The Last Witness Debate Primer, Volume 1

Last updated - 4/12/98

ABORTION


Arguably the most divisive issue in the United States since slavery, abortion brings out extreme emotions from both sides of the issue. Let's look at the two sides: Pro-Choice and Pro-Life. Let's start with some familiar territory, that of Pro-Life. Until 1973, the Pro-Life viewpoint was the law of the land, so for the vast majority of time in the United States, abortion was legally wrong.
But let's look at why the Pro-Choice side stands for what it does. One of the most illuminating things I have ever heard was from a Pro-Choice rally that was aired on television (don't shield yourself from these things; you would be surprised how funny some of them are!). The woman at the podium stated that for too long, the Pro-Life side had misunderstood the stand of the Pro-Choice crowd; they are not for killing babies; they are fighting to protect the reproductive rights of women and then she went ahead and (good for her! She won a Witness Admiration Point) stated that for too long the Pro-Choice side misunderstood the Pro-L:ife side; they didn't want to control women's reproductive rights; they just wanted to stop the legalized killing of babies. And what do you say at this point? She has just cut through all the hype, all the clutter and arrived at the heart of the debate; mainly that both sides ignores the reason the others promote their ideology. We all do it, and as soon as we find out we are acting in this manner, we need to take a breather and figure out where we really are and what we are doing! But as you will find out, there is no such thing as a Pro-Choice person who agrees 100% with another Pro-Choice person any more than anyone on the Pro-Life side agreeing 100% with anyone else on the same side.

Even the Pro-Life camps hold differing views:

ZERO TOLERANCE:

That of holding to the belief that abortion is wrong in ALL cases and must never be legally allowed. (Witness TIP: It is very difficult to defend an absolute; when you use the word "all", then you are most likely asking for trouble.)While some Pro-Lifers might agree to this initially, with discussion on the issue, most of even these will support abortion for at least one reason or another, such as life of the mother, or if the baby will be born without a brain. This is a very small portion of the Pro-Life movement and not to criticize you if this is your belief, but if it is not your belief, don't let the other side attempt to label you as such. There are problems with defending this belief, namely, it places the life of the baby above the life of the mother.

RAPE OR INCEST:

The most highly used excuse to allow abortion, at no time in the history of the United States have rape or incest ever exceeded five percent of abortions. The main fault with this argument is that it starts out by saying that at conception a preborn human is protected under the Constitution but because his father is a rapist or incestor that his Constitutional rights are either revoked or ignored. Try that argument with any other situation. Example: You are the produce of a rape pregnancy; does that mean that you have no right to life? That is, if someone were to shoot you in the head fifty times, would they be violating the law? If you have no "right to life", then there would be no crime committed (at least not murder) and the Liberals would suggest that such a thing would be preposterous, but that is EXACTLY what they are proposing, unless they concede that simply because your father was a rapist, you still have a right to life.

Now let's get to why you are really reading this; to look at the other side, the Pro-Choice camps. Always refer to them by their chosen name even though you might not agree with the name; it only makes you look bad if you refuse to even acknowledge their self appointed title; not that you can't use their name against them at times, but since you wish to be referred to as Pro-Life, you should refer to them as Pro-Choice; believe me, it will help in the long run. The Pro-Choice camp has even more situational "what-ifs" than the Pro-Life side. I will list the arguments that have been given to me over the years as why abortion is justifiable:

I. Only "Human Life" is protected by the Constitution and before birth (or during pregnancy), until "x" is achieved, the fetus is not human life.


My response is that I don't know of a single scientist that would declare a preborn as anything other than alive (even at conception if they are cornered since at conception it is not dead and it is not non-life (like a rock for instance) and if it isn't human, of what species is it? Are they really arguing that there is a species change in the womb? Specifically when does this occur? Let's get real! And if you hear (and you will) that "no one can determine when life begins", simply ask them on what grounds then do they condone abortion; don't they know they could be killing human life especially since they don't seem to know? Science is supposed to err, if on any side, to that of caution. An archaeologist will, if in doubt, gingerly dust a worthless relic to that of a legitimate artifact; simply because he doesn't know whether what he has is worth any value.

A. "It is not alive because of viability concerns"


This is the most popular of all reasons to allow abortion. That the unborn baby cannot survive outside the mother's womb. This argument has a great deal of support among people who consider themselves Pro-Choice and haven't even thought about why. At face value, it even seems reasonable, but has some major problems, such as:

1. If viability is THE determining factor on whether something that genetically is considered human, then under those same standards, people in comas or unable to care for themselves would not be considered human and, again, should be able to be legally scalded to death, killed by tearing their limbs from their body or crushing their skull and sucking their brains out. Does anyone literally believe this? (TLDS) Of course not, so they have to attach another "reason" to allow abortion, or go to another tactic or start calling you names you insenstive man you! (And if you're a woman, they will say that you have not had your eyes opened or some other esoteric phrase that attempts to make all your comments worthless.

IOW: Viability is not a legitimate issue since it would also place people who are already BORN within the same "non-human" status of a pre-born. And if they are claiming viability, they must take the bad portions of this "logic" against what they perceive is the good.

2. Viability keeps getting moved to earlier and earlier periods in the pregnancy. What will happen when technology makes it possible to save a pregnancy from any stage, even immediately after conception? Viability goes out the window, but don't worry; they've got a million excuses.


B. AGE




C. QUALITY OF LIFE



This is the one that puzzles me the most, especially from Liberals who go out of their way to link themselves with the poor; this basically says that the baby, if allowed to be born MIGHT be abused, or might not have a good quality of living. So? Even IF that were so, who gives me, you or anyone else the ability to kill someone because they don't live up to your standard of what "quality of life" is? Can we all thank God that someone with the level of wealth of Donald Trump or Bill Gates doesn't decide that? We'd all be without Constitutional protection of life.


D. LOCATION, LOCATION, LOCATION


Not to try to oversimply it, but the abortion debate comes down to location. If the preborn is located in a different location (outside the womb) ALL debate comes to an end whether it is protected by law or not.

For more information on abortion and the Conservative standpoint (this is not just a Christian issue as much as they would love to make it because then they could ignore the issue itself and then attack you because Catholics at one time were running governments or whatever they wish to push off on you.)



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