SUWIN Errors During Setup


SU00xx Error messages
Windows 95/98 SUWIN Error Message List
Windows Setup Was Unable to Update Your System Files
Other SUWIN ERRORS
SU0168 Error During Installation Method 1
SU0168 Error During Installation - Method 2
SU0168 Error During Installation - Method 3
SU0168 Error During Installation - Method 4
SUWIN ERROR! This Version of Windows cannot be upgraded
SU995035 Error Message During Windows 98 Setup

There's a lot of different numbered Suwin error's and they are not all easily fixed.
"Suwin caused an illegal instruction in setupx.dll"
"SU0168 Error During Installation"
And like error messages.
The best method I've came accross is as follows:

1st. The problem is not with the PIO mode on the HDD or other Bios selections.
You need to disable your internal cache.  If you want you can disable your external cache and startup CPU speed at low if running a 586 or 686 chip etc..
The SUWIN error happens when it tries to verify that the memory range it wants to use is free.
Well if you have your internal cache enable these memory ranges are protected and windows cannot use them for the install.
You THEN enable cache after the install. This should fix your problems.

NOTE:
You shouldn't have to reduce the cpu speed or even disable it's cache's unless there is a severe memory problem or Bios incompatibility. Understand the the above is a work around, and at that moment it gets the person past the problem. In reality though, there are more serious problems that should be looked at.

In testing we've loaded Win98 and Win98SE on everything from a P100 through Xeon 600 without a hiccup. Sure it takes some work to get the bios settings correct, but I'm not convined that the problem isn't bad memory.
Dennis Waldron;  Contributing editor



Other SUWIN ERRORS

SU99 is a prefix that is added to all errors that Setup does not have a specific error message for. These errors are often caused by low conventional memory. If you have already created a Startup Disk, quit Setup, shut down your computer, insert the Startup Disk, and restart the computer.
Then, run Setup from the MS-DOS command prompt.



SU0168 Error During Installation Method 1

How to install the Full or OEM Version of Windows 95 onto a disk with an operating system already installed:

1.Start the install process by running the Windows 95 setup program.

2.When the program tells you that you can't install this way
(i.e., you get the "SU0168" error), press the reset button to reboot the PC.

3.Go to the C:\WININST0.400 directory.

4.Edit the file C:\WININST0.400\SETUPP.INF

5.There is a line: ProductType = number; change the number to 2.

6.Start Windows 3.1, choose the Run command from the File menu, and enter the line below:
C:\wininst0.400\suwin.exe /SrcDir=DD /IQ /U:xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
(Change DD to the location of your Windows 95 distribution. If on CD-ROM, it will be something like D:\WIN95; for diskettes, probably A:\.)




SU0168 Error During Installation - Method 2

Another technique from the Usenet archives for upgrading a Windows 3.1x installation using the full or OEM Windows 95 distribution.

This is a slightly edited version of a message posted on
comp.os.ms-windows.setup.win95 by Norman Bevitt, Enterprise PLC - Internet Services.

1.Reboot your PC and start up the previous installed Windows 3.1x as usual.

2.Insert your Windows 95 CD-ROM or diskette #1 into the drive. Let's assume a drive ID of D for your drive although any other identifier will do.

3.Launch the SETUP.EXE program, located either in D:\ or D:\WIN95.
To accomplish this, you may either launch the file manager, change to drive D:
and start Setup by double-clicking it's name on the file list or you may choose File/Run from the program manager. See the various text files on your Windows 95 distribution for additional parameters to specify for Setup.

4.Depending on the parameters you specified, several dialog boxes appear.
Acknowledge them with Ok or Continue, up to the License dialog box.
Do not press any button in the license dialog box. If you do, Setup will bring up the
SU0168 error message, terminate itself and you will have to restart from stage (3).

5.Switch to the program manager (or equivalent shell) by using ALT + TAB or entering the task manager with CTRL + ESC and double clicking on the program manager entry.

6.Launch a windows text editor, NOTEPAD.EXE for example. Select File/Open.
Examine your hard disks for a directory called X:\WININSTO.400 or so, where X stands for your hard disk's identifier. Setup created this directory on the first drive, that has enough free space to hold all the files needed for the installation process. From this directory select the file SETUPP.INF to edit.

7.In the file, you will see a line containing the string [data].
Insert a new line right below the [data]-line and type the string OEMUP=1.
The piece of text should now look like the following

[data]
OEMUP=1

Save the changed file and quit the editor.

8.Now switch back to the setup program using the methods described in (5).
You will see the License dialog box again. Read the license text carefully. If you agree to its contents, press the Ok button.

9.If everything worked out fine, the next window you should see is the Setup Wizard main window. From now on, follow the instructions given by the Setup Wizard.
If you still get the SU0168 message, something went wrong. In this case, repeat the whole thing, beginning with step (3).




SU0168 Error During Installation - Method 3

The Windows 95 setup program on the "full" and "OEM" distributions exits with an "SU0168" error if it thinks you are attempting to upgrade from a previous version of Windows.
Nevertheless, you can perform an upgrade with the following technique:

1.Either boot directly to MS-DOS or exit from Windows 3.1x to MS-DOS.
Do not simply launch an MS-DOS prompt ("DOS box") from within Windows.

2.Locate and rename the files WIN.COM and WINVER.EXE -- WIN.COX and WINVER.EXX are good choices. They will probably be in your \windows directory.
If there are other copies of these files elsewhere on your hard drive(s), remove or rename them, too.

3.Start the Windows 95 setup program. If you are loading from diskettes, it will be A:\SETUP, where "A" is the letter of your diskette drive. For the CD-ROM distribution, it is usually D:\WIN95\SETUP, where "D" is the letter of your CD-ROM drive.

Note: If you already have a \windows directory (and you probably will), Setup will attempt to install Windows 95 to \windows.000. Change this directory specification to \windows (or wherever Windows 3.1x is installed) if you wish to perform an upgrade.




SU0168 Error During Installation - Method 4

The Windows 95 setup program on the "full" and "OEM" distributions exits with an "SU0168" error if it thinks you are attempting to upgrade from a previous version of Windows.
Nevertheless, you can perform an upgrade with the following technique.

This approach is similar to Method 3, but requires that you have a bootable Windows 95 "DOS7" diskette for the version of Windows 95 you desire to install;
-- i.e., a "Startup Disk." You also need to ensure that your system will not automatically run Windows when you boot to the hard drive.

1.Boot to the "DOS7" diskette. Issue the command sys c: to copy a new MS-DOS bootstrap and system to your hard drive.

2.Reboot your system from the hard drive.

3.Start the Windows 95 setup program. If you are loading from diskettes, it will be A:\SETUP, where "A" is the letter of your diskette drive. For the CD-ROM distribution, it is usually D:\WIN95\SETUP, where "D" is the letter of your CD-ROM drive.

Note: If you already have a \windows directory (and you probably will), Setup will attempt to install Windows 95 to \windows.000. Change this directory specification to \windows (or wherever Windows 3.1x is installed) if you wish to perform an upgrade. 



SUWIN ERROR! This Version of Windows cannot be upgraded

What you must do is rename the file called Win.com its in your c:\windows\ directory. And then reinstal windows. You can use this trick with all windows versions (only not sure about NT) if you install a Win version (OEM) other then the original one rename Win.com and install then your done



SU00xx Error messages

SU0010, SU0012, SU0015, or SU0016

If you receive one of these messages during Setup, see Installing Windows 98 on a System Running Windows NT and Installing Windows 98 on a System Running OS/2 in the Setup.txt (excerpt from) for more information.

SU0011

Your hard disk is password-protected. You must first remove the password protection. For more information, see your computer documentation.

SU0013

To set up Windows 98, your startup drive must be an MS-DOS boot partition. If your startup drive is formatted as HPFS or NTFS, you must create an MS-DOS boot partition before running Setup. For more information about creating an MS-DOS boot partition, see your computer documentation.

You may also receive this error if you have third-party partitioning software such as EZ drive or Disk Manager installed. If so, reboot your system and run Setup from an MS-DOS command prompt.

SU0018

"Setup cannot create files on your startup drive and cannot set up Windows 98. There may be too many files in the root directory of your startup drive, or your startup drive letter may have been remapped."

The root folder of a drive can hold a maximum of 512 entries (files or folders). This message indicates that Setup has detected too many directory entries in the root folder of your computer, and Setup cannot create the files it needs to set up Windows 98. Move or delete some files from the root folder of your drive, and then run Setup again.

Note: Files with long filenames use more directory entries than files with 8.3 filenames. Because the number of entries in the root is limited to 512, the root directory can fill up with fewer files if long filenames are used.

SU0167

A file or folder called Desktop exists on your computer. Rename or move your current Desktop folder, and then run Setup again.

SU0410

Setup cannot open a required file, possibly because the file is missing or damaged, or because your computer does not have enough memory.

If you have already created a Startup Disk, quit Setup, shut down your computer, insert the Startup Disk, and then restart the computer. Then, run Setup from the MS-DOS command prompt.

SU99xxxx

SU99 is a prefix that is added to all errors that Setup does not have a specific error message for. These errors are often caused by low conventional memory. If you have already created a Startup Disk, quit Setup, shut down your computer, insert the Startup Disk, and restart the computer. Then, run Setup from the MS-DOS command prompt.



Windows Setup Was Unable to Update Your System Files

One of the following symptoms may occur:

1. Windows stops responding (hangs) during Setup, when it attempts to load, or at the End User License Agreement screen.

2. You are asked whether you want to overwrite the boot sector. Choosing Yes may allow you to complete the Setup procedure, but Windows hangs when it attempts to load.

3. The images on the screen become distorted.

4. After you restart the computer, you receive the following message:

5. Windows Setup was unable to update your system files

Why?
This may be caused by virus detection that is built-in to your machine, or by virus detection software running on your system.

To disable built-in virus detection you will need to run the configuration program for the CMOS that came with your machine, or contact your machine manufacturer.

To disable virus-detection software that you have running on your system, you may need to remove the lines that start the program from your AUTOEXEC.BAT or CONFIG.SYS files.

After you have disabled the virus detection software, re-start your machine and re-run Windows Setup. Once you have successfully completed setup, it is okay to re-enable the virus detection software.

Some computers include a feature that prevents applications from writing to the boot sector. Such features are normally in the form of anti-virus protection set in your computer's CMOS settings. If anti-virus protection is enabled, Windows cannot complete its installation, or it does not load properly.

How To Fix This:

Disable the anti-virus feature in your computer's CMOS settings, and then reinstall Windows. Once you have successfully installed Windows, re- enable the anti-virus feature.

For information about accessing your computer's CMOS settings, please consult your owner's manual or your computer manufacturer.

NOTE: In order to disable Compaq's SafeStart Manager in the CMOS settings, you must upgrade the BIOS to at least version 2.26b.

The following computers have been found to display this problem:
Acma Pentium 120 computer
Award Modular BIOS v4.50G, copyright 1994-1995, Award Software
586 PCI Green BIOS 52xver.A
Award BIOS v4.50 3.03G, dated 12.02.93, 84-93 VT82C486A
NCR 3150 laptop computers with a Phoenix BIOS dated 1993

These computers have a Boot Sector Protect setting. If this option is enabled, you may receive the following error message at startup:

Non-system disk or disk error. Replace and strike any key when ready.

If you disable this option in the computer's CMOS settings, Windows should start normally.



SU995035 Error Message During Windows 98 Setup

When you upgrade your computer to Windows 98, you may receive the following error message:
"SU995035. Invalid command option was specified check command line and try again or type setup/?

This happens if the Setver.exe file is damaged.

Do the following steps:

Restart your computer to a command prompt, using the appropriate steps for your operating system.

For Windows 95-based computers:

Restart your computer.

When the "Starting Windows 95" message is displayed, press F8, and then click Command Prompt Only.

For Windows 98-based computers:

Restart your computer.

Press and hold down the CTRL key after your computer completes the Power On Self Test (POST), and then choose Command Prompt Only from the Startup menu.

Q178548 No 'Starting Windows 98' Message at Startup

At the command prompt, type the following commands, pressing ENTER after each command:

cd\windows
ren setver.exe setver.old

Extract a new copy of the Setver.exe file from the Microsoft Windows 98 CD-ROM.

The easy way to extract with 98 is buy using SFC.

Q129605 How to Extract Original Compressed Windows Files

Q129971 Windows 95/98 Setup Error Message List


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