Start all over again. Don't hang to my words, my sentences, my expressions of anger.

Write me a small essay, say about ten pages.

Make it as much independent, your words only, not plagiarism. No outside help. Not a single quotation from well known sources, authors, commentators, interpreters, professors, gurus, teachers, neighbors, mother, your mother, friends, accomplices, conspirators, connivers, RSS deluded dunces, Mafia handlers, rascals, rogues and ruffians, jingoistic dingo dogs, in this case you are exempted.

Throw in all that is in between book covers, TV guide is not to be considered as a book, neither "Gita."

I shall pay you, whatever is your name, one hundred American dollars, provided I am happy over your essay and all my doubts of Hindu religion are vanished just as soon as I finish my first reading.

Do it bubba. Life is short and your sick brain is asking, nay, crying for some serious help. Just do it.

Sid

Ganesh ganipanchu6925@my-deja.com wrote in message news:85dgf6$nmo$1@nnrp1.deja.com...

Hi.

I think most of what you've written is wrong. I also think you are intentionally misleading since you sometimes show some correct knowledge of facts.

Sid:

The so called Dalits and Tribal people were never part of Hindu religion.

Ganesh:

Don't know about tribal people, but many of the Dalits certainly *are* part of the "Hindu religion".

Sid:

They have their millions ways of understanding tribal religious, magical, totemic, ancestral worshipping, Devil worshipping ways.

Ganesh:

And many of them also worship Hindu gods (including the "Lingum".).

Sid:

It is a fact that later periods in the history, Brahmins stole god concepts from these people or the priests of these deities were formally accepted into Aryan priestly profession, albeit, with some brainwashing, training in the art and the science of flim flamming at Kashi.

Ganesh:

If at all true (references?) the word steal" should probably be replaced by "adopt", "embrace" or "borrow", which are *not* euphemisms.

Sid:

Lord Venkatesh, Lord Ayyappa, Lord Khandoba, Lord Vithoba, Kali, Durga, Shiva, Krishna, and bunch of major gods are not now or ever were Aryan gods, period.

Ganesh:

"are not now or ever were Aryan gods"? This is pure nonsense. Really, who are the Aryans and who are their gods?

Taking the Vedas (which include the Upanishads), the Epics (Ramayana and importantly Mahabharata), the Puranas as the "Aryan" scriptures, Rudra-Shiva is one of the major Deities worshipped. So is Krishna.

Sid:

This stealing and robbing of native beliefs is going on, even as we speak. Sai Baba of Shirdi was always a Muslim. Lived all his life in a mosque. Fine fella, god bless his soul. Now, Brahmins have made him into a genuine Hindu god, statue, stature, scriptures, songs, dance and all that Brahmin flim flam, can you believe it?

Ganesh:

Why not?

If some brahmins worship Sai Baba as God, it is "stealing"? What sort of bullshit is this? Anyway, Sai Baba is hardly accepted as God by the orthodox brahmin tradition.

Sid:

The most egalitarian, the most simple, the most sexless form of Hindu worship, where women, for the first time were allowed to officiate, prominently in the small prayer and ritual "Satyanarayana," has been stolen by these bastard Brahmins. It was initiated and propagated by one Sufi saint, fakir like Sai Baba of Shirdi to make worship of god simple, pleasant and common to all without usual Brahmin interference. His name, perhaps like Sai Baba, an ascribed, assumed name was "Saccha Pir." Brahmins translated into "Satya "saccha" "Pir=Narayana." These mother fluffing Brahmins are common thieves.

Where did you pull this one from? (any references?).

Regards,

Ganesh.

p.s. I guess now you'll be including me when you keep abusing the "hindu hooligans", since that's what you do when anyone disagrees with your nonsense.

Atal Creams RSS Rats' Asses
By Sid Harth
elcid
Monday, January 10, 2000 8:00 PM

Atal Behari Vajpayee, my good brother, who hapens to be the captain of a sinking, make it stinking, sinking ship called India, has finally decided to hold the wheel, not the wheel of fortune, no siry Bob, the wheel that may turn the RSS rats infesting the ship overboard. Hallelujah! Sid May Allah be praised! Holy Hindu Cow! What Now? Put Rajju Bhaiya, "the Mafia man" in the dungeon, go on, brother Atal, please, pretty please, I ain't gonna live forever to see the glory of god if you don't. I do screw RSS day in and day out but has no statutory effect on that most heinous Hindu, Brahmin Mafia. Somehow or other it survives. That may not be the case with my dear brother, Atal, the man is wild, let me assure you in even suggesting that RSS' days of pulling the strings are over. Not that they shall not see RSS boys shitting, spitting, puking, poking, stroking, striking, stiffing, stuffing, stopping, spotting, pouting and trying to put their foot in the mouth over this classic case of bastard son, BJP that is shoving deranged dad aside and taking over the realm. Let us admit that governing is lot more than brainwashing operation. It takes lot more guts and gumption not mere assumptions that RSS hoodlums base their future activities upon. A free society, I just bit my tongue as I am not sure if calling Indian society as "free" makes it in fact free, needs innovation, renovation, renewal, regeneration not RSS regression, aggression and ass licking of the vested Hindu interests, your Patel motelwallahs kind of international terrorism sponsors and supporters of vagabonds of vengeful, vigilante outfits such as VHP, needs heroes like Atal. If I were to describe my joy I would say that somebody had to do it and Atal bubba may not bring this transformation of Indian malaise to Indian majesty but he cannot be stopped, under no conditions, no intimidation, no threats of Rama temple nonsense, subversion from the RSS camp boys and girls, but failing his plan to put RSS boys in their place is an auspicious beginning. Some other brave soul may take the clue and ram the Rama rambos and shove them, also shove their royal asses where sun don't shine. Thanks to the Times of India dated January 11, 2000. http://www.timesofindia.com/110100/11indi2.htm Sid Harth..."There is no crime in hanging the bigots, bozos and brainwashed Brahmin bubbas whose impertinence is getting out of hand, at least let them hang high and dry over their barbed wire feces fascist fence like Atal is doing to Rajju bubba brigade." Sucheta Dalal, my Main Woman By Sid Harth elcid Monday, January 10, 2000 9:25 PM Sucheta Dalal is just one small voice, loud but not loud enough to knock some sense in the saffron simians doing their best to make everybody else responsible for their malaise. May there be more Suchetas, God! that sewer of a country, India need all of them. Sid Go girl, go on. Spread your wings and knock some holy Hindu fat cows, bulls, damned donkeys, goats in their political boats munching, crunching on the moola. It takes extreme moral courage, most dudes with their dildos, maybe, their sperm delivery devices engorged, so also their desire to dupe, swoop, sweep, swap, snap some illegal, maybe, immoral moola from wherever they can lay their filthy hands on don't have it. Sucheta gives a damn if they do or they don't. She blasts them like clay pigeon skits. Shatters them to pieces. What is Sucheta showing is what I show, the reality. Corruption is so deeply entrenched in the idol worshipping pagans of India that pandering to their lobby, make it flabby lobby becomes almost a prerequisite for any political solution. Congress did it. Even in the days of unbridled Nehruvian socialism, big money was equated with getting elected and stay elected. In these days of local warlords, warlocks, witches and bitches black money comes a long way from being looked down. Big money is respectable, as long as these scavengers pay rich tributes to guys and guys like Bal Thackeray and J. Jayalaitha. The malarkey, the malaise of corruption reaches from corner con man collecting his protection "hafta," tithe from little old ladies to big time bosses of government departments. If one assumes that a learned lady like Sucheta finds it ugly, obnoxious and downright animalistic the way business as usual accepts the corrupt practices there must be what every jingoistic dingo dog denies thru their lying teeth, the monster exists and is taken care of as a holy cow. Thanks to the Rediff dated January 11, 2000. http://www.rediff.com/money/2000/jan/10dalal.htm http://www.rediff.com/money/dalal.htm Sid Harth..."Whereas dingbats like Ahmed Diwan is shoveling some fresh anti Muslim shit, Sucheta Dalal is trying to shove the real shit for the good of the country." © 2000 Sid Harth Back to the top "If not now, when? If not me who?"