February 15 2003 

Greetings unto Mistress Elena de Vexin, Dragon; THL Paul Wickenden of Thanet, Rouge Scarpe; and the commenting members of the Midrealm College of Heralds; from Lady Angharad Rhos Tewdwr of Pembroke, Escutcheon. 

 

Here are the January 2003 submissions for your consideration and commentary. All submissions will allow major and minor changes unless otherwise noted. All commentary should be sent to the Rouge Scarpe Herald, THL Paul Wickenden of Thanet, early enough to arrive by March 25, 2003, with copies to Dragon and me.  

1) Alastair mac Michel. (M) New Name and Device. Vert, a saltire between three scorpions Or.

(Cúil Choluim)

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[Alastair]~Withycombe, E.G. “Oxford Dictionary of Christian Names” p.13

[mac Michel]~ found in “A Simple Guide to Constructing 12^th Century Scottish Gaelic Names” by Sharon L. Kossa online at http://www.MedievalScotland.org/scotnames/simplescotgaelicnames12.shtml . [Michel] is spelled [Míchél] in the reference.

Client will NOT accept MAJOR changes, cares most about lthe language/culture and wishes a name authentic to 12^th-14^th century Scots Gaelic meaning ‘Alexander son of Michael’. 

 

2) Caterine le Marinier. (F) Name and Device Resubmission. Per chevron argent and sable, two daggers in chevron and a lymphad under full sail counterchanged.

(Lansing, MI)

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[Caterine]~Withycombe 3^rd Ed. p. 186 “K”- Catherine

[Marinier] Reaney & Wilson Revised Ed. p. 298 “Marker”.

Client cares most about meaning. Client’s previous name submission [Beathag Corwyna the Corsair] returned by Rouge Scarpe (12/02) for multiple languages and an inability to document [Corwyna]. The client’s device returned same letter because the name was returned. 

3) Hélène Gabrielle du Lac. (F) New Badge. (Fieldless), in cross a spoon and a key argent.

(Chicago, IL)

{Name reg: 01/82}

4) Hélène Gabrielle du Lac. (F) New Badge. (Fieldless),a spoon palewise overall a saltiere of four threaded needles points to center argent.

(Chicago, IL)

{Name reg: 01/82} 

5) Hélène Gabrielle du Lac. (F) New Badge. (Fieldless),a spoon palewise argent.

(Chicago, IL)

{Name reg: 01/82} 

6) Ingrede Haustmyrkr Hrossbjarnardóttir. (F) New Device . Azure, a shoveller wings elevated and addorsed argent, billed and membered Or.

(Oak Park, IL)

{Name reg: 03/93}

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[Esct. Comment: A shoveller is a kind of duck, perhaps the blazon should read duck…] 

7) Lancelot of Windhaven. (M) New Badge. (Fieldless), an ermine spot sable.

(Ravenslake)

{Name reg: 01/01}

[Esct Comment: "It is Lord Laurel's considered opinion that an ermine spot should be considered a single charge, and so this does not fall under the ban on fieldless charges consisting of disconnected charges." Precedents of Da’ud (2^nd) LoAR 8/91 p.13.] 

8) Milisandia verch Thomas. (F) New Name and Device. Quarterly azure and argent, a dragon passant gules.

(Cúil Choluim)

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Names found in “A Simple guide to Constructing 13^th Century Welsh Names” by Heather Rose Jones (Tangwystl verch Morgant Glasvryn) at http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/tangwystyl/welsh13.html

Client will NOT accept MAJOR changes. She wishes a name authentic for 12^th to 14^th century Wales and wishes the meaning “Millicent daughter of Thomas”. 

[Esct. Comment: Possible conflict with the flag of Wales: Per fess argent and vert, a dragon passant gules. ]

9) Shih Tan Po. (M) New Name and Device. Sable, a wheel enflamed Or in chief two natural tigers couchant respectant proper.

(Springfield, IL)  

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Names found in “In Search of Your Asian Roots: Genealogical Research on Chinese Surnames” by Sheau-yueh J. Chao pp.160,170, 149 Also various searches at the website http://www.Chineseroots.com

[Shih³] (client provided the Chinese characters for these names)~ first used as a surname during the reign of Huang-Ti (c.259-c.210 BC).

[T’an²]~as a surname originated in Chou dynasty (1050-256 BC).

[Po²]~also from the Chou dynasty. 

Client will NOT accept MAJOR changes. He cares most about having a Mandarin Chinese name.  

[Esct. comment: This has proven to be a very difficult name submission to summarize effectively or even adequately without better knowledge of Chinese. The client provided photocopies of his searches with the Chineseroots.com search engine—unfortunately I don’t have Chinese scripts installed (nor can I read Chinese)on my computer so I was unable to verify these. Though his names are very old in origin, were they used continuously and/or unaltered through our period? Also, all three names are referred to as surnames. Are three surnames usual or can a surname serve as a given name? ]

In Service to the Dream,

Angharad Rhos Tewdwr of Pembroke 

In Service to the Dream,

Angharad Rhos Tewdwr of Pembroke, OW 

Anne Krone
3846 S Wayne Dr.
La Porte IN 46350
ladyfiresilk@yahoo.com

Dragon:

Rouge Scarpe:

Paul Wickenden of Thanet
Paul Goldschmidt
3071 Cimarron Trail
Madison WI 53719
goldschp@mailbag.com

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