From jamesjs@unixg.ubc.ca Tue Aug 31 22:47:29 1999
Newsgroups: alt.meditation.shabda
Subject: "Five Charged Names"
From: jamesjs@unixg.ubc.ca (James Shannon)
Date: 1 Sep 1999 05:47:29 GMT




                             FIVE CHARGED NAMES

                                    by

                            Sant Kirpal Singh Ji

                        (from "The Light of Kirpal")




December 10, 1970

[Questioner]: In repeating the five Names, does there come a time when just
repeating Sat Naam is sufficient or is it necessary to repeat them in
order every time?

[Master]: Look here, there are five planes, five planes. The Power is the
same, working in different planes, called by different names. You start
from the physical, astral, causal, slowly and then go up, step by step.
The Power is the same. Just as a power house in one building which lights
up all the rooms in the building, the same power house - power in each
one goes to the second plane, then the third, then the fourth. The Power
is the same, Naam or Word, only one. God has hundreds and thousands of
names. But appropriately speaking, there are five planes and the Names
given are according to these planes, one by one. So it (Simran) is for
remembrance and is how a man can go to Him. For instance they learn, "I
am not the body, I am light." Then all three lokas are working, then they
pass away. When you transcend the three gunas you feel I and my Father
are one. Then we are one; no returning. But we have not to think of the
meanings. These names were given according to each plane, but Master can
give any word that strikes Him, that's another thing, because this is a
science, a regular way. So whatever Master gives, that charging will help
you. Do you follow me now? When you've been given the full theory and you
sit inside, Master says, "All right, say Sat Naam," He gives you a boost.
The five names are given only according to the planes. For the fourth
plane, you say... which means I and my Father are one; you feel like
I am One with Him. Then you say that power into expression only is the
cause of all these five planes. But you're not to think of the meaning.
That's only for your intellectual understanding. So any word given by the
Master is sufficient. This is a scientific way you follow. Masters give some
words and say, "All right go on, that charging will help. You are not to
think of the meaning. If you think of the meanings then the intellect
will work. Unless the outgoing faculties are controlled, mind is stilled
and intellect is also stilled for a while, you cannot transcend." Do you
follow now? All right.

    When a new man comes up, the theory should also be explained to him.
Why is the theory not explained to new initiates? They should not repeat the
Names dumb-like, parrot-like. Why five words are given and why we can't
learn them from books. These names are given in the books too, but they are
not 'charged' from a book.

    You see, ordinarily, if the seed is sown in the field, that will
generally grow into a fruit growing tree in about six to seven years. If
you give it food in a scientific way, that very tree will give you fruit in
two to three years. That quickens. Charging quickens the result. Do you
follow me? And moreover, the charging helps to work as a sheet anchor
against any negative apparition within. What is there to guide you, to
protect you? It has a purpose behind it, you see. The same things are
repeated by an ordinary man, that has an effect. There's nothing lost in
nature, but it takes time to sprout forth. A Man who has that power, if he
is sincere, can say to even a child, "All right, repeat these names."
They're His words. Even if he does not know the meaning, those words work
on account of the thought transference or charging behind them. That
quickens the results and also works as a sheet anchor against any negative
power within.

[Q]: In some Satsangs no explanations are given. They feel you should read
only Master's words.

	What I have given in the books I have got it, experienced, digested
and given in my own words, shorn of all terminologies; hard facts. That
you will grasp quickly. You may read other books. There's no harm, if
they're on the subject by others who have been given some glimpses of the
thing.

	Yesterday I got a letter from a very intellectual man, who always
splits hairs. He referred to a book, "Answers by Zoroaster." I had told
him I had not seen the book, so he sent it. He quotes from the 47th page,
"It says so, like that, but your teachings, Ruhani Satsang, are not
according to that." I read the book. Then I explained to him that these
words are explained in a natural way; they mean the same thing. The
language may be different. The way they are put may be different, but the
purpose is the same. So intellectual people simply split hairs. They
cannot come to the core of the matter. For this reason, what I have given
is a digest, you see, hard facts. I think that those who have really gone
in may have referred to a step, two steps, three steps like that, but they
were all on the way. They only gave that much in their own way: what was
necessary to meet with the times. Further, one man wrote to me, "Prophet
Mohammed referred to the horrors in the other world." I tell him, "Well
look here, you do not know the circumstances under which he had to work
there." All were heathens. They were after worldly enjoyments. He told,
"All right, you go up, you'll have more enjoyments." In a way this was to
give them a boost to do something. When they go up they will see for
themselves what is what, and more. On the way too, those whose character
was not sound, fell down in the astral planes. There are reasons. We do
not know the pros and cons and the basic things of why that man has said
so, or why this man has said so.

[Q]: We only read from your books. But I meant to stop and explain a
certain point to the people, who are not yet Satsangis or who are. Some
people take objection to that. Some people feel you should only read
and some people feel you should explain.

[M]: No. No. Don't be too narrow minded. This is given; there is for
instance, an almond with the shell around it. If you break it and get the
real thing, then? This is what you have been given - the real thing,
without any casing outside; direct facts. The intellectuals want to know
why this is so, why this is not a necessity. So this is what I got in
that letter. I had to explain to him not to be too sticky, "Don't lose
the spirit." Whatever I have given I have given for an average layman who
can follow exactly what is what. No hidden terminology or round about
sayings - direct. So it is easier to grasp things, but it is not a hard
and fast rule not to look to the books of others. That is why I gave the
digest of whatever little I came to know intellectually by study or other
scriptures in 'Naam or Word.' I have also written a comparative study
of all Yogas (Crown of Life). You generally won't find books like that.
Each man says his Yoga leads you to the ultimate goal. Well, this is not
so. Each Yoga has its own scope. And by giving a comparative study of
religion it is explained that Hatha Yoga is only to develop your physical
body, that's all. Prana Yoga can prolong your life. In Bhakti Yoga
you'll have to make a hypothesis. I have referred to Ramakrishna as an
instance you may have read. He was a worshiper of the Mother, Shakti.
He saw Mother all around. He went to his Guru and said, "Well, I cannot
transcend into Oneness." Vivekenanda struck him here (on the head), and
he rose. He gave him a boost. Jnana Yoga is a matter of drawing inference
for intellectual giants; not everybody's work. You can have dips -
glimpses of Truth - by these practices. But this (Surat Shabd Yoga) is
direct contact with the God-into-Expression Power, Light and Sound.
You've been given a contact with That. This is not a new thing we are
now giving. Masters have all along been giving to a selected few, In
the old days Rishis used to give children of five, seven and nine years
old, a contact with the Light and Sound.

    On the 7th December, I gave initiation. Some lady who was very
intellectual came up and asked if she could attend. "Well, come on visit,
see for yourself." So she was convinced. Facts are facts, you see. And
this is a rare opportunity due to the grace of our Master, I would say,
that people are having first hand experience all free. You'll very rarely
find this. I've been in contact with most of the heads of other religions.
They have no inkling into it in a practical way. Some Masters do know
too. Swami ____ knew this thing but he started from the lowest center
taking them up step by step. And this has been given to you direct;
that's the difference. By going through here, there, everywhere,
ultimately you come there, to Eye Center. Why not have this on the very
first day? But that depends on the competency of the one who can give
that's all. Who can give you a direct contact with That, is the only
criterion of a Saint or a Master. You are having something. To raise you
up from the body consciousness is a very difficult thing to start with.
For that the Yogis have to do Kumbhak (a Yoga practice involving breath
control) and so many other things for years and years. You get on the
very first day a glimpse of That. This is a great blessing, you see. You
cannot ever judge His greatness, but still you can see there is something.

    Do you follow why the five Names are a necessity? What's the purpose
of it? Masters can say, "Say flower, flower or rose." Word 'rose' does not
accomplish anything in itself but if they're according to scientific
creation, then ... ? The names are given only for the reason I have
explained. When things are not explained to new people who come, they say,
"What is all this?" And they object to repeating parrot-like, saying this,
and then? They're right. Now the world has grown intellectually. They
don't like any imposition or anything. Explain to them.

    Who knows the inner planes? References are written but very few have
gone. They have given references, not details. Even if that is given in
books, and people are telling you parrot-like, "Oh! How will you judge that
he really is the son of God or not?" The only criterion is that He can
give you a boost, a way up, on the very first day, whether young or old,
He gives you something to start with. The more you go, the same God-into-
Expression leads you to the place from where It emanated. So this is a
very natural way, but it is difficult to give first hand experience,
maybe little or more.

	In the old days, you know, the people were made to sit at the feet of
the Master for years. It is said of Abraam, Abraam Adam, who left the
kingship to have spirituality from Kabir, that he remained three, four
years, very obedient to Kabir. Loi who was a worker in charge of the
household told Kabir, "Well he has been here for three years. It is better
to give him something." He told her "Oh, he's not yet ready." "Why do you
say? He obeys every little order of yours, lives according to what is
given to him and does not do anything of his own will; anything." "All
right, when he goes out of the door, throw the rubbish of the whole
household over his head, then hear what he says." She did this on the
following morning, throwing all the rubbish of the house over his head.
He said, "Had I been in Bokhara!" (Where he was king.) That I-hood was
still there, with all his obedience. So Kabir said, "I told you he was
not ready yet." Then after two, three years more Kabir said, "Now he's
ready." She said, "What is the difference? We don't find any difference
outwardly." "All right now, when he goes out, put all the refuse of the
house, including the night waste over his head, and then hear what he
says." She did the same thing. He said, "Oh God, I'm still worse than
that." You follow me?

	It's fortunate you've come in contact with the God-into-Expression
Power by which you lose your ego. The more you come in contact, you
become a conscious co-worker. And that starts when you rise above the
body consciousness. That is what Masters have been stressing: "Learn
to die so that you may begin to live." At the time of death, the soul
withdraws from outside and rises above at the back of the eyes and you
see some Power is working. When you rise above body consciousness daily
you see some very strong Power is controlling the whole universe. And
fortunate you are, I would say, with the Grace of our Master, you are
all having it.

    So now it is for you to develop by regular practice and ethical living.
And the diary is meant only for that purpose. You are given something the
very first day, something you should have had only after years of
preparation, when you are ready, like Abraam. So that's the golden
opportunity you people have got. I'm only the midway and nothing else. The
instrument is there and that God Power is working. No son of man can do it.
It is He, the Christ Power or God Power which never dies, you see. They
asked me in America, "Tell me, when is Christ returning?" I told them,
"Has He ever left you?" He says, "I shall never leave thee nor forsake
thee till the end of the world." All Masters say that. You may leave; He
will never leave you. Our Master used to say, He won't leave you unless
He takes you to the Feet of the Sat Purusha. You may leave Him but He
has a long rope, you see. So that Power works, that Power at different
times and through different human poles according to the needs of the
times. He knows best. And the only criterion is that He should be able
to give you something, some capital to start with, maybe little, maybe
more. And that can be developed more and more, not through the word of
mouth, mind that, but through receptivity. One third is learnt through
word of mouth, and two thirds by receptivity. Eyes are the windows of
the soul. When soul is absorbed in the intoxication, well, you'll have
the same injection in your soul.

    Once I was sitting by the Master. He used to make me sit and give a
talk. He was training me like a child, you see. I used to repeat my
questions and thoughts to Him. I used to turn to Him and talk and the
people enjoyed. Once I told Him, in the old days, there were customs. They
(Masters) would dip the large toe of the foot and give the disciples the
water sanctified by this charging. Then the times did come when they were
made to sit before Master's Face and look into His Eyes. Soul speaks
through the eyes and they were charged. Then the time would come when they
would bring something they had made to Master, some silks or something like
that, and He charged their work. He touched it, "All right, you have it."
Then again the time came when they used to bow down and touch the Master's
Feet. And our Master used to say, "Well, what is lying down there, I'm
here. What are you up to? I'm here, through the Eyes." And now I say, "Well,
all right, folding hands is sufficient." Folding hands means you look into
the eyes and you see. Why bow down, why not look direct? That is direct
contact, through the eyes. Do you follow these purposes? So eyes are the
windows of the soul, you see.

	These things are not yet explained in books very clearly, I tell you,
but the facts are there. If you read all scriptures you ultimately conclude
that there is something. What's the use of these words (Simran)? Charging
helps, not the words. The words only explain the planes according to
creation, that's all. The newcomers want to understand intellectually why
it is necessary. Previously nobody questioned it. Masters said, "All right,
go on, go on." And charging helped them. Whether you know the whys and
wherefores of things or not, the charging will help.

    What do the children see? You saw the other day. I gave a sitting to
the children outside. "All right have it, sit down, see here." What
explanation is given to them? Nothing. So it's the charging that helps.
That comes from the soul in whatever state it is in. That is why you can
enjoy this even from thousands of miles when you develop receptivity. Of
course physical presence cannot be underrated. That is direct, by
radiation. Radiation can be had even at thousands of miles as I told.
Only direct your attention. Let nothing remain between you and Him; Not
even your body. So when you have understood, do it. Derive the full
benefit. Do you remember Christ said, "Eat me, drink me." How to eat Him?
Not the flesh, you see. He is Word made flesh. It is Word you have to eat.
And what do you have to drink? The nectar of the Word. That is within you
and you have been given a contact within. So this is an explanation of
the five charged words.

	These are outer lectures, because they are given out heart to heart,
there it is. The whole theory is explained in these talks ... Read "Crown
of Life." Read "Naam or Word." Very clear, whatever could possibly be
given to you in words, is given therein. The question is to digest, to
live up to it. If you follow correctly then everything will be all right.
Newcomers are very intellectual. They will not take a step unless they
understand why it is so. "Why should I repeat these words? Why not others?"

    So sometimes the group leader over there does not explain. I told
him that they have told you the Names but not the whys and the wherefores.
Perhaps for want of time ... How can these things (explanation of charged
words) be explained in their general lecture, you see? There the theory is
explained. They're right so far, I supported them. But they should now I
think, give explanation privately as questions come up.

    Very intellectual people do want. Some people come up to me, "I have
come. Will you give me time?" "Oh yes, do come on, bring all your questions.
Sit inside, lock the door. Keep the key with you. Don't come out until you're
satisfied." What more can I say? With the Grace of God, of course, I know
that Truth is Truth and cannot be made untruth. I am giving you what I have
found with the Grace of the Master.

    Are you doing all right with your meditations please? Don't keep
reserved. You're here only for that purpose. God will give you. He's
within you, waiting for you, anxiously. Would you keep Him waiting? Then
hurry after Him. Thank you.

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