From jamesjs@unixg.ubc.ca Wed Sep 09 00:44:05 1998
Newsgroups: alt.meditation.shabda
Subject: Become His Channel
From: jamesjs@unixg.ubc.ca (James Shannon)
Date: 9 Sep 1998 07:44:05 GMT


          
          
          

                           BECOME HIS CHANNEL
                         
                                   by
                             
                          Sant Kirpal Singh Ji
                          
                  
                     This Q & A session was given on
                     Sept. 9, 1970, at Sawan Ashram,
                     in Delhi, India.

                      (from "The Light of Kirpal.")
          




[Question]: A number of the Masters who preceded you - Swamiji, Babaji
and your own Master Sawan Singh all left writing behind them or reports
or records. How accurate and how pure are those records today?
  
[Master]: Truly speaking, you see, this (successorship) is not a thing 
to be passed on through papers. It is not like lands or other things 
which are passed on through papers. It is sometimes passed on through 
the eyes. So Masters never do that (pass successorship through papers). 
They've never done it.
  
[Q]: Well, I mean the writing they left behind. How accurate is it?
  
[M]: Why should it tax us?
  
[Q]: Sar Bachan, for example, and some of the other books.
  
[M]: These books are there, of course, there are two parts of Sar 
Bachan. One is a collection of poems. One is in prose. Some of the poetry 
is by Swamiji Himself. And the other part is from Rai Saligram. Both are
combined together and are known as Sar Bachan. The prose portion is not 
the direct statement of Swamiji but of somebody who attended Satsang and 
was detailed to convey what was spoken there, a third person conveying the 
talks given by Swamiji to Rai Saligram. So the prose part is that.

[Q]: Was Rai Saligram a Saint?
  
[M]: Yes, surely, he was very advanced. There were three disciples of
Swamiji. One was Baba Jaimal Singh who was very much advanced in 
meditation. He went to the highest. Rai Saligram was a very loving and 
devoted disciple. And there was one sadhu whose name was Garib Das; he 
initiated only those who were sadhus. Rai Saligram remained at Agra along 
with Swamiji's wife and Baba Jaimal Singh was detailed to come to the 
Punjab and continue Swamiji's work. Therefore this line was continuing 
through Baba Jaimal Singh, Baba Sawan Singh and still continues. Now 
Swamiji is passed on ... 

   With due deference the only criterion is what you get. If a man gets 
that much it is all creditable; it is for the people to see not for 
anyone else to judge. With due deference they were the three prominent 
disciples of Swamiji. So now generally these things are passed on through 
eyes; not through papers. It is not any land or house or anything like 
that to be passed on. Of course, these things (land, houses) are passed 
on through papers, but this is a gift of the soul through the soul.
 
   The man is trained all through life to be prepared. Everything is in 
the make. One day doesn't make a man a Saint. All through life he's being
made. Then there comes a time when it is passed on. "Well, all right,
continue on."
 
[Q]: There's not too much point reading what they've left behind, then?
 
[M]: Sometimes it proves not useful, I would say. I have regard for
everybody. It is up to people to judge whether they can get anything. 
If they get the same thing, there can be no dispute between the givers.
Maybe there are one hundred givers, ten givers, five givers. It's a
question of when a man receives, then there's trouble. So I have love
for all. Those who are giving, all right, well and good. I have love for
them. Even though they don't give anything, it is for the people to
decide, "Why should I bother about them?" I have respect for all.
  
[Q]: To change the subject, someone was asking a little bit earlier 
today what exactly you meant when you referred in an earlier talk to 
"two souls in one body. " (on September 8th)
 
[M]: Two souls joined together in matrimony should feel one in two
bodies. That's all I meant. I never meant any obsession, you see.
Marriage is taking a companion in life; they should have one thought,
one word, one ideal to follow. They should not be clashing. They
should be receptive to each other. So that is what I meant, one soul
working in two bodies. It is God who unites. One is born somewhere.
The other is born somewhere else. It is the flowing pen of God which
unites them. When God has united them they should work together.
"Whom God unites, let no earthly power disunite." So they should
work as one soul in two bodies. Live an ideal life and be of service 
to others also. An animal can be of service to itself but man is man 
who is of service to others as well as to himself.
  
[Q]: Your exact quote then was, "One soul in two bodies, " and not,
"two souls in one body?"
 
[M]: No, no, not that. That becomes an obsession. Not that. Those whom
God has united, should remain together through weal or woe, both
make an effort to know God. One duty may be of begetting children.
One duty. Not all. Anyhow, it is not a machine of enjoyment. It's a
sacred duty. It is a sacrament.
  
[Q]: Is this a matter of soul mates, really? Half a soul uniting to the 
other true half soul?
  
[M]: You see, according to give and take, reactions of the past, men 
are brought together to finish up their give and take. Others are brought
together as sons and daughters and so on. This is just to wind up the
whole give and take. That's all.
  
[Q]: This is just a phrase then, really?
  
[M]: Yes, a phrase just to let them know they are to work together, not
disunite. I think you will have better love this way than the other way,
you see. God has united you. What is marriage? Two souls born in 
different places are brought together. They don't know each other, never
dreamt of it, but they come together and become united. From this day
onward their company is sacred so that there will be no corruption.
Because God has united them they will have more love for each other.
Try to adjust. They must be of use to others as well as to themselves.
Man is one who is of use to others also. The main ideal before us is to
know God while in the man body.
 
[Q]: Does it often follow that people who are married in this life have
been married in previous lives?
  
[M]: Maybe, but may not be. Reincarnation is there, you see. Definitely.
Some say it is not. I know suchlike people who do remember their past
birth. They gave some thing of their past lives which has been verified.
 
[Q]: But you can see it all from the top of the third plane?
 
[M]: Yes, not before. If you knew who is who now, I'm afraid you
wouldn't like to see his face or else you'll be more attached. The 
attachment already brought us down here. So it's better not to know, and
clear our way back to God, that's all.
 
[Q]: Do we meet people from previous lives? If we meet them, do we meet
them again? Is it a pattern that we keep on meeting the same people all
the time?
  
[M]: Not necessarily. Some we meet. We have to finish our give and take
in some other garb. You see? Sometimes you say you don't want to pay
any man anything, still he forces you: you have to pay whether you
wish it or not. Sometimes you want to help somebody but with all your
goodness you try, but you cannot help him. Sometimes you love somebody, 
but with all the good you do, he doesn't love you. So these are due to 
the reactions of the past.
  
[Q]: Where is the decision made as to what role we will play in a given
life? On the astral level or does the Master make it from Sach Khand?
  
[M]: The only thing, when a man and son are united - this union cames 
as a result of the past. When they are brought together we should be 
very devoted because God has united them with you. We have been united
by the decree of Ciod, as the reactions of our past. Wind up all 
reaction.  So, in both of them the idea before them is to know God. 
Pay off all previous seeds and don't sow new seeds to sprout forth. That 
you do only when you become a conscious co-worker of the divine plan.
Otherwise, every man feels he is the doer. When you are the doer then
whatever you do will react. As you sow, so shall you reap. So, if you
have become conscious co-worker of the divine plan,  there'll be
nobody to reap, you see.
 
[Q]: Madame Blavatsky used to have this phrase, "The lords of Karma. "
Is that a valid phrase?
 
[M]: "Lords of Karma" means Negative Power. You see, that action-
reaction is after all controlled by some power. As you sow, naturally 
that bears forth fruit. So we should be very cautious not to sow fresh 
seeds, new seeds, because we have to bear the reactions.
  
[Q]: What if in spite of everything we do, we do sow some fresh seeds?
  
[M]: Yes, that you cannot differentiate now.
  
[Q]: That means we have to come back in another life?
  
[M]: Now, as I have said, we do not know what is the reaction of the 
past or what fresh deeds we are doing. We do not know these things 
unless we come to the third plane. Now, what to do? Know it is God Who 
has united, and pay off sweetly. Adjust yourself. Don't think evil of
others. That's sowing the seed. In thinking evil of others - even in
thought, that is sowing a seed. To tell lies, just to say something and
mean something else, these are sowing seeds. So you should have love
for God and love for all humanity. In that way you won't have any
fresh seeds. If anything comes up that will be as a reaction of the 
past, you are helpless, you will have to do it. But you do not know. 
Even if you sow fresh seeds, new seeds, and you become a conscious 
co-worker of the divine plan, they won't react. They will nullify 
because the doer won't be there.
  
[Q]: Suppose we don't get to that exalted state of becoming a 
conscious co-worker of the Divine Plan and we do have an evil thought 
about somebody - in a future life, how would we have to pay that back? 
By them thinking evilly of us or doing an evil action toward us?
 
[M}: If a man becomes a conscious co-worker of the Divine Plan, he 
never thinks evil of others. When he sees He is working, how can he 
think evil? He sees all are gods, micro-gods. That's understanding. When 
you get the right understanding, you see that all mankind is one, all are
soul - conscious entities in the same controlling power. So right 
understanding will result in right thoughts; right thoughts will result 
in right speech and right speech will result in right action. You cannot 
do otherwise. So it is always better to be guided by the Master. He will 
say, "All right, adjust yourself. Cooperate to the best you can and leave 
the rest to God." If you get His guidance, it will help. Sometimes it 
will help. Surrender: The whole thing lies right there and that's very 
difficult. To surrender completely is very difficult. It is better to do 
your best and leave the rest to God. If you have the right understanding 
then naturally everything will fall off and won't be binding. The "Wheel 
of Life" explains in more detail.
  
[Q]: Yes, I've read it, but I can stand reading it again, I know.
  
[M]: Digest it more, that's all. Master's teachings are sometimes given
very straight; they don't mind who's who. People say, "Oh Master,
what is the good of our coming to you if we have to go round on the
wheel of actions?" They say if you go to a lion and are afraid of
jackals, what's the good of it? It's the work of the Master to wind up 
in His own way. Any reactions which cannot be set aside are made to 
happen. Even little thoughts can be adjusted and those are also finished
with. But the ultimate goal is to make man conscious of the Divine Plan. 
An example is given: There are loads and loads of wood, heaps of wood. 
If you put a little spark of fire to them, all will be reduced to ashes. 
Similarly, you've committed an unlimited number of heinous crimes in past 
lives; if you have a spark of light from a Sadhu that will burn away. 
That means you become a conscious co-worker. This is something you start 
to develop. That's not the end-all. You see the Light. Then naturally you 
will have the right understanding. You'll feel bouyant to sing in an 
inspired way. As a man develops he feels that way. He becomes a 
mouthpiece. So learned and unlearned both are sinful. Even good actions 
are binding. Chains may be of iron or gold. That makes no difference. 
They are all binding. So the only way to become a conscious co-worker 
of the Divine Plan is to know that He's doing it, you are not. You will 
have to become a mouthpiece of God. Masters speak as inspired by God. 
And we all have to become that. There's nothing to be afraid of. Every 
king wants his son to be a king, not a minister. Every Saint wants His 
man coming up to be a saint. That is why I tell you, you are to become 
ambassadors. Haven't I done my part so far? It is you people who have 
to carry on further. You are the budding hopes of the coming generations, 
I would say.
  
[Q]: You mentioned last night that at initiation as is just about always 
the case, approximately one third or a little bit more of the initiates 
saw the Master within. Does that mean at that moment when they did that 
they became conscious co-workers of God and will always be regarded as
such?
  
[M]: That experience is something to show that that Power is within you
always watching your every action, whether you see it or not. Then you
have to develop. Talk to Him consciously. And that Power talks within, 
Master does talk. Yesterday at initiation I asked if Master talked to 
anybody - "yes," one person told me.
 
   That was only to show that there is something. People don't believe
there is anything inside. They say, "It is all dark; what is it, it is 
all blurred, what is in there?" Thank God, people are having proof of 
this Power. You cannot prove spirituality. Go anywhere, the other gurus
simply say, "Go on doing this, go on doing this, go on doing that,
you'll have it." But a bird in hand is better than two in the bush. So
Master gives you something to prove that there is something inside and
you testify yourself that you've seen. When you have seen, then there's
no evidence required from anybody else. Everybody has his own 
development but everybody gets something, some conviction that you see 
for yourself. So that's the biggest criterion. Don't believe even in
the words of the Master unless you are convinced yourself. You do see.
Maybe little or more. That is to be developed.
  
[Q]: Well, if you don't believe in the words of the Master before you 
have an experience, you have a lot of trouble having the experience, 
don't you?
  
[M]: I tell you, no. Books are there. A learned and unlearned man both
have to do the same thing. An unlearned man does not require any
rules or any evidences from the past Masters, this and that - he doesn't
care. The learned man would like to know whether it is true, whether
anybody else also bears testimony to it; he is taught very cautiously.
There is a building with hundreds of stairs to reach up to the top. 
There are two men; one is learned, the other is unlearned. They are 
told, "All right, you go up to the roof, to the top of the roof and 
you'll see the sun rising." The unlearned starts going up. And the other 
one says, "How many steps are there? My foot might slip down. What will 
be the proof that I will be saved?" Then he goes up ten steps and says, 
"Oh, there's no light, how do you know there will be light?" You see? As
you near the top, you have some light. When you go up, you'll see.
That's all. It's something like that. Two men, one learned and the other
unlearned, both went to a Master. To the unlearned man He said, "All
right, I'll charge you a single fee." The learned man came up, "I think
everything should be free." But the Master said, "I'll charge you a
double fee." Why? "Because I first have to make you unlearned and
then you can start. I will have to do this by explaining this and that
thing." One lady came to me: "I don't want any theory, give me 
experience." She got an experience.
  
   Children see Light. They don't want any theories or any discussions
or what one Master said or what the other said. They simply sit and see
Light. That's a boost given by a Master. That's the only criterion of
judging whether a Man really has something to give. What He has to give 
may not be full but it is at least something. It is a start when you
rise above body consciousness. Where all world philosophies end, there 
the religion starts. "Re" means back, "legio" to bind. People have 
forgotten, you see. They're giving their whole time to singing, lighting 
candles, this and that thing. That's all right. That's preparation of 
the ground: good actions. But you are the doer. First see and then say. 
The difference between a Saint and other men is that He sees and then 
says. The other men do not see; they simply read and say. So any one 
can say, "God is Light; God is all Light." But one who sees it says,
"God is all Light," because he has seen He is all Light. A man who is
blind from birth has never seen the sun. Similarly a man who has read
in a book, "God is Light," saying "God is Light" is just like a blind
man saying he has seen the sun. All outer performances of what you do
are only to help you to further prepare the ground. There is reaction
there, good reaction but there is no emancipation unless you become
an initiate of a Saint and the criterion of a Saint is that he must 
give something to start with. A man gives a very good lecture on 
business lines, very wonderful, very convincing, very helpful, but if 
the men to whom he is talking have no money, what will he do? Talk to 
him, give him some capital to start with. So he must be able to give 
something. Is there any proof? Where is the proof? You will find there 
are hundreds of so-called gurus. Most of them advanced by hypnotizing, 
by mesmerizing, or by radiation. They're also very few. Other gurus 
simply say, "Go on and do this, you'll have more. Be rest assured your 
salvation is definite." This won't do. This is on credit, you see, you 
must have cash.
  
[Q]: Do those who take drugs such as LSD and have certain experiences,
are they valid experiences?
  
[M]: No, no. They are hallucinations. Any thought reverberating, that
brings forth a hundred times more, mind that. Why do we stop such 
intoxication, any intoxication; because we are conscious beings. 
Anything that makes the subconscious a little morbid we are not to use.
That results in the death of soul. You follow me?
  
[Q]: Drugs result in the death of the soul?
  
[M]: The death of the soul, yes. Consciousness is lessened and 
naturally they have to go on to the lower planes. That is what all this 
intoxication starts. 

[Q]: What about taking LSD then? 

[M]: It is still more death of the soul.
  
[Q]: There's a great deal of talk that LSD is the foundation or a basis 
of a religion of the future or at least an improvement on the kind of 
religion that is now existent.
  
[M]: No, no, no. It is deterioration. Definitely going down to 
beastlihood. Their consciousness is marred. Animals are also conscious. 
Even a snake is conscious but they have a different degree of 
consciousness. Man's consciousness is very evolved. But if you use 
suchlike things your consciousness is affected. If you are intoxicated 
by such means your consciousness is affected, and you will have to go to
the lower planes.
 
[Q]: Do those who come to you from a background of drug experience
start then with a very definite handicap?
  
[M]: Surely, sometimes at initiation they are given a double sitting. 
They are made to sit twice. Hitherto, men were prepared for initiation: 
those who came to the Master had to live with Him for months. When they
were ready, only then they were given something. Now the times have
changed. Who can live with the Master for months and months? So some 
things are given all at once at the start. Then it should be maintained 
by self-introspection. It is wonderful, of course, how we can have this 
on the very first day. All do get something. Some more, others less, 
that's another thing; but they do get it. It's a special gift of God. 
In the Iron Age, the worst of times, still God's grace is more, so that 
many may be saved.
  
[Q]: Of course, it's obvious that when You initiate them here that
everybody is getting an experience. I mean, you can see it, you can
count it, but I don't know if that is necessarily as obvious when Your
assistants do the initiating elsewhere.
  
[M]: I tell you, if the group leaders use their own ego, then they don't 
succeed. But if they become a mere channel, all get It. I receive 
initiation reports. Most of them get something, some do not get. I tell 
the group leaders to give them a second sitting, sometime when they're 
fresh and buoyant. Sometimes they're hurrying, they come running in and
are made to sit. How can they have an experience? The initiation should 
be done when they're calm and quiet and when he who is just the means, 
becomes a channel and is not exerting. So these things stand in the way. 
In my time when my Master once came to Lahore where I used to live, He 
initiated some people there. Then He told me, "All right, I have sown 
the seeds; you give them water. You water them." I told Him, "Master, 
I'm a mere pipe. The water that you'll send, I'll give them." You see? 
The other pipes are only there so that the water you send runs through 
them. Otherwise they are hurt. See the goal - not the personality. I 
say, "All right, you can give them a sitting." It doesn't mean that he's 
giving the initiation. The more of a channel he becomes, the more 
experience they get. Sometimes they are not ready or they are tired or 
they are hurried up, or the man does not surrender to the Master Power 
within. That sometimes stands in the way. Some do get very wonderful 
experiences. Of course, here and there we find some that do not see. 
Then I tell them, "Give them a second sitting." Sometimes there's some 
inaccuracy in their doing the practices, sometimes the instructions are 
given hurriedly, sometimes the channel is just feeling that he's the 
boss. Then the trouble arises.

[Q]: Would you recommend then before a person is initiated he undergo
some kind of preparation for that initiation; I mean several hours of
meditation or something of that nature?
  
[M]: You see, concentration can be done only when you have something
to stand upon in an effective way. When you close your eyes and if you
have nothing to see, to stand on, you've got the darkness before you.
There you'll stay like a child shut in a dark room with the door closed;
he'll break the door, he'll cry. But if he sees something that's 
attractive and enchanting, then he'll not cry. So there must be 
something to stand on. Most of the, excuse me for saying this, the 
so-called masters say, "All right, visualize my face." But I never 
recommend, never tell anybody that. Why? If you visualize anybody, God 
forbid if he is not perfect, then you'll become what he is. It's very 
dangerous. It is very dangerous. God is one who comes of Himself. That 
figure that appears of itself in the calm and quiet silence in the 
heart, that is from God. You are not to visualize. I never tell people 
to visualize. They should pray and sit. That's another thing. If 
somebody is of a higher level than you are and you visualize him, he 
won't come in fully. Some days you'll see his turban, some days his 
hand. Then you'll say, "I saw him there." The mind will be running. 
Those who are of your level or those who are below you, you'll just 
think and you see their face. So most of the people nowadays - I've 
come in touch with all these heads of religions - all tell to 
visualize a form. They give you a photo. Photos are only for remembrance 
just like a friend. What comes of itself within and manifests, that is 
true. That's the difference. That is why my way is different. Most do 
see something. But they stay, then leave. Naturally if they don't stay 
they don't get more. You can sit down on any chair, as a child, and 
you'll see His Face.
  
   So light is the only thing to stand on. What light? Not physical 
light but the inner Light. That is the God-into-expression Power. Some 
people light the candle and visualize the candlelight. Think of the cow 
and the cow will become a sister, is it not? "I think of the Master, all 
right; he's got a very good face, very good turban; He is a very gentle 
man; very elegant; He's a very good actor." But what He is, you see, can 
be tested only by Initiation. There's a very vast difference, you see. 
Don't go by propaganda. Propaganda is made when a man fears or is 
incompetent. Don't go to such a person. I allow everybody to freely go.
Go if you can get something better. Then all right. Take me with you.
I'll be thankful to you.

[Q]: Did anybody ever volunteer to take you with them to do something
better?
 
[M]: Not so far. Not so far. If he is better, I will go. I see by the 
parallel study of religions, scriptures, as well as by sitting at my 
Master's feet - different Masters, seemingly advanced, sat at my own  
Master's feet - that which I have seen is true and is supported by all 
Masters who came in the past. Why should I doubt it? I tell them only 
to save them from going astray. Some people come and say, "Oh, I have 
found another; highest thing." The result is that some people do go 
and they lose what they have already got. They don't get anything 
further. When such people return, they are reduced. It happens. I've 
seen men who were initiated, who got something and who were progressing.
Someone said, "Oh, there's a higher place. Let's go there." They go
there. They lose that thing and further they do not get anything new. 
If they come back to their senses, they come back. They are always
welcome. Even the prodigal son is accepted, you see.
  
[Q]: Occasionally there is a disciple, is there not, who feels that he 
has climbed to higher areas and sets himself up as a teacher but 
actually is lost in the astral?
  
[M]: Surely, you see, nobody can boast that he knows everything. Even 
if we know everything - all creation - what is it? It is one ray of 
thought. Is it not? Man cannot know everything. At least that ray which 
is manifest somewhere can give you contact with the ray within you, 
that's all. No Master ever said, "I am the Doer." He said, "God, the 
Father, works through me." When he sees some higher power working, how
can he say, "I am the worker, I am the Guru, I am the Master?" Those
who say that, they are not the Master. They have advanced a little, 
they just try to hypnotize their followers. His followers are stuck and 
his own progress is retarded. He loses. It is a very dangerous way.
 
[Q]: Some of your initiates who have sought to use such powers have had
the powers taken away from them, haven't they?
 
[M]: They retard their progress. You see, once something is given at 
the feet of the Master, He never takes it back. Sometimes He keeps
something in reserve. What He has given, He does not take back. When 
it's a spiritual thing, why should you again test it? He gives, but
further progress is stopped and what little he has had is lost, and he
repents inside. He cannot tell anybody what his fate is. Such like 
people who are initiating there, I see their diaries and I'd be very 
ashamed. They become bosses. They become generals and that is the 
difficulty. If you take them as the be-all and end-all, naturally their 
progress is stopped and the initiates' progress is also doomed. If you 
have got a little pond of water, how long will it last? Have contact 
with somewhere where there is a perennial source: hundreds of men 
drinking it won't exhaust it.
  
[Q]: But, of course, you have background with the Indian army. If you
see generals who are misusing powers of the commander-in-chief, why
not remove them and put in other generals?
  
[M]: I tell you one thing. This question has been put to me many times.
We are to carry on with these imperfect people. We have not to ask if
they have been matriculated or graduated. You can carry on with others 
because they're made channels, only to carry on the work. But their 
progress is retarded. Go and ask them. See their diaries. I enjoin that 
each man should keep diaries. Even the representatives should send 
diaries. They don't keep them. They feel that they are perfect, but
they are not. But anyway the work has to be carried further. Those who
become a channel, progress.
  
   A thief went to a Master who told him, "not to tell lies; secondly 
not to steal from someone you've taken food from; and thirdly, to stand 
up when you see others have been martyred on account of you. These
teachings you should follow." Some days passed and the thief was 
thinking, "Suppose a man has got ten thousand dollars and somebody takes 
away five hundred dollars: that does not affect him. The man who has got 
only two hundred dollars or one hundred dollars and the whole amount is 
taken away, he will be affected.  So he thought, "I will go to some rich 
man." He went to the ruler of the place. So for going to the ruler of 
the place he dressed himself very nicely. Naturally, if you go to the 
ruler you must be well dressed. After midnight, he came to the rich man's 
house and there were guards outside who were watching. "Who are you?" 
they said. "I am a thief," he replied. He thought, "I am not to tell 
lies." The guards thought, "It is past midnight now. How can any man 
with very good dress be a thief? He must be some near relative or 
friend." So he was allowed in. He collected all the money which he put 
in one place. Then he just saw something to eat. He took it. Now, how 
could he take the money when his Master ordered him not to steal from 
whom he had taken food? So he left everything and came out at about 
3:30 or 4:00. Those who were on the watch said, "All right, he has met 
his friends and is now going away." The next morning the ruler woke up 
and everything was in a pile. "What's all this?" The thief had come, 
gathered everything but did not take it away. He asked the guards, 
"Who came last night?" "I tell you one man came here after midnight. 
He said, `I am a thief.' Then he went away. God knows what happened."   

Next morning they summoned all those thieves recorded by the government 
and began to beat them, asking, "Tell me who had stolen over there." 
When the thief came to know that others were being martyred for his 
sake, he came up, "I am your thief." "What are you talking about?" He 
said, "Yes, I am your thief." "How did it happen?" "When I first went 
to my Master, He gave me three instructions to follow: First, not to 
tell lies; so when they said, `Who are you?' I told them I was a thief. 
I went there and collected everything; then there was something I 
tasted. Naturally I was not able to take what I collected because Master 
said, `Don't take from anyone who has given you food.' Now, because 
others have been beaten for nothing, for my sins, I have come forward, 
as He told me." "Who is your Guru?" the king asked. He went to him.
 
   Even if you follow literally, you're saved. The diaries; have you 
seen that circular on the diaries? "What's the use of keeping a diary?"
There are three or four things given: first of all you become regular,
second, whenever you commit a sin, you confess and third, you remember 
the Master and God in thinking. In Christianity you go to the minister 
and confess after a month or a week. So many times during a day you 
confess. And so many times you remember the Master. "I've forgotten, 
I've done wrong." He says to remember the Master every minute if not 
twice the time, if not three times the time. If during the day you 
commit so many things, you remember the Master so many times and the 
confession washes away.

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