Police TimeLine Testimony Three

Last Update: 6 January 1996

Police TimeLine Testimony

From: 12:00 Noon, 13 June 1994

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Q. At that time did you indicate to us that you believed you received the call somewhere around 1:30? After you received this call, were you asked to go to some location?
A. On Rockingham.

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Q. You got out there what time?
A. According to the sign-in log, a little bit after 3:00.

1500 - Adkins arrives at Rockingham and has discussion with Harper, then Haro.
Q. What time did you arrive at Rockingham, if you recall?
A. I don't recall. I think it was probably somewhere around 3, 3:30.
Q. And then after your initial conversation with Detective Harper, you then were turned over to Detective Haro, H-A-R-O?
A. Correct.
Q. Where was Haro when you first talked to him on that date?
A. I don't specifically recall, I think it was outside the front door of Mr. Simpson's home.

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Q. How long of this 20 minutes did you spend shooting outside?
A. I would estimate about 20 minutes.
Q. No. I thought the entire thing was 20 to 30 minutes. So 20 minutes was outside?
A. This is not continuous running.
Q. You would shoot, cut off, go to some other location?
A. Roger.

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Q. By the way -- I will get to a particular point and ask you a question. Now, right there, do you see that? Did you shoot that glove there with a picture of a young lady there?
Q. Was that glove placed there before you got there?
MS. LEWIS: Could we note the time on the video is 2:50.
MR. COCHRAN: 2:50 p.m. 6-13-94.
Q. That is the way the glove appeared there, with the photograph of the young lady, at the time you shot it?
Q. Did anybody tell you to shoot that?
A. No, no.
Q. That was out there in that condition?
A. Yes, sir.

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Clark: WHAT TIME WAS IT WHEN YOU LEFT THE POLICE STATION TO GO TO GRANT CRAMER'S HOUSE?
Kaelin: I THINK AT 4:00 O'CLOCK OR SO; 4:00, 4:15.
Clark: SO YOU WERE AT THE POLICE STATION. WAS IT BEFORE OR AFTER THE INTERVIEW WITH THE POLICE THAT YOU CALLED THE DEFENDANT? YOU SAID YOU CALLED THE HOUSE.
Kaelin: HOUSE -- THERE WAS PEOPLE THERE. I DON'T -- I DON'T -- KNOW. I THINK IT WAS A RELATIVE THAT PICKED UP THE PHONE. IT HAD TO BE AFTER. THE INTERVIEW WITH -- THE POLICE. { AT THE WEST L.A. STATION.} IT HAD TO BE BECAUSE I WAS THERE. I DIDN'T MAKE ANY PHONE CALLS WHEN I WAS THERE UNTIL AFTER THEY WERE THROUGH WITH ME.
=== Kaelin confuses "message" and "concern" calls === Q. ALL RIGHT. AND WHAT PHONE NUMBER DID YOU CALL?
A MY PHONE.
Q YOU CALLED YOUR PHONE? BUT YOU WEREN'T HOME.
A. NO, BUT I WAS CALLING TO SEE MY MESSAGES. WELL, I WAS AT THE POLICE STATION TO MAKE A PHONE CALL AND I -- I HAD MY OWN LINE. SO I CALLED IN. THAT'S WHEN I KNEW SOMETHING -- THAT IT WAS A BIG MEDIA EVENT. BUT I DON'T -- WHEN I WENT TO GRANT'S, I DON'T REMEMBER GIVING OUT MY -- THE NUMBER THERE. I JUST DON'T REMEMBER. I COULD HAVE. I DON'T KNOW.

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Q. As best you can recall, you were shooting at 3:13 p.m. on June 13th in the bedroom?
A. I understand the time is off about an hour.

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Q AND DID YOU CALL TO -- INTO THE MAIN HOUSE?
A NOT FROM THERE {the police station}. I DON'T REMEMBER CALLING FROM GRANT'S HOUSE EITHER THOUGH, BUT I COULD HAVE. I PROBABLY DID, BUT --
Q OKAY. DO YOU REMEMBER CALLING THE DEFENDANT TO TELL HIM OR TO LET SOMEONE AT THE HOUSE KNOW WHERE YOU'D BE?
THE WITNESS: I -- I PROBABLY DID, BECAUSE I'M SURE THEY WERE WORRIED ABOUT ME, WHERE I WAS.
Q YOU DIDN'T TELL THEM YOU WERE GOING TO GRANT'S HOUSE?
A I -- I THINK IT WAS ON MY -- I CALLED THE HOUSE UP ON ROCKINGHAM AND SAID I WAS AT A FRIEND'S HOUSE, BUT I DON'T KNOW WHO ANSWERED -- I CAN'T REMEMBER WHO ANSWERED THE PHONE AT THE HOUSE.
Q DID YOU LEAVE A PHONE NUMBER WHERE YOU COULD BE REACHED?
A I MUST HAVE I THINK.

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=== Simpson & Attorney's begin fact finding efforts === Q UH-HUH. DID YOU GET A PHONE CALL WHEN YOU WERE AT GRANT CRAMER'S HOUSE?
THE WITNESS: IT WAS HOWARD WEITZMAN.
Q SO WHEN YOU WERE ON THE PHONE, WERE YOU SPEAKING -- YOU WERE SPEAKING TO THE DEFENDANT AND HIS LAWYER, MR. WEITZMAN, AT THE SAME TIME?
A WELL, I WAS TALKING TO WEITZMAN, BUT THEN I THOUGHT THAT WAS -- THAT O.J. CAME ON. SO I THOUGHT THEY WERE -- THEY WERE ALL ON. I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW. I DIDN'T SEE, BUT I THOUGHT IT WAS LIKE A THREE-WAY CALL.
Q DO YOU RECALL WHO WAS -- WHO IT WAS THAT INITIALLY PLACED THE CALL TO YOU AT GRANT CRAMER'S HOUSE?
A IT COULD HAVE BEEN CATHY PLUGGING ME INTO HOWARD WEITZMAN OR HOWARD WEITZ -- I DON'T REMEMBER. I KNOW I TALKED TO HIM THOUGH.
A WASN'T VERY LONG. I'D SAY LIKE FIVE MINUTES.
A THEY SAID TO TELL THE TRUTH.
Q UH-HUH. OH, REALLY. WHO TOLD YOU THAT?
A THEY BOTH DID.
A HOWARD WEITZMAN AND O.J.
Q OKAY. HOW LONG DID YOU SPEAK TO THE DEFENDANT IN THE FIRST PHONE CALL?
A MAYBE TWO TO THREE MINUTES.
Q AND IN THE FIRST PHONE CALL WHEN YOU SPOKE TO HOWARD WEITZMAN, HOW LONG DID YOU SPEAK TO HIM?
A MAYBE FIVE MINUTES.
Q AND HOW LONG DID YOU SPEAK TO CATHY RANDA?
A I -- TWO MINUTES.
Q AND HOW LONG DID YOU SPEAK TO SKIP TAFT?
A I CAN'T GIVE LIKE EXACT TIMES. I -- I DON'T KNOW. FIVE MINUTES.

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=== Facts are quickly coordinated, then reverified === Q AFTER THAT FIRST PHONE CALL IN WHICH YOU SPOKE TO THE DEFENDANT,CATHY RANDA AND THE DEFENDANT'S LAWYER, HOWARD WEITZMAN -- -- DID YOU HAVE ANOTHER CONVERSATION WITH THEM?
A I -- I COULD HAVE. I MEAN, I DON'T REMEMBER.
Q DID YOU ALSO HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH SKIP TAFT?
Q AND WAS THAT IN THE FIRST PHONE CALL AS WELL?
A I DON'T REMEMBER IF IT'S THE FIRST PHONE CALL.
Q AND DID YOU HAVE A SECOND PHONE CALL WITH ANY OF THE PEOPLE WE'VE MENTIONED; SKIP TAFT, HOWARD WEITZMAN, CATHY RANDA OR THE DEFENDANT?
A I THINK I HAD ANOTHER PHONE CALL WITH HOWARD WEITZMAN.
Q AND WHO ELSE DID YOU TALK TO IN THAT SECOND PHONE CALL?
A I -- I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT DAY IT WAS, THE PHONE CALL. IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN TO ROBERT SHAPIRO.
Q NO. NO. I'M TALKING ABOUT JUNE THE 13TH AT GRANT CRAMER'S HOUSE.
A I DON'T KNOW. I TALKED TO HOWARD WEITZMAN AND TO O.J. AND CATHY RANDA. THAT PHONE CALL, I -- I DON'T REMEMBER.
Q OKAY. AFTER THAT PHONE CALL, DID YOU HAVE ANOTHER PHONE CALL FROM ANY OF THOSE PEOPLE AT GRANT CRAMER'S HOUSE ON JUNE THE 13TH?
A CATHY RANDA MIGHT HAVE CALLED.
Q AND WHO DID YOU SPEAK TO IN THAT SECOND PHONE CALL?
A IT'S POSSIBLE I SPOKE TO O.J.
A PROBABLY A VERY SHORT TIME, MAYBE THREE TO FIVE MINUTES.
A I -- I DON'T REMEMBER. I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS HOWARD WEITZMAN AGAIN OR NOT. BOY, I -- I JUST CAN'T -- I CAN'T REMEMBER THAT -- THE PHONE CALL. THE ONE PHONE CALL, I'M TRYING TO -- I'M TRYING TO REMEMBER, AND I CAN'T.
Q AND YOU SPOKE TO HIM FOR HOW LONG IN THE SECOND PHONE CALL?
A PROBABLY THE SAME AMOUNT OF TIME. MAYBE FIVE MAX.
Q AND IN THE SECOND PHONE CALL, WHAT DID YOU DISCUSS WITH THEDEFENDANT?
A I -- I SAID I COULDN'T BELIEVE THIS -- WHAT WAS GOING ON, AND I -- I WAS JUST TALKING ABOUT THAT.
Q ABOUT WHAT?
A I DON'T -- THE NIGHT OF STRANGE THINGS. I SAID I HEARD THE THUMPING NOISE.
Q DID -- DID THE DEFENDANT TELL YOU WHAT HAD OCCURRED WITH HIM AFTER HE GOT BACK FROM CHICAGO OR DID YOU KNOW?
A I -- THE T.V. MIGHT HAVE BEEN ON. I KNEW AT SOME POINT, BUT I DIDN'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT WAS ALL GOING ON. I KNEW THAT HE WAS ARRESTED.

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Q AND WHEN YOU GOT BACK TO ROCKINGHAM, WHO WAS THERE?
A I -- I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW THE PEOPLE. IT WAS A LOT OF RELATIVES, FRIENDS, UMM, UH, FACES THAT I DIDN'T KNOW AND RELATIVES, ARNELLE AND JASON AND --
Q OKAY. DO YOU RECALL WHAT TIME IT WAS WHEN YOU GOT THERE EXACTLY?
A I THOUGHT IT WAS MAYBE 9:30 OR 10:00. I -- I DON'T KNOW THE TIME. I KNOW THE NEWS WAS ON.
Q WHO DID YOU TALK TO WHEN YOU WENT BACK TO ROCKINGHAM?
A I -- I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH O.J.
THE WITNESS: THERE WAS A CONVERSATION THAT, UH -- ABOUT THE MC DONALD'S, THAT I DIDN'T SEE HIM GO BACK IN THE HOUSE, AND THAT WAS WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT. AND I SAID NO, I DIDN'T SEE.
Q OKAY. AND DID YOU TALK TO HIM ALSO ABOUT THE THUMPS ON THE WALL? DID YOU TELL HIM WHAT YOU HAD TOLD THE POLICE?
A YES. THAT I HEARD THIS THUMPING, THE PICTURE MOVED. A I -- I DON'T. I SAID -- I -- I -- I SAID I WAS AT THE STATION AND I -- I WAS REPORT AND I TOLD WHAT I'M TELLING YOU, THAT I HEARD THESE NOISES, BUT I -- HE HAD ASKED ME ABOUT THAT I SAW HIM GO BACK IN THE HOUSE AND I DIDN'T.

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Bailey: YOU NEVER WENT OVER TO ROCKINGHAM?
Riske: I WENT LATER IN THE EVENING.
Bailey: ALL RIGHT. WHAT TIME DID YOU GET OVER TO ROCKINGHAM?
Riske: 11:15, 11:30 P.M.

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