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Session Start: Wed Nov 19 10:09:35 1997
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*** WindRyder (mikeg@barracuda.nmt.edu) has joined #thewizardsway
hi
* Watcher casts a spell of peace and illumination upon WindRyder!
Well met
There is a reason for this meeting - I do feel that
you have a message for me, or I for you
hmmmm
perhaps both
could you tell me more about yourself
It seems too random for it to be random.. so to speak
Myself - of course
that is where I feel things should head .... is for
me to learn more about you
I'm a sophomore at the University of Texas & in the
school of business
I haven't felt a passion for the classes I'm taking -
they don't seem to fit with my direction in life - so, my
grades have suffered
Now, I'm going to be leaving the school & going to
the community college until I know which degree will suit my
purpose better
that makes sense ....
what about your spiritual path
I don't feel any degree I earn will have much
importance within my purpose herre in lofe, except more that
an ealry validation - my spiritual path stretchs back very far
i am also being moved to tell you a bit about myself
I've always been & felt the age of my soul - when
young I was the one who seems mature - - all my life I've
felt that I have an important role to play in the changes
comming
Please do
Let this be a two way street
before we go on
I am a senior at New Mexico Tech
majoring in computer science and math
my spiritual path is always in a constant state of
flux
and it is not uncommon for foundations to fall
i am Wiccan, work with crystals
I've read some about Wiccan practices & beliefs - I
feel some affinity towards the beliefs - my spiritual path
holds me close to Nature
and various ethereal/psychic skills i've developed
my main goal now is to be an "open channel" for the
universe
so that it may work together with me
so the energy may get wherever it is meant to go
free of my control
...
that is what i feel i was meant to tell you about
myself
I found that what drew me to Wicca was Nature
also the Sun, Stars, and Moon
My beliefs are very fluid - they are gretly
influenced by some of Deepak Chopra's books
Namely - the Way of the Wizard
I'm very drawn to the archetype of the wizard
Always have been
I am also drawn to the Wizard
but never have been able to make any manifestation
of it
* WindRyder feels something really big is about to happen
I was told that I had a poewrful spirit guide - and
it was described as being like a wizard - this was told to me
shortly after creating this channel
do you know anything about a Sword?
and what New Orleans and South America have to do
with things
(from lucid dreams)
WindRyder - whatever events are comming - I've felt
them comming ever since I was in preschool - I distinctly
remember feelings
when you said New Orleans & South America I
immediately thought of the Voodoo Oracle deck - it's a
variation of tarot
add the Sword into the equation ....
Sword in the stone
... it felt like I was going to be "given" a Sword
on this day
Suit of swords in the tarot
hmmmm
also in the New Orleans dream
it was in an abandoned mall
that these men took me
and Iniitiated me into their fold
white robed
Abandoned mall could equall loss of materialism..
also in that dream people were on a drug that made
them look like Bill Clinton, the world had just declared war
and
my grandmother was ill
almost all true
now
the South America dream just occurred last night
where someone wanted me to come with them to South
America
to meet someone
....
once I started flying in that dream, I went lucid
and I decided to end the dream
before I got to south america
maybe i made it after all
but time meNs nothing in this dream
i had to pay a hotel bill of over $30,000
This might give insight.. "Swords generally represent
courage, boldness, force, strength, authorirt, agression and
ambition. These cards indicate activity, progress and
accomplishment for good or bad"
they charged me for things which I did not even order
and also gave me a $90 credit which I did not "Earn"
Where was this hotel?
I don't know
except it was in a city
Why did you not wish to go to South America?
plus I had just gotten back from Hawaii
they charged me for things which I did not even order
and i had classes to attend to here\
i ended up going though
and decided to wake myself up from the dream before
i got there
Had to keep your feet on the ground
hmmmmm
what does all of this mean now
Dream suggesting that you should not be afraid to fly
away from your classes, but still fear keeps you from learning
whatever you should learn - or doing what you should do
* GrayMind shrugs.
hmmmm
I did enjoy myself in Hawaii though
....
that was where the hotel was it appears
i also visited a native culture there
on a remote island
Did you feel at home with the natives, or like a
visitor?
I did enjoy myself in Hawaii though
trying to remember
felt like a visitor at first
maybe after awhile, i felt like at home
Possible past life?
unknown
what do New Orleans, Hawaii, and South America have
in common
and the Sword and Initiation
all from lucid dreams
referring to this day
November 19, 1997
New Orleans I assiciate with voodoo & ghosts &
superstition
Similar to South America
Idea of natives...
Native rights
r u logging?
Initiatory rites
btw
I am logging
good :)
because a log of this will help when we're done
....
true
Initiatory rites may have a big role in this
Big times comming
beginning action
my grandmother being ill and the world being on the
verge of war are major markers that this stuff is meant to
happen
action sword
The past few weeks my sense of time has been very
peculiar
explain
.....
i have a decision to make btw
i have class in 20 mins
Sleeping habbits out of sync
Will you go to class - or lfy to South America?
hmmmm
in the dream I ended up leaving for south america
but woke myself up before getting there
Did you feel comfortable with your choice to not go?
here I have a fear of missing class .... i have not
missed class yet
...
yes and no
yes that i would not miss class
and be able to continue schoolwork
but no that I missed a grand opportunity
...
this makes it clear that I should miss class
as we are meant to talk
What do you want to do & become with your life?
the dream is very clear on that
GrayMind: ultimately work toghether with the
Universe
to help people
"open channel"
an open channel for the universe... to help people
.... explain how your currend degree is leading you there?
degree will be computer science and math
I ask myself this very question often
i will be going to graduate school for computer
science
my main goal at this point is to help the internet
along
ahah
and get better chat interfaces than irc
for example
get more like people together
I do see how that would help
have even a cyber community
what do you feel about what i should do about class
?
I feel this connection should be explored
Perhaps we both will be going through a rite of
initiation very soon
For times may call on us soon - though who's to say
with time
Of late - hours seem to pass in minutes - sometimes
minutes seem to last hours
the South America Dream = this meeting
I am not certain if this is a changes I am going
through or if I am subject outside energy paterns..
What is it about South America that is similar to
this meeting?
hmmmm
i don't know
When you think of South America - what images &
feelings come to oyu?
exotic
primal
(...native?...)
magical!
full of life
Hawaii gives similar images
ys
yes
Well - let us draw out the primal, magical, native
aspects of this meeting
hmmm
magical ..... it was meant to happen
and also all of the parallels
with the dream
the decision of whether to fly to south america
corresponds
with the choice whether to continue this convo
or go to class
Do you feel we need to come of with something that
will translate into an action in our lives? Or to a different
way of seeing things?
Well- it already has for you..
i don't know ....
let's see
what about the big hotel bill?
I have been missing all of my classes of late - as I
mentioned earlier, this path in my life has come to an end -
it will be a rather dramatic change from one to the next
hotel bill - karma?
yes
...
my karmic debt was just cleared two nights ago
through a major experience
the debt was huge
as i didn't know what i was doing
This life is an important one - karma is evening out
-
with certain things
....
I need to undergo ceremonial death
seems to be part of this whole thing too
oohhh boy
Are you ready for the death/rebirth?
it is something i must go through ....
yes
that would also correspond to the dreams
date of today
the New Orleans dream
I'm near that stage, but I feel a duality within me..
had a strong air of death to it
Part of me clings strongly to this life the satus quo
& all
hmmmm
the ceremonial death is to proceed almost
immediately i am sensing
This corresponds to a very odd event I went through
the other night
so I'd better hang around here rather than class
the word is that i will be able to go to my other
clasxses today
continue
I had a very spiritual encouner
Long story - but culminated in me laying out a tarot
spread unlike I've ever done
hmmmmm
A story told to me from me crossing over ..
Many actions I did that night - that I don't know
what led me to do so
I'm still trying to understand this layout of cards
before monday night i would not have turned to the
"open channel" approach
before then I was trying to CONTROL magic
now I am magic
That is a step in the right direction
This change corresponds to your paying a karmic debt?
i am fairly sure of it
* GrayMind nods.
The layout I have seems almost to be a calender - or
series of events
hmmmm
It begins with the fool, Page of Swords, 5 of Swords,
death ...
btw my decsiion point is here ....
and i choose to stay here
with the conversation
My, my - the swords!!
do you actually have a Sword?
*** cloudkid (merkaba@129.15.72.68) has joined #thewizardsway
* Watcher casts a spell of peace and illumination upon cloudkid!
graymind!
In this stage of the layout - where I am now, is in
the stage of the swords
=)
ok
continue
Corresponds to your dream?
Hello cloudkid
Perhaps I will tell you of the layout..