Interview with Guerrilla Commander Raul Reyes:                                  
                                                                                
"THE SANTA FE DOCUMENT II IS STILL APPLIED IN COLOMBIA TODAY"                   
                                                                                
Q:      The military often says they have discovered drug laboratories          
protected by the guerrilla movement.  Do you have a comment about this?         
                                                                                
RR:     This is absolutely false.  It is part of the misinformation             
campaign, part of the Army's inability to demonstrate results.  These           
factors justify their presence in some areas by discovering alleged             
laboratories which are actually mere workshops a few peasants have,             
places they set up to work the coca leaf.                                       
                                                                                
        They grow nothing more.  These are not laboratories, but merely places  
where they store some gas and some salt to process the leaf which they         
will later sell to intermediaries.  That's it.  But the military makes          
it into something big to justify to the US the use of US aid for the war        
against drugs.  They are trying to fool not only Colombians but also the        
North Americans themselves, because anyone who doesn't know that says:          
"so these guerrillas are winning the war" and that's why they show off          
thousands of hectacres they've fumigated lately, and that also is               
untrue.                                                                         
                                                                                
        If the North Americans wanted to verify this, we can get them the       
necessary information, we could show them the coca regions, take them to        
the laboratories the military has allegedly destroyed and they will see         
that this is all a farse, that it is deceit, a lie that is being told           
not only to Colombians but also to the international community.                 
                                                                                
Q:      I understand that you have formally invited representatives of the US   
government and Colombian anti-narco trafficking authorities to the zones        
where the FARC-EP fronts are located so that they can verify in person          
that there are no links between the narco traffickers and the FARC-EP.  
RR:     It would be very interesting to have a means of communicating with      
them, to allow them access to places that we indicate, in any department        
because the FARC-EP are all throughout Colombia, so they can see and get        
information on the other Colombia, the Colombia the Colombian government        
and military hide.                                                              
                                                                                
        That would be very important because it would allow the North Americans 
and their government to see the reality they are not aware of.  It is           
very important for us because our policy is to communicate with                 
everyone, our policy is to talk with different goverments and their             
parties, with social organizations, intellectuals and all religious             
expressions.  This is how we have spoken with various European                  
governments, neighboring and other Latin American governments.  Likewise        
it would be equally important and very positive to be able to speak with        
the US, all the more so since they have put their government forth as a         
possible participant in the dialogue process to facilitate the terms to         
be approved of with the FARC-EP.                                                
                                                                                
        This could be a possible beginning to look for methods for peace,
because it is also clear to us that the governments that will                   
participate in a possible dialogue must participate with the approval           
and the request of all parties concerned, including the FARC and the            
guerrilla organization that represents part of the Colombian society and        
State.  We will not accept any government or organization appearing as          
facilitator in representation of both organizations (both States, both          
governments - Bogota's and our own) which has been invited by Bogota            
alone because we must also be included in the process.  All of this             
would then allow us to advance with our proposal, which may turn into           
something very important in making the Colombian reality known so we can        
all work together to solve the current political and socio-economic             
crisis.                                                                         
                                                                                
Q:      But the US tendency toward Colombia is one of handing over more war     
material to the government in Bogota.  Is this not contradictory?               
                                                                                
RR:     Yes, this is well known and the press in Colombia makes a big deal      
out of it.  It is skillfuly manipulated also to show that they have             
North American aid because everyone knows that North America is not      
satisfied with President Samper because of his involvement with the             
mafia, and his profits from narco dollars.                                      
                                                                                
        So they want to demonstrate that this is not so, because the US is      
still providing a lot of financial aid and the so called plans for the          
war against illegal crops in Colombia.  If they receive any aid at all,         
large or small, they magnify it, make it larger than life evidence of           
the fight they are not really fighting.  It is not true that they are           
fighting against drugs traffickers, the ones they are fighting are the          
peasants, the poor, those who have no other choice.                             
                                                                                
        We think that the North Americans lack information, they lack the       
knowledge of where their resources end up, and who benefits from them.=20       
Those resources do not end up where they were assigned to go.=20                
Supposedly allocated for the war against drugs the resources are really         
used in the war against the guerrilla, against the peasants, and to             
contribute to financing the paramilitaries.  So we would like to be able        
to show the North Americans whenever they like what our vision is               
regarding these matters.  We would like to show such public figures as  
Mr. Carter and others, so they may have information about what the              
Colombian political class is, and how it acts to deceive not only               
Colombians but also North Americans.                                            
                                                                                
        This is a problem that is part of Colombian politics.  Perhaps the      
North Americans do not realize that if the resources they gave were             
invested in other areas like agrarian reform, roads, health facilities,         
and education, then it would improve the image of North America in              
Colombia.  It would not contribute to what they are doing today, which          
is actually creating more pain for the people by protecting the corrupt,        
the narco traffickers, and the mafioso government represented by Dr.            
Samper.                                                                         
                                                                                
Q:      But do you really believe that the North Americans are so naive and     
so misinformed that they do not know exactly what is happening in               
Colombia with respect to narco trafficking?                                     
                                                                                
RR:     No, they are not naive, but they get information from a State and       
they are a State.  At the State level there are exchanges; they have     
political, economic, and military relations.  We also know that North           
American policy has various interpretations, and not all North Americans        
agree with the policies.  For example, not all agree with Mr. Helms             
concerning the embargo against Cuba, or the repressive laws against             
Colombians, or against Iraq or other regions in the world.  Likewise            
they must see that in Colombia there are also various interpretations,          
but that this can strengthen and benefit Colombia and her friends to            
find ways besides North American repression.  This can happen if they           
have accurate information and not only reports from Colombian                   
intelligence, General Serrano Cadena, the Colombian army, DAS, or the           
President himself, be he Samper or Serpa.                                       
                                                                                
Q:      How do you view the creation of a new Anti drug Center in Panama by     
the US?                                                                         
                                                                                
RR:     This is part of a strategy to protect their interests.  We all know     
that above all US policy is to protect what they consider theirs, and           
they believe that everything in the world belongs to them.  So they are         
on the Panama/Colombia border in support of Panama's  government, and by  
request and in support of Colombia's government as well.  So that is            
where they are going to stay, and they are going to set up some bases           
that will be not for mafia control, but rather to control the                   
revolutionary organizations on the continent.  So this has some                 
political implications that naturally affect the US and of course all of        
the people in the region, countries not part of the empire but rather           
dependent on the US.                                                            
                                                                                
        But perhaps the US has not thought that this may complicate the future  
for them, because in the Colombian case anti US sentiment is                    
increasingly strong.  This is a product of their poor policies, and it          
is why many people in Colombia see them not only as their enemies but           
also as meddling in their domestic affairs.  This is why they are               
looking toward Europe.  They think that Europe is different, and of             
course its behavior is different from US behavior because the US is             
closer to Colombia and South America than Europe.                               
                                                                                
Q:      In any case, can you summarize that the Santa Fe II Document (which     
was drawn up by US foreign policy advisors in 1989, editor's note) is         
request and in support of Colombia's government as well.  So that is            
where they are going to stay, and they are going to set up some bases           
that will be not for mafia control, but rather to control the                   
revolutionary organizations on the continent.  So this has some                 
political implications that naturally affect the US and of course all of        
the people in the region, countries not part of the empire but rather           
dependent on the US.                                                            
                                                                                
        But perhaps the US has not thought that this may complicate the future  
for them, because in the Colombian case anti US sentiment is                    
increasingly strong.  This is a product of their poor policies, and it          
is why many people in Colombia see them not only as their enemies but           
also as meddling in their domestic affairs.  This is why they are               
looking toward Europe.  They think that Europe is different, and of             
course its behavior is different from US behavior because the US is             
closer to Colombia and South America than Europe.                               
                                                                                
Q:      In any case, can you summarize that the Santa Fe II Document (which     
was drawn up by US foreign policy advisors in 1989, editor's note) is         
still in effect because there is a concern reflected in the document            
with respect to Colombia's socio political development, the growth of           
the armed movement, etc.?                                                       
                                                                                
RR:     Yes, even though the East-West conflict disappeared with the "fall      
of true socialism in Moscow," in Colombia the Santa Fe II document is           
still applied.  This is evident in death squads, the application of the         
theory of national security, and the internal war that massacres                
political opposition, where social protest is criminalized, and where           
anyone who protests because of hunger, thirst, desire for education, to         
be paid for a job, or to have a job, is henceforth considered                   
subversive.  This is the application of the theory of national security         
which allows the government to maintain fear in the population so they          
can impose the neo liberal model with force.  Economic opening is               
another element that contributes to Colombia being in such a serious            
situation.  This also gives the revolutionary movement led by the               
guerrilla more elements to justify its existence, expressed by growing          
numbers of armed men and women, and by entering into new areas of the           
economy, and in society.                                              
The Jos=E9 Mar=EDa C=F3rdoba Block of the FARC-EP hereby makes known that:      
                                                                                
1.      In combat with units from the 17 Brigade of the Army and its            
paramilitaries 10 soldiers were killed, the Convivir headquarters in the        
center of Medellin was destroyed, and a powerful explosion was placed           
against Uniban.  Furthermore a hacienda and two buses from the                  
paramilitary company Rapido Ochoa were destroyed in the jurisdiction of         
Altamira, the village of Betulia, Antioquia, when five paramilitary             
murderers were killed.  Later in Carepa in combat with paramilitaries           
from the Army's 17 Brigade, ten were killed and five more were seriously        
injured.  Confiscated for the people were 10 AK guns with 1,000 bullets.        
                                                                                
2.      There were no guerrilla losses.                                         
                                                                                
Jos=E9 Mar=EDa C=F3rdoba Block Command                                          
The Mountains of Colombia                                                       
April 1998                                           

1.      What do the FARC think about the presidential candidates and their      
peace proposals?                                                                
                                                                                
We must know who among all the candidates will be the new President of          
the Republic and then know his peace proposals as Chief of State.  We           
must not forget that historically in the period of electoral debate many        
promises are made that are not kept in the presidency.                          
                                                                                
2.      What do you think about this possibility in relation to the other       
actors in the conflict (the State, the ELN, EPL and the                         
paramilitaries)?  Is there a possibility to take this process up as the         
Sim=F3n Bol=EDvar Guerrilla Coordinator?  What do you think about the           
proposal of the National Convention of the ELN as a basis to begin the          
process?                                                                        
                                                                                
Rest assured that the revolutionary organizations are not stepping back         
in the peace proposals with social justice set forth time and again.=20  
The State has the responsibility to create the political conditions for         
rapprochement with the various political forces in order to begin               
dialogues, for which is is necessary to assume the challenges implicit          
in the construction of understanding, tolerance and the solution to the         
causes of the conflict.                                                         
                                                                                
3.      What requirements or conditions do you feel are necessary in order to   
sit at a negotiation table in the future?  Are there political, social,         
economic and cultural conditions necessary to begin this process?               
                                                                                
In various documents and public speeches we have noted that in order to         
begin serious peace talks we must see the evacuation of troops from the         
municipalities of Uribe, Mesetas, Vistahermosa and Macarena, the                
department of Meta and the municipality of San Vicente del Cagu=E1n in          
Caquet=E1.  We also will attend dialogues as an armed revolutionary             
organization and will not accept them under denigrating name calling far        
from the raison d'etre of our organization.  Thus, we demand true               
commitment and political will in dismantling paramilitary groups and            
death squads in the army.  These organizations go unpunished after  
murdering and displacing unarmed civilians, under the pretext of                
defending State policies.  Everyday Colombia is closer to a larger war          
stimulated by the devastating effects of the neo liberal model,                 
corruption in all parts of the government, intolerance, lies and                
blackmail made possible by the governmental regime.  These are                  
sufficient reasons for reacting responsibly in true civilized solutions         
which must be the result of the patriotic meeting of all social,                
political, economic and religious sectors who are interested in changing        
the dangerous direction our country has been taking to this day.                
                                                                                
4.      Would your willingness to begin a reconciliation process be for the     
long term, medium term or the present, and under what arguments? =20            
                                                                                
Since there has been a true political decision to abandon the path of           
war and the government has seriously begun the construction of peace            
clamored for by the poor, we feel that it is not wise to attach time            
limits because peace demands immense resources of every kind, and time          
counts too.                                                              


PRESS RELEASE FROM THE FARC-EP                                                  
                                                                                
To the wives and other relatives of the North American New Tribes               
Missionaries who were disappeared on the frontier of Colombia with              
Panam=E1, we confirm to you again that the FARC-EP carried out a careful        
investigation in the entire region of the Antioquian Urab=E1 regarding the      
worrisome case and to date we have no other information than that made          
known in a Press Release from December 1997, attached.  The guerrilla           
organization cannot assume the responsibility for acts we did not commit        
and it is unjust to make statements regarding alleged actions lacking           
any objectivity at all.                                                         
                                                                                
We would like to believe that the humane, explicable tasks of relatives         
worried about the disappearance of their loved ones have nothing to do          
with the various pretexts the Pentagon and the White House use with the         
approval of their country's extreme right.  They seek nonexistent               
motives to openly intervene in the domestic affairs of Colombia with            
more dollars, planes and combat helicopters, military advisors, experts       
in communications and mass destruction arms to support the Armed Forces         
and Ernesto Samper's government.  Elected with drug money and known             
throughout the world for the high rate of Human Rights Violations and           
International Human Rights Violations, besides corruption, Samper covers        
his delinquent acts under the wide umbrella of impunity, threats,               
indiscriminate murders and forced displacement of peasants and the              
unarmed civilian population.                                                    
                                                                                
The FARC-EP would like to alert the people of the US of the dangerous           
outcome US (or other foreign) military intervention against the                 
revolutionary organizations fighting for peace for the 30 million poor          
will have.  So we make the urgent call to your people, to social                
organizations, the progressive and the democratic forces to demand that         
their government avoid another dangerous venture similar to or worse            
than Vietnam, part of our sad memory.                                           
                                                                                
Attached is the press release referred to.                                      
                                                                                
In the spirit of Bolivar,          
THE INTERNATIONAL COMMISSION                                                    
May 1998                                                                        
                                                                                
                                                                                
                                                                                
                                                                                
TO THE INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY                                                  
                                                                                
The Internal Conflict and Narco Trafficking                                     
                                                                                
The Colombian military government has launched the largest and most             
desperate propaganda campaign based on their admitted incapacity to             
militarily or politically defeat the Guerrilla, in order to sell the            
International public opinion on the idea of an alleged link between the         
Guerrilla and narco trafficking.  This is a resource copied from the            
Hitlerian practice of repeating and repeating a lie until attaining its         
acceptance as a truth.                                                   

In some ways this campaign is a remake of the story about the birds             
throwing themselves into the line of fire.  Is not Samper, against all          
ethical grounds, enjoying the seat of Bolivar thanks to the money he            
received from the Cali cartel?  Was not General Bonett, Commander of the        
Armed Forces, Commander of the III Brigade of the Army when the Cali            
Cartel moved with complete freedom, in the center of crime?  Perchance          
was not General Bedoya the one who commanded the VII Brigade when the           
coca zones spread across the Eastern Plains?  Not to mention the                
Attorneys General, controllers, lawyers, and congressmen who also               
benefitted from the dirty mafia money.                                          
                                                                                
Joe Toffal is right on when he declares the Colombian regime a narco            
democracy.                                                                      
                                                                                
The dirty campaign designed to link the Guerrilla and narco trafficking         
lies on two essencial propositions: on the one hand, it seeks to                
delegitimize the Guerrilla and reduce it to common delinquency to avoid         
it being considered as an alternative for change and power; and on the          
other hand, it seeks to open a space to justify direct US intervention  
in the internal conflict.  The first is impossible for an oligarchical          
government which has sown injustice on Colombian soil for decades; the          
second is starting to motivate the Pentagon.                                    
                                                                                
US intervention in domestic affairs in Colombia is not a new event: the         
US has granted military aid and advisors to the Colombian Army since the        
attack on Marquetalia, including the attack on Casa Verde and the               
combats in Yari, during which General Bonett himself admitted receiving         
electronic and satellite aid to fight the Guerrilla.                            
                                                                                
We would like to send a clear message to the US and the international           
community: The FARC-EP do not engage in the cultivation of coca leaves,         
we do not tend crops or processing laboratories, and do not traffick            
cocaine.  As a principle we condemn narco trafficking for the horrible          
evils it causes human beings and especially young people.  The                  
cultivation of the coca leaf and the poppy in Colombia is doubtless a           
serious social problem.  It has to do with hunger, unemployment and             
forced displacement caused by State violence.  The solution cannot be           
simply irrational repression of the poor peasants.  If we have attacked  
fumigation helicopters and planes it is not only because they are an            
obvious military target, but also and above all because we do not agree         
with the devastation of the environment and the irreversible damaged            
caused to the flora, fauna, water springs and the people by spraying            
toxic products.  Surely the US would not permit similar sprayings in            
their own territory.                                                            
                                                                                
The solution to the narco problem must take up the social causes which          
generate it.  The truth is that the Colombian government, because of its        
vested interests, has never been politically willing to carry out the           
urgent task of the redistribution of land.  It has been busy adopting           
economic policies for the exclusive benefit of monopolies while the             
majority of Colombians hear only demagogy and redeeming promises that           
are never kept.  It is necessary to implement a coherent plan of crop           
substitution to open new perspectives for the sustenance of peasants,           
complemented with the execution of a true development program including         
land titles, credit which is favorable to the peasant, highways, health         
and educational facilities, a market for their products, the                    
construction of ports and airports, among other urgent necessities.  Of   
course, in this effort the solidary participation of the International          
Community is necessary.                                                         
                                                                                
In Colombia the Medellin and Cali drug cartels have almost been                 
dismantled, but their activities have resurged with the tolerance of the        
Army by the paramilitary cartel led by the Casta=F1o Gil family, while in       
the US the most notorious distributors remain untouched.  If we solve           
the social causes which push the peasant to illegal crops, and if we            
educate US and other international youth for non consumption, the               
Cartels which still persist in Colombia and in the US will have no              
incentive and narco trafficking will then begin its descent into                
history.                                                                        
                                                                                
The International Commission of the FARC-EP                                     
                                                                                
                                                                                
PRESS RELEASE                                                                   
                                                                                
The 34 Front of the Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia, Army of the  
People, hereby informs the national and international public opinion:           
                                                                                
1.      On Tuesday April 28 a 60 unit patrol from the Granaderos de Frontino    
Battalion, Antioquia, occupied the town of Encarnaci=F3n in the                 
municipality of Urrao.  There it began to gather together the                   
townspeople in the name of the Autodefensas de C=F3rdoba and Urab=E1.  They     
later opened fire against the town, leaving 23 peasants murdered, 10 on         
the outskirts and 13 in the Ca=F1on del Maravillo.  They also burned the        
hospital, looted the stores and broke down doors to various houses.             
                                                                                
This military operation was completed in conjunction with Captain               
Osorio, Urrao military base Commander.  This base has been linked to            
other massacres in the region, totaling more than 150 dead.                     
                                                                                
2.      As a result, this new massacre is the responsibility of the Official    
Armed Forces, which made good on the threats they had previously made           
known in the village.                                                           
                                                                                
3.      Now as always some public officials seek to manipulate the facts, and  
are presenting them as the result of confrontations with the guerrilla          
and paramilitary groups.                                                        
                                                                                
4.      This massacre is the continuation of the dirty war, the expression of   
the Doctrine of National Security, which leads the Official Army and            
converts the people into the internal enemy to defeat.                          
                                                                                
34 Front of the FARC-EP                                                         
The Mountains of Antioquia, April 1998                                          
                                                                                
                                                                                
The 9 Front of the FARC - EP denounces the following:                           
                                                                                
1.      The peasant murders in the villages of Ingenio, Topacio, San Juli=E1n   
and Agua Bonita, in the municipality of San Rafael in Antioquia, are            
being carried out by troops in the Barbacoas Heroes Battalion; more             
precisely, by members of  the Rancho de Lata military base dressed as=20        
paramilitaries.                                                             

2.      We accuse General Carlos Alberto Ospina Ovalle, Commander of the        
Army's IV Brigade, of managing or scheming these murders, which have            
already provoked the massive displacement of the population.                    
                                                                                
3.      We call on Human Rights Defendor NGOs, on the Catholic Church, on the   
International Red Cross, the Attorney General, and the Press to                 
intervene so the IV Brigade will respect Human Rights and end their             
attacks against the civilian population.                                        
                                                                                
COMMAND OF THE 9 FRONT OF THE FARC-EP                                           
The Mountains of Antioquia, April 1998                                          
                                                                                
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