. 275778  Posted by BSJ on August 15, 2000 at 21:51:45:

In Reply to: Re: Every airgun has it's place posted by RBest on August 15, 2000 at 21:42:11:

Just kiddin' dude.

Keep workin' it and I bet it gets better.
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Bombing Alert


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Msg. 275777  Posted by Swinson on August 15, 2000 at 21:51:03:

RC is KeithD as well as Durk. Pay no attention to him, he's just bombed my guest book as well.
Marty watch out for your forum.

Regards,
Craig
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Crosman 1760 vs QB78


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Msg. 275776  Posted by Mark Ferreira on August 15, 2000 at 21:48:01:

Seeing that the QB78 is on back order with all the dealers, is the Crosman 1760 just the reintroduction of the 160 in .177? Does it have a scope rail or groved for a scope? My guess is that it would be very easy to have it repaired or get parts as compared to the QB78. I think the 1760 has a longer barrel and is lighter. Thanks for any info.
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Msg. 275775  Posted by BSJ on August 15, 2000 at 21:48:00:

In Reply to: Re: Every airgun has it's place posted by wved on August 15, 2000 at 21:39:42:

Craig can attest to this. I keep asking complete strangers if they want to get into serious airgunning. We were at a local gun shop when we overheard a guy asking about a cleaning kit for his airgun. Up perked our ears, and we started talkin'. Come to find out the guys father lives down the street from me. So I expect to see him around here too.

Oh, I ain't the most social fellow either.
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Msg. 275774  Posted by Swinson on August 15, 2000 at 21:47:03:

In Reply to: Re: Every airgun has it's place posted by RBest on August 15, 2000 at 21:35:41:

yeah oddly they work pretty well in that gun? Who would guess.

Regards,
Craig
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Msg. 275773  Posted by Swinson on August 15, 2000 at 21:46:21:

In Reply to: Re: Every airgun has it's place posted by RBest on August 15, 2000 at 21:42:11:

Yeah something going on with your right arm.....so what ups up with the hairy palm and loss of vision?

Regards,
Craig
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Msg. 275772  Posted by RBest on August 15, 2000 at 21:45:44:

In Reply to: Catalogs posted by Jason on August 15, 2000 at 21:14:55:

Crosman and Daisy both have websites. RB
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Msg. 275771  Posted by wved on August 15, 2000 at 21:44:52:

In Reply to: Temp. Stock Modifications for Field Traget posted by Tom L. on August 15, 2000 at 20:38:53:

I saw a guy at a FT shoot that had applied velcro to his stock and had a nice looking "upholstered" riser block (don't know what it was made of) that he could attach to the stock (or remove) as needed.
Regards, wved
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Re: AIR-17 Go to your earlier post John:)


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Msg. 275770  Posted by Tyler on August 15, 2000 at 21:44:32:

In Reply to: AIR-17 posted by john on August 15, 2000 at 21:33:00:

Hey john go to your earlier post....i made a follow up for that one. It should answer your questions.
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Re: AIR-17 Go to your earlier post John:)


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Msg. 275769  Posted by Tyler on August 15, 2000 at 21:43:53:

In Reply to: AIR-17 posted by john on August 15, 2000 at 21:33:00:

Hey john go to your earlier post....i made a follow up for that one. It should answer your questions.
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Re: Temp. Stock Modifications for Field Traget


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Msg. 275768  Posted by TStray on August 15, 2000 at 21:43:51:

In Reply to: Temp. Stock Modifications for Field Traget posted by Tom L. on August 15, 2000 at 20:38:53:

You might want to check this out.I was thumbing through their website and I thought about your post.It might be just the ticket.URL enclosed.
Good luck...........Tom

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Msg. 275767  Posted by RBest on August 15, 2000 at 21:42:11:

In Reply to: Re: Every airgun has it's place posted by BSJ on August 15, 2000 at 21:28:46:

Brian: I may come up to Westfield Sunday, but I doubt I'll shoot. I haven't been in the FT position since last October and I have some weird neurological thing going on with my right arm. My strength is pretty much back to normal, but I'm just not very steady. Most of my shooting has been from a bench since then. Pisses me off!!! RB
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AirPistol Silho Distances


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Msg. 275766  Posted by Mac1 on August 15, 2000 at 21:41:31:

In Reply to: Air Pistol Silhouette Distances... Which are correct? posted by dscott on August 15, 2000 at 19:25:35:

It was always 10, 12.5, 15 and 18 yards. I saw the wrong numbers on the back of Daisy zinc targets but I never saw anyone else give out bad info.
When we first started rifle silhouette we used 1/10th scale high power which is 20, 30, 38.5 and 50 meters. That didn't last but the pistols have never been shot at any distance except as listed above.

Later

Tim
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AIR-17..at least it looks nice, John please read!


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Msg. 275765  Posted by Tyler on August 15, 2000 at 21:40:18:

In Reply to: Re: Heard of the crosman black lightning? posted by john on August 15, 2000 at 20:40:27:

They quit selling Air-17s in 1990 I think. I couldnt tell you how much they retailed for since I got it off a nieghbor, my guess would be anywhere between $50 and $60 bucks American. I paid $40 (Canadian) for it(thats about half price) In case your interested i performed a few modifications to it. After awhile the front sight moved from left to right after firing the gun. So I removed the handle and the front sight with my dad's Dremmel multi-purpose tool.I left the magazine on to make the rifle look right(it looked funny without it) In place of the sights I mounted a Tasco 4x15 scope on the dovetail mounts which were already there. I also added a sling using an old black backpack strap and some creative sewing. I then screwed 2 screws straight into the plastic, this took a bit of effort by hand...(a power tool would be way better though) I put 1 screw in the front forward facing part of the fore arm and 1 screw in the forward facing part of the handle(inside). This made the rifle look pretty good and only cost me $16 bucks (for the new scope) It gave the rifle a good look and it didnt shoot too bad either. Since your gun only set you back $2 maybe you should try it. P.S. by the way if theres any rust spots on the barrel or pump tube use some spray on Tremclad Rust Paint (makes it look like new!!)e-mail me if you have any questions or ideas at whereismymind83@hotmail.com Hope I was of some help to you!
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Msg. 275764  Posted by wved on August 15, 2000 at 21:39:42:

In Reply to: Re: Every airgun has it's place posted by BSJ on August 15, 2000 at 21:14:22:

Ya know, airguns have a way of doin' that! :c(=) Though my brother and I only live 4 miles apart, we had gone separate ways except for an occasional fishing trip. Then I loaned him a R9 that I had just bought and he was hooked. He bought that gun from me and we get together quite often now for shootin, movies, bowling, fishing etc. etc. This airgunnin really has some nice side benefits doesn't it!! Regards, wved
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Re: Interesting Targets


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Msg. 275763  Posted by BSJ on August 15, 2000 at 21:39:02:

In Reply to: Re: Interesting Targets posted by Bob Miller on August 14, 2000 at 22:34:50:

My tomatoes aren't even ripe yet. I'm up in northern Vermont.
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Re: Every airgun has it's place


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Msg. 275762  Posted by RBest on August 15, 2000 at 21:35:41:

In Reply to: Re: Every airgun has it's place posted by Swinson on August 15, 2000 at 21:24:12:

Is that what it's sighted in with? (the scope dials?). I have some of those laying around, but was using CP's. Those RWS FTS 10.6's really bite it in the Super Tens. Awful! RB
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AIR-17


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Msg. 275761  Posted by john on August 15, 2000 at 21:33:00:

I bought one at a yard sale for $2 and its a fun gun for just popping BB's, but a friend of mine is interested in one also. I have never seen one in a store. What are their retail prices? Any idea where to find them? Thanks.
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Msg. 275760  Posted by RBest on August 15, 2000 at 21:32:34:

In Reply to: Re: Ordering Hakko Scope from ABO USA posted by Raymond on August 15, 2000 at 20:33:33:

Ray: it depends on what you order. I had one thing arrive in 21 days via COD. (they weren't taking CC orders). RB
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Re: Every airgun has it's place


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Msg. 275759  Posted by BSJ on August 15, 2000 at 21:28:46:

In Reply to: Re: Every airgun has it's place posted by Swinson on August 15, 2000 at 21:24:12:

Yah, that's it. Get him messing with it so he won't be used to it by Sunday.

Looks like I'm going to need all the help I can get. Heh heh.
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Here's one! (URL inside)


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Msg. 275758  Posted by NS Canuck on August 15, 2000 at 21:25:41:

In Reply to: Tyler where was that airsoft website? (nt) posted by s[i]lencer on August 15, 2000 at 19:47:11:

http://www.redwolfairsoft.com/


Try my new site below


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Msg. 275757  Posted by Swinson on August 15, 2000 at 21:24:12:

In Reply to: Re: Every airgun has it's place posted by RBest on August 15, 2000 at 21:20:24:

Dude it's not too hard to get that thing to shoot a bit faster and with more power...should you so choose. I've had the thing shooting RWS FTS pellets (10.5) at about 800-820 because that's the speed that they shoot best at in that gun.

Regards.
Craig
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Msg. 275756  Posted by BSJ on August 15, 2000 at 21:22:42:

In Reply to: Re: Every airgun has it's place posted by RBest on August 15, 2000 at 21:20:24:

You're going to Westfield aren't you?
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Re: Every airgun has it's place


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Msg. 275755  Posted by RBest on August 15, 2000 at 21:20:24:

In Reply to: Re: Every airgun has it's place posted by BSJ on August 15, 2000 at 21:14:22:

Brian: I know what you mean. I'm using Craigs P-70 right now. Shooting 7.9 CP's at 880 fps, the gun is deliriously accurate, even with just a B&L 16X on it. RB
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Re: Every airgun has it's place = If he likes that one


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Msg. 275754  Posted by James L on August 15, 2000 at 21:17:57:

In Reply to: Every airgun has it's place posted by Swinson on August 15, 2000 at 20:49:10:

Craig
Get him one of the new Walther PPK/S's that are avaiable now the slide on this one actually works
And the gun is at least partly made of metal. Not real powerful but a lot of fun.
James L
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Catalogs


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Msg. 275753  Posted by Jason on August 15, 2000 at 21:14:55:

Does anyone know where to get or find bb gun catalogs on the internet?
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Msg. 275752  Posted by RBest on August 15, 2000 at 21:14:35:

In Reply to: Russ, I sent you an E-mail NT posted by bcd on August 15, 2000 at 20:41:48:

nt
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Msg. 275751  Posted by BSJ on August 15, 2000 at 21:14:22:

In Reply to: Every airgun has it's place posted by Swinson on August 15, 2000 at 20:49:10:

Dude. How do you do it? You just go around spreading "airgun joy" all over the place.

I was shootin' 9mm and .38 cases at 55 yards again. I would never have even tried targets that small before you came up here. Jonathan was with me too. As you know he wouldn't be shooting again, after 20 years of not firing a shot, without the gun you loaned him.

All I can say is, Thank you.
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I know of two distributors


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Msg. 275750  Posted by RBest on August 15, 2000 at 21:11:34:

In Reply to: Re: Anyone know of a canadian distributor that sells the beeman ss2 scope or cp99 (cheap price)?? posted by Swinson on August 15, 2000 at 20:52:40:

One is in Portugal (very reliable) and the other is Combat Military Optics in Savannah, GA. Occassionaly, AAA Sporting Goods will get a few also. RB
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M54 .177 or .22 cal?


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Msg. 275749  Posted by Scott on August 15, 2000 at 21:03:25:

What cal would be best the gun would be used for 40% hunting
and 60% target/plinking. Also I am wondering if the recoil absorbtion
system wears out over time eg.(5000-10000)shots and if it does can
it be re-built.I do like to shoot alot and with the high cost(750$ can)
of this
airgun would like to know how well it will hold up
over time.

Thanks
Scott
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Msg. 275748  Posted by AIRPOWER on August 15, 2000 at 20:53:53:

In Reply to: Need Phone Number Help posted by chasm on August 15, 2000 at 20:33:22:

I believe you are refering to Harry Herman.
I'm sure if you look in airgun ads you will
find him.
He is also called the other Harry from Florida,
so he wouldn't be confused with Harry S. of Pelaire Products.

Bob

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Msg. 275747  Posted by Swinson on August 15, 2000 at 20:52:40:

In Reply to: Anyone know of a canadian distributor that sells the beeman ss2 scope or cp99 (cheap price)?? posted by s[i]lencer on August 15, 2000 at 19:52:58:

I think that Beeman has not sold that scope for a LONG while. The now OEM Bushnell Scopes.
You can find them used or you can by the OEM Brand which is Hakko (still both are expensive)
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Msg. 275746  Posted by Tyler on August 15, 2000 at 20:50:53:

In Reply to: Tyler where was that airsoft website? (nt) posted by s[i]lencer on August 15, 2000 at 19:47:11:

Sorry its not the site....But the one i was talking about is from streetpro.com Its a military/special forces site.It has a page dedicated to airsoft replicas (the PSG-1 is cool)it gives an insight to the company and a few of its products. Its a long adress so forgive me .... if it dosn't work just try www.streetpro.com and try and find the page (I couldnt...though im sure its there somewhere)

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Msg. 275744  Posted by Swinson on August 15, 2000 at 20:49:10:

Spent some time with my girlfriends uncle, he's about 70. He got a Gammo P023 after seeing mine. Bought some copperhead BB's (which we replace with lead BB's, and we've been shooting for hours.
His pretty sick, physically he can't hold the gun up for more than 5 or so shots, but he gets a big kick out of shooting at the target (I got him a Crosman trap and a bunch of targets)
Now for me the gun is just a "'nother have" but for him it's a prized possesion, he was asking about cleaning it and what he should do to refill it and all that Co2 stuff. I well imagine that by weeks end the gun will have no finish as he has already polished it a dozen times. I'm actually worried we might run out of BB's (and I have lots of lead)
So it just goes to show, you're never too old to start airgunning and every airgun has it's place (a good lesson for me)

Regards,
Craig
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Msg. 275743  Posted by AirMonkey on August 15, 2000 at 20:48:53:

In Reply to: What The Heck Are These Things? - Pics - posted by MR Bulk™ on August 15, 2000 at 18:24:35:

Not quite sure what your (by proxy) creation is but I have full confidence in its quality. Keep the eternal flame of innovation burning and continue to pay attention to detail.

pneumatically yours,

AirMonkey
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Msg. 275742  Posted by Jason on August 15, 2000 at 20:43:28:

In Reply to: Anyone know of a canadian distributor that sells the beeman ss2 scope or cp99 (cheap price)?? posted by s[i]lencer on August 15, 2000 at 19:52:58:

www.knifeco.com, Walther CP-99 for about $119
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Msg. 275741  Posted by John B on August 15, 2000 at 20:42:26:

In Reply to: Customs in Canada: reaction time posted by Steve T on August 15, 2000 at 18:06:01:

Customs sent notice that they were holding it until I produced a valid FAC. I delivered my FAC in person and they released it to Canada Post that same day.
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Msg. 275740  Posted by bcd on August 15, 2000 at 20:41:48:

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Msg. 275739  Posted by john on August 15, 2000 at 20:40:27:

In Reply to: Re: Heard of the crosman black lightning? posted by Tyler on August 15, 2000 at 19:31:59:

I have an Air-17 as well and got it from a yard sale for $2. I was wonderign how much they cost retail since ive never seen one in a store...
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Msg. 275738  Posted by Max on August 15, 2000 at 20:40:12:

In Reply to: Re: What The Heck Are These Things? - Pics - posted by Neil on August 15, 2000 at 19:02:41:

Looks like I have to buy more CR600s
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Msg. 275737  Posted by Swinson on August 15, 2000 at 20:40:07:

In Reply to: Gary Cane custom stocks?? posted by JonF. on August 15, 2000 at 20:33:28:

Maybe this one?

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Msg. 275736  Posted by Padre Marty on August 15, 2000 at 20:39:24:

In Reply to: Colt 1911's posted by Dan Schballza on August 15, 2000 at 14:16:04:

Dan - I love my Colt 1911 CO2 - you will no doubt hear from folks who will not be enthusiastic because it's a Umarex, and therefore not as powerful, not as accurate, etc. However, understanding all that, I still like the "feel" - 38 oz. (I think!) just like the one I had when when I was a grunt (before I became a chaplain!)

Best to you and all on this wonderful billboard!

Padre Marty
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Msg. 275735  Posted by Tom L. on August 15, 2000 at 20:38:53:

Looking for any advice on the subject. In order for
me to get into the classic FT position I need to add
about 4" to the stock of the R9 to get it level.
I was thinking about wrapping a peice of leather
around some foam and lacing it in front of the
trigger anybody made any rigs like this or are there
any commercial products available?
Thanks in advance
Tom L.
P.S. I already laced a cabelas 3/4" cheek piece
for raising my eyes to the scope and it works great.
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Msg. 275734  Posted by Raymond on August 15, 2000 at 20:33:33:

In Reply to: Re: Ordering Hakko Scope from ABO USA posted by Wade on August 15, 2000 at 19:40:48:

My Hakko catalog says 90-120 days delivery time. Is that about right? Thanks...
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Msg. 275733  Posted by JonF. on August 15, 2000 at 20:33:28:

His link in at the airgun letter site doesn't work:(
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Msg. 275732  Posted by chasm on August 15, 2000 at 20:33:22:

Fellow Airgunners,

I've misplaced the telephone number of a couple of true airgunners who live in Florida. Shirley, Billy Dog, and Shirley's husband are regulars at some of the airgun shows. They are great folks and true characters. I received a call from Shirley today and would like to return it, so any help with the number will be appreciated. TIA

chasm
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Msg. 275731  Posted by NS Canuck on August 15, 2000 at 20:29:39:

In Reply to: Are airsoft guns legal in canada? posted by Crane on August 15, 2000 at 18:20:06:

The Canadian Firearms handbook "page 4" says that anything that fires a harmless projectile or does not fire a projectile is a "replica". An airsoft gun fires a plastic bb or pellet that is thought to be harmless. However, if you squeezed the trigger on an airsoft pistol about one inch away from your eye I doubt one would consider the airsoft item is as harmless as initially thought.

I noticed someone gave you the link to my site. There is a fellow by the name of Peter Kearns who has successfully managed to import airsoft items here in good old Canada. I think he has even CHARGED two Customs officers with illegal seizure of personal property under Tariff item 129 and 130 of the Canadian Customs act.

The folks at Customs Canada (with all due respect) have not the foggiest idea of what they are dealing with. Everything that looks like a gun is a replica to them, period. Anything that you order from the states will fall under such scrutiny.

In all truth, I could order a 357 magnum (with a six inch barrel) and get it quicker than I could a simple pellet gun or airsoft product. Why you may ask?

Real firearms are registered (LOL) and all the rest are not. In fact they have NO legislation, I repeat NO legislation to deal with these items.

All toy guns here in Canada must have a little red end (you may have noticed this) to show they are not real (ok, so you break the end off) but pellet guns (NON FAC stuff, easily purchased at the Canadian Tire I might add!) and airsoft have NOTHING to prevent the LEGAL importation into Canada.

The problem is, or seems, the wheels of justice (ok LOL) are turning yet again in Canada and I feel that my property will be used to set some sort of precedence. They feel they must deal with the tide of UNRESTRICTED pellets guns and Airsoft items in this country. There is a minority of pure bred imbeciles using such realistic looking items to stick up the local grocery store and now all the rest of us law abiding, tax paying, hard working people have to pay the price YET AGAIN.

This rant brought to you courtesy of CUSTOMS CANADA and NS Canuck. All rights reserved.

Check out my website and don't order anything from the states!

Good luck in all your endeavors!


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Msg. 275730  Posted by Spiderman on August 15, 2000 at 20:26:29:

In Reply to: Re: New comer alert!!! posted by KeithD on August 15, 2000 at 19:46:08:

According to Psychology Today, people who frequently use sexual insults, inferences and innuendo suffer from subconcious sexual insecurities themselves.
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Msg. 275729  Posted by Mike H on August 15, 2000 at 20:24:41:

In Reply to: Moonrise Over Texas posted by chasm on August 14, 2000 at 22:23:52:

Yeah, I'm eatin my heart out here, in NC the sun gets behind these tall trees at about 7, no real sunset to view unless you get on a mountain somewhere. I have seen the sunset orange and blue on the Texas hill country and it is awesome.
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Msg. 275728  Posted by Spiderman on August 15, 2000 at 20:08:38:

In Reply to: Re: What The Heck Are These Things? - Pics - posted by KeithD on August 15, 2000 at 19:43:41:

Maybe you should change your name to "Used Charmin"?
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Msg. 275727  Posted by Andrew on August 15, 2000 at 20:08:30:

I've decided to get another airgun. My current tuned HW97 is all I need for F.T., and I really want a PCP hunting gun in .22 cal

I have come down to these two choices. They cost the same, and I have seen both of these guns at F.T. Matches I went to. I also hear non stop raving about how good the career is.

a few Q's

Which of these guns gets more shots before the tank has to be topped of?
Can the AirForce talon's power be adjusted like the careers powerwheel?
ANd which of these is louder? Sound is a big problem for me, I cant have a loud gun that sounds like a firearm...

Thanks

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Msg. 275726  Posted by Roland Martens on August 15, 2000 at 20:06:25:

In Reply to: What The Heck Are These Things? - Pics - posted by MR Bulk™ on August 15, 2000 at 18:24:35:

nt.
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Msg. 275725  Posted by RBest on August 15, 2000 at 20:05:53:

In Reply to: Good Pistol and/or Rifle posted by Jason on August 15, 2000 at 20:03:09:

Jason: that info is available in the Airgun Resources section of the Airgun Letter homepage. Cruise thru the sites and take a look see. RB
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Msg. 275724  Posted by Jason on August 15, 2000 at 20:03:09:

It looks like I won't get my accuracy filling from good lookin co2 pistols. I'm looking for accuracy. Can everybody name the best of the best under my budget, 200 and under. Name pistols and rifles from all catagories based on method's of power, c02, Spring, etc. Accuracy is what I need, and low priced, thanks people.
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Msg. 275723  Posted by RBest on August 15, 2000 at 20:02:24:

In Reply to: Re: More than parallax... posted by KeithD on August 15, 2000 at 19:50:12:

Keith: I'm not surprised you logged no e-mail address. That remark was totally uncalled for! It doesn't take much of a man to post that crap from behind a monitor. I only say that because you seem to be preoccupied with gender identity. You post with a mans name, but your comments are quite catty ! Hmmmm... I wonder.... RB
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Msg. 275722  Posted by SS on August 15, 2000 at 19:56:44:

In Reply to: Scratch last post, read this instead. posted by Zero on August 15, 2000 at 19:17:34:

x
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Msg. 275721  Posted by Simon Slick on August 15, 2000 at 19:54:40:

In Reply to: Gamo Stinger posted by Zero on August 15, 2000 at 14:52:34:

The Stinger is an 8 shot break barrel repeater in .177 cal. It's advertised at about 750 fps. It looks like a nice little gun. I've been waiting myself for someone to report on the performance. L8R SSlick
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Msg. 275720  Posted by s[i]lencer on August 15, 2000 at 19:52:58:

Anyone know of a canadian distributor that sells the beeman ss2 scope or cp99 (cheap price)??
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Msg. 275715  Posted by s[i]lencer on August 15, 2000 at 19:47:11:

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Msg. 275711  Posted by Tyler on August 15, 2000 at 19:42:29:

In Reply to: Are airsoft guns legal in canada? posted by Crane on August 15, 2000 at 18:20:06:

No. There is a complicated series of laws in Canada.It would take forever to explain the laws in our country. I will give you a link to a another guy from Canada whose import Gamo P23 pistol was with held at the customs station because it was mistaken for an Airsoft replica, ive been to the airsoft website they also make a P23 I guess thats why all the confusion happened.

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Msg. 275709  Posted by Wade on August 15, 2000 at 19:40:48:

In Reply to: Ordering Hakko Scope from ABO USA posted by Raymond on August 15, 2000 at 19:34:52:

It usually takes a Looooong time to receive the
goods!
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Msg. 275708  Posted by Andrew Leung on August 15, 2000 at 19:39:01:

In Reply to: What The Heck Are These Things? - Pics - posted by MR Bulk™ on August 15, 2000 at 18:24:35:

Save me one when I get over there in Dec....
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Msg. 275707  Posted by Raymond on August 15, 2000 at 19:34:52:

Anybody have any experience ordering from them? Please let me know whether good or bad as I am interested in placing an order with them. Thanks.....
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Msg. 275706  Posted by Joe Whittaker on August 15, 2000 at 19:32:58:

In Reply to: Re: More than parallax... posted by peter huppertz on August 15, 2000 at 19:18:01:

I have a small problem with depth preseption. I depend on mechanacial range finding. If I know where thirteen is I can handle 12,11,and10. I was just answering a question. See ya.

IHS
Joe W.

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Msg. 275705  Posted by Tyler on August 15, 2000 at 19:31:59:

In Reply to: Heard of the crosman black lightning? posted by Crane on August 15, 2000 at 18:55:00:

Yes i have heard of the Black lightning. Actually its made by copperhead (a related company to crosman)Well I wouldnt call it a replica, its looks more like a sawed off version.It works on the pnuematic pump design,it only needs one pump. The barrel in relation to the actual Shotgun is quite short. As for performance it shoots pellets or BBs so it has a smooth bore barrel,so dont expect a great degree of accuracy from it. It shoots pellets at only 345 fps (feet per second)I bet you would be able to see the pellets or BBs moving towards the target! There is a magazine (more like a tube)which holds 18 BBs. And a Clip which holds 5 pellets (they say it does)its more like 2 or 3...the rest seem to fall out, this comes from my experience with the AIR 17(an M-16 look a like) Most crosman air guns of the single pump category follow one generic design. My friend owns one and he hasnt had any problems with it. Its not a bad gun for backyard plinking and it dosn't cost much. Personally I wouldnt get it. But it all depends on what you like. Good Luck
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Msg. 275703  Posted by RBest on August 15, 2000 at 19:26:39:

In Reply to: Re: Hey Russ.... posted by A-TEAM on August 15, 2000 at 18:48:05:

Ray: I was pretty sure you guys had specific recommendations, and alluded to it. Not owning a Career, I've never seen one of the kits myself. Regards, Russ
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Msg. 275702  Posted by dscott on August 15, 2000 at 19:25:35:

Brad Troyer lists the distances as:

10, 12.5, 15, and 18 yards.

I just downloaded that I thought was from a page from the NRA websites that lists the distances as:

10, 15, 20, and 25 meters, which would be approximately 11, 16, 22, and 27. Which is correct? Thanks.
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Msg. 275701  Posted by Joe Whittaker on August 15, 2000 at 19:24:59:

In Reply to: First of all posted by Joe Whittaker on August 15, 2000 at 19:11:16:

nt
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Msg. 275700  Posted by wayne on August 15, 2000 at 19:23:20:

In Reply to: Re: CO2 Semi-Auto Rifle Question posted by john from NY on August 15, 2000 at 17:20:08:

I justed tried my scoped 1077 for a Sheridan 397.
Who do you think got the better deal.
Buy a Cr400 it worth the the extra you'll pay. I have 3 of them.
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Msg. 275699  Posted by bcd on August 15, 2000 at 19:22:02:

In Reply to: Re: Unbridled Curiosity ... posted by peter huppertz on August 15, 2000 at 18:49:05:

Thanks Peter. I have been a shooter for a LONG time,
but this precision air gun world definitely has its
intriguing parts. My firearm shooting tapered severely
a few years ago due to being just plain too busy.

FYI, if you're familiar with the firearms world,
a couple of acquaintances from my place of employment
(we're all now retired ... pretty much) wrote the
BC sections of the Sierra manual, and also authored
the Ballistics Encyclopedia. They used my .264WM to
do some of the testing for that caliber's tables.
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Msg. 275698  Posted by peter huppertz on August 15, 2000 at 19:18:01:

In Reply to: More than parallax... posted by DaveG on August 15, 2000 at 18:03:34:

Dave, sorry to bust in. But Janny has been shooting with a scope that doesn't focus below 14 yards for a couple months (her FT career), and she said literally translated
"Darn. Can't these guys distinguish between 10 yards and 13 yards? That's a 30% increment, ferChrissake! You can compensate for that in a match, can't you? I mean I had to ever since I got the Shamal!"

JHO (just her opinion -- and if you're a wise man you won't challenge her in FT). She's looking forward to the 6-24 already.

peter


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Msg. 275697  Posted by Zero on August 15, 2000 at 19:17:34:

In Reply to: Re: Gamo Stinger posted by TJ on August 15, 2000 at 15:09:18:

Right then. Whichever one is the 8 shot repeater. Is it out yet? Is it any good?

-Zero the Less-Than-Perfect
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Msg. 275696  Posted by bcd on August 15, 2000 at 19:14:09:

In Reply to: First of all posted by Joe Whittaker on August 15, 2000 at 19:11:45:


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Msg. 275695  Posted by Joe Whittaker on August 15, 2000 at 19:13:13:

In Reply to: Where are the 'zero-crossings' in your setup? NT posted by bcd on August 15, 2000 at 18:23:36:

Let me correct that. I remembered my chart wrong. I reran the program and the difference between 10 and 13 is closer to .30 not .5. My zeros are 35 and 10, that comes to -1.00 at 10 yards and -0.71 at 13 yards if you are depending on your clicks that could still be a miss. I guess my big question would be how much better would 24x be over 18x? I use a 6-18 Swift and 45, 50, and 55 all look the same to me. If I could get the longer ranges I could hold over for the shorter ones. I just got spoiled when I used an 8-32 Burris at our last meet.

HIS
Joe W.


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Msg. 275694  Posted by Joe Whittaker on August 15, 2000 at 19:11:45:

In Reply to: Where are the 'zero-crossings' in your setup? NT posted by bcd on August 15, 2000 at 18:23:36:

Let me correct that. I remembered my chart wrong. I reran the program and the difference
Between 10 and 13 is closer to .30 not .5. My zeros are 35 and 10, that comes to
-1.00 at 10 yards and -0.71 at 13 yards if you are depending on your clicks
that could still be a miss. I guess my big question would be how much better
would 24x be over 18x? I use a 6-18 Swift and 45, 50, and 55 all look the same
to me. If I could get the longer ranges I could hold over for the shorter ones. I
just got spoiled when I used an 8-32 Burris at our last meet.

HIS
Joe W.


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Msg. 275693  Posted by Joe Whittaker on August 15, 2000 at 19:11:16:

In Reply to: Where are the 'zero-crossings' in your setup? NT posted by bcd on August 15, 2000 at 18:23:36:

Let me correct that. I remembered my chart wrong. I reran the program and the difference
Between 10 and 13 is closer to .30 not .5. My zeros are 35 and 10, that comes to
-1.00 at 10 yards and -0.71 at 13 yards if you are depending on your clicks
that could still be a miss. I guess my big question would be how much better
would 24x be over 18x? I use a 6-18 Swift and 45, 50, and 55 all look the same
to me. If I could get the longer ranges I could hold over for the shorter ones. I
just got spoiled when I used an 8-32 Burris at our last meet.

HIS
Joe W.


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Msg. 275692  Posted by wayne on August 15, 2000 at 19:10:54:

In Reply to: Re: Sheridan 397 Question posted by RBest on August 15, 2000 at 18:50:38:

nt

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Msg. 275690  Posted by Neil on August 15, 2000 at 19:02:41:

In Reply to: What The Heck Are These Things? - Pics - posted by MR Bulk™ on August 15, 2000 at 18:24:35:

I know what they are! All I have to say is, I already have mine.
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Msg. 275688  Posted by Crane on August 15, 2000 at 18:55:00:

Anyone heard of this remington 1187 replica shotgun from crosman? PLZ i need info. Is it any good?

Comments and thoughts here.

thx,

crane
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Msg. 275687  Posted by RBest on August 15, 2000 at 18:50:38:

In Reply to: Sheridan 397 Question posted by wayne on August 15, 2000 at 18:19:44:

Wayne: there is no adjustment. If the gun has been sitting on a shelf for more than a year- it has the heavier trigger, for which Crosman will supply a free kit to fix it. Contact Crosman at their website. RB
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Msg. 275686  Posted by peter huppertz on August 15, 2000 at 18:49:05:

In Reply to: Unbridled Curiosity ... posted by bcd on August 15, 2000 at 17:54:36:

> There are folks who actually see a difference in
> parallax, let alone trajectory, between 10m and
> 13m?

Yes. Fortunately, these people can also see the difference between a 30% increment, such as 10 yards and 13 yards.

Janny has been shooting with a scope that doesn't focus below 14 yards for some time, and she informs me that that has NOT been her handicap in using this scope.

She's looking forward to the 6-24x50, even though it doesn't focus below 13 yards, based on what Marty says, it's bound to be a vast improvement over the (much more expensive!) Tasco she's using now. And we've learnt to believe Marty.

Your question "where are the zero crossings" actually tells us that you DO know what you're talking about!

cheers,
peter

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Msg. 275685  Posted by RBest on August 15, 2000 at 18:48:09:

In Reply to: New comer alert!!! posted by Dan B. on August 15, 2000 at 15:20:48:

Dan:any preferences as to type? Co2, pump, spring powered (and gas rams)and PCP (SCUBA powered)? RB
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Msg. 275684  Posted by A-TEAM on August 15, 2000 at 18:48:05:

In Reply to: Hey Russ.... posted by Jeff on August 14, 2000 at 22:19:32:

The instructions for the spring kit give you very specific lubes to use. These can be purchased from Airgunh Express and many other locations. We garranty a satisfactory result if the instructions are followed to the letter. If you substitute a different lube and the result isn't satisfactory you will have the burden of cleaning out all the old lube and re-doing it correctly anyway. Best bet is to follow the instructions to the letter. They are explicit for a reason.

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Msg. 275683  Posted by acer on August 15, 2000 at 18:43:35:

In Reply to: rws 225 posted by shark dawg on August 15, 2000 at 02:12:34:

I own the 6" barrel version of the C225.
I like it a lot, good size and weight for
practicing in the back yard.
The things I don't like about it are the factory
sights. The rear sight is about twice as wide
as the front, making it tough to get tight groups.
The trigger is ok in single action,
and not great in double action.
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Msg. 275682  Posted by John on August 15, 2000 at 18:32:34:

In Reply to: John CR 400 is bolt action repeater not semiauto NT posted by Roger Barker on August 15, 2000 at 18:19:46:

JP
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Msg. 275680  Posted by Steve T on August 15, 2000 at 18:29:22:

In Reply to: Oh, don't get me started! Day 1,000,000 in my Customs seizure! posted by NS Canuck on August 15, 2000 at 18:26:19:

nt
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Msg. 275679  Posted by bcd on August 15, 2000 at 18:26:40:

In Reply to: Re: F/T shooters ... posted by RBest on August 15, 2000 at 18:20:11:


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Msg. 275678  Posted by NS Canuck on August 15, 2000 at 18:26:19:

In Reply to: Customs in Canada: reaction time posted by Steve T on August 15, 2000 at 18:06:01:

My pistol (GAMO P23) was sent from Iowa on May 4th. Assuming the mail moves at a decent rate I figure the folks at Customs Canada must have had the item for nearly a month before I received official word.

If the item you are referring to happens to be a pistol man are you in for the run around! Be prepared to lose your already paid for property. If you can figure out a faster way to get your item back let the rest of us in the same situation know.

Check out my website for a full story on the Customs Canada situation I am still trying to have resolved.

Send me some mail if you are looking for further information.

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Msg. 275677  Posted by MR Bulk™ on August 15, 2000 at 18:24:35:

Many of you have been looking long and hard for these -- and 36 of them may finally become available soon.

Pics and story at link below.

MR Bulk™

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Msg. 275676  Posted by bcd on August 15, 2000 at 18:23:36:

In Reply to: Re: Unbridled Curiosity ... posted by Joe Whittaker on August 15, 2000 at 18:20:45:


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Msg. 275675  Posted by Joe Whittaker on August 15, 2000 at 18:20:45:

In Reply to: Unbridled Curiosity ... posted by bcd on August 15, 2000 at 17:54:36:

The problem with the 13 yards is, like with my
Tx shooting 925 w/cp lites the differance between
10 and 13 yards is more than a half inch. On a half inch kill zone that could be a clean miss.
Oh well it will be spring before I get a 32x or better, maybe the 8-32 Swift will be fixed.

IHS
Joe W.
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Msg. 275674  Posted by RBest on August 15, 2000 at 18:20:11:

In Reply to: F/T shooters ... posted by bcd on August 15, 2000 at 18:11:07:

So did the Body Snatchers!LOL RB
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Msg. 275673  Posted by Crane on August 15, 2000 at 18:20:06:

Are airsoft guns legal in canada?
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Msg. 275672  Posted by Roger Barker on August 15, 2000 at 18:19:46:

In Reply to: CO2 Semi-Auto Rifle Question posted by Scott S. on August 15, 2000 at 17:17:25:

NT
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Msg. 275671  Posted by wayne on August 15, 2000 at 18:19:44:

Is the trigger adjustable on this model. I just got one and it seem heavy.
Any help is appreciated.
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Msg. 275670  Posted by RBest on August 15, 2000 at 18:16:15:

In Reply to: TX 200 breechseal question ? posted by FPoole on August 15, 2000 at 16:19:01:

Is the O ring OK? RB
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Msg. 275668  Posted by John on August 15, 2000 at 18:14:31:

In Reply to: CO2 Semi-Auto Rifle Question posted by Scott S. on August 15, 2000 at 17:17:25:

Scott, comparing the Crosman 500 to the Crosman 400 would be like comparing a 76 AMC Gremlin
to a 57 Chevy on steroids!
The 400 shoots .22 cal pellets rather than .175
BB's. The 400 has a rifled barrel as opposed to a smooth bore, a wood stock as opposed to plastic,
good heavy steel as opposed to light weight metal,
uses 2 CO2 cartridges as opposed to one, many models have an adjustable trigger though either
are much better than the 500's trigger.
Stock velocity on a 400 is about 650 F.P.S. with
14.3gr. pellets as opposed to about 350 F.P.S. with 7gr. BB's for the 500.
Enough said, buy a used 400 in good shape, it's worth the extra dough.

Good Luck,
John

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Msg. 275667  Posted by RBest on August 15, 2000 at 18:12:22:

In Reply to: Why are all umarex pistols so weak (power wise)?(nt) posted by Crane on August 15, 2000 at 18:03:58:

They are made in europe, where there is no use for powerful air pistols. Most of them are shot indoors, in clubs. RB
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Msg. 275666  Posted by bcd on August 15, 2000 at 18:11:07:

In Reply to: More than parallax... posted by DaveG on August 15, 2000 at 18:03:34:

This is crazy! I've seen pictures of F/T shooters ... they sure LOOKED like normal people!
:-)
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Msg. 275665  Posted by RBest on August 15, 2000 at 18:11:00:

In Reply to: Oh No! My new IZH-61 ... posted by Mark Budai on August 15, 2000 at 16:47:50:

Mark: after you tap out the pellets, make sure you clean the bore. Some have so much crud in them that the pellet drags real bad and won't exit the bore ! RB
PS; DON"T use that shish=kabob stick they give you for a cleaning rod ! That thing is a waepon in and of itself!
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Msg. 275664  Posted by Steve T on August 15, 2000 at 18:06:01:

To all who know: How long does it take for a customs warehouse/holding facility to tell you that they have your gun?
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Msg. 275663  Posted by Crane on August 15, 2000 at 18:03:58:

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Msg. 275662  Posted by DaveG on August 15, 2000 at 18:03:34:

In Reply to: Unbridled Curiosity ... posted by bcd on August 15, 2000 at 17:54:36:

The need for a scope that will focus down to 10 yards or even under, really comes into play for F/T shooters, as well as any one else that wants to get the very most out of their particular gun. What this close focusing really allows is the ability to accuratly range find, and that is very important for proper shot placement. In the case of an F/T shooter the difference between 10 yards and 13 yards can be 28 clicks on the elevation knob. 28 clicks is a whole lot of elevation change to put a pellet into a 3/8' hole... For a hunter, it is the difference between making a head shot on a ground squirrel, or missing completely...
In addition, the AO also alows one to set the scope up for a minnimum of parallax error, which is also very important for putting a pelet on a very small target.
Regards,
DaveG
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Msg. 275661  Posted by bcd on August 15, 2000 at 17:54:36:

In Reply to: Please read important update on the 6-24x50mm scope..... posted by Marty Silver Streak on August 15, 2000 at 17:24:49:

There are folks who actually see a difference in
parallax, let alone trajectory, between 10m and 13m?

I'm mildly amazed, but with the kind of precision
quoted in the air gun world, probably shouldn't be.

I hate this part! Now I'm going to have to get an
AO scope just to see what all the fuss is about.
I hate this! What have you people done to me?!
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Msg. 275660  Posted by pilkguns on August 15, 2000 at 17:53:08:

In Reply to: Need to get a Tau 7 repaired, please tell me where. posted by Joe Matusic, MD on August 14, 2000 at 14:43:58:

hi Joe, sen that critter here, we will get it straight for you
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Msg. 275659  Posted by Steve T on August 15, 2000 at 17:52:51:

In Reply to: Re: Oh No! My new IZH-61 ... posted by Steve B. on August 15, 2000 at 17:10:18:

I my Dad once got 7 pellets stuck in a break-action gun!
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Msg. 275658  Posted by bcd on August 15, 2000 at 17:45:32:

In Reply to: Re: feets calculated in meters posted by BSJ on August 15, 2000 at 16:36:20:

FYI

Unlike many other "conversion factors", 0.3048 meter = 1 foot is EXACT.

It's one of those numbers that even someone who has long suffered with juvenile onset Altzheimer's can remember. Just don't ask me how old I am ... or my name for that matter :-)
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Msg. 275657  Posted by Tom Gaylord on August 15, 2000 at 17:44:44:

In Reply to: How bout single pumpers posted by Gary on August 15, 2000 at 13:54:27:

Gary,

A single-stroke pneumatic differs from a multi-pump in that it doesn't really have what we would call an inlet valve. The piston head that compresses the air also serves that purpose.

When the gun is pumped, the head expands and seals in the high-pressure air in a small chamber until the exhaust valve opens and releases it. In order to flex enough to do this, the pump head is made of a lower durometer material and is therefore more flexible than a hard valve seal. It has to be, to do its job. Often, it is designed with a thin lip around the sealing circumfrence.

If you leave a single-stroke gun pumped for very long, the softer piston head/seal will begin to extrude through any convenient opening, like the space it is sealing in the pump tube. Most manufacturers recommend shooting a single-stroke within 5 minutes of poumping for this reason.

Hope this answers your question.

Tom Gaylord
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Msg. 275655  Posted by NS Canuck on August 15, 2000 at 17:34:32:

In Reply to: How Good is the BAIKAL IZH-61 posted by Tyler on August 15, 2000 at 13:37:55:

I bought mine from Golden Toller and do plan to buy another in the near future. The shipping charges are very reasonable with Joe at Golden Toller. I would suggest getting you money changed at a bank before you buy the money order. The Canada Post people charge about 1.51 per dollar whereas the bank is around 1.41 I believe.

Bear in mind that Golden Toller has the BEST price on the net for these items! I have checked a number of websites and he even send you the second spring and piston cap WITHOUT CHARGE!

Actually I would suggest buying two right off the bat to save on US Airmail costs (no UPS unless you like spending money!) and also if you have a wife she is going to claim the first one once she has a go at it!

Check out my website for photos of my IZH-61.

A scope is easy enough to mount and I can hit pennies from around 120 ft away (beer caps are easy to hit also) with a little patience and probably a lot of luck!

You can't go wrong with this item. I have half a dozen friends that want to order this rifle after a single day of shooting.


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Msg. 275654  Posted by Marty Silver Streak on August 15, 2000 at 17:24:49:

In Reply to: The new Swift 677M 6-24x50mm is here, just arrived minutes ago..and this one is a keeper! posted by Marty Silver Streak on August 15, 2000 at 16:06:56:

This will teach me to get all excited and in too much of a hurry. I just taped off an exact distance and the scope will only go down to 13 yards. If this is a problem don't get it. Got all excited about how bright and clear they were and guestamated the range back from a known range as to focus distance, instead of taping it off exactly.

Marty
SSSports

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Msg. 275653  Posted by john from NY on August 15, 2000 at 17:20:08:

In Reply to: CO2 Semi-Auto Rifle Question posted by Scott S. on August 15, 2000 at 17:17:25:

The 1077 is really your best choice. You might be able to find the 400 and 500 at gun auctions.

hope this helps-
john
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Msg. 275652  Posted by Scott S. on August 15, 2000 at 17:17:25:

Greetings to all,
I am new to airgunning & interested in a buying a CO2 powered semi-auto rifle. I have read good things about the crosman 500 but have been unable to locate any. How does this rifle compare to the crosman 400...also out of production I believe. How does the crosman 1077 compare to either of these? Does anyone have any suggestions where to find the 500 or 400? Are there other makes of semi auto rifles that are reccomended? The main use will be for plinking & occasional extermination of small rodents. Any & all information will be greatly appreciated!
Many thanks,
Scott
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Msg. 275651  Posted by Steve B. on August 15, 2000 at 17:10:18:

In Reply to: Oh No! My new IZH-61 ... posted by Mark Budai on August 15, 2000 at 16:47:50:

Mark: Crud in the barrel is pretty common with these guns. THEY NEED TO BE CLEANED THROUGHLY BEFORE USE. In my opion inside and out. You haven't hurt anything (not yet anyway) with the stuck pellets; they're just parked in there. Get several 1/8 dowels (in case you break one). Do yourself a favor and work from the muzzle end since it's choked and you have several to drive out, drive them out the breech. If you remove the small set screw looking screw at the end of the receiver you can remove the bolt - that may help.

Insert the dowel and gently but firmly tap the pellets out. I understand how a guy can do this, you have to count your shoots with the magazine. I've done it myself but I was lucky and they shot out. I doubt you hurt the spring (dry fires are also common), they're pretty tough. Good luck...

HTH - Steve B.
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Msg. 275650  Posted by Uncle Gary on August 15, 2000 at 16:58:18:

In Reply to: "this is going to bring a smile to several peoples faces. " posted by peter huppertz on August 15, 2000 at 16:50:32:

Make it FOUR people counting me!(In my case of course, it'll have to be a [GRIN!] Cheers!
Unc

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Msg. 275649  Posted by peter huppertz on August 15, 2000 at 16:50:32:

In Reply to: The new Swift 677M 6-24x50mm is here, just arrived minutes ago..and this one is a keeper! posted by Marty Silver Streak on August 15, 2000 at 16:06:56:

Yep, I know three of them -- you, she and I.

:-)

peter
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Msg. 275648  Posted by Mark Budai on August 15, 2000 at 16:47:50:

I just got my new IZH 61 last night. I checked it out a little, lengthened the stock, then went out to shoot a few rounds after dinnner.

Well, somehow I managed to load two pellets into the breech before shooting. I have since read (in old AGL threads) on JP Craig's site that this is somewhat common with 61 beginners. Anyway, I was shooting behind my house, into a 10 acre field. My target was a milk jug 20+ yards away. SO, when I didn't hit the jug or see the pellet impact, I thought the sights were just off.

After another shot I thought, "I'd better move closer and see where these pellets are going." After the third shot, I FINALLY realized that the pellets were going pretty much NOWHERE!! So now I have four pellets in my barrel :(

I am going to the hardware store this evening to buy a wooden dowel. I hope to be able to back the pellets out with this. If I have no success with this approach, does anyone have other ideas? I can see the first pellet within probably 1 1/2 inches of the breech, and I assume the others are not too far beyond that.

What damage might I have done to this gun? Will forcing the pellets out likely damage the barrel? Has the spring been overstressed? I could hardly get to sleep last night for kicking myself about this...

Thanks in advance,

Mark

P.S. When I look in the *crown* end of the barrel, I can see no rifling. Should I be able to? Also, the inside of the barrel is a brown, rusty color. Is this grease residue, or could I really have gotten a new gun with rust in the barrel?
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Msg. 275647  Posted by peter huppertz on August 15, 2000 at 16:41:12:

In Reply to: Re: The new Swift 677M 6-24x50mm is here, just arrived minutes ago..and this one is a keeper! posted by jeroen on August 15, 2000 at 16:20:45:

If we consolidate the shipments, we can save considerably on the cost! and I am only half an hour from where you live.

Read your email for my phone number.

peter
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Msg. 275646  Posted by Marty Silver Streak on August 15, 2000 at 16:40:45:

In Reply to: Re: The new Swift 677M 6-24x50mm is here, just arrived minutes ago..and this one is a keeper! posted by jeroen on August 15, 2000 at 16:20:45:

Tomorrow. Now Peter H is going to email you about doing a combined shiptment, so get back to me when you guys decide if you want to do that is should save you some money on import duties.

Thanks,
Marty
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Msg. 275645  Posted by BSJ on August 15, 2000 at 16:36:20:

In Reply to: feets calculated in meters posted by AIR Sniper on August 15, 2000 at 16:28:26:

1' = 0.3048m
1m = 3.28'

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Msg. 275644  Posted by Marty Silver Streak on August 15, 2000 at 16:34:49:

In Reply to: Re: The new Swift 677M 6-24x50mm Marty please refresh my memory what reticle and what click value please? n/t posted by Anthony on August 15, 2000 at 16:19:53:

Anthony,

And everyone else, these are 1/4" MOA @ 100 yards.
Qudraplex reticle, speed focus diopter. Lots of room between AO marks up to 50 yds.

These do have the same under the cap MOA dial as the 8-32x came with, and they have horizontal lines scribed on the barrel to indicate the number of turns up or down, as well as the normal click marks around the circumference of the dial. The reset to zero is done with an included allen wrench. For those of you that would make a custom know anyway this should pose no problems at all. Just install your knob, and leave the dust cap off.

HTH
Marty
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Msg. 275643  Posted by AIR Sniper on August 15, 2000 at 16:28:26:

What is the difference and how do i calculate this
Thanks.

Holland
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Zero! Found my 20+ year old sheridan blue worked very well. I will take Tom's advice and fashion more practical harpoons.


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Msg. 275642  Posted by icon on August 15, 2000 at 16:27:20:

In Reply to: Hey, I resemble that comment! posted by Zero on August 15, 2000 at 13:59:17:

I do want to stick with non-metal shafts in the barrel. I hav'nt screwed up grooves and don't want to. Maybe cheap field target arrows that are
lathed down. Or a releasable steel tip like the bow fishermen use? Big carp come to the surface
and I feel about them as most do about grackles & other black birds.
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Msg. 275639  Posted by peter huppertz on August 15, 2000 at 16:21:22:

In Reply to: RWS 54 goes " Klunk " posted by Bob Miller on August 14, 2000 at 15:21:35:

... they go "clunk", like it should be. Don't expect a German airgun to pronounce "clunk" properly! ;-)

*uncontrollable maniacal laughter* sorry, I just couldn't control myself on this one.
You've had good advice down below, btw.

cheers,
peter
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Msg. 275638  Posted by jeroen on August 15, 2000 at 16:20:45:

In Reply to: The new Swift 677M 6-24x50mm is here, just arrived minutes ago..and this one is a keeper! posted by Marty Silver Streak on August 15, 2000 at 16:06:56:

WOW,I think I'm lucky for a chance.
can't wait to see the mosquito's flying at 60 yards.
I'm glad for you ,that ,this turned out the way you wanted!!
greetings jeroen

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Msg. 275637  Posted by BSJ on August 15, 2000 at 16:20:28:

In Reply to: New comer alert!!! posted by Dan B. on August 15, 2000 at 15:20:48:

Perhaps you live near enough to someone to see some guns.

I'm in Verrr-mont.
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Msg. 275636  Posted by Anthony on August 15, 2000 at 16:19:53:

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n/t
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Msg. 275635  Posted by FPoole on August 15, 2000 at 16:19:01:

How does one go about adjusting the distance between the end of the barrel and compression tube assembly? I don't think mine is sealing tightly enough.
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Msg. 275633  Posted by Cody Dotter on August 15, 2000 at 16:17:45:

In Reply to: Re: Cool airgun posted by Barry on August 15, 2000 at 15:46:13:

Where did you get the gun? How much FPE does the gun shoot?
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Msg. 275632  Posted by Wade on August 15, 2000 at 16:17:40:

In Reply to: Re: New comer alert!!! posted by Happy Gardener on August 15, 2000 at 16:02:53:

Yes, they were definately head shots. It is THE
most thrilling hunting (with air guns) I have
ever experienced.
BTW, our guns only produce about 20/22 ft/lbs., but
is more than enough power out to 50 yds. with head
shots.
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Msg. 275631  Posted by peter huppertz on August 15, 2000 at 16:07:46:

In Reply to: Pete! You've got it wrong! Career 707-.22 for all around power, accuracy, fun etc. it has it all. Huge (expensive) power does not equate to great fun etc. nt posted by dirk dingle on August 15, 2000 at 15:47:13:

I'm not a fan of the Career, nor will I ever be, UNLESS DaveG gets the horrible hunting scenes off the panels to match the beauty of his Career stocks.

;-)

Having said that, on a more serious note, I've shot a Career a couple times, and didn't find it the Big Fun anybody around here says it is. Too mediocre a trigger, too fussy, and bad balance.
Some say it's the King of the Hill because it's so powerful. The Nitro Express is a bit more powerful, and a *lot* better made than a Career.

I also have a LOT more fun shooting my old Air Arms (at 12 ft/lbs mind you) because it's so darn accurate -- it enables me to hit a .177 pellet standing at 25 yards with a .177 pellet with surprising repeatability! (and this was not from a rest, just sitting overhand -- imagine that). I'm sure that a ZM2002 would outdo it, but for a 12 yr old gun, this is no mean feat.
I also have a lot more fun shooting my HW97 simply because it's a springer, and so sweet to shoot (and accurate to boot).

The Career, at the price for which it's sold in the USA, is possibly THE entry-level PCP, probably a good allrounder, and most likely the basis for what can be an excellent gun (better balanced stock, better trigger, better consistency over a full range of shots, less horrible looks maybe, better magazine). But to call it a god is a bit far-fetched, really. We expect our gods to be perfect, not just a good allrounder.

In Europe, or at least in the UK, the same role is reserved for the Falcon FN series, which in the UK cost about half of what a Career sells for.

Of course, I only type all this because I'm the appointed Career-basher on this forum! ;-)
I thought I could relax for a couple days now that Steve in CT is away from the Internet for a couple days, but apparently not so ;-)

peter
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Msg. 275630  Posted by Marty Silver Streak on August 15, 2000 at 16:06:56:

Well one right out of two is better than nothing!

Sharp as a razor and clear as a bell at 24x. Focuses down to 10 yards on full power.

Rangefinding is right on the money. So don't get the 8-32x but don't hesitate to get this one! Of all the Swifts this is the sharpest clearest one yet.

This one is a definite keeper.

I know this is going to bring a smile to several peoples faces.

Marty
SSSports

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Msg. 275629  Posted by Happy Gardener on August 15, 2000 at 16:02:53:

In Reply to: Re: New comer alert!!! posted by Wade on August 15, 2000 at 15:41:16:

The gobblers were impressive and my hat is off to you. Were the birds taken with head shots? I know some airguns have 70 ft/lbs but my guess is head shots. Even more impressive as the target is small and seldom still.
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Msg. 275628  Posted by Sid E on August 15, 2000 at 16:02:47:

In Reply to: Re: Are Diablos CPs posted by M Boyle on August 15, 2000 at 11:33:26:

Thanks for the advice and info.I went to the Pyaramid site and found some fun stuff.I was wondering about all of those pellets they carry.I don't read much about people on this forum using them(except for H&N).How many of them are same products for companies like Beeman/RWS but put in different containers?Are any/many of them decent-consistent quality and accurate?
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Msg. 275627  Posted by Cody Dotter on August 15, 2000 at 15:56:30:

In Reply to: Re: New comer alert!!! posted by M Boyle on August 15, 2000 at 15:37:36:

I've saw a gun that can shoot 600+ FPE! THAT'S RIGHT 600+ FPE! Go to the topic thingy WOW! Then click on the link. Go to the bottom of the webpage the link takes you to. Read the writing.
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Msg. 275626  Posted by jason on August 15, 2000 at 15:47:29:

In Reply to: Targets posted by Znagge on August 12, 2000 at 08:29:01:

i found out those mini butane lighters (i.e. Bic) give a nice display when hit as well ;)
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Msg. 275625  Posted by dirk dingle on August 15, 2000 at 15:47:13:

In Reply to: If the Career is god... posted by peter huppertz on August 14, 2000 at 18:01:53:

nt
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Msg. 275624  Posted by Doug Owen on August 15, 2000 at 15:46:30:

In Reply to: Re: times have changed??? posted by jj on August 14, 2000 at 13:44:11:

Gents,

As you so rightly point out, (white) men bashing is nearly the only hatred (aside from the NRA) that remains acceptable in some circles.

But things in other areas have changed too, the current philosophy being all encompassing. In the current case in point, single mothers, I'd like to point out another *serious* factor, unwed mothers. A generation or two back, this was fairly insignificant statistically....that has been fixed by the New World Order as well. Look it up. 10 years ago, *nation wide* one in four children was born to a currently unmarried (or never married) mother. One in three conceived as such. Today, some counties (like Alamedia County, California where I live) it's over *half*! That's right, half the children don't have a father to 'loose'.

We brought these social changes on ourselves and are now dealing with the predictable results.....or at least insisting someone else does.

As a non-parent member of the oppressor class, I can only look to the elections. I fear what 'four more years' could bring. The call seems to be to encourage all who can to vote, Republicans for Bush, Democrats for Nader....

Doug Owen
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Msg. 275623  Posted by Barry on August 15, 2000 at 15:46:13:

In Reply to: Cool airgun posted by matt sudol on August 15, 2000 at 13:45:45:

I used to have a S-P rifle, a bunch of MK-II cartridges, spare 0-rings, a field pump, & an astonishingly massive pump for home/shop use. All of which got ripped off a few years ago.

I loved the gun, and the article you link to describes much the same as my experience. A very nice-looking good-shooting unusual airgun that required much tinkering and fussing - the latter a positive quality for serious gun cranks.

The gun is a single-shot pre-charged pneumatic, taking cartridges about the size of a 16-guage shotgun shell. Each shell then is pre-charged and a pellet inserted in it. Operation is very much like a single-shot bolt-action cartridge rifle - that happens to take very odd cartridges. I forgot what I paid for it - seems I picked up one of the closeout rifles, seems it was certainly less than $200. A lot of the cost was in the accessories (pumps, cartridges, o-rings), which kicked the final cost to much more than $200.

A pox upon the dirtbag who ripped me off. He/She probably doesn't know what it is and certainly doesn't know how to use it. Wish I still had it.
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Msg. 275622  Posted by Wade on August 15, 2000 at 15:41:16:

In Reply to: New comer alert!!! posted by Dan B. on August 15, 2000 at 15:20:48:

Being one of the developers of that gun (the Tominator)
along with Darrel Mazzoline, we have taken several
Turkey's with the Tominator. Before the Tominator we
were using Theoben Rapid 7's, but the gun is way too
heavy for several days of ALL DAY hunting. Thus, the
development of the Tominator which weighs in at a
mere 5 lbs with a scope.
Falcon also makes a pistol version of the same action
that is very similar looking to the T/C Contender.
They can produce about 15 ft lbs in .22 caliber with
out any real modifications, which would be plenty of
power to take a Turkey at 25/30 yds.
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Msg. 275621  Posted by M Boyle on August 15, 2000 at 15:37:36:

In Reply to: New comer alert!!! posted by Dan B. on August 15, 2000 at 15:20:48:

the turkey guns i think you are talking about is the tominator. it is around $800, its power plant is a percharged pneumatic. they need either a scuba tank, or bike style pump plus adaptor to fill them. they are filled to 2800 to 3000psi. they call them pcp guns, for short. many pcp guns can be about half the power of a 22lr.the Career is one such gun. some that are custom can reach small deer size game can hit,375ft lbs + in power
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Msg. 275620  Posted by Dan B. on August 15, 2000 at 15:36:31:

In Reply to: Re: New comer alert!!! posted by Swinson on August 15, 2000 at 15:30:24:

Thanks for booting me in the correct direction..........

Dan B.
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Msg. 275619  Posted by RGunn on August 15, 2000 at 15:36:20:

In Reply to: New comer alert!!! posted by Dan B. on August 15, 2000 at 15:20:48:

Dan, you and I have followed the same path. My story is the same as yours. Last Novemebr I returned (since youth) to airguns and am just now really starting to understand what is going on in the world of "serious" airgunnning.

You have visitied my web site if you were at the Airgun Hunter's Photo Gallery. You can see that I started out with a fairly modest air rifle (Super Sport). I am now looking to purchase my next rifle, and it is a tough decision. There are so many good, quality airarms available, it makes picking the "next" rifle a tough decision.

To answer your question about the rifles used to harvest those turkeys. Go to my web site and click on the Airguns-R-Us link found on the "links" page. There you will find all the models of the Falcon series of rifles.

Good luck, and I hope you enjoy this sport as much as I am.

Randy
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Msg. 275618  Posted by Swinson on August 15, 2000 at 15:36:11:

Just was sent some e-mails about a site, neat stuff. Not this gun inparticular but neat anyway.

Regards,
Craig

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Msg. 275617  Posted by Rick H. on August 15, 2000 at 15:30:54:

In Reply to: Re: Russ = Not quite true but close posted by James L on August 14, 2000 at 14:38:03:

I got my FID when I was 18. I added a few handguns to my safe when I was in my mid 20s. I got married and moved a few towns away, went to the police station, and changed the address on my FID. They wanted me to turn in my current one while they processed the "new" one, which I refused because I would have been without one for about 6 months while they did their processing. My secone FID had the same number, but a new address. I bought a few more handguns at that address, and moved to my present house about six years ago. Once again I filed to change my address on my FID. When it finally came through, (same number as when I was 18, BTW) and I went to pick it up, (it has a place for my thumbprint, so you have to go in person to get it for you out-of-staters) I noticed a file folder holding a copy of every Pistol Purchase Permit I ever bought a handgun with......even private sales. I asked the cop doing the printing about them (most departments have only one guy to do this and you'll do it at HIS convienience) he asked if I wanted my FID or if I wanted to ask questions. I thought they weren't supposed to retain those records beyond a certain period of time. I'm 40 now, and some of those permits are about 17 years old. Makes you stop and think a little.....
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Msg. 275616  Posted by Swinson on August 15, 2000 at 15:30:24:

In Reply to: New comer alert!!! posted by Dan B. on August 15, 2000 at 15:20:48:

Ohhh boy are you in for trouble.
The gun with the turkeys are Tominators (aptly named dontcha think?) About $1000 new plus they require SCUBA tanks or a pump.
Check out www.Beeman.com, check out the resource section here or best of all. The link below.

Regards,
Craig

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Msg. 275615  Posted by Steve T on August 15, 2000 at 15:22:38:

In Reply to: How Good is the BAIKAL IZH-61 posted by Tyler on August 15, 2000 at 13:37:55:

I am currently waiting for mine to arrive. The mount is a 3/8" dovetail, but it's only 2" long, so thta may restrict some of your choices. The barrel is smaller in diameter than most guns, so if you want a uzzle break or front laser, you may need a custom job. I have heard that some people find the front end a little too light, but others have said they like it like that. when I asked this same question about a month ago, I got the response: "Buy it. Just buy it, you won't be dissapointed."
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Msg. 275614  Posted by Dan B. on August 15, 2000 at 15:20:48:

I’ve been a shooter for a while…………….for as long as I could hold a gun really, so about 18 years. I stumbled onto this webpage and was instantly captured back to my childhood when I would shoot a box of 250 pellets in a day off of the front porch at anything that would present a shot.

Growing older I got into groundhog hunting……at longer ranges than my pellet gun was capable. Now that I’ve bagged more than my share of g-hogs, rabbits, squarriels, etc w/ larger arms I think I’d like to get back into pellet rifles and pistols…..of course one that is better than my old Daisy Powerline 880.

Now to my question……….what manufacturer constructs a moderately priced pellet rifle/pistol that is capable of harvesting rabbits and other such game?? Price??

I saw in the photo gallery that some fellas had taken turkey w/ a pellet rifle….WOW!!! Those were some awesome pieces!! How much does something like that run and where are they available? Are there pistols available that could do the same thing? Being a BIG T/C Contender fan, pistol are more my thing.

Thanks for any info provided fellas!! I’ll be visiting here quite often!!

Dan B.

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Msg. 275613  Posted by Gary on August 15, 2000 at 15:19:40:

In Reply to: Re: Anti-Gun Laws in US. Any comments or concerns???? posted by Sammy on August 13, 2000 at 13:58:17:

Voter apathy is part of our situation. Another part is the countless people who seem unable to think for themselves, research the candidates, or exercise the least bit of critical thinking. These wastes of skin just sit back and allow the media to program them. Oh, and while that's happening to adults, the schools are doing their level best to indoctrinate socialist ideals in our children. The problem is a huge one that many would prefer to ignore.

I do wish that a there was a viable third party to vote for, because we have not been well served by the Republicans (and most assuredly not by the Democrats). However, even with Clinton in office for *eight years*, no significant third party presence has been created. This leads me to think that there never *will* be a significant third option on the ballot.

So, when you say that a vote for a third party candidate is better than no vote at all, I can only partially concur. Yes, it is vital to the continued existence of our Republic that people exercise their right to vote. However, a vote for a guaranteed loser is NOT harmless. In the case of this coming election, a vote for someone other than Bush not only denies Gore a vote, it denies it to *Bush* as well. Effectively, each third-party vote pulls away one-half of a vote from one of the two major candidates.

I know that some people take issue with Bush saying that he is "...for common-sense gun control" But, considering the voting history of Dick Cheney and Bush's list of accomplishments in Texas, that "official statement" sure sounds like something to soothe the "soccer moms".

One thing is certain beyond all debate: If Gore wins, we're screwed.
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Msg. 275612  Posted by TJ on August 15, 2000 at 15:09:18:

In Reply to: Gamo Stinger posted by Zero on August 15, 2000 at 14:52:34:

Is it possible your confusing the stinger with the
Gamo CF-30 which is an underlever, look at gamo.com
According to Compasseco as of about a month ago
the stingers have not yet hit the market
TJ
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Msg. 275611  Posted by Zero on August 15, 2000 at 14:52:34:

Does anyone have any insights on the Gamo Stinger? Is it any good? Also, on Gamo's website it is displayed as an underlever, and on Compasseco it is a breakbarrel. What gives, does it come in both versions?

-Zero
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Msg. 275610  Posted by Gary on August 15, 2000 at 14:50:45:

In Reply to: A Christmas Story (the movie)........ posted by Troy on August 13, 2000 at 17:46:31:

Chevy Chase, cheap Marksman air pistol, John Candy as the WallyWorld park guard.

"You could get a nasty infection..." :-)

BTW, if you like "A Christmas Story", you should buy the book that it was based upon: "In God We Trust, All Others Pay Cash" by Jean Shepard (sp?).
That movie comes from ONE CHAPTER, and the other chapters are equally entertaining. Especially the one about the Fourth of July and fireworks during the Depression. Priceless!
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Msg. 275608  Posted by Zero on August 15, 2000 at 14:40:08:

In Reply to: Re: gamo p23 hands down posted by jason on August 14, 2000 at 15:46:01:

Pellets are much more accurate coming from my P-23 than BBs are. However, the 3 inch barrel on the cp-99 may inhibit accuracy a bit. For maximum accuracy, you'd have to load pellets one at a time into the P-23. I'd still go with the P-23, though.

As for range, I can hit stuff with BBs about 20m away, though it does very little damage to the target. Pellets go a little farther, though I've never tried to measure those.

-Zero the Inestimable
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Msg. 275607  Posted by Chavez on August 15, 2000 at 14:37:56:

In Reply to: Little problem with my co2 pistol not holding. posted by Chavez on August 15, 2000 at 10:33:11:


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Msg. 275606  Posted by Zero on August 15, 2000 at 14:34:27:

In Reply to: Re: BB vs pellet-how likely? 100% posted by tr on August 13, 2000 at 22:36:39:

!!!
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Msg. 275605  Posted by Chavez on August 15, 2000 at 14:32:10:

In Reply to: Old Airgun posted by Paul on August 15, 2000 at 13:09:32:

Paul,
This site offers a book on Benjamin airguns, it
may be a place to start looking.

hth,
Chavez

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Msg. 275604  Posted by Zero on August 15, 2000 at 14:31:58:

In Reply to: Kids and airguns lately posted by RBest on August 14, 2000 at 00:34:40:

As for the stereotype of dad saying yes, and mom saying you'll shoot your eye out, I believe it has to do with the parent(s) upbringing.

Dad, no doubt, had a Daisy pump-up or something of the like as a kid. Usually, he has no objection with you getting a pellet gun.
Mom, on the other hand, was raised with the narrow-minded ideals of the past. Regardless of how times change, deep down the idea of guns, weapons, and hunting is foreign. She wasn't allowed to experience such things as a child, and as such she can't really pass judgement. But she still says no, unfortunately...

Of course, this is a COMPLETE stereotype, but it's my theory nonetheless.

-Zero the Inestimable
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Msg. 275603  Posted by Steve Forbes on August 15, 2000 at 14:30:33:

In Reply to: Re: Thanks to all. posted by Swinson on August 15, 2000 at 14:06:58:

Thanks Craig, Where you been? Havn't seen you on the
Straight Shooters forum in ages.

take care

Happy Shooting

Steve
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Msg. 275602  Posted by Steve B. on August 15, 2000 at 14:27:23:

In Reply to: Leaving the gun pumped posted by john from NY on August 15, 2000 at 12:14:47:

John: I'm using old Crosmans, but I leave two pumps in the 140's and they hold the air until I use the gun again. They work perfectly when I do use them again. I do know that if I forget to store with the pumps, it takes quite a bit of fooling around until the guns start holding again and I can shoot.

Your milage may vary with the new guns.

HTH - Steve B.
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Msg. 275601  Posted by Steve B. on August 15, 2000 at 14:20:22:

In Reply to: How Good is the BAIKAL IZH-61 posted by Tyler on August 15, 2000 at 13:37:55:

Tyler: Ditto on what joe said. I've got a Bushnell 4-12 Banner scope on mine. It's an overkill but I had it laying around. The gun is real steel except for the stocks as already noted. I'm 6'2" and I can adust the pull to fit me. The dovetails on the gun can accomodate other rear sights if you want something fancier. The sights that come with the gun will work just fine - they just take a bit of fooling with. The gun shoots cheap pellets well (Cr copperheads or Premeirs, RWS Hobby's or Meisterklugens shoot best in mine).

I don't have the Marksman so I can't say how it stacks up against the 61. I've had no problems with the gun in the year and a half that I've had it. I did have to tear it down to clean/relube. My personal best has been 3/8" groups at 10 yards though others report much better. With the scope I have no problem dusting cans at 46 yards - the pellet just takes a while to get there. As noted there are at least three great web sites deal with maintainance and service. You will find nothing on the Marksman.

HTH - Steve B.
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Msg. 275600  Posted by Zero on August 15, 2000 at 14:16:26:

In Reply to: Re: Airgun Ethics posted by Swinson on August 14, 2000 at 22:17:16:

There's an old saying:

"Of the money, for the money, and by the money."

-Zero the Inestimable
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Msg. 275599  Posted by Dan Schballza on August 15, 2000 at 14:16:04:

Are they worth the price, can anyone tell me anything about them. THanks
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Msg. 275598  Posted by Zero on August 15, 2000 at 14:13:15:

In Reply to: What to do with spent pellets? posted by Dan D on August 14, 2000 at 16:56:23:

There are places like hardware stores and fishing suppy places that buy scrap lead. There's a place near me that buys for .10 an ounce.

-Zero the Inestimable
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Msg. 275597  Posted by Zero on August 15, 2000 at 14:09:49:

In Reply to: Pumpkin chuckers. posted by BSJ on August 14, 2000 at 21:11:17:

Yes, well the gas powered cannons were taking the challenge out of the competition. I liked the older catapults and such better. Though it was cool in... '94 was it?... that someone first built a giant air cannon. As I recall, he landed a pumpkin in the parking lot.

-Zero the Inestimable
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Msg. 275596  Posted by Zero on August 15, 2000 at 14:07:02:

In Reply to: Full Auto posted by David Bruce on August 14, 2000 at 23:20:21:

I suppose one could build such a device using a paintball Co2 tank, or maybe an air compressor. You'd need a moving seal to keep the air from blowing out the magazine/shot resivoir, and some sort of gas or electric powered mechanism to toggle it.

Well, I'd better shut up before I get this thread deleted... I have a bit of a knack for that, you know.

-Zero the Inestimable
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Msg. 275595  Posted by Swinson on August 15, 2000 at 14:06:58:

In Reply to: Thanks to all. posted by Steve Forbes on August 15, 2000 at 13:49:07:

It's a neat page that combines a common enemy with some really good info. Hat's off to you on such a good page!

Regards,
Craig
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Msg. 275594  Posted by Swinson on August 15, 2000 at 14:05:49:

In Reply to: Re: Swinson-I thought you left? posted by Lou Diamond on August 15, 2000 at 13:51:50:

Yeah...I charged you a flat rate of $5 even though the shipping cost was more like $30. Let me know how you like it. It was getting about 400 FPE with 154 gr 54 caliber slugs. Any problems with it just let me know...I really love that gun and hated selling it.

Regards,
Craig
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Msg. 275593  Posted by Zero on August 15, 2000 at 13:59:17:

In Reply to: Re: What about airgun spear fishing?? posted by Tom Gaylord on August 15, 2000 at 09:41:16:

And in reply to Icon, you're idea works pretty good.

-Zero the Inestimable
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Msg. 275592  Posted by Gary on August 15, 2000 at 13:54:27:

In Reply to: Leaving the gun pumped posted by john from NY on August 15, 2000 at 12:14:47:

How about single pumgers like the P3 should they be left pumped?

Gary
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Msg. 275591  Posted by Zero on August 15, 2000 at 13:53:55:

In Reply to: Leaving the gun pumped posted by john from NY on August 15, 2000 at 12:14:47:

Note that one should NOT, however, leave a spring piston gun cocked/pumped.

-Zero the Inestimable (and somewhat redundant)
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Msg. 275590  Posted by Lou Diamond on August 15, 2000 at 13:51:50:

In Reply to: Re: Swinson-I thought you left? posted by Swinson on August 15, 2000 at 13:21:52:

Hey Swinson,
You send my gun out yet?
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Msg. 275589  Posted by Steve Forbes on August 15, 2000 at 13:49:07:

I would just like to say thanks. My web page had over
1000 hits in the first week and over 30% of those
hits came from the good people here at the AGLF.

I am glad everyone has enjoyed the page so much, keep
those emails and pictures comming. Look for more
updates to the page in the near future.

Thanks

Steve

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Msg. 275588  Posted by KEN. on August 15, 2000 at 13:47:49:

In Reply to: Re: Leaving the gun pumped posted by Swinson on August 15, 2000 at 13:06:33:

Hello all.........1 or 2 pumps keeps the v/v closed and dirt and dust out.
Many Thanks KEN.
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Msg. 275587  Posted by Joe Matusic, MD on August 15, 2000 at 13:47:39:

In Reply to: How Good is the BAIKAL IZH-61 posted by Tyler on August 15, 2000 at 13:37:55:

The IZH-61 was meant as a 10m trainer. It has a match type trigger, adjustable sotck (for length of pull), has a 5 shot mag (2 come with it, can get more), come with a globe front wite with a few inserts (I use the circle), a slot rear site insert and a peep rear site insert. The slot / peep is crude but effect at the effect range of this rifle. The is a dovetail at eh center of the barrel and behind where the clip goes it. The pictures usually show the rear site midway down the barrel. You will get a longer site radius by moving it to the back. Cocking is very easy. Power is only about 400-450 fps (meant as a 10m trainer not a powerhouse). There is some light recoil that disrupts the site picture (not a recoiless wonder). You will either love or hate the looks (high tech assault rifle styling). The stock length obviously was meant for shorter or younger individuals, even at full length its short. Now that's short compared with a regular air rifle its about right for the 10m style guns. Some have found sand in the gun unpon arrival (used to weigh down the stock). There is a cleaning rod supplied DON'T USE. There is some heavy grease its covered with for shipping that you will have to remove. It comes with spare seal and spring. The manual is translated russian acceptable but skimpy. It has a nice parts diagram to my memory. its one of those cult guns you will be able to find a lot for and info on in the future. The rear sight can accept an airgun style mount (its narrower than usual). I had a Beeman ss3 mounted on it for a while. I put the peep site back on. Its much more accurate than any gun close to its price except for the daisy 853 and crosman 2100 (from what I hear)

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Msg. 275586  Posted by matt sudol on August 15, 2000 at 13:45:45:

Saxby-Palmer Ensign that is the gun does anyone know anything about it? What about the price , click the link to read about it.

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Msg. 275585  Posted by Tyler on August 15, 2000 at 13:37:55:

Thanks to everyone for the input. Those marksman rifles are availible at my local Canadian Tire Store. But I went to the Golden Troller website and that Baikal IZH-61 looks neat. I would just like to know how good these things really are before i fork out $85 in U.S. funds.Thats $125.99 canadian + .15% tax and a couple bucks shipping and handling the Marksman would cost around $90 Canadian. And I would also like to know what features it has (can I mount a scope), the website description was only one sentence. So how good do these air rifles perform?
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Msg. 275584  Posted by Swinson on August 15, 2000 at 13:21:52:

In Reply to: Re: Swinson-I thought you left? posted by Durk on August 15, 2000 at 13:18:37:

Will do I'm looking up your number as we speak. Just click on the name to e-mail me! The power seems a little low.

Regards,
Craig
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Msg. 275583  Posted by Durk on August 15, 2000 at 13:18:37:

In Reply to: Re: Swinson-I thought you left? posted by Swinson on August 15, 2000 at 13:13:28:

I lost your email. Your Falctor .380 PCP is ready.
How about 700 ft. lbs at 2900 psi and thats the average with 30 shot bursts-rapid fire. Contact me/Durk
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Msg. 275582  Posted by Swinson on August 15, 2000 at 13:13:28:

In Reply to: Swinson-I thought you left? posted by Durk Metterion on August 15, 2000 at 13:11:07:

Just e-mail me I would love to see it!

Regards,
Craig

PS I have a great e-mail for you, you'll love it!
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Msg. 275581  Posted by Durk Metterion on August 15, 2000 at 13:11:07:

Glad to see you back.

I have your gun ready
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Msg. 275580  Posted by Paul on August 15, 2000 at 13:09:32:


I recently received an old Benjamin Franklin air rifle. I have not noticed any model or serial numbers on it. It does still work and shoot. I would like to know more about this airgun. Can someone direct me to a site or inform me about ths airgun?
Thanks
Paul
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Msg. 275579  Posted by Swinson on August 15, 2000 at 13:06:33:

In Reply to: Leaving the gun pumped posted by john from NY on August 15, 2000 at 12:14:47:

Oressure keeps the seals in the right place, or so I've been told. I think it's good for most rifles. (even PCP's can live longer and happier lives with a little pressure in the tank)

Regards,
Craig
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Msg. 275578  Posted by Swinson on August 15, 2000 at 13:04:46:

In Reply to: Fx2000 Muzzle Energies - Help plz posted by Omer on August 15, 2000 at 12:44:45:

NO! The FX 2000 would be lucky to do 40 FPE. A career 707 in .22 would be on full power+ to get 90 FPE.

Regards,
Craig
PS the eley bullet is about 30.6 gr.
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Msg. 275577  Posted by John Studt on August 15, 2000 at 12:52:20:

In Reply to: Re: Anschutz 250 posted by Driskill on August 14, 2000 at 18:06:07:

Thanks for all the information. I realy appreciate your taking the time.

John Studt
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Msg. 275576  Posted by Omer on August 15, 2000 at 12:44:45:

Hi,

I m about to buy tht humble fx2000. but ne way

I need to know tht is it possible to pump out about 80 or 90 ft/lb of muzzle energy from the eley magnum .28 grain bullet (.22 Cal.)?

Since u know tht the carrer 9mm can pump a gr8 load of energy about 150 ft/lb more than my .22 LR rifle......... amazing isnt?

And plz tell me some online stores which sells chronographs.........


Thanks 4 ur replies

Bye,
Omer
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" ... into the country? "


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Msg. 275575  Posted by vZc® on August 15, 2000 at 12:38:59:

In Reply to: So how did you the gun into the country? posted by Douglas on August 15, 2000 at 11:23:32:

I did NOT realize that Roland is posting from South America.

TELCEL CELULAR C.A (NETBLK-TELCEL-NET)
Avenida Francisco de Miranda
Torre El Parque Piso 16 Los Palos Grandes,
Caracas, Venezuela 1062.
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Msg. 275574  Posted by JS on August 15, 2000 at 12:36:19:

In Reply to: Anyone ever converted a Crosman 357 to .20 or .22 caliber? posted by scot on August 14, 2000 at 17:19:18:

There is one listed on Brad's site for sale. A Crosman 357 that has been rebarreled for .22 and includes two altered cylinders.
Yes, a CO2 pistol should be more efficient in .22 caliber I believe. .177 caliber wastes a lot of gas. The 3576GT puts out about 3 fpe at the muzzle, while it's .22 counterpart (38T) puts out around 4 fpe. So the 38T only pushes a .22 pellet at 360 fps, but it does so with a pellet that weighs 14.3 grains....better energy transfer.
Just shoot a 1740 and 2240 side by side for comparison to see this firsthand.

No need to modify, Crosman has already provided us with a better revolver than the 357...and in .22 caliber. Get a Crosman 38T in .22!
I had thought about converting a 3576GT to .22, then got both the 38T and 38C. These are much nicer guns imho. Solid feeling....weight is much better, action is smooth, grips fill the hand nicely. and you can find them in both .22 and .177 calibers.
My vintage 38T is much more accurate for me to shoot than my modern 3576GT. No contest. It's mostly due to the weight and feel.
But it also packs a lot more punch than the 3576GT...yet still puts the pellet in place accurately.

hth, Jack


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Msg. 275573  Posted by john from NY on August 15, 2000 at 12:14:47:

I have a 2 year old Crosman 2100W that I just started shooting again a couple of months ago. should I leave the gun pumped when I put it away? I know people do this with benjamins and sheridans, I was wondering if it applied to all pump-ups.

thanks-
john
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Msg. 275572  Posted by john from NY on August 15, 2000 at 12:09:55:

In Reply to: Good gun for under $60 posted by Steve on August 14, 2000 at 21:05:49:

The P-23 would probably be better quality. That's what I would get.
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Msg. 275571  Posted by BSJ on August 15, 2000 at 12:08:52:

In Reply to: Re: Tell ya what Swinson, posted by Swinson on August 15, 2000 at 10:29:04:

Got my BSA 10x50 for $399.
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Msg. 275570  Posted by Gary on August 15, 2000 at 12:08:22:

In Reply to: WHAT SHOULD I DO? posted by LUCKIE7 on August 15, 2000 at 11:10:27:

First thing I would do is to clean the bore. Get one of those plastic "string type" flexable things that you put through the breech and pull out the muzzel. Get some Pelgun oil. Everytime out put a drop on the three hing places on the pump handle. DO NOT PUT OIL IN THE AIR HOLE!!!!! You may want to put only one drop on the back of the piston. Less is more when it come to the piston. When you store the rifle put one or two pumps in it. It will help the seals. Other than that get the Williams and have at it. Great little rifle. I keep mine in the truck. When I visit a couple of my friends their wives always ask me to take some squirrel meat home. ;-} I only do it during season. This ensures I will always be able to help them out.;-}

HTH

Gary
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Msg. 275569  Posted by BSJ on August 15, 2000 at 12:05:24:

In Reply to: WHAT SHOULD I DO? posted by LUCKIE7 on August 15, 2000 at 11:10:27:

Read the owners manual. Do what it says.

Get some secret sauce from Mac-1 for lubing pivot points.
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Msg. 275568  Posted by john from NY on August 15, 2000 at 12:00:58:

In Reply to: Are Diablos CPs posted by Sid E on August 15, 2000 at 02:51:17:

CPs are probably more tightly controlled quality wise at the factory. The Ben-Sher Diabolos are pretty accurate, though.

-john
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Msg. 275567  Posted by CJ on August 15, 2000 at 11:59:18:

In Reply to: Re: QB78 tune and what I do. posted by CJ on August 15, 2000 at 11:21:45:

(Shipping cost is what ever the cheapest is from you and just double it for me to send it back.)

I meant the shipping cost is what ever you paid, you need to send that amount not double that amount.

Sorry
CJ
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Msg. 275566  Posted by john from NY on August 15, 2000 at 11:53:49:

In Reply to: WHAT SHOULD I DO? posted by LUCKIE7 on August 15, 2000 at 11:10:27:

Williams peep sight would be good.
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Msg. 275565  Posted by Swinson on August 15, 2000 at 11:34:41:

In Reply to: Carbine or long? posted by Andrew on August 14, 2000 at 22:43:34:

I love the carbine and don't really like the rifle. That six inches makes a big difference in it's handiness. Accuracy...never had a complaint with either and the "added accuracy" of the rifle is lost on my as I don't shoot as far as most.
Shots per fill...mine is a hunting gun and rarely do I ever get more than say 30 shots during a hunt anyway...50 is plenty for me and then some.

Regards,
Craig
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Msg. 275564  Posted by M Boyle on August 15, 2000 at 11:33:26:

In Reply to: Re: Are Diablos CPs posted by Sid E. on August 15, 2000 at 10:58:16:

ok you confused me.find what?.do you want to know were to get crosman premiers or the fieldtarget trophy smooths..you can find H&N FTTS'at spyramyd arms\stone. in resources section of the mean page and CPs in the best deals link the FTTS is sold buy Beeman as well as FTS for more money
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Msg. 275563  Posted by Swinson on August 15, 2000 at 11:31:40:

In Reply to: Re: Are you the same craig??? posted by JR99 on August 14, 2000 at 23:26:20:

It was a play on the fact that the guy "sells" them but can't spell the name right(actually Stalker and Stocker are pretty far apart for a typo). But then again these days anybody can sell anything if they want to, I guess. Would sort of be like selling Filcone airguns or Toebin...yeah yeah Stocker, er umm Stalker it's all the same...we can import them just as well as you can but for more money!

I mean past the fact that I got a REALLY bad R-11 from the guy most of the stuff I've bought from him has been pretty good.

Regards,
Craig
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Tiger Ten = BSA Super TEN?


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Msg. 275562  Posted by Douglas on August 15, 2000 at 11:26:00:

In Reply to: Where can you buy Tiger Ten Air Rifles In The U.S.A.? posted by Jason on August 14, 2000 at 13:05:04:

Same internals with some inside work and different furniture, so I read.
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Msg. 275561  Posted by Douglas on August 15, 2000 at 11:23:32:

In Reply to: Re: Caliber? posted by Roland Martens on August 15, 2000 at 01:10:06:

I understand airguns are treated as firearms. Did you buy local?
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Msg. 275560  Posted by CJ on August 15, 2000 at 11:21:45:

In Reply to: Re: QB78 tune and what I do. posted by Tom on August 15, 2000 at 10:18:46:

I live in BrokenArrow Okla. 74014, Last gun I did was A three-day turn around, The man is from Tennessee he called me last night and said he like the gun and will give me an update with more info later. Shipping cost is what ever the cheapest is from you and just double it for me to send it back. I’ve found UPS ground is about the cheapest. I make no money on the shipping stuff. It just gets it here . My e-mail is cjpitts@rapfire.net or you can just click on the blue CJ in the upper area in this post. E-mail me and I’ll tell you where, how to send it and give you some tips on how to save a couple of bucks in shipping.

Thanks
CJ

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Msg. 275559  Posted by CharlesC on August 15, 2000 at 11:14:59:

In Reply to: Re: Are Diablos CPs posted by M Boyle on August 15, 2000 at 05:41:27:

B/S Diablos are not as accurate in my Sheridan CB as the current version of B/S Cylindrical. Cylindricals are a buck cheaper at my local ammo store. They've gotten good reviews from Mac1 and others. Try them. I've also had good results with 20 caliber Crosman Doamed pellets - a third version of the diablo style pellet from Crosman Corp. They may be an unsorted version of the CP.
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Msg. 275558  Posted by Swinson on August 15, 2000 at 11:13:29:

In Reply to: Re: Airgun Ethics posted by M Boyle on August 15, 2000 at 06:02:44:

The way I figure it, if Chasm has a problem I would like to know because he seems like a level headed guy. I also figure there may be ways that we can help.
A couple examples:
That guy that had the problem with EAA and his IZH. That was compelling stuff.
There were several people that had a problem with a dealer who was going out of business, I was glad I heard about it because I was gonna buy several rifles from him and ended up saving some time and aggrevation. (Some guys got stiffed in upwards of $5000, there was a pump that went south, used guns being sold as new)
If nothing else the Internet allows us to be each others advocates, now how you present your information and how you react to is what makes that information more or less valueable to others.
I will say as of late I've learned of a dealer that a couple people have worked very hard to help, being sort of jerky about a KNOWN problem with one of their guns. Now instead of taking it up with the manufacturer, they have decided to fix the squeekiest weels first and hope others don't notice or don't complain.
All very compelling stuff.

Regards,
Craig
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Apart from the apparent blasphemy ;-)


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Msg. 275557  Posted by Peter Huppertz on August 15, 2000 at 11:10:57:

In Reply to: Re: If the Career is god... posted by Art on August 14, 2000 at 19:32:10:

you may have things in the wrong order ;-) Don't you think calling the Nitro Express the career's son would be way beyond pushing it? ;-p

cheers,
peter



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Msg. 275556  Posted by LUCKIE7 on August 15, 2000 at 11:10:27:

AFTER TAKING ADVICE FROM SEVERAL OF YOU, I DECIDED TO PURCHASE A SHERIDAN C9 MODLE RIFLE. I PLAN TO USE THIS RIFLE FOR PEST CONTROL AND SOME SMALL GAME HUNTING. MY QUESTION IS, DO I NEED TO DO ANYTHING TO THE GUN OUT OF THE BOX TO GUARANTEE MAXIMUM PERFORMANCE. THANKS FOR ALL OF YOUR HELP!!!
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Msg. 275555  Posted by Peter Huppertz on August 15, 2000 at 11:03:52:

In Reply to: First picture seems best for me. posted by Joe Matusic, MD on August 14, 2000 at 19:32:08:

... with our without the use of the rest you're takling about, you have the advantage of being able to get your legs wider apart, which leaves more space for your lower body.
The stock extension you're talking about may help a lot.

Let us know how it works for you!

peter
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Msg. 275554  Posted by Sid E. on August 15, 2000 at 10:58:16:

In Reply to: Re: Are Diablos CPs posted by M Boyle on August 15, 2000 at 05:41:27:

Are they available on the net?If ye,what's the URL?I did a word search and din't find the.
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Msg. 275553  Posted by Chris on August 15, 2000 at 10:37:06:

I called the number on his WEB site and the change number recording came on. (714)376-6981.
I'm going to have him install a Gas Ram and do the trigger on my Vulcan. From what I hear (read) it should take care of my complaint. We shall see.
Thanks Russ and Mark

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Msg. 275552  Posted by Chavez on August 15, 2000 at 10:33:11:

I have a crosman 150 that I purchased resealed.
It went thru the first 3 pwerlets flawlessly, but
yesterday after emptying a powerlet and inseting
a new one, then firing; all the co2 blew out the
tube cap assembly.
It blew out thru the screw not the threading.
I tried another powerlet three hours later and on
the first shot it did it again blowing out all the
co2.
My thoughts are that the o-ring in the tube cap
assembly may be too saturated with co2 and it
was not sealing?
Any thoughts on what's happening?

Thanks for your time and input!
Chavez


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Msg. 275551  Posted by Swinson on August 15, 2000 at 10:29:04:

In Reply to: Tell ya what Swinson, posted by TimH on August 14, 2000 at 22:51:43:

Let's see there is the Simmons 8-32 for $200, there is the B&L 8-32 (bushnell elite 4200) for about $400, You can buy a burris 8-32 for anywhere from $350 to $450. As for BSA there seem to be A LOT of excellent FT shooters that want them (not so much in a 32x but some use the 36x and a lot use the 10-50x60)$500. You can buy a Hakko...but like I said, the sad part about it is that there isn't a whole lot of choice in the $200 range 8-32's and the Swift would have been a really nice addition.
I would say next time look harder at what's out there. But maybe in the near future if Marty straightens these guys out you won't have to.
Again it seems the holy grail would be to bring an 8-32 in at somewhere near $200 (a lot of peoples price point) as then the field of shooters would really open up. I would buy one, just to have it. And I hope you find a scope that is good for you, and maybe it might be a Swift.

Regards,
Craig
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Msg. 275550  Posted by Keith Morris on August 15, 2000 at 10:28:52:

In Reply to: BSA Superstar posted by Ron on August 15, 2000 at 01:52:02:

Hi Ron,

The Super Star is a great gun and good value. Do, however visit
the PSI (Precision Sales Inc) website and you will find this gun at a deep discount.

I believe it is possible to get one for 289.00. I own one and find the
fit and finish to be top notch. I really like this gun.

Keith
Seattle
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Re: Is the Crosman 782B rifle accurate?


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Msg. 275549  Posted by Chris on August 15, 2000 at 10:22:26:

In Reply to: Is the Crosman 782B rifle accurate? posted by Chris on August 13, 2000 at 14:59:39:

I would think that I would have better luck with something like a Hercules B4-2. Right?
Chris
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Msg. 275548  Posted by MomT on August 15, 2000 at 10:21:11:

In Reply to: crosman 2250 posted by Eli Gratz on August 14, 2000 at 23:27:55:

On those, you had to swing the breech open, insert a pellet into the little hole and push it all the way in with the tip of your fingernail and then close the breech. Next you cocked the gun by pulling back the rear cocking knob to either the low or high power position. Then the gun is ready to fire.

The new 2250 and it's siblings (2240 and 2260) are much simpler in that the gun is cocked as the bolt is opened to load the next round. Then just drop in a pellet, slide the bolt forward and the gun is ready to go. Also, there is only one power level.

Good shooting

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Msg. 275546  Posted by Tom on August 15, 2000 at 10:18:46:

In Reply to: QB78 tune and what I do. posted by CJ on August 15, 2000 at 08:31:15:

Can you send me more information about shipping cost, where you live and what is your E-mail. Iam interested in modification of my QB78 in .177 cal. What is a time frame for your work? I live in California, Santa Barbara. E-mail:marevaintl@home.com. Tanks for info. Tom
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Msg. 275545  Posted by Mom T on August 15, 2000 at 10:12:03:

In Reply to: Any Recomendations for a good Rifle? ANY IDEAS??? posted by Tlyer on August 15, 2000 at 03:59:37:

The Marksman rifles like the biathalon trainer and it's replacement are less than 500fps. They have a lot of plastic but are accurate and inexpensive. The discontinued biathlon trainer is the nicest since it doesn't have the cheesy fire sights. Places like Mac-1 still have new ones for around $50.
Daisy has the 853C which is costlier but seems to be a good quality single pump pneumatic.

Good luck
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Msg. 275544  Posted by Ron Y. on August 15, 2000 at 10:10:13:

In Reply to: Any Recomendations for a good Rifle? ANY IDEAS??? posted by Tlyer on August 15, 2000 at 03:59:37:

Chris and Docwell are right. IZH 61 is the ticket.
It'll do all you've asked for and is versatile beyond your wildest dreams. One small hole at 10M and dime size at 20 and its still not fully broke in or tuned.
Go to; http:/www.goldentoller.com
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Msg. 275543  Posted by TMM on August 15, 2000 at 09:58:18:

In Reply to: Momentum... posted by scot on August 14, 2000 at 17:30:39:

It was on one of the classified or auction sites a few days ago. Can't remember which one. It was most likely Brad Troyers site, Gunsamerica, or auction arms.



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Msg. 275541  Posted by pilkguns on August 15, 2000 at 09:50:12:

In Reply to: Tom, Two questions on Crosman 2000 posted by Charlie on August 15, 2000 at 05:23:55:

The rail itself will accept Anschutz accessories, BUT because of it not being open to the end of the stock, certain items because of their length, will not drop into the present hole. The easy thing to do is turn the rail around as it is presently in the gun, (Daisy is supposed to be making this change themsleves, because it is bacwards) and then remove about a half inch strip of wood, so that you can gain access to the rail from the end of the gun in the traditional means. The trigger is adjustable to 3lbs, so that is nor worry, but didn;t the Boy Scouts get with the 3P program, so they should be on the 1 1/2 poubd rule? I don't have my rule book handy, so I can't chek BSA's participation

Also, I suppose I should add here that that Pilkington Competition is the only source other thand Daisy authorized to sell to junior clubs at the club prices. We are also a warranty and repair station for Daisy's competition guns. We should have the Daisy stuff up on our website today or tomorrow

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Msg. 275540  Posted by Gary on August 15, 2000 at 09:48:36:

In Reply to: Re: SuperStar .22 for FT posted by RBest on August 15, 2000 at 00:53:31:

N/T
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Msg. 275539  Posted by M Boyle on August 15, 2000 at 09:44:29:

In Reply to: Re: Tell ya what Swinson, posted by M Boyle on August 15, 2000 at 06:12:40:

D&R has the 8x32 40mm Elite 4200 for under $400 if you get the cataloge from Bushnell\B&L. its in there
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Re: What about airgun spear fishing??


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Msg. 275538  Posted by Tom Gaylord on August 15, 2000 at 09:41:16:

In Reply to: What about airgun spear fishing?? posted by icon on August 15, 2000 at 02:25:11:

Icon,

We remove postings after they have been up a certain length of time with little or no activity. That may be why yours disappeared. I also removed a thread (many related postings) yeasterday because it wasn't going in a good direction. There were unsafe things being posted, and we don't allow that on this forum.

When a long and current thread gets removed, often several good constructive postings go with all the bad stuff. Often people are trying to tell the original poster or someone else in the thread why they shouldn't do what they have written. I feel it's best to just clear the boards in those cases, otherwise you have answers for which there are no questions. We have tried it both ways over the years and complete removal works best.

Regarding your question about spear fishing with airguns, they do quite a bit of it in the Phillipines. I have read articles from a Phillipine airgun magazine describing how to make harpoons and barbed points and just how to stalk the fish. They go for shots near the surface.

We probably don't do as much of it here in the States because there are fewer subsistance hunter/fishers here. I'm pretty sure some people do fish with harpoons in the U.S. - it's just not written up.

In the southeast, there are alligator gar fish that would present a real challenge to the spearfishing airgunner. You would want to use a gun like the Fire 201 or Quachenbush's Brigand for that. The bowfishers who hunt gar use 40-pound test line, and I understand the fish get pretty big. They have sharp teeth and an aggressive personality, too, so this wouldn't be a sport for the faint-hearted!

I hope this answer helps you,

Tom Gaylord
The Airgun Letter
staff@airgunletter.net
http://www.airgunletter.net
http://www.airgunletter.com

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Msg. 275537  Posted by Art on August 15, 2000 at 09:40:07:

In Reply to: Re: The Starling...Portrait Of A Killer posted by Steve Forbes on August 13, 2000 at 03:27:23:

I saw that one when it was on your web page, it's the you I wanted.
Thanks,Art
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Msg. 275536  Posted by M Boyle on August 15, 2000 at 09:38:56:

In Reply to: Re: Which pellets posted by M Boyle on August 15, 2000 at 09:37:45:

more trigger control
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Re: Which pellets


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Msg. 275535  Posted by M Boyle on August 15, 2000 at 09:37:45:

In Reply to: Re: Which pellets posted by jason on August 14, 2000 at 23:12:49:

singel as you can control the trigger better..in most cases
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Msg. 275534  Posted by M Boyle on August 15, 2000 at 09:36:37:

In Reply to: Which pellets posted by Jason on August 14, 2000 at 23:00:33:

jason id get a sample kit of pellets to try from airgunsexpress or straightshooter ..guns differ in what they like even amung models
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Re: Need help remembering a site.


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Msg. 275533  Posted by M Boyle on August 15, 2000 at 09:33:52:

In Reply to: Need help remembering a site. posted by JonF. on August 15, 2000 at 00:25:12:

cain custom stocks..look for gary cain in the resource section..i forget if wade is the importer or not
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Re: Comparatively, you are both lucky.....


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Msg. 275532  Posted by Mike Pearson on August 15, 2000 at 09:27:30:

In Reply to: Re: Comparatively, you are both lucky..... posted by RBest on August 14, 2000 at 23:26:28:


In my book, you are the salt of the earth Russ! --- Mike
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Re: Moonrise Over Texas


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Msg. 275531  Posted by Mike Pearson on August 15, 2000 at 09:25:02:

In Reply to: Re: Moonrise Over Texas posted by chasm on August 14, 2000 at 23:36:41:


Charles,as you know, Texas has an abundance of mighty fine vixen! I know because I married one! ---- Mr.P

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Re: Who sells this mini target thrower?


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Msg. 275530  Posted by Wallace Berry on August 15, 2000 at 09:05:55:

In Reply to: Re: Who sells this mini target thrower? posted by Art on August 14, 2000 at 19:15:06:

Thanks for the response and the url. I was able to go right to it. I had searched the Cabelas and Orvis sites before but couldn't remember the name of the product and didn't find a match. Now, to get that Crosman 1100 and a bulk fill setup...
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Msg. 275529  Posted by Marty Silver Streak on August 15, 2000 at 08:33:29:

In Reply to: The Swift 8-32x-50mm scope is here at Silver Streak..... posted by Marty Silver Streak on August 14, 2000 at 14:01:26:

Thanks guys,

I am sending per Bruce Mercer's request all of the information to get these fixed up correctly.

I am also going to request that he ask the factory to do it ASAP and if possible air ship the corrected scopes, to help on the time delay, that probably won't happen but I am going to try.

I will be including a very detailed letter along with the returned scopes, listing everything that needs to get done to make them "on the money".

Thanks for all of your input, and patience. Will do my best to get it done.

Marty
SSSports

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Msg. 275528  Posted by CJ on August 15, 2000 at 08:31:15:

Let me give some back ground on me I've been a Toolmaker for 10yrs all my work is done on machinery. I have tuned my gun by trial and error and with consulting a mechanical engineer on how to increase flow.I have had consistent results with the other guns I've tuned. All guns have the original parts except for the bolt probe. All the people's guns that I have tuned or have shot my gun have been impressed. This is what I do to them. Match and increase the Barrel port on a mill,Part off the bolt and put a probe on, cut the O-ring groove wider and deeper for the bolt ,Profile the valve for more flow, increase the hammer spring, And put extra set screw in the breech to hold the barrel. With this set up you can hit 800fps with RWS GECO'S and 750-770fps with CPL's and with the extra set screw the plastic barrel clamp now works .
Any takers can contact me at my E-mail. $40 and you pay the shipping.
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Msg. 275527  Posted by Marty Silver Streak on August 15, 2000 at 08:15:01:

In Reply to: Re: The Swift 8-32x-50mm scope is here at Silver Streak..... posted by Anthony on August 14, 2000 at 23:15:13:

Anthony,

Yes that is the way it works the threads move the objective lens farther out (longer) I was wondering about the optical length and if bringing it down to 10 yards would be past it's focusing capability. Bruce Mercer at Swift wanted me to give him all the info I could and I will be passing your post along to him if you don't mind. I am hoping that if they cannot just make it adjust to 10 yds. with more travel, they may be able to change the lens shape to accomplish this. I believe the threads are lathe cut, not cast. And the lens is backed by a large spring to move it forward.

Thanks Anthony,
Marty
SSSports

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Msg. 275526  Posted by docwells on August 15, 2000 at 07:52:35:

In Reply to: Any Recomendations for a good Rifle? ANY IDEAS??? posted by Tlyer on August 15, 2000 at 03:59:37:

I would think that the IZH 61 would fit the bill also. Joe at Golden Toller does a good job of prepping the air guns for shipment through customs. Go back to the Home page of AGL and then go to the resources page. He is very helpful and will let you know if they are non FAC legal when you order if you let him know your from the "great white north." I just ordered one, so I can't tell you about the quality, but if you look way down in these posts, there is a NSCANUCK that has an airgun web page and he is pictured with an IZH 61 and he may be able to give you some insight.
HTH,
docwells

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Re: Not as good.


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Msg. 275525  Posted by Bill on August 15, 2000 at 07:42:53:

In Reply to: Not as good. posted by aaron gassman on August 14, 2000 at 22:37:31:

I have two QB78s and mine sure did not need any so called gunsmithing. These are good guns right out of the box IMHO.
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Msg. 275524  Posted by Tom on August 15, 2000 at 07:41:56:

In Reply to: b22 whats the word posted by rick on August 14, 2000 at 23:11:06:

I have both the B18 & B21 bought from FunSupply. Guns came in great shape. The B18 is much more fun for target practice or just general shooting. The B21 has a lot of power but is heavy. I have a scope on mine and it is very accurate. I may be willing to sell it if you are interested. I am moving up to a TX200.
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Msg. 275523  Posted by Roland Martens on August 15, 2000 at 07:25:04:

In Reply to: Re: crosman 2250 posted by Sammy on August 15, 2000 at 05:09:35:

At MAC-1 you can get'em even better. Take a look at them there!

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Msg. 275522  Posted by Cody Dotter on August 15, 2000 at 07:11:24:

In Reply to: Full Auto posted by David Bruce on August 14, 2000 at 23:20:21:

I've shot that gun before. They had one at KNOEBELS.
Pretty COOL.
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Msg. 275521  Posted by Mitch on August 15, 2000 at 07:08:40:

In Reply to: Any Recomendations for a good Rifle? ANY IDEAS??? posted by Tlyer on August 15, 2000 at 03:59:37:

Too bad about the A*I*R 17, the military style BB guns are quite collectible. Same goes for M-1 and Z-77 (UZI look-alike).
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Msg. 275520  Posted by M Boyle on August 15, 2000 at 07:02:02:

In Reply to: Re: more targets and a Q posted by Swinson on August 14, 2000 at 17:06:11:

love that heavy math!! :\ in the last week my comps crashed 5+ times ..i think it hates math :)
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Re: Summer in Massachusetts


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Msg. 275519  Posted by M Boyle on August 15, 2000 at 06:56:01:

In Reply to: Re: Summer in Massachusetts posted by Stocky on August 14, 2000 at 11:44:56:

the city consel tryed a semi auto weapons ban here ..yer right its not ..
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Msg. 275518  Posted by RGunn on August 15, 2000 at 06:54:28:

In Reply to: Re: FX-2000 owners, I need your opinions........ posted by K.B. on August 14, 2000 at 02:14:38:


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Msg. 275517  Posted by M Boyle on August 15, 2000 at 06:51:00:

In Reply to: The Swift 8-32x-50mm scope is here at Silver Streak..... posted by Marty Silver Streak on August 14, 2000 at 14:01:26:

Marty, i consider it a 1.0 ver of this scope..using software as the mataphor never buy a .0 ver always waite on a 0.1 or .5 ver..so the bugs..eerr unwanted features are lessoned
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Msg. 275516  Posted by wayne on August 15, 2000 at 06:35:43:

In Reply to: Yep, no mods. posted by Gary on August 14, 2000 at 21:09:58:

nt

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Msg. 275514  Posted by M Boyle on August 15, 2000 at 06:29:55:

In Reply to: Best for FT and hunting. Should I upgrade from a TX200 Mk 4 posted by GF on August 14, 2000 at 16:40:58:

GF, it doesnt sound like you need an upgrade..when the tx200 is fixed ..you seem to have two great rigs..you might think of a P70ZM FT or some other higher powered dime shooter
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Msg. 275513  Posted by M Boyle on August 15, 2000 at 06:12:40:

In Reply to: Tell ya what Swinson, posted by TimH on August 14, 2000 at 22:51:43:

TimH as the other post have said D&R has the 8x32 40mm Elite 4200 for under $400 if the get the catage from Bushnell\B&L its in there..just hard to find in ads..i bought one of the last B&L marked 36x Benchrest scopes..it focuses to 50feet and with the premierreticles 50 foot adaptor goes way under 10yrds
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Re: Airgun Ethics


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Msg. 275512  Posted by M Boyle on August 15, 2000 at 06:02:44:

In Reply to: Re: Airgun Ethics posted by Swinson on August 14, 2000 at 22:17:16:

you know? you can only control what you do. how you act or react..some times i see posts about some retailer that screwed some guy..and i think the guy was more the prob then the retailer..couldbe the person wasnt clear on what he wanted or expected. couldbe the retail didnt feel he had to bend over for the customer ..couldbe one or the other was insulted\insulting to the other..true? my true or your true..the retailer may see it one way and the custom a nother..i think JM doesnt do tunes for people cause they asked him for impossible things..if he knows more about a gun then a customer then he know what can and cant be done..i think one reason he doesnt do the tunes is he just got sick of people wanting stuff that couldnt be done
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Re: Full Auto


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Msg. 275511  Posted by M Boyle on August 15, 2000 at 05:49:23:

In Reply to: Full Auto posted by David Bruce on August 14, 2000 at 23:20:21:

David, ever see the gyromans BB minigun? its really cool..Brad had one listed on airgun ads 2 grand
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Re: whats the diff?


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Msg. 275510  Posted by M Boyle on August 15, 2000 at 05:45:26:

In Reply to: whats the diff? posted by Tyler on August 15, 2000 at 02:01:03:

Tyler, the best firearms have free floating barrels its a harmonic thang. the gun sings better when not resticted ;)restricted barrels sing like rosann Bar :) badly!
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Msg. 275509  Posted by M Boyle on August 15, 2000 at 05:41:27:

In Reply to: Are Diablos CPs posted by Sid E on August 15, 2000 at 02:51:17:

Sid the heads are smaller on the B/S Diablos. tim and Jm hate them and know when people shoot them based on the spring and seal damage..they seem to getting lower speeds out of guns compared to CPs ..it you want cheaper pellets that seem to shoot like CPs tey the H&N field target trophy smooths. pyramyd arms sells them 500 a tin $9.89 if you look at fts sold by Beeman they are the same but yuppy priced 250 a tin at $6.98 a tin
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Msg. 275508  Posted by Charlie on August 15, 2000 at 05:23:55:

In Reply to: Re: Crosman Challenger 2000 CO-2 3-position Rifle posted by Charlie on August 15, 2000 at 00:36:21:

Is the trigger pull over three pounds ( Boy Scout requirement ) ? Does accesory rail take Anschutz hand stop? TIA
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Msg. 275507  Posted by Charlie on August 15, 2000 at 05:20:31:

In Reply to: Need to get a Tau 7 repaired, please tell me where. posted by Joe Matusic, MD on August 14, 2000 at 14:43:58:

Airgun Express - Montezuma, Iowa. Talk to Leigh
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Msg. 275506  Posted by M Boyle on August 15, 2000 at 05:11:16:

In Reply to: Any Recomendations for a good Rifle? ANY IDEAS??? posted by Tlyer on August 15, 2000 at 03:59:37:

if its under 500fps you are limited to CO2 and some spanish springers i think crosman imports some spring guns with speed at around or under 500fps you might see if you can find a bulk co2 gun..most of them are under 500 fps
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Msg. 275505  Posted by Sammy on August 15, 2000 at 05:09:35:

In Reply to: Re: crosman 2250 posted by Simon Slick on August 14, 2000 at 23:55:50:

As Slick said very simple operation and I will add that I find it to be a very accurate gun and fun to shoot. A lot of gun for very little money.
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Msg. 275504  Posted by Chris Farhi on August 15, 2000 at 04:51:18:

In Reply to: Any Recomendations for a good Rifle? ANY IDEAS??? posted by Tlyer on August 15, 2000 at 03:59:37:

You might want to look at a IZH-61.
Great accuracy, and power less then 500fps (or at least I'm pretty sure of that).
It's side lever cocking, spring pistol.

Chris
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Msg. 275503  Posted by jr99 on August 15, 2000 at 04:33:20:

In Reply to: Best .177 caliber pellet for killing rats posted by s[i]lencer on August 14, 2000 at 18:09:42:


Shot placement (head shots) no matter the pellet will nail the rat and poor placement they may die but it will take awhile. a rat has a very small head
Aloha John
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Msg. 275502  Posted by Tlyer on August 15, 2000 at 03:59:37:

I am looking for a new air rifle since i got rid of my last one, for the curious it was a crosman AIR 17.....I tossed it out the window(it deserved it) i do most of my shooting with a Crosman Model 2289 Backpacker .22 cal.(I am tired of multiple pumps)Anyways I am looking for a quality .22 or .177 cal spring piston action ,not break barrel kind (i like fixed barrels)or a single pump gun with a rifled barrel(no BBs) and with a velocity under 500 fps. Anything more would be illegal in Ontario Canada, without a license (i cant get one yet..im still 17) I would use it for paper targets and soda cans and whatever else i can think of(I like the chalk idea)and it should be reasonably priced and have grooves for scope mounting(I had a hard time finding barrel clamp mounts for my 2289 Backpacker)ANY IDEAS???
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Msg. 275501  Posted by Chris Farhi on August 15, 2000 at 03:14:33:

In Reply to: Fun FT posted by Sid Edgewater on August 15, 2000 at 02:45:11:

Snails - from the garden.
They explode just like paintballs.

CF


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Msg. 275500  Posted by Chazzz on August 15, 2000 at 03:08:04:

In Reply to: Air Force Talon posted by Cody Dotter on August 14, 2000 at 17:34:55:

I just bought mine today, I love it. I looked for one used but I have a feeling that the people who have them don't want to let go. If they hated it they probably returned it. The warrenty, however, is only avail to the original owner & is non-transferable.
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Msg. 275499  Posted by Chazzz on August 15, 2000 at 03:04:33:

In Reply to: Swift 8-32x50mm posted by Albert on August 14, 2000 at 20:38:31:

Tasco makes an awesome 12-50x56 big wheel. It is about 20" long and is only avail. w/ a target dot reticle. Only issue---about $450.00---for a Tasco!?!?!? Just an idea. I really want one!!!!
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Msg. 275497  Posted by Sid E on August 15, 2000 at 02:51:17:

Do any of you know if Benjamin Diablos are really Crosman Premieres with a different brand?On the Straight Shooters comparison chart they are the exact same weight and shape.Respond please.
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Msg. 275496  Posted by Sid Edgewater on August 15, 2000 at 02:45:11:

While practicing today on some paper targets it occurred to me that I have some really fun targets right in my own backyard-tomatoes.I'm sure that by this late in the season many of you gardeners have plenty of over ripe fruits and veggies in your garden. I wanted to practice my long rang shooting,so I set up a really ripe tomato with a paper background against a large dirt pile. Even at 45yds using run of the mill Bearcubs and a Beeman S1 it exploded quite nicely. I hit it with the first shot in sitting position. For an inexpensive gun,it still shoots better than I can.Write back and let me know some of the fun things you shoot for FTs.
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Msg. 275495  Posted by Fearon Steele on August 15, 2000 at 02:33:08:

In Reply to: whats a SWEET Air PISTOL?? posted by Steve... on August 15, 2000 at 01:33:01:

I'd agree with Brian, avoid the modern double action plastic junk.

I have a Chameleon B4, a Beeman P1(HW45), a modified Daisy 717, a Webley Tempest w/combat grips and trigger shoe, an old Crosman MkII and an even older Crosman 150.

There are so many pistols to choose from that you need to be more specific about what you want. Budget, accuracy, power? These seem to be one or the other type things in an airpistol. People say they like the P3 because it incorperates a bit of all three. Are you hunting mice or cans, shooting 10M target or just want a nice quality piece?


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Msg. 275494  Posted by icon on August 15, 2000 at 02:25:11:

I posted about it but it along with many other
messages were deleted. Why???
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Msg. 275493  Posted by shark dawg on August 15, 2000 at 02:12:34:

I can't seem to find any information on this c02 pistol. Anyone who owns one post any info here.thanks
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Msg. 275492  Posted by brian wheater on August 15, 2000 at 02:07:44:

In Reply to: whats a SWEET Air PISTOL?? posted by Steve... on August 15, 2000 at 01:33:01:

For field use or small game within 20 ft, I recommend the Benjamin/Sheridan pistols in either pump-up (H series) or CO2(E series). The CO2 gun has a nice feel, but is very loud and also suffers the temp.inconsistancies of CO2. The pump up H series is more consistant, but a but longer and not as quite nice handling, but air pistol hunting requires deliberate shots, not pointing. For 10m match I recommend the IZH46, a single stroke pneumatic. For just plinking anything from KMart or Walmart will do. For combat practice I recommend a high quality Umarex replica of your service weapon.
My personnel pistols are:

Benjamin 132 pump-up-must be overcharged or modified for hunting, but my fav, also an heirloom.
Benjamin/Sheridan E22
IZH46
Umarex Beretta

I don't like modern Crosmans. My recommendation for an all around gun might be the Benjamin/Sheridan HB22. Check the Crosman website to order it.
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Msg. 275491  Posted by James Kitching on August 15, 2000 at 02:06:33:

Price reduced $10 on the B18 .177 and .22 available.

These are very nice guns, mine out performs a FWB 124 I usde to own.

Thanks, James Kitching

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Msg. 275490  Posted by Tyler on August 15, 2000 at 02:01:03:

My question is: what is the difference between a free floated barrel and a fixed one.....which is more accurate?

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Msg. 275489  Posted by Ron on August 15, 2000 at 01:52:02:

Hi All,

I recently got to handle a BSA Superstar Magnum at a shop. I was very impressed with the feel and balance of the gun, as well as with the very fine beaded sights. The owner of the shop recommended this gun very highly.

I wondered if anyone who owns one of these could comment on the performance and accuracy of this gun.

I started shooting a BSA break action rifle in the early '70s, and have shot tens of thousands of pellets through it. It is still fairly accurate, and it has similar finely beaded sights to the Superstar. I love this old gun, and still use it.


Thanks,

Ron



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Msg. 275488  Posted by Chris Farhi on August 15, 2000 at 01:41:23:

In Reply to: whats a SWEET Air PISTOL?? posted by Steve... on August 15, 2000 at 01:33:01:

Try the Beeman P3.
From what I've heard it is a very sweet pistol, and it is on my list of airguns to get next.

It's a single stroke pneumatic.
in .177 it goes just below 400fps (depending on pellet).
From what I've heard it has a great trigger.
Goes for about $130

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Msg. 275486  Posted by Chris Farhi on August 15, 2000 at 01:40:15:

In Reply to: whats a SWEET Air PISTOL?? posted by Steve... on August 15, 2000 at 01:33:01:

Try the Beeman P3.
From what I've heard it is a very sweet pistol, and it is on my list of airguns to get next.

It's a single stroke pneumatic.
in .177 it goes just below 400fps (depending on pellet).
From what I've heard it has a great trigger.
Goes for about $130
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Msg. 275485  Posted by Chris Farhi on August 15, 2000 at 01:34:48:

In Reply to: Re: Ripoff Artist posted by M Boyle on August 14, 2000 at 05:45:46:

The gun laws here in New Zealand are pretty sweet.
No-where near as bad as the British ones.

Chris Farhi (A fellow New Zealander - Auckland).
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Msg. 275484  Posted by Steve... on August 15, 2000 at 01:33:01:

please help a newbie
Any recommendations??
please specify the power(FPS)....
price....
uses CO2 or whatever...
any what are the main diff. or power supply for Air Pistols...
THANKS....
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Msg. 275483  Posted by s[i]lencer on August 15, 2000 at 01:31:52:

In Reply to: Choices posted by Jason on August 13, 2000 at 22:31:35:

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In Reply to: Choices posted by Jason on August 13, 2000 at 22:31:35:



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Msg. 275479  Posted by John Sa. on August 15, 2000 at 01:28:52:

In Reply to: Thoughts on adequate accuracy for plinking at 15 m posted by Crane on August 13, 2000 at 18:52:44:

The fun in plinking is hitting. 'Good enough' plinking accuracy ensures that when you miss your target, it's almost always your fault, almost never the gun's.
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Msg. 275478  Posted by Roland Martens on August 15, 2000 at 01:10:06:

In Reply to: Caliber? posted by Pel-It on August 14, 2000 at 21:53:02:

.22
Chronoed 14.3 CP's avg. 789 fps, 19.6 ft-lbs.

for .177 try some heavier pellets. H&N Match (Kodiak Match) or CP's heavies.

For an M52, the trigger mod and a Maccari GSI Kit will do a huge difference

Keep shooting
Roland
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Msg. 275477  Posted by Chris Farhi on August 15, 2000 at 01:01:44:

In Reply to: Re: Interesting Targets posted by Bob Miller on August 14, 2000 at 22:34:50:

Try snails aswell - they really go splat.

chris
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Msg. 275476  Posted by MAD DAWG on August 15, 2000 at 00:54:35:

The Tacoma Rifle & Revolver Club is hosting a trial series of Airgun Field Target matches. The matches will be held the 1st & 3rd Sundays of the month. First Match will be Aug. 20 - and per above schedule through November 5. Participation at these events will determine if program continues. T.R.&R. has an outstanding facility for this venue. Shooting will be conducted both in open fields and in the 'woods'. In the case of inclement weather, the program will be moved under one of the clubs 'covered' firing, maintenance, and social areas. More information will be posted August 15.

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Msg. 275475  Posted by RBest on August 15, 2000 at 00:53:31:

In Reply to: SuperStar .22 for FT posted by Gary on August 14, 2000 at 21:49:18:

Gary: the larger bore puts you at a slight disadvantage, but you could do it. The bigger the scope the better. High mag scopes have a better depth of field and can rangefind more accurately(which is why they are popular). 18X is an absolute must, and if you can go higher- do so. There is a rub however. The proper BSA mounts will not allow bells larger than 44mm to be used, so keep that in mind. RB
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Msg. 275474  Posted by RBest on August 15, 2000 at 00:39:56:

In Reply to: b22 whats the word posted by rick on August 14, 2000 at 23:11:06:

It's somewhat of a copy of the Diana 48. Large sidelever that appears to be a good value. Made by Xifeng (Hercules) in china. RB
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Msg. 275473  Posted by Charlie on August 15, 2000 at 00:36:21:

In Reply to: Re: Crosman Challenger 2000 CO-2 3-position Rifle posted by Tom Gaylord on August 14, 2000 at 11:05:15:

Tom, Thanks for the quick response.
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Msg. 275472  Posted by JonF. on August 15, 2000 at 00:25:12:

I remember a site the had a bunch of really nice CUSTOM stocks for airguns like the super 12. Who was it and whats the address?

Thanks!
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Msg. 275471  Posted by RBest on August 15, 2000 at 00:15:09:

In Reply to: Re: Career's Rule! posted by BSJ on August 14, 2000 at 20:56:36:

There ya go- talking about chinese scientists again! LOL RB
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Msg. 275470  Posted by DonC on August 15, 2000 at 00:11:26:

In Reply to: Re: Paintballs as targets... posted by WJS/wi/usa on August 14, 2000 at 21:25:18:

WJS/wi/usa also told me a neat way to hold the paintballs for shooting. Buy "Great Stuff" insulation in an aresol can. Squirt some in a thin bead on a horizontal target board and stick the paint balls onto the bead as it expands and gets super sticky.
Don
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Msg. 275469  Posted by RBest on August 14, 2000 at 23:58:43:

In Reply to: Re: Gamo Compact question posted by Mike F. on August 14, 2000 at 07:15:56:

Got mine used from Anthony Storey a couple years ago, and it's still shooting quite well. There is plastic, but it doesn't seen to make any difference. I personally feel it's one of Gamo's best efforts ! Very Consistent shooter. RB
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Msg. 275468  Posted by Simon Slick on August 14, 2000 at 23:55:50:

In Reply to: crosman 2250 posted by Eli Gratz on August 14, 2000 at 23:27:55:

Put in CO2 cartridge, pull bolt back to cock gun, load pellet, close bolt, aim, fire. Very simple operation. L8R SSlick
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Msg. 275467  Posted by RBest on August 14, 2000 at 23:53:58:

In Reply to: Re: Moonrise Over Texas posted by chasm on August 14, 2000 at 23:36:41:

Charlie: you just gave me the best laugh I've had all day ! Are we talking about a flea circus now? I agree that a trip would be an excellent refresher.
As for that mushroom, we are contemplating the use of my big Stihl chainsaw to cut it down, but the seismic disturbance it may cause when it falls could be catastrophic for left coasters. In the interest of preserving all that is flaky in SoCal, we might have to resort to the use of a Sikorsky Sky Crane and hawsers to gently lower it after we cut it.
Gotta run- my neighbor just called and said there was a nattily dressed rabbit with a pocketwatch standing in front of it ! RB
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Msg. 275466  Posted by RBest on August 14, 2000 at 23:39:25:

This last week I had a gent leave a message on my answering machine. He was looking for the grease BSA supplies for lubing the neck and O ring on the buddy bottle of the Super 10. I believe the BSA designation was Molycote 33. This fellow had a drawl, but failed to leave his name and area code (although he left a seven digit phone number). If you are reading this, that grease is simply a pure silicone grease, and Dow Corning makes it for Molycote. Silicone "divers grease" should work just fine if you can't locate the Dow grease. A little goes a VERY long way. RB
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Msg. 275465  Posted by Howard Chapman II on August 14, 2000 at 23:38:09:

In Reply to: Is the Crosman 782B rifle accurate? posted by Chris on August 13, 2000 at 14:59:39:

Chris,

I shot one in a benchrest match tonight and it shot very well, with 7.9 permiers it shoots around 540 fps, would take a sparrow out to about 20 yards, but larger game would be a little to tough. The repeater part is the BB's are in an internal magazine and you don't have to fool with loading, it's not shoot as fast as you can pull the trigger, you have to work the action every time you shoot a shot. The number of usable shots per Co2 Bulb is around 40 or so, then it starts to drop off pretty quick. I think if your wanting to shoot game you'd be better off getting a Sheridan or some other multi-pump rifle if your wanting to stay on the lowest cost side of the spectrum, otherwise why don't you go for a good spring piston gun with some speed.

HTH... Howard
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Msg. 275464  Posted by chasm on August 14, 2000 at 23:36:41:

In Reply to: Re: Moonrise Over Texas posted by RBest on August 14, 2000 at 23:08:23:

Russ,

Shame on you! I would have thought by now that you would know that everything here in Texas is Bigger! Obviously, I haven't done my job. Now I know that you've visited Texas as you told me about your Alamo trip back in the sixties. Guess none of our Texas vixens grabbed you then or you wouldn't still be touting Senator Lieberman's and Ms. Stewart's state (and you'd probably still be living here). As a matter of fact, our toadstools are so large that when the Circus visits here they don't even need to use their tents! The toadstools suffice. And, as you know, we've already settled the crow size issue. I think you may need a Texas refresher trip, so that your posts can reflect the true Texas situation.

chasm
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Msg. 275463  Posted by Mike F. on August 14, 2000 at 23:28:25:

In Reply to: Re: Gamo Compact question posted by Charlie on August 14, 2000 at 07:37:56:


Charlie, I just use crosman airgun oil on the piston and also on the piston rod where it passes into the air cylinder. There is a small air intake hole on the top left front of the air chamber. You can see the piston move past the hole when the top is almost fully extended before compressing the air. Go easy on the oil. Just a drop about every 1000 shots is all I use. I hope this helps.
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Msg. 275462  Posted by Eli Gratz on August 14, 2000 at 23:27:55:

I took a look at this gun, but i remember it ebing somewaht difficult to fire. There was a lot to the cocking and loading methods. Any help would be appreciated. Is it worth the risk? Thanks
--Eli
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Msg. 275461  Posted by RBest on August 14, 2000 at 23:26:28:

In Reply to: Comparatively, you are both lucky..... posted by jj on August 14, 2000 at 11:28:28:

JJ: it takes a lot of determination and guts to deal with the world without real parents around. Not everybody can manage it. In addition to being a single dad the last seven years- I have also been a foster parent. My foster son(Mike)had a real rough start as a kid, but we managed to have some fun and we both learned from the two years he was here. He's grown now (6'5" !) and has moved to NH as an ASE certified Nissan mechanic. He still comes by on XMas and Fathers Day and calls me Pop. He turned out OK too. Regards, Russ
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Msg. 275460  Posted by JR99 on August 14, 2000 at 23:26:20:

In Reply to: What's a Stocker Air Rifle? posted by Swinson on August 14, 2000 at 20:48:47:


maybe I'am missing the point.
Aloha John
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Msg. 275459  Posted by aaron gassman on August 14, 2000 at 23:23:18:

In Reply to: Re: Questions for TAU-7 owners posted by R J K on August 13, 2000 at 03:14:44:

With iron sights from bench rest. Not very scopable, but I'm sure it's capable of much better than I get.
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Msg. 275458  Posted by David Bruce on August 14, 2000 at 23:20:21:

Some People here asked about full auto airguns in the past. Here is a link I just found on another forum to the Star Fire like at the carnivals.

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Msg. 275457  Posted by Anthony on August 14, 2000 at 23:15:13:

In Reply to: Re: The Swift 8-32x-50mm scope is here at Silver Streak..... posted by Marty Silver Streak on August 14, 2000 at 17:35:29:

Marty, on the focusing closer issue, I believe they can only move the lens cells so far out or apart from one another before there is no way it will focus. There is probably a word for this that I do not know. Sorta like moving a magnifying glass only so far away from what you are looking at before it becomes so fuzzy as to be useless. On the Swifts to focus closer do you rotate the front bell in a direction that in essence makes the scope longer? If this is how they work then the scope tube would have to be long enough and hopefully have the proper pitch threads on it to allow the extra 3 or 4 mm of lens cell travel to come down from 25 yards to do 10 and cover from 10 to 50 in 1 revolution of the front bell.For FT I believe to cover the 10 to 50 (now 55 yards as per AAFTA) distance a scope manufacturer should thread the front of the scope so we do not have to surpass 360 degrees of front bell revolution to focus from 10 to 50.1 and a half to 2 turns is disturbing to deal with under pressure in a match. Just wondering would Swift know if the threads are cast on the tube or lathe cut?
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Msg. 275456  Posted by RBest on August 14, 2000 at 23:13:06:

In Reply to: Re: Airgun Ethics posted by Swinson on August 14, 2000 at 22:17:16:

Craig: is that anything like the old Funkedelics song "Free Your Mind and Your A** Will Follow"? Nah- probably not. :>) Russ
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Msg. 275455  Posted by aaron gassman on August 14, 2000 at 23:12:58:

In Reply to: Career 9mm questions posted by matt sudol on August 13, 2000 at 18:39:54:

BRAIN SHOTS ONLY! Not that I'm condoning hunting with illegal weapons, which it would be in any state I know of. Last month I dropped a 65# wild boar in it's tracks at twenty-five yards with my nine, literally knocking the shit out of him. A 65# hog has a thicker, tougher skull than a 150# deer. DO NOT TAKE A CHEST SHOT ON ANYTHING BIGGER THAN A JACKRABBIT WITH EVEN A 9MM... UGLY AT BEST, MORE LIKELY YOU'LL LOSE YOUR GAME. You can break 200 ft/lb with swaged 148 grain hollow base wadcutters SIZED TO .355. Took my hog with one well-placed 60 grain Dae Sung pellet.
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Msg. 275454  Posted by jason on August 14, 2000 at 23:12:49:

In Reply to: Which pellets posted by Jason on August 14, 2000 at 23:00:33:

Oh, and which is more accurate on SEMI and SINGLE shot.
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Msg. 275453  Posted by rick on August 14, 2000 at 23:11:06:

ive been hearing about the b22 any info on this rifle would be much appreciated

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Msg. 275452  Posted by RBest on August 14, 2000 at 23:08:23:

In Reply to: Moonrise Over Texas posted by chasm on August 14, 2000 at 22:23:52:

If I could clear the giant mushrooms out of the way, I could see it over CT also. Kinda rainy lately. Truthfully- I saw the biggest toadstool I've ever seen this week. A five year old coulda sat on it!! Now tell me Texas has toadstools like that! heh heh RB
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Msg. 275451  Posted by BarryB on August 14, 2000 at 23:07:29:

In Reply to: Pumpkin chuckers. posted by BSJ on August 14, 2000 at 21:11:17:

Say it isn't so. The Sussex County website still shows it scheduled for Nov 4th and 5th.

Ya gotta love those unlimited "airguns"?
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Msg. 275450  Posted by JonF. on August 14, 2000 at 23:06:01:

In Reply to: Tell ya what Swinson, posted by TimH on August 14, 2000 at 22:51:43:

There IS a Bushnell Elite 4200 8-32 for $387 from D&R! And they got it to me in like a day! VERY sweet scope. And there's the Burris for $450 from Natchez.

PS for the Ultimate scope, check out Premier Reticles, they modify Leupolds i.e. 20-50-50mm Long Range 30mm tube with 3 inch side wheel focus!http://www.premierreticles.com/


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Msg. 275449  Posted by RBest on August 14, 2000 at 23:04:39:

In Reply to: Hey Russ.... posted by Jeff on August 14, 2000 at 22:19:32:

Jeff: I don't know what A Team recommends. Maybe some white lithium? RB
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Msg. 275448  Posted by bcd on August 14, 2000 at 23:01:00:

In Reply to: Chill, Dude. posted by aaron gassman on August 14, 2000 at 22:47:15:


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Msg. 275447  Posted by Jason on August 14, 2000 at 23:00:33:

What pellets should I use for the gamo 23, and/or the Walther P99. Which pellets are better suited for each.
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Re: Carbine or long?


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Msg. 275446  Posted by JonF. on August 14, 2000 at 23:00:25:

In Reply to: Carbine or long? posted by Andrew on August 14, 2000 at 22:43:34:

That 6 inches will make a difference when you want to shoulder it quickly and smoothly. And the long gun is probably a bit muzzle heavy. Which will keep it steady but will fatigue you. A long gun is on it's way to me.
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Msg. 275445  Posted by JonF on August 14, 2000 at 22:56:09:

In Reply to: Anybody have a CRX in .22 posted by Swinson on August 14, 2000 at 22:29:27:

The Huntsman PH6 is regulated, and is a repeater. And comes with a nice sporter stock.
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Msg. 275444  Posted by John Sa. on August 14, 2000 at 22:54:58:

In Reply to: Moonrise Over Texas posted by chasm on August 14, 2000 at 22:23:52:

I have to agree. The sunsets are pretty spectacular as well.
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Msg. 275443  Posted by aaron gassman on August 14, 2000 at 22:54:01:

In Reply to: Re: Career posted by Mac1 on August 14, 2000 at 11:10:17:

And if you just gotta have a big bore, the 9 mm is the way to go.
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Msg. 275442  Posted by CJ on August 14, 2000 at 22:53:09:

In Reply to: Re: QB78 muscled up!... thanks Don posted by TStray on August 14, 2000 at 22:34:51:

Never did a .22 but it should run to the 700fps mark due to the better flow less (restrictive barrel and ports).

CJ
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Msg. 275441  Posted by Swinson on August 14, 2000 at 22:51:57:

In Reply to: Re: Paintballs as targets... posted by WJS/wi/usa on August 14, 2000 at 21:25:18:

Sorry you're right new PB's cost exazctly what you said, I did not state correctly that you can buy the "old ones" for about half price, really you can mostly get them close to free.
Regards,
Craig
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Tell ya what Swinson,


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Msg. 275440  Posted by TimH on August 14, 2000 at 22:51:43:

In Reply to: Swift 8-32x50mm posted by Albert on August 14, 2000 at 20:38:31:

Swift is the only adjustable powered scope I can find with a mag of 32x. Ya B&L has the 4200 but its only 24 power. Swift is the only scope I can find with a 32x mag. Loup, makes a 3-10x40 BSA makes a 32x but who wants a BSA? And no I am not going to spend $500 on a scope.

TimH
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Msg. 275439  Posted by Tir on August 14, 2000 at 22:50:39:

In Reply to: Re: Kids and airguns lately posted by Cody Dotter on August 14, 2000 at 16:27:35:

nt
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Re: QB78 Crosman160


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Msg. 275438  Posted by CJ on August 14, 2000 at 22:48:10:

In Reply to: QB78 Crosman160 posted by gotmilk? on August 14, 2000 at 22:12:12:

attention to detail is the number one thing wrong with the QB's but there's lot of potential.

CJ
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Msg. 275437  Posted by Dave B on August 14, 2000 at 22:47:16:

In Reply to: Moonrise Over Texas posted by chasm on August 14, 2000 at 22:23:52:

Sounds nice I remember them from San Antonio. I'll be seeing the sunrise over Bangor,Me. in about six hours. I have go jump in my big old truck and hit the big road. adios
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Msg. 275436  Posted by aaron gassman on August 14, 2000 at 22:47:15:

In Reply to: SHE'S ON EVERY CHANNEL! ESCAPE IMPOSSIBLE ... HELP ME!!! (NT) posted by bcd on August 14, 2000 at 22:39:42:

Sit back and ENJOY the FREAKSHOW! Remember..."It won't be long, now!"
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Msg. 275435  Posted by gary on August 14, 2000 at 22:46:45:

In Reply to: Anybody have a CRX in .22 posted by Swinson on August 14, 2000 at 22:29:27:

don't have a crx but have a huntsman in 22cal and it is awsome best shot is a crow at 90 yards and it went right threw him
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Msg. 275433  Posted by Ron Robinson on August 14, 2000 at 22:44:33:

In Reply to: Ron Robinson's email/phone number...please....nt posted by Chavez on August 14, 2000 at 18:02:42:

(512)894-0777 Best to call between PM and midnight, central time.
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Carbine or long?


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Msg. 275432  Posted by Andrew on August 14, 2000 at 22:43:34:

In Reply to: Career's Rule! posted by Swinson on August 14, 2000 at 20:37:24:

The career is going to be my next rifle. What are the advantages of the Carbine? Its only 6 inches smaller, and just a wee .75 pounds lighter. And the downside... holds less air right?
So why would I want the carbine?
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Msg. 275431  Posted by John Sa. on August 14, 2000 at 22:41:55:

In Reply to: air rifles posted by Mark Bleach on August 13, 2000 at 20:15:58:

Ask about the Tech Force clone of the FWB 300s, called the BS4. Find someone who has bought one and see what they think of it. It would probably be a good choice for a 10m rifle if you get favorable reviews.
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" I chronoed it with 7.9 CPs and it checked in at 890 fps. " = 13.9 ft-lbs.


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Msg. 275430  Posted by Spring_Change on August 14, 2000 at 22:40:19:

In Reply to: Caliber? posted by Pel-It on August 14, 2000 at 21:53:02:

good factory or GSI spring should over +1000 fps = 18 ft-lbs.
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Msg. 275429  Posted by bcd on August 14, 2000 at 22:39:42:


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Msg. 275428  Posted by Swinson on August 14, 2000 at 22:38:32:

In Reply to: Re: WOWWWWWWW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! posted by Roland Martens on August 14, 2000 at 20:03:51:

Hey I just downloaded that movie of the big gun shooting....very cool stuff. Don't ever think I would buy one but I'd love to live near a guy who had one.

Regards,
Craig
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Not as good.


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Msg. 275427  Posted by aaron gassman on August 14, 2000 at 22:37:31:

In Reply to: QB78 Crosman160 posted by gotmilk? on August 14, 2000 at 22:12:12:

But still a good deal, especially if you don't mind some gunsmithing.

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25.CAL CROW MAGNUM UP FOR SALE.......ONE MORE TIME!!!


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Msg. 275425  Posted by keith on August 14, 2000 at 22:37:09:

Hi I'm posting this one more time for those of you that might not have seen it!! I'm sell a 25.cal Crow magnum it is like new......no scratches or dings .......mint bought about 5 months ago and have only shot it a few times! I just have too many hobbies and other toys to use it! This gun really likes kodiac match pellets the best I have done so far is 3/8" at 25 yards using the side of the house as a rest. I'm asking $700.00 If you are interested please e-mail me in private and i can send pics of the gun.....kac1345@aol.com
Thanks Keith.
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Msg. 275424  Posted by TStray on August 14, 2000 at 22:34:51:

In Reply to: Re: QB78 muscled up!... thanks Don posted by CJ on August 14, 2000 at 21:59:14:

What kind of velocites are you getting with .22's ?

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Msg. 275423  Posted by Bob Miller on August 14, 2000 at 22:34:50:

In Reply to: Interesting Targets posted by BSJ on August 14, 2000 at 05:24:40:

I was reading about you interesting targets and thought of another interesting target
I have a lot of cherry tomatoes in the back yard... I bet they would go "SPLAT" when you hit them.
Bob
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Msg. 275421  Posted by Swinson on August 14, 2000 at 22:29:27:

I'm thinking about the CRX for a hunting rifle and was wondering if anyone had one in .22 with a non FT stock, maybe a hunting ot "sporter" stock?
What kinda groups you getting, what FPS with what pellet, and how many shots per fill.

Regards,
Craig

BLA BLA BLA free floated barrel on a hunting gun...yeah I know.


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Moonrise Over Texas


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Msg. 275420  Posted by chasm on August 14, 2000 at 22:23:52:

Fellow Airgunners,

I decided that I was all too serious with my earlier post and decided to try to mitigate that serious tone with a description of the fantastic moonrise that we had here in Texas tonight. Would that the rest of you had had one as nice. I realize that Texas has many advantages over most other states, and don't want to sound too proud, but tonight was marvelous and quite beautiful. I don't know how ya'lls monrises are, but you need to come down here to see the best ones.

chasm
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Msg. 275419  Posted by Jeff on August 14, 2000 at 22:19:32:

Russ I have the A-Team trigger kit and no lube for the installation. What lubes can I use that can be bought over the counter at the local hardware store? Thanks, Jeff.....
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Re: Airgun Ethics


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Msg. 275418  Posted by Swinson on August 14, 2000 at 22:17:16:

In Reply to: Airgun Ethics posted by chasm on August 14, 2000 at 22:00:41:

It's an interesting but hard rule to follow as Thumper was a cartoon character and had a whole different set of issues. Think of it this way, would the COMMON good be served by saying what you have to say or would it not help anyone.
If you are getting screwed over by a firm and I may in process with that same firm you could only help me by letting me know. Now on the other hand if this is some abboration and you say something too soon and not let nature take it's course...well then you look silly.
In the end I think that the saying "the truth will set you free" is pretty good.
Your choice.
Regards,
Craig

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QB78 Crosman160


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Msg. 275417  Posted by gotmilk? on August 14, 2000 at 22:12:12:

how is the quality and build of the QB78 compare to the Crosman160?
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Msg. 275416  Posted by Swinson on August 14, 2000 at 22:09:56:

In Reply to: Re: What's a Stocker Air Rifle? ANSWER posted by AIRPOWER on August 14, 2000 at 21:52:00:

That's where I want to get my gun from!
Like I said there are no AUTHORIZED US dealers, if he want's to be one I'm sure he can but he's at least got to spell it right.

Regards,
Craig
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Msg. 275415  Posted by Uncle Gary on August 14, 2000 at 22:08:04:

In Reply to: Airgun Ethics posted by chasm on August 14, 2000 at 22:00:41:

Good advice for anyone Charley, my own big mouth has gotten me into trouble more than once! But I guess I'm just a big grown-up kid sometimes, ya' know? Regards,
Unc

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Hang on son, we'll get this all sorted out here after a while! [GRIN!]


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Msg. 275414  Posted by Uncle Gary on August 14, 2000 at 22:03:42:

In Reply to: Yo, Unc! Speak up (NT) posted by bcd on August 13, 2000 at 20:58:50:

Evidently James is talking about a radar-type chrono. I'm interested in what he's got, most of the radar chronos I've seen didn't work well with small projectiles like .177 pellets. But maybe he's onto a new development, let's find out! Cheers!
Unc

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Msg. 275413  Posted by Pel-It on August 14, 2000 at 22:03:09:

In Reply to: All about FX-2000 - Help Plz... posted by Omer on August 14, 2000 at 18:22:22:

I have both the Raider in 22 and the Axsor in 177. The Raider puts out 22 ft/lbs with Crosman Premiers doing 830 fps to 845 fps. Is it loud? A bit louder that most magnum springers, sort of like a good hand clap with a bit more bass. A 22 LR usually puts out 100ft/lbs so don't be thinking your gonna be out killin Coyotes with it but headshot rabbits at 40 yards are deader than disco.
Pel-It
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Msg. 275412  Posted by chasm on August 14, 2000 at 22:00:41:

Fellow Airgunners,

Ya'll saw a great example of ethics demonstrated earlier today by one of our members. I was very pleased and not very surprised. I consider our group a "Band of Brothers" to use one of the Bard's characterizations. I like to think that we all try to help each other. Which brings me to my point. I've noticed over the last couple of years some posts which have been quite critical of firms and/or equipment. Usually those posts put me off some. Generally, I try to adhere to Thumper's advice and not say anything at all if it isn't nice. However, I've just about reached my limit in a particular situation. On one hand, I feel loyalty to a firm, and on the other hand I feel loyalty to ya'll. Anyway, someone probably wiser that Thumper, said to take a deep breath and wait a while, and most times the big problems will go away. I'd like to believe that and will give it a try.

chasm
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Msg. 275411  Posted by Uncle Gary on August 14, 2000 at 21:59:50:

In Reply to: Re: Chronograph posted by James Kitching on August 13, 2000 at 22:34:13:

Glad you like it James! Have you ever tried the Oehler 35P? Price of the Oehler 35P is $225 delivered w/o printer, $335 with printer. How does this compare to the price of the Pro? Regards,
Unc

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Msg. 275410  Posted by CJ on August 14, 2000 at 21:59:14:

In Reply to: QB78 muscled up! posted by Don Main on August 14, 2000 at 13:58:56:

Thanks for the write up.
What I do to the guns is match port the barrel on a mill,part off the bolt and put a probe on, cut the O-ring groove for the bolt ,Profile the vavle for more flow, increase the hammer spring, And put another set screw in the breech to hold the barrel. With this set you can hit 800fps with hobbys and 750-770fps with CPL's and the plastic barrel clamp works with the extra set screw.
Any takers can contact me at my E-mail. $40 and you pay the shipping.

CJ
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Msg. 275409  Posted by Art on August 14, 2000 at 21:58:11:

In Reply to: Re: Interesting Targets_ now Air Arms posted by BSJ on August 14, 2000 at 20:36:40:

I had made some in steel and painted them with day-glo orange. Problem after a few hit knock all paint off. I have a brass rod 1" dia. so I fired up the metal lathe and turned down some target faces. The rest of the spinners is made from steel. don't know how long it will stand up, but they sure look neat all polished up & no painting.

Art
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Re: Indoor lighting accessory for the Oehler 35P.....


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Msg. 275408  Posted by Uncle Gary on August 14, 2000 at 21:56:32:

In Reply to: Oehler 35p with printer posted by Tom Jue/ca/usa on August 13, 2000 at 23:24:27:

Tom,
I just use a 20-watt flourescent droplight hung up over the diffusers in the basement, and it works fine. You don't want too much light overhead, just enough so the pellet casts a shadow on the photoeyes of the screens. HTH!
Gary

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Caliber?


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Msg. 275407  Posted by Pel-It on August 14, 2000 at 21:53:02:

In Reply to: New adds on the " Unofficial RWS 54 Home Page " posted by Roland Martens on August 14, 2000 at 19:56:34:

What caliber's your 54. Just bought myself a 52 and am looking for ways to trick it up. It's in .177 and "shoots flat like lazer". Lately, I chronoed it with 7.9 CPs and it checked in at 890 fps. Any suggetions ???
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Msg. 275406  Posted by AIRPOWER on August 14, 2000 at 21:52:00:

In Reply to: What's a Stocker Air Rifle? posted by Swinson on August 14, 2000 at 20:48:47:

I see Swinson has been to the Pomona Air Guns site. I believe that the Stocker would be best described as a " SPELLING ERROR ".

Try "Stalker"

BOB

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Msg. 275404  Posted by Uncle Gary on August 14, 2000 at 21:50:13:

In Reply to: Re: FT group sizes posted by Wade on August 13, 2000 at 18:57:51:

Yeah, but you do be da' best, man! (Heh-Heh-Heh!)
;-)
Unc

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Hercules B4-2...Powerful or plastic pea flinger?


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Msg. 275403  Posted by Chris on August 14, 2000 at 21:50:03:

Does the hercules B4-2 have enough power to take out a squirrel? It says 900fps with .177. Seems like a good deal for $33.00!
Chris

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Msg. 275402  Posted by Larz on August 14, 2000 at 21:49:20:

In Reply to: Sheridan/Benjamin Gun Question? posted by Sam Co. on August 14, 2000 at 18:01:57:

you personal caliber preference.

The Benjamin/Sheridan line of guns have been morphed into a standard one size fits all mold by crosman.

Both guns now sport the same look and feel and hardware(ncluding the stock).

Gone are the days of distinction between the two products.

As I said, it's now a matter of caliber preference.

Later

Larz
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Msg. 275401  Posted by Gary on August 14, 2000 at 21:49:18:

I would like to set my SuperStar.22 up for hunting and FT work. What is the way to go for scope and mounts? What is the best range to zero for FT?


Thanks

Gary
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Msg. 275400  Posted by MarkD on August 14, 2000 at 21:48:24:

In Reply to: Career's Rule! posted by Swinson on August 14, 2000 at 20:37:24:

With Steve being on vacation, I thought I would be here to defend the Careers but now that Marty is back us Career owners are running strong!!!
MarkD
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Msg. 275399  Posted by Art on August 14, 2000 at 21:45:50:

In Reply to: Re: WOWWWWWWW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! posted by Roland Martens on August 14, 2000 at 20:03:51:

I don't think that is a gatling, I think it's a vulcan model or sometimes called a Mini-gun.

I have seen a .22LR gatling model being fired, as a matter of fact I have it VHS tape. The Gatling is fired by turning a crank, so this makes it fall outside the NFA rules of a machine gun.

Last gun show I went to there was a full size one in 45/70 .

The BB gun one looks cool, I have the US Airgun magazine with the article on it, picture is on the cover.
Art
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Msg. 275398  Posted by JeffGuinan on August 14, 2000 at 21:45:03:

In Reply to: choice between the b21 or b22 posted by wayne on August 14, 2000 at 19:28:50:


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Msg. 275397  Posted by Gary on August 14, 2000 at 21:41:03:

In Reply to: Sheridan 397 Need Peep sight info posted by wayne on August 14, 2000 at 20:20:25:

Wayne,

The D5 will bolt right up without mods. to the newer rifles. You either have a Sheridan in .20 or a Benj/Sheridan in .177. Sheridan's are all .20 cal. Anyway, they will bold to either one as long as it's a newer mod. where it is already drilled and taped. I have one on my Sheridan and it's great. Much better than the stock iron sights.

Gary
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Msg. 275396  Posted by Jeff Guinan on August 14, 2000 at 21:37:21:

In Reply to: Re: Need Crosman 160 advice. posted by acet on August 14, 2000 at 19:14:55:



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Msg. 275394  Posted by Dave B on August 14, 2000 at 21:30:24:

In Reply to: Re: FORUM posted by RBest on August 14, 2000 at 19:36:16:

Offered with a big question mark!!!!!
I was hoping I could have a conclusive answer.
Thank you trevor for your answer, I hadn't thought of it.
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Msg. 275393  Posted by WJS/wi/usa on August 14, 2000 at 21:25:18:

In Reply to: Paintballs as targets... posted by Steve T on August 14, 2000 at 19:27:04:

As Swinson said they are totally safe. I've been at some shoots where people have eaten them with no ill effect. They taste terrible and I'm sure they were just doing it to look macho. Either way they are safe for the enviornment. If you know any paintballers or stores you might ask for old ones. As was stated they are not good for shooting. As they get old the tend to swell a little and get gummy and as a result they break in the barrel or action and gum up the works. Paintballers call it "splooge". Old ones really mess up my Full Auto gun. Check out a shotgun news or gun list. You can buy a case of 2000 to 2500 for around $45.00 if you really want a lot of them. A case at the field can cost upwards of $90 to $110.
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Msg. 275392  Posted by Ray Pyke on August 14, 2000 at 21:22:32:

In Reply to: Need recommendations for position while shooting FT posted by Joe Matusic, MD on August 14, 2000 at 15:03:36:

nt
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Msg. 275391  Posted by RBest on August 14, 2000 at 21:18:35:

In Reply to: Career's Rule! posted by Swinson on August 14, 2000 at 20:37:24:

I knew you would do that ! Steve will get a good laugh if he gets his laptop hooked up. RB
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Msg. 275390  Posted by WJS/wi/usa on August 14, 2000 at 21:17:42:

In Reply to: Best .177 caliber pellet for killing rats posted by s[i]lencer on August 14, 2000 at 18:09:42:

I'd have to agree with the wadcutters. The little rat hunting (fortunately we haven't had many around) I've done has always been at relatively close range. Dome, points and even hollow points tend to over penetrate at closer ranges. If you are shooting over 15 or 20 yards I like the domes.

All that being said the best pellet is always the one that is most accurate in your gun no matter what the configuration.
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Msg. 275389  Posted by BSJ on August 14, 2000 at 21:11:17:

I heard on the news today that the pumpkin chuckers competition got canceled this year.

The cannons were getting so big they couldn't find any place to hold it.
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Msg. 275388  Posted by Gary on August 14, 2000 at 21:09:58:

In Reply to: Sheridan 397 Need Peep sight info posted by wayne on August 14, 2000 at 20:20:25:

Wayne,

The D5 will bolt right up without mods. to the newer rifles. You either have a Sheridan in .20 or a Benj/Sheridan in .177. Sheridan's are all .20 cal. Anyway, they will bold to either one as long as it's a newer mod. where it is already drilled and taped. I have one on my Sheridan and it's great. Much better than the stock iron sights.

Gary
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Msg. 275387  Posted by BSJ on August 14, 2000 at 21:06:31:

In Reply to: Paintballs as targets... posted by Steve T on August 14, 2000 at 19:27:04:

The only negative thing I've heard about them is you sure as heck don't want to get the paint in your eyes.

Oh, and don't do what a couple of very stupid local kids did with their brand new PB gun. They were shooting at cars from a bridge. They were having so much fun they didn't notice the cop car. Shortly after shooting one though an open window and hitting the screen a foot from the cops head, they got hauled off to jail.
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Msg. 275386  Posted by Steve on August 14, 2000 at 21:05:49:

Hi guys, I'm wondering which of these 3 guns is the best to buy, Gamo P-23, Crosman 1008, or Crosman 357-6. If you can organize them in place first, second, third. Thanks.
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Msg. 275385  Posted by jEFF on August 14, 2000 at 21:02:53:

What lubes are recomended for installing trigger springs on the Career 707. Is there an asortment of lubes or is there the one?
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Msg. 275384  Posted by Wade on August 14, 2000 at 20:58:41:

In Reply to: Career's Rule! posted by Swinson on August 14, 2000 at 20:37:24:

Craig,
Still waiting on Gary to give me a hard date.
Give me your new info so shipping will be as you
want it. Thanks!
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Msg. 275383  Posted by BSJ on August 14, 2000 at 20:58:04:

In Reply to: What's a Stocker Air Rifle? posted by Swinson on August 14, 2000 at 20:48:47:

It would sort of be like yours, only much more plain.

That's supposed to be a joke BTW.
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Msg. 275382  Posted by BSJ on August 14, 2000 at 20:56:36:

In Reply to: Re: Career's Rule! posted by Swinson on August 14, 2000 at 20:49:49:

Nope not one of those. It's one of those words I can't use with one of those other words. You know, like *****.

I bet predator picks it up:-)

On the other hand. Here's a good REMF saying: "DON'T SHOOT, I know secrets!"
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Msg. 275381  Posted by Sidelever_Freak on August 14, 2000 at 20:50:50:

In Reply to: New adds on the " Unofficial RWS 54 Home Page " posted by Roland Martens on August 14, 2000 at 19:56:34:

I 'll send my 54-.177 for the treatment.
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Msg. 275380  Posted by Swinson on August 14, 2000 at 20:49:49:

In Reply to: Re: Career's Rule! posted by BSJ on August 14, 2000 at 20:48:29:

I would expect that from a REMF.

Regards,
Craig
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Msg. 275379  Posted by Swinson on August 14, 2000 at 20:48:47:

Now I'm really confused? ANybody have one, what's it look like and what does it shoot?

Regards,
Craig
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Re: Career's Rule!


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Msg. 275378  Posted by BSJ on August 14, 2000 at 20:48:29:

In Reply to: Career's Rule! posted by Swinson on August 14, 2000 at 20:37:24:

And here I thought you going to find more ways to temp me.

What would you think if a used the word ZARF?
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Msg. 275377  Posted by BSJ on August 14, 2000 at 20:46:37:

In Reply to: New Forum Check it out posted by Daimond on August 14, 2000 at 20:42:06:

What's "new" about it? Posts go back to Jan 2000.
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Msg. 275376  Posted by Swinson on August 14, 2000 at 20:46:04:

In Reply to: Swift 8-32x50mm posted by Albert on August 14, 2000 at 20:38:31:

I think he said it wasn't good, or at least this batch but if they were good (maybe next batch will be good) then they would sort of be the holy grail of entry level scopes for FT.
Think about it some of the "best scopes" for FT start at about $350 or so, and just go up from there. And when I mean best I mean able to compete with the big boys, that's why the B&L 4200 elite was such a great scope(Bushnell 6-24x40) It had/has some of the best optics out there, it repatable in every adjustment and can range pretty good AND is relatively cheap.
If those guys would listen to Marty and do what's right, the Swift could open up a whole new area to "aspiring FT shooters". Think about it you could get a reasonable guns and scope for the cost of some guys scopes alone and be fairly competative.
Unfortunately what makes a good high mag scope, that's bright, clear, and accurate may be outside the range of scope that's about $200. But heck this is the first run...maybe the next one will be better.

Regards,
Craig

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Msg. 275375  Posted by William on August 14, 2000 at 20:43:13:

In Reply to: Ripoff Artist posted by Ralph on August 14, 2000 at 04:21:47:

Come on Ralph spill it! What's your beef with this guy!
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Msg. 275374  Posted by Daimond on August 14, 2000 at 20:42:06:

First I would like to thank Airgun letter for running such a good board and setting an example for those of us who are trying to set up up similar projects...

Our Forum is located below.

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Re: Career 9mm questions


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Msg. 275373  Posted by BSJ on August 14, 2000 at 20:41:08:

In Reply to: Re: Career 9mm questions posted by Mike Pearson on August 14, 2000 at 08:38:10:

I was assuming cast bullets were going to be used so I was estimating a little higher ft/lb. Either way any "magnum" airguns, excluding the big .45's and 50's, are way under powered for big game.
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Msg. 275372  Posted by john from NY on August 14, 2000 at 20:38:34:

In Reply to: Who sells this mini target thrower? posted by Wallace Berry on August 14, 2000 at 17:32:31:

Ahh... I remember that, they used to have it in the Orvis catalog.

-john
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Msg. 275371  Posted by Albert on August 14, 2000 at 20:38:31:

Hello !

Is the Swift 8-32x50mm that Marty is talking about is so good ? Is it because of the ratio quality/price ?

Thanks a lot guys! I was just wondering what my next scope would be...

Al
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Msg. 275370  Posted by Albert on August 14, 2000 at 20:38:25:

Hello !

Is the Swift 8-32x50mm that Marty is talking about is so good ? Is it because of the ratio quality/price ?

Thanks a lot guy! I was just wondering what my next scope would be...

Al
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Msg. 275369  Posted by Swinson on August 14, 2000 at 20:37:24:

Just thought that I would put that in here as Steve in CT is on vacation.

Regards,
Craig
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Msg. 275368  Posted by BSJ on August 14, 2000 at 20:36:40:

In Reply to: Re: Interesting Targets_ now Air Arms posted by Art on August 14, 2000 at 19:47:05:

I did the same thing as you more or less. Made 20 of my own spinners out of steel. I've got one .5" on a tree at 17 yards. The rest are 7/8" or bigger. I was only shooting a 1.5" at 55 yards but after shooting the .38 cases I think I'll have to put a 7/8" one out there too.
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Msg. 275367  Posted by Swinson on August 14, 2000 at 20:33:17:

In Reply to: Re: Tiger Ten Air Rifles In The U.S.A.? Pamona Air Guns posted by AIRPOWER on August 14, 2000 at 18:12:47:

Is there a different Tiger Ten then the Stalkers?

Regards,
Craig
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Msg. 275366  Posted by BSJ on August 14, 2000 at 20:29:34:

In Reply to: WSC FT Match 8/20 posted by Mark Lisowski on August 14, 2000 at 20:26:57:

I plan on bringing another shooter with me too.

He has to shoot from a chair though.

See Ya!
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Msg. 275365  Posted by Mark Lisowski on August 14, 2000 at 20:26:57:

Westfield Sportsman's Club will be hosting it's next FT match this
Sunday, 8/20 at the club facilities in Westfield, MA. This will be a
50 shot match. There will be a BBQ after the match. Due to having the BBQ after
the match, and other time constraints, at the moment, there ARE NO PLANS to
hold an IFP Match this time around.

Just as a friendly reminder, the next match, scheduled for 9/17 will be the
Massachusetts State Championships. This match will be a 60 shot match. Hope
everyone with-in driving distance will try to attend.

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Msg. 275364  Posted by Pepi on August 14, 2000 at 20:26:46:

In Reply to: Kids and airguns lately posted by RBest on August 14, 2000 at 00:34:40:

Mom would say.... You will shoot your eye out!

;) NT
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Msg. 275363  Posted by chasm on August 14, 2000 at 20:26:20:

In Reply to: Consequences of " gun control " laws - link posted by All-American on August 14, 2000 at 18:00:32:

All-American,

I read it all and all I can say is Wow!

chasm
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Msg. 275362  Posted by wayne on August 14, 2000 at 20:20:25:

Will the Williams 5D receiver sight bolt directly to this rifle without any type of modification.Or is there a better sight available.
Any help is appreciated.
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Msg. 275361  Posted by William on August 14, 2000 at 20:14:16:

In Reply to: Broken TX200 Mk 4 posted by GF on August 14, 2000 at 16:07:51:

GF;
Just a thought; If you adjusted the two staged trigger you may have adjusted it too much!

William
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Re: Paintballs as targets...


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Msg. 275360  Posted by Swinson on August 14, 2000 at 20:12:00:

In Reply to: Paintballs as targets... posted by Steve T on August 14, 2000 at 19:27:04:

Think about it, if they were not safe to use outside don't you think every tree huggin' gun hating person would have written their congress person and had them banned?

Yes they are entirely water soluable and can be used outside with no ill effects that have been documented. Buy the cheapest ones you can find if you are using them for targets, you don't care if they can stand up to pressure inside a PB gun so that extra money on special colors and strong "bodies" won't mean squat to you.

If you buy in bulk you can get them for about $20 for 2500. Oddly if you make friends at a paintball store often times they will give you paintballs (old ones for free or at a deep discount). It seems that as paintballs get older they get weaker and sometimes explode in the gun...not a desireable thing. Check the URL for a store in your area.

Regards,
Craig

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Msg. 275359  Posted by Roland Martens on August 14, 2000 at 20:03:51:

In Reply to: Re: WOWWWWWWW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! posted by Art on August 14, 2000 at 19:39:00:

Who is talking about power?
Have you ever seen a Gatling gun shoot'n?

Check this URL!

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Msg. 275358  Posted by Swinson on August 14, 2000 at 20:02:52:

In Reply to: Re: WOWWWWWWW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! posted by Art on August 14, 2000 at 19:39:00:

25 to 30 is good, good ballance of shots per fill, power, sound, and ease of use.
Yeah when you want "big" power and noise I go for the powder burners as well.

Now there is never enough power in cars, that's for sure.

Regards,
Craig
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Msg. 275357  Posted by Roland Martens on August 14, 2000 at 19:56:34:

Hi, folks:
Just put some new interesting info in my URL. Check it out!

Happy shooting to all!

Roland



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I would like to know if anyone makes one similiar to the old Weaver one piece?


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Msg. 275356  Posted by Mike Landreth on August 14, 2000 at 19:54:16:

In Reply to: Scope Rings for Crosman 140 and 1400 posted by Chavez on August 14, 2000 at 01:17:36:


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Msg. 275355  Posted by Uncle Gary on August 14, 2000 at 19:53:14:

In Reply to: Neither..... posted by Simon Slick on August 14, 2000 at 02:07:16:

;-)

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Msg. 275353  Posted by Art on August 14, 2000 at 19:47:05:

In Reply to: Re: Interesting Targets posted by BSJ on August 14, 2000 at 16:30:24:

I have a S300. First PCP rifle. Same thing with trigger, messed with got it so-so then yesterday tried again now it's real nice. It also shoots very well. I made up some spinner targets today in 3/8, 1/2, 3/4, & 1". Made from brass and polished them so I would not have to paint them. Works fine so far. can hit any one of them at 25 yards. Don't have any more room in back yard.


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Msg. 275352  Posted by Zero on August 14, 2000 at 19:44:56:

In Reply to: Paintballs as targets... posted by Steve T on August 14, 2000 at 19:27:04:

Paintbals can range from $5.00 to $8.00 for a pack of about 250. They are made from some kind of vegetable extract. (I think they use vegetable oil as a base, like oilbased paints use oil.) So yes, you can leave them behind. They dissolve into nothingness when they get wet (or it rains). Just one word of advice: don't stand right next to them, you'll get paint all over yourself...

-Zero the Inestimable
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Msg. 275351  Posted by Art on August 14, 2000 at 19:39:00:

In Reply to: Re: WOWWWWWWW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! posted by Swinson on August 14, 2000 at 19:18:59:

Me too. I thought you had you of the large bores.
I like around 25 to 30 fpe in airguns.
Heck I have .17 Mach IV, Hornets, .223, 22/250, 25/06. Other larger calibers.

Cody seems to like power. So did I when I was teenager. Had a '65 GTO with Tri-Power. Rear Tires didn't last 3 months.

Art
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Msg. 275350  Posted by RBest on August 14, 2000 at 19:36:16:

In Reply to: FORUM posted by Dave B on August 14, 2000 at 19:33:16:

I think Trevor already offered Belgium? RB
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Msg. 275349  Posted by chasm on August 14, 2000 at 19:34:52:

In Reply to: Ron Robinson's email/phone number...please....nt posted by Chavez on August 14, 2000 at 18:02:42:

Chavez,

Ron's home number is 512-894-0777. HTH

chasm
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Msg. 275348  Posted by Cody Dotter on August 14, 2000 at 19:34:11:

In Reply to: Paintballs as targets... posted by Steve T on August 14, 2000 at 19:27:04:

I do know how much $$$ they cost. They cost $7.00 at K-Mart. I think you get 500 p-balls. I don't know if there safe to use outside and not pick them up.
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Msg. 275347  Posted by Dave B on August 14, 2000 at 19:33:16:

To the Newsletter:
This is just the best site, Iwant to thank you for making this all available! Now I don't have to call, I can just post it and go to work, and I'll have an answer when I get home. Thanx!
PS. any idea what country the Dare Devil Dinkum was made in. Or where I can look to find out.
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Msg. 275346  Posted by Art on August 14, 2000 at 19:32:10:

In Reply to: If the Career is god... posted by peter huppertz on August 14, 2000 at 18:01:53:

GOD, SON , Holy Ghost ???
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First picture seems best for me.


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Msg. 275345  Posted by Joe Matusic, MD on August 14, 2000 at 19:32:08:

In Reply to: You're using sitting overhand, right? You might want to try... posted by peter huppertz on August 14, 2000 at 18:14:39:

The second picture is what I have seen the most and simply cannot get into.

The first picture shows what I would like to do. I am thinking about building a palm rest to attach to the lower accessory rail of my P70FT to rest on.

I am not sure if I can get my right knee up there to rest my right elbow on, but will try again. With my right leg down, I have trouble holding my right shoulder steady.

A gentleman e-mailed me about the both elbow on knees method and I am not sure if I can hold this heavy gun that way. I will keep trying.

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Msg. 275344  Posted by wayne on August 14, 2000 at 19:28:50:

Id like a little input as two what might be my best bet for small game hunting the 980fps in 177 or the 770 fps in 22 cal. I know one is flatter and one has a little more punch but for say 20-40 yards what is everyones opinion on the more effective caliber given accuracy and placement are equal
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Msg. 275343  Posted by Tom B on August 14, 2000 at 19:27:08:

In Reply to: The Swift 8-32x-50mm scope is here at Silver Streak..... posted by Marty Silver Streak on August 14, 2000 at 14:01:26:

No problem Marty I for one will be waiting on the swift it's not a problem for me like stockey said your integrity is im peckable as well as your honesty thanks for being you Marty
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Msg. 275342  Posted by Steve T on August 14, 2000 at 19:27:04:

Is the paint environmentally safe? how much do they cost?
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Msg. 275341  Posted by Swinson on August 14, 2000 at 19:18:59:

In Reply to: Re: WOWWWWWWW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! posted by Art on August 14, 2000 at 19:02:51:

Out past .25 caliber (and really .22 caliber) airgunning loses it's fancy for me. I mean I have some barnes big guns, I have some stalkers too. I also have some custom creations that generate close to 2,000 FPE (20mm projectile).
Most cost more to shoot, are MUCH louder, and can't really be shot in places that you would normally shoot airguns. Too each his own I guess. I used to get excited about guns that would shoot extremely accurate at "low speeds" but things change I guess.

Regards,
Craig
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Msg. 275340  Posted by RBest on August 14, 2000 at 19:18:44:

In Reply to: WOWWWWWWW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! posted by Cody Dotter on August 14, 2000 at 18:44:42:

Here's $2500 worth. URL is clickable. RB

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What's your intended use for this rifle?....or pistol? nt.


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Msg. 275339  Posted by acet on August 14, 2000 at 19:17:51:

In Reply to: Re: Best gun for 500 dollars posted by matt sudol on August 14, 2000 at 18:26:51:


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Msg. 275338  Posted by john from NY on August 14, 2000 at 19:16:25:

In Reply to: Sheridan/Benjamin Gun Question? posted by Sam Co. on August 14, 2000 at 18:01:57:

Both are probably just as well made, but the Blue streak would be more apt to hunting because of the flatter trajectory.

-john
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Msg. 275337  Posted by Art on August 14, 2000 at 19:15:06:

In Reply to: Re: Who sells this mini target thrower? posted by Cody Dotter on August 14, 2000 at 17:36:29:

You are correct. Go the Cabela's and search for :CRACKER WHACKER
ITEM: XK-61-2530
MODEL: RIGHT HAND
PRICE: $18.99


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Msg. 275336  Posted by acet on August 14, 2000 at 19:14:55:

In Reply to: Need Crosman 160 advice. posted by Jeff Guinan on August 14, 2000 at 18:26:34:

I've changed the sights on a QB-77 and a Cr-160 in two different ways. On the 160, I kept the S331 rear and used a Crosman 411 front globe. Not very nice but it works and it is cheap. On the QB-77, I put an old Anschutz match sight in the rear and had a local gun-smith cut dove-tails at the muzzle to take a front globe off of a FWB 601. The result is very satisfying but it effectively doubled the cost of the rifle.
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Msg. 275335  Posted by john from NY on August 14, 2000 at 19:14:13:

In Reply to: Best .177 caliber pellet for killing rats posted by s[i]lencer on August 14, 2000 at 18:09:42:

Hollow Points, (i.e Crow Mags) at close ranges, premiers at longer ranges.

-john
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Msg. 275334  Posted by john from NY on August 14, 2000 at 19:12:30:

In Reply to: WOWWWWWWW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! posted by Cody Dotter on August 14, 2000 at 18:44:42:

I saw someone post that link before, damn that's powerful!!!!!
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Msg. 275333  Posted by Dave B on August 14, 2000 at 19:11:48:

In Reply to: Re: Best .177 caliber pellet for killing rats posted by Swinson on August 14, 2000 at 18:13:31:

Although the silver bear has animpressive wound channel on tree rats(squirrels)
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Msg. 275332  Posted by Dave B on August 14, 2000 at 19:07:48:

In Reply to: All about FX-2000 - Help Plz... posted by Omer on August 14, 2000 at 18:22:22:

you will be much happier with sound moderating device.If shooting in basement you WILL need ear protection!!!
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Msg. 275331  Posted by Art on August 14, 2000 at 19:02:51:

In Reply to: WOWWWWWWW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! posted by Cody Dotter on August 14, 2000 at 18:44:42:

I understand there is a 3 year waiting list.
Try the link below and check out the Puma I believe. Anyway check them all out they nice.
Art

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Msg. 275330  Posted by RBest on August 14, 2000 at 18:59:11:

In Reply to: Re: mom gets the kids dad gets the house posted by JS on August 14, 2000 at 08:30:27:

JS: I'm a single dad too, but it wasn't by choice. My wife died of cancer seven years ago. Many are the times I've had to tell my boys NO when they wanted something. Most of the time, finances dictated the answer rather than me being dead set against whatever it is they wanted. I will say one thing though- they both got a good education about airguns ! They each own a few, and when they want to try out the higher dollar stuff, they know I must be present, as they don't have free access to my collection. RB
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Msg. 275329  Posted by Jim Baumann on August 14, 2000 at 18:50:28:

In Reply to: Re: And your point is? (nt) posted by Mike Pearson on August 14, 2000 at 14:36:45:

(N/T)
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Msg. 275328  Posted by Greg J. on August 14, 2000 at 18:50:01:

In Reply to: Choices posted by Jason on August 13, 2000 at 22:31:35:

Jason,
I'd go with the CP-99 because you would have your choice of single or double action firing. The P-23 is only double action. Also, if you buy some extra cylinders, you could preload and have nonstop action. The CP-99 is very accurate for a 3-inch barrel.
Good luck, G.J.
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Msg. 275327  Posted by RBest on August 14, 2000 at 18:46:16:

In Reply to: Spring tempaccuracy posted by Sid E. on August 14, 2000 at 02:20:29:

I think it's more a matter of the shooters position not being PRECISELY the same when he sits back down again. When you shoot a number of strings successively, you get into a 'groove' where you hold the gun 'just so' and pull the trigger just so. After a brief break, that kinship with the gun is slightly lost, and it takes a couple shots to settle down again. Regards, Russ
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Msg. 275326  Posted by Cody Dotter on August 14, 2000 at 18:44:42:

Oh my GOD! Click on the link at the bottom of this post. Look at the FPE if these guns! holy ****!!!

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Msg. 275325  Posted by Penn on August 14, 2000 at 18:42:35:

In Reply to: I like the Sheridan posted by Gary on August 14, 2000 at 18:13:47:

The Sheridan has what appears to be a nicer stock. The butt plate has a larger footprint, and the pump arm wood is longer and nicely contoured.
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Msg. 275324  Posted by Alan in GA on August 14, 2000 at 18:40:52:

In Reply to: Best .177 caliber pellet for killing rats posted by s[i]lencer on August 14, 2000 at 18:09:42:

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Msg. 275323  Posted by matt sudol on August 14, 2000 at 18:26:51:

In Reply to: Re: Best gun for 500 dollars posted by peter huppertz on August 14, 2000 at 18:04:23:

Nope just a "naked gun" no scope , rings , clips , pellets , slings or anything extra just the gun.
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Msg. 275322  Posted by Jeff Guinan on August 14, 2000 at 18:26:34:

Have any of you 160/QB owners ever found a way of getting a globe front sight on the gun - the ones with interchangeable inserts? I love the S331 rear peep, but that front sight is too thick for my type of shooting. Thanks in advance.
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Msg. 275321  Posted by Omer on August 14, 2000 at 18:22:22:

Hello everyone,
I am about to buy the fx2000 and i m desperately waiting 4 the day when i will hold the gun in my hands. :)

Well, i need to satisfy myself more and more :)

The first question is tht how much is the sound of the gun without any silencer? dont know... on a store i saw they were recommending ear headsets. is tht means tht this rifle sounds close to .22 LR or what?

The second is tht -- do ne 1 knows about the ELEY magnum pellet which is just like a .22 LR lead head. so u can imagine the power of tht bullet but have ne one tried it. As far as i remember the factory setting of muzzle energy is 22 ft/lb in .22.

What is the max velocity (in fps plz) u can set in .22 version?

what is the muzzle energy (in ft/lb) of a standard .22 LR rifle?


Okay tht all for now ...........

Thanks for the replies.

Take care and have fun

Bye,
Omer (gremlin_2000@usa.net)

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Msg. 275320  Posted by peter huppertz on August 14, 2000 at 18:18:24:

In Reply to: Better solution!!! posted by John Sa. on August 13, 2000 at 20:39:40:

Cody Dotter, you are being conned. Read the reply John gave to your "OK people, I need your help" question.

You are beyond help. Like John, I give up too.

peter
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Msg. 275319  Posted by Swinson on August 14, 2000 at 18:17:31:

In Reply to: Career 707 posted by Charlie on August 14, 2000 at 18:12:59:

1. Beats me, have no idea
2. That collar... I think you can take it off get some brass pipe (Anthony Sotry knows) and screw it on...it looks swell.
3 Pellets, Golden Toller rules for pellets...very cheap, very fast, very nice guy.
His daily prices are some places sale prices.
That's right a couple of the big catalog places sending flyers just don't even come close to Golden Joe's prices)

Regards,
Craig


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Msg. 275318  Posted by AIRPOWER on August 14, 2000 at 18:15:15:

In Reply to: Re: Tiger Ten Air Rifles In The U.S.A.? Pamona Air Guns posted by AIRPOWER on August 14, 2000 at 18:12:47:


Sorry for the spellinr error.

It's POMONA AIR GUNS

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Msg. 275317  Posted by peter huppertz on August 14, 2000 at 18:14:39:

In Reply to: Need recommendations for position while shooting FT posted by Joe Matusic, MD on August 14, 2000 at 15:03:36:

... the position preferred by the top Brit FT shooters (who usually tug along large beer bellies). The best way to describe it is to show it:

http://http://peterh.www.cistron.nl/~peterh/fts-nl/images/janny-stalker-2.jpg

Note that the right elbow is resting on the right knee for extra stability. The device used to rest the gun on the left knee is a shooting glove, but anything rigid enough would do.

The position you're referring to is probably the sitting overhand position, as pictured in
http://peterh.www.cistron.nl/~peterh/fts-nl/images/peter-match.jpg
right?
(yup, that's me)

That position tends to be harder on shooters with anuuhm whatshamacallit more pronounced presence ;-)

The advantage of the first position is that the heartbeat shows up less in the sight picture. I find the advantage of the overhand position to be that it's easier to really pull yourself into the tripid position stably, which is why I still use it, but for shooters with a pronounced gut, it tends to be a very hard position. Just try the one in the first pic and see if that suits you better.

peter

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Msg. 275316  Posted by Gary on August 14, 2000 at 18:13:47:

In Reply to: Sheridan/Benjamin Gun Question? posted by Sam Co. on August 14, 2000 at 18:01:57:

When hunting generaly the larger caliber would be a better choice. I own a Sheridan, that's a .20. The .20 will have a flatter projectory then the .22 and much more energy than the .177. Of course not as much energy as the .22. If you plan to do longer shots probably the .20. Close in work the .22 would work better. I just like the .20. Good all around caliber. Everyone has their perfs.

Gary
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Msg. 275315  Posted by Swinson on August 14, 2000 at 18:13:31:

In Reply to: Best .177 caliber pellet for killing rats posted by s[i]lencer on August 14, 2000 at 18:09:42:

Exploding pellets are best (JUST KIDDING) I haven't seen that topic in a while.
Depends on how far and how big the rats are as well as the gun. I like flat heads in close. Some say Crow mags but most of my guns shoot them like crap and the temporary wound cavity is smaller on the outset. Domes are good too...again there are more variables then pellet caliber and animal in making an informed decision.


Regards,
Craig
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Msg. 275314  Posted by Charlie on August 14, 2000 at 18:12:59:

Hello All,

Does anyone know where I can get two spare retaining collars
for the Career 707 II? I hogged mine up trying to remove them to
insert the A-Team regulator. Also, there is an adapter assembly
that came on my Career 707 II at the end of the barrel. It appears
that this adapter is for a moderator. I don't want a moderator, but
I scratched this piece up slightly too, and would like a replacement
for looks.

Ray's A-Team regulator works wondefully!! Never thought I'd see such
stable velocities out of a Career!! Worth every penny. Just use the right
tools for removing the retaining collars so that you're not posting on
the forum looking for replacements (Ha! Ha!).

Does anyone know of a good source for the Dae Sung .22 caliber round
nose pellets (29/30 grains)?

Thanks in advance!

Charlie

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Msg. 275313  Posted by AIRPOWER on August 14, 2000 at 18:12:47:

In Reply to: Where can you buy Tiger Ten Air Rifles In The U.S.A.? posted by Jason on August 14, 2000 at 13:05:04:

Give Steve a call, I'm sure he can help you.
Check links this site for tel. #
He does not use E-mail.

BOB

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Msg. 275312  Posted by Stocky on August 14, 2000 at 18:12:44:

In Reply to: Re: Argentine Firecracker.............. posted by Uncle Gary on August 14, 2000 at 17:28:34:


'Fraid I do.

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Msg. 275311  Posted by s[i]lencer on August 14, 2000 at 18:09:42:

Best .177 caliber pellet for killing rats??
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Msg. 275310  Posted by James D. on August 14, 2000 at 18:09:22:

In Reply to: Convincing a mother to buy an airgun update posted by Eli Gratz on August 13, 2000 at 22:19:30:


Buy one yourself and keep it under the mattress until your mother finds it. Boys have been doing
this for century's.
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Msg. 275309  Posted by Mike Pearson on August 14, 2000 at 18:07:30:

In Reply to: gun posted by matt sudol on August 14, 2000 at 15:21:39:


I don't know about the Career Matt but 9mm bullets are .355". --- Mr.P
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Msg. 275308  Posted by Driskill on August 14, 2000 at 18:06:07:

In Reply to: Anschutz 250 posted by John Studt on August 14, 2000 at 14:07:57:

I don't own one, but used to shoot a friend's quite a bit.

The 250 came out in the late 60's and has a fixed barrel, sliding breech, sidelever cocking similar to FWB, etc. The rear of the spring sits on a small disc which is in turn connected to a little piston that is forced through a fluid-filled cylinder when the gun is fired. Thus most recoil is eliminated. When firing the gun there is a curious sensation of light but noticeable vibration that occurs long after the pellet has departed.

My friend's gun was not as strong as my 300. It chrono'd mid-500's with RWS Hobbies which are very light.

Trigger is quite good but IMHO not as good or as adjustable as contemporaries like FWB 300. Gun is harder to cock than the 300 as well, though still easy. Sights are great, you can vary the radius by sliding the front on a short rail which is sort of unusual. Anschutz rear peep is of absolute top quality.

Fit/finish is very nice, walnut usually has a bit more character than the FWB's in my observation. No stock adjustments except vertically sliding buttplate. Two different stock styles were made, the latter version with a deeper forearm that would be better for modern 10 meter work.

I'm not a pricing expert but I have seen them go for a little less than FWB 300 in similar condition. Maybe $400 to $500 for a nice one.

Don't know who works on the things these days. The springs and seals eventually go of course, and the hydraulic cylinders can leak too.

Nice gun, but to me not as desirable as some contemporaries, and would be at a major disadvantage against today's much more ergonomic guns. A good example would be a primo collector's item, though.
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Msg. 275307  Posted by peter huppertz on August 14, 2000 at 18:04:23:

In Reply to: Best gun for 500 dollars posted by matt sudol on August 14, 2000 at 17:49:29:

You'll get a lot of answers, and my WAG (Wild Ass Guess) is that a lot of them will contain the word Career, since this is officially the Career drool spillage forum ;-)

In order to answer your question, I think some of us would like to know a bit more about your requirements. Also, should the $500 include a scope, mounts and accessories?

peter
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Msg. 275306  Posted by Swinson on August 14, 2000 at 18:03:14:

In Reply to: Need recommendations for position while shooting FT posted by Joe Matusic, MD on August 14, 2000 at 15:03:36:

There is always the swinson position, rest it on your gut.

Regards,
Craig
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Msg. 275305  Posted by Chavez on August 14, 2000 at 18:02:42:


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Msg. 275304  Posted by Sam Co. on August 14, 2000 at 18:01:57:

In your opinion which do you think is better?
#1 - Sheridan Blue Streak .20, fps 675
#2 - Benjamin 392 .22, fps 685

What one is more accurate? Which one is better built? And in your experience or opinion, what gun would be more suitable for hunting?
This is alot to answer and I thank all who do!
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Msg. 275303  Posted by peter huppertz on August 14, 2000 at 18:01:53:

In Reply to: The Airgun God come'th to my home. posted by Wayne from Ohio on August 14, 2000 at 07:48:05:

... I wonder what the ZM2002 or the Barnes Nitro Express would be.

hehheh.
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Msg. 275302  Posted by All-American on August 14, 2000 at 18:00:32:


The consequences of gun control.

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Thoughts about the Daisy 1170?


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Msg. 275301  Posted by Feel The Fila on August 14, 2000 at 17:50:11:

Does anyone have thoughts about the Daisy 1170? Good for hunting? Accurate? Well made? Anything?

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Msg. 275300  Posted by matt sudol on August 14, 2000 at 17:49:29:

What would you call the best gun for 500 dollars?
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Msg. 275299  Posted by Cody Dotter on August 14, 2000 at 17:36:29:

In Reply to: Who sells this mini target thrower? posted by Wallace Berry on August 14, 2000 at 17:32:31:

I saw one in a Cabelas catalog. But I can't find the
catalog.:-(
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Msg. 275298  Posted by Uncle Gary on August 14, 2000 at 17:36:03:

In Reply to: Spring tempaccuracy posted by Sid E. on August 14, 2000 at 02:20:29:

I think it's more a matter of the first shot "settling things in", rather than the temperature. A springer that can sit unused for months at a time, and then be picked up and have the first shot precisely strike the point of aim, is greatly to be prized! I know; I've got one like that. But they don't come along that often!
Cheers!
Unc

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Msg. 275297  Posted by Marty Silver Streak on August 14, 2000 at 17:35:29:

In Reply to: Re: The Swift 8-32x-50mm scope is here at Silver Streak..... posted by Anthony Storey on August 14, 2000 at 15:50:06:

Anthony,

The clarity was not razor sharp but not bad, the light gathering was excellent. The rotation of the bell was around 320 degrees from the 10 yard mark to the infinity mark, from 25 to 50 the degree of rotation is about 25 to 30 degrees.

I just did a side by side comparison on clarity between the 669MTA 6-18x-44mm and the 8-32x-50mm and the brightness and clarity on the 8-32 at 32x was as good as the 6-18x at 18x so the glass is definetely very good for this price. Now if they will just get the AO bell and ranging in spec. things would be ok. The target turrets are even workable for FT as most guys make their own wheels that fit over with their range markings, and would be quite doable as is by removing the dust caps and slipping the custom turret on.

So if they will just put the external turrets, and get the AO bell straightened out and the minimum focus down to the correct 10 yards it would be a hell of a scope for the money.

Unless there is something I don't understand about scope design simply allowing more rotation travel on the AO bell should fix the 10 yard focus problem if there is enough rotation left to get to 10 yards. There may be a reason that I am not aware of though. Anthony??

Marty
SSSports

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Msg. 275296  Posted by Cody Dotter on August 14, 2000 at 17:34:55:

How much $$$ is a Air Force Talon used?
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Msg. 275295  Posted by Ron Y. on August 14, 2000 at 17:34:53:

In Reply to: air rifles posted by Mark Bleach on August 13, 2000 at 20:15:58:

Mark:
Sorry, Being from St Louis area I can't help you much about activity in Nebraska. I can tell you this though.
Keep reading the Forum, view Brad Troyer's American Airguns, and try to get your Son interested in 10 Meter. He can go anywere else from there. Eventually maybe even the Olympics.
Start him with a semi match type fun gun, IHZ 61, Marksman Biathlon trainer, get a good Peep sight.
Or, go to a TAU 200 CO2 Mini, or if he's big enough, to a full size. These, with a little encouragement and companionship from you might just make him #1 Target shooter in 2010.
Ron Y.
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Msg. 275294  Posted by Gary on August 14, 2000 at 17:33:56:

In Reply to: Re: FT comp. around Philadelphia Pa. posted by Tom Gaylord on August 14, 2000 at 17:03:18:

Tom,

Thanks for the info. I bookmarked the web site. I am goin to make plans to attend next shoot. I don't know if I will shoot,I'm not that good, but I will set up a few targets and get some practice in. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm 1.5" @ 55yards. That's pretty good shootin. Not sure I can even see that far. ;-}

Gary
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Msg. 275293  Posted by Joe Whittaker on August 14, 2000 at 17:32:56:

In Reply to: Need recommendations for position while shooting FT posted by Joe Matusic, MD on August 14, 2000 at 15:03:36:

Doc Joe
I have the same problem, I think I am getting to a good compromise between comfort and steady. To
start I use one of Rick McAllisters Bumbags(Rick got a bean bag and used the beads from it, works great). I bring my left foot to within 8"to 12" of
the edge of the bag. I lay my right leg kinda flat and hook my right heel around my left boot toe(work on this for comfort). As per suggestions
from Rick and Dave I use a knee pad with velcro on it, a small leather sand bag almost full of rice with velcro on the bottom. I stick the bag on my knee with the U shape a a right angle to the target. I shoot in leather fingerless gloves and lay my left hand in the U of the bag palm up.I shoot a piston gun BTW, then lay the rifle in the palm of my hand with the trigger guard almost touching the heel of my hand. This give me a considerable lift and a solid rest. I bench the rifle the same way bag on bench hand on bag. Hope this helps, us fat boys gotta stick together.

IHS
Joe W.
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Msg. 275292  Posted by Wallace Berry on August 14, 2000 at 17:32:31:

Some time ago, I saw a mini skeet thrower designed to toss "Ritz" type crackers. Anyone know where I can buy one of these? Thanks.
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Msg. 275291  Posted by scot on August 14, 2000 at 17:30:39:

In Reply to: Why would you want to? posted by Fearon Steele on August 14, 2000 at 17:26:13:

The FPE should be BETTER, since I have a larger working volume and will therefore get more effeciency. But that's beside the point. FPS will go down, yes, but I'm wanting to shoot reactive targets that need momentum, not energy. For knocking stuff over, big and slow beats light and fast any day.
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Msg. 275290  Posted by Uncle Gary on August 14, 2000 at 17:28:34:

In Reply to: Argentine Firecracker.............. posted by Stocky on August 14, 2000 at 14:49:13:

Well Stocky, it's funny, and then again it ain't, you know? Regards,
Unc

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Msg. 275289  Posted by Fearon Steele on August 14, 2000 at 17:26:13:

In Reply to: Anyone ever converted a Crosman 357 to .20 or .22 caliber? posted by scot on August 14, 2000 at 17:19:18:

Horrible trajectory, less fps, less fpe at the muzzle, less accurate. Seems like a loose-loose proposition, best to keep it in .177 with light pellets.
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Msg. 275288  Posted by Uncle Gary on August 14, 2000 at 17:25:37:

In Reply to: Summer in Massachusetts posted by Happy Gardener on August 14, 2000 at 07:00:09:

Heh-Heh-Heh! Yep, strange things happen in the heat of summer! Cheers!
Unc

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Msg. 275287  Posted by scot on August 14, 2000 at 17:19:18:

The barrel would be fairly easy to do, but boring out the cylinder could be problematic. I'm not concerned about strength; I can always fill the voids in the bored out clylinder with epoxy to add strength, but what about the air port/cylinder seal? The .177 cylinders have little ridges to hold the pellets in place; are they really needed to hold the pellets in place? I don't think I could replace them, so that could be an issue. Speculations and suggestions are welcom.
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Msg. 275286  Posted by NS Canuck on August 14, 2000 at 17:17:19:

In Reply to: help... izh61 jammed, don't know what to do... posted by dana on August 14, 2000 at 17:11:59:

Try the links on my website concerning the jammed gun. They will instruct you on how to take it apart to fix the problem (I hope).

The IZH 61 is a really easy gun to smith (is that the correct terminology?) and I have taken mine apart at least once so far to replace the spring.

You still have to exercise some caution!

Good Luck!


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Msg. 275284  Posted by dana on August 14, 2000 at 17:11:59:

this is a good one, was shooting izh61 with my daughter and while i was returning the cocking arm back she pulled the trigger. the cocking arm is stuck out at about a 45 deg angle pointing towards the front of the gun. looks like the inner lever that compresses the spring is jammed, almost like it's being forced out of the gun by the spring. any body know what i should do??? thanks - dana
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Msg. 275283  Posted by Swinson on August 14, 2000 at 17:06:11:

In Reply to: more targets and a Q posted by M Boyle on August 14, 2000 at 01:03:19:

The library is the best place...as most of the really good books and abstracts are not really on line. I mean there are some but most of it's really heavy math and a pain to read online


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Craig
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Msg. 275282  Posted by jeroen on August 14, 2000 at 17:05:44:

In Reply to: The Swift 8-32x-50mm scope is here at Silver Streak..... posted by Marty Silver Streak on August 14, 2000 at 14:01:26:

dear martin .No problem here!! if the 6x24-50
is also not aproven by you,
I will wait,untill you think, it is!!

I'm proud to be a customer of YOU!

greetings jeroen
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Msg. 275281  Posted by GF on August 14, 2000 at 17:04:23:

In Reply to: What to do with spent pellets? posted by Dan D on August 14, 2000 at 16:56:23:

You can either melt it down and cast it into the wood or drop them in glue. Doesn't matter if is dirty or not. I give mine away every year. every car needs a couple of ounces of weight.
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Msg. 275280  Posted by Tom Gaylord on August 14, 2000 at 17:03:18:

In Reply to: FT comp. around Philadelphia Pa. posted by Gary on August 14, 2000 at 15:24:19:

Gary,

Our club in Maryland isn't too far. We get several shooters from New York, as well as one shooter from Philly.

Our next regular match is scheduled on Oct 14.

Visit the Aiguun Letter main page - www.airgunletter.com - and go to the Clubs page. See the DIFTA page from there and there's a map, schedule and the most recent match results.

Regards,


Tom Gaylord
The Airgun Letter
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Msg. 275279  Posted by LOU V.K. on August 14, 2000 at 17:02:47:

In Reply to: What to do with spent pellets? posted by Dan D on August 14, 2000 at 16:56:23:

Most gun shops have customers who eithger shoot muzzle loaders, or, cast their own bullets for some of the rather ancient cartridges. A source of relatively dead soft lead will be a Godsend if you are giving it away. Let your local gun shop owner know about what you have. He will surely have someone who will appreciate it.

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Msg. 275278  Posted by peter huppertz on August 14, 2000 at 16:58:53:

In Reply to: The Swift 8-32x-50mm scope is here at Silver Streak..... posted by Marty Silver Streak on August 14, 2000 at 14:01:26:

... and then deal with the problem (the customer) as it would arise, after having already cashed in.

Class act, Marty. Needless to say I'm, um, mildly irritated at the whole situation, but I appreciate the way you deal with this, and I think it's typical of you.

peter


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Msg. 275277  Posted by Dan D on August 14, 2000 at 16:56:23:

So I'm busy plinking away in my backyard, and I find that I've collected a bunch of spent pellets. I have a metal Marksman magnetic self-resetting pellet trap, and I shoot at paper targets inside a cardboard box too, using a phonebook as a backstop to catch the pellets (decent temporary trap until I make a nice wooden one like Doctor Joe has on his website).

I've been tossing the pellets into the Marksman trap, but they're starting to interfere with the action (jamming underneath the counterweights), so I have to empty that out. What can I do with them? Throwing them in the trash just doesn't seem right, ya know, because lead is a hazardous material and stuff....

BTW, I don't cast my own bullets and I don't know anyone who does. ;)

What do you do with yours?

Dan in MA
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Msg. 275276  Posted by Rolo101 on August 14, 2000 at 16:56:01:

In Reply to: RWS 54 goes " Klunk " posted by Bob Miller on August 14, 2000 at 15:21:35:

Bob:
1 soft O ring in front of the forearm block is ok. What probably happened is they did'nt tension the allen screw inside the rear block. This screw provides the tension for the rear bearing to stop the action at the shooting position. Unscrew the rear stock screw, put an allen wrench through the hole and turn the screw 1 turn, if needed more (not sure if 3 or 4 mm, have to check). Check the front stop force by pushing the action forward with your thumb and then backwards again pushing the action back by grasping the muzzle break.
Don't overdo.
Make sure the gun is unloaded before you work on it. take a look at my URL for some further info.

Regards
Roland

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Msg. 275275  Posted by Lou V.K. on August 14, 2000 at 16:53:21:

In Reply to: RWS 54 goes "Klunk " posted by Bob Miller on August 14, 2000 at 15:21:35:

Under the forearm bedding screw is another socket head set screw. Tighten this one, until the action will *just* not move, when the rifle is held muzzle up vertical when the rifle is held by the stock. This will cure your problem, asd reading of the owners manual also would have done.

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Msg. 275274  Posted by GF on August 14, 2000 at 16:48:30:

In Reply to: Update on the two new Swift scopes ... posted by Marty Silver Streak on August 14, 2000 at 09:24:51:

I often shoot in poor lighting conditions. Tell me about poor conditions too. Do they come with sunshades?
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Msg. 275273  Posted by MarkD on August 14, 2000 at 16:42:09:

In Reply to: The Airgun God come'th to my home. posted by Wayne from Ohio on August 14, 2000 at 07:48:05:

He will be too busy burning up pellets he he
Got to love these Careers.
MarkD
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Msg. 275272  Posted by GF on August 14, 2000 at 16:42:05:

In Reply to: Re: First check if Jim wants to perform the 'surgery'.. (probably not!). nt posted by Hans on August 14, 2000 at 16:30:17:

He said he would. He sold it to me.
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Msg. 275271  Posted by GF on August 14, 2000 at 16:40:58:

Although I have never shot FT most of my shots are what I understand are in that range. I hunt pest birds in 4 large hangers and tree rats in the yard. Most shots are in the the 30-40 yard range but I have killed at over 60. Also like to shoot bench at 25 yards or better. Because of shooting indoors (in the hangers) the power needs to be limit to about 16 ft#s to keep from blowing holes in the roof. Obviously it will have to be .177. Most shots are taken from 45 to 60 degrees upward.

The budget is not set but the higher the price the more difficult it will be to sell to purchasing. But If I can justify it I can probably get them to buy me just about anything. (They just spent $13,000 on ultrasonic bird control equipment that doesn't work.) The resultant cost savings to the company from my "work" is recognized as being over $100,000.00 last year. (Love to have a piece of that now wouldn't we.)

I have eliminated all but about 3 pigeons and a few starlings. We get occasion moveins so it is a continueing problem. The birds that are left are getting harder to even get a shot at. Of course starlings are tough anytime as the are constantly moving. Accurate "reach" is important.

I have a TX200 MK4 that is in for repair, and a FWB 300 S match that I am using till it comes back. The FWB is remarkably accurate but has limited "reach". I will not part with the FWB because I occasionaly need the limited power for short range under an awning that I don't want to destroy.

I really like the Nygord pellet as it has been the most accurate round I have fired from any of my air rifles.

When I first start shooting birds in the hangers sometimes I would take 50 or 60 shots in an evening. These days 10 would be a high shot count.

With these things in mind what do you experts recommend for a rifle and or scope upgrade?
Thanks GF
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Msg. 275270  Posted by BSJ on August 14, 2000 at 16:36:01:

In Reply to: gun posted by matt sudol on August 14, 2000 at 15:21:39:

Everybody shoots .355 bullets that I know of.

I don't have one myself so it's second hand knowledge.
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Msg. 275269  Posted by BSJ on August 14, 2000 at 16:30:24:

In Reply to: Re: Interesting Targets posted by Art on August 14, 2000 at 09:10:14:

An Amazing gun. I've had to tweak the trigger some because I didn't have it adjusted right. Other than that, I can't figure out why somebody would need to pay 2K for a FT gun. But maybe I got lucky with mine. I don't know. Mine just puts 'em where I want 'em, even at 55 yards. And where I want 'em is usually pretty small.
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Msg. 275268  Posted by Hans on August 14, 2000 at 16:30:17:

In Reply to: Broken TX200 Mk 4 posted by GF on August 14, 2000 at 16:07:51:

nt
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Msg. 275267  Posted by Cody Dotter on August 14, 2000 at 16:27:35:

In Reply to: Re: Kids and airguns lately posted by Steve on August 14, 2000 at 12:58:16:

I'm a 5th grader. And I'm a semi-good speller.
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Msg. 275266  Posted by Swinson on August 14, 2000 at 16:18:29:

In Reply to: Re: mom gets the kids dad gets the house posted by JS on August 14, 2000 at 08:30:27:

It is the exception. Most courts will still award primary or sole custody to the mother. (sad to say)
You and your son are both lucky people but I bet you knew that already.

Regards,
Craig
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Msg. 275265  Posted by docwells on August 14, 2000 at 16:15:11:

In Reply to: Need recommendations for position while shooting FT posted by Joe Matusic, MD on August 14, 2000 at 15:03:36:

Doc,
Maybe try a FT shooting harness. I've seen them advertised on several websites for around $100 or so. There were a couple of posts (a month ago or so) that said that they really helped with holding steady in the sitting position. There was also a thread that mentioned the use of either cleated shoes (ie soft ball or soccer) or even golf spikes. The responses indicated that both were legal. I don't know if that will help, but I have the same problem with the sitting position with around the same added heft. You might consider some form of regular stretching to limber up a bit also.

HTH,
docwells

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Msg. 275264  Posted by Sammy on August 14, 2000 at 16:08:03:

In Reply to: Re: I will be 16 in two months and I can tell you this, posted by Swinson on August 14, 2000 at 15:56:58:

nt
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Msg. 275263  Posted by GF on August 14, 2000 at 16:07:51:

My TX 200 Mk 4 broke the other day. The trigger will no longer set. I am sending it off to JM to get it fixed and get an accuracy tune. I have had this rifle about 1 & 1/2 years and it has been good for me. I think I have only gone through about 5 or 6 tins of pellets. Should I have expected more before a failure?
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Msg. 275262  Posted by Paul Luhmann on August 14, 2000 at 16:06:48:

In Reply to: A Christmas Story (the movie)........ posted by Troy on August 13, 2000 at 17:46:31:

I think that weas the title... any way it came out on video about one year ago. One of those dark yet funny movies, made in England I think. It has a segment in it were a drug dealer is defending his home with what look s like a BSA???

Like I said great move but a little twisted.
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Msg. 275261  Posted by DaveG on August 14, 2000 at 15:59:54:

In Reply to: Need to get a Tau 7 repaired, please tell me where. posted by Joe Matusic, MD on August 14, 2000 at 14:43:58:

Joe, give Rada at EAP a call, and he'll get you squared away with the TAU. The number is in the resources section...
Good Luck!
DaveG
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Msg. 275260  Posted by Swinson on August 14, 2000 at 15:56:58:

In Reply to: Re: I will be 16 in two months and I can tell you this, posted by Sammy on August 14, 2000 at 13:36:38:

Yeah the old "Go ask your mother, if she says it's ok it's ok with me."

Shows who really runs the roost dontcha think?

Regards,
Craig

PS several of my female friends say that that little game is the father pitting the mother against the father in the child's eyes. "Dad's always the good guy, Mom's always making up the rules...but I think they are vegitarians or Femminazi's or something.
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Msg. 275259  Posted by Swinson on August 14, 2000 at 15:50:54:

Would the guy that is Mark L's friend sned me an e-mail please (I've called numerous times but your phone is always buzy)

To the guy that sold me the gun and included the free 4x scope, Thanks that's a nice little scope.

I had the chance to play with a couple Sten MK I-V varients today (British Machine guns WWII era)
The Talon/Stealth is the Sten MK II of the Airgun world. The Skan is the Mark V equal.

Shooting reactive targets is much more fun than shooting paper, live targets (rats, squirrels, starlings and such) are even more fun (as long as there is a reason to shoot them) because they are random, cunning, and do upredictable things.
Although match shooting, FT, sil. are certainly precision sports, when hunting you've gotta put it all together.


Regards,
Craig
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Msg. 275258  Posted by jason on August 14, 2000 at 15:50:13:

In Reply to: gamo p23 hands down posted by s[i]lencer on August 14, 2000 at 15:29:06:

I know the 23 can only shoot bbs on semi auto, which is more accurate on semi.

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Msg. 275257  Posted by Anthony Storey on August 14, 2000 at 15:50:06:

In Reply to: The Swift 8-32x-50mm scope is here at Silver Streak..... posted by Marty Silver Streak on August 14, 2000 at 14:01:26:


Marty I think Stocky summed up what I would have written if he did not beat me to it. So after that, how does the clarity of the glass at 32x look to you? Sometimes getting a higher(or even lower) powered scope to focus from 30 feet to infinity is not easy to do. Could you tell us about how many degrees you must rotate the front bell to go from 25 to a 50 yard focus? Thanks for your time, sincerely Anthony Storey
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Msg. 275256  Posted by jason on August 14, 2000 at 15:46:01:

In Reply to: gamo p23 hands down posted by s[i]lencer on August 14, 2000 at 15:29:06:

what's the max range on both, and what did you shoot the 23 with, bb's or pellets.
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Msg. 275255  Posted by jj on August 14, 2000 at 15:42:32:

In Reply to: Re: Great post JS! posted by Mike Pearson on August 14, 2000 at 14:57:05:

Someone has just got to explain to me how courts/judges get away with this.

That seems even worst than what I have seen and mentioned in another post in this tread.
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Msg. 275254  Posted by s[i]lencer on August 14, 2000 at 15:36:40:

In Reply to: Choices posted by Jason on August 13, 2000 at 22:31:35:

Yup, lazers are a pain because if there is sunlight the dot because more and more invisible until it si IMPOSSIBLE to see. Also lazers use up power fast and they can be harmful to eyes. Also they are expensive. I recommend buying the p23 version without lazer and then purchasing the daisy electronic point sight. The point sight projects a red dot on a little transparent hud. You then point the red dot at the target. This way, you cna c the dot in any condition. Also, te red dot is MUCH cheaper than a lazer, it does not use as much power, is not harmful to eyes and the daisy EPS does not need any mounts to mount on p23. It fits snuggly in the p23 dovetail (groove in receiver).

Good luck!

si[]lencer
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Msg. 275253  Posted by s[i]lencer on August 14, 2000 at 15:29:06:

In Reply to: Choices posted by Jason on August 13, 2000 at 22:31:35:

I finally got mine and it is awesome! Accuracy is .4" at 10m!!! I average 400 fps with RWS hobby .177 caliber pellets. I have also shot the cp-99 and found it is not very powerful. At max speed it is 340 fps which is quite slow and would limit your plinking fun to 10m MAX. Go with the p23 lazer. =)
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Msg. 275252  Posted by Dan D on August 14, 2000 at 15:27:21:

In Reply to: Re: I don't get it.. posted by HG on August 14, 2000 at 14:00:37:

Ahh, now I get it. Ya know, I've lived in Mass for 19 of my 27 years, and I never hear people talk about facts when it comes to that whole thing....

Dan
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Msg. 275251  Posted by Gary on August 14, 2000 at 15:24:19:

Are there any Field Target competitions around Phil. Pa.? I live in a place called Souderton which is about mid way between Phil. and Allentown Pa. Any shooting groups around?

Thanks

Gary
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Msg. 275250  Posted by matt sudol on August 14, 2000 at 15:21:39:

Now what is the exact diameter of the 9mm career is it .357 , .356 or .355"? Thanks.
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Msg. 275249  Posted by Bob Miller on August 14, 2000 at 15:21:35:

I just unboxed my new mod 54 22 cal. this weekend and shot it about one hundred rounds. When the gun is cocked and ready the action has about 1/16th of back and forth loose motion. when you start to pull the trigger the pull of the trigger moves the action back about 1/16th of an inch, it goes klunk and moves you off target just as the gun is about to shoot. I tried tightening the forarm screws but that didn't help. I removed the forarm.The front screw had 2 steel washers and one soft washer. The rear screw had only 1 steel washer and 1 soft washer. Did they short me 1 washer or is this right. Any help would be appreciated......Bob
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Msg. 275248  Posted by Don Main on August 14, 2000 at 15:15:47:

In Reply to: Re: QB78 muscled up! posted by TedP on August 14, 2000 at 14:16:41:

7.9 gr cpl's and about 40 shots before it drops below 650fps at 85degsF. He told me about 1.6 shots per gram of co2 depending on temp.

Don
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Msg. 275247  Posted by Ralph45 on August 14, 2000 at 15:15:10:

In Reply to: Re: Daisy Model 45, anyone know anything about this gun? posted by Mom T on August 14, 2000 at 13:40:40:

I ahd the same problem. Contacted Daisy by e-mail. They mailed me five or six seals no charge. Good service? You bet!
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Msg. 275246  Posted by Paul Luhmann on August 14, 2000 at 15:14:54:

In Reply to: Beeman S1? posted by Nigel Z. on August 12, 2000 at 16:25:17:

I have one, its not a bad gun, infact its a lot of fun to shoot. The only thing is for the same amount of money you could find something better.

Airgun Express has a great demo and used gun section. Check them out.
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Msg. 275245  Posted by Doug Law on August 14, 2000 at 15:13:43:

In Reply to: You DON " T want the ARH booklet-FWB 124 shop manual! posted by Tom Gaylord on August 14, 2000 at 08:59:24:

Tom -Interesting comments from you on the ARH booklet FWB 124 shop manual. Im interested in it for two fold reasons, I collect his publications and all airgun literature and wanted more info on the 124. I have all your issues of AGL and Airgun Revue 1-6 and enjoy the information a lot. I realize there is b een a chance in how to get mthe most power from an airgun in the last 20 years-filling spring with moly etc. Most of the experienbced shooters in my area use maccari springs and kits and like them very much.
As I recall Beeman used the same method of tuning in those old days of filling spring with moly-weve learened a lot over the years. Thanks for the response.

Doug Law
Nevada Airgun Addict
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Msg. 275244  Posted by Joe Matusic, MD on August 14, 2000 at 15:03:36:

My 40# overwieght body simply cannot get into the position I see Rick McCallister and the others in while shooting FT in the sitting position. I can get there but its very uncomfortable and not conducive to a good shot. I can get my left foot to within about a foot of my buttocks making the angle at the knee about 90 degrees comfortably. In this position with the gun resting on my forearm with my forearm bent the gun is way too low making me bend my neck and right shoulder.

I thought of making a pad to attach to the lower accessory rail to raise the gun up while resting on my knee. At this point I can just about shoot better from the standing 10m position than I can from the sitting position.

Does anyone else have any positions / thoughts / suggestions that could be helpful?

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Msg. 275243  Posted by Howard on August 14, 2000 at 15:01:21:

In Reply to: A Christmas Story (the movie)........ posted by Troy on August 13, 2000 at 17:46:31:


If I recall correctly Peter Weller is a P.I. that defends himself with a Crosman Autoair II. Almost forgot that one.
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Msg. 275242  Posted by Mike Pearson on August 14, 2000 at 14:57:05:

In Reply to: Re: mom gets the kids dad gets the house posted by JS on August 14, 2000 at 08:30:27:


Truth is, stereotyping is pure lazy thinking at best and insulting at worst.

In Michigan, the mother gets the children the vast majority of the time with VERY few exceptions to the rule! It is my understanding that most of the states are like this. I had a friend whose wife decided to leave him for another man (nothing new here right?) and did NOT want the kids. Well, what did the judge, in his infinite wisdom do? He gave the kids to my friend but made my friend sign some legal document stating that he would pay HER the child support anyways! Yeah, you read right! Pay her! My friend said it was either that or the court would have forced her to take the kids (that he wanted along). He wasn't bitter at all (how many of us could say the same in a similar situation?); as he put it, it was the price he had to pay to get the kids. It's been a couple years since I'd seen my friend but the very idea of his raising the kids full-time and still having to pay his cheating, ex-wife still has me shaking my head!
I applaud you for taking care of your kids and teaching how to safely handle guns. We need more of your ilk JS! ---- Mr.P
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Msg. 275241  Posted by john from NY on August 14, 2000 at 14:49:59:

In Reply to: Need Crosman 2100 assemblies scheme. Please Help! posted by Jaster on August 14, 2000 at 14:29:52:

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Msg. 275240  Posted by Stocky on August 14, 2000 at 14:49:13:

In Reply to: Re: I don't get it.. posted by HG on August 14, 2000 at 14:00:37:


Yeh....funny stuff......

Then a couple of years later Wilbur Mills called Ted late one night from a phone booth by the Tidal basin, looking at a soaked Fanny Fox, and said,

"Hey Ted....I got her in the water...
Now what do I do ???"

Politics is far funnier then laugh in!

JMO,

Stocky
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Msg. 275239  Posted by Stocky on August 14, 2000 at 14:44:36:

In Reply to: The Swift 8-32x-50mm scope is here at Silver Streak..... posted by Marty Silver Streak on August 14, 2000 at 14:01:26:

Marty,
Your due dilligence has been nothing short of heroic.
You're honesty is unquestioned.
Swift has a wondeful product in the 6X-18X line.
You personally worked so hard to provide all of us with an exceptional glass at an incredibly reasonable price, and I thank you for your effort.
Sometimes these companies cut corners...and look for deals with manufacturers...and sometimes they hit home runs, and sometimes they don't.
This is absolutely no reflection on you.
I will continuously order product from you with total confidence.
You could have shipped and later blamed it on the manufacturer....
But that ain't you.
Glad I know you.
Regards,
Stocky



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Msg. 275238  Posted by Joe Matusic, MD on August 14, 2000 at 14:43:58:

I bought a used Tau 7 at last years Roanoke airgun show. It wouldn't hold gas at the time, so I tinkered and discovered the hammer spring was set too high. In the process I noted the trigger would go off with barely touching it. A little tinkering later resulted in a lost spring and a non functional gun.

I know I shouldn't have, but tinkerings half the fun. It will need at least one new spring.


Could anyone recommend to quickest / best place to get the gun repaired?

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Msg. 275237  Posted by James L on August 14, 2000 at 14:38:03:

In Reply to: Re: Russ = Not quite true but close posted by Swinson on August 14, 2000 at 12:21:12:

OK so maybe we are a lot closer to a second american revolution than I thought. This will come to a head some day. Hopefully not in my lifetime, but it don't look like we have that much time.
James L
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Msg. 275236  Posted by Mike Pearson on August 14, 2000 at 14:36:45:

In Reply to: Re: And your point is? (nt) posted by Jim Baumann on August 14, 2000 at 11:04:58:


Jim, if you have a bulls-eye on your back, it WON'T be me taking pot-shots! ;) Seriously, I do NOT believe in belittling the sincere efforts of others, even in those cases where I might disagree.

I agree with you about expansion in game. I'll let you in on something though. I don't particularly care about expansion per se. I have seen .177 pellets expand to .24" on perfectly placed double lung shot fox squirrels and do this consistently too with only adequate (by my criteria) results. I have also seen .22 H-Points handle these same squirrels (with little deformation to speak of) in a much faster, much quicker manner. Why? Because the H-Point has had a real propensity for tumbling and it's initial impact area beats the .177's by 35%. Twenty-five caliber pellets do a great job on these animal with no expansion at all.

Now with that said, the good and great stoppers show a difference in damaging ability compared to the adequate and sub-adequate performers. So I'm interested in the damage to the squirrel, not the pellet. The test medium can show me a pretty good picture of how well or poorly a pellet performs IRREGARDLESS of how that pellet came to give that performance (expansion, large caliber, tumbling and yawing, etc.).

Jim, you are one writer whose works I have alot of respect and regard for. Please let us know when your work is out. ----- Take Care, Mike
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Msg. 275235  Posted by Lew on August 14, 2000 at 14:34:43:

In Reply to: Need Crosman 2100 assemblies scheme. Please Help! posted by Jaster on August 14, 2000 at 14:29:52:

Free from Crosman. I just paid for shipping. Cheapest way. They were very helpful and fast even by Postmail.
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Msg. 275234  Posted by steve on August 14, 2000 at 14:30:20:

In Reply to: Re: chamber oils posted by RBest on August 13, 2000 at 20:40:31:

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Msg. 275233  Posted by Jaster on August 14, 2000 at 14:29:52:

I need scheme Crossman 2100.
Please give me link or send to e-mail.
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Msg. 275232  Posted by Mike Pearson on August 14, 2000 at 14:18:40:

In Reply to: Re: Kids and airguns lately posted by Steve on August 14, 2000 at 12:58:16:


Come on Steve! Don't belittle the guy's grammar. You're better than that! ---- Mr.P
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Msg. 275231  Posted by TedP on August 14, 2000 at 14:16:41:

In Reply to: QB78 muscled up! posted by Don Main on August 14, 2000 at 13:58:56:

Don,

On your QB78, what weight .177 pellets are you
shooting at 770 and how many shots per C02 bulb?

Thank you,

TedP
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Msg. 275230  Posted by Mike Pearson on August 14, 2000 at 14:12:22:

In Reply to: The Swift 8-32x-50mm scope is here at Silver Streak..... posted by Marty Silver Streak on August 14, 2000 at 14:01:26:


While certainly dissapointing, I believe the forum memebers would at least appreciate the integrity you've just now shown. When the scopes ARE up to speed, people will remember your honesty and integrity here. They'll KNOW the scopes are good simply because you said so! So even though writing this post was a hard pill to swallow for you (or anyone who has been in that position), I applaud you , Marty, for doing the right thing! --- Mr.P
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Msg. 275229  Posted by John Studt on August 14, 2000 at 14:07:57:

I would like to learn anything I can about this air rifle. Especially the cocking/firing mechanism, trigger characteristics, accuracy, price for a good example and most of all any subjective pos or neg from owners.

Thanks,

John
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Msg. 275228  Posted by DeathDancer on August 14, 2000 at 14:04:43:

Can anyone tell me why I can't log into the Pachmayer website/home page?
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Msg. 275227  Posted by Marty Silver Streak on August 14, 2000 at 14:01:26:

But, they are not worth shipping out. I am really sorry, and for all those that have been waiting on these scopes my aploigies.

The AO bell is not funtional. At 32x the bell reads 14 yards at 35 yards distance. And the scope will not focus down to 10 yards even at 8x.

The closest focus is 25 yards, and there is no correlation to correct distance with the AO bell.

The target turrets are under a dust cap instead of external, and will not reset to zero without loosening a allen screw.

They did do one thing correctly, the sunshade is full sized and even with the outside of the AO bell. The scopes are going back to Swift. I asked that they ship them to me immediately, so nothing was checked out before shipment. I have alerted Bruce Mercer at Swift, and the fix in already in the works. But I also realize that this does not help those that have been waiting on these. The 6-24x50mm arrive tomorrow, I will let everyone know what they are like when they arrive.

My suggestion would be to get another brand if you have been holding off, as I have no idea when the corrected scopes will get here.

This is a matter of the factory not building them to specifications, not the way Swift designed them. The correct specifications were sent to the factory as I had a hand in this, it simply was not followed through.

Once again my apoligies to all that have been waiting on these for your guns.

Marty
SSSports

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Msg. 275226  Posted by HG on August 14, 2000 at 14:00:37:

In Reply to: I don't get it.. posted by Dan D on August 14, 2000 at 12:38:40:

Molly Ivins is a democratic propagandist who would argue that Ted's car was a high energy projectile. This would be her reason for a new gun control initive. "We cannot have high energy projectiles endangering young children". About 25 years ago a state rep. tried using a novel defense during his DWI trial. He claimed that his Shirley Temple drink must have been made with ice cubes containing some form of alcohol. "Bad ice cubes" loom large as a credible defense for inebriated Massachusetts politicians.
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Msg. 275225  Posted by Don Main on August 14, 2000 at 13:58:56:

Got my used QB78 and tried to shoot at some paper targets. Got about 10 shoots and no more. Sent it to CJ and now it is up to about 770 and doing well. He not only fixed the problem but he added his tune up. The most reasonable man I know. If you want to know what he did you can contact him at cjpitts@rapfire.net. He charges $40 and you pay S&H both ways.

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Msg. 275224  Posted by jj on August 14, 2000 at 13:44:11:

In Reply to: Re: times have changed??? posted by Sammy on August 14, 2000 at 13:34:58:

Certainly, attitudes have changed, and I would agree, it is not in a positive way.

Seems just about everything puts the male out of favor. Especially in the media, politics and the courtroom.

I wonder why?


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Msg. 275222  Posted by Mom T on August 14, 2000 at 13:40:40:

In Reply to: Daisy Model 45, anyone know anything about this gun? posted by Jason on August 14, 2000 at 00:22:35:

I had one that I bought back in 1991. It looked and felt pretty good. However, the trigger really stunk and the rear sight was not adjustable. The seal that contacts the CO2 powerlette developed a severe leak after only a month or two of use. Hopefully Daist has improved upon these guns in the last nine years.

Good luck.
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Msg. 275221  Posted by Sammy on August 14, 2000 at 13:36:38:

In Reply to: Re: I will be 16 in two months and I can tell you this, posted by SWAT955 on August 14, 2000 at 13:29:21:

Good point SWAT. I hadn't thought about it like that. But that is kind of how it was when I was a kid a long time ago.
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Msg. 275220  Posted by Sammy on August 14, 2000 at 13:34:58:

In Reply to: times have changed??? posted by jj on August 14, 2000 at 13:19:34:

Well I do think attitudes have changed a lot. But I do agree with you.
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Msg. 275219  Posted by Sammy on August 14, 2000 at 13:32:24:

In Reply to: 2240 barrel posted by Charles Fox on August 14, 2000 at 08:02:48:

Another way is to place it against a table for instance and just pull the barrel downward so that you bump the front sight with the table top. That will usually loosen it and it will slip right off.
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Msg. 275218  Posted by Sammy on August 14, 2000 at 13:29:53:

In Reply to: BSA Scopes? posted by DAN on August 14, 2000 at 13:07:21:

I like the 4x32 BSA scopes. I have owned 2 of them. They are only 44.99 at Cabela's and are airgun rated. However you will find that there are much better quality scopes out there and some of the guys will advise you on those.
But for the money the BSA 4x32 is a good buy in my opinion.
Good luck.
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Msg. 275217  Posted by SWAT955 on August 14, 2000 at 13:29:21:

In Reply to: I will be 16 in two months and I can tell you this, posted by TimH on August 14, 2000 at 12:51:59:

russ: actually generally i have found that the father doesnt care if the boy gets a rifle but the mother almost always opposes it thats why you always hear about just the mom


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Msg. 275216  Posted by Swinson on August 14, 2000 at 13:21:34:

In Reply to: tell me more about the " Spacemen " ! (and my target experiment) posted by Dan D on August 14, 2000 at 11:40:30:

The spacemen were bought at Walmart, about 40 peices per bag and $1.97. They are all grey and come with a car, some small alien crafts, a Saturn style rcket (6 inchecs tall).
At 20 FPE in .22 caliber (30 yards) a solid center mass shot would blast them into many parts.
At 17 FPE in .177 it would do about the same.
Out at 40 yards they would "explode" when hit with .22 and would sometimes explode with .177 at 55 yards they would absorb the hit and sometimes the pellet would be lodged in their body.

The chalk is the funniest though...big poof clouds. BSJ shot one in a tree, it was wedged in pretty tight...nice hole in and big cloud out the back. I followed up with a shot and it vaporized.
BSJ was bringing shots down onto the chalk at 55 yards for most of the day. The thiner the peice is the less satisfying, shooting them straight on at quater the stick length (one stick broken into four parts) was the best. There was enough chalk to make BIG clouds...and the exit patterns of the pellet through chalk are very telling of power.

Regards,
Craig
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Msg. 275215  Posted by jj on August 14, 2000 at 13:19:34:

In Reply to: Re: mom gets the kids dad gets the house posted by Sammy on August 14, 2000 at 12:42:44:

I don't think anything changed, at least not as far as those situations go.
Stuff like this has gone on for centuries.

I seen cases where the father took on the additional responsibility of his wifes excesses (and the results of her "partying" outside the marriage). The Mom didn't leave the marriage, why should she leave a good thing.

When in some cases the father decided he couldn't take anymore and the marriage finally does end in divorce. The courts decide that he is still responsible for ALL the children, even the ones that are not his, since he was so willing to accept the responsibility to begin with.

Personally, I don't think that's right, but perhaps someone can explain it to me. Anyone????

Further, the governments are always out to get the so called "deadbeat dads" and do have things in place for that situation, they do nothing about the "deadbeat or problem mom's".

No doubt, this is due to the idea that the man has always been the bread winner. While this is something that has changed, it does not appear to be to the males benefit.
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Msg. 275214  Posted by Swinson on August 14, 2000 at 13:12:35:

In Reply to: Where can you buy Tiger Ten Air Rifles In The U.S.A.? posted by Jason on August 14, 2000 at 13:05:04:

If you mean a Stalker Tiger Ten, then go here. You might be able to buy them from an individual in the US BUT you can just as well order them from the UK. It's a very simple process. When ordering or buying make sure you calculate the exchange rate. There is no distributor of these rifles in the US at this time.

Regards,
Craig

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Msg. 275213  Posted by DAN on August 14, 2000 at 13:07:21:

I need some imput on BSA scopes. I would be using it for plinking and hunting. Does it come with mounts? Any of these questions would be a grate help. Thanks for your responses.
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Msg. 275212  Posted by Jason on August 14, 2000 at 13:05:04:

I am shoping for a Tiger Ten Air rifle but dont know where to buy,can any one on this forum help
with this information please?
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Msg. 275211  Posted by Steve on August 14, 2000 at 12:58:16:

In Reply to: Re: Kids and airguns lately posted by BUD on August 14, 2000 at 01:59:30:

Hey guys check out Bud's intelligence. A "father is not paying no money". Hmmmmmm not pay no money?? Darn tootin aint there nothin no one can do for nobody. Isn't the plural form of company, companies, or according to the Einstein Bud: "companys". How can somebody have "a 3 jobs a week"?? "How many jobs do a single mother have"??? Poor subject/verb agreement budmeister. It's how many jobs does a single mother have. Honestly, Bud, how old are you? I'm starting to think your a 5th grader. Please tell me you aren't older than that, at least that way I won't feel sorry for you.
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Msg. 275210  Posted by TimH on August 14, 2000 at 12:51:59:

In Reply to: Kids and airguns lately posted by RBest on August 14, 2000 at 00:34:40:

My airgun purchases are not made because of the people on this forum. I was only introduced to airguns on this forum. Their are alot of wonderful people that help me decided which gun is for me, they also help with any problems I might have with a new gun and this I am thankful for. Getting airguns in my family is not a problem. Its the fact that I want alot of guns. And they cost money. I am lucky and have both a mom and a dad that have been together for 25 years. Yes, we all have our fights. My father loves to shoot he understands why I like guns he taught me to love them. Now airguns he doesn't understand to this day he can't see why I spent almost $2000 on airguns in the last 2 years but I still buy them. Like I said I will be 16 in 2 months. With truck insurance coming up which is going to be $720 every 6 months my airgun money is already spent. I have held a job down since I was 14 not to mention school which means I have not really had a summer vaction since I was 13. My parents will basically let me buy anything I want if I am paying for it. They bought my first 3 airguns after I sold 2 of them I can see why they have asked me to buy them myself now. I just hope when I am 30 I will still be able to buy airguns and have a collection like Russ and Craig S do of 60+ some guns. I am not limited to airguns. My father also bought me my first deer rifle. I just sent my Ruger 10\22 target gun away for a $400 upgrade. I am lucky to have such nice caring parents. $Money$ is the main factor in life through my eyes, you can't do anything without it. To all you adults thanks for yuour help us kids still need to be guided through life. Just my thoughts

TimH

TimH
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Msg. 275209  Posted by Sammy on August 14, 2000 at 12:42:44:

In Reply to: Re: mom gets the kids dad gets the house posted by JS on August 14, 2000 at 08:30:27:

I agree with all of your posts JS. I too have witnessed a wife and mother decide to just start partying, find her a new boyfriend, and leave the marriage. But maybe she took the kids and raised them because the courts mandated that or maybe she left them and the father raised them.
I wasn't implying that all of these moms were left by there mean husbands. I am sure that moms left just as often as dads left.
Either way times have changed and people don't look at marriage and having kids like they used to. As you said a lot of times the father is not in the home not by his choice.
Actually somone else started the deadbeat dad garbage. I don't agree with that. I was mainly referring to the fact that dad, for whatever reason, was not in the home (percentage wise) as he was in 1963.
Regards


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Msg. 275208  Posted by Dan D on August 14, 2000 at 12:38:40:

In Reply to: Summer in Massachusetts posted by Happy Gardener on August 14, 2000 at 07:00:09:

Ya had me right up until the last bit there about Molly and gun control and bad ice cubes.

I'm a Mass voter. What's this all about?

BTW, since the majority of this state will blindly vote for Gore, and therefore Bush doesn't stand a chance, I'm voting Libertarian. Probably the best view on guns you'll find in any remotely viable political party. But I don't care who gets the Whitehouse as long as it's not Gore....

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Msg. 275207  Posted by RGunn on August 14, 2000 at 12:26:50:

In Reply to: Re: And your point is? (nt) posted by Jim Baumann on August 14, 2000 at 11:04:58:

I can't wait! Now this is the kind of stuff I really like to read. My mind is racing, wondering what test medium you have used!

Please inform (e-mail) me as to your "work".

If you view my web site you'll see my interest in good, sound info. regarding terminal pellet performace when used in hunting applications.

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Msg. 275206  Posted by Swinson on August 14, 2000 at 12:21:12:

In Reply to: Re: Russ = Not quite true but close posted by james L on August 14, 2000 at 11:53:32:

Ok so you are about 5 years off on your forms, no biggie. Go to Rays Sporting goods, effingers, walmart...heck anywhere in NJ and buy a rifle.
And do you really think the No-No form stays with the dealer? What about the blue book? who gets to look at that?

Regards,
Craig
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Msg. 275205  Posted by WebDrone on August 14, 2000 at 12:12:10:

In Reply to: Re: My new neighbors posted by Swinson on August 10, 2000 at 12:45:06:

If it's a matter of being right or having good relationship with my neighbors, I'll pick the neighbors.

My neighbors are all very tight. We know everyone around us, their kids, their pets. The Dads try to play poker about once a month, to drink beer, discuss issues of national importance, and joke around. It's better protection than... well, you know. We watch ou for each other.

I urge you to make peace with your neighbors, even to be friendly with them. Somehow they know you are shooting, so they can either see you or hear you.

Do you use a metal pellet trap? CLANG? CLANG? Maybe a box of carpet padding solves the whole problem.

Maybe you just need to play it cautious for a few years, and get to be known as a real good guy. Then you can blow up dynamite in your back yard on the 4th of July, and the neighbors all just laugh their asses off and want a turn.

Shooting is a hobby that's supposed to be fun. Feuding with the nieghbors just isn't worth it, not to me. Even if you are perfectly within your rights.

Web
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Msg. 275204  Posted by Douglas on August 14, 2000 at 12:09:39:

In Reply to: Cool Crosman posted by Quack on August 13, 2000 at 20:45:29:

I always thought this gun was a sleeper, I saw a mod where someone attached a cheap camera tripod and was getting exceptional accuracy out to 50 yards using a scope and with a friction "thing" on the barrel it could take rabbits that far with very little noise.
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Msg. 275203  Posted by Flix on August 14, 2000 at 12:04:05:

Has anybody done any modifications to a Crosman 2289 to
improve power or accuracy, besides MAC1?
I'm looking to tinker with the 2289 without dumping
a whole lot of $$$ or send it away to improve it.

thanks.
Flix
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Msg. 275202  Posted by james L on August 14, 2000 at 11:53:32:

In Reply to: Re: Russ = Not quite true but close posted by Swinson on August 14, 2000 at 11:17:44:

Exactly what form are you talking about? the only one I know of with that many parts is the handgun permit which has 4 colored copies one to the dealer(seller) one to the buyer, one to NJSP and one to the buyers local PD. The federal yellow No-NO form as it used to be called is a 4 parter now? That is susposed to STAY with the dealer he is rtequired to keep it for 20 years befour disposing of it most keep em forever. They only go to atf when the dealer surrenders his licence.
This info is about 3 years old as my buddy gave up his FFL when harrasment by atf got on his nerves. he said the hell with it. Only other choice was to start shooting back. wasnt worth the trouble. (how else do you think we went from 300,000 ffl holders to the 77,000 we have now in about 6 years?) the only other form is the certicific of elgibalty which is kept by the dealer as well. I am at a loss as to what form you are refering to with reguards to rifles.
The rest of what I said is correct according to my attorney. Of course you lost the gun they took it from you didnt they? Your parents got it back. they probably would take one from anybody just walking down the street with one uncased. or walking the fields (not private proptery long as you have owners permission)
James L.
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Msg. 275201  Posted by Stocky on August 14, 2000 at 11:44:56:

In Reply to: Re: Summer in Massachusetts posted by M Boyle on August 14, 2000 at 09:50:21:

It's not that funny if you live here....
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Msg. 275200  Posted by Dan D on August 14, 2000 at 11:40:30:

In Reply to: Interesting Targets posted by BSJ on August 14, 2000 at 05:24:40:

Where can I get some of those little guys? What do they look like? How much do they cost for how many?

I have a sawhorse in the backyard I put my targets on. I have a few hooks for hanging strings from so I can tie cans and cd's to it. CD's are fun. Cool looking holes. Also I placed a glass Arizona iced tea bottle in a plastic bag and blasted that. The sound of breaking glass is very satisfying, and there was no mess to clean up!

Dan in MA
QB-88
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Msg. 275199  Posted by jj on August 14, 2000 at 11:28:28:

In Reply to: You ar enot the Lone Ranger... posted by JS on August 14, 2000 at 10:26:59:

There are many people, like myself, who had neither.

I can tell that your situation bothers you a bit and I can understand it. However, all I can say is... if you only knew. Things could have been a lot worse and I don't want to go into it on an open forum.

Like you, I don't blame my father, as I don't believe he was at fault.

Fortunately, I think I turned out well considering and a better person for the experience, but there are others that didn't fare so well.


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Msg. 275198  Posted by tcross on August 14, 2000 at 11:22:34:

In Reply to: Hunting lasers ?... posted by Albert on August 13, 2000 at 17:11:34:

NO WAY,

I equipped a rifle with a laser sight and found it to be awsome fun indoors.

Then I made a Daisy Laser a 1" Aluminum
mounting ring so I could mount one with a
standard 1" scope ring on my Browning Buckmark Target 22 LR Pistol.

Went to an outdoor range with it and found

IF IT NOT QUITE CLOUDY AND DIM

YOU USUALLY CANNOT SEE A LASER OUTDOORS.

If it is dim you can sse the spot.

But like a flashlight outdoors in daylight - the laser would have to be stronger than sunlight for you to see the red dot against something that was already lighted by sunlight.

So I took the Laser off the Indoor rifle and replaced it with a little Tasco Mini Mag Red Dot sight. ($40) I always had a great 35MM tube size Red Dot for the target pistol. ($79).

Walmart has a nice 30MM Tube size Red Dot for $37.50. Red Dots have real click seetings for Windage and Elevation, and give you great and easy sight adjustment.

Lasers DO NOT click stops, but are not too hard to adjust.

Now I have TWO Daisy Laser's I DO NOT USE.

Tom

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Re: NJ state regulations (you guy in other states might want to see this,it could happen to you)


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Msg. 275196  Posted by Bill C. on August 14, 2000 at 11:21:23:

In Reply to: If anybody knows NJ state regulations (regarding airguns)? posted by oleg on August 13, 2000 at 22:33:51:

Air guns are considered firearms in NJ.A firearms ID is required to purchase and transport.You can get a firearms ID from your local police department,fees are (last time I checked)$50 for the fingerprints,$20 for mental health check,$2 for the permit, $73 total.Long gun ID is good for life or untill revoked.A handgun permit is only good for 90 days or one purchase,but extra permits can be applied for when the check is done for an additional $2 per permit.So EVERY time you buy a pistol in NJ add $75 + $15 for Brady + sales tax 6% !!Makes it tough to buy a Crosman.The ID card is required to transport weapons off your property(cased and unloaded).Shops will not allow you to handle a gun in the store unless you can show them a ID card,this is a state regulation.After you submit an application it can take up to 90 days to get a reply,although a good local police dept. may turn it around quicker.Its been this way since 1968 when the gun control act was passed.The only good news is that there is no Brady fee on airgun purchases.

My advice to anyone living in NJ is to get your ID now.It used to be free,governer Jim Florio(Democrat,anti gun)started charging and the fee has gone up alomst every year since.
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Msg. 275194  Posted by Swinson on August 14, 2000 at 11:17:44:

In Reply to: Re: Russ = Not quite true but close posted by James L on August 14, 2000 at 11:03:16:

That form has four parts, one is kept at the dealer, one to customer, one to ATF...hmmmI wonder where the other one goes?
But hey you do what you want or think what you want. Makes no difference to me, as for losing the airgun...my parents had to pick it up, I never lost it.

Regards,
Craig
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Msg. 275193  Posted by Mac1 on August 14, 2000 at 11:10:17:

In Reply to: Career posted by matt sudol on August 14, 2000 at 10:39:16:

The nine is a totally different beast than the .177, .20, .22 & .25. The nine doesn't repeat, it doesn't have power adjustments and it doesn't have a pellet selection. The .25 and .20 work good but the .22 rules. It shoots better than all the calibers.

Later

Tim
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Msg. 275192  Posted by CJ on August 14, 2000 at 11:09:34:

In Reply to: Re: El Gamo 126 Pnuematic Target Rifle posted by MAD DAWG on August 14, 2000 at 01:54:48:

Dasiy won't touch them but you can get a free manual for it just call and they'll send you one.
If it needs fixed get Paul to do it.

CJ



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Msg. 275191  Posted by Tom Gaylord on August 14, 2000 at 11:06:50:

In Reply to: Crosman Challenger 2000 CO-2 3-position Rifle posted by Charlie on August 14, 2000 at 04:54:13:


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Msg. 275190  Posted by Tom Gaylord on August 14, 2000 at 11:05:15:

In Reply to: Crosman Challenger 2000 CO-2 3-position Rifle posted by Charlie on August 14, 2000 at 04:54:13:

Cgarlie,

"The Airgun Letter" tested the Crosman Challenger 2000 in the June 2000 issue. We found it to be an exemplary sporter-class 10-meter rifle that will certainly challenge the current Daisy 853. It has a crisp trigger, a very adjustable stock and the power management was great for a gas rifle this inexpensive. You really can shoot it in all three positions and kids will find it a fresh addition to the 10-meter sport. All in all, the Challenger 2000 is a real winner!

We are now testing the Daisy Avanti 888 which will be Daisy's answer to the Crosman. It is bulk-filled, as opposed to the single powerlet of the Crosman. It is also a three-position rifle, with the addition of an optional accessory rail. We can't wait to report on this one in our November 10-meter special issue.

Hope this helps,

Tom Gaylord
The Airgun Letter
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Msg. 275189  Posted by Jim Baumann on August 14, 2000 at 11:04:58:

In Reply to: Re: And your point is? (nt) posted by Mike Pearson on August 13, 2000 at 19:33:13:

I do agree and as I said I have used the same BENCHMARK, (plummers putty) for some of my own tests; but, I have found real expansion to be more iffy, on game, than anything else.

Anyway, you will all get to the chance to make fun of my "Splattology" tests, when I get the article done. I have no doubt that I will never hear the end of it; but, it was fun doing, anyway.

I will let you all know, when it is on the web; however, it maybe a few weeks; as I have done a number on my back, and doing much of anything is diffcult, at tne moment.

Jim

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Msg. 275188  Posted by James L on August 14, 2000 at 11:03:16:

In Reply to: Re: Russ = Not quite true but close posted by Swinson on August 14, 2000 at 10:07:59:

Craig,
That yellow form you are refering to is a FEDERAL form not a jersey thing. No registration of rifles and shotguns the exception being assult rifles. Transfers between family members MUST be treated like transfers between everybody elas IE: Certificate of elgibality for rifles & shotguns & pistol permits for handguns. The only time transfer of firearms can be done with no paperwork is when firearms are left to a person in a will. They then may be given to the person named with no paperwork wharsoever. The law does NOT require registration of guns purchaced (legally) out of state when you were a resident of that state. Of course if I buy a gun now from a PA dealer or private party it must be shipped to a FFL here in Jersey and a permit must be used to pick it up. there is a volintary registration that they try and push but its not LAW. This was pointed out in a assult rifle case in the early ninty's, state said as you did but law said different(this is a case of law enforcement and DA's wanting the law to be what THEY want instead of what it is. Lastly a kid cought with an airgun will almost always lose it. remember its a firearm in NJ. you having one in the trunk of your car is a different thing altogether. But a fid is always a good thing to have. I just refuse to spend time and effort to buy a airpistol that I would if I was buying a 357 magnum.
The law is clear you can buy it out of state but once you get to NJ it must be treated like any other firearm with requards to transport and shooting(in woods and fields NO airgun hunting in NJ or PA)I have used them for pest control on private property(3 acre yard)Its all spelled out chapter and verse in nappons book complete with statutes.
James L
ps ATF has no jusistiction over airguns.

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Msg. 275187  Posted by Jim Baumann on August 14, 2000 at 10:56:34:

In Reply to: Thanks for your clarification. posted by RGunn on August 13, 2000 at 20:59:41:

N/T

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Msg. 275185  Posted by Marty Silver Streak on August 14, 2000 at 10:47:32:

In Reply to: Career posted by matt sudol on August 14, 2000 at 10:39:16:

Matt,

The speed depends on the weight of the pellet and the power setting you shoot at. As far as accuracy goes the .25 Crow Mag. shoots very well in my Career long rifle out to 70 yards. The Korean domes are very accurate, (less than dime sized groups at 30 yards.) Haven't tried anything else in mine at this point. The 26g Crow Mag shoots over the speed of sound at full power, but I do not have a chrony to tell you the actual speed, of either pellet.

HTH
Marty
SSSports

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Msg. 275184  Posted by matt sudol on August 14, 2000 at 10:39:16:

Well I have heard some bad things about the 9mm so I think I will get the .25 , does anyone know the speed and accuarcy of the pellet?
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Msg. 275183  Posted by Patrick on August 14, 2000 at 10:37:30:

In Reply to: Re: Crosman 357-6 repairs? posted by tommyboy on August 11, 2000 at 19:51:39:

Thanks. That's the kind of response I was looking for. Even with the diagrams and stuff, I like to think my time and sanity are worth more than $17! Do you have any recommendations on how best to ship it? About how long did it take you to get it back? Thanks again.

Patrick
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Msg. 275182  Posted by Michael A on August 14, 2000 at 10:33:27:

In Reply to: Summer in Massachusetts posted by Happy Gardener on August 14, 2000 at 07:00:09:

LOL

Michael
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Msg. 275181  Posted by JS on August 14, 2000 at 10:26:59:

In Reply to: Re: mom gets the kids dad gets the house posted by M Boyle on August 14, 2000 at 09:40:32:

I taught myself to shoot, bought me own BB, pellet, and then cartridge guns. I was lucky I suppose, I was able to do that.
My dad was around on an off from my birth to age 7, then disappeared for 9 years. I only found out much later that it wasn't entirely his choice. He was not allowed to see us.
But even back then, I had several friends in the 60's being raised by their fathers...not their "dead-beat" mothers :-)

All I am trying to get across is there is a tendency to grossly stereotype these things. I've heard way too much from the media about the poor unfortunate mothers (who of course are totally blameless in these situations...NOT!) and we see zip about the fathers who raise their children.
Let's not fall into it here. As the one post mentions, you can clearly see through media hype about gun control and it's effects, why can't you see through media hype about other subjects?
Next I'll be reading how Madonna is a role model.

Jack



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Msg. 275180  Posted by Roy on August 14, 2000 at 10:25:36:

In Reply to: Convincing a mother to buy an airgun update posted by Eli Gratz on August 13, 2000 at 22:19:30:

Last October I picked up a case (5 rifles) of Hercules air rifles. I kept one and gave the others as Christmas gifts. In one case, the mother, didn't want her son to become a "gun nut."

The father kept the Hercules locked up until spring. I then took the entire family on an airgun shooting picnic. Mom wasn't to enthusiastic about the deal but she went along. When she saw how responsibly her son was acting and how much fun all the guys were having, she agreed to take a shot at a Coke can. She hit it, first try. Add one convert to the fold.

See if you can arrange an airgun picnic. Watching properly supervised kids having fun with adults will convnce her. Bet on it.
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Msg. 275179  Posted by Art on August 14, 2000 at 10:25:09:

In Reply to: Splats posted by Dave N on August 13, 2000 at 11:30:35:

If I remember right in the old days before crono's they used a pendulum setup for calculating energy of muzzleloaders. Cannons too I think.


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Msg. 275178  Posted by Tom Gaylord on August 14, 2000 at 10:21:42:

In Reply to: TF99 posted by Dave P on August 13, 2000 at 22:46:32:

Dave,

Nobody has shot a Tech Force 99 yet because they haven't been made. The prototype has been through several iterations since the SHOT Show, and Compasseco isn't going to start production in China until they have it right.

You may have heard about the Maccari-springed TF 97, which the 99 is based on. The 97 is being sold right now and you can get it with a Maccari spring as an option. We haven't tested one with a Maccari spring for "The Airgun Letter," but the standard spring model did do well. Accuracy was improved over the other Chinese rifles we have tested over the years, and velocity was finally up into the 600 f.p.s. realm. From what I have heard, the Maccari spring boosts velocity quite a bit.

We are awaiting the new TF 99 like everyone else, but we don't want it until Compasseco says it's ready to go.

Regards,

Tom Gaylord
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Msg. 275177  Posted by RickK on August 14, 2000 at 10:21:39:

In Reply to: Kids and airguns lately posted by RBest on August 14, 2000 at 00:34:40:

It could be that the kids that are posting are a bit more inteligent than you guys give them credit. They might realize that asking dad is only going to get the "I'll have to discuss it with your mom" responce. So if they go after the hardsell in the first place, geting dad to understand is a piece of cake!
I had a hard time convincing my wife I needed airguns, let alone a 10 to 15 year old convincing there mom. Give the kids a bit of credit about how the modern politics work in their own homes. I know my kids have learned the hard way that if you ask the pushover parent, knowing that the other one will object, all you get is a fight (argument, discussion) between your parents and you dont get what you wanted anyway.
Just mo observtion on kids in my house.
RickK
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Msg. 275176  Posted by Art on August 14, 2000 at 10:16:37:

In Reply to: Jack LaLanne would have sufficed ! nt posted by RBest on August 14, 2000 at 00:29:02:

nt
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Msg. 275175  Posted by N. Bras on August 14, 2000 at 10:14:57:

I wonder if someone has any tips to zero my scope on my theoben taunus. I am a beginner so my shooting abilities are not so very good and so I find it difficult to adjust my scope precisely. Does someone have tips on howe to support the rifle ect?
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Msg. 275174  Posted by Swinson on August 14, 2000 at 10:07:59:

In Reply to: Russ = Not quite true but close posted by James L on August 14, 2000 at 00:20:57:

Do you think that when you purchase a firearm (rifle) and provide an FID that it's not somehow "registered" to you? That big long form with the Yes and no's that you fill out is the defacto registration, your name and address and the gun serial number and description.
NJ also "requires" but it's seldomly enforced, that you register guns transfered between family members, guns purchased out of state, so on and so forth. There is a huge gray area when bringing in airguns from say PA, but I still wouldn't want to get caught with an airgun in NJ. When I was a kid they took it from you and your parrents had to go pick it up and show an FID to get it (mom had to get an FID).

Regards,
Craig
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Msg. 275173  Posted by AAR on August 14, 2000 at 10:05:14:

In Reply to: Re: Techforce 97 or 25? Help!!!!! posted by butch on August 14, 2000 at 02:00:30:

Up to pigeon sized.
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Msg. 275172  Posted by CharlesC on August 14, 2000 at 09:59:13:

In Reply to: Need Help With A Gamo Pistol posted by Tyler on August 14, 2000 at 03:59:22:

Sounds like you may have a Gamo Center pistol, altho your serial number is quite different than mine. My serial number is H59986. I sent an e-mail to El Gamo in Spain awhile back (gamo@gamo.com) inquiring about parts availability. They came back with an exploded view and said they still have some parts and will sell what ever they have to me. Gamo USA is out of the loop because they never sold this pistol. It was also sold by Daisy as the Powerline model 62. That's the one I have and shoot in the pistol POS match over on the Delphi forum. The right grip panel on my pistol is badly cracked. There were also some of these pistols that came with wood grips.
If your pistol is a Center, it's easy to take apart and service. The leather piston seal can be replaced with a 1" diameter one from a hardware store. I got mine from Ace Hardware. There is a hole on top of the reciever that I put a few drops of Beeman chamber oil into every 250 shots to keep the leather seal alive. I'v shot over 3000 shots in mine since I last took it apart.
Good luck and don't dry fire it.
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Msg. 275171  Posted by Art on August 14, 2000 at 09:51:19:

In Reply to: accurate posted by Cody Dotter on August 13, 2000 at 14:17:31:

Check out Golden Troller for a carbine model in .22 caliber. Price is $440
Click on clickable link below for TX200 Carbine.



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Msg. 275170  Posted by M Boyle on August 14, 2000 at 09:50:21:

In Reply to: Summer in Massachusetts posted by Happy Gardener on August 14, 2000 at 07:00:09:

i know nothing of "mass a choochits" but that was funny
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Msg. 275169  Posted by jj on August 14, 2000 at 09:44:06:

In Reply to: Re: mom gets the kids dad gets the house posted by JS on August 14, 2000 at 08:30:27:

They alway write or mention single mom's and irresponsible dad's, but rarely anything is said about single dad's or problem/irresponsible mom's.

Apparently, some folks can see through the single sided media bias when it comes to guns, but not anything else.
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Msg. 275168  Posted by M Boyle on August 14, 2000 at 09:40:32:

In Reply to: Re: mom gets the kids dad gets the house posted by JS on August 14, 2000 at 08:30:27:

jack yes these days there are..as im 37 and mom raised me it was a bit different 60s 70s and part of the 80s..but now many fathers do it..i ment "no" disrepect..only stasticly moms after devorce do more raising then dads..not that dads do no raising ..in my case i never saw my dad til i hit 21 and he happined to call my aunt..
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Way to go Jack, right on! BTW, you beat me to it! :-) nt


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Msg. 275167  Posted by jj on August 14, 2000 at 09:34:47:

In Reply to: Re: Kids and airguns lately posted by notadadyet on August 14, 2000 at 05:23:15:


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Msg. 275166  Posted by Marty Silver Streak on August 14, 2000 at 09:24:51:

The 677M 6-24x50mm and the 678M 8-32x50mm were shipped to me on the 9th and 10th last week, the day after they arrived at Swift. The first shiptment given that UPS does it's job should arrive here at Silver Streak Sports today. And the second shiptment should arrive tomorrow.

UPS does not deliver until late, so the first will go out tomorrow given that they arrive today on time.

I will thourely check out both models tonight after they arrive here and report to everyone later on this forum. Hopefully it will still be light enough to get some outside daylight impressions of clarity and light gathering this evening. Thanks everyone, they have at long last arrived!!

Marty
SSSports

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Msg. 275165  Posted by JS on August 14, 2000 at 09:21:57:

In Reply to: The Airgun God come'th to my home. posted by Wayne from Ohio on August 14, 2000 at 07:48:05:

Wayne,
Sounds like you need to hook up with the CMO sometime. You are near Dublin, right? I'm just off 315 and Bethel Road...not far at all. Drop me an email.

Jack
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Msg. 275164  Posted by Wayne from Ohio on August 14, 2000 at 09:12:55:

In Reply to: Re: The Airgun God come'th to my home. posted by Art on August 14, 2000 at 09:03:47:

The reciever cover is an engraved, flat black finish.

Wayne
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Msg. 275163  Posted by Art on August 14, 2000 at 09:10:14:

In Reply to: Interesting Targets posted by BSJ on August 14, 2000 at 05:24:40:

Accurate rifles & pistols are fun to shoot aren't they.Also some generic brand animal crackers make fun shooting and clean up is needed after your done.Quite a bit larger target however.

How do you like that Pro-Target? At current prices it seems like a real bargain.


Art
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Msg. 275162  Posted by Art on August 14, 2000 at 09:03:47:

In Reply to: The Airgun God come'th to my home. posted by Wayne from Ohio on August 14, 2000 at 07:48:05:

Congrats,
I don't have one but seems like everybody that does is quite happy with them. Is yours one of the new ones with a flat back finish? Is receiver still engraved?
Art
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Msg. 275161  Posted by JKnight on August 14, 2000 at 09:03:22:

This scope is new in box, it has been mounted for 2 weeks then put back in box. I sold the rifle that I had this scope mounted on so now I want to sell the scope. I would just keep it but I already have 3 mounted on different guns so I don't need an extra one laying around. This scope looks brand new you cannot tell it was mounted.

Paid $325 will sell for $265 shipped 3 day fedex.


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You DON " T want the ARH booklet-FWB 124 shop manual!


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Msg. 275160  Posted by Tom Gaylord on August 14, 2000 at 08:59:24:

In Reply to: ARH booklet-FWB 124 shop manual posted by Doug Law on August 14, 2000 at 00:00:47:

Doug,

I have this manual and, except for a nice bit of airgun ephemera, it's worse than useless. If you have "Airgun Revue #1," read about the "tune" I encountered from this manual (starts on page one). A FULL JAR of moly was used to quiet the piston. That was the recommendation from ARH, back then. The manual tells you how to do it and, "…donn't worry, the excess will simply be squeezed out the cocking slot." They used two full ouncces of moly grease!

Believe me, the Maccari spring and seal are the best way to go with the 124. I've tuned several this way and every one was a delight to shoot. My current Beeman 124 that was custom-made for Toshiko Beeman (reported in "Airgun Revue #3") only gets 800 f.p.s. with Premier lites. I usually get 860 with the Maccari stuff.

Get the manual if you must, but treat it as the historical material that it is.

Regards,

Tom Gaylord
The Airgun Letter
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Msg. 275159  Posted by JS on August 14, 2000 at 08:42:45:

In Reply to: Re: Kids and airguns lately posted by BUD on August 14, 2000 at 01:59:30:

I worked full time at my regular job to pay the rent, worked part time delivering pizzas to put my oldest through college, while making sure his younger brother always had what he needed....and made damn sure I was still at the soccer games, school, at home as much as possible, etc.

GIVE ME A FREAKIN' BREAK ON THIS "HORRIBLE DEAD-BEAT FATHERS" CRAP!

My buddy raised his two kids by himself as well and has done a fine job. This is getting to be more and more normal guys....look at the reality, it is not 1963.

Jack

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Msg. 275158  Posted by Mike Pearson on August 14, 2000 at 08:41:19:

In Reply to: Even though I have a Steriod 392 coming,can you give me the link to his page(if he has one),sounds sweet... posted by Josh P. on August 13, 2000 at 23:03:13:


Josh, Jeff is just getting set up on the internet.
Why don't you give him a call in the evening at (517) 362-6949. Tell him Mr.P sent you and then tell him my real name (the one HE knows me by!lol!) ---- Mr.P
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Re: Career 9mm questions


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Msg. 275157  Posted by Mike Pearson on August 14, 2000 at 08:38:10:

In Reply to: Re: Career 9mm questions posted by BSJ on August 14, 2000 at 05:07:17:


That is a good anology BSJ and the .380 load we're talking about would be a mild one. They come loaded by the factory to a 9mm Career level as you mentioned up to levels that are very respectful for a .38 Special. The 9mm Career is about 150 ft.lbs.. In other words, .22 Long Rifle energies with a 9mm bullet and most definitely on the lower spectrum of .380 loads.

This is by no means damning the 9mm of course. It is great for a slew of game and pests but just on the basis of the ballistics' alone, I wouldn't want to use one for coyotes (aside from a well placed brain pan shot) and definitely not for deer. ----- Mr.P
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Re: Entry Level Match Air Rifles Advice Needed


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Msg. 275156  Posted by Phillip Reedy on August 14, 2000 at 08:38:01:

In Reply to: Re: Entry Level Match Air Rifles Advice Needed posted by Mike F on August 14, 2000 at 02:35:34:

Hello Mike,

You're quite welcome. Either of the two German rifles I mentioned would serve you well. There are lots of people who would favor one over the other, but I would take the first one I could find in your price range. I am lucky enough to own one of both models, and I would be hard pressed to tell you which one is better.
One thing that you can do is to check the classifieds section of the American Airguns web site. There you will see a target rifle come up for sale from time to time. Not an everyday occurance, but diligence will pay off. You can also post a want ad there, and maybe someone will part with one of their rifles (not me....;-)).

regards,
Phil Reedy
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Re: The father's fault?


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Msg. 275155  Posted by JS on August 14, 2000 at 08:37:18:

In Reply to: Re: Kids and airguns lately posted by notadadyet on August 14, 2000 at 05:23:15:

Where did you come up with that one?

You cannot say it is one party's fault, when two people are involved in staying together or splitting apart. If one decides to leave, the other can't do much about it. If one leaves and you are stuck with the child, it ain't your fault for rasing the child....right? You act like only the father ever leaves a relationship.

You guys jump off this "it's the father" thing. Look at the reality....or be there, before passing judgement. I am reading a lot of opinion that has not been backed up with experience or even facts.

Jack


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Msg. 275154  Posted by JS on August 14, 2000 at 08:30:27:

In Reply to: Re: Kids and airguns lately posted by M Boyle on August 14, 2000 at 01:08:11:

Hey, watch that stereotyping!

I raised my son while my ex-wife went off partying! And I did not "get the house"!
What I got was the opportunity to raise my son regardless of the *inconvenience*.
And no, this is not the exception. There are a lot of fathers raising their children all by themselves these days...and doing quite well at it!
I also taught my son how to shoot airguns and firearms.

Jack
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Msg. 275153  Posted by ^tg^ on August 14, 2000 at 08:28:47:

In Reply to: 2240 barrel posted by Charles Fox on August 14, 2000 at 08:02:48:

its a plastic push on piece, pull it off......
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2240 barrel


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Msg. 275152  Posted by Charles Fox on August 14, 2000 at 08:02:48:

What is the easiest way of removing the front sight from a Crosman 2240 barrel? Thank in advance.
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Re: Shooting ( olympic games )


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Msg. 275151  Posted by pilkguns on August 14, 2000 at 07:53:06:

In Reply to: Shooting ( olympic games ) posted by Len on August 13, 2000 at 20:16:30:

I will be doing daily updates with photos on my website, during the olympics, that is if I can figure out how to type on an upside computer screen. I do plan some streaming video as well.

As for your other questions, you might check some of the links at

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Msg. 275150  Posted by DougWall on August 14, 2000 at 07:53:00:

In Reply to: Re: How to convince a mother to buy you an airgun posted by Eli on August 13, 2000 at 22:05:05:

Some examples: Basement area with NO chance that anyone can walk into the range. A big yard with NO neighbors in the direction that you're shooting and a good backstop.
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Msg. 275149  Posted by Wayne from Ohio on August 14, 2000 at 07:48:05:

Career 707 rifle in .22 cal.....AMEN

Wayne
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Msg. 275148  Posted by Slug on August 14, 2000 at 07:39:47:

In Reply to: So I'll turn it down to 22 bar... (nt) posted by Marco on August 14, 2000 at 05:05:17:

- Do tell me, how much cocking effort is there to set a RX at 30 Bar? I'm guessing it oughta be somewhere around 80-90 lbs , , , , , - Slug
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Re: Gamo Compact question


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Msg. 275147  Posted by Charlie on August 14, 2000 at 07:37:56:

In Reply to: Re: Gamo Compact question posted by Mike F. on August 14, 2000 at 07:15:56:

Mike, Where is the oiling port for piston seal located and what type oil do you use? Thanks
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Re: It seems like the world


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Msg. 275146  Posted by Mitch on August 14, 2000 at 07:31:54:

In Reply to: Re: It seems like the world posted by bearridge on August 13, 2000 at 22:16:14:

I hope so. Maybe Tim was thinking of Russ' experience when replying to Chasm?
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Re: Gamo Compact question


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Msg. 275145  Posted by Mike F. on August 14, 2000 at 07:15:56:

In Reply to: Gamo Compact question posted by TCooper on August 14, 2000 at 02:07:16:


I bought a left handed Gamo Compact from Great Lakes Airguns when they were first introduced. I don't know what the piston is made of but I believe the seal is an o ring. I have put many thousands of pellets through mine with out a problem. It's also been so long since I've had to make a sight adjustment I can't remember the last time. It's very accurate & the only thing I do is put a drop of oil on the pivot points & piston seal once a year. Mine doesn't have scope grooves --- don't know if the newer ones do. Good luck in your choice.
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Msg. 275144  Posted by Happy Gardener on August 14, 2000 at 07:00:09:

It is not really summer in Hyannis until our senior senator veers the Rosemobile onto a busy sidewalk sending vacationers ducking and t shirts flying. Ten hours later the Globe runs its annual Profiles In Courage Award to the "hero of Poucha Pond" for checking into the Betty Ford Clinic. Twenty four hours later a puff piece written by tootsie Molly Ivins denounces high energy projectiles on public sidewalks and submits a new gun control ballot question with a ban on bad ice cubes for Public Safety.
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Msg. 275143  Posted by Tom B on August 14, 2000 at 07:00:06:

In Reply to: Re: Cool Crosman posted by Quack on August 13, 2000 at 21:36:38:

Paul im not sure as Jeff is a friend and I know he is cutting me some slack I told him I would be up in 3 weeks so I'll let ya know more about it then sorry for not being much help but like Mike said the gun when gone through trigger tuned and seal worked on is one heck of a shooter and Jeff works on them untill he finds a barrel that the rest of the gun likes not to mention cutting it down and recrowning also.
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Msg. 275142  Posted by Quack on August 14, 2000 at 06:57:19:

In Reply to: Even though I have a Steriod 392 coming,can you give me the link to his page(if he has one),sounds sweet... posted by Josh P. on August 13, 2000 at 23:03:13:

Josh, I don't think he has a web site. I asked him if he frequented The Airgun Forum and he said no. I could be wrong though.
Paul in MI
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Msg. 275141  Posted by trevor on August 14, 2000 at 06:37:36:

In Reply to: Dare Devil Dinkum posted by Dave B on August 14, 2000 at 03:38:52:

Belgium?
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Msg. 275140  Posted by Kevin F W on August 14, 2000 at 06:05:38:

In Reply to: Re: Ripoff Artist posted by M Boyle on August 14, 2000 at 05:45:46:

I'm wondering though how you were ripped off.

Any details?

'Kiwi' Kev
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Msg. 275139  Posted by M Boyle on August 14, 2000 at 05:50:52:

In Reply to: Spring tempaccuracy posted by Sid E. on August 14, 2000 at 02:20:29:

sid it couldbe more you then the gun..the body starts knowing a gun..the rest may mess this up..that said i think its a change in the seal not the spring..the spring doesnt really warm up but the seal with direct contact with the air in the chamber when fired should heat up some
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