In Reply to: Re: Sheridan rifles posted by John Sa. on September 01, 2000 at 03:52:16:
im sorry if i had shown myself to have an Anti-American aproach, I love your country and it has everything going for it. I only started this argument when someone said "a little reminder on why we had the revolution" regarding the ft/lbs limit on air rifles in the uk. Also guese where the underground criminals and the I.R.A get their fire arms from, yep you got it the majority are imported / stolen what ever from the USA. What's done is done but i was just saying basically, If you American folk had adopted much stricter gun laws where they were far less redily available, perhaps the gun problems wouldn'e be so bad over here in the UK. I have my doubts that any uk criminal would do a deal with the Russia or Israel. I have all confidence that this post will be mocked relentlessly because of your attitude to not exept anyone elses beleifs. Even if they are wrong.
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In Reply to: Pogo pays a visit (and almost made his own post here!) posted by RBest on August 29, 2000 at 00:17:07:
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In Reply to: I hope you US airgun fans keep watching the UK.... posted by Rob M on August 31, 2000 at 08:38:29:
That would make a great concept for a Brit TV series. The show could follow the heroic work of a special branch of Scotland Yard, Her Majesty's Special Anti-Pneumatic Crimes Unit. They could face untold dangers and have lots of adventures ferreting out desperate clandestine bands of degenerate airgunners.
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In Reply to: Re: did i actually say gun controlle works?? posted by The American on September 01, 2000 at 01:01:22:
hmm, ok im quite impressed with some of the responces ive been having over this topic. Also you have confirmed my beleif that i have aquired over my years of experience with you lot. And the experiences of many others i know that americans have adopted the " WE ARE RIGHT AND EVERY ONE ELSE IS WRONG ATTITUDE" you are never willing to exept someone elses opinion. And just say ok fair enough he/she thinks that well i don't agree with him but i respect his beleifs. No you guys just arn't satisfies intill someone is brought round to your way of thinking. I'm not scared of anyone weilding a gun in my face, Ive never seen anything like that happen to any one during my entire life, so no i don't sleep next to a loaded gun, I have numerous air rifles none above 12 ft/lbs which are kept in a secure place.
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In Reply to: Re: Mad at PETA... posted by Andrew on August 29, 2000 at 17:10:03:
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In Reply to: Re: Sheridan rifles posted by Revolution on August 31, 2000 at 05:04:26:
I guess you haven't seen the latest statistics. Seems your government has been cooking the books to make it look like crime is less of a problem than it is. Keep an eye out--pressure from various groups is forcing them to adopt a reporting method much more like the U.S. the increase should be spectacular.
In a nutshell, the U.S. reports murders based on police reports and arrests. The U.K. has, up to now, only reported murders if an actual first degree murder conviction was obtained.
One more thing--even with the old reporting methods, the numbers are on the rise--you should catch us in a few years. I wonder what you will hate Americans for then?
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In Reply to: R10 - 990fps average with Silver Bears posted by jcbii on September 01, 2000 at 01:02:00:
sounds good to me if its not smokin\dieseling..it rare to see the retail speeds for real. R10 was said to be a gun that hits 1000fps in 177 ..the ad said it anyway
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In Reply to: 1322C pump neglected Why? posted by Douglas on August 30, 2000 at 14:29:20:
Have a newer 1377 and had a 1322 about 25 years ago. Both very good buys. No springs to break and no C02 to buy to push costs up. Unless you are using them for formal target shooting, pumping shouldn't be a terrible burden, for a healthly non-feeble adult.
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In Reply to: Libertarian party! posted by Dan in MA on August 31, 2000 at 13:54:31:
Here are a couple of rather exhaustive discussions of the topic at hand--or, perhaps exhausting.
http://assaultweb.net/ubb/Forum1/HTML/001174.html
http://assaultweb.net/ubb/Forum1/HTML/001147.html
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In Reply to: Re: Peter please help. Look inside. posted by peter huppertz on August 31, 2000 at 15:11:37:
Peter,
It had to be an RWS 52 or 54.
What else could it have possibly been?
Why are you trying to lead Cody astray by tempting him away from the airgun of his dreams?
Some people can be so cruel.
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In Reply to: Boo hoo! posted by Russ Best on August 31, 2000 at 20:14:37:
Russ
We got early daylight saveings time, thanks to the Olympics. It's 1840 here and starting to get dark.
Still dark in the mornings at 0700.
daisy
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In Reply to: R10 - 990fps average with Silver Bears posted by jcbii on September 01, 2000 at 01:02:00:
Yours is a little faster than mine was--as I recall, I got about 970 with the Beeman Laser (whatever the lightest 6.5 gr. pellet was called) before my spring broke the first time.
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In Reply to: For INTERNAL use only! posted by John Sa. on August 30, 2000 at 03:48:42:
That could smart if it happened to a tick in your shorts.
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In Reply to: Re: Incredible Story posted by Sloop on August 31, 2000 at 22:58:18:
Sloop,
No PCP yet, but it moved up one notch on the priority list today. I will be sending the gentleman in Canada some money once I receive his name and address. I am very grateful.
chasm
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Can someone help me from the U.K.?
are there any readers in the Lancaster,Lancashire area? I am trying to get in contact with a supplier in this area and they are not responding.
I don't know if they are getting my e-mail or not!
They have some hunting items I sure would like to get hold of. I would just like to know if they want to do business or not??? Thanks,Billy,Ca.
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In Reply to: Incredible Story posted by chasm on August 31, 2000 at 22:15:05:
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In Reply to: Re: Cheap peep 4 B22 posted by Lon on September 01, 2000 at 02:02:57:
I exchanged Email about using #5899 on TSA-B22,
he said 'many like it', he likes a more exp. one.
Tell him I sent you ;)
Email 'Joe' about your particular model.
his addr is at top of his price-page.
www.GoldenToller.FreeYellow.com
Quoted from the web-site.
DAISY #5899 Micrometer rear peep sight. Used on M-853 adaptable to other rifles including IZH-60/61
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In Reply to: what is best rifle between 150-300 dollars? posted by michael on August 31, 2000 at 20:24:17:
R9 of course. Maybe get the blue laminate version.
-MArk
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In Reply to: Who sells MAX mounts in US? (nt) posted by Vlad B on August 31, 2000 at 17:31:56:
E.A.P. has them. 480-858-9564
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In Reply to: Re: Cheap peep 4 B22 posted by Lon on September 01, 2000 at 02:02:57:
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In Reply to: Re: Cheap peep 4 B22 posted by arlin on September 01, 2000 at 01:42:31:
U sure it has dove tail mount? If it be, it be the one! TIA
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In Reply to: Re: Cheap peep 4 B22 posted by arlin on September 01, 2000 at 01:42:31:
U sure it has dove tail mount? If it be, it be the one! TIA
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In Reply to: Re: Cheap peep 4 B22 posted by arlin on September 01, 2000 at 01:42:31:
U sure it has dove tail mount? If it be, it be the one! TIA
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In Reply to: Cheap cheap cheap posted by Lon on September 01, 2000 at 01:30:46:
I'm ordering one from GoldenToller.FreeYellow.com
"it's a Daisy" for $22. for my TSA-B22
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Did I miss the post that explained this or is everyone missing a line of text on some of the posts?
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Don't let your trigger fingers get itchy, I just want to know! Where can I get a cheap dove tail aperture site for my cheap chinese rifle?
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In Reply to: I own a HW45 (.22cal) in Canada posted by Fearon Steele on August 31, 2000 at 21:50:58:
Fearon, thanks for the response, I'll try the hobbies. Also, in the RWS lineup, I notice the field points are 11.7 grain (according to the Cabelas Fall & Winter 2000 catalogue), so I'll try them too. I figured, all things being equal, that light is the way to go. Yes, my gun is new and is still smoking like crazy, but I've only shot 250 CPs so far. It's a lovely gun, I really like the rear sight,long sight radius, the trigger and the balance. The size and weight doesn't bother me at all. However, I find the shrouded barrel with various rough edges makes cocking a bit uncomfortable after awhile. My Tempest has the edge in this regard. Thanks again, Regards, Pete.
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In Reply to: Air Gun Targets? posted by Bob Miller on August 29, 2000 at 23:56:34:
Thanks for the help.
Bob
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In Reply to: Re: (new) Chrony... posted by Sammy on August 31, 2000 at 13:10:56:
Sammy,
I just experienced the problem you were having with your CO2 guns. Except I was using a Marksman Biathlon that was deiseling something terrible. I stepped back a few feet and got good readings. Man does that thing smoke! (literally of course - ha)
jcbii
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In Reply to: Good pistol posted by Albert on August 31, 2000 at 20:35:12:
How about the B/S pump pistols? They come in .177, .20, and .22cal.
I sent my sheridan H20PB into Mac1 for trigger tune and shoe. Guess it would go over your $100.00 max price, but I can't help but think it is going to be a nice little varmit eliminator.
jcbii
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This is what I am registering on my Chrony. Does this sound normal? Also, am averaging 935fps with CPLs.
jcbii
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In Reply to: did i actually say gun controlle works?? posted by revolution on August 31, 2000 at 10:20:53:
Begging your pardon Mr. Revolution, the next time you write in reference to our great land, ensure you capitalize " U.S.A.". I can practically figure that you are such a coward and afraid of your own shadow that you sleep not far from a loaded weapon. You probably have alot of weapons to protect yourself with and don't want anyone else to have weapons because you need to feel secure, and, hiding under your blanket just isn't good enough. You probably even have loony, and, imprisoned family members as well. Creep! You'll want to outlaw my bare feet if you ever seen 'em in action! Now I'm starting to get mad, stooping to your level. Whoa?! Did you hear that?! you better go check it out! I Hope I don't hear or see of you again. Can't stand barfing. Sign me as; Glad to be on the American side.
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In Reply to: Scope fit on R9 posted by bcd on August 31, 2000 at 22:02:59:
Thanks for the input. I figured it would be a
tough call on normal vs. high mounts for the 40mm
critters. Probably just bite the bullet and use
high if I go with 50mm.
I know this depends on the total setup, but roughly
how close is the objective to the breech when the
barrel is open?
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In Reply to: Re: ok thanks, i was thinking about the r1 posted by Bill Warren on August 31, 2000 at 23:47:34:
Well that's definitely the best price I have heard of as yet. If they are sold out at AAA Sporting Goods though, you can get them at FSI for $239.86, but I am sure other places can match that price. Sounds like AAA has got a super deal going!!
jcbii
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In Reply to: Seeking recommendations for youth target pistol for 10 yr. old boy... posted by Ray Pyke on August 31, 2000 at 20:25:13:
Look at the Crossman 2240. Available at the local Wal-Mart for $39.96..
Mike
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In Reply to: Can I make a barrel change on my Crosman? posted by Tyler on September 01, 2000 at 00:24:33:
TY that pos isnt worth buying a new barrel a new barrel will cost more then the air 17 cost but maybe Mac -1 could do it..youd end up getting a barrel from him anyway..trying to turn a mod -T into a hotrod isnt cost effective. btw i had one of those plastic bb guns
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In Reply to: Good pistol posted by Albert on August 31, 2000 at 20:35:12:
I would suggest the 2240 or if you don't like the cost of CO2 the 1322. The 2240 is very accurate to 15m and a tuned one can be had in Canada. Contact me at my e-mail if interested.
Later Whitewolf
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In Reply to: Boo hoo! posted by Russ Best on August 31, 2000 at 20:14:37:
while it's still light you do pass by the crow fly-way on the way home..
right?..a boid in hand is worth none at home..or sumth'n like that..
CAW!CAW!
GH
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I have an old AIR 17 and was wondering if I could switch the smooth bore barrel with a rifled one. Is this possible? I have noticed most Crosman single pump pnuematics follow the same generic design. So the thought came to mind if I cold switch barrels. If so where could I get one? How much do they cost? Any advice?
Thanks
Tyler
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In Reply to: You just struck a nerve.... posted by Willey M on August 30, 2000 at 02:28:33:
lol, yer nuts man..nuts..but im a knive nut so we're both nuts..he emailed me a scanning..the thing looks painful..
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In Reply to: Hmmm,I didnt know woodchucks were edible.Anyway,does anybody know a simple way to tan rabbits hides?Thanks(nt) posted by Josh P. on August 31, 2000 at 22:20:57:
soak hide in a mixture of 1 gal hot (not boiling but hot) water and two cups pickleing salt completely disolved. Stir hide well and let sit for at least 16 hours. Applies for woodchucks muskrat and beaver (heavier hides than squirrel or rabbit about 8 hr soak. Once hide has soaked wring out like floor ray (he he) but really let air dry until hide starts to dry. Then rub in a mixture of 40% borax and 60% curing salt into finely scrapped hide. roll when done let stand for 24 hrs then rince throughly out in COLD water. ring out again and set out to dry. When hide is starting to get hard start rubbing in mink oil or dubbin saddle soap or any kind of leather conditioner that is in paste form. Let stand 24 hrs in between at least three coats of conditioner. The you will have a soft pliable hide to work with. Other wise spend the extra money and have a tannery or taxidermist do it for you. It does in volve a lot of work but the personnal results are well worth it. Tip to help use a plastic type wooden spoon (you know the type MOM would use once in a while (still remember the last one when I was about 8 he he) use this to scrap any meat or fat from the hide its sharp enough to cut the fat or meat off but not the hide.
Later Whitewolf
PS or you can always piss on it (not a joke) some native tribe used to tan hides this way REALLY
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In Reply to: Incredible Story posted by chasm on August 31, 2000 at 22:15:05:
tell us the gentleman from Quebec is an airgunner!!!!
or at least a Sportsman...
GH
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In Reply to: Scope fit on R9 posted by bcd on August 31, 2000 at 22:02:59:
No problem with the Bushnell 40mm objective on the R9. I don't know about the swift, never tried one. I have 4-12x40 Trophy scopes on all of my rifles and all in medium (low) mounts. They fit just fine, but you may have to notch your scope covers, but the scopes fit fine.
HTH
Bill
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In Reply to: Another good thing to do with Golf gear.nt posted by Joe Whittaker on August 31, 2000 at 12:19:08:
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In Reply to: Boo hoo! posted by Russ Best on August 31, 2000 at 20:14:37:
I am sure you could come up with some flashlight mounts, maybe a pop bottle on the muzzle. Or a large light in the backyard. I dont think the flashlight is illegal if you aren't shooting game.
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In Reply to: so the P1+P3 both cocks/charges the same way?? posted by steve on August 31, 2000 at 21:43:45:
Basically yes, except that the P1 cocks on the opening stroke, and the P3 'cocks' on the closing stroke. Being a pneumatic, the P3 is compressing air and therefore does so on the downward stroke of the "over lever" or top of the slide, whereas the P1 , being a spring piston design, utilizes the pulling stroke of the lever (slide) to compress the spring -- similar to the action of a break barrel rifle.
HTH
Bill
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In Reply to: ok thanks, i was thinking about the r1 posted by michael on August 31, 2000 at 23:03:19:
AAA Sporting Goods has the .177 cal R9 on sale right now for $219.95!! Better get one quick before they are out of them. That is the best price I have seen on an R9 in a few years.
In Reply to: Re: Careers Rule !!!!!!! posted by thom on August 31, 2000 at 22:43:12:
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In Reply to: Re: Full auto BB gun posted by Bon Miller on August 23, 2000 at 16:58:32:
if they use freon i guess it would be easier and less illegal to just get a class 3 firearms license and get a real gun!!!
lol
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In Reply to: Re: RWS Model 45....... posted by brad on August 31, 2000 at 23:17:41:
Too steep for me. Most all my guns are under $100.00. Just thought someone might be interested. Later. SSlick
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In Reply to: RWS Model 45....... posted by Simon Slick on August 31, 2000 at 22:52:32:
are you going to buy one?
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In Reply to: Re: Help identify German airpistol posted by Al on August 31, 2000 at 09:07:53:
Al,I think you might be referring to the EM GE LP3 and LP3A pistols-they are not Record guns.
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In Reply to: It has the phone # for a guy named Fred Liady(maybe he's in charge of giving out directions?)I've already wrote it down.So here ya go... posted by Josh P. on August 31, 2000 at 22:51:27:
Fred l. has one of the most diverse collections I have ever seen!!Big time, I mean really big!!! Be ready to be impressed!!
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In Reply to: It has the phone # for a guy named Fred Liady(maybe he's in charge of giving out directions?)I've already wrote it down.So here ya go... posted by Josh P. on August 31, 2000 at 22:51:27:
Fred l. has one of the most diverse collections I have ever seen!!Big time, I mean really big!!! Be ready to be impressed!!
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In Reply to: Like I said before... posted by Doc on August 30, 2000 at 18:45:21:
Doc, if you think I-Gore invented the internet or Love story was about his life. vote for him. i dont voted for guys can cant lie better. btw "A Dragon eat my homework" Duh and when kid turn 65 or become disabled they can have medicare
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In Reply to: Re: what is best rifle between 150-300 dollars? posted by jcbii on August 31, 2000 at 22:53:54:
i looked on the beeman site and the r9 is listed at 320 but the r7 at like 280 i think, where can you get an r9 for 240?
but i didnt know that germany made good air rifles, i did know that they make the world's best submachineguns, and semi auto sniper rifles though so i guess it figures.
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In Reply to: Boo hoo! posted by Russ Best on August 31, 2000 at 20:14:37:
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In Reply to: Incredible Story posted by chasm on August 31, 2000 at 22:15:05:
Chasm:
You got good karma!!! Or is it good ju ju? Anyway, nice story.
Did you go pcp yet?
Sloop
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In Reply to: Re: Careers Rule !!!!!!! posted by thom on August 31, 2000 at 22:43:12:
but i dont chase women too often and i cant drive yet! i had a job but now i spend mostof my time training myself to join the navy and become a seal,then its time to drive nice cars and chase women, but for now i spend all of my time doing one of the following.
a)running
b)swimming
or c) shooting my lowely beeman gt600 which i paid more than retail for :(
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In Reply to: Re: Careers Rule !!!!!!! posted by michael on August 31, 2000 at 22:32:14:
18 isn't a kid anymore. Do you have a job? Regards, RB
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In Reply to: Re: what is best rifle between 150-300 dollars? posted by michael on August 31, 2000 at 22:35:52:
You can get the R9 for around $240.00. It's german made, so fit/finish is much better than the Spanish guns. Also, my experience is that the German made guns are easier to be accurate with. (Example - couldn't come close to my R10 with my S1 in terms of accuracy: R10 is made in Germany, S1 is made in Spain - just an observation).
In addition, the R9 has many tune kits/options available for it. One of the most popular springers around, and for good reason. I also have the R7 and think it is a great gun to shoot, and its extremely accurate.
regards,
jcbii
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In Reply to: Re: Who here is going to the Roanoke show?Hey Russ,are you coming?!... posted by RBest on August 31, 2000 at 22:49:21:
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20th Anniversary Commemorative Model is for sale at Sportsguide (Fall Shooters Catalog) for $249.97. Only 300 available. SSlick
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In Reply to: Re: The show is October 27th and 28th and the AGL homepage has the rest of the info.(nt) posted by thom on August 31, 2000 at 22:48:41:
10th International Airgun Expo
Roanoke,VA
October 27th-28th
Fred Liady
540-344-1677
HTH-Josh P.
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In Reply to: Who here is going to the Roanoke show?Hey Russ,are you coming?!... posted by Josh P. on August 31, 2000 at 22:24:09:
Josh: I won't be going. Takes too long to get there. RB
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In Reply to: The show is October 27th and 28th and the AGL homepage has the rest of the info.(nt) posted by Josh P. on August 31, 2000 at 22:38:30:
I couldn't find anything more than the dates on the AGL. do you have the URL?
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In Reply to: Re: Superdomes? posted by Roland Martens on August 31, 2000 at 21:33:12:
Roland,
They might be "gun" sensitive, as they worked really well in my Beeman S1 (alot better than CPL's) for accuracy. That was until I discovered FTS, which had the best overall accuracy in any gun I have tried. I haven't tested them for accuracy at any decent range with my Vulcan yet, but I have a feeling they will come out on top. Eley's win in this gun for best fps & M.E. though.
jcbii
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In Reply to: NIGHT FORCE SCOPES Who sells them??? posted by Troy on August 30, 2000 at 17:40:03:
there is a link but they havnt sold the FT mod for some time..id look on Brads airgun ads site for a used ft 36x
In Reply to: Re: Careers Rule !!!!!!! posted by michael on August 31, 2000 at 22:32:14:
Michael, When I was 18 I had a job and spent all my $ on cars and girls. I never had enough $ to do much about shooting, but i used my dads shotgun. If your working, and can save some each week you will be surprized how soon you can get a nice gun. even a career ($75 a week for two months will get you every thig you need to shoot one)
now can you handle that? Or will you be like me and keep messing with cars a nd girls (BTW if you prefer the girls and cars at your age your in company with most of us here lol)
thom
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In Reply to: is this gun any good? posted by michael on August 31, 2000 at 00:09:04:
you need to fix the url ..you might test it before leaving
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In Reply to: Re: BSJ, I guess $8 or $9 per gal. gas would have been good for the USA. I think we would have had massive riots, food, labor etc. posted by BSJ on August 31, 2000 at 20:37:39:
and sending others (south American) will have to
keep committments from previous dealings which
means some countries will have to pump more and
they don't have that ability. Yes we have 18 to 20
billion bls. in Alaska but thank the tree huggers
for not being able to pump more out and the higher
taxes on that being briught up from out own lands.
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In Reply to: Re: Who here is going to the Roanoke show?Hey Russ,are you coming?!... posted by thom on August 31, 2000 at 22:25:47:
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In Reply to: Good pistol posted by Albert on August 31, 2000 at 20:35:12:
I have shot rabbit, and other yard psest and killed same with my crosman1377. it is for sale. has iron sight/peep, and I have shot 20 yards in the back yard with 8 pumps and killed a rabbit. killed a rabbit with 5 pumps at 10 yards too. it is quite accurate. pump to 2-3 for indoor, 10 for 20 yd kills. It is to be found @
http://www.gunbroker.com/auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=492148
thom
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In Reply to: Re: what is best rifle between 150-300 dollars? posted by Gary on August 31, 2000 at 21:41:00:
yea but isnt the r9 more like 500 dollars?
also i already own a gt-600 how much better are the r7 and r9 rifles?
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In Reply to: clarification posted by mikey on August 31, 2000 at 14:05:48:
how is this coiled cord secured? im not clear. i just used foam rubber like is used for the beer\coke can holders cut to size, with a paper punch put small holes in it and use velcro to secure to gun
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In Reply to: Careers Rule !!!!!!! posted by RBest on August 31, 2000 at 20:26:57:
you know its really frustrating when you all brag about your fancy air rifles when i'm just a kid(18) and i am too poor to get one of my own!!!
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In Reply to: My local Wal-Mart now has Gamo P-23's. posted by BSJ on August 31, 2000 at 21:16:04:
hey first off thanks for calling teens idiots. i thought i deserved a little more credit than that. and secind i have heard many good thing about the p-23 and its accuracy but i havent shot it myself. i will however advise you against getting anything from walmart because i bought thier marksman gun with the wooden stock and returned it twice because it was broken out of the box and then finally took my money elsewhere and got a beeman.
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In Reply to: Who here is going to the Roanoke show?Hey Russ,are you coming?!... posted by Josh P. on August 31, 2000 at 22:24:09:
when is the show? and who can give me direction from Ohio?
thom
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pleeeeeeeease???
Anyway,who's coming to the show?I'll be there.I hope I get to meet a bunch of you there.
Josh P.
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In Reply to: Not tanned, still fresh. I only keep the meat. posted by Whiteleather on August 31, 2000 at 21:26:09:
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In Reply to: Re: Looking for info on the Crosman posted by CJ on August 31, 2000 at 16:13:58:
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Fellow Airgunners,
About a month ago my wife and I flew out to California to attend her niece's wedding near Yosemite. Following the wedding Jane and I headed into the National Park for some backpacking. Those who know anything about Jane will know that she is a very organized and efficient person. She planned our trip down to the last detail. That includes planning the hikes, the equipment, the wilderness permits, everything. About the only thing she asked of me was to buy a camera to record the trip. Sending me out with a credit card to buy a camera, was a little like if she would have sent me into John Whiscombe's shop with a blank check. Needless to say I exceeded her goal and returned with about $650 worth of Sony digital camera. Meantime I had hooked up with Larry Anderson and Tom Jue in California via this forum and planned a visit to the wine country for some airgun shootin. But I'm getting a little ahead of myself. Shortly after conquering Half Dome, no mean feat if I do say so myself, the new camera was missing. Naturally we speculated about all sorts of scenarios. Did someone get into our "Bear Box" and steal the camera? Did we drop it on the trail down from Half Dome? Anyway the loss put a pall on our trip. I have no pictures to show folks of my conquest of Half Dome or the wonderful place that Larry Anderson has near Calistoga or of his attractive wife who teaches horseback riding to handicapped kids. Or of Monterey, California where I dropped off my wife for a re-union with her college classmates. Anyhow it has been a bummer every time I've thought about it. UNTIL THIS AFTERNOON! The National Park Service called to say that they have my camera and will mail it to me soon. Seems like they received a telephone call from a gentleman in Quebec, Canada who had my camera and who, with prompting from National Park Service Rangers, sent it back to Yosemite. When I was about twelve, my mom bought me a book entitled "The Power Of Positive Thinking". I've been telling Jane ever since our loss, that we'll get the camera back. To tell the truth I had just about given up. Norman Vincent Peale has my renewed confidence now and ya'll will probably get more digital photos than you may like to see of the much larger things we have here in Texas.
chasm
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In Reply to: Aw, C'mon Russ!! posted by Uncle Gary on August 31, 2000 at 21:52:18:
Gary: the shop is almost 50 miles from here !(but the beers aren't ! he he ) RB
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In Reply to: Boo hoo! posted by Russ Best on August 31, 2000 at 20:14:37:
1. Home in each hemisphere.
2. 2 parts Gin, 1 part Vermouth.
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In Reply to: Scope fit on R9 posted by bcd on August 31, 2000 at 22:02:59:
Tall mounts are needed. If you get into trouble, BKL and BSquare sell risers. TYou can even get drooped risers from BKL. RB
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Any known problems with the large objective (40 to 50 mm) AO scopes from Swift or Bushnell on the R9?
Need tall mounts?
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In Reply to: Hand pump posted by Head-Shot Rabbit on August 31, 2000 at 16:38:38:
I have not been doing this pumping thing very long, but I have formed some pretty hard opinions real quick. It depends on what you are doing if its worth it.
With my Talon I can shoot and shoot again on a pumping session, which for me is a lot of plinkin.
My MIT IV in stock form, tho a powerhouse, and fine for a hunting session on a pump up, will wear me out pumping it up plinkin, so I
I tend to shoot it with co2 instead (needs a power wheel mod, hope to get to it someday soon)
In Reply to: Boy, Am I lucky!! posted by matt sudol on August 31, 2000 at 20:08:32:
Well, I don't guess you can beat that kind of guarantee! The Sportview may be okay on your 45, you'll just have to shoot it a bit and see. Per that little 4X Gamo scope - Hey, don't laugh! I've a couple of them and a couple of the 2-7X ones. The darned little things seem to be indestructible and even have a funtioning AO! Matter of fact, the last time Joe Whittaker and I got together he had one on his QB-77! Not an FT scope by any means, but they work for hunting and plinking. Cheers!
Unc
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In Reply to: Boo hoo! posted by Russ Best on August 31, 2000 at 20:14:37:
Now you can get in a little more time out in the shop messing around with your guns, drink a few beers, you know! [GRIN!]
Gary
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In Reply to: HW45 .177 Cal in Canada (again) posted by Pete on August 31, 2000 at 14:36:19:
I suggest the .22 RWS Hobbies. They are the lightest .22's I know of at only 11.9 grains. Typically, the lighter pellets give better fpe at the muzzle and optimum trajectory. Unlike the Canadian Tire el cheapo Crosman Wadcutters, the RWS actually seal well too.
Is your HW45 new? I had to fire a zillion 17.1 grain Beeman pells through mine before it quit smoking!
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In Reply to: what is best rifle between 150-300 dollars? posted by michael on August 31, 2000 at 20:24:17:
Since you said you didn't need a lot of power, I'd say the R7 fills the bill better than just about anything else. Once you get one in your hands you won't want to put it down, I guar-an-tee! [GRIN!]
Unc
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In Reply to: Broken Beeman 66R 2-7 Where to send for repair posted by Bill 34 on August 31, 2000 at 18:35:43:
I just recieved my Beeman68 scope back. I sent it straight to Beeman and they returned back to me. It took several months but ther was no cost to me other than the initial shipping charge.
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In Reply to: Careers Rule !!!!!!! posted by RBest on August 31, 2000 at 20:26:57:
And this from a Savor owner! (Heh-Heh-Heh!) Russ, you're nuts, you know that? Cheers,
Unc
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In Reply to: Re: comments and reviews please on... posted by Bill Warren on August 31, 2000 at 00:54:34:
right?? lift up the top...
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In Reply to: what is best rifle between 150-300 dollars? posted by michael on August 31, 2000 at 20:24:17:
It's hard to beat the R9. Dependin what you want to do with it you will have to choose the caliber. I do a bit of huntin so I got the .20. I found the rifle to have execllent quality, accuracy and it looks great. Mine is still stock. I think I am gonna wait till somethin breaks and then get it tuned. You won't hear many complaints about the 9.
Gary
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In Reply to: Re: Auto vs. Gun licensing in USA posted by Fowler on August 31, 2000 at 14:51:05:
I believe that most places consider any carry in a vehicle to be concealed, limiting your range to walking distance of home.
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In Reply to: Careers Rule !!!!!!! posted by RBest on August 31, 2000 at 20:26:57:
I picked one up at a show and felt the overwhelming urge to start chewing my arm off!! I put it down and the urge went away!!
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In Reply to: Re: Eley Wasps ROCK!!! posted by John Studt on August 31, 2000 at 12:34:51:
Superdomes? They do have a real good muzzle velocity in my m54, but a real lousy downrange performance. In this case I would stick to the Miesters!
Rolo
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In Reply to: Re: Boo hoo! posted by john from NY on August 31, 2000 at 21:18:18:
It'll be dark by 5 pm on Holloween ! And I don'r get home until 6! Russ
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In Reply to: Hey Kris,how did you tan that hide? posted by Josh P. on August 31, 2000 at 20:56:23:
Scraping and soaking and tanning skins is pretty labor intensive.
Unfortunately I toss out the skins. Wouldn't mind a lead for a good simple fur tanning process. That chuck would have made a nice side quiver for my arrows.
Kris
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In Reply to: Vogel Match Pellets posted by john from NY on August 31, 2000 at 18:30:29:
John, I have tried them in an Anschutz 2002CA rifle and a Steyr LP10P pistol. They were .177 caliber and 0,53g with a 4.49 head diameter. In both guns they were very accurate.
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In Reply to: what is best rifle between 150-300 dollars? posted by michael on August 31, 2000 at 20:24:17:
nt
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In Reply to: Boo hoo! posted by Russ Best on August 31, 2000 at 20:14:37:
By December it'll be dark by 5:00. I could really go for late june again...
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I expect the number of people being held up with pellet guns to go up even higher now.
Had two last week. One was even at WAL-MART! Both times were idiot teens.
Kind of neat looking guns anyway. Are they woth the price paid for them? They even come with a tin of lead 4.5mm rounds.
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In Reply to: Good pistol posted by Albert on August 31, 2000 at 20:35:12:
You should really get a Crosman 2240 (in .22) This caliber is usually better for pump/Co2, and will kill birds easily. it is also very accurate and great for plinking. You can also get tunes for it from Mac1.
-john-
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In Reply to: Boo hoo! posted by Russ Best on August 31, 2000 at 20:14:37:
Why do you need sunlight to shoot? I have shot primarily at night using a simple goose neck adjustable light with an indoor spot type bulb. I can easily see 1 inch targets using a 6x18 trophy scope from 40 yards. You just need to run a power cord to the target. As for where your sitting use a low energy rechargable fluorescent camping light so you can see the pellets and the loading port etc. I have done this many many times as nights are better for me to shoot. If noise is a problem build a Helfrich Box Of Silence using 4x2 foot plywood, make a box, place about 20 2x2 foot heavy acoustic ceiling tiles at various angles with a consistant 6x6 inch hole cut out throughout the whole thing near the center. It does not have be a work of art. Mine took about 15-18 hours including a similar box for the target. Put it on adjustable legs(use piping with holes drilled at even spaces and use a pin to adjust height. I put mine on swivel wheels(heavy duty)and place strips of plywood beneath the wheels so you can adjust the thing. I shoot from a seated FT position. The contraption reduces the noise from a BS 392 steroid by about 95 %. It's almost silent. Springers are a bit louder due to mechanical noise that can;t bee dampened but there is a great reduction as well. I made a smaller version to place the pellet trap in. I am very close to 4 heighbors, 3 with young kids. If they don't hear it they can't get scared. Just a thought.
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In Reply to: Boy, Am I lucky!! posted by matt sudol on August 31, 2000 at 20:08:32:
squirrel opens in VT on the 1st too.
But it's too hot and there are still to many leaves on the trees.
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In Reply to: Careers Rule !!!!!!! posted by RBest on August 31, 2000 at 20:26:57:
But I'm still going to try and get a S-310.
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In Reply to: Awesome Pics of Woodchuck taken with 392 posted by Whiteleather on August 31, 2000 at 20:28:51:
I would like to tan a few rabbit hides this winter,how did you do it?
Thanks-Josh P.
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In Reply to: comments and reviews please on... posted by steve on August 31, 2000 at 00:42:48:
One item not yet mentioned is the basic construction of the two guns.
The P1 is all-metal. The basic frame is two large aluminum alloy investment castings with a high-quality matt finish. The piston/spring cylinder, piston, and cocking linkage are steel. All the smaller bits in the trigger, sights, etc., are steel or aluminum. The grips are nice wood, and most aftermarket grips made for the Colt .45 auto will fit. This pistol's combination of power, accuracy, trigger, and build quality is hard to top. I personally consider it the best mass-produced, non-match air pistol extant.
The P3 is mostly plastic, with the steel barrel and compression cylinder, and aluminum trigger, as the major exceptions. The grips are integral with the frame and thus non-interchangeable. This is not to denigrate the P3--which is made of top quality materials, is extremely accurate, comfortable, and has a better trigger and sights than some entry-level target guns--but it is not the lifetime investment the P1 is. Then again, it costs scarcely more than a third of of its Weihrauch sibling and can be fairly called a steal at the price.
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In Reply to: Crosman 760 valve replacement. posted by Eric on August 31, 2000 at 11:32:37:
Eric.
Did you not get the free schematic for your particular rifle , from crossman
It is a very simple process no special tools required .. I think that if you are that deep in the assembly
you might consider a few other important pieces whilst your in there. very inexpensive parts that go a long way
down the road,.And did you order the valve assembly from crossman ??
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In Reply to: Seeking recommendations for youth target pistol for 10 yr. old boy... posted by Ray Pyke on August 31, 2000 at 20:25:13:
Ray,
I have a IZH-53M and like it a lot but, I think an average adult size hand is minimum for a good grip.
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In Reply to: BSJ, I guess $8 or $9 per gal. gas would have been good for the USA. I think we would have had massive riots, food, labor etc. posted by misteradvice on August 31, 2000 at 17:49:57:
We get most of our foreign oil form Venezuela and Mexico, not form the Middle East. BTW Venezuela is
an OPEC member and Mexico is in a "partnership" with OPEC. We have more than enough oil reserves in
the ground to meet any need we would have, but its been placed off limits for environmental reason or it
would cost a little more to pump it than foreign oil does. American oil companies now make money refining oil
not pumping it, because that's where the profit is.
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Hello !
Now that I have a bit more money, I would like to buy a fairly good handgun (ex : Crosman).
However, I have a few criterias :
1- I want to able to humanely kill small size birds (up to pigeon) with head shots at 10-15 yards (ah, yes, must comply with Canada's 500fps max rule... .177 or .22, they don't care. duh) It would be used 75% small animal hunting, 25% informal target shooting/plinking
2- I want about 1/2" grouping at 10-15 yards
3- 100$ would be the maximum... Of course, iron sights, no red-dot/scope/laser on it would be mounted...
I saw a few "interesting" pistols outta here :
Crosman 357 :
I think this has good groupings, but I don't know if it has enough power (they claim 435 fps, for about 3FP)
Backpacker :
I don't know if it is good in its shortened version (w/o the stock), seems to have much more power (they say 495fps in .22, for about 6.5FP)
Would you have other guns to suggest me ?
Thanks a lot!
Albert
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In Reply to: Re: Boo hoo! double Boo Hoo ! posted by RBest on August 31, 2000 at 20:23:26:
Bummer man. Tell ya what. Raised rancher hugh? Well get over by the fire place on the garage wall and set the target up by the master bedroon on the ground floor down the hall. That should give ya at least the 18' ya need. LOL ;-]
Gary
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In Reply to: Re: Superstar .22 rifle or carbine......Russ posted by Gary on August 31, 2000 at 20:27:50:
The show is on a Saturday- all airguns. Obviously< the carbine will be a little lighter, with a slightly higher cocking effort (and maybe a touch more recoil)- but I cannot say for sure, I've never used a Carbine. RB
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In Reply to: Careers Rule !!!!!!! posted by RBest on August 31, 2000 at 20:26:57:
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I can't put the gun up for auction until next month, but thought you all would appreciate some airgun hunting pics.
WARNING: SOME OF THESE MAY BE DISTURBING TO THE UNINITIATED. PROCEED AT YOUR OWN RISK.
http://images.honesty.com/cgi-bin/honesty-image/12995124/392_all.JPG
Below you see a woodchuck taken at about 15 meters with 9 pumps pushing an RWS Superdome .22 pellet at nearly 700fps (shot on August 29, 2000...yes, I am still shooting it, and will until I pack it up to ship off to the high bidder). The chuck was stopped pretty much in its tracks by the very gun on which you are bidding.
http://images.honesty.com/cgi-bin/honesty-image/12995273/Chuck_392_1.JPG
http://images.honesty.com/cgi-bin/honesty-image/12995274/Chuck_392_2.JPG
The pellet did NOT pass through the entire skull, but that doesn't mean decreased efficiency. If anything, that is a plus! (The pellet in the pic is a new one shown for illustration). Clearly I was a little low and to the left. (shot from behind).
http://images.honesty.com/cgi-bin/honesty-image/12995275/Chuck_Pellet.JPG
I am auctioning off the gun, in excellent shape, with the Williams peep sight attached.
In addition, I will include a new Intermount and a 2-piece "C" mount so the winner can attach a scope for distances beyond their vision (usually around 35m).
http://images.honesty.com/cgi-bin/honesty-image/12995123/392_Accessories_2.JPG
(sorry about the shadows).
The nice thing about this gun is NO RECOIL! That means that any scope will last forever. The original rear sight is included for those of you who want to go WAY back to basics.
Accurate placement of your shot is easy with this setup...the hard part comes later.
http://images.honesty.com/cgi-bin/honesty-image/12996154/Pelt_carcass.JPG
Regards,
Kris
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In Reply to: Re: Boo hoo! double Boo Hoo ! posted by RBest on August 31, 2000 at 20:23:26:
Its bad enough when it gets too dark to shoot too early, so i have to choose between shooting and another activity, but i have even more to bitch about because up here where i live (maine) there are always a ton of mosquitos even when its light out!!!
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In Reply to: Re: Superstar .22 rifle or carbine......Russ posted by RBest on August 31, 2000 at 20:22:04:
Do you think the carbine would handle any better? Would the weight difference be anything to worry about? Would the cockin of the carbine be much harder cause of the shorter arm?
Still havein a problem gettin a good Superstar. Workin on it though.
Where is Dimascus (sp) sorry, in Md? Is the show all weekend and is it all airgun?
Thanks Russ
Gary
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In Reply to: Re: Superstar .22 rifle or carbine......Russ posted by RBest on August 31, 2000 at 20:22:04:
Do you think the carbine would handle any better? Would the weight difference be anything to worry about? Would the cockin of the carbine be much harder cause of the shorter arm? Sounds like you would stay with the rifle hugh?
Still havein a problem gettin a good Superstar. Workin on it though.
Where is Dimascus (sp) sorry, in Md? Is the show all weekend and is it all airgun?
Thanks Russ
Gary
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I posted this because Steve in in europe and Swinson is busy moving. I do not not profit from this statement, nor do I even own one! RB
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I have an IZH-46, but it is too heavy for my son. Tried a C02 crosman, trigger sucks. Looking for ideas from you who have been down this road. Something with smaller grip, light weight, easy to cock, decent trigger and accuracy. You know, a gun he can score with well enough to keep him excited. Anyone know of IZH-53M? Thanks for any help you can offer guys.
Ray
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hey can any of you give me your opinion of what the most accurate and highest quality spring piston gun i can get for $150-$300???
i dont need alot of power just a good accurate gun.
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In Reply to: Re: Boo hoo! posted by Gary on August 31, 2000 at 20:20:11:
I have a raised ranch- no basement ! RB
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In Reply to: Superstar .22 rifle or carbine......Russ posted by Gary on August 31, 2000 at 20:18:19:
Not much difference to me. My rifle is extremely accurate, and I'm happy with it. It's my primary squirrel gun (.22). RB
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In Reply to: tasco world class plus scope posted by BC on August 31, 2000 at 15:30:10:
Bob: just mounted the 8x32x44 on my Saver 7000. Optics are good, but contrast fades a bit above 28x or so. Mine has the fine reticle with 1/8th target dot.. Long scope. RB
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In Reply to: Boo hoo! posted by Russ Best on August 31, 2000 at 20:14:37:
Do what I did Russ, get a pistol and head for the basement.
Gary
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In Reply to: Crime stats for Australia posted by C. Martin on August 31, 2000 at 12:59:19:
i have seen a few studies on it saying that homicides increased 80 percent and all other violent crimes did as well following the gun control laws. i dont know wether its true or not and i personally dont think any politically oriented survey is gonna be too reliable whether its for one side or the other.
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In Reply to: I can tell you hunting javelina with an airgun doesn't work posted by Michael Lefty A on August 31, 2000 at 09:22:52:
Yes it does. If you get a gun by Barnes. Some of his guns shoot 600 foot pounds. Yes that's right. 600 foot pounds. Check it out. <;o)
SeeYa,
-Cody Dotter-
Hey Russ
If you had the choice of a Superstar in rifle or carbine which one would you take? I don't know if I have the choice but it may. I cought you on this list but left the same question on SS.
Gary
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by 7:30 pm, it's too dark to shoot ! Waaaaa! Give me late June-early July anytime! RB
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In Reply to: Re: is this gun any good? posted by bing on August 31, 2000 at 08:19:50:
yea i was talking about the gamo stutzen, i wasnt aware that bsa made one.Sorry, Dave, could you tell me approximately how much power is needed to cock it? the only air rifle i own is a beeman gt 600 and i can cock it hundreds of times in a row like its nothing. i think its rated 20-30 pounds, but i could be wrong. and what distances do you usually shoot those one hole groups at? 10m?
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In Reply to: Boy, Am I lucky!! posted by matt sudol on August 31, 2000 at 20:08:32:
Rock and roll Matt ! RB
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In Reply to: Re: Hand pump posted by DaveG on August 31, 2000 at 17:03:24:
I have a Pump Up and 2 co2 pistols
Sure the hand pump i cheap but stop
thinking like that a powerlet is only
about 75 cents I want to sell my pump
up now
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In Reply to: Re: Hey Dave,Any progress on the BSA SS stock design ? nt posted by DaveG on August 31, 2000 at 17:06:10:
I'm gettin' all squirmy just thinkin' about it ! :>) Russ
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Well I visited a local sport shop yesterday and spent the 100 dollars like every time I go there about once a week. Picked up a .22 mini mag scope , sling and other stuff. So then today after I did some work we went to a sport shop where my dad has a friend since they were babies or something and this guy is so cool. So I picked out a scope and told what him what i was using it for and what gun I had (rws 45) I said yea maybe a banner (bushnell) would do it. He goes," No, banners are 100 dollars you don't need that." Here do you want 4X or 3-9? 4X should be good I say. It is a sportview. "This is a nice scope and if it craps out or something I can get you another one , ok." So that is why I am lucky! Bushnell charges I think 15 dollars and they will fix it but this guy will get me a totally new one! I have shot sportviews on springers and usually get about 6500 pellets before something goes wrong. I had a little 10 dollar gamo 4X on there for about the first 10,000 pellets and I just took it off again because I got a new scope. Don't forget squirrel opens tommarow in NY state!!
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In Reply to: ProElite tune kit? posted by FPoole on August 31, 2000 at 14:19:09:
FPoole,
It just so happens that I have one that I no longer need, totaly un-used and still in the bag.
A JM kit consisting of a full power spring and seal. I got the kit about 2-3 months ago.
Let me know if your interested.
Later
Larz
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I'm new to pneumatics, at least the non-Daisy type. What is the best or easiest wasy to pressurize the CA707? Hand pump, scuba tanks?
Any comments are appreciated. Thanks to all who replied about my accuracy question earlier.
Regards, Slick
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In Reply to: New lube for pellets posted by Bill 34 on August 31, 2000 at 18:46:27:
www.X1R.com
I put it in the proper field but it didn't take
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In Reply to: Broken Beeman 66R 2-7 Where to send for repair posted by Bill 34 on August 31, 2000 at 18:35:43:
Call Beeman and see what they say. They'll probably send it to ABO USA (Hakko) in Florida. RB
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In Reply to: Re: Libertarian party! posted by BSJ on August 31, 2000 at 17:07:35:
Brian: I'm with you on that one. I like the Libertarian platform, but we all know they don't stand a snowballs chance in hell. Therefore, any vote NOT cast for Bush will be a vote gained for Gore, and THAT really worries me. I voted Independent in the last two elections, and Clinton won both times. Not good! I'll not make that mistake again. I'm not wild about Bush/Cheney either, but I can live with the lesser of two evils for now. Regards, Russ
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In Reply to: Re: Thank you ..Roland for your RWS 54 home page the tigger works on my 46 as well.. posted by Roland Martens on August 30, 2000 at 07:17:10:
before & after & numbers too.
thanks
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In Reply to: Doc!! Why are you here??? The only thing you have in common with us are airguns. There is much more to it than that. posted by vidas chekski on August 31, 2000 at 16:44:15:
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In Reply to: Re: Leupold 6.5 x 20 EFR good for hunting and plinking? posted by chasm on August 31, 2000 at 13:20:44:
You'd be a lot happier with the 4.5-14X50MM Vari-X III for those uses, not cheap but a hell of a fine scope. I'm a cheap so-and-so, so I'd just get a 4-12X50 Swift Model 676 myself and save a pile of money, and still be perfectly well satisfied! Cheers!
Unc
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A few years ago I was useing an oil additive in my motorcycle that would allow me to use a lower viscosity oil. The additive did lower the bike temp (digital gauge) a full 8 degrees. And the bike was notcibly quieter and would not exceed 210 degrees when stopped at lights. (I live in central Florida)The problem with the product was the cost and availability. It cost $30.00 and was only available thru distributors or some performance cycle shops. Anyhow I saw it in Wal-Mart for $13.00 and bought some just to see if it was the same stuff (The package was different) and low and behold results were the same. It's called X-1R and they do have a web site. Perhaps some of you that lube your pellets might give it a try. I'll post the web site and you can get the skinny on what it's all about.
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In Reply to: Reloading Crosman 1100 shotshells posted by Wallace Berry on August 31, 2000 at 10:41:47:
You can buy .36 cal muzzle loading felt wads that work great, also you could call lutters croman repair he used to have gobs of plastic wads and also the shotshells. He had a plastic company re-make them for him.
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In Reply to: price posted by BC on August 31, 2000 at 15:33:45:
If you shop around a bit you can usually find them in the range of $170-$200. The Swift 6-24X50MM model 677M is $200 from Silver Streak Sports. The Swift is a lot more scope for your money! Regards,
Unc
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In Reply to: tasco world class plus scope posted by BC on August 31, 2000 at 15:30:10:
They might hold up on a CO2 or PCP gun, but they WON"T hold up long on magnum springers! Just depends what type airgun you're going to use it on. But before I spent this much on a Tasco target scope I'd take a little more money and buy a Swift 6-24X50, they outperform both the Tasco scopes mentioned by a large margin, and are springer rated. Cheers!
Unc
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In Reply to: What Airgun Books ? posted by darmtn on August 31, 2000 at 17:40:50:
Some of these books are out of print and are collectors items. The price you quoted for Walters' book is cheap! I paid $65 for mine a couple years ago! Another collectible is WHB Smiths' Encyclopedia of Gas, Air and Spring Guns of the World. This one can fetch $100 per copy if in excellent shape. Most of the currently available airgun books run in the $30 to $35 dollar range. This is because the market is very limited and not many copies are run off at a time.
Some current titles:
GV Cardews: The Airgun, from Trigger to Target.
Dennis Hillers' Guide to Collecting Air Rifles
" " " " " Air Pistols.
Eldon G. Wolff "Airguns" (mostly a historical view- very good!).
Ron Robinsons' The Manic Compressive.
And several other books, some of which are devoted to hunting. Regards, Russ
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I'd like to get this scope fixed. Should I send it to Beeman or Hakko.
Thanks
Bill (34)
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In Reply to: Will a scope labeled shockproof... posted by Zeke G. on August 31, 2000 at 17:47:19:
Zeke,
Unless it's either the Simmons Model 1048T 44 Mag or the ProAir it probably won't hold up on an R9; the R9 has a stout mainspring and will shake the lenses and erector tube loose in the others. I wounldn't chance it myself. Like Russ says, they all claim to be "shockproof" nowdays. Regards,
Unc
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Has anybody tried these new pellets?
Thanks-
-john-
In Reply to: Re: Will a scope labeled shockproof... posted by Zeke G. on August 31, 2000 at 18:26:00:
nt
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In Reply to: Hand pump posted by Head-Shot Rabbit on August 31, 2000 at 16:38:38:
I have the hand pump too. I don't think it's a pain to pump up. I guess it depends on how many shots you take. I have the power wheel mod on my Career and I can take quite a few shots (90 shots
at consistent 778-800 fps) without refilling.
When it gets down to about 200 on the pressure guage, I pump it back up again. Also, when I'm done shooting I might pump it back up so that the next time I take it out, all I have to do is load and shoot.
ktk
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In Reply to: Re: Will a scope labeled shockproof... posted by RBest on August 31, 2000 at 18:08:10:
RB,
It's the sweetest shooter I have. I love it, my dad loves it, my neighbor loves it......not a good thing. Anyway, I'll be sending you the ss for some of your special tlc. Thanks again buddy.
Zeke
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In Reply to: FAC power from springer posted by hooper on August 31, 2000 at 08:00:14:
Try T.R. Robb in the UK. I don't know his shop number, but many UK airgunners should. RB
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In Reply to: Eley Wasps ROCK!!! posted by jcbii on August 31, 2000 at 11:09:33:
When they work in a gun, they work really well! I have a few airguns that do very well with them.. in both .177 and .22 caliber(5.6MM). RB
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In Reply to: ProElite tune kit? posted by FPoole on August 31, 2000 at 14:19:09:
FP: no kits for these. Like Jim, I'd rather personally fit the seal to the chamber, so that I know the fit was a good one. RB
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In Reply to: Will a scope labeled shockproof... posted by Zeke G. on August 31, 2000 at 17:47:19:
Zeke: I'd go for the latter. practically all scopes say shockproof these days, but they aren't springer proof. Regards, Russ
PS; how's the gun doin'?
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In Reply to: Re: Libertarian party! posted by BSJ on August 31, 2000 at 17:07:35:
People would kill to keep their families fed. We
are the superpower and if it's in our best interests I say we do it. Nam was NOT in our best
interests. BTW I'm surprised the liberals were so
against the Gulf war. Just think how many unarmed
people would have bought guns to protect themselves & familys during the $9 per gal. gas
crisis.
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Will a scope labeled as shockproof hold up in say a r9? The scope in question is a simmons 3-9 x 32 mm scope. I don't have the exact model name. Anyway, this will be for my bestuned r9. Or should I just spend an extra $60 for a bushnel or swift? Thanks for your help.
Zeke
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In Reply to: Who sells MAX mounts in US? (nt) posted by Vlad B on August 31, 2000 at 17:31:56:
AAA Sporting Goods has them. They are not on their site, but if you call or email them, they have them, and at good prices.
In Reply to: Looking for info on the Crosman " 160 " Pellgun posted by Andrew Webb on August 31, 2000 at 15:57:09:
Thanks much for all the advice, I have asked for a manual from the Crosman site. The seals (and indeed the entire gun) seem to be in great condition. I'll pick up some CO2 and Pellgun oil tomorrow.
BTW - Anyone have any experience setting the range using the rear spade sight? In other words what would your recommendations be for range to notch?
Thanks again,
Andy Webb
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What are the best airgun books for good information on type,power and rarity. What should they cost since most are found on the used market - with the exception of DT Fletcher's Crosman books. I have noticed postings for sale with large money amounts.(Example Walter's Airgun book from $30-$55).
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In Reply to: Dove Season posted by chasm on August 30, 2000 at 22:00:24:
It is illegal to hunt migratory birds (doves included) with a rifle of any type (air rifles included) per the Federal Migratory Bird Act. Sorry if I've spoiled anyones fun, I only found out myself two day ago. Here in CO most any small game can be hunted with an airgun, but for turkeys you must have 110ft.lbs. @ 100yds. I'd like to have that kind of air rifle; maybe one of Gary Barnes's...after I make my first million$
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Does anyone know what year RWS imported the TX200 ?
What years were the Mark II and Mark IIIs made?
Thanks....Tom
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In Reply to: A question for Daystate owners. posted by RGunn on August 31, 2000 at 15:46:51:
I don't know about the CRX handle (it does look nice though) but the rather crude Harrier handle will. Have you tried the swan-neck? It's really nice but does sometimes get tripped while working the safety.
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without a Senate or congressional vote or look/see
they will do it and then watch out. Remember
IYFS= IT'S YOUR FREEDOM, STUPID.
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In Reply to: Libertarian party! posted by Dan in MA on August 31, 2000 at 13:54:31:
You never know. I look at it like any vote that isn't for Bush is a vote for Gore.
Just to be clear I'm not much of a Bush fan at all. His father sent me to war to protect a Dictatorial Monarchy from an Megalomaniac. As well as for the express purposes of reinstating another Dictatorial Monarchy and keeping the price of oil low. I don't remember protecting the Constitution, or Liberty one bit while I was there either.
But if G.W. can keep the promises he made at the convention, I would begin to respect him more.
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In Reply to: Hey Dave,Any progress on the BSA SS stock design ? nt posted by TStray on August 31, 2000 at 17:02:18:
Progress... But no progress... I have the two designs i want to shape out finalized, but have been out of the shop getting ready for the Worlds for a couple of weeks now... I got back in there last night, and i have some orders to get caught up on, then I should be able to get to the prototypes... Mabe three weeks before i can do photos.
Regards,
DaveG
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In Reply to: Looking for info on the Crosman " 160 " Pellgun posted by Andrew Webb on August 31, 2000 at 15:57:09:
Andy: Go to the Crosman web site and request an instruction manual for this gun. They will send one (probably a xerox), it will tell you all you need to know. Don't be too suprised if the gas leaks out it's an old gun and the seals may be shot. If it does it will need a seal kit, order from your favorite parts supplier (I got one for about $8 two months ago, they're not too pricey). You can do the work yourself if your clever. If you get into a jam ask here and someone will talk you through it. HINT: don't trash the barrel clamp.
Don't slather the gun down with WD40 or anything else, use Crosman Pellgun Oil or Non-detergent SAE 30 WT moter oil only. Good luck...
HTH - Steve B.
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In Reply to: Hand pump posted by Head-Shot Rabbit on August 31, 2000 at 16:38:38:
don't allow the charge to get to low B4 you pump
up again. Stop pumping periodically to allow pump
to cool down.
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In Reply to: Hand pump posted by Head-Shot Rabbit on August 31, 2000 at 16:38:38:
No, I wouldn't agree. I have one, and I use it frequently.
Regards,
DaveG
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In Reply to: Looking for info on the Crosman " 160 " Pellgun posted by Andrew Webb on August 31, 2000 at 15:57:09:
Dean Fletcher has written a book on this gun.Its a great read!
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In Reply to: I'm right here fellas! posted by DaveG on August 31, 2000 at 16:33:21:
nt
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In Reply to: CA707 Accuracy? posted by Slick on August 30, 2000 at 23:53:05:
I have on posted on brads site at a good price, I like my 9mm better
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In Reply to: Re: VOTE REPUBLICAN; Keep your guns for 30% longer. posted by BSJ on August 30, 2000 at 18:32:29:
nt
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In Reply to: Like I said before... posted by Doc on August 30, 2000 at 18:45:21:
Have you considered a rubberband gun? Lots of fun
and you CAN'T defend yourself with it. Perfect
algone weapon.
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i was gonna buy a hand pump but was told that i shouldn't buy one cos they are a pain in the arse (takes ages to pump up gun)
would u agree?
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In Reply to: The information in R. Malinka's post is correct....... posted by Uncle Gary on August 30, 2000 at 20:12:39:
I keep harping for people to get out and vote (it
does make a difference) and to join the NRA. If
people don't take the likes of algore,liberman,
daschal,boxer,hillary,bill etc. our children will
eventually be in chains and the old Ussr is something they might wish they had.
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In Reply to: Re: He's back posted by AC on August 31, 2000 at 16:27:58:
Did the trip out to Minnesota, to get my but kicked at the worlds, and after the 2000 mile trip I'm still feeling a little slow, but I'm right here! Also trying to get caught up on work after taking a week off...
Regards,
DaveG
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In Reply to: Where is DaveG...I have not seen him for a while..nt posted by Wayne from Ohio on August 31, 2000 at 16:07:14:
I was wondering the same thing, but he's commented on a couple posts the last day or two including this morning.
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In Reply to: Looking for info on the Crosman " 160 " Pellgun posted by Andrew Webb on August 31, 2000 at 15:57:09:
Congrats on your great find! The Crosman 160 is probably one of the best guns the company made!
-john-
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In Reply to: FX 2000 posted by Cody Dotter on August 30, 2000 at 16:35:13:
When will you actually buy one of the 30 or so guns you have inquired about?
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In Reply to: HW45 .177 Cal in Canada (again) posted by Pete on August 31, 2000 at 14:36:19:
Personally (having never owned a HW45) I'd start with Crosman Premiers which are available at LeBaron's.
After the Premiers I'd go with Benjamin Sherian domed or RWS domed then any other domed pellet. Domed
pellets in my opinion are the most accurate.
Hope this helps.
Scott
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In Reply to: CA707 Accuracy? posted by Slick on August 30, 2000 at 23:53:05:
I have killed sparrows (english) at 80 yrds consistently enough you do not want to be a english sparrow around my house
MarkD
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In Reply to: Where is DaveG...I have not seen him for a while..nt posted by Wayne from Ohio on August 31, 2000 at 16:07:14:
I got my fix this weekend at the World's! Boy it
was just in time, too! I was about to have a case
of the JONES! ;-)
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In Reply to: And, where is the trigger on this thing? posted by Charles H. on August 31, 2000 at 04:48:42:
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In Reply to: A question for Daystate owners. posted by RGunn on August 31, 2000 at 15:46:51:
...you can, however, have Allen Z or someone else
make you a conventional bolt "handle" that can be
exchanged for the Swan Neck. The bolt diameter is
smaller on the Huntsman than the CR's.
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In Reply to: Looking for info on the Crosman " 160 " Pellgun posted by Andrew Webb on August 31, 2000 at 15:57:09:
Cock the gun Put the first cart in tip first( tip towards the butt ) next one butt down first (tip towards the cap). Twist the cap down till it bottems then turn it a 1/4 turn back to release the gas.Next make sure it's pointed in a safe direction and fire the gun. When you fire the gun inside the valve is a piercing rod thats pop up by the valve stemthats pushed by the hammer.The whole tube is under presure.
CJ
In Reply to: A question for Daystate owners. posted by RGunn on August 31, 2000 at 15:46:51:
Randy I do not know if that is possible or not but I would be willing to bet that the huntsman and the harrier bolts would.
MarkD
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In Reply to: Looking for info on the Crosman " 160 " Pellgun posted by Andrew Webb on August 31, 2000 at 15:57:09:
Yes it uses the modern 12g C02 cannisters you put the
first one tip first and the next one tip last, you]
then point the gun in a safe direction cock it and
fire it this will puncture the C02 cartridges the
gun is now ready for use.
They are great little guns a lot of info is available
on the web and in written form.
be careful and Have fun shooting
Tom L.
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In Reply to: Looking for info on the Crosman " 160 " Pellgun posted by Andrew Webb on August 31, 2000 at 15:57:09:
The first one goes in nipple first - the second goes in reversed with the nipple pointing towards the cap. The cap should have a point to punture the second CO2. It can be used with any 12gram CO2.
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Hi All,
I just picked up a Crosman "160" Pellgun type 1 at a moving sale and I have a few questions.
1) Is it safe to use with modern powerlets? The gun appears to be in excelent condition.
2) How does one load a powerlet? Instinct tells me that one simply pops them in the front capped compartment nipple end first, but I read somewhere that you could use up to two powerlets simultaneously and this doesn't seem possible.
Any help you can offer would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Andy Webb
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In Reply to: No way! posted by Zero on August 30, 2000 at 09:23:49:
Thanks. I know some stores that sell the darts, but my gun can't take them. Only BBs. The darts that I made can fit any gun. With a little modification, I've made some with a tip that prevents ricochets, some with an explosive tip (made with the impact explosive from party poppers and snap-n-pops), some with 3 tips, some with barbed tips, etc.
P.S. - The explosive tip darts contained just enough explosive to produce a small pop, not enough to do any damage.
Thanks again.
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Is it possible to retrofit the bolt from the CRX to the Huntsman? Why? Because I don't like the appearance of the swan neck bolt handle. Thanks.
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In Reply to: Re: Leupold 6.5 x 20 EFR good for hunting and plinking? posted by chasm on August 31, 2000 at 13:20:44:
I would recomend this range as well althought I don't have the money to recomend this model. In my opinion 6.5-20 is too high power for hunting (I use the same power). Typical shot distance in the woods = 25yds, I find myself wishing for a larger field of veiw fairly regularly, but the high power is great for target shooting.
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In Reply to: Re: The AA100 -- how accurate is it? posted by peter huppertz on August 31, 2000 at 01:42:01:
Thank's Peter.
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In Reply to: tasco world class plus scope posted by BC on August 31, 2000 at 15:30:10:
Also does anyone know how much these two scopes cost? Thanks again
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Has anyone ever used the world class plus 8-32x50 scope or the world class target 8-32x44 scope. If you could let me know what you thought of these scopes it would be greatly appreciated. Also I noticed that at the website www.rarebirdbytasco.com the world class plus comes with 3" and 5" sunshades, does the target scope come with them too. THANKS
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In Reply to: Re: YES posted by Zeke G. on August 30, 2000 at 19:00:27:
As I said, I know nothing, I'm from Barcelona (as in Manuel from Fawlty Towers).
So I don't even know that. It may be that Manuel would be able to tell you, if Mr. Fawlty would let him. ;-)
peter
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In Reply to: Re: Peter please help. Look inside. posted by john from NY on August 31, 2000 at 10:37:30:
I am just about positive I have never owned a 52 or 54. I did own a 48 until recently.
Also, the 48 would have shot the Superdomes like crap, or so I suspect.
That filthy trick was reallly pulled off by the AA100.
peter
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In Reply to: Auto vs. Gun licensing in USA posted by Mitch on August 31, 2000 at 12:42:35:
While I'm glad that Vermont has such a free attitude toward guns (up until recently ... maybe still ... you were still allowed to SHOOT fish), many states do not require licenses for various types of guns. It varies considerably, but most states require a license for CONCEALED carry of handguns, but many do not require a license for OPEN carry; and many require no license for rifles or shotguns. Gun registration (as opposed to license) also varies a lot. In many states, you only have to fill out the basic Federal form when buying a new gun (usually from a dealer). Later sales between private individuals are often unrecorded. In Massachusetts, just about everything, and every step of the process, requires a license, permit, etc. On the other hand, WITH the right permit, you can carry a handgun concealed (in some states, that is not an option ... open carry may be OK and unlicensed, but concealed is not permitted at all ... until recently, this was how it was in Texas); that's why, in some states, the new License To Carry (or "LTC") laws are a big deal.
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In Reply to: Crosman 760 valve replacement. posted by Eric on August 31, 2000 at 11:32:37:
Contact mac1 at www.mac1airgun.com
-john-
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In Reply to: Re: Maybe you can get people from this forum to submit their own reviews as well. posted by Shane on August 31, 2000 at 14:38:20:
I only used the Expomatic as an example. It has been
a long time since I shot it so it may be better or
worse than I indicated.
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In Reply to: Re: Maybe you can get people from this forum to submit their own reviews as well. posted by TK on August 30, 2000 at 19:21:45:
I think someone pointed out that a good review does
require a fairly lengthy amount of time to do well.
Perhaps someone could come up with a format to allow
people to give their impressions about a certain air
gun they have tried. It could be a way to get a lot
of useful information together.
The headings could be something like
Name of Airgun - Gamo Expomatic
Type - Breakbarrel Springer
Number of shots 200 over 2 sessions
accuracy 1/2" at 10m
Features - 25 shot magazine
Impressions - low power (rated at 495 fps), unusual
scope mount seems flimsy, accurate for plinking and the
25 shot magazine makes it fun to keep shooting,
fairly fast to reload, but only takes flat head pellets
I am sure there could be more details included and
the idea refined but I think this is a start.
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Apologies to all fellow Canucks regarding my misleading earlier post stating that over 500fps air pistols are not restricted. I did get the erronious information straight from the horses mouth! I now am looking for some reccomendations for .22 Cal pellets I should try for starters in my HW45. Any suggestions? Thanks, Pete
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In Reply to: ProElite tune kit? posted by FPoole on August 31, 2000 at 14:19:09:
bb bb
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My PE has about 4000 rounds through it and I'm ready for a tune. Does anyone sell a kit these days, Russel Best maybe? James Maccari does not. By the way, the gun still shoots great, I just want to experiment.
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In Reply to: Re: TX200 SR Trigger Adjustments Different from TX200 posted by RBest on August 30, 2000 at 18:11:27:
I'll try it but I think I'll have to go to the gym and build up some muscles.
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The keychain holder thing looks like a coiled telephone cord. Slip the pellets headfirst into the gap between coils, not inside the coil. The row of pellets will have the skirts sticking out and can be removed easily.
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In Reply to: daisy pistol posted by AL on August 29, 2000 at 06:29:40:
it does blow back but not the whole slide just the back bit but it does cock a actual hammer it works pretty well about 60 shots from a capsule
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In Reply to: Re: VOTE REPUBLICAN; Keep your guns for 30% longer. posted by BSJ on August 30, 2000 at 18:32:29:
You got that right. The libertarians are dedicated to preserving our civil right. I'll be voting for liberty this fall.
Since I live in the state the Kennedy's came from, it's a done deal already that the Dems will get this state. Therefore my vote for Bush wouldn't matter anyway. However, my vote for Harry Browne(?) the Libertarian candidate means a lot to that party, so I'll be voting for him. (I think.)
Dan.
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In Reply to: Crime stats for Australia posted by C. Martin on August 31, 2000 at 12:59:19:
Ugh... to think that will happen in the USA sometime. At least we have the second amendment and the NRA... But still it can't be from than 10 years before handguns at least are banned.
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In Reply to: Re: Peter please help. Look inside. posted by john from NY on August 31, 2000 at 10:37:30:
nt.
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In Reply to: Sceen shot of upcoming web site.... posted by TK on August 30, 2000 at 20:37:38:
I hope there is a menu on the home page and I don't want to wait for a whole lot of pictures to load. Would rather see page load fast and I pick what pictures & reviews to wait for. I do like the idea of a review page. One problem is the way some people picks on people who misspell a word on this forum might make someone a little leary about writing a review.
Art
Art
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In Reply to: Precision Pellet same price for parts as Crosman posted by Lou on August 31, 2000 at 13:34:49:
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In Reply to: please post the address in this forum when your done TK, we need more airgun review sites like yours (nt) posted by evil_guy on August 31, 2000 at 08:37:02:
I plan to do so.
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In Reply to: Re: Cleaning " Rod " from fishing line. posted by Marty Silver Streak on August 30, 2000 at 23:53:37:
Marty,
I have heard that the weedwacker monofiliment line was pretty abrasive. Have you heard this or have any comments.
Art
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I have made a nice pellet holder from one of those plastic coil keychains. The small ones hold 177 nicely, larger ones for other pellets.
I put a row of 20 pellets in the keychain and strap it to the gun with elastic bands.
Also put flap of camo cloth over top for further protection.
The flexibility of the keychain prevents most damage too.
Mikey
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In Reply to: Yes, but they're cheaper if you order them from a repair center... posted by scot on August 31, 2000 at 09:54:11:
but he gets them out faster
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In Reply to: did i actually say gun controlle works?? posted by revolution on August 31, 2000 at 10:20:53:
Actually, offences involving firearms have increased by 4% nationally and nearly 8% in London, since the handgun ban was imposed.
Homicides involving firearms have increased by over 10% in 1999 in the Metropolitan police area (London).
You are completely entitled to hold and to express your opinions, but using untrue statements to support them reminds me of someone.....Oh Yes, it's nice Mr Blair.
Kenny
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In Reply to: Re: Leupold 6.5 x 20 EFR good for hunting and plinking? posted by Mitch on August 31, 2000 at 11:58:29:
Mitch,
Check out the Leupold 4.5-14x50 AO VariX-III. While not advertised as an EFR, it will focus down to airgun ranges. HTH
chasm
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In Reply to: multipump air guns: pumping motion posted by Tom on August 31, 2000 at 11:32:47:
The lever type shown is the only really practical method.
It gives you a mechanical advantage to help get the pressure up. Some older guns had a straight line "bicycle pump" action, but that necessitates a long pump rod coming out from the front of the gun.
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In Reply to: Actually I think, unforunately... posted by docwells on August 31, 2000 at 08:56:58:
Doesn't seem right because PETA accused Dougherty of violating, in 1995, a law passed in 1999.
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In Reply to: Re: Bushnell Elite 4200 4-16x50 Adj.Obj posted by Derrin on August 31, 2000 at 09:21:27:
Funny how people were complaining about the Leupolds at the worlds, but I did not hear one complaint about a B&L fogging up.
Tim
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In Reply to: CA707 Accuracy? posted by Slick on August 30, 2000 at 23:53:05:
Slick:
Best I've been able to do in a quantitative way is a 3/8" group at 25 yards, from a bench, so basically, a one holer. Thats using Kodiaks in .22 cal at 925 fps, and I'm not that good of a shooter. I've also found that changing speeds can affect accuracy, in other words, that same day, shooting the same pellet at about 800 fps, the groups were about 3/4". Maybe it was just me getting tired or hitting a rough spot or just a random event, but I bumped the velocity to the higher level and the accuracy was back. Actually, the Career is pretty forgiving as far as accuracy with a wide variety of pellets, but my experience is that there is an optimum velocity range to get the best accuracy. Don't know if its the pellet or the gun. Haven't tried targets at very low velocities.
Sloop
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In Reply to: Re: (new) Chrony... posted by Mitch on August 31, 2000 at 07:24:35:
You make a good point about the co2 gas. Because now that I think about it I was trying to chrony a QB78/22 and a 2250 when I first got the F1 and I could never get a reading until I had backed up at least 5 feet and finally determined that around 15 feet was best on mine.
I had been using a Combro cb-625 that attached to the barrel on my spring gun. I sold the spring gun but still have the Combro. It was just a little hard to attach to the slimmer barrels on the co2 guns which is the reason I got the F1.
Thanks for those tips on using the F1 in the sun because as I said I had all but given up on using it in the sun. I will try some of the things you suggested once I can get outside. Yesterday the ambient temperature was 100 degrees with a heat index of 110. Today is the same. It is intolerable. So I will be sitting in the AC today.But I'll let you know how it works out.
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In Reply to: Yep. And MTD lawn equipment now has it's eye on that domain name...tanj. (nt) posted by scot on August 31, 2000 at 10:05:04:
Warner Bros, the cartoon people, have trademarks on their cartoon characters, including the roadrunner. Roadrunner the computer store doesn't infringe on this trademark, because customers can tell the difference between a computing device and a cartoon bird. However, Network Solutions seem to agree with Warner that nobody else can ever have a web domain containing the character string "roadrunner".
Unfortunately, roadrunner.com now belongs to Time Warner, which uses it to advertise computer internet connection services, not cartoons.
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A lady wrote to our local paper recently and proudly declared that firearm violence had decreased by 20 or 30% in Australia, and suggested that if we implemented similar gun control measures, we would experience the same wonderful result. She also referenced the Australial government URL which I have included below and recommended that those who doubted her facts go check things out for themselves, so I did.
What I found was that all violent crime trends in Ausralia have continued unaltered by their gun confiscation program. Homicide is holding steady, while all other forms of violent crime are increasing, some at alarming rates. Of particular interest is the firearm homicide rate, the one the antigun folks like to talk about. While it is true that gun homicides dropped by 30% following confiscation, the overall number of homicides remains constant. People intent on killing other people have simply turned to other weapons, the lack of availabilty of a firearm didn't slow them down a bit. What a surprise. I don't know about you, but I would just as soon get shot with a gun as be bludgoned to death.
Notice that our friend Aaron also parades the same statistic, drop in *firearm* violence. Do you suppose that Britain is experiencing the same overall crime trends as Australia? Inquiring minds want to know.
http://www.aic.gov.au/stats/facts99/sec3.html#UEWI
Chuck
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In Reply to: Cleaning "Rod " from fishing line. posted by john from NY on August 30, 2000 at 23:02:18:
I don't know if I saw this yesterday on this forum or on another, but one other trick I heard was to cut off a piece of the trimmer line a little longer than the barrel length. Heat one end and form a little ball (smaller than .177 if you want to use it for multiple calibers), sharpen the other end. Thread patches down to the ball, which will hold the patch in place and thread the sharp end from the breech. Pull through. I think I would also go with the cleaner from Silver Streak, but I know there are a lot of do-it-yourselfers on this forum.
docwells
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In Reply to: did i actually say gun controlle works?? posted by revolution on August 31, 2000 at 10:20:53:
Aaron:
I know little about UK motoring laws, but in the USA, anybody who can produce the necessary funding may purchase an automobile. He will, however, need to undergo training and licensing before wielding such a powerful weapon in public. (but may ride a bicycle in public without operator licensing, as bicycles are not considered offensive, rarely killing anyone other than the operator).
In all but the state of Vermont, one must be licensed in order to wield a firearm in public. Some may find it surprising that Vermont has some of the lowest crime rates in the USA. (largely do to the fact that high crime rates are a "city thing", but it's also true that rates of many violent crimes are lower in Vermont than in other low-population states)
Below is a link to an essay written on the differences between car control and gun control in USA:
In Reply to: Eley Wasps ROCK!!! posted by jcbii on August 31, 2000 at 11:09:33:
Try out some RWS Superdomes too, they work well in mine (860 fps - 13.1 lbf-ft). This gun seems a little pellet sensitive in terms of energy transfer.
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In Reply to: Savage 1000 gxp posted by W.R.Craft on August 31, 2000 at 01:31:53:
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In Reply to: also posted by Revolution on August 31, 2000 at 08:17:56:
Even if a nation started with the strictest of gun controls (check your history, there is more than one country that qualifies) you will see that your theory doesn't work.
Even England has seen a rise in criminal activity from armed thugs after guns were banned. wonder why? gun control doesn't stop criminal behavior.
Australia fell into the same trap.
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In Reply to: Golf balls at 100+ posted by DaveG on August 31, 2000 at 08:57:54:
nt
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In Reply to: did i actually say gun controlle works?? posted by revolution on August 31, 2000 at 10:20:53:
In the USA, gun ownership is a right, auto use on pubic roads is a priviledge. Testing may be needed to satisfy a need to determine if a person deserves a priviledge. A right is afforded us by virture of our citizenship.
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In Reply to: Re: to mitch posted by Mitch on August 31, 2000 at 12:03:15:
There lives a 16 year old boy about 200 yards away from my home, who just got an AR15 this month. He bought it through at reduced cost through a government program to promote marksmanship, but it still cost $800 of his own hard-earned cash. He bought it because he wanted to shoot long range target competition, and his .22LR just isn't suitable. I'm sure he would be glad to meet you at any NRA sanctioned 1,000 yard match, and I invite you to demonstrate your skill shooting targets at that range with the airgun of your choice.
You just don't seem to understand that there are literally hundreds of millions of firearms in my country, and the majority never fling a projectile at anything living. If they aren't any good for anything other than killing, why would millions of people buy them and not kill anything with them?
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In Reply to: Red Dot sight adjustment posted by Tom on August 30, 2000 at 19:05:20:
I just had the same problem with a triditional scope and the solution although odd worked for my set up. We just switched the front rings and rear rings which fixed the problem. I was using Leupold rings and bases. Don't know if this helps, but if you have separate rings and bases, you can try it. What do you have to lose.
Good Luck,
docwells
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In Reply to: 1322C pump neglected Why? posted by Douglas on August 30, 2000 at 14:29:20:
I guess for the purpose intended, a good backpacking gun, it does the trick. After all you only need one shot to make a meal, right?
I'll be working on this "economical" sleeper and that includes power mods.
Let's hear more from actual owners!
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In Reply to: IZH-46; Any experience with one? posted by Ugo Nessuno on August 30, 2000 at 18:29:08:
Love mine, it definitely shoots better than I do, although that's not saying much, yet. Have to second what Reedy said, Pilkington's target talk is where I got most of the info that led me to purchase mine. I really haven't heard anything bad about it.
Good luck,
docwells
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In Reply to: RWS-54--Dwg [url] posted by Sidelever_Freak on August 31, 2000 at 12:04:37:
near bottom of Rolaand Marten's page [url]
In Reply to: RWS-48--Dwg [url] posted by Sidelever_Freak on August 31, 2000 at 12:00:46:
bookmark it
In Reply to: to mitch posted by revolution on August 31, 2000 at 10:24:30:
I will say shoot at targets, because that's where at least 98% of all firearms ammo in the USA gets sent, at inanimate targets.
I was wrong when I called you ignorant, you are just too stupid to learn anything.
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In Reply to: Re: RWS-52--Dwg. Question posted by Richard Cummins on August 31, 2000 at 00:11:25:
bookmark it
In Reply to: Leupold 6.5 x 20 EFR good for hunting and plinking? posted by Jerry on August 31, 2000 at 11:49:21:
If you do want a Leupold, and some of your shooting will be under 20 yards, then you are limited to the 3x9EFR and 6-20EFR.
So you have to ask yourself if the ability to go under 6.5x is more important than the ability to go over 9x. I often find myself doing backyard plinking at 20x, but I'm sure I'd still find it enjoyable at 9x.
Two other considerations are that the 6.5-20 weighs more, is longer, and costs more.
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In Reply to: Reloading Crosman 1100 shotshells posted by Wallace Berry on August 31, 2000 at 10:41:47:
I use the sheet cork mentioned below, you can make a punch out of old cartridge cases if you own firearms.Just cut the case off and coninually sharpen the edges with a deburring tool.Other things for making wads - heavy cardstock or even cardboard.The "dipper" method of using a shell case(anything to hold shot)seems to work well. My favorite loads are made using #12 shot - the same size used in 22 shells.If you come up with anthing new let us know - always looking for new loads. I have mine bulked, does anyone have a extension tube on one?
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I am ready to purchase a scope for my .22 Venom HW-80 and had a final question. I will mostly use my gun for backyard target shooting and some small game hunting. Is the 6.5 x 20 EFR a good all around scope, or is the magnification too high for my uses? I do want a Leupold because I have had them in the past and they are excellent. thanks, JD
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In Reply to: Daystate Sportsmen Mk III information needed posted by AirMonkey on August 31, 2000 at 10:28:58:
E-mail Rodney Boyce or Airguns of Arizona. I'm shure they will know.
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One illustration of a multipump airgun I've seen shows the forward-underbarrrel-grip (I don't know the right term) cocking in a lever-like motion (illustration at http://www.airguns.net/airtypes.html). Are there also designs that pump with a back and forth motion like working a pump shotgun? Does anyone know which way the Daisy Powerline multipumps pump? (Or how much wood a woodchuck can chuck?)
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I just ordered a new exhaust valve assembly and piston assembly for a pre 1975 Crosman 760 but I have no idea how to remove the old exhaust valve.
Can anyone instruct me on this? Are there any special tools required? Thank you, Eric
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See you folks in a couple of weeks.
I'm out the door for vacation, then a business trip to my old stomping grounds in Baja Mexico.
I wish I could take the Career 707 on that trip to do a little ground squirrel hunting...ah well.
Happy shooting.....I'm gone.
Jack
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In Reply to: Re: CA707 Accuracy? posted by Marty Silver Streak on August 31, 2000 at 00:03:21:
I'm just a plinker and pest hunter.
My 707 in .20 caliber with 14.3 grain Crosman Premiers will hit what I aim for if I do my part.
I've only had it a few weeks now...but have made clean head shots on starlings at 60+ yards, sparrows at 50+. At 10-20 yards it will boringly make one small hole all day long. I don't normally shoot at critters over 70 yards...but that is due to my lack, not the Career's!
The previous owner took groundhogs with Korean heavy pellets at 80+ yards.
hth, Jack
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In Reply to: Re: Reloading Crosman 1100 shotshells posted by DougWall on August 31, 2000 at 11:00:59:
All the things mentiones above should work as well as 1/8" thick sheet cork (at a craft store) cut into wads. Simple solution? Toilet tisue stuff 1 sheet into one end dump in some #12 shot from a small cup(I use a 1 cup measuring cup it has a pour spout) leave room on top for a second TP wad. Load in gun and shoot! Works well enough for gove work. also workd for the 77 grain 375 dia round balls too. try these they are great fun but have a solid back shop they hit pretty hard.
Enjoy it its a blast. works well for carpenter bee's as well sort of moveable skeet
James L
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If the calculations/Chrony readings are correct, I got 13.45ftlbs of Muzzle Energy using these pellets in my Vulcan Carbine III. All other pellets I tried were between 11 & 12ftlbs. I think my Vulcan found some new friends.
jcbii
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In Reply to: Re: is this gun any good? posted by bing on August 31, 2000 at 08:19:50:
The Gamo Stutzen should not really be confussed with it's BSA couterpart... They are not the same gun, and do not share the same quality. The BSA was a much better gun. The new Gamo stutzen is basically a CF-30 in a different stock. It has a pop up loading port, just as does the CF-30, not the rotary configuration found on the newer BSA's. The Gamo is typical Gamo... It has decent power, and a not so decent trigger... The wood on the Stutzen is a little nicer than the standard Gamo grade stuff... But not much. For my tastes the Gamo is a bit high priced for it's performance/quality package, although I will say that the CF-30, or Stutzen are the only two rifles they presently offer that I would consider purchasing... However, personally, I'd spend that amount of money on something that has a Rekord trigger...
Regards,
DaveG
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In Reply to: Reloading Crosman 1100 shotshells posted by Wallace Berry on August 31, 2000 at 10:41:47:
I seem to remember something from way back about using foam meat tray material for wads. Posterboard would probably also work. You just need to find a punch the right size (automotive gasket punch?). You could make a dipper measure for the shot out of a 9mm cartridge case.
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In Reply to: Re: (new) Chrony... posted by Sammy on August 31, 2000 at 03:43:30:
I have a Crosman 160 and a Crosman 600 that I will eventually want to test, so its good to know about this problem (CO2).
Really, I never planned on using mine outdoors (unless I decide to test some of my firearms, which is doubtful), as the setup in my garage is perfect for all of the airguns I have.
jcbii
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Just fulfilled a childhood dream and got a Crosman CO2 shotgun. These things are great fun. The wife and I have been shooting Ritz cracker skeet off the back deck. One has to be quick on the trigger to get good hits since the shot spreads out pretty quickly. CO2 cartridges get expensive so I'll be getting the bulk fill adapters for it from Mac-1.
Now I'm looking for information on reloading the shotshells for this thing. I've got shells and shot. Anyone have tips on making the shot wads? Materials that work well as wads, ways to cut out or form wads?
Thanks to everyone who answered my previous questions on the possibility of shooting steel shot and sources for shotshells. The barrel on this gun is indeed aluminum and therefore not able to withstand shooting steel shot. Lead it will be.
Shoot safely and often. Wallace
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In Reply to: Peter please help. Look inside. posted by Cody Dotter on August 30, 2000 at 19:29:07:
I am just about posotive it was an RWS 54 or 52, and was shooting at Superdome pellets.
-john-
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In Reply to: Re: is this gun any good? posted by bing on August 31, 2000 at 08:19:50:
nt
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In Reply to: Any disagreement that this election REALLY matters? (nt) posted by Dick Kelso on August 30, 2000 at 16:07:12:
Got any better ideas?
Does anyone have information on the Sportsmen MkIII's availability, release date, price etc?
thank you,
Jeff
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In Reply to: Let's throw all the Bumsout !!! posted by Charles. on August 31, 2000 at 03:50:44:
The scary fact of it is that the right-wing militia cult loonies are right: The governement is going to slowly take away life and freedom. Of course, it's all going to be supported by the 'majority', and it's all going to be in the name of "public safety".
The time has come to knock it down and start over...
-Zero the Inestimable
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In Reply to: Interesting Information that all should be aware of: posted by R. Malinka on August 30, 2000 at 15:19:25:
*sigh*
Here it goes. And it's even worse than I envisioned it. This is only one in a long term chain of events (a lot of which have already happened) that is going to steadily tear the world apart. Strap yourselves in and enjoy the ride. I know I will...
Armed conflict is inevitable. Sooner or later one side will blink.
-Zero the Inestimable
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In Reply to: Re: also posted by Mitch on August 31, 2000 at 10:19:33:
ok what else would you use a fire arm for apart from killing things? Dont say shoot at targets or anything like that because a low powered air gun is very capeable of doing that acuratly without the power to kill someone.
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In Reply to: Re: also posted by gruny on August 31, 2000 at 09:01:45:
guns were never freely available in the uk and there has been a huge reduction in firearm crime since handguns were banned, explain that. Yes there will allways be a black market for guns or anything else which becomes illegal like drugs. Restrictions will never cure a problem, it may make things better and in some cases make things worse. Don't you think it's ironic that your only able to own an automobile after you have been tested suitable to own one. To my knowledge you don't need to undergo any kind of training to own a hand gun in the usa (i could be wrong correct me if i am) just because you don't have a criminal record doesn't mean your not going to use a firearm for criminal purposes
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In Reply to: FAC power from springer posted by hooper on August 31, 2000 at 08:00:14:
Some guns in Canada (I don't know about anywhere else) are de-tuned with a weaker spring to fire at less than 500 fps. With springers, It is often as simple as ordering a new mainspring from the ma
mnufacturer because it is the stock original. Hope that helps.
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In Reply to: also posted by Revolution on August 31, 2000 at 08:17:56:
"Fire arms are designed to kill only and civilians should not be able to own one wether criminal or law abiding."
And that was why I called you ignorant.
There are many reasons to own a firearm that have nothing to do with killing humans, and many of those reasons have nothing to do with killing ANYTHING.
But even if we only talk about killing people, do you really expect to lower the murder rate by making guns disappear? If one really wanted to kill you, what's to stop him from sticking a knife in you, or strangling you, or using a car? I mentioned cars because they were the only weapon I could think of offhand that are in common supply and more dangerous than the sort of guns commonly held in private hands. You can kill more people by running a car into a crowd than by shooting into the same crowd.
In Reply to: also posted by Revolution on August 31, 2000 at 08:17:56:
I DO believe I detect a bit of envy here!? This from an E-mail I received
Subject: Gun Control
Thought this was interesting information. This came from a friend, whose
friend Liz lives in Australia. Fanny Dell
"Hi Yanks, I thought you all would like to see the real figures from Down
Under.
It has now been 12 months since gun owners in Australia were forced by new
law to surrender 640,381 personal firearms to be destroyed by our own
government, a program costing Australia taxpayers more than $500 million
dollars. The first year results are now in:
Australia-wide, homicides are up 3.2 percent.
Australia-wide, assaults are up 8.6 percent.
Australia-wide, armed robberies are up 44 percent (yes, 44 percent!)
In the state of Victoria alone, homicides with firearms are now up
300 percent. (Note that while the law-abiding citizens turned guns in, the
criminals did not and criminals still possess their guns!)
While figures over the previous 25 years showed a steady decrease in armed
robbery with firearms, this has changed drastically upward in the past 12
months, since the criminals now are guaranteed that their prey is unarmed.
There has also been a dramatic increase in break-ins and assaults of the
elderly.
Australian politicians are at a loss to explain how public safety has
decreased, after such monumental effort and expense was expended in
successfully ridding Australian society of guns.
You won't see these data on the American evening news or hear your governor
or members of the state Assembly disseminating this information.
The Australian experience proves it. Guns in the hands of honest citizens
save lives and property and yes, gun-control laws affect only the law-abiding
citizens.
Take note Americans, before it's too late!"
Gun control works, huh!!!!????
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In Reply to: also posted by Revolution on August 31, 2000 at 08:17:56:
If America had never allowed legal guns, illegal ones would be imported by those who really wanted them for crimes, or stolen from the military (in spite of legal guns, there are a lot of stolen military weapons floating around here).
If the whole world had never allowed private weapons sales, and prevented the theft of all military weapons, then the criminals would just have to make them, and you can bet that they would mainly be crude single-shots (zip guns) and full-autos.
It would not be hard to make black-market SMGs for $200-500.
And then there is the real danger, that of governments being able to kill far more unarmed citizens than the private criminals could ever hope to. Nazi-lead exterminations in Europe were just a small fraction of the total murdered by their own governments in the 1900's, so don't say it can't happen now.
Canada solved a city-wide general strike by gunning down the strikers, USA murdered a crowd of student protesters, and several other countries killed millions of their own citizens.
In Reply to: www.mtd.com/tasty/ posted by Mitch on August 31, 2000 at 07:36:48:
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In Reply to: daystate mirage posted by scott on August 30, 2000 at 20:24:24:
I have played around with thew mirage a couple of times, and it is a fun little gun... That being said, no matter what you run through it, you are very limited on the amount of useful shots, so if you don't mind filling quite frequently it will be OK...
Regards,
DaveG
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In Reply to: Re: Dove Season posted by bcd on August 30, 2000 at 23:29:40:
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In Reply to: Does Crosman sell parts directly? Same question Mac1. posted by Brian on August 31, 2000 at 01:29:17:
I've ordered parts from Precision Pellet (check the "Airgun Resources" links on this site); his prices are quite a bit lower than ordering direct from Crosman. Also, when you talk to a repair center, you're likely talking to the guy who actually works on the airguns. When you talk to Crosman, you're talking to a salesperson, who probably knows almost nothing about the guns, and can't answer any but the most basic questions.
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In Reply to: Re: Weaver T-10 Target Scopes posted by Joe R on August 30, 2000 at 22:29:26:
NT
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In Reply to: Dove Season posted by chasm on August 30, 2000 at 22:00:24:
LOL
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In Reply to: Actually I think, unforunately... posted by docwells on August 31, 2000 at 08:56:58:
Here's a story about the domain:
http://www.abcnews.go.com/sections/tech/DailyNews/peta000621.html
docwells
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In Reply to: Bushnell Elite 4200 4-16x50 Adj.Obj posted by JmD on August 30, 2000 at 12:22:33:
A very nice scope but, I couldn't find it for less than about $ 415 mail order , The Leupold 4.5 x 14 - 50 mm AO Vari X III can be bought for about $ 479 mail order. The Leupold is EASILY a better scope , and the money is not that much different. Good Luck
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In Reply to: Help identify German airpistol posted by Richard Cummins on August 31, 2000 at 00:25:44:
Richard:
Just to comment on what Trevor & Russ mentioned. The most common ( seen in US ) Record break barrel was the LP3 or LP3A. The Jumbo mentioned by Russ resembles a small automatic pistol. Record guns are available. I believe that Joshua Ungier at Pryamid Stone imports them now. You can find a link to Pryamid in the web links section.
Al
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In Reply to: Cleaning " Rod " from fishing line. posted by john from NY on August 30, 2000 at 23:02:18:
For a smoother loop try a "line-to-leader-loop-connector" (for flyfishing) available at fly shops everywhere and possibly Wal-Mart.
good luck,
Jeff
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In Reply to: also posted by Revolution on August 31, 2000 at 08:17:56:
You need a course in logic.
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In Reply to: Re: CA707 Accuracy? posted by Marty Silver Streak on August 31, 2000 at 00:03:21:
Is real doable! I frequently take my 707 in .22 out to the 100 yard range, and using cp's I can hit a golf ball out on a bank behind the 100 yard stands, say at 110-115 yards at about 80%.
My 707 in .177 groups very consistantly, almost as well as a CR-X. While in Minnesota at the worlds, I was hitting the plastic liners from the inside of shot shells out at 65 yards on a regular basis.
Regards,
DaveG
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In Reply to: It exists--in fact, People Eating Tasty Animals owns the URL www.peta.org... posted by scot on August 30, 2000 at 17:24:43:
it was decided in PETA's favor. Doesn't really seem right. If PETA had been on the ball they would have registered the domaine right away. Sounds like crying over spilled milk to me. Oh that's right they don't drink milk.
I love tasty animals...
docwells
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In Reply to: It exists--in fact, People Eating Tasty Animals owns the URL www.peta.org... posted by scot on August 30, 2000 at 17:24:43:
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In Reply to: When and where and who started the anti-gun hysteria? posted by Dwight C. on August 29, 2000 at 16:03:11:
At the moment here in the UK, we are practically certain that our pathetic government are to introduce licensing for airguns in the next few months in an effort 'to cut crime'. Out of upwards of four million airguns in our country, there are about eight thousand plus crimes reported yearly.
The licensing will rely on airgun owners surrendering their details to the police, we will have to have our homes inspected, and have to keep our airguns in £200 metal cabinets bolted to the wall, just like owners of hunting rifles and full-power shotguns do, and the licenses will cost about 100 dollars, we don't know yet whether it's for one year or five. How many young people can afford this?
Since the criminals who break the law with their airguns will not volunteer their details to the police what is the point?
Don't let this happen where you live.....
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In Reply to: Re: Sceen shot of upcoming web site.... posted by Mikey on August 30, 2000 at 21:26:46:
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In Reply to: is this gun any good? posted by michael on August 31, 2000 at 00:10:22:
I have owned a stutzen for over ten years, in fact it was the first precision airgun I ever owned! It is concidered by many to be among the best looking air rifles ever!! BSA is known for there excelent quality, and performace. The older ones had a tap loading system were as the new MKII's have rotary breech, very easy to use.
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In Reply to: Re: i expected such a comment, everyone is entitled to their own views nt posted by revolution on August 31, 2000 at 07:44:29:
If America had strict gun laws to begin with there wouldn't be such a major problem with gun owning criminals now. So the problem will never be resloved. If anti gun laws were to be enforced now, as you said you would have little to protect yourself from the people who misuse firearms. The argument you put forward concearning automobiles is irrelivent. Auto mobiles are designed to get people from a to b and life is hard without one yes the do kill people but they are not designed to do so. Fire arms are designed to kill only and civilians should not be able to own one wether criminal or law abiding. I changed my name to revolution not to hide my identity but to the subject matter. I don't expect any of you to agree with my views because you have been brought up to know nothing else but a world where firearms are not uncommon.
Regards
Aaron (self-righteous brit :oÞ)
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I have recently taken up airgunning and have
an old Spanish made Norica rifle which was given
to me. I already have a fire arms certificate in
the UK and am intereested to know if and how I
can get more power from it. It is a basic .22
springer. Can anyone give me any pointers on
getting what I would need, or any web sites
which would be of use? thanks for your help
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In Reply to: Re: Sheridan rifles posted by Mitch on August 31, 2000 at 07:15:51:
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In Reply to: Re: I read an article on the tommy gun from the 30s posted by Art on August 30, 2000 at 23:43:57:
In Reply to: Re: It exists--in fact, People Eating Tasty Animals owns the URL www.peta.org... posted by jr99 on August 31, 2000 at 00:48:55:
In Reply to: Nope. posted by John Sa. on August 31, 2000 at 02:18:35:
Jerry Rhodes has mentioned that while you cannot hunt game in TX with an airgun, you can hunt non-game with one. So cottontails might be out, but you can legally hunt mountain lions with an airgun. ;-)
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In Reply to: Re: (new) Chrony... posted by Sammy on August 31, 2000 at 03:43:30:
Sammy:
Are you using Co2? I've had problems with CO2 guns under 3-5 feet some times, because of the foggy coud of CO2 confusing the sensors.
When the sun is really bright and not directly overhead, I use the diffusers (generally set up low without the rod extentions) and tilt the unit so that the sensors are in the shade. I have also sometimes put a sheet of paper across the two diffusers to eliminate light getting past the diffusers and hitting the sensor areas directly.
Initially, I tried to aim closer to the sensors when having problems, it took a while to figure out that only increased my chances of shooting the chrony and decreased my chances of getting a good reading. Mine seems to prefer the pellet to be several inches over the sensors, and it doesn't hurt to be dead center instead of off to the side.
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In Reply to: Re: Sheridan rifles posted by Revolution on August 31, 2000 at 05:04:26:
Aaron:
Why use the pseudonym? We all know who you are?
The 15 "kids" a day you mention are mostly old enough to be charges as adults in criminal court (17-21 years old) and almost all are killed by each other. (guns are tools, no more capable of killing without human assistance than are automobiles)
The reason they kill each other is they are gang members and drug dealers. If you want to blame laws for these mostly unlamentable deaths, blame the drug prohibition. These are the sort of people who would be armed whether it be legal or not, and in virtually all cases, they obtained their guns illegally. Disarming the law-abiding would have no effect, other than to remove our ability to defend ourselves from such criminals.
So take your self-righteous ignorance and shove it.
In Reply to: Hmmmmmmmmmmmm posted by Gary on August 30, 2000 at 21:31:47:
Tried that the arrows correct it the right way. Thanks
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In Reply to: Re: may be adios! posted by Joe Whittaker on August 30, 2000 at 16:25:25:
I am not at home right now, but from what I can remember it said something like "server forbidden". I tried about 5 or 6 times before giving up.
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In Reply to: Good Luck, jj and... posted by Wade on August 30, 2000 at 15:44:06:
Wade,
You are absolutely correct. I have accumualated
over a month of vacation time. The new department will not accept vacation time transfer so the current department will have to cash it out. The good news is, it did enable me to purchase a Nightforce.:-)
The bad news is, I will not be able to get time off for a very long time. So I regret that I will not be able to attend, least for now.:-(
However, I will do all I can to get off for the Nationals in Miss. next year. So maybe I will see ya then.
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In Reply to: Who in the U.S. sells Eley Wasps? posted by Charles H. on August 31, 2000 at 04:24:44:
Mac-1
In Reply to: Did you get it in US, or England? If in US -- WHERE ?!?nt posted by Lloyd S. on August 30, 2000 at 13:28:41:
I bought mine second-hand from a fellow in Arizona. I beleive he got it from England. Mine is a .22 caliber. You might check with Ron Sauls, I think he brought one or two in the US. His URL is in the Web Links... Bryant & Associates, I think.
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In Reply to: Help identify German airpistol posted by Richard Cummins on August 31, 2000 at 00:25:44:
Its a Record (F.Barthelmes)pistol.Either Model 1,2,3,68 or 77. One has a simple fixed rear sight,Two han adjustable rearsight and white grips,seventy seven has a "spacegun'grip with ribbed barrel,the sixty eight is BIG and is distinguished by the large trigger adjusting knob in front of the triggerguard.
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In Reply to: Re: Who in the U.S. sells Eley Wasps? posted by Joe Whittaker on August 31, 2000 at 04:50:02:
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In Reply to: Re: Sheridan rifles posted by Barry on August 30, 2000 at 19:04:11:
Ah yes the American revolution. Because of your less resticted gun laws 15 school kids are killed each day by fire arms, which is unexeptable. Is it worth it to sacrafice kids and many other civilian lives so you can have fun in the feild with your fancy high powered rifle. It's an American tradition to be able to own a firearm and nothing is going to change that. And also the majority of people who own these high powered firarms treat them with respect and great care. Yet there are people out there who abuse them and let them fall into the hand of kids.
also the pro hunter has a brass barrel not steel
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In Reply to: Who in the U.S. sells Eley Wasps? posted by Charles H. on August 31, 2000 at 04:24:44:
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In Reply to: Are you crazy, suicidel or both? posted by Charles H. on August 31, 2000 at 04:46:12:
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In Reply to: Re: " for all you nuts.... " [USENET] posted by Slick on August 30, 2000 at 21:48:00:
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In Reply to: NIGHT FORCE SCOPES Who sells them??? posted by Troy on August 30, 2000 at 17:40:03:
scopeusout-vey $$$$$ scopes. some used ones appear on Brads site.
I tried the Old Western Scrounger But I could not even get through. Please help. Thanks. Charles H.
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In Reply to: silencers posted by Head-Shot Rabbit on August 29, 2000 at 17:38:08:
I can confirm that Silencers are currently definitely legal here in the UK, though we expect to be losing many of our airguns to new legislation due soon.
We tend to call them 'moderators' as they tend to just muffle the sound rather than silence it. The best (most expensive) are useful for hunting.
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In Reply to: Re: VOTE REPUBLICAN; Keep your guns for 30% longer. posted by BSJ on August 30, 2000 at 18:32:29:
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In Reply to: Has Anyone Chronographed a CR 2240 with a 29 grain daesung pellet? posted by Michael on August 30, 2000 at 17:58:16:
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In Reply to: Re: (new) Chrony... posted by jcbii on August 31, 2000 at 02:33:06:
I have a reburfished F1 and I find that I have to be around 15 feet away to get good readings. Also in reference to its use outdoors, I find that I cannot even use mine at all in direct sunlight or with clear skies even with the diffusers intstalled. I have to use it almost exclusively on cloudy days. But they do tell you about it in the manual. Curious to know how yours performs outdoors.
Good luck
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In Reply to: Benjamin Franklin pellet gun?? posted by Dan on August 29, 2000 at 12:32:09:
It's a shooter. See my Benjamin book website to find out the year of manufacture. Value depends almost entirely on condition.
DT Fletcher
In Reply to: Re: Dove Season posted by bcd on August 30, 2000 at 23:29:40:
I did'nt know that my home state allows turkey huntig with an airgun!
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In Reply to: Re: CA707 Accuracy? posted by Slick on August 30, 2000 at 23:58:34:
Mine consistanly shoots sub-MOA with Dae-Sung heavy domes. My father-in-law goes to the range with me occasionally and takes great delight in breaking Ritz Crackers at 100yds with an "Airgun" while I tried to match him with a Kimber model-82 rimfire. I also love to make .68cal painballs explode, but they're a bit more of a challenge to hit. I only average about 50% hits on these at 100yds.
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In Reply to: Re: I will have to check out some Canadian websites and see whats available... Thanks for the reply Dave (nt) posted by Lew on August 30, 2000 at 21:01:47:
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In Reply to: Re: Vulcan Carbine III - .22cal -- Performance Test posted by Sammy on August 31, 2000 at 01:59:28:
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In Reply to: Re: (new) Chrony... posted by arlin on August 31, 2000 at 02:04:38:
Yea, I bought it from FSI. In the catolog, it said "Delta" model. FSI emailed me to say I would not be getting the Delta model, but the newer "Alpha" model. I ended up receiving the "Archery" model, but the front panel with the digital display says "Shooting Chrony - Model F-1". The catalog says that the Archery Chrony is the same as the F-1 Chrony, except that it doesn't have the jack for the external LCD Monitor. Mine has the jack, so I figure I actually have the F-1 model installed on the Archery Case. Who knows?
Anyway, I got it today so have only used it this evening with the included set of indoor lights. It recorded all shots without a problem. So far I am happy, but one day isn't enough to say anything concrete about performance/reliability. I mainly plan to use it indoors, so don't know how long it will be before I get a chance to use it outdoors without the lights attached.
Now about the question concerning the distance of the muzzle from the chrony. I tried to keep the muzzle at about 1". I figure that the distance is less significant with firearms, but probably a little more important with airguns if you want accurate readings. Actually, I was planning on asking someone a little more "seasoned" with chrony's than myself - like Russ Best.
In regards to this particular Chrony, I just jumped in head first without asking anyone for advice. Figured that I need to do that every now and then! ha
regards,
jcbii
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In Reply to: As long as you have a class 3 permit for it, you can probably use one. posted by Mom T on August 29, 2000 at 23:41:29:
While it is sometimes possible (depending upon the opinion of the local Chief Law Enforcement Officer) to legally acquire a silencer in TX (not easy or inexpensive but possible), it is illegal to hunt with them.
Page 62 of the '1999-2000 Texas Parks & Wildlife Outdoor Annual Official Hunting & Fishing Regulations' states under the heading of:
"Game animals and game birds may be hunted with any legal firearm EXCEPT:"
"Firearms equipped with silencers or sound-suppressing devices are NOT LEGAL" (their emphasis)
By the way, under the same heading concerning hunting weapons, there is another entry which states:
"Pellet guns and other air guns are NOT LEGAL" (again, their emphasis)
By the way, I picked up this little booklet free of charge at the sporting goods section of Wal-Mart. I imagine similar information is available in other states wherever hunting and fishing licences are sold.
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In Reply to: Does Crosman sell parts directly? Same question Mac1. posted by Brian on August 31, 2000 at 01:29:17:
Email them for a parts list, then call their 800 number to order what you need.
HTH,
Ed
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In Reply to: Re-stated... posted by jcbii on August 31, 2000 at 01:52:55:
is it a "Chrony" brand ?
so, which model did you get??
I getting close to trying an F1.
I can easily write an Excel spreadsheet to
do the stats... and 'shoot/write/pump/load'
is not a bad sequence... ;)
Do you have any trouble with sunlight/lights ?
Do you need a 'reference' bar as to where the
muzzle sits ?? or does in inch or two make
no difference..?
any Comments pro/con about what you got,
or advice for someone about to do the same??
thanks.
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In Reply to: Vulcan Carbine III - .22cal -- Performance Test posted by jcbii on August 31, 2000 at 01:42:08:
Eley Wasps in .22 are 14.7 grains.
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In Reply to: Collectors Corner---- The BSA Scorpion pistol posted by RBest on August 28, 2000 at 19:44:33:
Mike Driskill told me of this thread, so I fished out my .177 Scorpion fitted out with a Beeman muzzle brake & the no-longer-available-but-vastly-underrated Beeman 5020 cheapie 1.5x pistol scope.
At 10m with my right forearm braced against an adjacent building's corner, and a two-handed artillery hold, I managed to put 5 unsized Wasps into just over 3/4" ctc @10m. It does bounce around vigorously when you touch it off, but a light application of some of Mike's white Beeman silicone compound to the spring through the cocking slot silenced a noticeable twang several years back.
When my P1 was chrono'ing 6.9gr. Hobbies @ 570fps, the Scorpion was pushing them out at 560fps. I have it set up to hit dead on at 25yds. which was the range Mike set up the ram silhouette target in his old backyard. We could consistently "tink" the rams over with the Scorpion at this distance. While the P1 is a superb airpistol with great conventional sights, the Scorpion is wasted with only its iron sights. It's hefty enough that the addition of the light scope & muzzle weight help rather than hurt the pleasure of hitting things at the sort of distances at which the Scorpion can be used.
I seem to remember an airgunning friend, Rick Eick of Wisconsin, telling me of having seen one of the last batches of Scorpions imported by one of our better-known airgun purveyors going for $175 new in box. I think this was around '91-'92 or so.
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In Reply to: Daisy 777 RWS 6M, if anyone is interested here are posted by jcbii on August 31, 2000 at 01:49:48:
RWS 6M
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406.3 Silver Bears
327.8 RWS Meisters
365.3 CPLs
403.1 Silver Jets
Daisy 777
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359.1 Silver Bears
347.2 RWS Meisters
319.1 CPLs
323.7 Silver Jets
Hopefully, this looks better.
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some fps ratings (5 shot Average) with four different pellets:
RWS 6M Daisy 777
406.3 359.1 Silver Bears
327.8 347.2 RWS Meisters
365.3 319.1 CPLs
403.1 323.7 Silver Jets
Hey, I got a new Chrony - what else am I going to do?
jcbii
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In Reply to: Re: Cleaning " Rod " from fishing line. posted by john from NY on August 30, 2000 at 23:57:58:
Definitely send Marty the 5 dollars. It is well worth it. Very effective and easy to use.
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I mentioned awhile ago that I would post the performance ratings I got with my Vulcan III (.22cal) when I purchased a Chrony. Well, I did, so here are some fps ratings with various pellets:
Meisters (13.9g)
611.3
609.1
596.9
598.4
603.5
Avg = 603.8 / Muzzle Energy(M.E.) = 11.2 ftlbs
Crosman Premiers (14.3g)
590.4
601.2
587.8
595.3
592.5
Avg = 593.4 / M.E. = 11.1 ftlbs
Beeman FTS (15.07g)
616.0
616.9
618.9
621.1
617.2
Avg = 618.0 / M.E. = 12.7ft lbs
Beeman Trophys (14.0g)
635.4
610.9
638.5
616.6
614.9
Avg = 623.3 / M.E. = 12.08 ftlbs
Eley Wasps (?)
639.3
642.9
640.9
641.1
646.2
Avg = 642.1 / M.E. = ?
The Eley Wasps fit the tightest and where the hands down winner in my book for consistency and velocity. I would like to know what the weight of the Eley Wasp .22cal pellet is, as I am sure this was the hands down winner for the highest M.E. generated with this gun. I would rate the FTS pellets as 2nd place winners as they were very consistent from shot to shot. Didn't include accuracy though, so results concerning overall best pellet for this gun may be different.
Crosman Premiers, Beeman Trophys, and RWS Meisters all fit pretty loosely in this gun, so may account for inconsistency in fps between shots.
Well, thats all.
JCBII
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In Reply to: Re: The AA100 -- how accurate is it? posted by Cody Dotter on August 30, 2000 at 19:41:06:
AA100 is short for Air Arms 100. I don't know how much they were... they're no longer available, having been superseded by the Air Arms Pro Target, which is a Field Target rifle.
Having said that, the Air Arms 100 rifle "has won more matches than any other PCP", and it's still widely used these days, although hard to get secondhand since whoever has one will sit on it.
Group sizes at 25 yards are an effort in minimalism.
peter
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In Reply to: Cody I believe Peter was talking about shooting his.... posted by Marty Silver Streak on August 30, 2000 at 23:48:20:
Air Arms 100, a PCP rifle that is no longer available.
peter
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I would like to know who manufactured this air rifel for Savage. and if there has been any test or comparison on it.
thanks.
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I read an earlier post about installing a 2250 barrel on a 2240, etc. and it appears to be a very easy operation. However I see nothing on the Crosman site indicating that they sell any parts seperately.
On the same note, does Mac1 sell their custom parts directly, or do you have to have them do the work? I like their extended probe modification and I'd like to get their lighter trigger spring, but this is stuff I can install myself -- instead of sending my gun to them and paying for shipping and labor.
Please enlighten an ignorant soul. ;^) Thx.
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In Reply to: 1322C pump neglected Why? posted by Douglas on August 30, 2000 at 14:29:20:
I have the following pellet pistols
1. FWB 65 Mk1 recoilless target pistol, spring piston powered, $1000 retail. 525 fps.
2. Beeman P1 Magnum spring piston pistol $350 retail, 600 fps
3. S&W (Umarex) CO2 revolver 10 Shot, $180 retail, 400fps
4. RWS C225 (Umarex) CO2 8 shot, $180 retail, 410fps.
5. 1377 Crosman pump up, $50 retail, 550fps
Guess which one I shoot the most--yup, the 1377.
1. I don't have to go get it out of the safe or put it up afterwards--I don't care what happens to it, so it stays handy.
2. I don't have to mess with a CO2 cartridge either at the beginning or end of my shooting session.
3. It's not the most accurate airgun I have, but unless I'm having a really good day, it's more accurate than I am.
4. It's near the top end of the power spectrum for the pistols I have, but if I don't want that much power for some reason, I can control the power level.
5. I don't have to worry about what happens to it.
What I don't like about the 1377.
1. The loading port is too big and pellets can get sideways--you're interested in the 1322 which doesn't have this problem.
2. The receiver is plastic--if your gun starts leaking between the reservoir and the receiver, it's hard to get it stopped. On the other hand, I have heard lots of people who never had this problem.
3. The trigger is pretty hard--this can be helped to a certain extent.
4. The sights are not great.
Summary.
My 1377 is a good gun for $50 unless you really don't like pump airguns. I've shot mine a lot over the 13 or so years I've owned it, and if it ever gives up, I'll replace it with another 13XX pistol. I've killed a couple of English Sparrows and more than a couple of Starlings with it. In fact, although it is illegal in my state, so I would never do it and of course, can't endorse it either, I have heard of people (very reliable people whom I trust as I do myself) taking red squirrels with a 1377.
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In Reply to: Re: Simmons Scope Question.. posted by docwells on August 30, 2000 at 12:27:39:
Damn - that's one sweet deal.
I was just about to order one aswell (I've had my eye out for one of those rests for some time), but I read the fine print and it said the offer was only open to people in the USA.
Damn - I'm in NZ.
LOL
Chris
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In Reply to: Re: Cleaning " Rod " from fishing line. posted by jr99 on August 31, 2000 at 00:35:56:
Thanks for the tip, I'll have to get some 100lb leader material. by the way, what kind of patches do you use? (it's a .177)
thanks-
john
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In Reply to: Re: I read an article on the tommy gun from the 30s posted by Art on August 30, 2000 at 23:43:57:
i have seen many subguns and machineguns for sale and yes they are quite expensive. An m16A2 costs the u.s. government about 450 dollars, but for a citizen to get one , he needs the class 3 license a 200 dollar registration and about 6000-8000 dollars for the gun. and you can get submachineguns that are newer than 1986, i have seen plenty of mp5's new in the box. but the cheapest submachinegun i have seen is around 1200-1500 for an imi m10 (otherwise known as mac 10)
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In Reply to: Re: 1322C pump neglected Why? posted by arlin on August 30, 2000 at 16:16:31:
Low Power?? I've long liked my older 1322, which yields 450fps w/ 12gr. Hobbies = 5.4 ft/lb. My 1377 yields 550fps w/ 7.0gr. Hobbies for 4.7 ft/lb.
With heavier pellets, you get slightly lower velocities with commensurately higher energies.
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In Reply to: comments and reviews please on... posted by steve on August 31, 2000 at 00:42:48:
P1
2.5 lbs
11.0 inches long
Spring piston powered
Spring induced recoil
velocity up to 600 fps in .177
Like all spring piston pistols it is difficult for some to shoot it accurately, however, for those who stick with it, it is phenomenally accurate.
P3
1.7 lbs
9.6 inches long.
One stroke pneumatic
Recoilless
Velocity around 410 fps in .177
The recoilless operation makes this pistol easy to shoot accurately.
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In Reply to: comments and reviews please on... posted by steve on August 31, 2000 at 00:42:48:
The P1 definitely wins in terms of power, with the P3 only doing a little over 400 fps, but the P3 is a dream to shoot. Basically no recoil, and a trigger that will spoil you in short order. I own both, but hardly shoot the P1 anymore, because the P3 is such a joy and very easy to shoot accurately. When you factor in the price, ($129 at AAA Sporting Goods) the P3 is a "must have" for any air pistol shooter!
HTH
Bill
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In Reply to: I should add that I spent HOURS working on the trigger. nt posted by Nik on August 30, 2000 at 18:12:45:
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In Reply to: Re: As long as you have a class 3 permit for it, you can probably use one. posted by BCall on August 30, 2000 at 20:17:57:
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In Reply to: Re: It exists--in fact, People Eating Tasty Animals owns the URL www.peta.org... posted by Garry on August 30, 2000 at 20:06:16:
I went into my files today and called upthe site.
The guy has'nt gave the site back yet.
Aloha John
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In Reply to: Re: It exists--in fact, People Eating Tasty Animals owns the URL www.peta.org... posted by Garry on August 30, 2000 at 20:06:16:
I went into my files today and called upthe site.
The guy has'nt gave the site back yet.
Aloha John
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In Reply to: Re: Introduction posted by Barnes on August 28, 2000 at 13:33:04:
I don't know if this guy is the one who came up with the idea or not, but I remember reading about a Kenyathlon competition in a magazine article at least three years ago, maybe more like 5-7 years ago. From what I recall of the article, it didn't seem that it was a brand new sport, more like it had been around awhile but was just now starting to catch on. I want to say that Jeff Cooper figured into the situation somehow--I keep getting his scout rifle mixed into my recollections of the article. This was long before anyone was making scout rifles (other than custom models).
As I recall, in a Kenyathlon
1. You must carry the rifle you plan to shoot--this includes any ammunition and or shooting equipment you want to use.
2. A large part of the competition is a physically taxing hike intended to duplicate the stalk portion of a hunt.
3. Seems like you had to locate the target--it's not pointed out. They lead you to the general vicinity and then it's up to you.
4. The shooting portion (including the target location)is timed or at least time limited.
5. Equipment choice was left wide open.
The general idea is to duplicate as closely as possible a real hunt.
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P3 and P1, what are the advantages and disavantages between these 2?? I have the P1 right now and was wondering how the P3 faired compared to the P1, thanks...
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In Reply to: Webley Tomahawk posted by Denny D on August 30, 2000 at 09:28:00:
Denny: must have been the breech seal. RB
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In Reply to: Re: Is the one Cabelas a real career? posted by Jack Stinson on August 28, 2000 at 11:13:33:
I owned a careers .22 cal and love the way it shoots, I also own a .25 cal Daystate. IF you decide to buy one check out Mac1 and ask Tim to do the moderation for you. I hear he is the best in the business. He has my CA .22 now.
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In Reply to: scope suggestion..... posted by pritam on August 30, 2000 at 23:27:00:
Bushnell Trophy 4-12x40! I have eight of these scopes on everything from a R9 to a Crow Mag, and have never had a problem. Can't say that for any other scopes I have tried (Simmons, Tasco, BSA, etc.), which is why all my guns wear the same glass now.
HTH
Bill
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In Reply to: Cleaning " Rod " from fishing line. posted by john from NY on August 30, 2000 at 23:02:18:
Hi john I'am formaly from the tri-city area of NY
Living here in Hawai The100lb mono is very common
What I do is get a 6 foot section, fold it in half and lightly crimp it at the fold. This pushes from ether direction, push only enough to get the loop formed by the fold, to come out of the breach by an inch or two then put in your cleaning pad and add whatever cleaner (some use none) you want and pull through. It will be hard to find a cheaper or easer to use cleaning devise.
Aloha John
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In Reply to: Help identify German airpistol posted by Richard Cummins on August 31, 2000 at 00:25:44:
Richard: the F in the Pentagon indicated the guns power level. This is apparently a gun with under 7.5 joules power output (the German limit), so the velocity probably isn;t rated any higher than say 550 fps in .177(estimate). Record is a German gunmaker, and Record Jumbo pistols may still be purchased brand new.
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I was recently shown a .177 cal break barrel air pistol and need help identifying same.
On the left side of the gun just in front of the chamber is marked "cal.177" Behind that, on the receiver, above and forward of the trigger guard are the letters "FB" inside a sunburst [star] and "Record". At the rear of the receiver on the same level as "Record" is the letter "F" inside a five sided box. On the left side of the gun above and forward of the trigger is "Made in West.Germany. Any help would be appreciated, if anybody can identify the gun, roughly what velocity should a good one do over the chrony etc.
Thx Richard
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In Reply to: scope suggestion..... posted by pritam on August 30, 2000 at 23:27:00:
The Elite Bushnell 4200 series or 3200 series
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In Reply to: Crosman 2240 or 1740 for beginner posted by Sport on August 30, 2000 at 10:51:25:
Most guns have a quirk or two. Here's something I've noticed, and I'm told this isn't unusual with this gun. Sometimes it feels like the pellet is snagging on something as I push the bolt closed during loading. I'm told this is in fact the pellet catching on the sharp edge of the CO2 exhaust port opening in the chamber. It is more noticeable if the breech is fouled. It was a problem with Daisy pellets, since they foul the barrel after just a few pellets. To prevent the problem, load the pellet, tilt the gun foreward to let it drop into the breech, then close the bolt. It seems that forcing the pellet foreward shaves off lead causing fouling and pellet deformation.
The gun doesn't have an automatic safety.
Always take care where your gun is pointed.
It's easy to be careless.
-Mike E.
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In Reply to: Re: Bench Rest posted by Uncle Gary on August 30, 2000 at 02:38:26:
Think it's something that might be found in a
trailer/RV supply? They have some interesting
materials for sound deadening and weather stripping.
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In Reply to: RWS-52--Dwg. Question posted by Joe R on August 30, 2000 at 11:32:16:
I hav an exploded parts diagram for the Diana 52, the RWS 52 is sold in Australia as the Diana.
Email me a fax # [complete with country code etc] and I will fax to you. There is a really good wedsite on the trigger of the RWS, I will look it up and include with fax. Regards Richard
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its the first one on this page
its the stutzen i am interested in buying one and i was wondering how accurate it is and how high quality?
also how reliable is compasseco's service? i haven't ordered form them before so i dont know.
its the first one on this page
its the stutzen i am interested in buying one and i was wondering how accurate it is and how high quality???
In Reply to: Re: I think Tom Anderson has. (Tom @BB) posted by Michael on August 30, 2000 at 21:51:38:
I think you're right - I don't believe there's much you can do on the 2240 to increase gas flow, other than to bulk it. Tom BB has modified one a bit and added a longer 2260 barrel, and his shoots right at 650 FPS with 14.3 grain Premiers. Mac1 may have some goodies to boost them a little bit, he'd be the place to check. Regards,
Unc
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In Reply to: Re: CA707 Accuracy? posted by Slick on August 30, 2000 at 23:58:34:
You can consistently hit golf balls out at 100 yards. That's pretty accurate. I don't shoot targets as I am just a hunter. But pretty much it hits what you aim at if you do your job.
HTH
Marty
In Reply to: where can i find i find info on shanghai airguns other thatn the official site posted by Waddle_TheFuzzyDuck on August 30, 2000 at 20:41:05:
The best website I know of for Chinese airguns, including those made by Shanghai Airgun, is Hengjie Ma's "My Airgun Notes", also known as "Chinese Airguns and Airgun Shooting". This site is loaded with good stuff, lots of tuning tips, etc. The url is: http://olympia.fortunecity.com/kickbox/377/
Tell Hengjie Unc sent you! [GRIN!]
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In Reply to: Re: CA707 Accuracy? posted by Marty Silver Streak on August 30, 2000 at 23:55:31:
Thanks Marty.
What exactly does very accurate mean? I wondering the capabilities of the rifle are. If I shot it from a vise rest what size groups could I expect?
Regards, Slick
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In Reply to: Re: Cleaning " Rod " from fishing line. posted by Marty Silver Streak on August 30, 2000 at 23:53:37:
Thanks Marty, that's exactly what I was looking for!
-john-
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In Reply to: Re: Take a look!! posted by Fred on August 29, 2000 at 13:54:44:
You might want to read Amendment 9 and Amendment 10 to the US Constitution.
Don't get brainwashed by priviledges. Neither the Federal or States have any priviledges they can give. We already have the rights, Government can only limit or revoke the rights we have.
As to registering a car how does that make a safe driver or any thing else except money for the states.
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In Reply to: CA707 Accuracy? posted by Slick on August 30, 2000 at 23:53:05:
VERY ACCURATE out to 100 yards +.
Marty
SSSports
PS Own two of them.
In Reply to: Cleaning " Rod " from fishing line. posted by john from NY on August 30, 2000 at 23:02:18:
John, they are talking about 100 lb. monofiliment fishing line or weed eater line. You have to heat it and flatten it and then make a slit in it to put the patch in.
Just get a PatchWorm from me for $5 including shipping. Works great, works with all calibers, and won't harm your crown, it is made from nylon. and has a molded stop to keep the patch from coming off the end.
You can see a picture of it at my website URL below.
Marty
SSSports
Any comments about the accuracy of the CA707 at various distances would be appreciated!
Regards, Slick
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In Reply to: Peter please help. Look inside. posted by Cody Dotter on August 30, 2000 at 19:29:07:
HW 97 if memory serves me right, it was also about the Swift 669MTA scope which he got from me.
HTH
Marty
SSSports
In Reply to: The AA100 -- how accurate is it? posted by peter huppertz on August 30, 2000 at 17:21:39:
Peter: watch those little 'urps'. They'll sneak up on you when you least expect it. he he Russ
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In Reply to: I read an article on the tommy gun from the 30s posted by Tyler on August 30, 2000 at 04:03:09:
Actually they did not prohibit buying machine guns they just taxed them. $200 transfer fee.
In 1986 by a voice vote they banned new machine guns from comming into the pool. Now only pre 1986 machine guns can be purchased by an indivual.
Of course all those transfers add up along with collector value. I have seen three come up for sale this year and $7000 was going rate. One M60 for $17,000. The mini-gun used in the movie Predator, don't remember the price on that one.
There is a large sub-machine gun shoot in Las Vegas every year that's open to public. Also in Vegas there is a gun shop that lets you shoot SMG's on their indoor range for a fee.
Art
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In Reply to: scope suggestion..... posted by pritam on August 30, 2000 at 23:27:00:
Yep the Swift 669MTA 6-18x44 with target turrets and sunshade included.
I use it on both my Careers, and lots of folks have it on their 48's.
I sell them my website URL is below, click the Swift scope link and the picture at the top of the page is the scope I am talking about.
$155 + $10 Priority mail, it is in stock.
Thanks,
Marty
SSSports
In Reply to: Cleaning " Rod " from fishing line. posted by john from NY on August 30, 2000 at 23:02:18:
Weedwacker line is what I think you were referring to. It's stronger. Some folks say 'monofilament line' when they mean weedwacker line. RB
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In Reply to: Red Dot sight adjustment posted by Tom on August 30, 2000 at 19:05:20:
Tom: you may need an adjustable base; but one of the things I'd do is to check to make sure the barrel alignment inside the top of the guns'slide' is correct. If either the breech or muzzle end are off just a few thousandths of an inch, you'll have windage problems. RB
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In Reply to: Dove Season posted by chasm on August 30, 2000 at 22:00:24:
Psssssssssssst ... move to CA ... they allow air guns
to be used ... one restriction is 0.20 or larger for
turkeys.
I think there are some other restrictions, like perhaps
doves, but I need to check.
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hi,
in near future I m gonna have, 707 in .22 Cal from mac -1
I have one RWS 48 too........can any-one suggest any good scop, wich works on both the rifles....
all comments and inputs are welcome
regards
pritam
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hi,
in near future I m gonna have, 707 in .22 Cal from mac -1
I have one RWS 48 too........can any-one suggest any good scop, with works on both the rifles....
all comments and inputs are welcome
regardas
pritam
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In Reply to: may be adios! posted by jj on August 30, 2000 at 13:59:27:
If you have a computer at home try searching for free Internet sites that have a local number for your city. Most let you search for your city before you download the software. Try Altavista.com netzero.com and others.
Good Luck with your new Dept.
Art
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In Reply to: IZH-46; Any experience with one? posted by Ugo Nessuno on August 30, 2000 at 18:29:08:
I have one and I love it. For the price it can't be beat. Be ready for it to be a little rough on the exterior but it is supperb on the inside and thats what counts any way! Customize the grips how you want and it will out shoot you for a long time. Just shot a PB of 544(600) with one last night.
HTH
peace enzo
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In Reply to: Thanks guys! posted by Sport on August 30, 2000 at 16:18:35:
End-of-Message
Mike in Indy
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I heard that you can make a cleaning "Rod" out of fishing line. do you just thread it down the barrel, tie a loop, put on a patch, and pull?
-Thanks for any input-
-john
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In Reply to: I can imagine it started when some guy robbed a bank with a musket *LOL* (nt) posted by Tyler on August 30, 2000 at 04:09:36:
seriously. just like today maybe.
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In Reply to: Weaver T-10 Target Scopes posted by Raymond L on August 30, 2000 at 18:20:10:
Raymond;
I have a DT-15 Weaver that I got from SWFA in Texas for $199 and it focuses to 10yds (act.8)and is fantastic X hair and glass wise...Too new to tell if it is going to hold up under my springer (RWS-52),,it also has low profile target knobs...Hope this helps...Have a good .1" ...Tater....
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In the last few days I have had 4 unexpected calls from friends in the airgun community. Most are from friends who went to the World's and want something a little different and exotic. Knowing that I have odd tastes, they gave me a ring. However one has a rifle I wanted him to sell me years ago. It is a fixed barrel JW 75 in .22. Anybody have an approximate value of used ones these days if I take it on trade? Another has a TX 200 SR that he wanted to trade me. Any idea what those go for? Mind you this is not a normal one and used to be my own gun before I traded it to him for "whatever it was I had to have then." And I thought I had put the addiction behind me. Just when I had determined not to go looking for any airguns and go cold turkey, I have to get calls from folks who have two rifles I used to love and covet. So if anyone has ideas as to value, let me know. Thanks in advance.
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In Reply to: Re: 1322C vs 2289G posted by arlin on August 30, 2000 at 16:51:14:
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Fellow Airgunners,
This friday is opening day of dove season here in Texas, as well as probably most other states. Dove season opening here in Texas is very close in importance to the opening of Texas football. The frenzy surrounding this occasion is something to see. I've got my license, shotguns, and ammo ready for sunrise friday. However, airguns not shotguns are my passion now, so I spent some time today researching just what I can legally hunt here with an air rifle. Here is what I found:
Game animals and game birds cannot be hunted with pellet guns or other air guns.
Game animals include deer, sheep, antelope, grey, cat, red, and fox aquirrels. Collared peccary and javelina.
Game birds include quail, prarie chicken, migratory game birds, pheasants, turkey, and partridge.
What's left?,
Rabbits, crows, coyotes, grackles, snakes, ground squirrels, prarie dogs, etc.
The above is my quick read on the regulations. Please refer to the actual document for clarification. From the way I read the regulation, there is plenty of room for us air gunners here in Texas.
As I've mentioned before, I have a large crow population on my property that depredates my pecan orchards, and will welcome any help I can get from airgunners in mitigating that problem.
chasm
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In Reply to: I was told it could not be removed without cutting it! (but I would have checked first)!....nt posted by Steve T on August 30, 2000 at 20:25:53:
Steve: some of the later ones are epoxied, in addition to having a set screw. The crew is accessed thru the hole in the top of the sight hood (unscrew and remove sight element first). Then, if it the sight does not come off after the screw is removed, heat the sight housing with a hi wattage hair dryer until it's very hot. Try twisting the sight off, as the glue should be softened. While the glue is still hot and gooey, wrap a rag of acetone or paint thinner around the muzzle end and wipe/scrub the glue off. Do this in a well ventilated area, as warm acetone fumes will make you light headed.. Good luck- RB
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In Reply to: I think Tom Anderson has. (Tom @BB) posted by Uncle Gary on August 30, 2000 at 18:42:25:
I had heard that the power plant in the 2240 was engineered
to meter a specfic quantity of gas (and does not modify easily
with a stronger spring). Unlike the SSP 250. Looks like using a
heavier slug won't buy much in increased energy either.
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In Reply to: where can i find i find info on shanghai airguns other thatn the official site posted by Waddle_TheFuzzyDuck on August 30, 2000 at 20:41:05:
Most of Compasseco's guns are Shanghai Industry Brand. Try the Compasseco site (see airgun resources section). RB
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In Reply to: Re: " for all you nuts.... " [USENET] posted by Lon on August 30, 2000 at 14:17:30:
Without gun powder and an ignition source, two key things.
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In Reply to: IZH-46; Any experience with one? posted by Ugo Nessuno on August 30, 2000 at 18:29:08:
nt
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In Reply to: Re: Red dot elevation posted by Tom on August 30, 2000 at 20:09:43:
On mine the elevation is backwards. Maybe it is true on yours with windage. Turn it backwards ie if you want it to shoot to the left then turn it in the direction of the right arrow. Give it a try. Like I said before mine was backwards on the elevation maybe your is backwards in windage.
If this doesn't make sense let me know and I will try to do a better job. I will keep an eye on the posts. I am interested to see what you find out.
HTH
Gary
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In Reply to: Sceen shot of upcoming web site.... posted by TK on August 30, 2000 at 20:37:38:
Looks really nice. Good Luck!!!
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Does anyone know where to get replacement breech seals for 55N.Prefer synthetic over leather.Have an old synthetic Fanta breech seal in it at this time.But they aren't made anymore.Would any of the current seals for other rifles work.
Thank you,Mike
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In Reply to: I will have to check out some Canadian websites and see whats available... Thanks for the reply Dave (nt) posted by Tyler on August 30, 2000 at 17:05:05:
Look into http://www.lebaron.ca
They have better Airguns too if you want to get an FAC.
Better selection than Canadian Tire for sure.
You can get their Gun Catalogue. You need to specify that because the large general Catalogue has only few guns in it.
Lew
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In Reply to: Airguns vs. Beanie Babies posted by chasm on August 29, 2000 at 21:50:41:
Charles,
I think Pokemon Vampire tongue (or nipple) rings are
much more interesting collectibles. (Chuckle!!!!)
"There are many here among us who feel that life
is but a joke." Bobby Zimmerman
bearridge
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In Reply to: Re: Are break barrel springers as accurate/consistant as a fixed barrel posted by AC on August 30, 2000 at 11:37:04:
I also learned that there are fixed barrel springers.
Thanks for clarifying.
Lew
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In Reply to: Can I sight a red dot THROUGH the front sight (IZH-61)? posted by Steve T on August 30, 2000 at 19:47:21:
Steve: I tried that cheap stunt with a laser. When I brought it in to zero it hit the top of the ring, the best I could do was 3" over with the front sight in place. It will probably depend on the red dot and rings. Like Russ said the sight comes off with a set screw through the top.
HTH - Steve B.
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In Reply to: In a word... Yes! posted by DaveG on August 30, 2000 at 11:42:08:
I have the Canadian version of Crosman 795 springer. Mine has excessive recoil and the plastic barrel lock is really flimsy, allows the barrel lock in different positions with respect to the piston. I know that the sight is on the barrel so the aim is ok but from different lock position the barrel bounce is not consistent between shots. I know a better lock would fix it, but I don't know how to go about it.
The other fixed barrel I compared to is the Crosman 2200. Shoots much better groups.
So they both fairly cheap guns ( Without FAC in Canada ) I am sure any high quality rifle would be more satisfactory either fixed or break barrel.
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I tried for a while and could not open it.
Waddle
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I ttied for a while and could not open it.
Waddle
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In Reply to: The AA100 -- how accurate is it? posted by peter huppertz on August 30, 2000 at 17:21:39:
;-) Good Shooting!
Unc
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anybody have any idea what a Quicksilver air rifle is or of it's value-I collect vintage crossmans and have no idea what a quicksilver is-Jay
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Here's a sceen shot of the site I'm working on. It's kind of low quality since it's a JPEG file. Enjoy!
-TK
In Reply to: Hold on a second! posted by RBest on August 30, 2000 at 20:10:33:
nt
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That do you think of this gun. I am thinking of getting one in 177. Can I run premier lights thru it and get more shots. I will not be using it for f/t or hunting it will be just for fun. Any info on this would help.
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In Reply to: The "NEW WORLD ORDER "! Heil Hitler!!! (NT) posted by Wade on August 30, 2000 at 15:24:33:
Unc
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Over scoped my Career .22 for my needs
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In Reply to: Re: Red dot elevation posted by Tom on August 30, 2000 at 20:09:43:
Tom, try this. With the sight held firmly so it can't move, turn the L-R adjustment back to the right, does the dot also move to the right when you do this? If it does, then you're actually moving the POI to the left. If not, then you're going in the correct direction, and something must be wrong in the mount alignment that prevents it from having enough adjustment range. Usually these sights have plenty of movement to get on target, yours may be defective. Regards,
Unc
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In Reply to: NIGHT FORCE SCOPES Who sells them??? posted by Troy on August 30, 2000 at 17:40:03:
If your looking to find the 36x56 Airgun Scope your out of luck. They have not made them for some time now. The current production scopes from don't work very well at the shorter ranges that airgunning is used in. That being said...
There are a few companies that sell them. I don't have a current copy but Shotgun News and Gun List have adds from several companies that carry them. Lightforce USA is the importer (I think) for them. Here is a link for Nightforce.
In Reply to: Re: As long as you have a class 3 permit for it, you can probably use one. posted by hal on August 30, 2000 at 02:54:13:
You mean illegal for hunting right? You can still own one for show, if you jump through the right hoops to get one. Bill
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In Reply to: FX 2000 posted by Cody Dotter on August 30, 2000 at 16:35:13:
if the silencer is permanently attached to the airgun it is legal. if you can remove it, you will need permit from batf.
john
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In Reply to: Interesting Information that all should be aware of: posted by R. Malinka on August 30, 2000 at 15:19:25:
I've been following the development of the UN Millenium Summit meetings for quite some time, and as he notes, Al Gore is right there in the middle of it. If the agenda at this UN summit doesn't scare you, it should! Let us all pray fervently that they don't succeed in implementing their agenda, while we still have our own government and country intact. If they succeed, then One World Government, One World Religion, and daily life under the "guidance" of the UN will become a reality for the entire world. God help us if this comes to pass! Regards,
Unc
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In Reply to: Can I sight a red dot THROUGH the front sight (IZH-61)? posted by Steve T on August 30, 2000 at 19:47:21:
Cut the front sight off? Why? All you need is to loosen the screw and remove the front sight. Takes less than a minute!!!!! RB
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In Reply to: Red dot elevation posted by Gary on August 30, 2000 at 19:42:54:
The elevation was correct with the arrow. The problem that I am having is that I can't adjust the sight to go any more to the left the screw is turned all the way in. Am I mounting it wrong or what can I change to make it go more to the left. Thanks
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In Reply to: It exists--in fact, People Eating Tasty Animals owns the URL www.peta.org... posted by scot on August 30, 2000 at 17:24:43:
A federal judge gave the peta.org to the original peta, the goverment is going to try to control the internet through the courts I quess.
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In Reply to: Can I sight a red dot THROUGH the front sight (IZH-61)? posted by Steve T on August 30, 2000 at 19:47:21:
Actually Steve, it usually isn't necessary. The "line of sight" of almost all Red Dot sights will usually place the dot well above the front sight anyway when the sight is adjusted for the right POI. I've got one mounted on my old RWS 36 right now, and the front sight is still on it and doesn't interfere with seeing the dot. Try it first before you remove the front sight, I don't think you'll have to. Regards,
Unc
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In Reply to: Red Dot sight adjustment posted by Tom on August 30, 2000 at 19:05:20:
I posted the correct procedure for adjusting these sights a couple of weeks ago, but just in case it'll help, here goes again. Note that this method requires a good solid rest! These sights do not necessarily adjust like a scope reticle! The best way to get your POI right is to first take a shot at the bullseye of a target at medium range, say 25 yards. Now check your target and see where the actual POI is on the target. Now put the rifle back in the rest and again centr the red dot on the the bullseye. Holding it there, move your windage adjustment so that the dot moves over until it is directly on where your shot actually struck the target. Now when you center the red dot on the bullseye, your shot should also strike here. The reason I'm not going to get into a discussion of "left and right" or "up and down" with these sights is that there are so many different manufacturers and models and some of them adjust just the opposite of what you might think. For example, on some "up" means that the DOT moves up, not the POI! Moving the dot up actually will move the POI down! The method I gave above will work regardless of the manufacturer's terminology on any of these sights. Regards,
Unc
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I seems large enough, and I don't want to cut off the front sight
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In Reply to: Red dot elevation posted by Gary on August 30, 2000 at 19:42:54:
Bent barrel??? I don't know what one is but could the crown be screwed-up? All I know is the crown is on the barrel. Don't know what else to tell you. Maybe some other people can help. <;o)
SeeYa,
-Cody Dotter-
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In Reply to: The AA100 -- how accurate is it? posted by peter huppertz on August 30, 2000 at 17:21:39:
OOPS it's on top of yours. 16 lines on top. <;o)
SeeYa,
-Cody Dotter-
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In Reply to: Red Dot sight adjustment posted by Tom on August 30, 2000 at 19:05:20:
Tom,
Can't tell ya what to do on that one but have a question for you. When adjusting the elevation did your Red Dot adjust oposit from the way the arrow pointed?
Gary
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In Reply to: The AA100 -- how accurate is it? posted by peter huppertz on August 30, 2000 at 17:21:39:
Is AA100 short for something? How much $$$ are they? Where can I get one? Is it a springer? What are the specs on the gun? What are the calibers they come in? Can I see any pictures of it on a web page? What are the sizes of the groups they shoot at 25 yards? ThanX Peter. Also could you click on my topic it's right under your topic. It's called Peter help please. Look inside. ThanX <;o)
SeeYa,
-Cody Dotter-
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In Reply to: IZH-46; Any experience with one? posted by Ugo Nessuno on August 30, 2000 at 18:29:08:
Hello Ugo,
Go to www.pilkguns.com and click on "target talk". That forum has seen much discussion about the -46. Scroll down the list of posts, and see what you can find.
regards,
Phil Reedy
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In Reply to: IZH-46; Any experience with one? posted by Ugo Nessuno on August 30, 2000 at 18:29:08:
IMHO for the money ya cant beat it
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In Reply to: Like I said before... posted by Doc on August 30, 2000 at 18:45:21:
In order to give you have to take from someone else. The government does not "give" anyone a benefit, they take by force of law and deliver the booty to someone more deserving. If you are a doctor in private practice my guess is about 44% of your revenue goes to the three levels of government. If this level is unacceptable to you there are plenty of charities to raise the ante.
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About 3 months or whenever you posted a topic that was named 'I did something kind of stupid'. Or something like that. You shot at .177 pellets. What gun where you using? How much $$$ are they? Where can I get one? ThanX.
SeeYa,
-Cody Dotter-
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In Reply to: Interesting Information that all should be aware of: posted by R. Malinka on August 30, 2000 at 15:19:25:
Even Clinton wouldn't take that from the UN.
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In Reply to: Re: Maybe you can get people from this forum to submit their own reviews as well. posted by Mom T on August 30, 2000 at 13:59:59:
I'll be sure and give you guys updates. Progress is good so far.
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In Reply to: Re: 1322C pump neglected Why? posted by Fred on August 30, 2000 at 16:25:48:
I'm thinking about getting the 1322C also. It seems a nice gun...
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I just put one of the Tasco ProPoints on my BSA 240. After shiming it up I have it shooting the correct height but it is shooting too far to the right, I have the knob all the way turned in for the left side what do I do now. Also what type of Loctite to you use on scope screws. Thanks Tom
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In Reply to: Sheridan rifles posted by Aaron on August 30, 2000 at 13:13:19:
I think - don't know for sure - that the ProHunter is the English export version - i.e. a Sheridan with cruddy valves put into it so it won't exceed 12 ft/lbs energy and thus require a FAC.
Quick refresher course on why we had a revolution over here.
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In Reply to: Re: YES posted by peter huppertz on August 30, 2000 at 18:38:09:
Hi Peter,
What does the word "rampla" mean. Such as la rampla de barcelona. TIA
Zeke
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In Reply to: Daisy VL posted by Bob on August 30, 2000 at 17:43:37:
It takes special ammo. The only place I know of that carries it is Gun Parts Corporation (www.gunpartscorp.com) of West Hurley, New York. Good news is that they're trying to unload it & so they sell it in quantity pretty cheap. Other good news is that revision in Federal law a few years ago allows mail-order ammo sales.
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In Reply to: Re: may be adios! posted by Joe Whittaker on August 30, 2000 at 16:25:25:
JJ,
I'm on blue light right now. I haven't had any problems getting on.
Zeke
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In Reply to: Dangerous Senate Bill.....SB-2099 posted by Tony U. on August 30, 2000 at 11:47:39:
No changes to the Internal Revenue Code can be enacted without being passed by the House and Senate, and signed by the President. Regulation changes, such as an amendment to a form, can be done without this process. But the IRS still has to go through the public comment process contained in the Administrative Procedures Act and publish the proposed and final comments in the Federal Register.
S 2099 was introduced by Sen. Reed in February, 2000 to provide for the registration of handguns. No action has been taken on this measure since it was tossed into the hopper. If this was going to go anywhere, the Finance Committee would have held hearings by now. I don't think this one has much of a chance.
BUT please write your congressional folks to alert them to your feelings about this effort. And VOTE in November. 85 million gunowners have to count for something.
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In Reply to: Daystate Sportman.... has anyone ever used this air rifle??? posted by Peter Kay on August 29, 2000 at 16:35:13:
Hi
I read your post I don't know if you will see it. I have two such rifles in my collection. One is in 22 cal. the other is a .25 cal rifle. I like both of mine and find them to be accurate and fun to shoot. They are heavy guns as well. The .25 cal was a special order as I was so pleased with the 22 cal. I think that the 22 cal. is a little more accurate but the .25 hits objects harder. The wood that I got on my 22 is very very nice and is sometimes not found on good firearms. They are expensive witht the walnut stocks. Hope you can get one for yourself it is a pleasent addition to ones collection. I will tell you that after three pumps it becomes a little tuff. With three pumps and a kodiak pellet in 22 you can go through a squirrel at 25 yds easy. At 25 yds a few days ago I was hitting the center of the 50 ft nra targets used for firearms with great consistancy . Hope this helps .
Len
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In Reply to: Interesting Information that all should be aware of: posted by R. Malinka on August 30, 2000 at 15:19:25:
If the only thing you care about is the threat of more "gun control", vote for Bush. If everything else matters, you had better vote for Al Gore.
The current flap over many Texas children not having access to medicare benefits only proves Bush is a looser. Of course Bush was quick to state that this problem existed BEFORE he was governor of Texas! But the question is: why hasn't HE fixed it?
Doc
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In Reply to: Re: Has Anyone Chronographed a CR 2240 with a 29 grain daesung pellet? posted by Charlie on August 30, 2000 at 18:00:35:
But I'm not sure what he got with them, maybe he'll see this and post something on them. Regards,
Unc
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In Reply to: YES posted by AirMonkey on August 30, 2000 at 15:46:57:
> Contrary to the pipular belief of some circles; airgun tweaking is not rocket science;-)
If rocket science were hunt and peck, the number of rockets coming down in an unintended fashion would be unproportionally high ;-)
I'm led to believe that this is because, in rocket science, people are (supposed to be) aware of what they're doing, whereas in tweaking airguns, it's still largely a matter of trial and error. For instance, when someone wants to know how to calculate regulator valve chamber volumes, this whole forum shuts up -- but then again, so does Air Arms (who make no mean guns or so I think).
And that's including me, indeed. I know nothing, I'm from Barcelona.
peter
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In Reply to: VOTE REPUBLICAN; Keep your guns. posted by Republican on August 30, 2000 at 15:55:36:
It's taken both parties to get us where we are today. The Republicans only want 30% of what the Democrats want. Taxes, "Health care", Guns, Big Brother it doesn't matter. They only take smaller steps than the Dems.
The only truly pro gun party is the Libertarin Party.
Yes, I'm still going to vote for Bush but I vote LP on local stuff.
I've been eyeing an IZH-46 as an entry level pistol for club shooting. Does anyone have any experience with this pistol? Please give me your honest opinion either pro or con. Thanks, Ugo
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In Reply to: Well I will have to put my skirt on for this one..... posted by Marty Silver Streak on August 30, 2000 at 01:20:55:
> The gun is sold.
Double darn ;-)
j/k, glad it worked out for you.
peter
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In Reply to: Need night varmint shooting tips. posted by Glenn on August 25, 2000 at 16:02:15:
I used a red spotlight and a 1077 w/4x32 scope to eliminate my fruit rat problem.
to bad night vision sights are expensive, the rat's eyes glow like green diamonds when using night vision making them easy to spot. Having only one of those cheap hand held jobs we used it to locate, and then turned on the red flood to see with the scope.
shoot safe.
George
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Does anyone use one of these for airgun use and does it focus down to 10 yards? Thanks......
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In Reply to: Sending the Gulf Stream! posted by Willey M on August 30, 2000 at 02:09:05:
Tweed/New Haven would be excellent. About 25 miles closer and a larger airfield. LOL RB
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In Reply to: Re: 10M air rfle match resources, reference material needed. posted by Art on August 30, 2000 at 10:30:19:
visit our website, click on the Olympic shooting at the top, you should find everything you want. AND watch for my daily reports from the Olympics on the aforementioned BBS
In Reply to: Interesting Information that all should be aware of: posted by R. Malinka on August 30, 2000 at 15:19:25:
nt
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In Reply to: Crosman 2240/50 posted by Jim on August 29, 2000 at 21:44:22:
Paint ballers have been using regulated compressed air for some time.
If you do a bulk conversion, you can get a small tank for about $130.
HTH
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In Reply to: Who sells the Pro Air -- TX200 British Air Guns posted by Troy on August 30, 2000 at 18:08:31:
AAA Sporting Goods has them in stock and has about the best prices I have found. I could not find them on their site, except on their specials page. I just bought a TX from them, as well as several other airguns over the last couple years, and they are definitely a top notch operation. They have always gone out of their way to take care of anything I needed, and I have heard the same from several others.
HTH
Bill
In Reply to: Who sells the Pro Air -- TX200 British Air Guns posted by Troy on August 30, 2000 at 18:08:31:
Pro Air? The TX-200 is made by Air Arms (who also make the Pro Elite and Pro-Sport). RB
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In Reply to: Re: Guns like the Crosman 2250 posted by mike e. on August 30, 2000 at 14:25:53:
nt
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In Reply to: Re: TX200 SR Trigger Adjustments Different from TX200 posted by RON on August 30, 2000 at 17:05:29:
Ron: cock and hold the lever down with the left hand, and load the pellet with the right hand. Super easy and quite natural and safe. The key is to not let go of the cocking lever. RB
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Thank You for your help.
Troy
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In Reply to: Has Anyone Chronographed a CR 2240 with a 29 grain daesung pellet? posted by Michael on August 30, 2000 at 17:58:16:
I got around 390 fps with the 21.3 grain Beeman Kodiak pellet
in my stock 2240. Never tried the Dae Sung 30 grain domed pellet.
Charlie
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or chronographed a 21 grain .22 caliber pellet?
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In Reply to: Re: New Theoben High Power (38 FT/LBS) underlever gasram rifle posted by ben on August 29, 2000 at 10:38:57:
Actually, it's misSpelled, dear Ben. Sorry, couldn't resist.
As to the post about the readability of which you complain: even I, to whom English is a second language, could read it.
As it is, some foreigners (Ewoodie is from the Netherlands, just like me) sometimes have a tendency to put native Americans to shame when it comes to the proper use of the English language -- and I'm not talking about misspellings like color and aluminum and the likes.
I know that there are many people who will argue that, to the average citizen of the USA, English is a second language as well, but I won't buy that.
However, it seems to me that, if a foreigner is trying to provide you with information that might be useful to you, AND you are going to flame him over the correct use of the English language, you should at the very least proofread your own post.
*vicious grin*
peter
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In Reply to: Daisy VL posted by Bob on August 30, 2000 at 17:43:37:
Cock the gun, insert the special VL pellet, fire. The heat generated by the compression ignites the propellant in the pellet, and out it goes.
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Can anyone give me info on how you load and fire a VL.Thanks
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Thank you in advance..
I am wondering who sells the Night Force scope..
Is there a link.
Troy
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In Reply to: FX 2000 posted by Cody Dotter on August 30, 2000 at 16:35:13:
Depends from whom you buy it from but here is ad ad for them.
NEW! FX2000
Item #P-FX2000X .22 Cal, Beech Stock 860 fps 25.00 ft/lbs $895.00
Item #P-FX2000W .22 Cal, Walnut Stock 860 fps 25.00 ft/lbs $955.00
Far and away the most definitive pneumatic air rifle. The FX2000 incorporates a host of state of the art features to guarantee ease of use and absolute accuracy, including: 8-shot magazine, bolt action cocking and loading; more than 100 shots on full power; A smooth 2-stage adjustable trigger; quick-fill adaptor; can be recharged with the Webley pump; match quality choked barrel; integral pressure gage; adjustable power. Weight 6 lbs, length 39.5", barrel length 19.7".
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In Reply to: Re: Simmons Scope Question.. posted by Uncle Gary on August 30, 2000 at 02:25:30:
The scope in the URL is a 6.5-20x50, whereas the M1048T is 6.5-20x44.
Also, the scope pictured is DEFINITELY not an airgun scope -- it has no adjustable opening, making it useless for the close ranges that we air rifle shooters work in.
By the way, the only scopes warranted for use on springers are the Pro-Air scopes (which I tend to find substandard when compared to the competition -- and that's not just Swift).
The M1048T is sold at something like 130 dollars by SWFA.
cheers,
peter
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In Reply to: Thoughts on RWS/Diana 6G pistol posted by Dick Kelso on August 30, 2000 at 12:16:41:
A very smooth pistol, and great accuracy too! Made for target shooting. Has 2 pistons going in opposite directions to cancel movement/kick of spring & piston.
Many Thanks KEN.
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In Reply to: Re: 1322C pump neglected Why?...it's a pumper... posted by Steve B. on August 30, 2000 at 14:52:21:
A Crosman premier going at 450ft/s is excellent
power from a pistol and puts it in the high power
category for a pistol. I think the 1322 has
excellent power and can dispatch small game at
close range. The 2240 with a full powerlet may have
just a bit more power than the 1322 but not by much.
JMHO
Tom L.
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In Reply to: I'm a long armed, tall shooter. Is there an easy way to " extend " the stock posted by Long Arm Silver on August 30, 2000 at 17:10:08:
nt
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In Reply to: new PETA name posted by John Ward on August 30, 2000 at 16:48:50:
...and boy is the other PETA pissed off. It's currently in court...
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Well, the Swift 677M holds zero -- proven.
And so does the AA100 in its current state.
This evening, I was shooting the thing at various distances, in order to get an idea of the trajectory, and to see if I got my ATEAB parameters right.
Call it a freak occurrence, but I shot a 4 pellet 0.3" group from the bench -- at 55 yards.
Why a four pellet group? Because, on letting the fifth fly, before it hit the paper I knew I had destroyed a work of art, extending the group to 2/3".
I've actually scanned the group -- it can be seen at the url below.
peter
In Reply to: Re: Collectors Corner---- The BSA Scorpion pistol posted by Driskill on August 28, 2000 at 22:59:46:
As luck would have it, my buddy Lance, owner of the local Scorpion, dropped by last night and corrected my comments. The Scorpion's trigger is a single-stage, NOT 2-stage, design. It can, however, be adjusted down to a really light and crisp pull.
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I'm a long armed, tall shooter. Is there an easy way to "extend" the stock
(shoulder to trigger length?)
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In Reply to: Whats your favorite airgun magazine? posted by Jeff R. on August 30, 2000 at 10:57:49:
I swear I'm NOT just kissing up because I'm on their forum, but "The Airgun Letter" is well-written, covers a huge range of topics, is unbiased by advertiser's influence, comes out monthly, and is cheap to boot. And you can click back to the front page of this site and subscribe right now, if ya want.
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In Reply to: Re: TX200 SR Trigger Adjustments Different from TX200 posted by RON on August 30, 2000 at 11:38:07:
THANKS. OK Buy Me Books; all I'll do is eat the covers!
I think I understand it now. I'll leave the trigger just as it is. I don't want to loose fingers either.
PS I thought the ratched "bear trap" lever on the MKII was to prevent the breech from slamming closed when you feed in a pellet. How do you cock the darn thing and load it while keeping a hand on the lever? Seems awkward.
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In Reply to: Re: Slavia 630 or 631, any experience with either? posted by DaveG on August 30, 2000 at 16:56:02:
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In Reply to: Slavia 630 or 631, any experience with either? posted by Tyler on August 30, 2000 at 16:47:01:
Tyler, I have no experience with the Slavia rifles other than what I have read on this forum... I am also not to familiar with which other models are available to you in Canada on an every day basis. I do know what you mean about the 61 though, as it is on the smallish side, but it makes up for it with it's fun factor, and it's accuracy!
Good luck with your search, and let us know what you wind up with!
Regards,
DaveG
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In Reply to: Re: 1322C pump neglected Why? posted by arlin on August 30, 2000 at 16:16:31:
The CrosMan 2289G is a pump pistol w/shoulder stock. is this the same basic pump/piston/barrel as the 1322C...
any experience pro/con ??
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Hey, they wouldn't be endangered if they didn't taste so darn good.
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How about PETA changing their name to:
People for the Eating of Tasty Animals.
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In Reply to: English sparrow posted by bill on August 30, 2000 at 14:21:16:
Try to learn to distinguish them from the females of rarer native species. There are distinguishing marks, but you'll know them better if you figure them out yourself.
Watch them a while before you start shooting; I think that should go for any creature you intend to start seeing as game. It will make you both a better hunter and naturalist. JP
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In Reply to: In a word... Yes! posted by DaveG on August 30, 2000 at 11:42:08:
The slavia air rifles are widley available in Canada. Our airguns cant shoot over 500 fps. The review on this gun seemed good. The Slavia is cheaper than the fixed barreled IZH-61 but the IZH-61 is more accurate but the IZH-61 is a youth rifle and is small for a 6 foot 2 guy. decisions, decisions
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In Reply to: Compasseco has two 4x32's model scopes.... posted by Chavez on August 30, 2000 at 07:37:22:
Thanks for the headsup.
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In Reply to: Here's a funny quote from one site; posted by Jack Stinson on August 30, 2000 at 14:42:12:
...of other bird populations. Starlings are not gregarious enoughy to be quickly dispatched this way; they will fly away and quickly learn to avoid the area; so government/university sites recommend poison/lime for exterminating them.
In their native Africa (African Weaver Finch is their "real" name), sparrows tend to come to the aid of one another against snakes and rodents. So while they stick around trying to help each other out, a hunter or exterminator can continue to "reduce their population."
At least this is what I've read about it and seen in my yard. JP
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In Reply to: Are break barrel springers as accurate/consistant as a fixed barrel posted by Tyler on August 30, 2000 at 04:21:01:
nt
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Is the FX 2000 a good gun? Is it accurate? What is the price in .22 cal.? Also, I saw on Webley and Scott's web site that the gun has a picture of a silencer on it. Does it really come with a silencer. I don't want a silencer. There illegal. Well unless you $200 and get registered or something. ThanX. <;o)
SeeYa,
-Cody Dotter-
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Does anyone know where I can get a good deal on Crosman .22 wadcutters and korean pellets(for my Career 707)?
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In Reply to: Hey Dave....... posted by jj on August 30, 2000 at 15:23:15:
Yep, I had figured that the Red Course was going to be the worst one I shot all weekend... Although I did enjoy being there! As it turns out it was the highest I was able to score all weekend... I'm very dissapointed in my performance, or should I say lack of, but the overall experience was priceless. I know that I was not the only one that struggled out there, in those conditions... Heat and such, but I learned so much, and met so many really great people, that it was well worth the trip!
Regards,
DaveG
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In Reply to: Re: 1322C pump neglected Why? posted by arlin on August 30, 2000 at 16:16:31:
I can not speak for the 1322 but I can for the 1377 (.177 instead of .22). It is a fine gun for the price or twice the price as far as I am concerned. It fit my hand perfectly and is not difficult to pump. It is easier than my B/S HB22 because the pump lever is longer for better leverage. Typically I do not pump to the maximum of 10. I usually only use 4 pumps. I have never had any other pistols (the 1377 and HB22 only) so I can not compare it. The stocks are plastic which I first thought of as cheap but they hold up well, look good and keep the weight down.
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In Reply to: may be adios! posted by jj on August 30, 2000 at 13:59:27:
jj
What trouble are you having with Bluelight/Yahoo.
Joe W.
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In Reply to: Crosman 2240 or 1740 for beginner posted by Sport on August 30, 2000 at 10:51:25:
Looks like it'll be the 2240.
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In Reply to: 1322C pump neglected Why? posted by Douglas on August 30, 2000 at 14:29:20:
Hmmm.. I've had my eye on the 1322C to be my only pellet pistol. I thought I'd read that it
was "accurate" for a beginner/plinker to learn my aim/trigger/arm/stuff...
so, a question for the experienced...
IF I am willing to tolerate the pumping and low power of the 1322C... is it a 'good pistol' for
the price... are their other serious contendors ?? ( .22 pellet for $50-$75 )
thanks
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In Reply to: Airpistol Co. UK said that they didn't have time to answer my questions about the rifle or to tell me whether they could ship to the US or not. nt posted by Lloyd S. on August 30, 2000 at 15:48:55:
Lloyd,
Did you get my off-list mail?
Answered a couple more of your questions, and suggested you try info@budgetgunstackle.demon.uk
Cheers
Alan
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In Reply to: Re: Why would you want one? posted by RBest on August 29, 2000 at 22:57:25:
I guess I'm lucky. I live in a small town and have been known to sneak out in the yard and shoot a Black bird or 2. They eat my dogs dog food and this anoys me! So far no one has complained. Thanks for the answer. Don T.
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In Reply to: YES posted by AirMonkey on August 30, 2000 at 15:46:57:
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In Reply to: Interesting Information that all should be aware of: posted by R. Malinka on August 30, 2000 at 15:19:25:
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Getting 730 fps on co2 and 1170 on hpa at 175 bar with crosman Premiers
Getting 18 shots before velocity falls below 1100 on hpa.
The suppied WOOIL 30 fr. pellets are doing one inch at 50 yd on co2. these are not consistent pellets.
James Kitching
In Reply to: Crosman 2240 or 1740 for beginner posted by Sport on August 30, 2000 at 10:51:25:
I like my 2240. It likes Crosman wadcutters.
It doesn't like Daisy pellets. Daisy pellets foul the barrel quickly.
With Cosman pellets I can shoot 3/4" groups at 8 yds and occasionally better.
Take em to Walmart to try the grip for size. It's contoured. It feels good in my adult hand. If it fits their hands well, they should have no trouble otherwise.
Have them take care not to cross thread the cap for the CO2 chamber. I burred it slightly and it took a while to smooth it back out.
-mike e.
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In Reply to: The "NEW WORLD ORDER "! Heil Hitler!!! (NT) posted by Wade on August 30, 2000 at 15:24:33:
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In Reply to: When and where and who started the anti-gun hysteria? posted by Dwight C. on August 29, 2000 at 16:03:11:
Dwight,
Pick up a book called "Unintended Consequences" by John Ross. It's kicking off a minor revolution here in the states.
Jack
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In Reply to: Re: Chinese pump-up posted by Art on August 30, 2000 at 01:02:05:
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In Reply to: Will 2260 barrell fit 2250? posted by Snake on August 30, 2000 at 13:49:34:
Go to the CROSMAN website and order (free) the schematic diagram for whatever CROSMAN airgun you desire. Look at the diagram and perform whatever repair, modification, alteration, upgrade, downgrade, steroid, growth hormone or genome alteration procedure that you want.
Contrary to the pipular belief of some circles; airgun tweaking is not rocket science;-)
Good luck,
Jeff
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In Reply to: Interesting Information that all should be aware of: posted by R. Malinka on August 30, 2000 at 15:19:25:
Loose shoes and tight ......
In Reply to: may be adios! posted by jj on August 30, 2000 at 13:59:27:
..we'll look forward to your return. Speaking of
returning....I suppose your new job cuts your off
time out for a little while? I was hopeing you would
find a way to make it to our Halloween Match with
Rodney and the bunch in late October. It'll be FUN!!!
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I will publish them on my site giving you full credit.
New guns old guns, low cost, expensive guns. If you shoot one, how about writing about it?
James Kitching
Fun Supply
In Reply to: Re: Maximun MV documented or claimed with Maccari spring in RWS 48-52-54 ? posted by MarkD on August 28, 2000 at 16:22:51:
Ditto, original spring broke in 2 places. With the Maccari GSI kit I get 770fps with super point pellets in .22. Any small velocity decrease will be more than made up in a better firing behavor. Dave
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In Reply to: " for all you air gun nuts.... " [USENET] posted by vZc® on August 30, 2000 at 10:48:26:
...only the LARC used 60 PSI max, if I remember correctly. My uncle cracked the case of his when he accidentally hooked it up to a 90 PSI air tank.
In Reply to: Interesting Information that all should be aware of: posted by R. Malinka on August 30, 2000 at 15:19:25:
It all sounds just too funny now, but it is certainly on the way and in Americas future! And we can only thank the liberal democraps for it.
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In Reply to: Interesting Information that all should be aware of: posted by R. Malinka on August 30, 2000 at 15:19:25:
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In Reply to: Before you go... posted by DaveG on August 30, 2000 at 14:07:25:
It was certainly a pleasure to meet you too, and to see that fantastic work you did on that Career 707.
Gotta admit, although we didn't get any great scores, we did have fun on that Red lane (least up til my wife show up).:-)
No doubt my access will be terminated tomorrow at noon.
But I ain't gone yet.:-)
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Date:
8/30/2000 12:17:00 AM
Written By:
George Reimann
Introduction: George Reimann, a direct descendant of Patrick Henry,
has graciously helped me with my explorations of the great orator's life.
George has his own opinions about the sanctity of our freedom and
liberty. He wrote the following article after a conversation he and I had
about issues pertaining to the United Nations and our involvement in it.
I think "Grandpa" Patrick would be very proud! -- Dr. Bill Rogers,
Director, Doctors for Sensible Gun Laws
The "New" United Nations
by G. A. Reimann
The United Nations has scheduled its "Millennium Assembly and Summit"
at UN headquarters in New York City in early September of this year.
Leaders of all 188 member nations are expected to attend (including our
Bill), making this event the largest gathering of world leaders. The
purpose of this assembly is to amend the UN Charter, to bring it up to
date for the new millennium, by changing the original charter to the
"Charter for Global Democracy." The Millennium Assembly is the
culmination of numerous UN-sponsored conferences conducted around
the globe in recent years, most of which were held behind closed
(sometimes locked and guarded) doors. The new charter will call for
massive UN restructuring and strengthening of its authority.
Some choice ideas considered for inclusion into the new charter are as
follows:
1.Remove the U.S. from its permanent seat on the UN Security
Council and abolish its veto power.
2.Create an international equivalent of the IRS to regulate and tax
international commerce, financial transactions involving currency
exchange, e-mail/internet use, etc.
3.Establish a UN central bank and create a UN currency.
4.Provide health care and a basic income for all people at the global
level.
5.Place U.S. military personnel under UN command.
6.Create a UN standing army with authority to intervene in a
nation's (American) affairs during "a crisis."
7.Give the International Criminal Court authority to prosecute
Americans without Constitutional protection.
8.Create an International Environmental Court.
9.Eliminate ownership of all firearms by private citizens.
Is our Executive Branch hostile to these ideas? No, it embraces them.
Strobe Talbot, Deputy Secretary of State, believes "…nationhood as we
know it will be obsolete; all states will recognize a single, global
authority" (TIME, 7/20/92). The Socialist nations of the European Union
endorse this concept.
A complication develops if the present UN Charter is revised, since the
U.S. ratified this charter for the purpose of peace-keeping activities
right after WWII. Revision of this charter will constitute a violation of
the contract and render the ratification null and void. The new Charter
for Global Democracy constitutes a treaty which the President has the
power to make (no problem at present), but which must be ratified by
two-thirds of the Senate (likely problem).
Other problems: A national grassroots protest is developing as the
Assembly's intentions become known, including three days of protest
outside UN headquarters during the Assembly. Compounding this is a
House Bill (H.R. 1146) by Rep. Ron Paul (R-TX) to terminate all U.S.
involvement with the UN and to move the UN out of the country. If this
clamor becomes too intense the Assembly attendees may become
inhibited, call a recess to delay the Charter revision, and await the
outcome of the upcoming election. No sense getting the cash cow
colicky too soon.
Does Al Gore fit into this? You bet! Here's how: Albert Gore Sr. liked
Black Angus cattle. He and Armand Hammer went into the cattle
business together, thereby beginning a long and mutually profitable
relationship. After Albert Sr. was defeated in his Senate re-election bid
by Bill Brock in 1970, Hammer appointed Sr. to the board of Occidental
Petroleum and also named him chairman of Occidental's coal subsidiary.
Salary: about $500,000 per year. This seemed awkward, since Albert
Sr. applied his oratorical talent to assailing corporate power, especially
that of the energy-producers. But when it became time to vote, Sr.
went their way. This duplicity was facilitated by the inattentive news
media and Sr. developed it into an art form.
And who was Armand Hammer, you ask? He was the son of Julius
Hammer, a physician who helped found the Communist Party in the USA
and who was active in America's Socialist Party. Julius named his son
after the arm and hammer symbol of the Socialist Labor Party. When
Julius went to prison for manslaughter after performing an illegal
abortion that killed the patient, the hammer was passed to Armand to
serve as Julius' surrogate. He went to Russia in 1920 and learned the
ropes under Lenin and Stalin, becoming the Soviet Union's first capitalist
and a Soviet agent.
When Gore Sr. was put out to pasture, Hammer became interested in
Gore Jr. When Joe Evins gave up Tennessee's 4th District seat in 1976,
Armand and Albert Sr. joined forces to make sure Jr. replaced him.
When Howard Baker decided to abandon his senate seat, "the team"
made sure Jr. became a senator in 1984, positioning him for the Vice
Presidency slot in 1992.
Without winking, Al Gore clamors for campaign finance reform while
under investigation for 1996 fund raising irregularities; he lambasted "big
tobacco" while maintaining ties to this industry; he blames "big oil" for
high fuel prices after recommending sale of a federal oil reserve to
Occidental, which enriched the Gore family. And he seems to be getting
away with it. Sr. taught Jr. well. Sometimes home-schooling has a
downside. But perhaps the greatest benefit from the Gore-Hammer
relationship was the transfer of influence and access from Sr. to Jr. -
similar to the transfer from Julius to Armand. Therefore, as Vice
President, Al Gore became the expert on U.S.-Russian relations.
A socialist is a fascist that has not achieved sufficient power.
Concealed behind Al Gore's Tennessee country boy façade is a
hard-edged leftist - Washington reared, privately schooled, and Ivy
League educated. Gore salivates for the chance to secure his place in
history by placing the U.S. under the global authority. The Constitution
be damned.
Does "...the unfairness, inequality and injustice of the present
distributions of wealth, power and policy making" sound like a line from
Gore's recent Convention speech? It's not. This line was lifted from the
Assembly sponsors' introduction to the September conference's agenda.
The fate of the UN and its Charter for Global Democracy may be
determined by the results of the upcoming elections. The U.S. has
already developed a de facto standing army. If this army seems more
attractive wearing blue helmets and descending in white helicopters,
then Al Gore with a Democratic Congress is the way to go!
"All ran toward their chains, believing that they were securing their
liberty, for although they had reason enough to discern the advantages
of a civil order, they did not have experience enough to foresee the
dangers." ~~ J. J. Rousseau, 1754
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In Reply to: Yep. posted by scot on August 30, 2000 at 14:31:56:
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In Reply to: 1322C pump neglected Why? posted by Douglas on August 30, 2000 at 14:29:20:
Douglas: It's a pumper, true there's no CO2 to buy but pumpers (pistols) as a rule don't have the power to blow your nose. There's a lot of pumping for little return. Compare this to a rifle which has maybe four times the pump stroke (and volume) and maybe four times the barrel length and you begin to understand why pump pistols are pathetic. CO2 power is right now, no pumping, just load and cock and party. The downside here is that CO2 cartridges cost fifty cents or more per each.
BUT, if you want one, get one.
HTH - Steve B.
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In Reply to: WOW, really Beeman recommends dry firing the P1!!! posted by jake on August 30, 2000 at 00:43:52:
Jake,
Yes, Randy Bimrose (at Beeman at the time) told me specifically to dry-fire my P1 after I reported that it continued to diesel. Two shots were all it took to stop the dieseling permanently. Dry-firing is also how the seal is fitted to this airgun initially. I reported that in the initial test report of the P1 pistol that was in the January 1996 "Airgun Letter."
Webley also dry-fires all their springers that have PTFE pistons seals - it's part of manufacture. The material squishes out from impact until it forms a tight seal in the compression chamber.
Regards,
Tom Gaylord
The Airgun Letter
staff@airgunletter.net
http://www.airgunletter.net
http://www.airgunletter.com
In Reply to: 1322C pump neglected Why? posted by Douglas on August 30, 2000 at 14:29:20:
CO2 is Not that expensive and having to pump 8 times is a BIG fun and time killer.. Frankly theres just not enough reasons take the pump route if you can have Co2.. Unless your really poor.. Any other excuse is just cheapness..
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In Reply to: Sheridan ProHype posted by Mac1 on August 30, 2000 at 13:51:21:
Good to hear you say that Tim: it confirms what I have suspected. I did hear someone say that the standard Sher .20 barrel was brass, and the UK 'Pro-Hunter' version has a steel barrel. Can you comment on this?
But all along, I have thought that the importers merely claimed this as a hollow justification for selling the CB9 for £189 (about $270) in the UK.
Have you ever exported any guns to the UK?. Much as I would love one of your steroided versions, or maybe a standard vintage Bluestreak, we have this damned 12 ft lbs limit which means that any gun imported from the US must state on the exterior packaging that it does not exceed that level of muzzle energy. I guess that rules out anything other than a (standard) new gun.
Cheers
Alan
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In Reply to: English sparrow posted by bill on August 30, 2000 at 14:21:16:
"Shooting quickly and intensely by several shooters armed with air or pellet guns, light gauge shotguns or .22 caliber rifles loaded with cartridges containing rat shot will reduce a sparrow population."
No kidding! :-)
From- Michigan State University Extension
Home Horticulture - 01701331
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In Reply to: Re: You may be lucky! posted by RBest on August 29, 2000 at 18:08:54:
Russ and everyone,
If a Kodiak/Patriot is not fitted with a white PTFE piston seal, then what I said about dry-firing to fit the seal does not hold. A parachute-type seal would NOT be made of PTFE, because PTFE does not work that way.
Regards,
Tom Gaylord
The Airgun Letter
staff@airgunletter.net
http://www.airgunletter.net
http://www.airgunletter.com
In Reply to: English sparrow posted by bill on August 30, 2000 at 14:21:16:
it looks like a dot, but in the scope it looks like a tiny little target. Good long range Career 707 practice with CP's.
It only weighs an ounce or less, about 30 times more than the pellet whizzing through it at 1000fps.
Oh my, this sounds a lot like "Ozzie Fudd, Wabbit Slayer"! "I'm a spawwow swayer, a guiwwtar pwayer, with a heawt like Phawoh, kill the spawwow!"....
here is a URL for a photo;
Jack
In Reply to: English sparrow posted by bill on August 30, 2000 at 14:21:16:
Also try this site:
http://www.interbrief.com/fiftybirds/house.htm
In Reply to: Hey Tim,if I was to buy a 2240 and a 2260 barrel,would I be able to switch barrels myself or will I have to send it away to get them switched?Thanks(nt) posted by Josh P. on August 30, 2000 at 14:00:52:
You need a couple of allen wrenches and a screwdriver. Loosen the allen screw on the TOP of the barrel band (leave the bottom alone, or you'll have to realign the barrel, which is a PITA), remove the screw holding in the rear sight, and remove the little allen screw just behind the breech of the barrel. Lift the breech a bit, remove the gas transfer port (make sure you note the orientation), and the barrel just slides out. Slip in the new barrel, slide on the breech, put the transfer port back in place, and tighten everything else back down.
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In Reply to: English sparrow posted by bill on August 30, 2000 at 14:21:16:
nt
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In Reply to: Guns like the Crosman 2250 posted by Relbik on August 30, 2000 at 00:08:56:
Hi Relbik, what kind of accuracy and power do you need? At 20-29 yards I would bet a scoped 2250 can do a good job on squirrels. You can get optional pistol grips for it (the stock on the 2250 is not the quick release type - the grip and stock are one piece.) The optional grips are the 2240 grips.
Have you ever had a co2 gun? I felt the same as you before I got one (a 2240), but now I think they're a gas [a pun]. CO2 cartriges can be bought for 50-60 cent each ($13/25), and you get 30 full power shots. I am waiting patiently for a 2250 modified by Mac1. I ordered it about a month ago, but he was waiting for his machinist to deliver a new batch of bolts and you can't rush craftsmanship. Ask the forum regulars about the 2250 by Mac1. Several folks have spoken highly of it. I will post my take on it after I get it and shoot it for a while.
My 2240 is much more accurate with open sights than a tf6 is equipped with a scope. It's also more powerful. For $40 I think it was money well spent. It is louder than my rws48 - it goes bang!
-ask around, maybe somebody near you has a 2250 he'll let you shoot.
-mike
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Everybody is so hot about the 2240 nowadays but why isn't this little pumper a better choice? No CO2 to buy ever, no hangy tanks, hoses and no change in POI due to outside temperature affecting the CO2 mix!
I bet some of the mod's and valve work touted in the 2240 can work on this gun as well. (with limitations of course!)
Any comments? Accuracy should be same as the 2240 right?
In Reply to: English sparrow posted by bill on August 30, 2000 at 14:21:16:
The english sparrow or house sparrow is actually a weaver finch and was brought to this country by a home sick english man about 100 years ago.
If you goto Enature.com they have some great pictures of both the Male and Female house sparrow.
Happy Shooting
Steve
In Reply to: English sparrow posted by bill on August 30, 2000 at 14:21:16:
The english sparrow or house sparrow is actually a weaver finch and was brought to this country by a hame sick english man about 100 years ago.
If you goto Enature.com they have some great pictures of both the Male and Female house sparrow.
Happy Shooting
Steve
In Reply to: Crosman 2240/50 posted by Jim on August 29, 2000 at 21:44:22:
I had bulked mine using an adapter that accepts a 6 oz. CO2 paintball bottles. Looks good with the 2250.
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In Reply to: Re: Guns like the Crosman 2250 posted by Nik on August 30, 2000 at 12:59:39:
Well Nik, from my experience 4" groups at 25 FEET ain't bad with a TF6. In fact, if you read the manual, the manufacturer only claims it is capable of something like 10cm @ 10m.
I had one and liked it in spite of its inaccuracy, bad ergonomics and low power. It's a nifty little novely/curiosity/conversation piece.
It's a fun gun ON THAT LEVEL and I'd still have one except for the fact that mine was jamming in the open breech position.
Somebody here said they greatly improved accuracy by chopping the barrel, and I felt that the barrel was ~4" too long myself. Chopping it would improve balance, shorten lock time and reduce the wicked barrel vibration , all these things would improve accuracy. It would look better too.
I'd really like to see the makers remake this gun with all the bugs worked out (especially the trigger - geeyawd!) As it is , IMHO, it is NOT a "shooter's gun."
-mike e.
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In Reply to: Re: Got my first springer!! posted by Lon on August 30, 2000 at 08:25:06:
Thanks, Lon. And I wanted to make clear I have nothing against PCPs and pneumatics. I think the Careers and others are great. But only being able to purchase one gun for awhile, and having space and noise limitations in my city, a springer just made more sense in my present situation.
Alan
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can someone please fill me in on exactly what this bird looks like. i am an avid starling hunter and have neard much about these sparrows but know little of their looks, sounds, range, etc. any help?
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In Reply to: Crosman 2240/50 posted by Jim on August 29, 2000 at 21:44:22:
n/t
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In Reply to: " for all you air gun nuts.... " [USENET] posted by vZc® on August 30, 2000 at 10:48:26:
Looks like a pipe bomb to me!
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In Reply to: Re: do u mean spring powered rifles by " single " ? (nt) posted by AL on August 30, 2000 at 13:23:35:
He is talking about single pump pneumatics where only one pump does any compression of air. The Daisy 717/747/777 and Baikal IZH 46 pistols come to mind, and many of the 10 meter rifles. Single pump airguns shoot around 400 fps very consistently. Multipump pistols are made by Benjamin and Sheridan. Multipump rifles are made by Daytate, Sharp, Benjamin, Sheridan, Crossman, etc. The more pumps, the more speed on the pellet. The Sharp Ace Hunter and the Steroid Benjamin from MAC1 can pump to over 20 FPE, but you rarely need that kind of power. I use 3 pumps on my Sharp for silhouette shoots up to 20 yards. I would pump more for pest control, but 5-6 pumps are probably enough for most squirrels, etc.
Multipump give you power when you want it,and you can vary power from shot to shot.
Note that with every additional pump, the point of impact is higher in relation to the point of aim, so you need to plan on that by either zeroing in at one pump level, or know how to compensate with a different aim point.
Each additional pump is also progressively louder, too.
Quality/accuracy seems to go up with price on the pumpers. A $40 dollar Crosman will not be as accurate or as powerful at max pumps as a Benjamin or Sheridan. A Benjamin or Sheridan will not be as powerful at max pumps as a Daystate or Sharp. But any of these may be perfect for specific needs like plinking.
So many airguns, so little time and money!!
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My IZH-61 from Golden Tollar finally arrived today, after WEEKS of waiting! If I recall, a few weeks ago, someone asked me to post what the duties were when I got the airgun. Well, I'm happy to report that there were NO duties! (Yay)
Well, I can't wait for the next time I go up to my cottage...
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In Reply to: may be adios! posted by jj on August 30, 2000 at 13:59:27:
John, I just want to let you know that it was a real pleasure to both meet, and shoot with you in Minnesota! I hope that things work themselves out for you, and will look for your further contributions to this forum!
Regards,
DaveG
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In Reply to: You may be lucky! posted by Tom Gaylord on August 29, 2000 at 17:49:00:
Thanks Tom for your comments.
I have made it a point to NOT do it again. I am only
hoping not caused damage.
Keith
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In Reply to: Whats your favorite airgun magazine? posted by Jeff R. on August 30, 2000 at 10:57:49:
US Airgun & Airgun letter(actually this ones a newsletter more than a magazine but we can hope someday. How about it Edith can the AGL go whole hog to a full fledged magazine? Inquiring minds want to know?
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In Reply to: Will 2260 barrell fit 2250? posted by Snake on August 30, 2000 at 13:49:34:
snake,
i see tim already answered. i thought i'd add that i converted my 2240 to a 1740. ordered the barrel and bolt from Crosman. easy conversion. way cool.
johnooh
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In Reply to: YES posted by Mac1 on August 30, 2000 at 13:53:27:
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In Reply to: Working on an air pistol review web site.... posted by TK on August 29, 2000 at 21:58:23:
I know I'd be willing to take the time and review a couple of my guns. That way we could have multiple reviews of the same gun instead of what we have now which is usually a single review in The Airgun Letter, various airgun magazines, or at websites like Brad Troyer's site. This would allow airgunners to determine for themselves whether a gun is worth buying instead of the biased opinion of a single reviewer. Not that all reviews are biased. It's just that individuals have their own preferences which may not be the same as other people's.
Let us know when your site is up and running.
Keep up the good work.
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auf Wiedersehen
I have taken another position elsewhere and may not be able to post on AGL any longer.
This was kinda like a forced situation as they are closing my department.
I may have been able to post from home using Blue light/Yahoo, but apparently someone ruined it for everyone else causing that ISP to be rejected.
On the bright side, for me anyway, the new position may allow access.
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In Reply to: Storing a CO2 gun ( with or without gas)?? posted by Duke on August 29, 2000 at 23:59:48:
It depends on the gun. If you ask such questions be specific with make and model. The old crosmans don't mind a charge. The new crosmans don't appreciate it.
Later
Tim
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In Reply to: Storing a CO2 gun ( with or without gas)?? posted by Duke on August 29, 2000 at 23:59:48:
duke,
if we're talking about current models like Crosman's 22xx series store 'em empty. they'll start to leak if you leave them gassed, it's also safer. older models are another story, some like Crosman's 160's can be left charged.HTH
john
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In Reply to: Re: Will dry firing a springer a couple of times do it in? posted by RBest on August 29, 2000 at 15:49:46:
Russ,
Thanks for the comment. It was exactly twice. Both
times after cleaning the gun. The gun does seem to shoot
ok though.
Keith
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In Reply to: Will 2260 barrell fit 2250? posted by Snake on August 30, 2000 at 13:49:34:
The barrels all fit on the guns with the same breech on all the current .22 bolt action crosmans. 2240-2260 including the 2289 and 1322.
Later
Tim
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In Reply to: Sheridan rifles posted by Aaron on August 30, 2000 at 13:13:19:
The Brits always have to add some spice. The Pro-Hunter, Ratgetter, Rabbit Stopper, Crow Nabber same as you buy anywhere else. The Distributors have the market all to themselves so they can make serius bucks doing nothing more than selling standard items with a cool name. It is just Marketing.
Later
Tim
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Are they the same diameter? Anyone know the actual outside diameter measurement?
Thanks,
ssssssSnake
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In Reply to: Mac1 LD Pistol posted by LeadDriller on August 29, 2000 at 11:17:08:
Worth every penny. This pistol wants to be a rifle, in fact I've been looking for a practical means of stocking it ever since I got it. Mine will easily shoot better than I can shoot a pistol. I did mount a scope on it once and was getting 585fps with BSA Excalibres and printing about 3/4" at 35yds. I'm sure I was the limiting facor on accuracy. The trigger is fantastic, sights are very good, very gass efficient, I get close to 180+ full power shots from a 3.5oz tank. Most of my guns prefer a particular pellet, but I havent found a pellet this gun didn't like from the heavy domed Koreans to the lightweight hollowpoints! This gun is consitancy personified! My favorite use for the gun is to embarras rimfire rifle shooters at my local range. It's a bit large and unweildy for what I'd traditionally use a pistol for. This gun isn't exacly suitible for a belt holster or the glove box of a car. Eventually I plan to get another stock MK-1, 78-G, or if the Airgun-Gods deside to shine on me someday, perhapse a Skanaker for that purpose. I'm sure there are those who would argue the point but, I believe the LD-1 could easily hold it's own against many high end PCP pistols.
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In Reply to: I read an article on the tommy gun from the 30s posted by Tyler on August 30, 2000 at 04:03:09:
You used to be able to buy military surplus fire-
arms through the NRA.
I remember when Sears printed a notice in their
catalog stating that due to the '69 Gun Control
Act, they wouldn't be selling any more handguns.
They did, however, sell shotguns and rifles- you
could get a sporterized M-1.
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In Reply to: Re: Chinese pump-up posted by J.Ford on August 30, 2000 at 07:45:50:
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In Reply to: Crosman 2240 or 1740 for beginner posted by Sport on August 30, 2000 at 10:51:25:
I have a 2250, which is basically the 2240 w/ shoulder stock attachment (removable, add grips for pistol) and a longer barrel. It also includes a cheap but usable scope & mounts. Not a bad deal.
I understand that the 2240 is no slouch in the power department either. A .22 wad of lead moving around 450 fps packs enough whallop to make can mangling loads of fun. I understand that the 2240 makes better use of available CO2 than does the 1740, as the .177 pellet exits the barrel before the CO2 charge is fully exhausted, hence, wasted CO2. Same number of shots per powerlet for both calibers, or so I've been told.
Cost of pellets may be a determining factor, if they shoot allot. The .177 is less expensive than .22, but if they don't shoot that often, it's probably negligible.
.22 pellets are much easier to handle for smaller fingers, and inserting them into the breech is also easier.
Hope this helps,
Penn
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In Reply to: Sheridan rifles posted by Aaron on August 30, 2000 at 13:13:19:
I believe the pro hunter is what they call the blue streak/silver streak in England.
-john-
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In Reply to: single vs multi pump posted by Tom on August 30, 2000 at 12:52:19:
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In Reply to: single vs multi pump posted by Tom on August 30, 2000 at 12:52:19:
Dave is right. Single-strokes don't push pellets out very fast. It's the old law of physics about having to put equal force in, and all. That's why powerful springers have hard cocking strokes. The only advantage that can be gained is through leverage. Multi-stroke pumpers are the same way. The last several strokes can be pretty hard, unless you get a leverage advantage. That's why some people are against putting scopes on multi-pumps.
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In Reply to: Crosman model 622 posted by Nobody on August 30, 2000 at 00:24:06:
Nobody,
The 622 was rendered fairly gutless by the design allowing quite a bit of the valve charge to exit the side of the rifle near the clip. In order for 622's to have ANY longievity at all a hole must be drilled and a pin must be installed firming up the valve/tube connection. In stock trim these guns continually pull the tube off the valve body. It is a bad design that has a simple fix. The gun is around 500 fps with average weight .22 pellets and after we goose it a bit it shoots over 600. Whether we do a dual or a single we always beef up the action to valve connection and we have zero comebacks on that fix. I'll pay $75 for clean ones cause with the dual mod they easily fetch $150 if they are clean. It is a real fun gun but it is far from powerful and not gonna reach out as far as an LD until you but the spurs to it. The gun loves Eley Wasps. Here is my hype for the dual.
Operating the 622 with dual bulbs is just like the 1100 crosman now using the cap and guts from that system. If you can get an owners manual or info on that model it would be similar. The procedure for charging is;
Pump forearm back/open
Pull Clip/magazine out
CO2 must be completely exhausted before attempting to remove cap. Fire out remaining CO2 if needed.
Remove cartridges
Install 2 new CO2 back to back
Screw cap down till bottom bulb pierces
You won't be able to turn cap when it pierces
Then you push the lever on the cap to the side so that pierces the front bottle. Let gun come to room temp for best power. Do not let it bake in the sun. You will get more consistent shots if you wait a half minute or so between shots, shooting slowly will result in the best possible accuracy. This gun likes Eley wasp pellets. It will sometimes hang up with other pellets if you point it up while cycling the pump. The gun needs no lube in the chamber. It does not need to be disassembled to clear the barrel if it jams. Make sure you are aware of the audible difference when the gun runs low on gas. Don't push your luck. If it does jam take clip out and don't feed it more pellets. Put fresh pierced cartridges in it and wait till it gets warm. Then you will have the best chance of firing out the pellets lodged in the barrel. Again. Do not add more ammo. CO2 only and hold the pump shut while you fire. If you
stack them up to the point where you cannot remove clip or can't close the pump you need to remove barrel and send to us for clearing. The barrel can be removed by slacking the strap screw on the barrel support and removing the allen set screw in the center of the top of the receiver halves.
To bulk fill gun remove piercing cap and remove CO2 cartridges. Fit bulk adapter and extension tube.
Once a gun is a dual it can be a bulk. 622's in stock trim can't be bulked.
Later
Tim
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In Reply to: Sorry Art I meant Alan......nt posted by RLC on August 30, 2000 at 07:45:39:
He had a box selection of about forty different sizes, and gave me a couple. They are a tiny fraction fatter than the standard rings, and so are a snugger fit on the sliding part of the valve, and in the housing. I reckon they've given me a good few extra fps.
I looked on the website of a specialist O-ring supplier a while back. They do about four million different sizes in about three million different materials. Can't remember the name, but a search engine found a lot of companies.
Have you got a B45-3, or are they for something else?
Cheers
Alan
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In Reply to: Crosman 2240 or 1740 for beginner posted by Sport on August 30, 2000 at 10:51:25:
sport,
very easy to operate. the bolt action is a joy from previous loading designs. I converted my 2240 to a 1740, i felt it would be beter for punching targets in the basement. 35 usable shots per Co2. trigger shoe ($5) & lighter spring from mac1 really improve accuracy. the 2240 (.22 cal) has good power, rodents at 20 yards. for $40 it's a good bet for a trainer.HTH
john
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In Reply to: single vs multi pump posted by Tom on August 30, 2000 at 12:52:19:
Tom, I am not sure what single pump you mean... There are several single "pump" pnuematics out there, but most of them are of the 10m variety shooting at rather low velocities. There are a decent number of multi pumps, most notably the benji/sheridan guns, and they are not too difficult to pump to max. Overpumping, well if the manulal says 8 pumps max, then I suggest you stop at 8. The benji/sheridan models produce more fp/lbs than do any of the single pumpers, usually by at least a couple of hundred ft/second.
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In Reply to: Dangerous Senate Bill.....SB-2099 posted by Tony U. on August 30, 2000 at 11:47:39:
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Is there a difference between the seridan pro hunter .20 and the sheridan blue/silver streak 2.0 or are these the same gun??
Reply much appritiated
Aaron
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In Reply to: Crosman 2240 or 1740 for beginner posted by Sport on August 30, 2000 at 10:51:25:
You will be real happy with the 2240. For $39.00 at Walmart you get good power and very good accuracy. You really can't go wrong for the money.
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In Reply to: Guns like the Crosman 2250 posted by Relbik on August 30, 2000 at 00:08:56:
I had a tech force 6. Contrary to what everyone else here seems to think, I liked mine.
Trouble is I never got the kind of accuracy I wanted from it. I was getting 3-4" groups at 25 yds.
This may have been because I shortened the barrel and didn't crown it well enough, or because I've never shot a springer well.?
But don't let the other posters stop you from buying one. With some work on the trigger, the TF-6 aint bad.
HTH
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In Reply to: Mad at PETA... posted by SWAT955 on August 29, 2000 at 15:16:59:
>>The way i see it we evolved logic and therefore >>we have dominance over animals
While I agree that PETA needs a life (and perhaps a big bowl movement) Man did not 'evolve' logic - man was given dominion over animals by his creator God.
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In Reply to: Co2UNE webpage update posted by CJ on August 30, 2000 at 08:52:39:
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Can someone educate me on the pros and cons between these two designs? Which is better for someone who can't exert a lot of force? Does the multipump allow you to get greater muzzel velocity? Do multipumps have a means of preventing overpumping? I am sure many of these are dependent on the exact model, but help me with whatever generalizations you can. Thanks.
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In Reply to: Benjamin Franklin pellet gun?? posted by Dan on August 29, 2000 at 12:32:09:
If it has a serial number on it, the model number will be on the rear end of the barrel. Benjamins with serial numbers were made after about 1955. There are a few nuts like me who collect old Benjamins, but not enough to put them in high demand. Without seeing your Benjamin, my guess is that it's worth between $50-$100.
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In Reply to: Simmons Scope Question.. posted by Chris Farhi on August 30, 2000 at 00:47:02:
If you go to swfa.com, they are selling all of the 44mag scopes with a free Oehler's(sp?) rifle rest that is really worth around $75. The 6.5-20X with A/O and target turrets is $139.99 and shipping (if it's still at the same price that I bought mine at). I have heard warning, however that it is not springer rated. I almost bought a second one when they added the rest to the deal.
Good Luck,
docwells
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In Reply to: Re: Liberals and Conservatives posted by Mitch on August 29, 2000 at 21:42:26:
Funny. In my political textbook, someone who favours progress or reform is called "progressive". I don't know why, but for some reason it seems to make sense ;-)
Liberals, on the other hand, pursue the liberty and the free choice of the individual.
That adheres to your bumper sticker.
When other issues are brought into the discussion, the Democrat vs Republican issue is messed up even further, because a liberal would be in favour of liberal (less) laws on gun control, and also in favour of liberal (less) laws on abortion.
Now we're cooking.
peter
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In Reply to: Re: Are break barrel springers as accurate/consistant as a fixed barrel posted by Charles H on August 30, 2000 at 04:47:07:
It's just a simple matter of basic mechanical design; a break barrel spring piston rifle can never be as accurate as a fixed barrel rifle like a TX 200 or HW 77/97. Repeatability of the position of the muzzle of the barrel in relation to the receiver where the scope is mounted isn't as precise. If you are thinking of shooting in competetion against other shooters who are shooting fixed barrel rifles you will be putting yourself at a disadvantage if you choose a break barrel rifle. Why put yourself at a disadvantage?
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Any opinions on this one for a PCP?
Regards
JmD
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... to lube the barrel of a PCP (fx 2000)?
What do I have to know about the lubricant for pellets for a PCP? That is, what components should/should not be in the lubricant etc. Names of different brands of lubricants is not of much help since I live in sweden, and most of you seems to be from the USA or England, and the chance is that you are using brands that are not available here.
Thankful for any answer
JmD
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I am near to buying an RWS Diana 6G pistol and would appreciate any input. The price is very reasonable. I am more interested in your experience with the gun, accuracy, etc. I am looking at 10 meter shooting with it. Thanks
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In Reply to: Pictures Reviews of Fx2000 Carrer 707 ??? posted by Omer on August 29, 2000 at 14:56:06:
I´ve just ordered a FX 2000 for myself, and before I did, I read all I could about it and similar guns. There are no reviews of it on the Internet as far as I´ve seen. The Webley Axsor is almost identical, and you can find a mixed review of that gun and the Webley Raider on Webley´s site. There´s also a review of the Venom Axsor SK. Links below.
What sets the FX 2000 apart from the Axsor is:
(FX 2000 has)
- Adjustable powersetting
- Built in pressure-meter
- Less expensive (at least here in Sweden)
- Better barrel (I´m not shure about this one)
Both the Axsor and the FX 2000 are manufactured in Sweden (where I live), and I´ve talked to both manufacturers about their guns.
The developer of the Axsor parted from the others and started his own factory where he now makes the FX 2000. He uses some other suppliers of parts for the gun than the Axsor factory does. That´s why the FX 2000 is cheaper. He also claims (of course) that the FX 2000 is more matured than the Axsor. But after all, he is the developer of both guns, so he should know.
If there´s anything else you want to know about the gun, feel free to ask. I´ll help out the best I can.
Link to the Awsor/Raider review:
http://www.webley.co.uk/p-ag-ar.php3
Link to review of Venom Axsor SK:
http://www.webley.co.uk/p-agw-ask1.php3
JmD
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In Reply to: Re: TX200 SR Trigger Adjustments Different from TX200 posted by RON on August 30, 2000 at 11:38:07:
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In Reply to: Re: Odd Flight Path - Revisited - Regarding No 7 posted by Gordon S on August 30, 2000 at 07:52:10:
Gordon,
Thanks for the info on how you did it.
As I live in the USA and don't have a similar setup I'll just have to keep trying with what I have; and I don't know if the grey dust is normal or not. But my TX-200 (Mk 3 with the short barrel and sleve)after 3000 shots does show a little grey dust at the muzzle so it could be.
Maybe someone with a similar setup could tell you how much grey dust is normal.
I would be curious as to how your "tests" go.
Jim P.
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In Reply to: Re: Crosman 2240 or 1740 for beginner posted by Tom L. on August 30, 2000 at 11:28:16:
Thanks Tom,
I forgot to mention that I have a Benjamin (model 147, I think) pump up pellet pistol. It still shoots good, but the 10 year old has some trouble pumping it up. Pinched fingers, etc.
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Senate Bill SB-2099 will require us to put on our 2000 1040 federal tax form all guns that you have or own. It may require fingerprints and a tax of $50 per gun. This bill was introduced on Feb. 24. This bill will become public knowledge 30 days after it is voted into law. This is an amendment to the Internal Revenue Act of 1986. This means that the Finance Committee can pass this without the Senate voting on it at all. The full text of the proposed amendment is on the U.S. Senate homepage. http://www.senate.gov
You can find the bill by doing a search by the bill number.
Make some phone calls, send some e-mails, write some letters......
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In Reply to: Are break barrel springers as accurate/consistant as a fixed barrel posted by Tyler on August 30, 2000 at 04:21:01:
Tyler, a large part of this answer will depend on what particular models you are interested in... But in general yes the break barrels have the potential to be just as accurate as fixed barrel guns. I'm not sure what models Lew is using, but I have no experience with any fixed barrel springer that was/is smother than a break barrel, unless it was tuned... The barrel lock up, vs. a fixed barrel has nothing to do with the power plant(spring and piston), and in some cases are the same between the two types of guns...
Regards,
DaveG
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In Reply to: Fun Supply,,Tech Force 4X32 Scope, Anybody Tried Them?? posted by McClure on August 29, 2000 at 19:20:55:
They are NOT the same as the prior version scope sold by compasseco, so dont confuse them, dont know if they changed the model no or not, but they quit selling the others due to poor quality.
They ARE the same as the currently stocked Compasseco scopes, they have not had them in long tho.
I have tested them extensively, on lots of guns, at least 5 scopes in all.
In Reply to: Re: TX200 SR Trigger Adjustments posted by Joe Whittaker on August 30, 2000 at 10:50:03:
The "SR" Model has a different trigger mechanism than the TX200. I need info on the " SR " trigger. Thanks
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In Reply to: Re: Are break barrel springers as accurate/consistant as a fixed barrel posted by Lew on August 30, 2000 at 08:31:17:
Lew, a clarification on one of your points. Fixed and break barrels are both springers. Top level fixed barrels like the TX200 and HW97 and 77 have been designed to have low recoil, but they are still springers. AC
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I was wondering where I could get an exploded view Dwg. of the RWS Mod. 52 with parts listed, and also some thing showing the trigger adjustment..Thanks and have a good .1" ...Tater...
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In Reply to: Crosman 2240 or 1740 for beginner posted by Sport on August 30, 2000 at 10:51:25:
They are both good and pretty accurate piostols
for the money. Don't forget these are C02 powered
and it may get a little tiresome buying powerlets
they are typically .50 cents each and will yield
about 40 shots per. You might want to think about
1322 or 1377 which are pump pistols, also a good
deal for the money.
Tom L.
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In Reply to: Re: Webley Tomahawk posted by Andy S on August 30, 2000 at 09:47:02:
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In Reply to: Who sells scope bubble levels to prevent canting (nt) posted by Bob on August 29, 2000 at 22:18:13:
I'm pretty sure Airgun Express sells them. I have one made by ScopeLevel (that's the co. name) on my R9 and it works great!
-Mark
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In Reply to: Webley Tomahawk posted by Denny D on August 30, 2000 at 09:28:00:
Thanks for the update Denny. I'm looking at one of these myself. I hope the cost is $500 or less.
-Mark
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I'm looking for a magazine to subscribe to myself but before I do I wanna hear from you guys what magazine is the best. So go ahead and post a reply
Thank you!
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I'm getting my boys (13 & 10) started in the shooting sports. They both enjoy shooting my 22/45 and are pretty good. Problem is, it's hard to find the time to get them to the range. I'm looking at the subject airguns as a possible starter gun for them for practice in the garage into a pellet trap. Are these good air pistols for starters? I like the bolt action single shot over a semi-auto.
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In Reply to: TX200 SR Trigger Adjustments posted by RON on August 30, 2000 at 10:06:05:
Ron
If you haven't already been there this site has a little
about it.
Joe W.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jerry Jackson"
Newsgroups: alt.sport.air-guns
Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2000 8:42 PM
Subject: for all you air gun nuts....
> Although the drawing is crude, the performance is stellar!
>
> http://www.jcj.net/z28/images/bb-gun.gif
>
> If anyone builds one of these, be careful with the pressure! ...and let me
> know how you like it.
>
>
In Reply to: Re: Crosman 2250? posted by Bill on August 30, 2000 at 10:13:34:
Same gun but the Crosman 2289 is a pumper. It might meet your needs.
HTH,
Todd
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In Reply to: Airguns vs. Beanie Babies posted by chasm on August 29, 2000 at 21:50:41:
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In Reply to: 10M air rfle match resources, reference material needed. posted by Peter kay on August 30, 2000 at 07:18:18:
Here is a link to 10M discussion board.
Has an FAQ & some rules. Sure you could get futher help here.
How will the Burris stand up to the shock of the
R-9? Does anyone have any experience? I have a set of Beeman rings, are they a good choice for mounting? Thanks for the help.
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In Reply to: Air Gun Targets? posted by Bob Miller on August 29, 2000 at 23:56:34:
Download the free target maker for Windows
In Reply to: Crosman 2250? posted by Bill on August 29, 2000 at 20:25:23:
Thanks for all the advice guys- but last night I was thinking I bet the gun is expensive to shoot. Buying all those Co2's and all. So is there a gun simular to the 2250 with the same velocity and caliber, only not using Co2?
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In Reply to: PETA posted by AIRPOWER on August 30, 2000 at 00:00:47:
I remember that. They also wanted to change the name of the beaverkill river, and any other town/river with the word "kill" in it.
-john-
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In Reply to: Crosman model 622 posted by Nobody on August 30, 2000 at 00:24:06:
Not worth much and doesn't shoot very hard. Your welcome
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In Reply to: Re: The Crosman 357 Co2 revolver posted by Steve on August 29, 2000 at 19:38:17:
The 6" barrel gets you more velocity (435 vs. 375 according to Crosman's website, and that fits pretty well with the math). The longer barrel also gets you a longer sight plane, which will allow you to shoot the gun more accurately when shooting with iron sights. The new models with the round butt grip come with an integral 3/8" rail in the sight rib, and you can now get a kit with a 4" and 8" barrel. Swapping barrels takes about a minute and a screwdriver, and a new barrel assembly costs about $12.
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In Reply to: 10M air rfle match resources, reference material needed. posted by Peter kay on August 30, 2000 at 07:18:18:
There is a chapter devoted to it in the book, "Airgun Digest, Vol. 3", by J.J Galan. You might want to contact the U.S Shooting team for more info.
-john-
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Any suggestions on how to adjust the trigger on my TX200 SR? It's quite a bit different from the "srd." TX200. Any pointers are welcome. Thanks
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In Reply to: an email sent received on my springfield armery reply down the page posted by M Boyle on August 29, 2000 at 15:21:16:
so much for spell checkers! emails are a form of casual conversation not a "formal written correspondence as you would think.
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In Reply to: Western Single Action Replica posted by Tony U. on August 29, 2000 at 14:58:33:
Crosman made a nice single-action Colt style revolver in both .177 and .22 pellet (also BB).
Unlike the 38T&C and the 357x series, the entire cylinder revolved on the SA's.
The only drawback is the loading process, but you get used to it quickly. The pellets are loaded into the front of the chambers, skirt first. A small spring retains each pellet.
Velocity on my .22 version is about the same as my .22 38C. Accuracy is great, sights are lousy though. Mine has the standard Colt groooved topstrap for a rear sight. But I can still whack a can at 20 yards with it. Windage is on, but I need to raise the height of the front blade a little to get it sighted in better.
It may not be a Umarex, but it feels and fires like a Colt SA. I see them all the time on Auction Arms, Brad's classifieds and in the listings from Bryan&Associates. Got mine for $45 off Auction arms.
Jack
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In Reply to: Re: no need for Ebay. $10-15 is retail on pricewatch posted by M Boyle on August 29, 2000 at 16:04:24:
Go to Secon Source. They sell 1.44 floppies for $2 each. And I've got the damn things coming out of my ears. Where are you? I'll give you a couple for free.
-Zero the Inestimable
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In Reply to: Webley Tomahawk posted by Denny D on August 30, 2000 at 09:28:00:
Do you know how much this gun costs?
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In Reply to: Opps... fire+pellets= bad! posted by Andrew on August 29, 2000 at 16:42:35:
If you just melt the lead, it releases almost no fumes. Also, since they were submerged in wax, any miniscule amount of vapor that was realeased probably got trapped in the wax.
A good pellet lube is spray laquer. No kidding. Just make sure the stuff's dry before you stick it in your gun.
-Zero the Inestimable
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I called Pyramid Air yesterday and they said the expected available date of the FAC version has slipped from August to January because the seal that works for the 12lb version doesn't work for higher power level (25 FPE). I think he said it was the seal nearest the pellet, whatever that is.
Denny D
In Reply to: homemade darts posted by Mike Lee on August 30, 2000 at 02:10:55:
There's nothing to damage in a smoothbore anyway. The tape is soft enough. You could shoot it through a rifled barrel if you wanted it too.
Also, you can get 12 packs of darts made for pellet guns for $1.99 at K-Mart.
-Zero the Inestimable
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In Reply to: Who sells scope bubble levels to prevent canting (nt) posted by Bob on August 29, 2000 at 22:18:13:
Bob;
Sinclair International sells them...They have both 1" and 30mm... I have and use both, they are good...I am shooting benchrest and 1000yd F-class and find them to be a necessity more than a luxury...I can see where they would be nessary with an air rifle also...Sinclair's Ph # 219-493-1858...they are called anti-cant devises...and are $23.75 for 1" and $24.50 for 30mm...hope this helps....Have a good .1" ...Tater....
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In Reply to: Re: Williams peep sight on a Benjamin 392 posted by Larz on August 30, 2000 at 09:01:13:
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In Reply to: Williams peep sight on a Benjamin 392 posted by Greg on August 30, 2000 at 07:58:17:
Greg,
The peep is designed for ease of use in acquiring the site picture.
Rather than having to worry about aligning the rear notch with the front blade,
the design of the peep is such that your eye automatically centers the blade within
the peeps iris.
So, when looking through the peep, all you need to worry about is
keeping the front blade aligned with the target, your eye/brain coordination takes care of the rest.
As with any other sight, the peep can be set up for either the six o'clock hold or point of aim hold,
is basically a matter of prefference. Personally, I prefer the 6 o'clock hold.
My sights are adjusted so that the top of the blade rests on the bottom of the bull in order to be on center.
HTH
Larz
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In Reply to: PETA posted by AIRPOWER on August 30, 2000 at 00:00:47:
A few months ago PETA started working on the Green Bay Packers to change the name. Packers refers to meat packing.
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Webpage shows pics of before and after mods and a pic of the Chorny FPS.
In Reply to: When and where and who started the anti-gun hysteria? posted by Dwight C. on August 29, 2000 at 16:03:11:
i think it was in the 20s. hoods found out the the thomson machine gun was legal at the time. the gang wars at that time. made the Gov start down the slippery slope.. i think it was called the 1932 gun control act..(I think) then the next was after JFK was killed..68 gun control act..IMO
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Morning boys,
In the latest sportsmansguide on page 2 is a simmons red dot scope and on page 63 is a nice bsa 4x scope. Does anyone know if either one of these will survive my rws 45s recoil? tia.
Steve
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In Reply to: Are break barrel springers as accurate/consistant as a fixed barrel posted by Tyler on August 30, 2000 at 04:21:01:
I am happier with a fixed barrel as far as accuracy goes. Some specific break barrels may be as accurate if you learn to shoot with it but generally speaking fixed barrels have lot less recoil / bounce than the springers.
IMHO
Lew
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In Reply to: Air Gun Targets? posted by Bob Miller on August 29, 2000 at 23:56:34:
Here's a link to a page of airgun target links.
http://www.softwareliquidators.com/airguns/Downloads.htm
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In Reply to: Got my first springer!! posted by AC on August 29, 2000 at 22:17:01:
I have been very satisfied with mine and thats after purchasing fine pnuematics which I like also. I think it makes a fine edition to anyone's collection for the reasons you mentioned. Very solid, nice trigger, real pride of ownership.
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In Reply to: Gecado 66 Match Air Rifle posted by Steve on August 29, 2000 at 23:44:21:
This gun is a Diana model 66. It is the same as the earlier model 65 (Winchester 333) except for the stock. The 65/333 had a more rounded "50's" look with a straight forearm and checkered grip.
RWS in New Jersey is your ticket.
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What should the sight picture look like on a Benjamin 392 with a Williams peep sight. On the advice of the forum users I purchased a 392 and the Williams peep. Any advice would be appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
Greg
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In Reply to: Re: Odd Flight Path - Revisited - Regarding No 7 posted by Jim P on August 29, 2000 at 19:56:56:
Hi Jim
a bit more background.
I have a 4 to 12 by 40 scope on a .22 Theoben Rapid 7. The rifle may have a different name in the US though.
I can see the pellet flight very clearly if I put on max zoom (x12) and focus for infinity. I bench shoot to get a steady image. Then I aim against a patch of bright sky where the flight time will be long enough to see the pellet and give good contrast. I shoot just above the horizon and into an area where I can see the pellet is going to fall safely. With my eyes I guess I get approx 1/4 to 1/2 a second before the pellet disappears out of sight i.e. too small to see. This is at speeds around 800 fps. It is plenty long enough to watch the pellet get to the top of it's trajectory and then start to loop back down.
I have heard that night shooting with gun mounted flashlights and CP's gives a *very* good view of the flight path. The CP's flat and shiny rear end acts like a mirror apparently.
The path I'm getting however is not just the up an down of an ideal trajectory but has a kind of spiral component superposed on top. It's a quite marked oscillation and is affecting accuracy at ranges beyond 35 yards which is what I want to cure.
When I next go to the range I'll try running the gun without the silencer and see what happens. I also need to figure out how to retrieve a shot pellet.
The only thing I notice is a grey dust coating the silencer baffles which is coming off as the rifling cuts into the pellet. I think this is normal?
Best Regards Gordon
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In Reply to: Chinese pump-up posted by Alan on August 29, 2000 at 16:41:33:
I've got one of these. They are good little rifles!
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In Reply to: Where did you get your O-rings Art?......nt posted by RLC on August 30, 2000 at 07:43:43:
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In Reply to: Chinese pump-up posted by Alan on August 29, 2000 at 16:41:33:
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In Reply to: Re: Fun Supply,,Tech Force 4X32 Scope, Anybody Tried Them?? posted by jukt on August 29, 2000 at 19:32:35:
One is Air rifle recommended:
TF4x32AR.....$49.95 same model Funsupply sells.
The other is a Heavy Duty Hunting Scope:
TF4x32.......$29.95 which you are refering to.
hth,
Chavez
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In Reply to: Simmons Scope Question.. posted by Chris Farhi on August 30, 2000 at 00:47:02:
It's made in the Phillipines, focuses to 9 yards or so, optics and build quality similar to 44MAG from the same factory. Incredible bargain has been going on at Midway for almost a year now. I have one on my QB78 and just bought another. Can't decide whether to put new one on my Winchester 75 or my RWS48 (RWS48 is probably risky, that 50mm lens is big and heavy)
Most airgun scopes have target turrets, this thing doesn't. Finish goes beyond matte to Simmon's silly "Black Granite", which is wrinkle-finish paint.
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In Reply to: Well I will have to put my skirt on for this one..... posted by Marty Silver Streak on August 30, 2000 at 01:20:55:
In Reply to: CO2 Military-style semi-autos posted by Gerry on August 29, 2000 at 20:53:44:
this gun looks nice, i've read a good review of it also.
http://www.crosman.com/cgi-bin/carbo.dll?icatcommand=itempg2&passitemid=206&secid=1&subsecid=16&eflag=0&itmcnt=10&catalogname=Gunshop&orderidentifier=24.168.62.23-967634507
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I am looking for reference material, preferable books and magazines, that provide information on air rifle match shooting, olympic shooting formats and the equipement used in this sport.
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In Reply to: Thank you ..Roland for your RWS 54 home page the tigger works on my 46 as well.. posted by commando on August 30, 2000 at 02:28:46:
Glad to hear it...
Thumbs up for you on the coming match!
Roland
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In Reply to: Thanks for the info... posted by scot on August 29, 2000 at 09:58:08:
anyone interested in CO2 powered items will enjoy searching for the complete set of Rudy Merz patents. His CO2-powered fishing rod alone is worth the effort.
DT Fletcher
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