Who are the Seventh Day Baptists?
Frequently Asked Questions
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1. Is this the church that was founded by Ellen G. White?
No, Ellen G. White is considered a prophet and a founder
in the Seventh-day Adventist church. The Seventh Day Baptist
church was already about two hundred years old when the
Seventh-day Adventist church was formed. The Adventist
movement was introduced to the Sabbath in 1845 by Rachel
Preston Oakes, a Seventh Day Baptist from Verona, New York.
In 1863 this movement, under the direction of Ellen G. White,
became the Seventh-day Adventist church.
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2. Is this church some kind of cult?
No. While the Seventh Day Baptist church is
a Sabbath keeping church they are first, and foremost,
a Christian church with beliefs and practices very
similar to other evangelical Baptist churches.
Cults can be identified by non-biblical beliefs,
such as denying the deity of Christ, and their use of
psychological coercion to control members. This coercion
often leads to the breakup of families, something which no
true Christian church desires. Seventh Day Baptist beliefs
are founded solely on scripture and the church firmly
believes in the family and freedom of thought under the
guidance of the Holy Spirit.
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3. Then what is the Seventh Day Baptists Church?
While not the biggest or most well known of the
Sabbath keeping churches the Seventh Day Baptist church
is quite possibly the oldest. The Seventh Day Baptist
church has over a 300 year history in North America and
even longer in England. They are, quite simply, an
evangelical Baptist church that observes the Sabbath.
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4. Why do the Seventh Day Baptists keep the Sabbath?
Seventh Day Baptists keep the Sabbath out of a
conviction that the Ten Commandments remain valid moral
code for us today. The fourth commandment, the only
one we are told to remember, says,
8 Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.
9 Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:
10 But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy
God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son,
nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor
thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:
11 For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea,
and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore
the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.
(Exodus 20:8-11, Deuteronomy 5:12-15)
Seventh Day Baptists believe the Sabbath is a sacred time,
instituted at creation and affirmed throughout the Bible.
Because we desire to follow God's commandments, Christ's
example and the will of God we observe the Sabbath as a time
of rest, worship and celebration.
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5. Aren't The Ten Commandments just for the Jews?
The Sabbath was ordained by God at the creation of
the Earth (Genesis 2:3) and given to Adam and Eve, not
Moses, so it predates the Jews by millennia.
Further, Christ affirms everyone of the Ten
Commandments he mentions. Indeed he says in Matthew
5:17-20 that, "Whoever breaks one of the least of these
commandments, and teaches men so, shall be called least
in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever does and teaches
them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of
heaven."
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6. Isn't the fourth Commandment the only one not mentioned in the New
Testament?
While it is correct that there is no scriptural
record of Christ specifically affirming the fourth
commandment it can be said with absolute certainty that
he lived all ten commandments. Only two customs of
Christ are recorded in scripture, teaching the people
(Mark 10:1 in any modern translation) and keeping the
sabbath. (Luke 4:16) Although Jesus was constantly
challenged on the issue of the Sabbath He never said,
or even implied, that the Sabbath, or any of the Ten
Commandments is or ever would be abolished. Christ
stated clearly in Matthew 5:18 that, "Till heaven and
earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass
from the law, till all be fulfilled". Christ, our
example, kept all Ten Commandments all of his life.
Further we must insist that the Bible is the word
of God from Genesis to Revelation. Just because
something is not stated in the New Testament does not
mean that it is not the fully inspired word of God.
When Paul wrote in 2 Tim 3:16 "All Scripture is
God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking,
correcting and training in righteousness", he was
referring to the Old Testament. The New Testament had
not yet been completed.
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7. Didn't Jesus say it was okay to break the Sabbath?
Some Christians claim that in Matthew 12:1-13 and
the corresponding account in Luke 13:10-17 Christ is
saying you can ignore the Sabbath. Let's look at the
Matthew account.
12:1 At that time Jesus went on the sabbath
day through the corn; and his disciples were an
hungered, and began to pluck the ears of corn, and
to eat.
2 But when the Pharisees saw it, they said
unto him, Behold, thy disciples do that which is
not lawful to do upon the sabbath day.
3 But he said unto them, Have ye not read
what David did, when he was an hungered, and they
that were with him;
4 How he entered into the house of God, and
did eat the shewbread, which was not lawful for
him to eat, neither for them which were with him,
but only for the priests?
5 Or have ye not read in the law, how that
on the sabbath days the priests in the temple
profane the sabbath, and are blameless?
6 But I say unto you, That in this place is
one greater than the temple.
7 But if ye had known what this meaneth, I
will have mercy, and not sacrifice, ye would not
have condemned the guiltless.
8 For the Son of man is Lord even of the
sabbath day.
9 And when he was departed thence, he went
into their synagogue:
10 And, behold, there was a man which had
his hand withered. And they asked him, saying, Is
it lawful to heal on the sabbath days? that they
might accuse him.
11 And he said unto them, What man shall
there be among you, that shall have one sheep, and
if it fall into a pit on the sabbath day, will he
not lay hold on it, and lift it out?
12 How much then is a man better than a
sheep? Wherefore it is lawful to do well on the
sabbath days.
13 Then saith he to the man, Stretch forth
thine hand. And he stretched it forth; and it was
restored whole, like as the other.
The Pharisees, who must have been watching Christ
looking for a chance to discredit him, said that the
act of picking grain was harvesting and therefore work.
But Christ replies if you are hungry on the Sabbath it
is right to eat the food that is available and reminds
the Pharisees of King David when he eat the bread
reserved for the Priests. (1 Samuel 21:1-6) Also it
is lawful, Christ points out, to do God's work on the
Sabbath as the priests did. If the priests were
guiltless when they worked on the Sabbath could those
who work for the Son of God be guilty? (Numbers
28:9,10) Finally, Christ asks us if we would help an
animal of ours that was in distress on the Sabbath. If
we would then could it be wrong to help another person
on the Sabbath? Is it wrong to do good on the Sabbath?
Of course not! Christ has in these verse cleared away
much of the human clutter that had built up around the
fourth commandment and shows us, His followers, how we
should observe His sabbath.
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8. Did Christ change the Sabbath to Sunday?
In all of the New Testament Jesus Christ never
mentions Sunday or the first day, as it was called at
this time. In fact there are only eight references to
the first day of the week in the New Testament.
(Matthew 28:1, Mark 16:2, 9, Luke 24:1, John 20:1, 19,
Acts 20:7 and 1 Corinthians 16:2) The first six of
these refer to the same first day of the week, the day
the empty tomb was discovered. While this was, and is,
the greatest discovery of all time the fact remains God
blessed the Sabbath and commanded us to remember it to
keep it holy. If Christ had wished us to transfer the
holiness of the Sabbath to Sunday he would have said
so. But he did not. Christ, our example, kept the
Sabbath all his life.
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9. But After Christ's death didn't the apostles meet on Sunday?
If Christ did not see fit to change the Sabbath
to Sunday what authority would the Apostle have to change
it? But the fact is they did not change it. On the
day of the resurrection, referred to in John 20:19 the
disciples are assembled together in fear of mobs of
Jews, not for worship.
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10. Did Paul change the Sabbath to Sunday?
Again, if Christ did not see fit to change the
Sabbath to Sunday. What authority would Paul have to do
so? But he did not change it either. Throughout the
book of Acts we read of Paul, Barnabus and the others
worshiping on the Sabbath. (Acts 13, 16:14, 15, 17:2-
4, 18:4) Paul followed Christ's example and made it
his practice to attend synagogue on the Sabbath. (Luke
4:16, Acts 17:2) In Acts seventeen we read;
2 "And Paul, as his manner was, went in unto
them, and three sabbath days reasoned with them
out of the scriptures,
3 Opening and alleging, that Christ must
needs have suffered, and risen again from the
dead; and that this Jesus, whom I preach unto you,
is Christ.
4 And some of them believed, and consorted
with Paul and Silas; and of the devout Greeks a
great multitude, and of the chief women not a few.
5 But the Jews which believed not, moved
with envy, took unto them certain lewd fellows of
the baser sort, and gathered a company, and set
all the city on an uproar, and assaulted the house
of Jason, and sought to bring them out to the
people."
We see from these and other verses that Paul had a
powerful ministry to God fearing Jews who were already
attending synagogue and nowhere is it written that he
told them not to continue to attend the synagogue.
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11. But in the book of Acts it says Paul preached on Sunday, so the
church
did
keep Sunday?
Paul certainly preached on the first day of the
week, and the second and the third and every other day.
That only proves Paul's devotion to the faith, something
that is not in question. The reference in Acts reads;
7 And upon the first day of the week, when the
disciples came together to break bread, Paul
preached unto them, ready to depart on the morrow;
and continued his speech until midnight.
What is recorded in these verses is a meeting that
began on Saturday evening and extended until midnight.
We know this because the Jews started their days at
sundown. The first twelve hours of a day is at night
and the next twelve hours in daylight. This is why in
Genesis we read, "And the evening and the morning were
the first day", and so on. Sundown on Saturday is, for
the Jews, the start of Sunday. While the meeting
referred to in Acts 20:7 is certainly a Christian
gathering it appears to have been held because Paul
planned to depart the next day, on Sunday. The
reference to the breaking of bread may refer to the
Lord's Supper, a meal or the Lord's Supper as part of
a meal. (See Acts 2:46) All these forms are still
done today at Christian gatherings on any day of the
week. This text neither mandates or even implies that
Christians should forsake the Sabbath.
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12. Are you saying the early church didn't meet on Sunday?
No, not at all. They held meetings on everyday of
the week. Look at a modern Sunday keeping church, they
might have a men's prayer meeting on Monday, a women's
meeting on Tuesday, choir practice on Wednesday, a
Thursday night Bible study and a youth meeting on Friday,
but Sunday is their special day of worship. The early
church didn't have all those programs but would meet, eat,
sing and preach on a moments notice. ( Acts 2:42-47 )
But the early church kept the Sabbath as their special
day of worship.
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13. If neither Christ or the Apostles changed the day to Sunday who
did?
In the year 66 the last Roman Procurator of Judea
stole vast quantities of silver from the Temple in
Jerusalem. The Jews of Jerusalem revolted and
destroyed the Roman garrison in the city. The Roman
Governor of Syria sent in a large force to restore
order but these troops were also routed. These two
victories convinced the Jews they could cast off the
Roman occupation and regain their freedom. Thus began
the Jewish revolt of 66-70 A.D. which led to one of the
great catastrophes in Jewish history. Rome sent the
General Vespasian and his legion to restore order.
Vespasian did so in a brutal methodical way. In 68
A.D. he destroyed the Qumran community but not before
they hid their scrolls in the caves by the dead sea.
In 70 A.D. the last major stronghold of the Jews in
Jerusalem was destroyed along with the second temple,
except for the western wall of the temple which is
sometimes called the wailing wall. In 73 A.D. the last
remanent of free Jews were holding out at the mountain
top fortress of Masada. These defenders committed mass
suicide rather than surrender to Rome. The Romans then
imposed a war reparations tax on all Jews. No one
knows how many Jews were raped, tortured or sold into
slavery, but it has been estimated, that as many as one
million died in the revolt.
Christians were still identified as a sect of the
Jewish faith at this time. No one will ever know how
many Christians living in Judea and Galilee suffered
and died with their Jewish neighbors.
The Jews of Judea were blooded but not destroyed.
In 132 A.D. Bar-Kokhba lead a revolt against the
Romans. Again the Jews were encouraged by early
victories but the Romans came back at them with a
vengeance. Roman General Severus and his legion began
the systematically destruction of Jews fortresses and
walled cities. When he was done 50 percent of the
population of Judea was dead and tens of thousands of
men and women who remained alive were sold into
slavery. Jews were forbidden to set foot in Jerusalem
and the province was renamed Palestine. It was a dark
and dangerous time to be identified with the Jews.
During this period the predominate day of worship
among Christians gradually began to change from the
Sabbath to Sunday. The day changed, in part, because
of the need to disassociate the Christian movement from
the rebellious Jewish nation. Sunday, the day that
the empty tomb was discovered and already a pagan day of
worship, was an easy choice.
Two hundred years later when the Roman Emperor
Constintine legalized the Christian church in 313 A.D.
the tradition of Sunday worship was already well
established in most provinces of the empire.
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14. But didn't Paul say in Ephesians 2:15 that Christ abolished the
law?
Do you really think that God has abolished the law
that says, "You shall not murder", "You shall not
commit adultery", or "You shall not steal?" It will
always be wrong to worship another God, steal, commit
adultery or murder, and not merely because these laws
were repeated in the New Testament! Remember what
Christ said in Matthew 5:18 For verily I say unto you,
Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall
in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled".
Christ did, through his life, death and
resurrection abolish "the of law of commandments
contained in ordinances" mentioned in Ephesians 2:15.
These are the Laws of Moses. These ceremonial and
ritual laws kept Israel as a separate nation and
foreshadowed the coming of Christ. These ordinances,
such as those concerning sacrifices, ritual
cleanliness, and feasts, were fulfilled with Christ and
have no further purpose. The Ten Commandments do not
foreshadow Christ and still have a purpose in defining
sin today. The Ten Commandments will only be fulfilled
at the second coming.
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15. So you don't believe that we must keep all the laws of Moses?
No. The Bible makes a clear distinction between
the Ten Commandments and the Laws of Moses. The mere
fact that God has set them apart from the rest of the
law should show us they are special laws. Indeed God
did not entrust the Ten Commandments to a mere human
scribe but came down from heaven himself and spoke the
Ten Commandments directly to all the assembled Hebrew
nation and then wrote them in stone with his own finger
and gave them to Moses. (Deuteronomy 5:22-27) I know
this is not how Hollywood portrayed the events but it
is how the Bible records them. Even today recording
something in stone, either figuratively or in reality,
is a sign of permanence.
When it came to the rest of the law, the Law of
Moses, God passed it to a single man, Moses, and
allowed him to recorded it on scrolls.
The stone tablets containing the Ten Commandments
were then placed inside the ark of the covenant but the
rest of the law, what we call the Law of Moses, was
kept outside the ark.
All of these actions, giving the Ten Commandments
one time, to the entire assemblied nation, and the
Mosaic law another time, recording the Ten Commandments
on stone, the Mosaic law on scrolls, keeping the Ten
Commandments in the ark and the Mosaic law outside the
ark were done to make clear the distinction between the
two. The Ten Commandments are God's eternal moral law,
the Mosaic laws were applications of the Ten
Commandments containing instruction on the calendar,
feasts, civil government, ceremonial purity and
morality. The Mosaic law is what was fulfilled by
Christ on the cross.
In the New Testament Christ continued to show the
distinction between the Ten Commandments and the Law of
Moses when in the Sermon on the Mount He affirms every
commandment he mentions. In verse 21 Christ affirms
and expands the commandment on murder. In verse 27 He
affirms and expands the commandment on adultery. But
when it comes to the law of Moses and the law of an eye
for an eye (Leviticus 24:20) Christ, in Matthew 5:38,
sets it aside with the command to turn the other check.
In 5:43 Christ sites the law of Moses to love your
neighbor and hate your enemy (Deuteronomy. 23:3-6) and
sets it aside with love your enemies.
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16. Do you make a distinction between the ceremonial law and the
moral
law?
There is only one distinction, the one that God
makes in the Bible, between the Ten Commandments and
the Mosaic laws. Refer back to question 15
for more on the distinction between the Ten Commandments
and the Mosaic laws.
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17. Didn't Christ redeem us from the curse of the law?
Here is what Galatians 3:13, 14 actually says;
13 Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of
the law, being made a curse for us: for it is
written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a
tree:
14 That the blessing of Abraham might come
on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we
might receive the promise of the Spirit through
faith.
Christ has redeemed us from the curse of the law,
the Law of Moses, which is, if we did not obey it we
would be under the curse of death. Do you really think
that if you murder, commit adultery, steal or worship
another God that you will not suffer the penalty of
your sins? Remember,
7 Little children, let no man deceive you:
he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as
he is righteous.
8 He that committeth sin is of the devil;
for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this
purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he
might destroy the works of the devil.
(1 John 3:7,8)
Sin is defined in the Bible as the breaking of the
law or lawlessness. (1 John 3:4) I ask you, how can
there be lawlessness without a law? What law remains
so that there can be lawlessness? The answer is the
Ten Commandments remain as God's moral law!
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18. But doesn't Paul say that the law is a tutor to bring us to
Christ?
Here is what the Bible says:
Galatians 3:19 Wherefore then serveth the law?
It was added because of transgressions, till the seed
should come to whom the promise was made; and it was
ordained by angels in the hand of a mediator.
20 Now a mediator is not a mediator of one,
but God is one.
21 Is the law then against the promises of God?
God forbid: for if there had been a law given which
could have given life, verily righteousness should
have been by the law.
22 But the scripture hath concluded all under
sin, that the promise by faith of Jesus Christ might
be given to them that believe.
23 But before faith came, we were kept under the
law, shut up unto the faith which should afterwards
be revealed.
24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to
bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by
faith.
25 But after that faith is come, we are no
longer under a schoolmaster.
26 For ye are all the children of God by faith
in Christ Jesus.
We see from verse nineteen that whatever Paul is
referring to was added through a mediator. The Ten
Commandments were given to mankind directly from God.
So the law that Paul was referring to here can only
be the law of Moses. These laws were added, as
mentioned in verse nineteen, to the Ten Commandments
as amplification and applications and served as
a schoolmaster guiding us to Christ.
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19. But aren't Christians justified by faith in Christ, not the law?
Absolutely, but does that mean we are free to sin,
to break the law of God? No! As Paul said in Romans
6:23, the wages of sin is death. How do we learn what
sin is so as to avoid it? Read Romans 7:7-13.
7 What shall we say, then? Is the law sin?
Certainly not! Indeed I would not have known what
sin was except through the law. For I would not
have known what coveting really was if the law had
not said, "Do not covet."
8 But sin, seizing the opportunity afforded
by the commandment, produced in me every kind of
covetous desire. For apart from law, sin is dead.
9 Once I was alive apart from law; but when
the commandment came, sin sprang to life and I
died.
10 I found that the very commandment that
was intended to bring life actually brought death.
11 For sin, seizing the opportunity afforded
by the commandment, deceived me, and through the
commandment put me to death.
12 So then, the law is holy, and the
commandment is holy, righteous and good.
13 Did that which is good, then, become
death to me? By no means! But in order that sin
might be recognized as sin, it produced death in
me through what was good, so that through the
commandment sin might become utterly sinful.
(NIV)
Paul is saying here as clearly as anyone can that
the law remains in effect, holy righteous and good, to
show us the sin in our lives. Paul, a student of the
Torah, a man who meet Christ face to face, and became
an apostle of God said, "I would not have known what
sin was except through the law." But yet many today
say that the Ten Commandments are null and void and
they serve no purpose for Christians.
In Titus 2:11-14 we read,
11 For the grace of God has appeared, bringing
salvation to all men,
12 instructing us to deny ungodliness and worldly
desires and to live sensibly, righteously and
godly in the present age,
13 looking for the blessed hope and the appearing
of the glory of our great God and Savior, Jesus
Christ;
14 who gave Himself for us, that He might redeem
us from every lawless deed and purify for Himself
a people for His own possession, zealous for good
deeds. (NASB)
Christ has redeemed us from our lawless sins but
we are still human and we will still sin. Therefore as
Christians we are instructed to deny ungodliness and
worldly desire and to live righteousely. The
difference between our humble efforts at leading a
Christ-like life and the sinless perfection that God
the Father demands is covered by the blood of Christ.
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20. Colossians says you shouldn't judge in regards to Sabbaths. Why do
you?
First, when have I judged you? I am simply
stating my reasons for keeping the Ten Commandments and
the Sabbath. Only God is the judge.
But let's take a look at the verses in question.
"Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or
in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the
new moon or of the sabbath days: which are a show
of things to come; but the body is of Christ."
It should be clear from all I have said and from
an open minded reading of these verses that Paul is
referring to the volume of Mosaic laws. These laws
included many regulations on meats, drinks, holydays,
new moons and sabbaths. The fact that Seventh Day
Baptists do not keep the Mosaic Sabbath regulations in
no way changes the necessity of observing the seventh-
day Sabbath of the fourth commandment. The Colossian
converts, who at this time would have been still
attending synagogue on the Sabbath, would have
understood this.
Now, in keeping with the Seventh Day Baptist principal
of freedom of thought under the guidance of the Holy Spirit,
you must decide for yourself what is the will of God,
in regards to the Sabbath, apart from the customs and
traditions of men.
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21. What is the Seventh Day Baptist position on the tribulation and
rapture?
While no official survey has ever been done, I am sure
that most members of the Seventh Day Baptist church are
dispensational in theology and believe in a pre-tribulation
rapture. The Seventh Day Baptist denomination itself takes no
position believing that this is an issue where freedom of
thought under the guidance of the Holy Spirit is appropriate.
One Seventh Day Baptist pastor who takes a post-tribulation
stand has created a web site you can visit at
BeastWatch.com .
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22. What is the Seventh Day Baptist position on the abortion issue?
The Seventh Day Baptist denomination is a pro-life denomination.
The latest official declaration, adopted at the August 1996 General Conference, reads;
(Trying to get the statement from the General Conference office.)
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23. Where can I learn more about the Seventh Day Baptist church?
There is a growing wealth of information about the Seventh Day Baptist
church on the Internet. First I suggest that you visit the Seventh Day Baptist
General Conference of the USA and Canada web
site. At the General Conference web site you can find the addresses of Seventh Day Baptist
churches in North America, as well as other historial and general information. Next you can
subscribe to a weekly email devotional newsletter published by a retired Seventh Day Baptist
pastor at the New Covenant
Ministries, web page. Finally don't forget to visit the Links
Page right here at this web site. There you will find a list of other Seventh Day
Baptist church web sites and additional Seventh Day Baptist online ministries.
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