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Ghulaam Ghawth - 12/25/00 09:21:29
My Email:ghulaamghawth@yahoo.co.uk

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Thank you for further showing how ignorant the heretical wahhaabee sect is and how much they lie. For answers to the slanders on this site, please visit: sunnah.org and then topics. The wahhaabee sect has no link through reliable and pious people going back to the Holy Prophet (sallallaahu `alayhi wa sallam). Their Islaam goes to ignoramus heretics like, king fahad and ibn saud, through to muhammad ibn `abdul-wahhaab an-najdee and from him to the british government of the 18th century. The wahhaabee's were the cause of the decline in the Ottoman Islamic Empire. The Ottoman Empire was based upon classical Islaam, which had always been preserved in the Soofee tareeqa's. The power from this gave the Ottoman and all of the other Islaamic states victory over the kuffaar. Then when people like the wahhaabee's, kamal attaturk, qaadiyaanee's, zionists and communists came, they decided to destroy the tareeqa's as this is what gave the Muslims strength. Their plan has succeeded to a certain extent, which is why the Muslims are in a lot of trouble all over the world. But the tareeqa's have started reviving again, which is why ignoramuses like the owner of this web site are being paid by mossad, the cia and fbi to divide and destroy the Muslims again. It will not work though, as Allah Ta`aalaa has stated: jaa al-Haqqu wa zahaqul-baaTilu - Undoubtedly, truth will vaquish falsehood. All of the jihaadi movements of the past were made up of soofee's, which is why we were successful. Most of the Afghan's fighting against the old ussr were all soofee's. The wahhaabee's from saudi arabia only came later. They were backed by the cia to fight russia. However, now that they have found out that Usama ibn Ladin is a soofee, they have once again got together and even with russia to try and assasinate Usama bin Ladin and persecute and Afghan's. May Allah in this blessed month give us soofee's like those of the past to breath life into the Ummah - AAMEEN bi jaahi Muhammadin (Sallallaahu `alayhi wa sallam). as-salaamu `alaykum Ghulam

Abdullah - 12/12/00 21:40:22

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Asalamu Alaykum. Mashallah brothers please keep up your good work. Don't worry about these stupid ignorant people who don't know anything about Islam but want unite Muslims on Bidah and Shirk. It is great that at least some Muslims are working to make the Ummah aware of the Mushriks of today. There is only one true way and correct path which is to follow the Qur`aan and the Sunnah according to the Understandings of the Salaf Us Salih. And by the way, for those people who don't know who the Salaf are, they re one's most closest to the prophet (SAW), the one's who witnessed the actions and sayings of the prophet(SAW). Subhanallah it's so weird and so stupid that people don't want to follow the Sahabahs teachings but instead insist on following the teachings f Mushriks. The only people who will not follow the salaf are Shia's (disbelievers) so I presume that everyone who attacked this web site is a shia. May Allah guide you all and show you the correct path. And those people who want peace and unity???? Peace with the Mushriks and non believers? Go and and study Islam before posting pathetic and nonsense messages. It just shows how ignorant you people are. The Salafees are funded by Saudi? And who told you that?? erm.... let me guess! It was probably non Muslims or some Naqshbandi or sufi. And you ignorant people are forgetting that your tax contributions goes to the defence of the land of Kuffar in which y u are sitting, and your money helps kill Muslims around the world. Think Think Think Before attacking those Muslims who want to spread the true message of Islam. And by the way through the understandings of the Salaf (the best of generations) and not thr ugh the understandings of your peer saabs or your Imam down the road, who practices bidah and shirk. O Muslims! Come to you senses and help your brothers to save the Muslim Ummah from all these Mushrikeens who claim to be Muslims. They are worse than the Kuffar. Help your brothers to make the Muslim Ummah aware of those people who are inventing their own religions and label it "ISlam". Why do you think that Muslims are in trouble all over the world? It's because Muslims are disobeying Allah. And how do you obey Allah? You obey him by ahdering to the Qur`aan and the Sunnah accoring to the understandings of the Sahabahs, the students of t e sahaba's and the students of the students (The Salaf). And NOT through the understandings of one's own intellect! May Allah guide us all and destroy these Mushrikeens. None has the right to be worshipped except Allah, Muhammed is the LAST and FINAL messenger of Allah. Wasalaam

Khayril Kamil - 12/04/00 08:18:59

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For those calling themselves 'People following Salafus-Salih' Please correct the manner of Saudi Royal Families (who are the promotor of Salafi movement) first before slandering other muslims. Don,t you think it is much better to distribute their wealth to poor Muslim countries instead of wasting money for women and wine in Europe and USA.

sunni muslim - 12/02/00 01:11:25

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Check your wahabi/salafis aqeedah first before attacking others! What is wrong rceiving tabarruk from the prophet's hair! The sahaba used to do it!At least they the naqsh, don't ascribe copereal/physical body to Allah azza wajalla!

Majadeeb - 11/30/00 05:55:18

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Don't you guys have something better to do!! You guys are a disgrace to the whole Ummah.

HARRY KRISHNA - 11/12/00 17:58:34
My URL:http://WWW.THE-HEART.NET

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Anyone who was wandering the stinking depths of this web toilet may be relieved to find this light at the end of the tunnel. www.the-heart.net Thanks for the free advertising you silly billies!

- 11/11/00 09:22:23
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A7MAD AL QUBRUSI - 11/11/00 04:40:57
My Email:al_qubrusi@hotmail.com

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As salaamu alaykum Please read: Satan - 03/06/99 02:20:19 My URL:http://hell.com My Email:satan@hell.com Comments: Thanks to the effort of one my servant in disguise of Human. He is doing a good job by spreading the false hood. Once again i thank Amir Butler[Devil in disguise of Human] ! Amir I'll see you in Hell. ================================================== As salaamu alaykum Is this the level of what some people stoop down to? Fear Allaah people, what benefit is there in such stupidity? You seriously beleive this is the adaab of the Prophet (saws) and his companions? Do you think for one minute that Allaah is rewarding you for these comments? The Quraan and the Sunnah that came with it are well established, i make a challange to anyone to e-mail me proof or proofs against the Salaafiyyaah and I ask please, dont give me idle speech but i take islaam seriously, so i wanted authentic evidences based on the Quraan or Sunnaah or Ijma of the Salaaf or ALL of them alltogether. I thank you all for your time... P.S. To this 'Satan', it maybe that you may end up in hell for immitating the Kuffaar, wallaahu alaam (Only Allaah really knowns) Was salaamu alaykum muslims

A7MAD AL QUBRUSI - 11/11/00 04:29:23
My Email:al_qubrusi@hotmail.com

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As salaamu alaykum muslims Dear whosoever read this text here, I would like to ask everyone and anyone that is reading this a question...and also make a comment {Question} It is clear that the Sufis label the Salaafis who grab onto the teachings of the Salaaf us Saleeh [1st 3 generations of the muslims] as 'kaafirs', however what i wanted to know is; can a muslim be called a kaafir when he has proof for him/herse f? (ie: Proof - Evidences based on the Quraan, Sunnah and the Ijmaa of the Sahabbaah). If ALL salaafis are kaafirs, then one must accept that ALL of Saudi Arabia is filled with kaafirs, (all except few in percentage) thus Ibraheem (Alayhis Salaam)'s duaa that he made in the Quraan had not been accepted, becuase He (Alayhis Salaam) asked All ah to make this place (Makkah as known today) a place with beleivers, so if the Sufis claim is true, then they possibly unknowingly are saying that Allaah had not accepted the Duaa of his prophet and messenger Ibraheem Ibn Azar (Alayhis Salaam). If anyone disagrees, please feel free to e-mail me and provide authentic proof, for it is the Salaafi way to accept proof even if it goes against what any Salaafi knows to be correct, so please feel free. Jazaakumullaahu khayral jazza, Was salaamu alaykum

Abdullah Malik - 10/05/00 18:02:07
My Email:MALIKAE@sbu.ac.uk

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salam waliakum brothers & sisters, it truly appears form reading the guest book, that no true love and the reallity of true islam has penetrated your rock hearts and dull your brains, salaams should be given to the all prophets and saints as much as possi le along with five pillers of islam, tariqat means path, one should seek out a holy person high in station, to learn to kill the ego first and replace it with the love of Allah, then perhaps muslims could be united with true peace and harmony. So stop being a square head and fight the jihad within your self. may Allah bless sheikh Nazim and all the saints of all tariqats specially the nasqhbandi.

Servant of Allah,His Rasool and Awliya-Allah - 09/29/00 10:12:49

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It astonishes me how we muslims are our own enemy.We don't need the West to destroy us cause our own people are doing a splendid job,much so,that the West step back and ridicule us.You must really disrespect our Prophet(SAW) to go as far as slandering his family (Ahle-Baite).Go and trace the lineage of Sheikh Nazim and you'll find that he is a Syed,family of Allahs beloved Apostle.Thousands of people have embraced Islam and pledged allegiance to Allah throgh his example and you criticise this?Have you conf onted both Sheikh Nazim and Sheikh Kabbani,taking all the information and then condemming and criticising..Is it not a proper muslims duty to derive information from the party accused and then giving a verdict.The fact that you have not confronted either heikhs goes to show that :"empty vessels make the most noise",you know nothing about anything and yet you think you know so much.If you really want to make yourself heard,have a debate with Sheikh,or have you already made excuses how he did not accept... I beg people who are muslims and who are interested in Islam not to believe what this website contains or what this writer says.It is onesided and the so-called proof that he has given are from sources taken from unreliable sources.....whatever sect the w iter belongs to,and whatever mission he is involved with to break-up the muslims,he will not succeed,for Allah (SWT) will not allow it.I pray that the people who share his view may open their hearts and come on the path of Truth as they are terribly misgu ded.Islam is a religion of Love,Peace and a way of life NOT what you have made it out to be....Allah-u-AKBAR

Ahmad Siddiqi Salafi - 09/24/00 08:12:54
My URL:http://jihadlinks.cjb.net
My Email:HE_MAIL@pakistans.com

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When cult members say "Haq haq" you write title as "woof".When the say "Hayee Hayee" you write "OINK" . What they do is wrong - A BID'AA but what you have written is also wrong it is disrespect of Allah's name.Ihave myself heard SUFIS in Pakistan saying HAQ HAQ. pLEASE CHANGE TITLE

dawoud - 09/23/00 04:32:50
My Email:dsm632@hotmail.com

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salaam aleykum. hey brothers , how about worshipping Allah ? do you bros. know what that is? how much is the saudi government paying you to do all these? or perhaps the jews? ,may Allah have mercy on all of you, you people are sick, very sick on the heart calling kafirs anyone who does not believe in the twisted ideas of your self made fatwas is no reason whatsoever for it. you bros, should repent before Allah takes you, its a heavy price to pay. with a sorrowing heart.dm

- 08/23/00 01:06:56

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You sad bunch, you are to be pitied.

Abu Waleed - 08/18/00 22:39:30

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I belive not all sufis are like Kabbani. if you assosite or invoke others then Allah you are commiting a sirk, no doubt in my mind Kabbani is agent of CIA. keep up the good work and keep exposing this hypocrits.

Abu Kabbani/ Abu Nazim - 06/29/00 10:49:49

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May Allah reward you for your efferts against these shayateen. In every century after their inception it was their way to fight Islam and its people. This is fight of theirs is backed by the allies of Shaytaan. They are waging an IDEOLOGICAL STRUGGLE against Allah and His allies. May Allah guide the Naqshabandis or break their backs.

Abu Abdulghani - 06/23/00 12:05:21

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As-salamu alaikum, As far as I know it, the Prophet peace be upon him never uttered an insult even against a Kafir. If someone wants to give advice (nasiha) to Muslims, it should be in a proper and clean way. Insulting others, regardless of their belief and faith, is a pr of of a spirit that does not follow the same path of the Prophet (peace be upon him.) If you those who posted this site wish to clarify the truth about Naqshabandis for the sake of the TRUTH, and not for the sake of their bias, then probably they should emove all insulting words. You may be surprised to know that Imam ibn Taymiyyah explained that there is "good" Sufism and "bad" Sufism. Not all Naqshabandis are devils. The Sufi sects were the reason why Islam remained under the communist rules in the Ex-Soviet Union during its d rkest days. One should give them credit for that. If we see something we believe to be wrong, we'd better start a dialog and not start trading names. When Allah (subhanahu wa ta'ala) sent Moses and Aaron (peace be upon them) to the worst Kafir: the Pha oah, he told them to talk mildly to him. That is the way of those seeking the truth. Salam.

Ibn 'Arab - 06/07/00 10:51:12

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The depths you have sunked to to refute the Naqshbandis just goes to show how astray you really are. You are one to be pitied.

Muslim - 05/30/00 21:39:22

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Asalamu Alaykum to all Muslims (not Naqshbandees) The reason why you saw an articles about Humza Yusuf attacking the devil Kabaani even though Humza Yusuf partcipated in their farewell gathering is basically because the gathering took place in 1997 after which Humza Yusuf attacked Kabaani due to what he xperienced from the gathering. Obviously the stuff performed had nothing to do with Islaam. So there you go, that's the simple reason. Of course!, the Nasqhbandees won't take it off their site as they want to trap people and then pull them along into the ell Fire with them. Waslaam May Allah protect us all from these deviated people. The Naqshdaneeds should start reading up Islaam.

Abu Hamza al-afghan - 05/30/00 19:49:22
My Email:albaani@hotmail.com

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Salaam Alaikum .. Very beneficial site, Allah Musta'an, JazaKallah Khair. A lot of evidence collated to refute once and for all refute one of the many sufy tareeqas/cults. In Response to Kevin below, the Article about The deviant HAMZA YUSUF is infact authentic. If you s arch the inernet for a while, you will see the article from them, their side in its original... salaamalaikum.

. - 05/29/00 20:03:05

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May Allah bless the truth seekers. we are caught in a world of severe media and political deception everywhere we go. there is a hadith about the end of days in which unfit leaders will assume positions. kabbani is one of them.

Kevin Hogue - 05/22/00 15:17:15
My Email:khaque6@visto.com

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Hello, The information which you have collected on Mr. Kabbani seems rather impressive. However, looking over some of your links I came across a press release by Hamza Yusuf condemning Kabbani. I find this rather odd considering the two were very close in the p st, in fact they both attended the farewell for Sheikh Khatry which I was at, here is a link from that occassion: http://naqshbandi.org/events/shKhatry/khatry.htm Can someone please explain?

HAJJI MUHAMMAD - 05/13/00 01:20:56

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HAJJI MUHAMMAD - 05/13/00 01:20:45

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A Muslim - 04/29/00 12:35:50

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Asalamu Alaykum (To the True Muslim bro's and sis) Just a message to the sufi geezer and Osama and the other deviated people, LEAVE THE BROTHER ALONE! You can't face the truth and reality??? You kinda people have to be exposed and the UNISLAMIC activities your practice (which has got nothign to do with th deen of Al-Islaam)have to be stopped. Muslims should know what kinda crap you follow so that they won't burn in the HELL FIRE along with you deviated people. The brother of this web site is doing an excellent job in guiding Muslims to the truth and keepi g them away from you deviated people. May Allah reward the brother of this site. If you are reading this message bro (the one who did this site) just carry on with your excellent work. Don't worry about these pathetic people who are all mouth and no trous rs and pray to Allah that HE May guide them to the truth. The one Allah guides, No one can misguide, the one Allah Misguides, No one can guide. These sufi and Naqshbandhi etc people are obviously the misguided one's. The one true sect that will be the successful one on the day of judgement will be the one who stick to the teachings of the Salaf. Wasalam.

Abdullah - 04/28/00 23:06:20

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Asalamu Alaykum Brother, Mashallah your doing a great job with this web site which has got to be the most authentic Islaamic information web site I've been to so far. Keep up the good work and don't worry about these KAFIR's who write really stupid things on the Message board wit out having sufficient knowledge of Islaam. May Allah guide them All, and without doubt they need to be guided. And for the so-called Immature Muslims (the hypocrites) who swear on the Message boards, they might as well go and learn their deen first and then think about posting messages. May Allah reward you for your efforts brother and may Allah guide all these deviated people who will burn in hell if they don't repent for their sins. Asalamu Alaykum Wa Rahmatullahi Wa Barakatahu.

SUFI - 04/24/00 14:50:09
My URL:http://iamgonnakillu.com
My Email:killthewebmasterofthissite

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YOU FUCKIN IDIOT!! I AM GOING TO KILL YOU!! AND EVERYONE YOU KNOW!!! NONE CAN PROTECT YOU!

Ibn Abbaas - 04/04/00 14:48:21
My URL:http://www.islaam.com
My Email:salafy2000@email.com

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As salaamu alaykum Brother may Allaah reward you for the efforts you have gone to, I believe providing this stuff wasnt easy so I hope Allaah rewards you for it. As for the shayateen amongst man and jinn (we see of the men here in this sites message board) they have to learn islaam and study the principles of Tawheed, if we look at all the scholars (real scholars) we see they all agreed. The sufi bandits lack in Tawheed Al Uloohiyyah, they have left the worship of the only God (Allaah) for all kinds of dieties (Nazim Al Qubrusi [Kaafir] is one). There are many Sufi/Asharee web sites that claim that Nazim (the Kaafir) Al Qubrusi negates is aam, I agree with these people especially when Nazim has allowed the eating of swine as is in his book authored by him and Iblees, he says that it is incorrect to tell the kaafirs you vivsit if they invite you to eat Pork that you say to them that you can eat it, but that you should seek istaghfir, Authoobillaah Nazim Al kaafir should seek forgiveness, thats if he really ever believed in Allaah! He has no right to make Halaal into Haraam and vice versa for this was made clear in a sound hadeeth. where the prophet (saws) recited Surat At Tawbaah (9) ayah 30-31 [the Jews and Christians have taken their Rabbis and Preists as Lords besides Allaah] in which Adi Ibn Hateem (Radi-Allaahu-An-Hu) said 'We did not use to worship them" for where the prophet (saws) d d you not make Halaal what Allaah had made haraam? and make what Allaah had made halaal, haraam? and Adi ibn hateem (Radi-Allaahu-An-Hu) replied "certainly", then the prophet Muhammad (saws) said 'This was your worrship of them" (Abu dawood, Tirmithi). The hadeeth above clearly shows the reader that those who make halaal into haraam and vice versa are mushriks/false taghoot, and also those who obey Nazim after he has made haraam into halaal (Only Allaah is the judge) are guilty of Major Shirk (Shirk Al loohiyyah -Ibaadaah). The evidences go on and on and on, I do not think we could go over even a tenth of the evidences. As for the Ahlul Bidaah, kuffaar and jahils who have made threats and hoped their brother in islaam to burn in hell and lebeled him a kaafir without 'clear kufr' as the prophet (saws) said let them know, they most likely (themselves) are kaafirs, and Alla h knows best! P.S. i am a wahhaabi so label me kaafir and most likely you will become one, so I advise you jahmiyyah/asharee/sufi/mushrik/jahils to remember the a muslim is balanced, where we make takfeer if its clear, for not to call a kaafir a kaafir is Kufr Al Akbaa whilst calling a muslim a kaafir as Muhamamd (saws) said, 'One of them is a kaafir". Was salaamu alaykum

Abu Ayesha Ifthikar Mackeen - 02/29/00 18:15:12
My URL:http://www.hidaayah.org
My Email:hidaayah@slt.lk

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Dear Brother Assalamu Alaikum Warahmatullaahi Wabarakaathuhu Please send us all the latest updates on Snake Kabbani as blind followers have started printing the The Muslim Newsletter here in Sri Lanka taking the opportunity of attacking all of us...Now the time has come to strike back again after our two books. Everything is well and I look forward to your response. Abu Ayesha Ifthikar Mackeen

april read - 02/27/00 08:47:36
My Email:peter.l.read.@talk21

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I like your web site and I think you should have more quizs.

SALEEM - 02/27/00 08:01:23

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I SHOULD START OF WITH A SALAAM BUT I AM NOT, BECAUSE ONE MUSLIM IS PROHIBTED FROM GIVING SALAAM TO A'kafir' SO THAT MEANS I AM NO T ALLOWED TO GIVE U SALAAM CAUSE U HAVE DONE A JOB OF A KAAFIR. READ UR SHAHADA AND ALL OF U WHO AGREE WITH THE PERSON WHO AS WROTE ALL THESE LIES. I HAVE DEBATED WITH ALOT OF ILLITRATE PEOPLE LIKE U LOT. I HOPE ALL OF U WHO AGREE WITH THE AUTHOR , BURN IN HELL WITH THE AUTHOR. p.s. INSHA ALLAH

SALEEM - 02/27/00 07:58:56

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I SHOULD START OF WITH A SALAAM BUT I AM NOT, BECAUSE ONE MUSLIM IS PROHIBTED FROM GIVING SALAAM TO A'kafir' SO THAT MEANS I AM NO T ALLOWED TO GIVE U SALAAM CAUSE U HAVE DONE A JOB OF A KAAFIR. READ UR SHAHADA AND ALL OF U WHO AGREE WITH THE PERSON WHO AS WROTE ALL THESE LIES. I HAVE DEBATED WITH ALOT OF ILLITRATE PEOPLE LIKE U LOT. I HOPE ALL OF U WHO AGREE WITH THE AUTHOR , BURN IN HELL WITH THE AUTHOR. p.s. INSHA ALLAH

felicia - 02/24/00 21:41:24
My Email:mumin75@collegeclub.com

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This site has so much information for a person interested in knowing more about Islam, like myself. I thank you all who have made it this way.

Mahmuwd - 02/17/00 00:51:17
My URL:http://www.oocities.org/mahmuwd/islam.html
My Email:mahmuwd@hotmail.com

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Salaam, This a very interesting web site. I just stop by to say peace. And May ALLAH guide us to the right path if we are misguide and may he keep us on the path if we are guided. salaam, Mahmuwd PS> check out my web site http://www.oocities.org/mahmuwd/islam.html

- 02/08/00 15:31:32

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Abu Bakr al-Ghazzee as-Salafee - 02/04/00 05:31:27
My Email:alghazzee@hotmail.com

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i would like to apologize for every one for posting a huuuuuuuge message on this site's guestbook! it is the one about the jahmi Nuh Keller, may Allah destroy him. i wanted to post it at some Sufi site's guestbook, and i seem to have opened the wrong wind w and posting the article in the wrong site! i just realized that! so, apology to Amir, founder of this great site! Plz, remove my long msg cuz it is out of context here. sorry again bro and muslims.

Abu Bakr al-Ghazzee as-Salafee - 01/08/00 11:41:08
My Email:alghazzee@hotmail.com

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A Reply to the Jahmee "Nuh Ha Mim Keller" Foreword All Praise is due to Allaah, we praise Him, seek His aid and His Forgiveness. We seek refuge in Allaah from the evils of our souls and the evils of our actions. Whomsoever Allaah guides there is none to misguide and whomsoever Allaah misguides there is no e to guide. I bear witness that there is none worthy of worship except Allaah, alone, without any partners and I bear witness that Muhammad is His servant and messenger. O you who believe! Fear as He should be feared, and die not except in a state of Islaam (as Muslims) with complete submission to Allaah. [Aali Imraan 3:103] O mankind! Be dutiful to your Lord, Who created you from a single person (Adam), and from him (Adam) He created his wife [Hawwa (Eve)], and from them both He created many men and women and fear Allaah through Whom you demand your mutual (rights), and (do ot cut the relations of) the wombs (kinship). Surely, Allaah is Ever an All­Watcher over you. [An-Nisaa 4:1] O you who believe! Keep your duty to Allaah and fear Him, and speak (always) the truth. He will direct you to do righteous good deeds and will forgive you your sins. And whosoever obeys Allaah and His Messenger (sallallaahu alaihi wasallam) he has indeed chieved a great achievement (i.e. he will be saved from the Hell-fire and made to enter Paradise). [Al-Ahzaab 33:70-71] Introduction Al-Haafidh Taqee ud-Deen Abu Muhammad Abdul-Ghaniyy al-Maqdisee (d. 600H) - may Allaah have mercy upon him - said: "And know - may Allaah have mercy upon you - that Islaam and its people are attacked and destroyed by three groupings: 1) A group who reject the hadeeth pertaining to the Attributes of Allaah and who reject their narrators. They are more harmful to Islaam and its adherents than the Disbelievers. 2) A group who speak with the authenticity of these hadeeth and accept them, but they perform Ta'weel (figurative interpolation) of them. They are mightier in their harm than the first group. 3) And the third group, those who avoid the above two sayings, and begin - as they claim - to purify Allaah from all imperfections (tanzeeh) - but in fact they are liars, and this leads them to the very same above two sayings. So they are more harmful tha the first two groups."[2] Abu Uthmaan as-Saaboonee (d. 449H) - may Allaah have mercy upon him - said: "And along with that they [the Salaf who have passed before him] unanimously agreed with their saying about the Ahl ul-Bid'ah, that they should be subdued, humiliated and disgrace , banished and driven away. That [one must] keep away from them, from those who associate with them and from those who are intimate with them. And to seek nearness to Allaah by avoiding them and fleeing from them."[3] He also said: "...That they should not occupy themselves with these newly-invented matters from among the innovations, which have become widespread amongst the Muslims [and likewise, the detestable things which] have appeared and become popular [amongst t e people]. And if a single one of these matters appeared upon the tongue of anyone in the time of those Scholars, then they would have forsaken him, would have declared him an innovator, called him a liar and would have attributed to him, every evil and l athsome thing. Let not my Brothers - may Allaah protect them - be deceived by the abundance of the Ahl ul-Bid'ah (the People of Innovation) and their large numbers [for verily, the abundance of the people of falsehood and the small number of the people of Truth is a sig of the approach of the Day of Truth], since the Chosen Messenger (sallallaahu alaihi wasallam) said: "Indeed, amongst the signs of the Hour and its being close at hand, is that knowledge will diminish and ignorance will be widespread."[4] And knowledge is the Sunnah and ignorance is Bid'ah."[5] End of his words - may Allaah have mercy upon him. And Shaikh ul-Islaam Ibn Taymiyyah (d. 728H) - may Allaah have mercy upon him - said: "And such as the People of Innovation among the people of the [innovated] sayings that oppose the Book and the Sunnah or the acts of worship opposing the Book and the Su nah - for exposing their condition and warning the Ummah about them is obligatory by unanimous agreement of the Muslims - until it was said to Imaam Ahmad bin Hanbal: "Is it more loved to you that a man fasts, prays and peforms tawaaf or that he speaks ab ut the People of Innovation [i.e. exposes them and warns about them]?" He replied: "When he stands, prays and performs tawaaf that is for himself but when he talks about the People of Innovation then that is for the Muslims and this is more excellent." So he explained that the benefit of this is for the Muslims in general - for [the protection of] their religion - and it is a form or jihaad in the Path of Allaah because the purification of the Path of Allaah, His Deen, His Minhaaj (methodology) and His Sha ee'ah, repelling the oppressors and having enmity towards them is obligatory with kifaayah (i.e. there must be some amongst the Muslims who do this otherwise all of them are sinful for neglecting this duty). And if it had not been for the one whom Allaah ad made to undertake this duty of repelling the harms of these people the Deen would have been corrupted and destroyed. And this corruption is greater than the corruption resulting from the domination of the enemies - amongst the people - who fight agains the Muslims (i.e. Disbelievers) - and this is because these people (the disbelievers) when they dominate and conquer the Muslims, do not corrupt the hearts or whatever faith is contained within them except as a consequence, after time. As for these (the eople of Innovation) then they corrupt the hearts right from the very beginning (i.e. since they corrupt the Deen itself)."[6] And Zaa'idah bin Qudaamah said: " I said to Mansoor bin al-Mu'tamir: When I am fasting can I revile the Ruler? He said: No. I then said: Then can I revile the People of Desires (i.e. Innovators)? He said: Yes."[7] Al Hasan al-Basree (d. 110H) said: "There are three - in the backbiting of whom there is no inviolability - one of them being a person of innovation who is immersed in his innovation, propagating it."[8] The Reply to the Neo-Jahmite It will become clear - by the permission of Allaah - that the Jahmiyyah - as they have always been, and in whatever way they disguise themselves - are either ignorant or pretending to be ignorant of the Arabic language, seeking to deny what Allaah, the Mo t High, and His Messenger (sallallaahu alaihi wasallam) affirmed with regard to His Attributes, and wickedly inventing lies against those whom Allaah has favoured with knowledge - attributing their own Jahmee beliefs to them and seeking to refute the trut with falsehood in order to misguide the common folk, vilify the Salaf and the People of Knowledge and to raise high the banner of innovation: And Allaah will certainly perfect His light even though the Disbelievers may detest it [Soorah Saff 61:8] The person in question - about whose being a Jahmee there is no doubt - it is clear that he is merely transmitting what others with these wicked beliefs have said, such as Muhammad Alee Saaboonee, Abdullaah al-Habashi, Muhammad Sa'eed Ramadaan al-Bootee a d others at the present time. Many works have been written in refutation of these deviant beliefs from the earliest times until the present day. This Jahmee seeks - by giving false and baseless examples - to justify the madhhab of ta'weel and tafweedh wit respect to the Attributes of Allaah and then to describe them as being the way of the Salaf in understanding the Attributes - examples whose futility and falsehood is evident to those whom Allaah has favoured with the path of Ahl us-Sunnah, the Ashaabul- adeeth, the Salaf us-Saalih. What this Jahmee has propounded is nothing new - but only a regurgitation of the Ahl ul-Bid'ah of old - those accusing the Salaf of being anthropomorphists on account of their acceptance of, and faith in the narrations of the Messenger (sallallaahu alaihi wasallam), as they have came, without rejecting them or distorting them. The accusation of anthropomorphism against the Salaf is an ancient legacy, and the Scholars of the Salaf refuted it and spoke about it in the earliest of times. Imaam Abu Haatim ar-Raazee (d. 277H) said: "A sign of the Jahmiyyah is that they call the Ahl us-Sunnah 'Mushabbihah' (Anthropomorphists)."[9] Abu Uthmaan as-Saaboonee (d. 449H) stated - about the distinguishing signs of Ahl ul-Bid'ah: "...naming them [i.e. Ahl us-Sunnah]with Hashawiyyah (Worthless People), Jahalah (the Ignorant), Dhaahiriyyah (Literalists) and Mushabbihah (Anthropomorphists)... [10] Alee bin al-Madeenee - the teacher of Imaam Bukhaaree - said: "When someone says so and so is an anthropomorphist (mushabbih) we come to know he is a Jahmee".[11] Therefore, the path of this neo-Jahmite whose condition we shall discuss, is but a legacy of the Jahmiyyah of old. But this will be hidden to the unsuspecting common person, who lacks knowledge and realisation, thereby thinking that this neo-Jahmite is ri htly guided and that he guides others. But in reality the path of this Jahmee leads directly to the home of torment and punishment because the Jahmee is in fact standing by the gates of Hellfire, inviting the common-folk to it that they maybe its inhabita ts. And whoever considers what is to follow in uncovering the treachery and deception of this ignoramus and makes comparison between the words and statements of this Jahmee with those of the Imaams of the Salaf of the earliest times will see clearly that his Jahmee is but a caller to mere innovation, folly, foolishness and misguidance. And an explanation of some of the proofs that the aforementioned Jahmee used for his false claims and conclusions is as follows: Firstly: The Jahmee's Allegation about the saying of Allaah the Most High: Those who take their deen as play and amusement and whom the life of this world has deceived, then this day shall We forget them as they forgot the meeting of this day of theirs [A'raaf 7:51] That it means that Allaah forgets, i.e. suffers from forgetfulness - High is Allaah above what the Innovators attribute to Him - and that this is a saying of the Salafees, or something necessitated by their methodology in understanding the texts of the Bo k and the Sunnah[12] - then this a lie against them and against Allaah, rather this is an explanation invented by the Jahmee and the Salaf and their followers are free from it. If the Jahmee tries to claim: But the Salafees say that they only accept the manifest, apparent meaning of aayaat and reject (mis)-interpretation (ta'weel), then the reply is that if the Jahmee was not so ignorant or did not pretend to be so ignorant of t e Arabic language then he would know that the manifest meaning of the aayah is not the evil saying that he insinuates would be necessitated by the methodology of the Salaf. Rather the word nansaahum (We shall forget them...) comes from the root nasiya, ya saa which can mean either to deliberately leave/abandon, or to forget and fail to remember. The meaning in this aayah is very clear and manifest and it is not ta'weel (figurative interpolation) to say that the aayah means that Allaah abandons them - rathe this is the manifest (dhaahir) meaning of the aayah, in full agreement with the Arabic language - as anyone with knowledge of it will know.[13] This is naturally the tafseer given by the aayah by at-Tabaree: "We will abandon them in the punishment which cuts them off, leaving them hungry and thirsty without any food or drink, just as they abandoned action for the meeting on this Day, and they rej cted preparation for it by wearying their bodies in obedience to Allaah, and we have explained clearly the meaning of His saying 'nansaahum' previously along with its witnesses, so there is no need to repeat it." Amongst the narrations which he then quotes from the Salaf with this meaning is: Muhammad ibn Abdul A'laa narrated to us saying: Muhammad ibn Thawr narrated to us: from Ma'mar: from Ibn Abee Najeeh: from Mujaahid: that he said: "We will abandon them just as they abandoned this meeting of theirs" and Muhammad bin Amr narrated to me say ng: Aboo Aasim narrated to us saying: Eesaa narrated to us: from Ibn Abee Najeeh: from Mujaahid: who said: "We will leave/abandon them in the Fire" The same meaning is made clear in al-Baghawee and Ibn Katheer in their tafseers However, the aforementioned Jahmee seeks to claim that at-Tabaree's explanation of the meaning of 'nansaahum' as being 'We shall forget them, so as to say, We shall abandon them to their punishment' is an instance of ta'weel.[14] And this is clear decepti n, since - as has been explained above - the meaning giving by at-Tabaree is actually from the Arabic language and is not a matter of figurative interpolation which the Jahmee has wickedly and unashamedly ascribed to at-Tabaree - innocent is at-Tabaree fr m this Jahmee as the innocence of Aa'ishah - may Allaah be pleased with her - from the slander perpetrated against her.[15] Secondly, the point that Ibn ul-Qayyim - may Allaah have mercy upon him - explains in Ijtimaa ul-Juyoosh and in Mukhtasaarus-Sawaa'iq (1/34-37) that Allaah has two Eyes. Then he explains that this is the position of the Salaf. He quotes Abu Hasan al-Ash'a ee who states: "And He has two eyes without any mention of how, just as He said: Floating under Our Eyes [Soorah Qamar 54:14]"[16] Ibn ul-Qayyim says: "So al-Ash'aree and others do not understand from the plural: a'yun (eyes) many eyes, nor from the plural 'aidee' (hands) many hands..."[17] Ibn Hajr also mentions[18] that al-Bayhaqee mentions a witness to the hadeeth of Abu Hurairah - [i.e. the hadeeth reported by Aboo Daawood that the Prophet (sallallaahu alaihi wasallam) recited Soorah an-Nisaa, aayah 58 and read up to: 'Sameean Baseeraa', and placed his thumb on his ear and the one next to it upon his eye][19] - from the hadeeth of Uqbah bin Aamir: I heard Allaah's Messenger (sallallaahu alaihi wasallam) say upon the minbar: "Our Lord certainly hears and sees" and he pointed to his two eye " Ibn Hajr says: Its isnaad is hasan. [20] That Allaah the Most High has Two Eyes - in the manner that befits Him and without any resemblance to the creation - is also stated by ad-Daarimee in his reply upon Bishr al-Maarisee and by Ibn Khuzaimah in his Kitaabut-Tawheed and by al-Laalikaa'ee in Sh rh Usool il-I'tiqaad. So the Salafees follow and accept the aqeedah of the Salaf and there is no contradiction or ta'weel here. Thirdly, concerning the Jahmee's lie against Allaah - the Most High - and His saying: And we constructed the Heaven with power (bi aidin)... [Dhaariyaat 51:47] The tafseer of Tabaree and the reports that the Jahmee quotes from the Salaf explain 'aidin' to mean 'power' which is what it indeed does mean and it can be found in any dictionary under alif yaa daa. Nor is there any contradiction between it and between ayaat affirming Allaahs Hands (aidee and yadaan) Do they not see that We have created for them of what Our Hands (aideena) have created... [Soorah Yaa Seen 36:71] Nay, both His Hands (yadaahu) are outstretched [Soorah Maa'idah 5:64] So from the foolishness of the Ash'ariyyah - to which this Jahmee ascribes himself - is that they also declare that Allaah's Hand (yad) has to be explained to mean his Power!! So then what about His Two Hands?! Two powers?![21] Furthermore, this is rebutted by the aayah where it is mentioned that Allaah created Adam with His Two Hands. Abu Hasan al-Ash'aree stated in his Maqaalaat: "...And that He has Two Hands without asking how, just as He has said: (Allaah said): O Iblees! What prevents you from prostrating yourself to one whom I have created with My Two Hands?" [Soorah Sa'd 38:75] And also, the hadeeth of intercession where Aadam is being addressed as the one whom Allaah created with His Hand[22]. And likewise the hadeeth wherein it is mentioned that: "On the Day of Resurrection, Allaah will grasp the (whole planet of) Earth by His Hand all the heavens in His Right, and then He will say: I am the King".[23] But from the deception and corruption of this vile and lowly Jahmee is that in his lecture, he translated the aayah in question as: "And the sky, We have built with Hands, verily We outspread it." Translating 'aidin' as 'Hands' instead of 'power' (which is what it actually means in this verse) enabling himself thereby, to justify his falsehood that the Salaf have done ta'weel of this aayah because they explain it to mean 'with power' and by claimin that at-Tabaree has ascribed this figurative explanation (ta'weel) to Ibn Abbaas, Qataadah, Mansoor ibn Zadaana and Sufyaan ath-Thawree - free and innocent are they from the Jahmee's filth and the Jahmee and his filth from them, as Yoosuf (alaihi-salaam) was from the wife of al-Azeez. The Jahmee is obviously ignorant or feigning ignorance of the fact that 'aidin' in the language has the meaning of 'power'[24] and that this is the natural explanation given, which is devoid of any ta'weel, and which at-Taba ee has quoted from the Salaf.[25] Fourthly, with regard to the Jahmee's claim about the tafseer of the aayah : The Day that the shin shall be laid bare and they shall be summoned to bow in adoration but they shall not be able [Soorah Qalam 68:42] Then the aayah mentions the saaq (shin) which is one of the Attributes of Allaah - the Most High - This is clearly seen from the hadeeth of Abu Sa'eed al-Khudree[26] in which there occurs: "...Then the Almighty will come to them in a form other than that hich they saw the first time, and He will say "I am your Lord" and they will say:"You are not our Lord". And none will speak to Him but the Prophets, and it will be said to them: "Do you know of any sign by which you can recognise Him?" They will say: "Th shin (saaq)", so then Allaah will uncover His shin and every believer will prostrate to Him..." And with regard to the aforementioned Jahmee's claim about the saying of Ibn Abbaas - may Allaah be pleased with him - about the aayah: "It is the Day of Resurrection, a day of grief and calamity" reported with various chains from him by at-Tabaree in his tafseer, the Ash'ariyyah say that this is a case of ta'weel. This is however not the case since as is pointed out by Shaikh ul-Islaam Ibn Taymiyyah and mentioned by Shaikhs Muhammad Jameel Zainoo and Bakr ibn Abdullaah Aboo Zayd - the Salaf have two diffe ent sayings about this aayah: a) Those who say that it is not an aayah relating to Allaah's attributes, but is rather a description of the Day of Judgement and its being a day of grief and calamity - as is reported from Ibn Abbaas. This is based on the fact that the aayah does not clearly state the 'saaq' as being Allaah's saaq (shin) and that in the Arabic language this phrase can be used to express the severity of a situation as in the saying: 'Shaalat al-harbu an saaqin', meaning - the war has raised up its terrors and harshness. So since the aayah did not unequivocally declare this as being an Attribute of Allaah - some of the Salaf did not understand it to be an aayah describing one of His Attributes, which is why we find Ibn Abbaas [if the narrations are authentic from him][27] explaining it according to the language. Therefore this is not case of someone taking an established Attribute of Allaah, such as, for example His yad (hand) and interpreting it with ta'weel to mean something different eg. His Power which is what the Ash'ariyyah do and seek support with this say ng of Ibn Abbaas - may Allaah be pleased with him. So there is no proof for them in this. Furthermore: b) The correct saying as pointed out by Ibn Taymiyyah and others from the Salaf, including Abu Sa'eed al-Khudree who say that this aayah is an aayah relating to Allaah's Attributes. The proof for this is the hadeeth of Abu Sa'eed al-Khudree - may Allaah b pleased with him - where the 'saaq' is also mentioned, except that here it is clearly shown to be an Attribute of Allaah - (fayakshifu an saaqihi) - "so Allaah will uncover His Shin". So it is possible that this hadeeth did not reach Ibn Abbaas - just as the ruling that the grandmothers inherit did not reach Abu Bakr - may Allaah be pleased with him - and so on, and if it had reached him then he would have explained the aayah according to it.[28] Fifthly, concerning the hadeeth of the Messenger (sallallaahu alaihi wasallaam): "Allaah the Most High Laughs about two men, one of whom kills the other, but both will enter Paradise. The one who fights in the way of Allaah and is killed and afterwards Allaah forgives the killer, then he fights in the path of Allaah and is martyred." 29] Concerning this, the Jahmee ignoramus alleged, (further confirming his ignorance about the authenticity of the narrations): "The hadeeth master al-Bayhaqee records that the scribe of Bukhaaree, Muhammad ibn Yusuf al-Farabree, related that Imaam Bukhaaree aid quote, 'The meaning of Laughter is Mercy'". However, al-Bayhaqee mentions this statement[30] without quoting the chain of narration for it, something that this Jahmee failed to mention, knowing that it would render his falsehood futile. Therefore, it cannot be depended upon as indicated in the word of Abdullaah bin al-Mubaarak who said, "The isnaad is from the deen, were it not for the isnaad, whosoever willed could say whatever he wished."[31] Sixthly, with respect to the Jahmee's filthy lie concerning the saying of Allaah: And your Lord comes accompanied by the Angels, ranks upon ranks [Soorah Fajr 89:22] Then the Salaf have affirmed and held faith in the attribute of Allaah's Coming on the Day of Judgement in opposition to this Jahmee who seeks to deny it and explain it away. Ibn Katheer states in his tafseer[32] of this aayah: "The Lord - Blessed and Exa ted is He - comes as He wills, and the Angels come in front of Him, ranks upon ranks." Furthermore, Ibn Jareer at-Tabaree in his tafseer reports the following narrations from the Salaf in explanation of the aayah: Ad-Dahak said: "...the angels ascend in ranks of separate lines, then the Exalted King descends with Jahannam next to Him, on His left." Qataadah said: "... and Allaah comes on that Day with Jahannam." He also said: "Paradise and Hellfire are next to Him when descends from His Throne to His Kursee to reckon with His creation," and then he recited: ...and on the Day when Jahannam will be brought" [Soorah Fajr 89:23] Al-Haafidh Ibn Asaakir in his Tabyeen Kadhibul-Muftaree reports that Abu Hasan al-Ash'aree said: "We do not say about Allaah, that of which we have no knowledge and we say that Allaah, the Exalted, comes on the Day of Judgement as He said: And your Lord comes accompanied by the Angels, ranks upon ranks" [Soorah Fajr 89:22] [33] So it is clear that the Salaf affirm the Attribute of Coming[34] and that they do not interpolate it by claiming that it means the coming of His Judgement, or His Mercy and the likes.[35] So where does this neo-Jahmite, the Ibn Safwaan of the era, stand i comparison with the likes of ad-Dahak, Qataadah, and Hammaad bin Abu Haneefah, may Allaah shower his mercy upon them?? Where does this deceiving ignoramus stand with respect to those favoured with precedence, knowledge, piety and guidance?! Concerning the Jahmite's Allegation about Tafweed The aforementioned Jahmee also stated: "The real aqeedah of Imaam Ahmad was very simple and consisted mainly of tafweedh, that is to consign to Allaah the meaning of the mutashaabihaat - or unapparent meanings of the Qur'aan and Hadeeth..." - and this is wicked lie against Imaam Ahmad - free is Imaam Ahmad of the Jahmee as is the milk from dung and blood. Shaikh Muhammad bin Saalih al-Uthaimeen - may Allaah protect Him - said: "The aqeedah of Ahl us-Sunnah wal-Jamaa'ah, therefore, is free from tahreef and ta'teel. And by this we come to know misguidance or the lie of those who say: 'The way of the Salaf is tafweedh'. These people have gone astray if they have said this whilst being ignorant of the way of the Salaf and if they said that with knowledge, they have lied (deliberately). We can also say: They have lied in two ways: In the sense of the language of the Hijaaz, since kadhib (a lie) to the people of the Hijaaz is with the meaning of khata' (a mistake). And in any circumstance, there is no doubt that those who say: The madhhab of Ahl us-Sunnah is tafweedh - that they have erred because the madhhab of A l us-Sunnah is to affirm the meaning but to do tafweedh of its kaifiyyah (how it is). And let it be known that speaking with tafweedh - as Shaikh ul-Islaam Ibn Taymiyyah[36] has said - is amongst the most evil of the sayings of the Ahl ul-Bid'ah wal-Ilhaad. When a person hears about tafweedh he says: 'This is good, I will be safe from thes (people) and those (people). I will not speak with the madhhab of the Salaf and nor will I speak with the madhhab of those performing ta'weel, I will take the middle path and will be saved from all of this. And I will say: Allaah knows best, we do not kn w what its meaning is.' However Shaikh ul-Islaam says: "This is amongst the most evil of the sayings of Ahl ul-Bid'ah wal-Ilhaad". And he - may Allaah have mercy upon him - has spoken the truth. When you reflect upon it you will find that this necessitates (the following): a denial of the Qur'aan, that the Messenger (sallallaahu alaihi wasallam) was ignorant, and arrogance on behalf f the people of philosophy. A denial of the Qur'aan because Allaah says: And We have revealed to you (O Muhammad) the Book as an exposition of every single thing [Soorah Nahl 16:89] Where is the explanation in words whose meanings are not known?! And most of what has been mentioned in the Qur'aan are the Names of Allaah and His Attributes. If we do not know what their meanings are, is the Qur'aan an exposition for everything?! Where s the explanation?! These people are saying: 'The Messenger (sallallaahu alaihi wasallam) does not know the meanings of the Qur'aan with respect to what is related to the Names and Attributes'. And when the Messenger (sallallaahu alaihi wasallam) does not know then it is cer ain and foremost that those besides Him do not know. More amazing than that is that they say: 'The Messenger (sallallaahu alaihi wasallam) speaks about the Attributes of Allaah and he does not know what they mean. He says: 'O Allaah, our Lord Who is above the Sky' and when He is questioned about this he (sa lallaahu alaihi wasallam) says: 'I don't know!' And likewise regarding his saying: 'Our Lord descends to the lowest heaven...' and when he is asked about the meaning of 'Our Lord descends' he says: 'I don't know' and built upon this - the same can be said [for all the other Attributes]. And is there a greater slander of the Messenger (sallallaahu alaihi wasallam) than this? Rather this is amongst the biggest of slanders. A Messenger from Allaah sent to explain to mankind and yet he does not know the meaning of the aayaat of the Attribute and the ahaadeeth pertaining to them. And he is speaking with words whose meanings he does not know. So it [i.e. the evil of tafweedh] is from two aspects - a denial of the Qur'aan and ascribing ignorance to the Messenger (sallallaahu alaihi wasallam)"[3 ] End of his words - may Allaah have mercy upon him. It has already preceded - in the words of Imaam Maalik - which are "the balance for all of Allaah's Attributes"[38] - that the meaning of the Attributes are known but the kaifiyyah (how they are) is not.[39] Concerning Ta'weel Muhammad bin Abdul-Aleem Abul-Hammaam[40] of the University of al-Azhar said, after addressing the issue of interpolating istawaa (He ascended) to mean istawlaa (He conquered): "...And from this is the danger of ta'weel [i.e. that it necessitates the consideration of Allaah and His Messenger (sallallaahu alaihi wasallam) to have lied] and Ibn al-Qayyim explains that it [ta'weel] is more evil than ta'teel - which is merely "denyi g the Divine Attributes and rejecting their being established with the Self of Allaah (Dhaat) - the Most Perfect"41 - because it [ta'weel] contains both tashbeeh, ta'teel and also playing and fooling with the texts as well as having a bad opinion of them. The Mu'attil (denier of the Attributes) and the Mu'awwil (one who interpolates them) have shared [with each other] in the denial of the realities of the Names and Attributes but the Mu'awwil has exceeded in his playing and fooling with the texts and havin a bad opinion of them and also ascribing to the one who speaks with them - that he speaks with their apparent [meanings], that he is astray and leads others astray. Therefore, they have combined in [falling into] four dangers: [1] Their belief that what is manifest and apparent from the words of Allaah and His Messenger is impossible and is falsehood - therefore they have understood them to be tashbeeh (anthropomorphism) from the very beginning.[42] [2] They have denied the reality of their meanings on the basis that this is such an understanding that does not befit them and nor does it befit the Lord - the Most Perfect. [3] Ascribing to the speaker - the perfect in knowledge and elucidation (bayaan) and the perfect in giving advice - and that is Allaah, the Most Perfect - the opposite of elucidation (bayaan), guidance (hudaa) and giving direction (irshaad). This [i.e. re orting to ta'weel] necessitates that they are more knowledgeable than Him, more eloquent and clear [in speech] than Him and greater in giving advice to mankind. [4] Playing with the texts [of the Book and the Sunnah] and putting and end to their sanctity and sacredness.[43] Let alone: [5] That the Mu'awwil (one who resorts to ta'weel) is not pleased with - for Allaah the Exalted - what the most knowledgeable of Him amongst the people - and he is the Messenger of Allaah (sallallaahu alaihi wasallam) - was pleased with for Him. [6] That this ta'weel - had Allaah desired it for Himself - then He would have ordered it in His Book or upon the tongue of His Messenger (sallallaahu alaihi wasallam) and then ta'weel of the Attributes of Allaah - the Most High - would have been obligato y, a necessary part of the religion - the neglection of which would be forbidden and whoever abandoned it would have been sinful. And this is in addition to the fact that when Allaah - the Most High - has not permitted it then doing it would be a mistake nd it would be a manner that is blameworthy and forbidden - due to what it implies - [that is]: Its being a form of correcting and rectifying Allaah - the Most High - and His Messenger (sallallaahu alaihi wasallam). [7] That the Mu'awwil of the Attributes of Allaah - in fleeing from tashbeeh (anthropomorphism) and fearing it - has been ignorant of a great reality and this is the impossibility of there being any likeness between the Attributes of Allaah - the Most Hig - and the attributes of His servants since there can be no likeness between the Attributes of the Creator and the attributes of the creation ever. And this is due to the fact that Allaah has informed that there is nothing like Him and He is the All-Heari g, All-Seeing, and that He is unique (Ahad) and that there is no equal to Him. And the Mu'awwil [in resorting to ta'weel] is a liar (kaadhib) since the reality differs from what he says in its entirety and is also a denier (mukadhdhib) because he has reje ted Allaah with respect to His saying: There is nothing like Him [Soorah Shooraa 42:11] And he is a pagan (mushrik) and a disbeliever (kaafir) due to associating some of the servants of Allaah with some of the Attributes of Allaah - the Most High.[44] [8] That this Mu'awwil of the Attributes of Allaah - the Most High - in fleeing from tashbeeh and in fearing it - the mighty difference between the Attributes of the Creator - the Magnificent and Most High - and between the attributes of the weak and inca able servants has become hidden from him.[45] [9] And ta'weel makes the texts [of the Book and the Sunnah] lose their characteristic reverence and prestige since this ta'weel has not depended upon an authentic text from the Sharee'ah and not a single one of the scholars of the Salaf have spoken with t.[46] [10] And likewise this ta'weel contradicts with the fact of Islaam being a practical religion that is compatible and in harmony with every age and era. And it also contradicts the fact that Allaah - the Most High - has described the Qur'aan as being a dis ourse (bayaan), an explanation (tibyaan) for every single thing, and something made easy for remembrance - and in whose ayaat - reflection and contemplation has been requested. And for this reason Abul-Qaasim bin Mandah said in his book 'ar-Radd alal-Jahm yyah': ''To the Ashaabul-Hadeeth - ta'weel is a form or rejection (takdheeb)"[47] A General Note After this it is necessary to also bear in mind some of the replies of the Scholars of Ahl us-Sunnah to the Ash'ariyyah - to whom the aforementioned Jahmee ascribes himself: Such as the fact that they affirm some of Allaah's Attributes and yet interpret others with ta'weel. Then the question arises: Why this contradiction? If ta'weel is correct why do they not do ta'weel with regard to all of Allaah's attributes? Or if it is orrect to affirm Allaah's attributes without ta'weel then why do they not affirm all of Allaah's attributes without ta'weel? What sound principle and proof do they use to distinguish between the Attributes which they accept without ta'weel and those which they explain away with ta'weel??? If they say that they do ta'weel of those attributes which they claim are attributes of the creation and therefore are not befitting the Creator - such as Allaah's Face, Hand, Arising over the Throne (al-Istiwaa) - then the reply is that the creation also have other attributes such as existence, knowledge power, will etc. which they share with the Creator. Then why do you manage to accept these as Attributes of Allaah without ta'weel? Then if they reply that we say that Allaah's existence is an existence not resembling that of the creation, but befitting His Majesty and likewise with regard to His Knowledge, Will and Power etc. - then the reply to them is: Then why are you not consiste t and what prevents you from saying the same with the rest of Allaah's Attributes e.g. that Allaah has a Hand befitting His Majesty, not similar to the hands of creation - and so on with regard to all of the Attributes - which is indeed the way of the Sal f. What is the proof for this distinction from the Book and the Sunnah and the Salaf whom they claim to be following?? Conclusion In conclusion it can be said: That the way of this Jahmee and the Ahl ul-Bid'ah in general - due to their being the most ignorant of people of the Narrations from Allaah's Messenger (sallallaahu alaihi wasallam) and detesters of the narrations from the Co panions[48], the Taabi'een and those after them amongst the Salaf - take from what has been narrated from them, only selectively - not being concerned with its reliability or authenticity - and not looking at the firmly established position of the one abo t whom they narrate in other than what they have chosen to narrate from him[49] - in order to suit their desires, promote their falsehood, deceive and misguide the common-folk and utter an enormous lie against Allaah and His Messenger (sallallaahu alaihi asallam) - and Allaah's refuge is sought from them, from their innovations, from their evil and from their misguidance and as a consequence, from the Fire - since every newly invented matter is an innovation and every innovation is misguidance and every m sguidance is in the Hellfire.[50] It is hoped that what has preceded leads the Jahmee and those upon his way to repent - abandon the pseudo-intellectualism - and to truly follow the madhhab of the Salaf - [which is to submit to the narrations, to leave them as they have come, affirm the m aning and submit the knowledge of how they are to Allaah, the Most High] - just as Abu Hasan al-Ash'aree repented and declared himself free from the Mu'tazilah and also from the innovator, Ibn Kullaab, in the later stages of his life and then adopted the adhhab of the Salaf. And we have used harshness in what we have said since that is the way of the Ahl us-Sunnah in dealing with the People of Innovation, and those affected by them with the hope that perhaps that they may realise the gravity of their sin nd be led to repent. Al-Baghawee (d. 535H) - may Allaah have mercy upon him said: "And the Prophet (sallallaahu alaihi wasallam) has informed about the splitting of this Ummah and the appearance of desires and innovations within it and he ruled that deliv rance would be for the one who followed his Sunnah and the Sunnah of his Companions - may Allaah be pleased with them all - Therefore, it is necessary for the Muslim, when he sees a man engaging himself with anything from the desires and innovations, beli ving in them, or belittling anything from the Sunnah, that he flees from him, disowns him and leaves him, dead or alive. So he does not give salaam to him when he meets him and nor does he respond to him if he salutes first [and he should continue doing t is] until this person abandons his innovation and returns to the truth."[51] And finally, the saying of the Salaf us-Saalih - which shall remain till the establishment of the Hour and by which Allaah shall perfect His light - even though the Innovators may detest it - is: Everything that has been reported in the Book of Allaah - the Mighty and Magnificent - of His Attributes, such as Face, Eyes, Hand, Shin, Istiwaa (Ascending over the Throne) and others besides them and likewise what the Messenger of Allaah (sallallaahu al ihi wasallam) has decribed Him with and which is established in the Authentic Prophetic Narrations such as the Descending and other such things - then all the Scholars of the Book and the Sunnah have faith in these Attributes and they affirm them for Alla h without ta'teel (denying them), ta'weel (interpolation of the intended meaning), tashbeeh likening them to the creation). And these are Attributes which befit Allaah in a way that they do not resemble the attributes of any of the creation due to His say ng: And there is nothing like Him [Soorah Shoorah 42:11] So after all this, it must be asked: Is it that the Words of Allaah the Mighty and Majestic are ambiguous and unclear while the words of this lowly Jahmite are clear and decisive? Is it that the words of this Jahmee zindeeq are pure and clear arabic tongu while the Words of Allaah are other than that? Is it that Ibn Safwaan of this era has a better explanation than the Messenger (sas), the Noble Companions and the Taabi'een after them? Is it that Allaah took away His Messenger (sas) while the guidance was incomplete and then tasked this lowly Jahmite to complete it with his pseudo-intellectualism, theological rhetoric and the innovated principles of his forefather, the father of the Mu'tazilah, al-Qaadee Abdul-Jabbaar?[52] Answer these questions upon knowl dge and a sincere heart and don't put the lying, deceiving, treacherous imposter at the same level as those deeply rooted in knowledge and piety, the Allaah-fearing scholars from the Salaf us-Saalih!! A Summary The following narrations from the Imaams of the Salaf summarise the lessons to be learnt from this response to the neo-Jahmite. Imaam Abu Haatim ar-Raazee (d. 277H) said: "A sign of the Jahmiyyah is that they call the Ahl us-Sunnah 'Mushabbihah' (Anthropomorphists)."[53] Abu Uthmaan as-Saaboonee (d. 449H) stated - about the distinguishing signs of Ahl ul-Bid'ah: "...naming them [i.e. Ahl us-Sunnah]with Hashawiyyah (Worthless People), Jahalah (the Ignorant), Dhaahiriyyah (Literalists) and Mushabbihah (Anthropomorphists)... [54] Alee bin al-Madeenee - the teacher of Imaam Bukhaaree - said: "When someone says so and so is an anthropomorphist (mushabbih) we come to know he is a Jahmee".[55] And Imaam adh-Dhahabee said: "...And the scholars of the Salaf explained the important and unimportant words (occurring in the Qur'aan and Sunnah)....and as for the verses and the ahaadeeth of the Attributes they never subjected them to ta'weel, and they re the most important in the religion, so if ta'weel was permissible than they would have undertaken it. So know with certainty that reciting them, and leaving them as they came is the truth, and there is no explanation for them other than this, so we bel eve in this, and we are silent following the Salaf, believing that they are the Attributes of Allaah....and that they do not resemble the attributes of creation"[56]. Imaam at-Tirmidhee (d.279H) said : "It has been stated by more than one person from the People of Knowledge about such ahaadeeth, that there is no tashbeeh (resemblance) to the Attributes of Allaah, and our Lord - the Blessed and Most High - descends to t e lowest heaven every night. So they say: "Affirm these narrations, have eemaan (faith) in them, do not deny them, nor ask how." The likes of this has been related from Maalik ibn Anas, Sufyaan ath-Thawree, Ibn Uyainah and Abdullaah ibn al-Mubaarak, who a l said about such ahaadeeth: "Leave them as they are, without asking how." Such is the saying of the People of Knowledge from the Ahl us-Sunnah wal-Jamaa'ah. However, the Jahmiyyah oppose these narrations and say: This is tashbeeh! However, Allaah the Mos High, has mentioned in various places in His Book, the Attribute of al-Yad (Hand), as-Sama' (Hearing), and al-Basr (Seeing) - but the Jahmiyyah make ta'weel of these aayaat, explaining them in a way, other than how they are explained by the People of Kno ledge. They say: Indeed, Allaah did not create Aadam with His own Hand - they say that Hand means the Power of Allaah."[57] Ibn Hajr al-Asqalaanee said: "The one who takes the path of the khalaf cannot be sure that that which he makes ta'weel of is the intended meaning, and it is not possible to be certain of the correctness of the ta'weel"[58] Al-Khattaabee (d. 388H) said: "The madhhab of the Salaf (the Pious Predecessors) with regard to the Sifaat (Attributes of Allaah) is to affirm them as they are alaa dhaahir (with their apparent meaning), negating any tashbeeh (resemblance) to them, nor ta yeef (asking how they are)."[59] Shaikh Abdul-Qaadir al-Jeelaanee (d. 561H) said: "It is essential to carry the attribute of Allaah al-Istiwaa (Allaah's Ascending) upon its apparent meaning - without ta'weel, and that He ascended by His Dhaat (Self) over the Throne. Istiwaa does not mean sitting or touching - as the Mujassimah and Karraamiyyah say. Nor does it mean uluww (grandeur and highness) - as the Ash'ariyyah say; nor does it mean isteelaa (conquering and dominating over) - as the Mu'tazilah say. None of this is related in the Share 'ah. Neither has this been related by any one of the Salaf us-Saalih (Pious Predecessors) from the Sahaabah and the Taabi'een, nor from the Ashaabul-Hadeeth (Scholars of Hadeeth). Rather, it is related from them that they carried the meaning of Istiwaa wi h its apparent meaning."[60] And thus the way of these great Imaams, their creed and their methodology becomes distinct and separated from the stench and vileness of the way of this deceiving, lying, surmising, treacherous (and yet worthless) Jahmee, who gives rise to forgery, mislea s the common-folk and earns the wrath of Allaah. And in conformity with the du'a of Muhammad bin Mis'ab[1,]one of the pious worshippers from among the Salaf, we say: "Whoever claims that Your Attributes such as Hand, Face, Eyes, Shin, Laughter (and other than these which You revealed to us in Your Might Book and the Sunnah of Your Messenger) are not to be affirmed as You revealed them, that the ahaadeeth of Your Messenger should not be taken upon their literal meanings as they were intended, that they should be given figurative meanings based upon the i tellects and the ramblings of the minds, and that those who affirm them (as did the Salaf us-Saalih whom You favoured with knowledge and piety) should be considered anthropomorphists, then such a one is a disbeliever in You and Your Names and Attributes a d he, most certainly, is grossly ignorant of You. We testify that You have the Attributes that we have mentioned previously and we affirm them for You without ta'weel[62] or tashbeeh[63] or ta'kyeef - we carry them upoon their literal meanings[64] as did he Salaf us-Saalih, and we pass them on as they have came. And it is not as Your enemy, this vile and lowly Jahmee zindeeq says, but rather it is as those among the Salaf us-Saalih have said, those whose words we have quoted and have relied upon - and we, by Your grace and favour shall cling to the way of those great notables, even though the Innovators may detest it." Wa kullu khairin fi Ittibaa'i man salaf Wa kullu sharrin fi Ibtidaa'i man khalaf All praise is due to Allaah and prayers and peace upon the Final Messenger, his family and his companions. Notes 1 In response to a videotaped lecture entitled: 'Literalism and the Attributes of Allaah' delivered by Nuh Ha Mim Keller at the Islamic Cultural Centre, London Central Mosque, early 1995 - in which he seeks to ascribe and justify ta'weel and tafweedh as b ing way and methodology of the Salaf in understanding the Attributes of Allaah. This person and others like him in the present time seek the nullification of the Narrations of Allaah's Messenger (sallallaahu alaihi wasallam) and a deviation from that whic the Companions, the Taabi'een and the Scholars of the Salaf were upon - may Allaah have mercy upon them all - and a return to that which the executed Jahm bin Safwaan innovated and that which Abu Hasan al-Ash'aree was upon in his days of being a Mu'tazil e and in his days of speaking with the innovations of Ibn Kullaab, something which he renounced and declared himself free of at the end of his life - for Allaah had chosen him, guided him and favoured him with the path of the Salaf us-Saalih. Rather, his inal affair was upon the madhhab of Imaam Ahmad as is clear in his books al-Maqaalaat and Usool ud-Diyaanah. Refer to Chapter 10 of 'The Foundations of the Sunnah' for more details. As for the word Jahmee, then it is for the one who is upon the way Jahm bin Safwaan (ex. 128H) in the negation of Allaah's Attributes, with the use of ta'weel or without it. The first person about whom it is recorded that he denied Allaah's Attributes was al-Ja'd bin Dirham (ex. 124H) who was executed by Khaalid al-Qusree. Jahm bin Safwaan - later executed by Salam bin Ahraz, the ameer of Khurasaan - took it from al-Ja'd bin Dirham and propagated it and so it was ascribed to him. The Scholars of Ahl us-Sun ah have named those upon the way and methodology of Jahm - in the denial of either all of Allaah's Attributes or just some of them - as 'Jahmiyyah'. And it is will become as clear as the daylight sun, that the aforementioned person is a Jahmee - even thou h he may deny it and try to disguise it - since that which he calls to and which he holds as his belief - is the very same as that which the scholars of the Salaf authored books against - in order to refute it - and in order to warn the common folk agains its hidden evil. 2 Aqeedatul-Haafidh Abdul-Ghaniyy (p.113) 3 Aqeedat us-Salaf wa Ashaabil-Hadeeth (p.112) 4 It is reported from the hadeeth of Anas - may Allaah be pleased with him - in marfoo' form with the wording: "From among the signs of the Hour is that the knowledge will be raised and ignorance will become widespread." Reported by at-Tayaaleesee (no.101 , Ahmad (3/98, 176, 273, 289), Bukhaaree in his Saheeh (1/178, 9/330, 10/30, 12/113-114), Muslim (4/2056) at-Tirmidhee (no.2205) and Ibn Maajah declared it saheeh (no.4045) and it is also reported by others besides them. 5 Aqeedat us-Salaf wa Ashaabil-Hadeeth (p.112-113) 6 Al-Fataawaa (28/231-232) 7 Al-Hilyah (5/41-42) of Abu Nu'aym and as-Samt wa Aadaab il-Lisaan (p.145) of Ibn Abee Dunyaa 8 Sharh Usool ul-I'tiqaad (no. 278) 9 Ahl us-Sunnah of Abu Haatim ar-Raazee (p.21-22) and Sharh Usool ul-I'tiqaad (no.92). 10 Aqeedatus-Salaf wa Ashaabul Hadeeth (p.101). 11 Sharh Usool ul-I'tiqaad (no.306). Reflect carefully how the Salaf did not used to say, "When someone says so and so is a Jahmee, we come to know he is an anthropomorphist" and the likes of this - for this is a clear indication that the madhhab of the Salaf was to affirm the Attributes men ioned in the Book and the Sunnah for Allaah - for affirming them never necessitated, to those great scholars from the Salaf, tashbeeh (anthropomorphism). As Nu'aym bin Hammaad (d. 228H), the teacher of al-Bukhaaree said: "Indeed, all that Allaah has described Himself with, or what His Messenger has described Him with, then there is no tashbeeh in it at all." Reported by Imaam adh-Dhahabee in al-Uluww (no.2 7). Thus, it is from this perspective that the dispute between Ahl us-Sunnah wal-Jamaa'ah and the People of Innovations, Deviation and Misguidance arose - and this Jahmee whose condition we are discussing at present is but kindling the flames of enmity agains those great scholars amongst the Salaf and those who guide themselves by those great scholars. 12 The aforementioned Jahmee said: "Finally, if the shortcomings of the Dhaahiree interpretation are plain enough in fiqh, in aqeedah it can amount to outright misguidance. As when someone reads the Qur'aanic verse, "Today We forget you as you have forgot en this Day of yours", and affirms that Allaah, forgets, which is an imperfection and not permissible to affirm for Allaah..." 13 Refer to Lisaanul Arab of Ibn Manzoor for examples 14 The aforementioned Jahmee said: "...Now this is precisely ta'weel - or interpretation in other than the verses ostensive sense. At-Tabaree ascribes this interpretation through his chain of transmission to the Companion -the Sahaabee - Ibn Abbaas (ra) a well as to Mujaahid..." 15 This Jahmee has also falsely ascribed the madhhab of Tafweedh to the Salaf with his saying: "The real aqeedah of Imaam Ahmad was very simple and consisted mainly of Tafweedh, that is to consign to Allaah, the meaning of the mutashaabihaat - or unappare t meanings of the Qur'aan and Hadeeth" and this is a clear lie against Imaam Ahmad specifically and the Salaf generally. Refer to Chapter 4 of 'Foundations of the Sunnah' of Imaam Ahmad, which has dealt with this issue. What is even more strange is that in the same breath he, - the aforementioned Jahmee - quotes the saying of Sufyaan bin Uyainah (d. 198H) who said: "The interpretation - tafseer - of everything that Allaah has described Himself in His Book is to recite it and remain silent about it." So why is it that the Jahmee and his likes do not remain silent, but resort to ta'weel (figurative interpolation) - something that is not authenically related from any of the Salaf - and then attribute this unashamedly and unjustifiably to the Salaf?! As for the Jahmee's innovation that the aayaat mentioning the Sifaat (Attributes of Allaah) are among the mutashaabihaat (ambiguous, unclear verses, whose meaning is known only to Allaah) - then sufficient for him are the following narrations from the Sal f: Rabee'at ur-Ra'ee (d. 136H) said: "Al-Istiwaa (Allaah Ascending) is not unknown, and how (it occurs) is not comprehendable, and from Allaah is the Message, upon the Messenger is to convey, and upon is to affirm." Reported by al-Bayhaqee in al-Asmaa was-Si aat (no.516) and al-Laalikaa'ee in Usool ul-I'tiqaad (no.665). Imaam Maalik (d. 179H) said: "Al-Istiwaa is known, and how is unknown, to have eemaan in it is obligatory and to question it is an innovation." Reported by al-Bayhaqee in al-Asmaa was-Sifaat (p.516) with the wording: "Al-Istiwaa is not unknown and how is nknown, to have eemaan in it is obligatory and to question it is an innovation." Ad-Daarimee also reported it in ar-Radd alal-Jahmiyyah (p.55). Ibn Jareer at-Tabaree (d. 310H) said concerning the saying of Allaah, the Most High: The Most Merciful made Istiwaa over the Throne [Soorah Taa Haa 20:5] meaning: "It means alaa and irtafa'a' (rising above and ascending)." Jaami' ul-Bayaan an-Ta'weel il-Qur'aan (16/137). And Imaam Bukhaaree - may Allaah have mercy upon him - said in his Saheeh: "Mujaahid said: "..istawaa alal-Arsh [meaning] alaa (i.e. asce ded)', Ishaaq bin Raahawaiyah said: 'I heard more than one of the Mufassireen saying: 'ar-Rahmaan alal-Arsh istawaa [meaning] irtafa'a (i.e. ascended)'. And this is the manifest meaning of Istiwaa in the language. Therefore, the meaning is known and it is not from the mutashaabihaat as the Jahmee has claimed. And this is the same with all the Attributes, their meanings in the language are known, but how they are is not known. This is why the Salaf say: 'Without ta' eel (denying the meaning of the Attribute), tahreef (distorting the meaning of the attribute) takyeef (asking how the attribute is) and without tashbeeh (likening it to the creation)' - regarding Allaah's Attributes. Refer also to Chapters 3 and 4 of 'Fou dations of the Sunnah' for further evidence. Ibn al-Qayyim says: "And this is why Maalik and Rabee'ah said: "Al-Istiwaa is known and how is unknown", and likewise Ibn al-Maajishoon and Imaam Ahmad and others amongst the Salaf have said: "We do not know the kaifiyyah (the how) of what Allaah has info med about Himself, even if we know its explanation (tafseerihi) and its meaning (ma'naahu)." Mukhtasar us-Sawaa'iqil-Mursalah (1/165) So the Salaf affirm the meaning - in accordance with the apparent meaning from the language - with the intent of Allaah, as ash-Shaafi'ee said: "I believe in what has come from Allaah as it was intended by Allaah and I believe in what has come from the Me senger of Allaah (sallallaahu alaihi wasallam) as it was intended by the Messenger of Allaah", which the Jahmee also quoted in his speech - but falsely deducing from it that the madhhab of Shaafi'ee with respect to the Attributes is tafweedh - free is Ima m ash-Shaafi'ee from the Jahmee as the lion was from the blood of Yoosuf (alaihis-salaam). The way of the Salaf is - as explained in the saying of Imaam at-Tirmidhee (d.279H): "It has been stated by more than one person from the People of Knowledge about such ahaadeeth, that there is no tashbeeh (resemblance) to the Attributes of Allaah, and ou Lord - the Blessed and Most High - descends to the lowest heaven every night. So they say: "Affirm these narrations, have eemaan (faith) in them, do not deny them, nor ask how." The likes of this has been related from Maalik ibn Anas, Sufyaan ath-Thawree Ibn Uyainah and Abdullaah ibn al-Mubaarak, who all said about such ahaadeeth: "Leave them as they are, without asking how." Such is the saying of the People of Knowledge from the Ahl us-Sunnah wal-Jamaa'ah. However, the Jahmiyyah oppose these narrations nd say: This is tashbeeh! However, Allaah the Most High, has mentioned in various places in His Book, the Attribute of al-Yad (Hand), as-Sama' (Hearing), and al-Basr (Seeing) - but the Jahmiyyah make ta'weel of these aayaat, explaining them in a way, othe than how they are explained by the People of Knowledge. They say: Indeed, Allaah did not create Aadam with His own Hand - they say that Hand means the Power of Allaah." Sunan at-Tirmidhee (3/24) And in the saying of al-Khattaabee (d. 338H): "The madhhab of the Salaf (the Pious Predecessors) with regard to the Sifaat (Attributes of Allaah) is to affirm them as they are alaa dhaahir (with their apparent meaning), negating any tashbeeh (resemblance) to them, nor takyeef (asking how they are)." Al-Ghuniyah an Kalaam wa Ahlihi - as quoted in Mukhtasirul-Uluww (no. 137). So the meaning is known and this is what the Salaf affirm since in that there is the affirmation of the Attribute, however its reality is unknown and the Salaf do not enquire into its nature by asking how. On top of this, the Jahmee, accuses the Salaf and those upon their way of being Mushabbihah (Anthropomorphists) on more than one occasion. He said: "...This [referring to the use of ta'weel - after having used the example of the Attribute of Hand to show hat it is to be explained away figuratively - and which we shall refute below inshaa'allaah] naturally drew criticism of neo-Hanbalees, at their forefront Ibn Taymiyyah and Ibn al-Qayyim, as it does of today's reformers of Islaam who echo these two's argu ents that figurative interpretation - ta'weel - was a reprehensible departure - or bid'ah - by the Ash'arees and others from the way of the early Muslims - or Salaf - who call for a return ro the Sunnah, that is, anthropomorphic literalism" End of the Jah ee's words - Alhamdulillaah. It is said in reply to the Jahmee and those upon his way: Firstly: Ibn Abil-Izz (d. 792H), the explainer of Aqeedatut-Tahaawiyyah, said: "Ishaaq bin Raahawaiyah (d. 238H), the teacher of Imaam Bukhaaree, said: 'A distinguishing sign of Jahm and his associates is their claim that Ahl us-Sunnah wal-Jamaa'ah - and ow fond they [i.e. Jahm and his likes] are of lying - that they are Mushabbihah (Anthropomorphists)', and similarly, many of the Scholars of the Salaf have said: 'There is no one who denies anything from the Names and Attributes except that he calls the o e who affirms them a Mushabbih (Anthropomorphist)." Sharh Aqeedatit-Tahaawiyyah (p.118). Imaam Abu Haatim ar-Raazee (d. 277H) said: "A sign of the Jahmiyyah is that they call the Ahl us-Sunnah 'Mushabbihah' (Anthropomorphists)." Ahl us-Sunnah of Abu Haati ar-Raazee (p.21-22) and Sharh Usool ul-I'tiqaad (no.92). And Abu Uthmaan as-Saaboonee (d. 449H) stated - about the distinguishing signs of Ahl ul-Bid'ah: "...naming them [i.e. Ahl us-Sunnah]with Hashawiyyah (Worthless People), Jahalah (the Ignorant), Dha hiriyyah (Literalists) and Mushabbihah (Anthropomorphists)..." Aqeedatus-Salaf wa Ashaabul Hadeeth (p.101), and Alee bin al-Madeenee said: "When someone says so and so is an anthropomorphist (mushabbih) we come to know he is a Jahmee". Usool ul-I'tiqaad ( o.306). Secondly: it is clear that the real tashbeeh (making resemblances for Allaah) lies in the heart of this filthy Jahmee and others like him since when they hear the Attributes of Allaah being mentioned such as Hand, Face and the likes, they are disturbed, c nfused, unsettled - nay - bewildered. This is because their hearts cannot but make analogies for Allaah from His creation when they hear these Attributes and so they are forced to deny them, claiming thereby that they are declaring Allaah free of defects tanzeeh) and that it is tashbeeh (anthropomorphism) to affirm them. As for the Salaf - those whose hearts Allaah has guided and has kept safe - and those upon their way, they affirm all the Attributes as they have come, without ta'weel, or tashbeeh as has been quoted previously from them. As Imaam al-Juwaynee (d. 438H) said: "And Allaah expanded my chest about the state of those Shaikhs who made ta'weel of al-Istiwaa to isteelaa ... and it is my belief that they do not understand the Attributes of the Lord - the Most High - except with wha befits the creation. Thus they do not understand al-Istiwaa of Allaah as it truly befits Him ... so this is why they distort the words from its proper context and deny what Allaah has described Himself with. And we shall mention the explanation of that i Allaah wills." Risaalah Ithbaatul-Istiwaa wal-Fawqiyyah (p.176-183) For a longer quotation of his words refer to the end of Chapter 3 of 'Foundations of the Sunnah' of Imaam Ahmad - On the falsehood of Ta'weel. Imaam al-Juwaynee was a former Ash'aree who retracted from the Ash'aree madhhab and followed the path of the Salaf. 16 This is said by Ash'aree in al-Maqaalaat (p.290) and al-Ibaanah (p.9) and al-Moojiz. 17 The aforementioned Jahmee, in his vilification of the Ulamaa of the Salaf, said: "On page 97 of the same work, Ibn ul-Qayyim also mentions the hadeeth of Bukhaaree warning of the Anti-Christ - al-Maseeh ad-Dajjaal - who in the last days will come forth and claim to be God, of which the Prophet, Allaah bless him and give him peace, sai : "Allaah has sent no Prophet except that he warned his people of the one-eyed liar and that he is one-eyed and that your Lord is not one-eyed and that he shall have unbeliever - kaafir - written between his two eyes". Ibn al-Qayyim comments, "The Prophet (sallallaahu alaihi wasallam) negated the attribute of one-eyedness (meaning of Allaah) which is proof that Allaah literally has two eyes". Now a primer in logical fallacies could have told Ibn al-Qayyim that the negation of a quality - one-eyedness - doe not entail the affirmation of its contrary - two-eyedness. And example of what is called by the logicians, the "black and white fallacy". For example, to say "if it is not white it is therefore black, if you are not my friend you must be my enemy..." and so on. So what he attempts to prove here does not show the kind of anthropomorphism he is trying to promote." End of the Jahmee's words -Alhamdulillaah. It is said in response to the Jahmee: Firstly: "Ayyuhal Jahool, bil-ilmi mawsoof wa bil-jahli mushtahir - (O Ignoramus, with knowledge described but with ignorance notorious) Secondly: Or alternatively: "...bil aqli mawsoof wa bil-jahli mushtahir." (...with intelligence described but with ignorance notorious). Thirdly: "In the language of the Arabs it is possible to annex a noun in its singular, dual and plural form and this is determined by the nature of the noun to which it is being annexed. If that to which a singular noun is being annexed is also singular, hen they leave the annexed noun in its singular form. And if they annex a noun to a plural personal pronoun then it is better to put the annexed noun in the plural form as well such as in the saying of the Most Perfect: Floating under our Eyes (a'yuninaa) [54:14] and in His saying: Do they not see that We have created for them of what Our Hands (aideenaa) have created...[36:71] And if they annex a noun to a dual noun [or a dual personal pronoun] then it is more clear and eloquent in their language to put the annexed noun into the plural form as well such as in the saying of Allaah - the Most Perfect: If you two (i.e. Aa'ishah and Hafsah - may Allaah be pleased with them both) turn in repentance to Allaah, (it will be better for you), your hearts (quloobukumaa) are indeed so inclined... [66:4] So in this verse two people are being addressed and they are but two hearts, but Allaah - the Most Perfect - has used the word quloob, which is in the plural form. Therefore, let not the listener be confused by the saying: "We see you with our eyes (naraa a bi a'yuninaa) and we shall take you with our hands (na'khudhuka bi aideenaa)" - and no single man on the face of the earth understands from this many eyes or many hands in any aspect whatsoever - and Allaah knows best." Shaikh Saalih al-Fawzaan - may Al aah protect him - in his Sharh ul-Aqeedatil Waasitiyyah (p.52) and the like of this is also mentioned by Ibn al-Qayyim. Refer also to 'Al-Kawaashif al-Jaliyyah an Ma'aani al-Waasitiyyah' (pp.253-254) of Abdul-Azeez al-Muhammad as-Salmaan. Fourthly: It is clear in his vilification of Ibn al-Qayyim - and in his use of the knowledge of logical fallacies and while being grossly ignorant of the language of the Arabs - that the Jahmee's way is but the way of Ahl ul-Kalaam (the People of Theologi al Rhetoric and Innovated Speech) and had ash-Shaafi'ee - may Allaah have mercy upon him - been present he would have enforced his ruling upon this Jahmee: "My ruling regarding the people of theological rethoric is that they should be beaten with palm lea es and shoes and be paraded amongst the kinsfolk and the tribes with it being announced: This is the reward of the one who abandons the Book and the Sunnah and turns to theological rhetoric (kalaam)." Sharh Aqeedat it-Tahaawiyyah of Ibn Abi al-Izz (p.75). 18 Al-Fath (13/373) 19 Abu Daawood (3/1324) and it is saheeh 20 It has already preceded that the way of Ahl us-Sunnah in the issue of the Attributes of Allaah is to affirm whatever has been narrated from the Messenger (sallallaahu alaihi wasallam) in describing Allaah the Exalted from the Authentic Narrations - tho e reported by trustworthy and reliable narrators. And they affirm whatever comes through these narrations without ta'teel (denying the meaning), tahreef (distorting the meanings), tasbheeh (likening to the creation) and takyeef (asking 'how'). As for the repellers and rejectors of the narrations - as has been explained before - this occurs from them since they cannot understand Allaah's Attributes except in the manner that befits the creation. So likening to the creation is what their hearts fa l into upon hearing the likes of these narrations mentioning the Attributes of Allaah - the Most High . The tashbeeh began and occurred in their hearts and the Ahl us-Sunnah are free from it. But then they, due to a further sickness in their hearts then a cuse the Ahl us-Sunnah of being anthropomorphists simply because they affirm for Allaah what Allaah and His Messenger (sallallaahu alaihi wasallam) affirmed for Him, without ta'teel, ta'weel, takyeef or tashbeeh?! 21 Abu Haneefah (d. 150H) said in Fiqh al-Akbar: "It is not to be said that His Hand [means] His Power, since in that is a nullification of the Attribute." Yoosuf Muhammad Siddique said in Daqaa'iqul-Aqeedah inda A'immatul-Arba'ah (p.11-12): "And the ta'weel of the one who says: 'What is intended by 'al-Yad' is power' is not correct since it is not correct for the saying of Allaah: "... to one whom I have cr ated with My Two Hands..." to mean: 'with My Power...' when Hand has been mentioned in the dual. And if that had been correct then Iblees would have said: "And me too, did You create with Your Power, so he (Aadam) has no superiority over me in that." Howe er, Iblees, along with his disbelief, is more knowledgeable of his Lord than the Jahmiyyah." 22 Reported by Bukhaaree, in Kitaabut-Tawheed (13/403) 23 Reported by Bukhaaree, in Kitaabut-Tawheed (13/404) 24 Refer to Lisaan ul-Arab of Ibn Manzoor and al-Qaamoos al-Muheet of al-Fayrawzaabaadee under alif yaa daa. 25 A Disastrous and Calamitous Lightning Bolt upon the Aforementioned Jahmee:- Abu Hasan al-Ash'aree (d. 324H) - to whom this Jahmee ascribes himself - said: "If it is said: Why do you deny that His saying: Do they not see that We have created for them what Our Own Hands have created." [Soorah Yaa Seen 36:71] And His saying: Whom I have created with My Own (Two) Hands [Soorah Sa'd 38:75] are majaaz (metaphorical)? To him it is said: The ruling concerning the speech of Allaah - the Mighty and Majestic - is that it is taken upon its dhaahir (apparent) and haqeeqah (real) meaning. Nothing is removed from its dhaahir (apparent) meaning to maj az (metaphorical) one, except with a proof ... Likewise, the saying of Allaah, the Mighty and Majestic: Whom I have created with My Own (Two) Hands [Soorah Sa'd 38:75] Its dhaahir and haqeeqah meaning is affirming Yadain (two Hands of Allaah). So it is not permissible to alter it from the dhaahir meaning of Yadain to that which our opponents claim, except with a proof ... Consequently, about His saying: Whom I have created with My Own (Two) Hands [Soorah Sa'd 38:75] It is obligatory to affirm two Hands for Allaah - the Most High - in its haqeeqah (real) meaning, not with the meaning of ni'matayn (two bounties of Allaah)." Al-Ibaanah an Usool id-Diyaanah (p.133). Therefore, free and innocent is Abu Hasan al-Ash'aree f om the Jahmee as was Ibraaheem (alaihis-salaam) from his father and the pagans. Refer also to Chapters 4 and 10 of 'Foundations of the Sunnah' for evidence that soothes the heart and cures ignorance. 26 Reported by Bukhaaree, in Kitaabut-Tawheed (13/421) 27 Shaikh Saleem al-Hilaalee says, "Summarising what has been reported from ibn Abbaas on this issue: with this you will know, O beloved (reader) - may you learn the good - that the chains of narration that are reported from ibn Abbaas to do with his expl nation of His saying, "the Day when the Shin will be exposed" cannot be used to establish a proof, because they are all da'eef. So if it is said: 'Can they be considered under the definition of hasan li ghayrihi (i.e. hasan due supporting each other).' I say (in reply): Indeed the weakness of them is such that they cannot support one another... Firstly: Some of them are severely weak and cannot be used to support rather they make the matter worse. For example: i) the route of Usama bin Zayd from Ikrimah from him (ibn Abbaas), and it is no. 1 ii) the route of al-Uofiyyeen and it is no. 2 iii) the 'masaa'il' of Naafi bin al-Azraq, and it is no. 8 Secondly: Some of them have a single deficiency, and that is inqitaa (missing links in the chain), so when this is the case then they do not support or strengthen others, and they are: i) the route of Alee bin Abee Talha from him and it is no.3 ii) the route of Ibraaheem an-Nakha'i from him and it is no.6 iii) the route of Dahhaak bin Mazaahim al-Hilaalee and it is no.7 Thirdly: Some of them cannot support others because they do not have the same meaning: i) So in some of them he says, "distress and severity" ii) in some of them he says, "the matter will be exposed and the actions will be shown" iii) in some he says, "a severe matter" iv) in some he says, "the Day of Judgement and the Hour due to it's severity." ....and due to this we are certain that the narration is not authentic to ibn Abbaas." al-Manhal ar- Raqraaq' (p. 30) 28 Shaikh Muhammad bin Jameel Zainoo explains [in his refutation against Muhammad Aadil Azeezah - and his book "Aqeedatul-Imaam al-Haafidh Ibn Katheer"]: " And if only he had taken a look at it (i.e. the saying of Ibn Abbaas) as the Muhaddithoon have, those who have declared it weak (da'eef) due to idtiraab (uncertainty/confusion) regarding its matn (text). Let the reader refer to the book "al-Manhal ar-Ra raaq fee Tafseer Yawma Yukshafu an Saaq" of Shaikh Saleem al-Hilaalee and others besides him from amongst the scholars who have studied its matn and its isnaad and have explained the weakness of the report from Ibn Abbaas. And is it understandable that Ib Abbaas - may Allaah be pleased with him - would oppose the hadeeth [of Abu Sa'eed al-Khudree] which explains the aayah and yet he is the same one who said: "I see that you will soon face destruction, I say to you 'Allaah's Messenger said' and you say 'Ab Bakr and Umar said'!!? Reported by Ahmad and others and Ahmad Shaakir declared it authentic. And I refer the reader to the tafseer of ash-Shawkaanee and Siddeeq Hasan Khan, both of whom explained the aayah with the hadeeth [of Abu Sa'eed al-Khudree]... And Ibn Katheer said at the end of his explanation of the aayah, where he mentions the meaning f the previous Prophetic Hadeeth: 'And when they were called to prostrate in the life of the world, they held back from that even though they were safe and sound [in health]. And likewise, they will be punished for their lack of power over it [i.e. prostr ting] in the Hereafter when the Lord - the Mighty and Magnificent - shows/reveals Himself - so the Believers will prostrate to Him and not a single one of the Disbelieves or the Hypocrites will be able to prostrate...'. I say: And in this explanation it i evident and clear that Ibn Katheer has explained the aayah with the hadeeth and has not explained it with the saying of Ibn Abbaas..." Bayaan wa Tahdheer min Kitaab Aqeedatil-Imaam al-Haafidh Ibn Katheer (p.4-5). 29 Reported by Bukhaaree in 'Kitaabul-Jihaad', Muslim in 'Kitaabul-Imaarah', Ibn Maajah in his muqaddimah, Imaam Maalik in Muwatta'a (1/285) and an-Nasaa'ee (2/32). 30 Asmaa was-Sifaat (p. 470). 31 Imaam Bukhaaree - may Allaah have mercy upon him - was clearly upon the way of the Salaf, meaning he affirmed the Attributes of Allaah as they befitted Him, and this is seen in his work 'Saheeh ul- Bukhaaree' (in Kitaab ut-Tawheed) and his work 'Khalq f'aal al-Ebaad.' As for the above hadeeth, Bukhaaree mentions it in three places in his 'Saheeh': Book of Jihaad, Chapter 28. Book of the Merits of the Ansaar, Chapter 10. Book of Tafseer, Chapter 6. And nowhere does he mention the aforementioned ta'weel. In fact Ibn Hajr says, after quoting the words of al-Bayhaqee: "I have not seen that in any of the manuscripts that we have come across." Al-Fath (8/631). Imaam adh-Dhahabee quotes from Abu Ubaid al-Qaasim bin Sallaam (d. 224H) that he said, while talking about the Laughter of Allaah, "These are authentic ahaadeeth, the Ashaabul Hadeeth and the Fuqahaa have conveyed them, some from others, and they are the ruth in which there is no doubt according to us. But if it was said: 'How does He Laugh?' We say: we do not explain this, and we have not heard anyone explain it." Adh-Dhahabee adds to this saying; "And the scholars of the Salaf explained the important and unimportant words (occurring in the Qur'aan and Sunnah)....and as for the verses and the ahaadeeth of the Attributes they never subjected them to ta'weel, and the are the most important in the religion, so if ta'weel was permissible than they would have undertaken it. So know with certainty that reciting them, and leaving them as they came is the truth, and there is no explanation for them other than this, so we b lieve in this, and we are silent following the Salaf, believing that they are the Attributes of Allaah....and that they do not resemble the attributes of creation". Siyar A'laam un-Nubulaa (10/505). 32 The aforementioned Jahmee said, in his lecture: "The hadeeth master Haafidh Ibn Katheer reports in al-Bidaayah wan-Nihaayah, that Imaam al-Bayhaqee related from Haakim: from Abu Umar ibn Sammaak: from Hanbal the son of the brother of Ahmad bin Hanbal's father, that, quote, "Ahmad bin Hanbal figuratively interpreted the word of Allaah, Most High, 'And your Lord shall come...' as meaning: His recompense shall come." Al-Bayhaqee said this chain of narrators has absolutely nothing wrong with it." End of the Jahmee's words - Alhamdulillaah. The following observations are made in response: Firstly, the fact that Ibn Katheer quotes the narration in no way proves his agreement to that particular interpretation [if it is authentic from Imaam Ahmad]. Rather, see what Ibn Katheer says in his tafseer, which is what we have mentioned above - and w ich the Jahmee, failed to mention - and also what at-Tabaree has quoted in explanation of the aayah in his tafseer- also quoted above. Secondly: Regarding what al-Bayhaqee sometimes attributes to the imaams of the Salaf with respect to ta'weel then the Shaikh, Abdul Azeez ibn Baaz - may Allaah protect him - says: "As for what occurs in the words of al-Bayhaqee - may Allaah have mercy upo him - in his book 'al-I'tiqaad' with regard to such things - then this is from what entered upon him from the speech of the mutakallimoon (people of theological rhetoric), and their false additions. This was passed to him and he believed in the correctne s of that, whereas the truth is that it is from the speech of the People of Innovation, not from the speech of the People of the Sunnah." Tanbeehaat Haammah alaa maa katabahu ash-Shaikh Muhammad Alee as-Saaboonee fee Sifaatillaahi - Azzawajall (p.23) And among al-Bayhaqee's shaikhs is Abu Bakr ibn Fawrak. Adh-Dhahabee described him as 'Shaikh of the Mutakallimoon (people of theological rhetoric)" and also "He was an Ash'aree, a head in the field of theological rhetoric (kalaam)", and "I say: He was ta en in chains to Sheeraaz for his beliefs (aqaa'id) and Abdul-Waleed related that the Sultaan Mahmood asked him about Allaah's Messenger (sallallaahu alaihi wasallam) so he said: "He was Allaah's Messenger, but as for today, then no", so he ordered that he should be killed with poison. And Ibn Hazm said: "He used to say that the soul of Allaah's Messenger has expired and faded away - and is not in Paradise." End of adh-Dhahabee's words. See as-Siyar (17/214/216). So al-Bayhaqee - may Allaah have mercy upon im - held a position in certain issues in which he was influenced by his shaikhs and he believed them to be correct - although he was mistaken in that. Thirdly: This narration that has been attributed to Imaam Ahmad has not been established from him, nor from his books, nor from the books of his companions and its mentioning by al-Bayhaqee is not to be depended upon since it is known that al-Bayhaqee - m y Allaah have mercy upon him - used to resort to ta'weel with respect to some of the Attributes and thus his narrating and quoting - in those issues in which he resorts to ta'weel - is not to be taken with full acceptance. Rather, it is established with c rtainty from Imaam Ahmad the necessity to affirm the Attributes alal-haqeeqah (in a real sense) and not to resort to ta'weel - and that which is known, established and certain from him is not left and abandoned for something that is merely suspected. In t is issue Imaam Ahmad has also authored ar-Radd alal-Jahmiyyah waz-Zanaadiqah which is well-known and also printed. Fourthly: Ibn al-Qayyim - may Allaah have mercy upon him - said: "As for the narration reported from Imaam Ahmad - then his companions are divided into three groups regarding it. The first: That this is mistakenly attributed to him since the only one who poke about it is Hanbal and he is one who has many opinions/reports which are in opposition to what is well known from the madhhab of Ahmad. So when he is alone in holding that which opposes the well-known - and al-Khallaal and his companion Abdul-Azeez d not establish that as a report from Ahmad [but] Abu Abdullaah bin Haamid and others establish that from him. However, what is correct is that it is a rejected narration [shaadhah] which opposes the essence of his [Ahmad's] madhhab. And this [something be ng rejected on account of its opposition to what is well-known] occurrs in the matter's of furoo' (the branches i.e. matters of fiqh) - then how about in this matter? And another group has said: "Rather, Hanbal has been precise in what he narrated and pre erved but then they differ regarding the explanation of this text. So a group amongst them says: "That Imaam Ahmad said that as an argument against them [the Jahmiyyah] since the people used to interpolate (perform ta'weel) from the Qur'aan the [Attribute ] of Arriving (Ityaan) and Coming (Majee) with the coming of His command - the Most Perfect. In this there was nothing to prove that by ascribing Coming and Arriving to Him [in this interpolated sense], that He is created. So likewise Allaah's describing is Words with Arriving and Coming is the same as His describing Himself with Arriving and Coming. Therefore this does not prove that His Word is created since it can be taken to mean the coming of His recompense - just as you (i.e. the people who resort t ta'weel) have taken His Coming - the Most Perfect - and His Arriving upon the meaning of the Coming of His command and His punishment. So Ahmad mentioned that as an argument against them and as something that is necessitated (by their way) to argue again t that which they used to believe - and which was [a line of reasoning] that was the same as that which they used as evidence against him - not that he believed that, since using something as proof [against somebody] does not necessitate that the one who s using something as a proof believes in the correctness of what he is using to dispute [his opponent]...". Ibn al-Qayyim continues later saying : "And something similar to this difference occurred in the madhhab of Maalik. It is well known from him and f om the Scholars of the Salaf to affirm the texts of the Attributes and the prohibition of resorting to ta'weel (interpolating them). It has been reported from him (Maalik) that he interpolated the saying [of Allaah's Messenger (sallallaahu alaihi wasallam ]: "Our Lord descends...", with the meaning: His command descends. This report has two isnaads (chains of narration): The first: From Habeeb his scribe, and this Habeeb is not the actual Habeeb, rather he is a liar (kadhdhaab) and a forger (waddaa') by un nimous agreement of all the Ahl ul-Jarh wat-Ta'deel and not a single one of the scholars depended upon him in his narration and in the isnaad. The second, in which there is an unknown person (majhool) whose condition is not known. Therefore, amongst his c mpanions are some who affirm this narration and amongst them are those who do not because the most famous of his companions have not narrated anything like this from him." End of his words. Mukhtasar us-Sawaa'iq al-Mursalah (2/260-261). And Shaikh ul-Islaam ibn Taymiyyah says: "And there is no doubt that that which is reported in mutawaatir form from Ahmad opposes this narration [in which Ahmad is supposed to have resorted to ta'weel] and it makes it clear that he does not say: 'The Lord comes [meaning] His command comes and descends', rather he rejects the one who says that." Sharh Hadeeth in-Nuzool (p.202). And what is authentically related from Imaam Ahmad is what al-Qaadee Abu Ya'laa narrates in his book: Ikhtilaaf ur-Riwaayatain (1/250) and also by Ibn al-Qayyim in Mukhtasar us-Sawaa'iq (p.386): "Hanbal said: I said to Abu Abdullaah: 'Allaah - the Mighty nd Magnificent descends to the lowest heaven?' He said: 'Yes.' I said: 'Is His descent by His Knowledge or what?' Then he said to me: 'Be quiet about this', and he became very angry and said: 'Pass on the hadeeth as it has come". And Abdullaah bin Ahmad said in his book as-Sunnah: "I asked my father: 'Allaah descends to the lowest heaven. How is his descending, is it His knowledge or not?' He said: 'Be quiet or severe punishment shall afflict you!' Then he said: 'Pass on the hadee h as it has come." Fifthly: With respect to the isnaad of the narration which Bayhaqee mentions from al-Haakim from Abu Amr ibn as-Sammaak from Hanbal... then: Al-Haakim reports a hadeeth in his 'Mustadrak' (1/539): "Abu Amr bin as-Sammaak related to us: Muhammad bin Eesaa l-Madaa'inee narrated to us..." Adh-Dhahabee comments upon it in his Talkhees saying: "I say: Abu Amr is not known (laa yu'raf) and al-Madaa'inee is abandoned (matrouk)"! So the narration, as we have mentioned previously, is not established from Imaam Ahm d since Abu Amr ibn as-Sammaak is unknown! So there is no proof for the Jahmee in this issue and all praise is due to Allaah, who is praised on account of His Most-Perfect Names and Attributes, there is nothing like Him and He is the all-Hearing, all-Seeing. 33 Refer also to Abu Hasan al-Ash'aree's al-Ibaanah an Usool id-Diyaanah. 34 A Disastrous and Cataclysmic Earthquake to Engulf and Swallow the Aforementioned Jahmee, Rendering him Abased, Despised and Rejected: Muhammad bin al-Hasan ash-Shaybaanee (d. 189H) said: "Hammaad bin Abu Haneefah said: "We said to them: Do you consider the saying of Allaah - the Mighty and Majestic: And your Lord comes accompanied by the Angels, ranks upon ranks" [Soorah Fajr 89:22] They said: "As for the Angels then they come, ranks upon ranks. But as for the Lord - the Most High - then we do not know what is meant by that [1] and we do not know the kaifiyyah (how) of His coming." So I said to them: "We do not oblige you to know how He comes but we oblige you to have faith in His coming. Do you not consider that the one who rejects that the Angels come, ranks upon ranks, what is he to you?" They said: A Kaafir (disbeliever) a Mukadhdhib (rejector)." I said: "Then likewise, the one wh denies that Allaah - the Most Perfect - comes then he is a Kaafir, a Mukadhdhib." Aqeedatus-Salaf wa Ashaabil-Hadeeth (p.49) of Abu Uthmaan as-Saaboonee. [1] And in this is a refutation of the People of Innovations and Desires - such as this Jahmee - who claim that the verses (and ahaadeeth) mentioning the Attributes of Allaah are from the mutashaabihaat (unclear verses) whose meanings are unknown. Rather, it is the kaifiyyah (precise nature) which is unknown, but as for the meanings, then the way of the Salaf, in opposition to the way this Jahmee, is to affirm them but to relegate the knowlege of exactly how they are (kaifiyyah), to Allaah, the Mighty and ajestic. And here you may note a further difference between the Salaf and the People of Innovations and Desires. The Salaf relegate the knowledge of exactly how the Attributes are to their Lord, but they affirm the apparent meanings of these Attributes, i a real sense. As for the Innovators, they relegate the knowledge of the meanings of the Attributes to Allaah, claiming that affirming them would necessitate tashbeeh?! And thus, this Jahmee, like his forefathers, Jahm bin Safwaan and al-Qaadee Abdul-Jabb ar, describes Allaah with nothingness! The falsehood of this claim has already been discussed above and more will be said about it in what follows, inshaa'allaah. Abu Abdullaah bin Abee Hafs al-Bukhaaree also said in his book: "Ibraaheem bin al-Ash'at said: "I heard al-Fudayl bin 'Iyaad (d. 187H) say: "When a Jahmee says to you: 'We do not believe in a Lord that descends to His place (yanzilu alaa makaanihi)' then ay: "I believe in a Lord who does whatever He wills." Aqeedatus-Salaf wa Ashaabil-Hadeeth (p.50) of Abu Uthmaan as-Saaboonee and Usool ul-I'tiqaad (no.775) of al-Laalakaa'ee. Ahmad bin Alee al-Abaar said: "I heard Yahyaa bin Ma'een say: "When you hear a Jahmee saying: 'I disbelieve in a Lord that descends', then say: "I believe in a Lord that does whatever He wills." Usool ul-I'tiqaad of al-Laalikaa'ee (no.776). And Hammaad bin Salamah said: "Abuse whosoever you see rejecting this (i.e. the Descent of Allaah to the Lowest Heaven)." Al-Arba'een fee Sifaat Allaah (no. 49). So where does this vile, filthy, treacherous Jahmee stand with respect to the likes of these notables and great Imaams?! And Abul Hasan al-Ash'aree (d. 324H) said: "And we believe in all the narrations that the People of Narration have considered to be authentic regarding the Descent (of Allaah) to the Lowest Heaven and that the Lord, Mighty and Majestic says: "Is there one asking, is there one seeking forgiveness", and the totality of what they quote and consider to be established, in opposition to the people of deviancy and misguidance." Al- Ibaanah (p. 60). 35 Ibn al-Qayyim - may Allaah have mercy upon him - said: "As for the one who says that it is His Command that comes or that it is His Mercy and Command that descends then if he means that when He - the Most Perfect - descends and comes, His Mercy and Com and [also] descend then this is correct and true. And if he intends that the Descent, the Coming and the Arriving for [His] Mercy and [His] Command is something other than [what has just been explained] then that is futile, from many aspects which have be n mentioned previously - and to them shall we add some others. Amongst them: It is said: Do you mean by His Mercy and His Command, an attribute which is essentially a part of the Self (Dhaat) or is it something created and separate [from Him] which you ha e termed Mercy? If you mean the first then the descending of Mercy necessitates the descending and coming of His Self (Dhaat) absolutely, and if you mean the second then that which descends for the judgement of affairs, is [but] something created and brou ht about, it is not the Lord of the Worlds. The futility of this is known absolutely and it is clear falsehood. It would be correct [and more appropriate for them] to say along with that, that it is not He Who descends to the lowest heaven and Who comes f r settling the Judgment, rather it is something other than Him that comes." Refer to al-Kawaashif al-Jaliyyah an Ma'aani al-Waasitiyyah (p.236) 36 In 'Dar ut-Ta'aarudh al-Aql wan-Naql' (1/121) 37 Sharh Aqeedatil-Waasitiyyah (1/94) of Ibn Uthaimeen 38 Sharh Aqeedatil-Waasitiyyah (1/100) of Ibn Uthaimeen. 39 Imaam Maalik (d. 179H) said: "Al-Istiwaa is known, and how is unknown, to have eemaan in it is obligatory and to question it is an innovation." Reported by al-Bayhaqee in al-Asmaa was-Sifaat (p.516) with the wording: "Al-Istiwaa is not unknown and how s unknown, to have eemaan in it is obligatory and to question it is an innovation." Ad-Daarimee also reported it in ar-Radd alal-Jahmiyyah (p.55). 40 Tuhfatul Ikhwaan fee Sifaatir-Rahmaan (p.36-38) 41 Al-Eemaan, Haqeeqatuhu wa Arkaanuhu (p.16) of Muhammad Na'eem Yaa Seen. 42 Nu'aym bin Hammaad (d. 228H), the teacher of al-Bukhaaree said: "Indeed, all that Allaah has described Himself with, or what His Messenger has described Him with, then there is no tashbeeh in it at all." Reported by Imaam adh-Dhahabee in al-Uluww (no.2 7). So compare this with the claims and lies of this vile Jahmite and see where those favoured with knowledge and piety stand and where the worthless ignoramuses stand, and don't make one like the other!! 43 See Mukhtasir as-Sawaa'iq al-Mursalah (p.37) 44 And this is because he understood the Attributes with which Allaah has described Himself to be similar to those of the creation, so the anthropomorphism (tashbeeh) initiated in him and in his understanding and as such he is a disbeliever in the saying f Allaah: There is nothing like Him and He is All-Hearing, All-Seeing [Soorah Shooraa 42:11] And from this, the falsehood of the People of Innovation - when they say about those upon the way of the Salaf - that they commit tashbeeh but only seek to protect themselves by the saying: "But we do not know how" - is known. For the Ahl us-Sunnah are th furthest from committing tashbeeh. 45 Aqeedatul-Muslim of Abu Bakr al-Jazaa'iree (p.111) 46 Ilaaqatul-Ithbaat wa Tafweedh bi Sifaat Rabbi-Aalameen (p.19) of Ridaa bin Na'saan. 47 Ilaaqatul-Ithbaat wa Tafweedh bi Sifaat Rabbi-Aalameen (p.19) of Ridaa bin Na'saan. 48 Abu Uthmaan as-Saaboonee (d. 449H) said: And I heard al-Haakim Abu Abdullaah saying: I heard Abu Nasr Ahmad bin Sahl al-Faqeeh of Bukhaaree saying: I heard Abu Nasr bin Salaam al-Faqeeh saying: "There is nothing more severe [burdensome] upon the Ahl ul Ilhaad (the People of Deviation) and nothing that is more detestable to them than listening to hadeeth and its being mentioned with its isnaad (the chain of narrators)." Aqeedatus-Salaf wa-Ashaabil Hadeeth of Abu Uthmaan as-Saaboonee and and also al-Khate b in Sharf Ashaabil-Hadeeth (p.73-74) 49 May Allaah have mercy upon you! Of the Ahl ul-Bid'ah beware for these are their outstanding and distinguishing features, by which they mislead and misguide the unsuspecting...leading them astray and directing them to the Blazing Fire: i) selectively quoting from the Salaf ii) not being concerned about its reliability or authenticity iii) not looking at the firmly established positions of those scholars from whom they narrate, iv) in other than what they have chosen to narrate from such scholars. And that this has been the path of this Jahmee is clear enough... 50 Abu Naajih Al-Irbaad bin Sariyyah said: "The Messenger of Allah gave us a sermon by which our hearts were filled with fear and tears came to our eyes. We said: "O Messenger of Allah, it is as though this is a farewell sermon, so councel us." He said: " councel you to fear Allaah and to give absolute obedience even if a slave becomes your leader. Verily he among you who lives [long] will see great controversy, so you must keep to my Sunnah and to the Sunnah of the Rightly-Guided Khaleefahs. Bite onto it with your molar teeth. Beware of newly invented matters, for every invented matter is an innovation and every innovation is a going astray, and every going astray is in Hell-fire." Reported by Abu Dawood and At-Tirmidhee, who said that it was hasan saheeh 51 Sharh us-Sunnah (1/224) 52 The Shaikh of the Mu'tazilah, al-Qaadee Abdul-Jabbaar, said: "When there are verses in the Qur'aan whose apparent meaning necessitates tashbeeh (resemblance to the creation) it is obligatory to interpret them (ta'weel) because words can carry [many] me nings whereas the proof [derived] by the intellect is far from carrying other possible [meanings]." Al-Muheet bit-Takhleef (p.200) 53 Ahl us-Sunnah of Abu Haatim ar-Raazee (p.21-22) and Sharh Usool ul-I'tiqaad (no.92). 54 Aqeedatus-Salaf wa Ashaabul Hadeeth (p.101) 55 Sharh Usool ul-I'tiqaad (no.306). 56 Siyar A'laam un-Nubulaa (10/505) 57 Sunan at-Tirmidhee (3/24). 58 Fath al-Baaree (13/436). 59 Al-Ghuniyah an Kalaam wa Ahlihi - as quoted in Mukhtasir al-Uluww (no.137). 60 Al-Ghuniyat ut-Taalibeen (1/50) of Abdul Qaadir al-Jeelaanee. 61 Imaam ad-Daraqutnee (d. 385H) said: "Muhammad bin Mukhlad narrated to us: Muhammad bin Muhammad bin Umar bin al-Hakam, Abu Hasan ibn al-Attaar said: I heard Muhammad bin Mis'ab, the Worshipper saying: "Whoever claims that You do not speak and that You ill not be seen in the Hereafter is a disbeliever in Your Face and he does not know You. I testify that You are above the Throne, above the seven heavens - not as Your enemies, the heretical apostates (Zanaadiqah) say." Kitaab us-Sifaat of ad-Daraqutnee ( o. 64) with the verification of Alee bin Muhammad bin Naasir al-Faqeehee. 62 Refer to the saying of Ibn Hajr above. 63 Nu'aym bin Hammaad (d. 228H), the teacher of al-Bukhaaree said: "Indeed, all that Allaah has described Himself with, or what His Messenger has described Him with, then there is no tashbeeh in it at all." Reported by Imaam adh-Dhahabee in al-Uluww (no.2 7) 64 Ibn Abdul Barr (d. 463H) said: "Ahl us-Sunnah are agreed in affirming all the Sifaat (Attributes) which are related in the Qur'aan and the Sunnah, having eemaan (faith) in them and understanding them alal-haqeeqah (in a real sense), not alal-majaaz (me aphorically)." At-Tamheed of Ibn Abdul-Barr (7/145). Qaadee Abu Ya'laa (d. 458H) said: "It is not permissible to repel these narrations - as is the way of the group from the Mu'tazilah. Nor to become preoccupied with ta'weel - as is the way of the Ash'ariyyah. It is obligatory to carry them upon their dhaah r (apparent) meaning; and that the Attributes of Allaah do not resemble any one of His creation, nor do we have an aqeedah (belief) that there is any tashbeeh (resemblance) to them. Rather [we believe] in what has been reported from our Shaikh and our Ima m, Abu Abdullaah, Ahmad ibn Muhammad ibn Hanbal, and others from the Scholars of Ashaabul-Hadeeth." Ibtaal ut-Ta'weelaat (p.4) Al-Khateeb al-Baghdaadee (d. 463H) said: "As for speech about the Attributes of Allaah, that which is authentically related about them in the Sunnah, then the way of the Salaf - may Allaah be pleased with them all - was to affirm them as they are, alaa dh ahir (upon their apparent meaning); negating any tashbeeh (resemblance) to Allaah and not asking how they are. We do not say that al-Yad (the Hand of Allaah) means His Power nor that as-Sama' (Allaah's Hearing) and al-Basr (Allaah's Seeing) means His Know edge, nor do we say that He has jawaarih (limbs)". Al-Kalaam alas-Sifaat of al-Khateeb al-Baghdaadee (p.19-20).

Shlomo Kargozi - 01/08/00 02:43:38

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Oh.. Thank you very much for this enormous Job you have done on this page. I bet your Saudi friends are quite satisfied with your efforts, you know what I mean, don't you? Oh, all Jews of the world unite thee !!

ali again - 01/03/00 17:18:10
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assalaamu alaykum to the bros who left a message called the LYNCHMOB bro you crack me up .iwas on the floor laughing alhamdulillah you think in a realistic way.

ali - 01/03/00 17:11:50
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assalaamu alaykum, reading some of the other peoples comments makes me to realize how many brain dead kooks amongst muslims there are. dont you people[im telling the commenters]understand anything and you are condemning us and giving priority to the sufies! if only you knew them properly ! my opinion to you kooks is Allah yahdiykum. firstly try to understand how to worship Allah s w.t with pure tawheed then correct your attitude towards ISLAAM aqeedah and then if Allah wills you may be able to judge idiots like the sufies.you see there are many many kinds of sufies , but we talk about them in general, not every kind of them as that would need pages and pages which is very hard to please every persons mentality.so may Allah guide those who aggree even slightly to the sufie punks

ali - 01/03/00 16:41:26
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jazaakum Allahu khayran for your exposing these stupid brainless ,corrupted,adulteress, evil munafiq, faasiqs. i have to stop my self before i lose it. may Allah s.w.t. keep you all on the straight path assalaamu alaykum

Harir Atmar - 12/31/99 22:28:07
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Salams, All i have to say is this nonsense has got to stop, I am not saying I disagree or agree. Its just this ummah needs to be united, especially in the face of the kuffar, when they slit your throat they dont care if you are Shia, Sunni, Sufi, or Salafi, they just care if your Muslim. All disputes will be taken care of on the Day of Judgement. So lets worry about our ownselves b/c we will be alone in our graves by ourself. This just causes fitnah, that's their game "Divide and Conquer", that's how Muslims lost the Ottoman Khilapha, and Palestine.

jafri - 12/19/99 14:12:42
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Kabbani bashing !!!! is mr kabbani trending a populist and pacifist figure instead of a sufist? dikr and mantra and a lil bit o marijuana....you'll grow a bigger head than your turban could hold. go kabbani go , hit the clouds,yes...umph what did ya say? In this context it would be wise to remember the words of Ja‘far as-Sadiq, the teacher of Malik ibn Anas and Abu Hanifah, who said, "He who seeks to command is lost and he who wishes to command is lost." "Beware of those who command and consider themselves leaders; as Allah is my Witness, the man behind whom the sound of sandals [of his partisans] is raised will only perish and cause [others to] perish. He who believes himself to be the chief is damned, he who tries to become one is damned, he who proclaims himself to be one is damned." "Avoid leading people and avoid following people [who presume to lead]." anywayz, Allah is the Knower

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hassan - 11/04/99 00:52:24

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make istigfar because all what you said are big liar and renew your shahada because your becoming a kafir according to a hadith of PROPHET saw you are saying to muslim kafir you are becoming a kafir only one who doesn`t fear allah and the day of jugement cant talk like that

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abdallah mohamed - 11/04/99 00:34:55

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i want to now what is your porpus it seem to me that you are a jews trying to make fitna emongs muslim because the words of hetrads that you are using may allah protect islam and muslim from your satanic words

Faarid Abdullatif - 11/02/99 04:29:07
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As salaamu alaikum.How can one speak of what they don't know about?Sufism and Sufis are hard to understand,because they are coming from the same way of thinking as yourself.It's o.k we expect the patients to doubt the doctors before they're healed.Has one enter Sufism and experience it, question it and then finally say something about it.....no,yous don't.Sufism can't be comprehend by books,talking about it,but only by experience.Even if it's weird.All in all,enter Sufism and enter it open mindedly.Remembe ,Sufism did help expand islam.Wa alaikum as salaam.

Rashid - 11/01/99 03:07:22
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Great site, I wish you great reward for unvieling those disbelievers.

Muslim - 10/28/99 13:58:06
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alsalam alikom I believe it is Haram to put this dancing picture above tha Aiah, would you please remove this picture jazak allah kaira

Al-Ghazzi - 10/21/99 17:11:08

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Jazakum Allahu khairan for this great effort for inviting for the good and forbidding the evil. Brothers may Allah protect you, because what you are doing is what put the prophets and the richest people before us in danger. But Allah will always give vict ry to whome support his religion. Suggestion: If you think it is benifitial to add some links in your page to the web pages on the net of the soofies. To take from thier tongs what will help us open the eyes of many blind muslims.

LaTrella Muhammad - 10/15/99 21:49:57
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Kamran Siknder - 10/14/99 14:54:11
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AS SAlam O' alikum, Excellent wbesite, keep up the good work and may Allah reward you if the niyyah is right. Wa Alaikum As Salam Wa Rahmatullah.

Muhammad Yusuf - 10/13/99 14:01:48

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As-Salaamu 'Alaikum, Before anyone starts condemning Shaikh Nazim or any of his associates, one should first meet the Shaikh himself and ask him whether he actually said these things. The reason is that many of the controversial quotes come from books published by "Zero Publ cations" (including the Mercy Oceans series), whose owner is known to have fabricated quotes from Shaikh Nazim before. Last year she claimed that Shaikh Nazim had called Prince Charles' relationship with Camilla Parker-Bowles halal because she was a "jah iyya" (ie. a slave), which don't exist in England or anywhere. Even some of the Shaikh's followers are confused, and even where they have been proved, someone often comes up with a sunna justification. Please check your facts before you issue such stron ly worded denunciations of a scholar. As for the sister who you claimed was unbiased, she was quoting from the QSS website, which is not unbiased as anyone with any experience knows ... As-Salaamu 'Alaikum wa Rahmatullah, Yusuf.

ISRAR - 10/01/99 21:34:23
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BISMILLAHHIRRAHMANIRRAHEEM ASSALAMOALAIKUMWARAHMATULLAHIWABARAKATUH ALLAH THE GREATEST ALONE IS ENOUGH TO HELP MUSLIM/MUSLIMEEN AND THE MUSHRIKEEN HAVE TO END ON FIRE IF THEY DO NOT DO TAUBA.PLEASE PUT KALIMA ON THE RIGHT AND AND THE AYAT OVER AND ABOVE THE DANCING STATUE OF SUFEE...IT APPEARS AS IF AYAT IS UNDER THE FOOT OF THAT LOUSY CREATURE, WIIL YOU PLS CARE????? JAZAKALLAHKHAIR MAY ALLAH THE ONLY LORD HELP YOU AND ALL MUSLIMEEN AMEEN

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Daawood Muhammad - 09/05/99 01:41:22
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As salaam a laikum, Brother i use to a member of an cult the Nation of Islam and at one time would kill at a drop of the hat for the "Leader". Brother this information you present is shocking!!? Is all of this really true and if so why is Shaykh Kabbani allowed to make Hajj Daawood

muslim - 08/02/99 22:02:06
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asalamu alikm warahmato allah wabarakatoh: i am a muslim guy who was raised and live all his life in syria learning basics islam ,quran, sunnah and i went to alot of dhker and mawleeds and listened to alot of suffies tapes which they call it(NAWBA) they mention all the old shekhs and saints in the suffie way. i was never suffi or against it. learned to love the prophet and read the quran and take islam in its best way. listened to good scholers and learned from them. never woreshipped anybody beside or with allah and never will inshallah...... traveled alot and saw different types of muslims all over the world and hate nobody but SHAYTAN and islam's enemy..... started to read about suffies weeks ago because of brother where i live now,he says he is suffie and never really showed any practice or did anything wrong ,but i dont really like his way in teaching people nor spreading islam...... came to my mind to sreach about suffies and look what they believe in and what are they doing and how do they practice islam... what shocked me is that when i got to the main suffie site on the net which i got to this site from, is that i knew and sang to all of there shikhes without knowing that, i listen to NAWBAH about REFAI,NAQSHABANDI,JAELANI,ETC...... and i really never kne anything about any of these guys other than they were good shekhs and allah had give them some special things like what we call in arabic,KARAMAT. i loved these people and always loved to listen to the tapes that i got from back home about mawled and had a and nawbah.....always listened and sang but never thought. are these tapes right??? are they from islam in anything? do we woreship allah by doing such a thing?? the answer came to me yesterday when i was coming back from visiting a new muslim family in a small farm in the side of a town where i live now.... listening carefully and paying attention to what is saying in the tape made me really think about suffies and there believes. how called you prophet mohamad (pbuh) noron ala nor???? isnt that in the quran ,when allah talks about himself???? how could we call the prophet the same as allah???that was one of the things i cought, the other is , how could you ask a shekh or an imam f r madad?? do you what the word madad means? if you understand arabic you would say, yes i means given, comeing from the world, mada,yamodo fahowa maded. when you tell the shekh madad and baraka, who is dead give me hdaya, give me baraka from yor noor (lig t) or whatever,you are putting the shekh in a place next to allah or maybe above him.is that from islam in anything????? did any of the sahaba ask the prophet to give them madad/????? did the prophet himself tell them to ask him or ask the good people fro that ??? of course he never did. thats all not halal and by doing that, you are loving and thinking of you shakh more than allah and his book. it came to a time wheni didnt want to listen to quran, only tapes and i am not even suffies or considered suffie... i cant tell you that you can call people names or nonmuslims or nonbelievers but i can tell you becarful, you dont call someone who says la ilaha ila allah,mohamad rasolo allah, a kafer, but you can show evedince that he or she or they are wrong. becarful with the world kaffer, prophet mohamad(pbuh)never called someone who said the shahada a kaffer. you should show your point and prove it and bring you evedince and sources and then say, allaho a'lam..... we are going through a very hard time, islam is being corrapted with so many things and we should try to clear it up for the umma and go back to what the prophet and his sahaba were at...... al halalo bain wal haramo bain. every muslim should look and learn and know what is right and what is wrong. we should stay away from everything that could spoil our deen and our faith in allah. we need nothing to bring us closer to allah more than our prayers and the quran and the saheh hadith. follow the salafo al saleh and avoid following innovations......... its so clear and obvious and clear as a crystal, pray, learn the quran,hadith, do your dheker that the prophet told you about and spread islam in its best way and inshallah you will be doing what is best for you and the whole umma......... walaho ala ma aqulo shahed your brother in islam muslim

muslim - 08/02/99 21:54:56
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asalamu alikm warahmato allah wabarakatoh: i am a muslim guy who was raised and live all his life in syria learning basics islam ,quran, sunnah and i went to alot of dhker and mawleeds and listened to alot of suffies tapes which they call it(NAWBA) they mention all the old shekhs and saints in the suffie way. i was never suffi or against it. learned to love the prophet and read the quran and take islam in its best way. listened to good scholers and learned from them. never woreshipped anybody beside or with allah and never will inshallah...... traveled alot and saw different types of muslims all over the world and hate nobody but SHAYTAN and islam's enemy..... started to read about suffies weeks ago because of brother where i live now,he says he is suffie and never really showed any practice or did anything wrong ,but i dont really like his way in teaching people nor spreading islam...... came to my mind to sreach about suffies and look what they believe in and what are they doing and how do they practice islam... what shocked me is that when i got to the main suffie site on the net which i got to this site from, is that i know and sing to all of there shikhes with knowing that, i listen to NAWBAH about REFAI,NAQSHABANDI,JAELANI,ETC...... and i really never anythin about any of these guys other than they were good shekhs and allah had give them some special things like what we call in arabic,KARAMAT. i loved these people and always loved to listen to the tapes that i got from back home about mawled and hadra and na bah.....always listen and sang but never thought. are these tapes right??? are they from islam in anything? do we woreship allah by doing such a thing?? the answer came to me yesterday when i was coming back from visiting a new muslim family in a small farm in the sie of a town where i live now.... listening carefully and paying attention to what is saying in the tape made me really thin about suffies and there believes. how called you prophet mohamad (pbuh) noron ala nor???? isnt that in the quran ,when allah talks about himself???? how could we call the prophet the same as allah???that was one of the things i cought, the other is , how could you ask a shekh or an imam f r madad?? do you what the word madad means? if you understand aranic you would say, yes i means given, comeing from the world, mada,yamodo fahowa maded. when you tell the shekh madad and baraka, who is dead give me hdaya, give me baraka from yor noor (lig t) or whatever,you are putting the shekh in a place next to allah or maybe above him.is that from islam in anything????? did any of the sahaba ask the prophet to give them madad/????? did the prophet himself tell them to ask him or ask the good people fro that ??? of course he never did. thats all not halal and by doing that, you are loving and thinking of you shakh more than allah and his book. it came to a time wheni didnt want to listen to quran, only tapes and i am not even suffies or considered suffie... i cant tell you that you can call people names or nonmuslims or nonbelievers but i can tell you becarful, you dont call someone who says la ilaha ila allah,mohamad rasolo allah, a kafer, but you can show evedince that he or she or they are wrong. becarful with the world kaffer, prophet mohamad(pbuh)never called someone who said the shahada a kaffer. you should show your point and prove it and bring you evedince and sources and then say, allaho a'lam..... we are going through a very hard time, islam is being corrapted with so many things and we should try to clear it up for the umma and go back to what the prophet and his sahaba were at...... al halalo bain wal haramo bain. every muslim should look and learn and know what is right and what is wrong. we should stay away from everything that could spoil our deen and our faith in allah. we need nothing to bring us closer to allah more than our prayers and the quran and the saheh hadith. follow the salafo al saleh and avoid following innovations......... its so clear and obvious and clear as a crystal, pray, learn the quran,hadith, do your dheker that the prophet told you about and spread islam in its best way and inshallah you will be doing what is best for you and the whole umma......... walaho ala ma aqulo shahed your brother in islam muslim

A Sister - 07/14/99 02:47:21

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Assalaamu 3alaikum warahmatullaah.

I hate Qabbani as much as anyone, and I agree with everyting you guys say about him, however, it is worth pointing out that Qabbani is NOT a true Sufi, NOT a Naqshabandi, NOT anything of the sort. In fact, he has been condemned by major (REAL) Sufi shey kh in Syria.

Recently, my husband's friend in California sat in a dhikr session of Qabbani near his home in California. My husband and his friend are both from Syria and have contacts with eminent sheyukh there. Being a little confused about what he saw there, my hu band's friend called up a major Sufi sheykh in Damascus (I don't remember the name, I'm afraid) and asked him about the "dhikr" he was doing, and the sheykh told him not to attend any more sessions with him because it was incorrect. Then, when my husband s friend revealed that Qabbani was the person in question, Qabbani being the flag-bearer of Nazim Al-Qubrusi, the sheykh in Damascus had the following to say:

Sheykh Abdullaah Ad-Daghestaani had four major students. For those who don't know, Ad-Daghestaani was a major Sufi scholar, one which Qabbani claims in his book _The Naqshabandi Sufi Way_ is a "saint" and attributes various sayings and miracles to him. ccording to the sheykh in Damascus, Ad-Daghestaani had four major students. Three of them, he said, remained on the Right Path. One of them, Naazim Al-Qubrusi, the teacher of Qabbani, strayed from the true Sufi path.

So Naazim and Qabbani are neither Sufi nor Naqshabandi. If you read the works of people like Ahmad Sirhindi, you will find that there are variations on the meanings of the words "Sufi" and "Naqshabandi" and that, although many "Sufis" were/are on the WRO G path, there are some on the right path, and Allaah knows best.

FuZIon - 06/24/99 04:22:09

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Nice site with good info on exposing these Jews, i mean sufis. what was that tasaWoof, it sounded like dogs gettin molested. if this is the way sufis practice then alhamdullillah they are on the right path. yeah right, a bunch of crack heads. Are they cal in to tha jinns when they do these dhikr circles or is it that they are raping male jinns, i dont know. How did they get so much cash, they are a bunch of millionaires, scamming people out of their hard earned money and investing it in fortunetelling and etting in circles and molesting dogs. It is sick, i dont see how anybody would want to join the sufis, it is probably safer to go to a nightclub than to sufi temples cuz there is less fitnah, less dancing and drunkardness, and no molesting of jinns. i am lad somebody set up a site to refute their millions of sites on Kabbani. good job

Hazem Nasereddin - 06/11/99 21:38:52
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Baraka allahu feek ya akhi, Wa jazaka allahu khairan, wa baraka feek. I like your page and I cnourage you to keep steadfast on the truth. However I advise you to keep the emotions down, rationial people want to read rationial talk. Irrationial people want to follow their ahwaa', and in order to get to the rational people I encourage you to drop down the emotion and just concentrate on the facts, which ma sha' allah you seem to have a lot of. Again, jazaka allahu khairan on this great web site.

.. - 05/24/99 00:28:12

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"kolluhum fe Nar illa wahad." this means all muslim sects will be in jahanam except for 1. only one (that follows Quran and Sunna). Also in the hadith on the day of judgement there will be beleivers who will come towards the lake f Kawthar and will attemp to drink from it. Then they will be pulled away, unable to drink it. The Prophet said they were people who ADDED INNOVATION to the deen.

Mohamed Baksh - 05/19/99 23:25:41
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This is a sincere question. Are you a Muslim?. What is your motive?. Are you spreading Islam or destroying it? You have a lot of hate and anger built up in you. Get some help.

- 05/18/99 12:46:28

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UMM Yahyah - 05/12/99 22:09:54
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Assalam Brother your site looks very profressional i must say. But the daleel is very week. Your resources cannot be considered as you are not a scholar or afiliated with the any classical authority, who gives you permission to teach . You need to come to learn classical deen before you propagate this modern interpretation. If we believe to follow Quran and Sunnah why do we follow are desires? You slag one group off, they slag you etc.. Where is the manners attributed to the Quran and Sunnah? I think both the deluded Kabbani and yourself need to rethink on niyyah! We must fear Allah and humble ourself. The love for fame will destroy you and people likewise. You cannot really believe someone will take you serious with a cut&paste webs

Osamma - 05/08/99 23:02:48
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I hear the brother who built this site actually used to attend dhikr gatherings before becoming a so-called salafee? Interesting. His father is a brelvee! Looks like this website is a emotinal kick. May Allah guide the brother for all the fitna he's trying to introduce. His name is Nabeel and he lives around Croydon I believe. This is not personal but people should know the background of the guy. right. And look at the angle of the argument. Is he have a chip on his shoulder against the sufee gus? Ask him. And yu'll probally get jumped. I hear also were this brother comes from, they beat up a sufee guy? Following the Qur'an and Sunnah? I thinks enough said Salaam alaa rasool-e-karim Wasaalaaam

Osamma - 05/08/99 23:02:21
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I hear the brother who built this site actually used to attend dhikr gatherings before becoming a so-called salafee? Interesting. His father is a brelvee! Looks like this website is a emotinal kick. May Allah guide the brother for all the fitna he's trying to introduce. His name is Nabeel and he lives around Croydon I believe. This is not personal but people should know the background of the guy. right. And look at the angle of the argument. Is he have a chip on his shoulder against the sufee gus? Ask him. And yu'll probally get jumped. I hear also were this brother comes from, they beat up a sufee guy? Following the Qur'an and Sunnah? I thinks enough said Salaam alaa rasool-e-karim Wasaalaaam

porla paarla - 05/06/99 21:44:02
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The Re-Formers of Islam The Mas'ud Questions (c) Nuh Ha Mim Keller 1995 Question 6 The Ijazas of Ibn Baz and al-Albani The Salafis allege that both Ibn Baz and al-Albani have ijazas (authorizations of mastery of a book, etc. in Islamic knowledge from the scholar it was studied with) from great sheikhs. They say that al-Alba i has an ijaza from some sheikhs in Syria, do you have any information on this? Answer Our teacher in hadith, Sheikh Shu‘ayb al-Arna’ut, tells my wife and me that Sheikh Nasir al-Albani learned his hadith knowledge from books and manuscripts in the Dha iriyya Library in Damascus, as well as his long years working on books of hadith. He did not get any significant share of his knowledge from living hadith scholars, according to Sheikh Shu‘ayb, for the very good reason that there wasn’t anyone in Damascus at the time who knew much about hadith, and he didn’t travel anywhere else to learn. I have heard Salafis say that he has an ijaza from one person in Syria, but it could only be (according to Sheikh Shu‘ayb) from someone with far less knowledge than himse f. I believe Sheikh Shu‘ayb about this, because his family, like Sheikh Nasir’s, were of the Albanians who emmigrated to Damascus at the collapse of the Ottoman Empire, and they all know each other rather intimately. The impression one gets is that Sheik Nasir’s father, Sheikh Nuh al-Albani, was so strict a Hanafi that he produced something of an over-reaction in Sheikh Nasir not only against Abu Hanifa and his madhhab, but against traditional Islamic sheikhs as well. According to Sheikh Shu‘ayb, Sheikh asir studied tajwid or ‘Qur’anic recitation’ and perhaps the Hanafi fiqh primer Maraqi al-falah [The ascents to success] with his father Sheikh Nuh al-Albani, and possibly other lessons in Hanafi fiqh from Sheikh Muhammad Sa‘id al-Burhani, who taught in T wba Mosque, in the quarter of the Turks on the side of Mount Qasiyun, near Sheikh Nasir’s father’s shop. Sheikh Nasir subsequently found that his time could be more profitably spent with books and manuscripts at the Dhahiriyya Library and in reading works to students, and he did not attend anyone else’s lessons. As for his ijaza or ‘warrant of learning,’ Sheikh Shu‘ayb tells us that it came when a hadith scholar from Aleppo, Sheikh Raghib al-Tabbakh, was visiting the Dhahiriyya Library in Damascus, and Sh ikh Nasir was pointed out to him as a promising student of hadith. They met and spoke, the sheikh authorized him "in all the chains of transmission that I have been authorized to relate"—that is to say, a general ijaza, though Sheikh Nasir did not attend he lessons of the sheikh or read books of hadith with him. Sheikh Raghib al-Tabbakh had chains of sheikhs reaching back to the main hadith works, such as Sahih al-Bukhari, the Sunan of Abu Dawud, and hence had a contiguous chain back to the Prophet (Allah bless him and give him peace) for these books. But this was an authorization (ijaza) of tabarruk, or ‘for the blessing of it,’ not a ‘warrant of learning’—for Sheikh Nasir did not go to Aleppo to learn from him, and he did not come to Damascus to teach hi . This type of authorization (ijaza), that of tabarruk, is a practice of some traditional scholars: to give an authorization in order to encourage a student whom they have met and like, whom they find knowledgeable, or hope will become a scholar. The rea on I know of such ijazas is because I have one, from the Meccan hadith scholar Sheikh Muhammad ‘Alawi al-Maliki, which authorizes me to relate "all the chains of transmission that I [Muhammad ‘Alawi al-Maliki] have been authorized to relate by my sheikhs, including chains of transmission reaching back to the hadith Imams Malik, al-Bukhari, Muslim, Abu Dawud, al-Tirmidhi, al-Nasa’i, Ibn Majah (Mecca: Muhammad ‘Alawi al-Maliki, 1412/1992). Though my name is on the authorization, and it is signed by the shei h, it does not make me a hadith scholar like he is, because aside from some of his public lessons, my hadith knowledge is not from him but from Sheikh Shu‘ayb, whom I have actually studied with. Rather, Sheikh al-Maliki knows my sheikhs in Damascus, that am the translator of ‘Umdat al-salik [Reliance of the traveller] in Shafi‘i fiqh, that we have known each other for some time, and he approves of my way. The scholarly value of such ijazas is merely to establish that we have met. As for Ibn Baz, I do no know who he studied with, though from his broadcasts on the radio, I would be most surprised if he had ever studied with someone uncommitted to what he and his colleagues simply call the da‘wa or ‘propagation,’ that is, of the revisions of Islam advocate by Muhammad ibn ‘Abd al-Wahhab. As it is unlawful to say anything disliked about a Muslim except for an interest countenanced by Sacred Law, the following discussion will not exceed (a) whether these revisions constitute a sectarian emphasis differing f om traditional Islam; and (b) if sectarian, how this influences issues that Sheikh Nasir and Ibn Baz might otherwise be believed about. I mention this to you, because, as you may know, some people take offense at the word Wahhabi—and with good reason, if we mean to suggest that they do not love Islam, or are not trying to practice it to the best of their understanding and ability. I feel this is true of virtually all separatist groups, from the beginning of Islam. Provided they do not negate something nec ssarily known to be of the religion (necessarily known meaning that which any Muslim would know about if asked), all these groups may be said to have tried to understand and apply the Qur’an and the sunna, even though their understanding has brought them o a mistaken conclusion. This is why Shari‘a manuals say things like: They [those who rise in insurrection against the caliph] are subject to Islamic laws (because they have not committed an act that puts them outside of Islam that they should be conside ed non-Muslims. Nor are they considered morally corrupt (fasiq), for rebels is not a perjorative term, but rather they merely have a mistaken understanding), and the decisions of their Islamic judge are considered legally effective (provided he does not d clare the lives of upright Muslims to be justly forfeitable) if they are such as would be effective if made by our own judge (Reliance of the Traveller, 594). The fact that such people may consider other Muslims not of their sect to be non-Muslims—the ha lmark of heterodox (batil) sects of all times and places—does not change the above rulings, and the caliph or his representative may use only enough force to end the strife. We find in the Hashiya radd al-muhtar ‘ala al-Durr al-mukhtar sharh Tanwir al-abs r [(Ibn ‘Abidin’s) Commentary: the guide of the perplexed, upon (Haskafi’s) The choice pearls, an exegesis of (Tumurtashi’s) Illumination of eyes], whose every word is considered a decisive evidence (nass) in the Hanafi school: (al-Haskafi:) Those who re olt against obedience to the imam [meaning the caliph or his representative] are of three types: (1) highwaymen, and their ruling is known [n: i.e. the death penalty, if they do not give themselves up before they are caught]; (2) rebels (bughat) against the caliphate, whose ruling will be discussed below [n: i.e. they are fought with as much force as needed to make them desist, as in the Reliance above]; (3) and kharijites, meaning men with military force who revolt against the imam because of a mistake scriptural interpretation (ta’wil), believing that he is upon a falsehood of unbelief (kufr) or disobedience to Allah (ma‘siya) that necessitates their fighting him, according to their mistaken scriptural interpretation, and who consider it lawful to tak our lives, our property, and take our women as slaves, and who consider the Companions of our Prophet (Allah bless him and give him peace) to be disbelievers. Their ruling is the same as that of rebels (bughat) against the caliphate [n: (2) above] by una imous consensus of fiqh scholars. (Ibn ‘Abidin:) His words and who consider the Companions of our Prophet (Allah bless him and give him peace) to be disbelievers are not a condition for someone to be a kharijite, but rather are a mere clarification of wh t those who revolted against ‘Ali (Allah Most High be well pleased with him) in fact did. Otherwise, it is enough to be convinced of the unbelief of those they fight against, as happened in our own times with the followers of [Muhammad ibn] ‘Abd al-Wahhab who came out of the Najd in revolt, and took over the sanctuaries of Mecca and Medina. They followed the Hanbali madhhab, but believed that they were the Muslims, and that those who believed differently than they did were polytheists (mushrikin). On this basis, they held it lawful to kill Sunni Muslims (Ahl al-Sunna) and their religious scholars, until Allah Most High dispelled their forces, and the armies of the Muslims attacked their strongholds and subdued them in 1233 A.H. [1818] (Hashiya radd al-muht r, 4.262). The Shafi‘i mufti of Mecca, Ahmad ibn Zayni Dahlan (d. 1304/1886), a historian as well as a scholar, recorded the story of the Wahhabis’ takeover of the holy places in a number of books, one of which, his two-volume history al-Futuhat al-Islam yya [The Islamic conquests], gives the following description of what became perhaps their most famous, and certainly their most lethal ijtihad; namely, that the sunna of tawassul or ‘supplicating Allah through an intermediary’ was shirk: Muhammad ibn ‘Ab al-Wahhab claimed that his aim in this school of thought he innovated was to make sincere the belief in Allah’s unity (tawhid), and to abjure worshipping false gods (shirk), and that Muslims had been worshipping false gods for six hundred years, and that he had revived their religion for them. He interpreted Qur’anic verses revealed about worshippers of false gods (mushrikin) as referring to those who worship Allah alone, such as the word of Allah Most High, "And who is further astray than he who supplic tes apart from Allah someone who will not answer him until Resurrection Day, while they are oblivious to their supplication" (Qur’an 46:5), and His word, "Do not supplicate besides Allah what will not benefit or harm you" (Qur’an 10:106). There are man such verses in the Qur’an , so Muhammad ibn ‘Abd al-Wahhab said that whoever seeks the help of the Prophet (Allah bless him and give him peace) or others, of the prophets, the friends of Allah (awliya’), or the righteous; or calls on him or asks him to i tercede—was like such worshippers of false gods, and was referred to by the generality of such verses. He believed the same thing about visiting the tomb of the Prophet (Allah bless him and give him peace) and all others of the prophets, friends of Allah, or the righteous. He said about the word of Allah Most High, who quotes the idolators about worshipping their idols: "We only worship them that they may bring us the nearer to Allah" (Qur’an 39:3) that people who pray to Allah by means of an intermediar (tawassul) are like these worshippers of false gods who said, "We only worship them that they may bring us the nearer to Allah." He said that the worshippers of false gods didn’t believe their idols created anything, but rather that the Creator was Allah Most High, as shown by Allah’s word "And if you ask them who created them, they will say, ‘Allah’" (Qur’an 43:87), and, "And if you ask them who created the heavens and earth, they will say, ‘Allah’" (Qur’an 31:25), such that Allah did not judge them o have committed unbelief and worshipping false gods except for their saying, "that they may bring us all the nearer to Allah," and in consequence, these people [Muslims who make tawassul] are like them. And this is simply wrong, for Muslim believers do ot take the prophets (upon whom be peace) or the friends of Allah as gods or make them co-partners (shuraka’) with Allah, but rather, they believe that they are created slaves of Allah and do not deserve any worship. As for the worshippers of false gods hom these Qur’anic verses were revealed about, they believed that their idols were gods, and reverenced them with the reverence of godhood, even if they acknowledged that they did not create anything—while believers do not hold that the prophets or awliya deserve worship or godhood, and do not reverence them with the reverence due solely to the Divine. Instead, they believe that they are the servants of Allah, and His beloved ones, whom He has elected and chosen, and through His blessings to them (baraka) He shows mercy towards His slaves. Their intention in seeking blessings through them is the mercy of Allah Most High, and much attests to the validity of this in the Qur’an and sunna. The creed of the Muslims is that the Creator—He Who Afflicts, He Who enefits, He who deserves worship—is Allah alone. They do not believe that anyone else has any effect whatsoever; and they believe that the prophets and awliya’ do not create anything, do not possess any ability to benefit or harm, but merely that through llah’s grace to them (baraka), He shows mercy towards created servants. It was the belief of the worshippers of false gods that their idols deserved worship and godhood that made them guilty of associating co-partners with Allah (shirk), not merely their saying, "We only worship them that they may bring us the nearer to Allah." For it was only when it was proved to them that their idols did not deserve to be worshipped—as they believed they did—that they said by way of excuse, "We only worship them that t ey may bring us nearer to Allah." So how should Ibn ‘Abd al-Wahhab and his followers consider believers who acknowledge the unity of tawhid to be comparable to those worshippers of false gods who believed in the godhood of their idols? For all the above- entioned verses and those like them specifically refer to non-Muslims and worshippers of false gods, while not a single believer enters into them. Bukhari relates from ‘Abdullah ibn ‘Umar (Allah be well pleased with father and son) who related from the P ophet (Allah bless him and give him peace) that in [foretelling the] description of the Kharijites, he said that they would "proceed to Qur’anic verses revealed about non-Muslims, and interpret them as if they referred to believers." And in another hadit , also from Ibn ‘Umar, the Prophet (Allah bless him and give him peace) said, "The thing I fear most for my Umma is a man who interprets the Qur’an taking it out of its context"; both of these hadiths being applicable to this sect. If believers’ praying o Allah through an intermediary (tawassul) and the like were worshipping false gods, it wouldn’t have been done first by the Prophet himself (Allah bless him and give him peace), his Companions, and the Muslim Umma, from first to last (Dahlan, al-Futuhat l-Islamiyya [Cairo: al-Maktaba al-Tijariyya al-Kubra, 1354/1935], 2.258–59). This passage shows us why the Wahhabis’ were considered like Kharijites, men who, as al-Haskafi notes above, revolted against the imam "because of a mistaken scriptural interpre ation (ta’wil)," believing that he was "upon a falsehood of unbelief (kufr) or disobedience to Allah (ma‘siya) that necessitates their fighting him." The main difficulty with their theory that tawassul amounted to worshipping false gods was the fact that it was taught to the Umma by the Prophet (Allah bless him and give him peace)—something you have asked about and will be discussed in question (9) below—which was perhaps why no one in the previous eleven centuries of Islamic scholarship before Muhammad i n ‘Abd al-Wahhab had ever noticed that it was unbelief. In this respect, it is fortunate that Ibn ‘Abd al-Wahhab didn’t get his hands on his own Imam, Ahmad ibn Hanbal, who enjoined his most outstanding student, Abu Bakr Ahmad ibn Muhammad al-Marrudhi (d 275/888) to make tawassul through the Prophet (Allah bless him and give him peace). Al-Marrudhi relates the tawassul of the hadith of the Companion (Sahabi) ‘Uthman ibn Hunayf containing the words, "O Allah, verily, I turn to You through Your prophet Muh mmad, the Prophet of Mercy (Allah bless him and give him peace); O Muhammad, verily I turn through you to my Lord, that He may fulfill my need [emphasis the translator’s]"—which al-Marrudhi relates from Ahmad ibn Hanbal in the "Chapter on Supplications" o his Kitab al-mansak [Book of Hajj and ‘Umra]. This is mentioned by Ibn Taymiya (Qa‘ida jalila fi al-tawassul wa al-wasila [N.d. Reprint. Beirut: al-Maktaba al-‘Ilmiyya, n.d.], 98), whom I tend to believe on it, since it is something whose sunna character he tries to disprove his Imam about, though without conceiving it to be idolatry (shirk) or unbelief (kufr), as the Wahhabis did more than four centuries later. Muhammad ibn ‘Abd al-Wahhab is gone today, together with the fatwas he gave that resulted in he attacks on Mecca, Ta’if, and Medina beginning in 1205/1790 by "reformers" who believed that the lives, women, and money of ordinary Sunni Muslims who did not feel that tawassul was shirk could be lawfully taken by those who did. There are no more Wahha is in this sense. As King Fahd (who, on the whole, has had a positive, moderating influence) said a few years ago in a speech, "We are not Wahhabis, we are Hanbalis." Yet if the "revolt" (in al-Haskafi’s words) is gone, the "mistaken scriptural interpret tion" remains; and its intellectual influence is still strong on all aspects of the religious establishment in Saudi Arabia. Many of the questions you have asked deal specifically with ideas aggressively packaged and exported to other Muslim countries und r the aegis of Ibn Baz, and given currency by the support of Sheikh Nasir and his followers. These are revisions to traditional Islam, and if many ordinary Muslims have forgotten this, it is due to the extent to which they have succeeded, abetted by heav subsidizing and the present lack of traditional scholars (‘ulama) to teach Muslims the truth. Yet one cannot but feel they mark a transient phase, for Allah has promised to protect the din, and if the rebuttals of classical scholars were heard, these inn vations would melt away. In the meantime, "reforms" have been slated for all three pillars of the din, Islam (Shari‘a), Iman (‘Aqida), and Ihsan (Tariqa), and can perhaps be best summarized under these headings: (1) Islam (Shari‘a): To their credit, the ovement we are speaking of has revived interest in hadith among Islamic scholars across the board. But the emphasis on hadith and its ancillary disciplines to the exclusion of other Islamic sciences equally essential to understanding the revelation, such s fiqh methodology, or the conditioning of hadith by general principles expressed in the Qur’an , has created the false dichotomy in many Muslims’ minds of either fiqh or hadith. And this is an intellectual bid‘a of the most ominous sort for Islam, which as never accepted ijtihad from non-mujtahids, or anything short of the fiqh (literally "understanding subtle points") of hadith. One sad outcome of dichotomizing fiqh and hadith is the revival of Dhahiri thought we have talked about above, with its "fall cy of misplaced literalism" in interpreting primary scriptural texts. Such literalism necessarily forces itself upon someone trained in hadith alone (like Sheikh Nasir) if he tries to deduce Shari‘a rulings without mastery of the interpretive tools needed to meet the challenges that face the mujtahid, for example, in joining between a number of hadiths on a particular question that seem to conflict, or the many other intellectual problems involved in doing ijtihad. This strident Dhahirism—especially among heikh Nasir’s followers—has made some contemporary Muslims seriously believe that it is a matter of either following "the Qur’an and sunna," or one of the schools of the mujtahid Imams. Now, the big lie has only gained credibility today because so few Mu lims understand what ijtihad is or how it is done. I believe this can be cured by familiarizing Muslims with concrete examples of how mujtahid Imams derive particular Shari‘a rulings from the Qur’an and hadith, examples which first, demonstrate the breadt of their hadith knowledge (Muhammad ibn ‘Ubayd Allah ibn al-Munadi (d. 272/886) relates that Ahmad ibn Hanbal said that having memorized three hundred thousand hadiths was not enough to be a mujtahid), and second, demonstrate their mastery of the deducti e principles that enable one to join between all the primary texts. Until this is done, the advocates of this movement will probably continue to follow the ijtihad of non-mujtahids (the sheikhs who inspire their confidence), under the catch phrase "Qur’an and sunna" just as if the real mujtahids were unfamiliar with the obligation of following these. The followers perhaps cannot be blamed, since "for someone who has never travelled, his mother is the only cook." But I do blame the sheikhs who, whatever the r motivations, write and speak as if they were the only cooks. (2) Iman (‘Aqida): The uncritical acceptance and subsidizing of Ibn Taymiya’s and Ibn Qayyim al-Jawziyya’s opinions in ‘aqida has had a number of results. One is that Ibn Taymiya’s denial of all figurative expression (majaz) in the Qur’an , what we have called above "misplaced literalism," has caused the anthropomorphism it brings to most minds to spread to the horizons, under the slogan of a "return to the ‘aqida of early Muslims," which, as explained above, it most certainly is not. In this connection, I was recently speaking with Mawlana ‘Abdullah Muhammad Yusuf Kakakhail, a scholar of Islamic belief (usul al-din) from Islamabad, who told me that he graduated from the Islamic University in Medina in 1966, and shortly afterwards, on the verge of returning home, had been summoned to the office of the vice-rector of the university, who expressed his disappointment that the student had not benefited more from his studies in Islamic faith (‘aqid ). The vice-rector said he knew ‘Abdullah was returning to Pakistan with the same tenets of faith he had had when he came. They got to talking about the mutashabihat or ‘unapparent in meaning’ Qur’anic verses and hadiths, and the discussion turned to Alla ’s ‘hand’ (Qur’an 48:10). "You say," the young man told the vice-rector, "That ‘the hand is known, but the how of it is unknown.’ What does the unknownness of this how mean?" The vice-rector said, "It means we do not know whether the hand is black or whit , or whether it is long or short." The vice-rector’s name was Ibn Baz, and this was what was being offered at the time as the da‘wa or ‘invitation’—apparently to the faith (‘aqida) that inspired the ceiling of the Sistine Chapel. Secondly, the yawning gu f between this kind of anthropomorphism and the entire previous Qur’an tafsir literature has necessitated the explanation that someone (namely, the Ash‘ari school) has crept in upon the Umma and altered the "‘aqida of the early Muslims" that is alleged to have been there before (but now cannot be found). This has in turn divided the field of ‘aqida into two camps, pro- and anti-Ash‘ari, whereas for the previous thousand years, Sunni Muslims agreed upon the orthodoxy of the Ash‘ari and Maturidi schools. Why was something fixed that was not broken? Indeed, when a wealthy trader from Jedda brought to life the long-dead ‘aqida of Ibn Taymiya at the beginning of this century by financing the printing in Egypt of Ibn Taymiya’s Minhaj al-sunna al-nabawiyya and ot er works, the Mufti of Egypt Muhammad Bakhit al-Muti‘i, faced with new questions about the validity of anthropomorphism, wrote: "It was a fitna (strife) that was sleeping; may Allah curse him who awakened it." But perhaps the most ill-starred ‘aqida lega y of the historical Wahhabi movement is something now practiced from the Najd to the Indian Subcontinent, to the East and the West; namely, the ease with which Muslims call each other "unbelievers." Whether it is over a fiqh question like tawassul, or an aqida question like the above, this is precisely the sectarianism which Allah forbids in the Qur’an with the words, "And do not be like those who separated into factions and differed between themselves" (Qur’an 3:105), Sectarianism of this sort is somet ing that did not exist in traditional Sunni Islam for the previous thousand years, but rather represents a break with that tradition. Whether we justify it in the name of an ‘Islamic reform,’ or a ‘return to early Islam,’ sectarianism is and remains the k nd of bid‘a of misguidance of which the Prophet (Allah bless him and give him peace) said in the hadith of Muslim, "Whoever innovates something in this matter of ours that is not from it shall have it rejected" (Muslim 3.1343). (3) Ihsan (Tariqa): The t ird of the re-forms, and among the most aggressively pursued today is an attempt to finish tasawwuf or ‘Sufism’ as one of the Islamic sciences, though there is no doubt that it has been considered as such by virtually all classical scholars since the reli ious sciences were first recorded. Our times have seen the printing and reprinting of works like ‘Abd al-Rahman ibn al-Jawzi’s Talbis Iblis [The Devil’s deception] passages of which criticize "the Sufis" (meaning groups of them in his time) without mentio ing that a great many of the biographies of his five-volume Sifa al-safwa [Description of the elect] are the very Sufis quoted in extenso in Qushayri’s classic work on Sufism al-Risala al-Qushayriyya. Though Sufism exists for the good reason that the sun a we have been commanded to follow is not just the words and outward actions of the Prophet (Allah bless him and give him peace), but also his states, such as reliance on Allah (tawakkul), sincerity (ikhlas), forbearance (hilm), patience (sabr), humility tawadu‘), perpetual remembrance of Allah, and so on. Many, many hadiths and Qur’anic verses indicate the obligatory character of attaining these and hundreds of other states of the heart, such as the hadith related by Muslim that the Prophet (Allah bless im and give him peace) said, "No one will enter paradise who has a particle of arrogance in his heart" (Muslim, 1.93). or the sahih hadith in the Sunan of Abu Dawud about the obligatoriness of having presence of heart in the prayer (salat), that ‘Ammar bn Yasir heard the Prophet (Allah bless him and give him peace) say, "Verily, a man leaves, and none of his prayer has been recorded for him except a tenth of it, a ninth of it, an eighth of it, a seventh of it, a sixth of it, a fifth of it, a fourth of t, a third of it, or a half of it" (Sunan Abi Dawud [N.d. Reprint. Istanbul: al-Maktaba al-Islamiyya, n.d.] 1.211). Half a minute’s reflection should show each of us where we stand on these aspects of our din, and why in classical times, helping Muslims o attain these states was not left to amateurs, but rather delegated to ‘Ulama' of the heart, the scholars of Islamic Sufism. As in other Islamic sciences, mistakes historically did occur in Sufism, most of them stemming from not recognizing the Shari‘a nd tenets of faith (‘aqida) of Ahl al-Sunna as being above every human being. But these mistakes were not different in principle from, for example, the Isra’iliyyat (baseless tales of Bani Isra’il) that crept into Qur’anic exegesis (tafsir) literature, or the mawdu‘at (hadith forgeries) that crept into the body of prophetic hadith. These were not taken as proof that tafsir was bad, or hadith was deviance, but rather, in each discipline, the errors were identified and warned against by the Imams of the fiel , because the Umma needed the rest. And such corrections are precisely what we find in books like Qushayri’s Risala, Ghazali’s Ihya’ and other works of Sufism. In contrast, the re-formers of our times have hit upon the expedient of creating doubts of the e being any genuine Islamic science to attain spiritual sincerity in a systematic and knowledge-based way. But perhaps today they are beginning to realize that if one ends all spiritual aspiration, one will only produce numbers of aggressive Muslims with o other means of feeling more religious than by arguing to prove their fellow Muslims are less so—an unenviable condition described in the hadith of the Prophet (Allah bless him and give him peace), "No people went astray after guidance, except that they were afflicted with arguing." To summarize, the movement to re-form our din attacks the scholarly authority that has traditionally been the support of its three pillars: in Islam, by turning Muslim’s hearts against the madhhabs that are our Shari‘a; in I an, by presenting Ibn Taymiya’s anthropomorphism as the ‘way of the early Muslims’; and in Ihsan, by trying to close the door of traditional Islamic spirituality once and for all. Sheikh Nasir and Ibn Baz are among the main luminaries of the movement, an the latter’s whole career shows an emphasis on these reforms, from the publications printed under his auspices and distributed across the globe, to the funding of Wahhabi U. graduates to return from Medina to their homelands to disseminate the teachings f sect, tirelessly retelling of how few Muslims scholars over the last fourteen hundred years have truly understood Islam as it was understood by the Prophet (Allah bless him and give him peace) and themselves. So perhaps the best answer to your question about the ijazas of these two men is to ask in turn: What relevance to such re-formers should the traditional ijaza system have, when its function was to preserve intact the understanding of Islam by traditional scholars down through the centuries, an und rstanding they wish to change? Nuh Ha Mim Keller''s Menu Return to Mas'ud Ahmed Khan's Home Page Send Me Your Comments

LyNCh MOb - 04/24/99 06:11:56

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man your site is dope. All yall sufiz need to stop talkin mess cuz i been to some of your webpages. They have more bs than what kabbani spits out in front of congress. He aint nuthin but bill clintonz hoe. Anywayz, yall sufis talk mess about every scholar in tha history of islam. But when somebody wanna drop tha truth on Kabbani yall get all offended. Man go spin and sway in tha forest. Yall make me sick. ThA only reply yall got is yall a bunch of salafiz or wahabis or takfeeris, yall need to get off that rack, stop spinnin, swayin, fabricatin, and open up a book of hadith. Stop makin up your own hadiths just to suit your needs. I read yall sufi magazine called the so called muslim magazine and had a good laugh while readin the dream interpretations by SoC lledSh. Kabbani. Hey he told the future too, something the prophet couldnt even do. Hey if yall saw in a dream that alcohol was halal would yall drink too. Stop frontin like yall gonna do something cuz yall jewish sufis need to find out what true islam is Sooner or later yall jewish sufis are gonna be exposed and your deviance will come to an end. whoever made this site you should commend yourself because even though there are thousands of crappy sufi webpages devoted bashing, lying, hatin on the prophet nd the salaf us salih and the scholars of islam, there are only a couple of webpages that expose the jews, oops i mean the sufiz plotz. peace.

kaleem akhtar - 04/22/99 18:35:48
My Email:rahmarn@yahoo.com

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akhi the information you provided was priceless but how can you verify it? is it on their own webpages? please tell me because i have problem with this movement in my home town -please help me insha-allah..where di du get all the info from????? i await yo r reply akhi..allah swt bless you and all the ummah with junnah-amin.

pak efka - 04/17/99 21:27:41

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selam, dear slave of Allah-insha Allah. Some questions: Are you qualified scholar of Islam? How much do you know Arabic? How much do you know about anything regarding tariqas? You are talking about interpreting, sects; are you sure about your interpretations? Do you have any guarantee for your understanding? Any way, be whatever you are and may Allah guide all of us straight path. May Allah forgive all of us. May Allah give us His endless love to each other. And may Allah remove from our hearts hatred to another Muslims. May Allah bring unity among all Muslim ! And may Allah grant us wisdom! Amin. It is not time to fight but to unite. And we have to realize this now. Sincerely, Pak Efka

slave of Allah, inshallah - 04/11/99 04:18:14

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Dear PAK EFKA: To me what you have said was loud and clear, if that is not what you meant (which i hope), then be careful what you write because writing one thing and meaning something else can create serious misunderstanding. You may say i'm misinterpret ng, but i really don't think i am because everything you say it pretty straightforward, if i did thats my own human frailty. i don't think you realize it, but there is alot of things that you have implied and said that are very clear and would be hard to isinterepret or take out of context. I hope you have realized i am not writing in revenge. When you mention Abu Hanifa's mezheb, or Imam Shafi's, or Imam Malik's i think you missed the point. Kabbani's Naqshbandi "tariqa" is subject to becoming a sect. if his "Naqshbandi tariqa" as you call it started as something within in the boundaries of th Quran and Sunna then so be it. But i think you are making an unfair assumption to lump this "tariqa" with the 4 main schools. i've seen with my own eyes as to how muslims tip toe around meanings saying "this can mean this and that" to the point of introd cing new things within the deen and that is EXACTLY what happened with the Jews and Christians and now look at them. They are full of sects, cults, and divisions...and ultimately their deen has become manipulated. the Jews did this, the Jews did this, the Jews did this. Is this where you want us to be, because BY ALLAH this is where the Umma is going!!! This is mentioned in thae hadith as well!! And i will say it again, you must understand that Prophet Mohammed (SAWS) said in hadith that there will be 73 s cts in his umma and that "kolluhum fe Nar illa wahad." this means all muslim sects will be in jahanam except for 1. only one (that follows Quran and Sunna). Also in the hadith on the day of judgement there will be beleivers who will come towards the lake f Kawthar and will attempt to drink from it. Then they will be pulled away, unable to drink it. The Prophet said they were people who ADDED INNOVATION to the deen. This is not out not context. In fact to say so is another disinformation tactic. Look my br ther/sister, when one says something and you see it differently from everyone who proceeded you, it is MUCH, MUCH safer to go with the sahaba and older scholoars rather to make your own interepretation. why? because the sahaba and scholoars are closer to he thinking and adab of the prophet than ANYONE after them. These were the supermen of the umma, even a slight divation would cause chaos. and Kabbani's words are not out of context. again to say so is another disinformation tactic, i know deception. i read the whole transcript, and i know someone with the tape to it. there is no doubt about it that he falsely accused and attempted to aliena e the mainstream muslims of the US. He was given the opportunity to undue the serious defamatory remarks or to clear up any misunderstanding, but he continued his attacks. i am not picking on anyone, go read and re-read his transcript. And no, its not me ho needs a history lesson, its you who needs to open your eyes and read the the book of Allah and the hadith carefully. And don't use the "out of context" strategy because the hadith and Quran is not out of context, i think you WANT it to be. To say "Isla the Sufi Naqshbandiyya Way" is a valid "tariqa" then i suppose that "Wahabbism" and "Shia" are valid "tariqa" as well. Because someone DID interepret them, you suppose they are valid. But if the Prophet warns us about 73 sects and all of them in hell exc pt for one, i suppose those "ism's" and so called "tariqas" can't be so valid now can it? salaam, if you still want to talk about this subject(s) perhaps it is better if we e-mail each other.

A Muslim - 04/08/99 19:03:21

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My dear brother in Islam...As-salaamu-alaikum I can understand where you are coming from in regards to your postings. I must say that there are things that Mr. Hisham Kabbani does or believes that I don't agree with...but your hatred, your anger and your vicious attacks against the man, and the Naqs bandi group are somewhat childish and extrememly immature. Please understand that I am not a follower of Mr. Kabbani...but I also I don't agree with your style and some of the Wahabbi ideas that you have posted in the past. A more reasonable and calm, but respectful tone would suite your cause much better. Our Beloved Messenger (sal allahoo alay hee wus sulum) did not win over the hearts and minds of the Sahaba by being rude or by throwing insults. There was never a time that someone insulted him that he did not return their insult with a nice gesture or w th tolerance. You claim to love the Messenger (sal allahoo alay hee wus sulum)...so follow his sunnah. Fi-amaan-allah A Muslim

PAk Efka - 04/05/99 06:17:29

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Dear Slave of Allah-insha Allah, Selam, Thanks for your reply. But I think that you misundertood my words and words of Shaykh Kabbani (speech of Shaykh given in the State Depart. see www.islamicsupremecouncil.org). I never said that you are better and that you know better Qur'an and sunna. See, now I can say that you took my words and interpreted them in the way you wanted, not in the way I really meant. And this is happening in our ummah. LACK OF UNDERSTANDING, LACK OF COMMUNICATION, LACK OF THE WILL TO UNDERSTAND EACH OTHER. It is very easy to change someone words and intention. It is very easy. The best think is to take someone words out of the contex . Yes, you never said that Shaykh Kabbani is a kafir, but at the same time you are suggesting that he is creating a sect. So what is according to you Abu Hanifa's mezheb, or Imam Shafi's, or IMam Malik's? Who are those imams? Did they create sects? Or they interpreted Islam? What did they do? What I would suggest to you, brother, please read more about Islamic history, not only sira( sira not out of context just to justify someones points or ideas, but in objective way) but also history of Ummayyads, Abbasids, OTtomans. You will understand man things. You will understand the meaning of the term NAqshbandi tariqa as well. And you won't say what you are saying now. You will understand many things. Because in order to understand present, you have to first understand your past, and then you will be able to move into future. And please don't misunderstand. And don't say that you don't need to know "Mr. Kabbani", how then you will keep your objectivity? If you want to judge anything or anyone you have to really first come accross to the subject. And you are even not willing to do this. IS this was the way of the Prophet? No.IT wasn't. Thus you are showing me your way. And once again, whenever you write or say anything think about this 100 times!!!!!!!! And don't take someones words out of the context. Selam, Pak Efka

slave of Allah, inshallah - 04/05/99 02:58:56

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DEAR PAK EFKA, asalaamu alaikum, i think you are mistaken. i NEVER said i was better than ANYONE in regards to Quran and sunna. also i NEVER accused Kabbani of kufr. please re-read my words again and you will find no such thing. Again, you have accused me again by focus ng on something i HAVEN'T said. this is called a disinformation tactic. I hope i can clear that i NEVER said he was a kaffir nor that i was better in Quran and Sunna than him. Also, you must understand that Prophet Mohammed (SAWS) said in hadith that ther will be 73 sects in his umma and that "kolluhum fe Nar illa wahad." this means all muslim sects will be in jahanam except for 1. only one. when we see titles like on Mr. Kabbani's page "Islam the Sufi Naqshbandiyya Way" this dispirts the umma, it fragmen s us and divides us. what happened to "Islam the Muhammed(saws) Way?" How is this "Islam the Sufi Naqshbandiyya Way" indictative of Muhammed's (saws) way? My message to you Pak efka is you should read my words before you attack accuse, and label as you ha e done and continue to have done. Furthermore the word "fitna" is being thrown around to the point everyone is accusing everyone. this word has been abused, and often misunderstood, mainly by non-Arabic speakers in my experience. When you uses and re-use nd re-use that word, you undermine the meaning. Also, I cringe at the fact that Muslims are being attacked by so many groups, yet when Mr. Kabbani, a muslim, attacks us, accuses us with no grounds but with speculation, you have to realize that the umma is really, REALLY in trouble. And no, I don't have to meet Mr. Kabbani to understand what he's all about or what his idiology is. Is this "Islam the Sufi Naqshbandiyya Way" part of the sunna? Is he going to the states departments and reaffirming the bigoted otion to steve emerson (notorious for his racism) that muslims (80% according to Kabbani) are extremists? Is Kabbani thinking about the safety of the muslim americans? Is kabbani happy generalizing that Muslim Students are capable of extremist and terrori t acts when this statement is absurd and obviously not true? Please read his words. read his transcipt and understand the severity of the acusations. i've never seen this much slander since the Satanic Verses by Salamon rushdie. I'm not calling him Rushdi , but you must realize that even Muslims can say things wrong. is defending what they say helping us?

Pak efka - 03/28/99 05:14:45

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To the slave of Allah-insha Allah. Selam, If you don't believe that Shaykh Kabbani is not practising the Qur'an and Sunnah than I can also assume that you are just using slogans of Qur'an and Sunna. And so the vicious circle continues. Nobody has the right to claim that he or she is better Muslim then someone else. The moment you say you are better, you are lost like Iblis was lost, when he refused to prostrate before Adam made out of clay. It is also prohibited in Islam to call other M slim a kafir. The Prophet a.s. prohibited this. However many so called slaves of Allah claim that they are the only slaves, and that they are the best one; their way is the only way. If you knew a little bit of Islamic history you would have never said t at Shaykh Hisham Kabbani is not practising Qur'an and Sunnah. By the way did you personally talk to Shaykh? Did you ever been with him? What do you really know about him? Anyway do you know enough yourself? Let begin first with yourself. My message to the slave of Allah-insha Allah is before you say anything look first into yourself and make sure that you are alright in front of Allah. If each Muslim would become busy in improving his iman and Islam, then hopefully the fitna would stop-insha Allah. Unfortunately most of the Muslims "correct" others and forgets about themselves. Sincelery, Efka

Slave of Allah, inshallah - 03/26/99 05:52:53

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TO PAK EFKA: salaam, by brother/sister, must you keep posting messages over and over in Kabbani's defence? Realize the seriousness of his allegations. Realize that our Umma is being fragmented into numerous sects. Realize taunting and re-taunting your brothers and sis ers (who are against slander against the Muslims of this country) is not the way to express an opinion. Allah will ask you on the day of judgement about the slander you have posted against me in rebuke to my post, which praised the efforts of hard informa ion disclosure and Kabbani's claims against US muslims. I don't know where you get off saying that I don't practice Quran and Sunna. you don't know me. I try to follow Muhammed (SAWS) way the BEST i can. The prophet warned about the sects in Islam. It is n the hadith. I do not follow any "ism," order, or movement EXCEPT the Quran and Sunna. It is easy to say someone will sink into fitna and ultimately hell, but with what basis? Is it because i don't beleive Kabbani is following the Sunna in terms of him b eaking off from mainstream Islam? Is that all? Since i'm to go to hell according to you, you must be perfect. Instead of insulting you the way you insulted and accused me (with no basis whats so ever), I ask Allah to forgive you, because i don't believe in accusing and insulting your adab and level of Iman the way you have insulted me. I don't beleive in insultin you and right after saying: "I pray to Allah to guide you straight path. Ma assaalam." I would rather say Allah forgive, may Allah unite us, and may Allah let us see each other in janna, inshallaah. Asalaamu alaikum wa rahmatAllahi wa barakatuhu.

pak efka - 03/24/99 06:03:01

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PS. Masha Allah!!! You are the biggest "slave" of Allah !!! Keep following Qur'an and Sunnah!!! And we will see the results soon... I am afraid that our ummah thanks to "slaves" of Allah, who claim that know what is Qur'an and Sunna,(ha, ha, ha) will sink in the ocean of fitna and kingdom of shaytan. I guess that is your real intention. Astaghfirullah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Efka

Pak Efka - 03/24/99 05:50:55

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selam, You are saying that you are following Qur'an and sunna. Ha, ha, ha... It is really a good joke. Any way do you know what is Qur'an or sunnah of the Prophet a.s.? Or are you using big slogans? Did you ever study Qur'an and sunnah? I doubt. Otherwise you you would never ever behave in such a low manner. Any way this is only proving to me your real level of iman and adab. I pray to Allah to guide you straight path. Ma assaalam, Sincerely, Efka

slave of Allah - 03/24/99 00:27:53

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alhamdulillah i thank Allah that someone investigated the Kabbani issue. I thank Allah that someone found the refrences to back up the fact that Kabbani is head of a group that cannot be identified with the true path of Allah. I thank Allah i found this s te. There are people who say that Kabbani is being picked on for no reason and that we are all harboring extremist idiology because we follow the Quran and Sunna. There is NO SHADOW OF A DOUBT that Kabbani is not moderate and follows Quran and Sunna as t e prophet did. THE PROOF IS HERE. jazak Allah khair.

Pak Efka - 03/23/99 14:06:06

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There is no doubt that this website and people who are behind this, are evident fitna creators. May Allah guide you straight path, if you want to be guided. This is clear backbiting on innocent and respected scholar! If you have anything against Shaykh Hisham Kabbani, then go straight away to him. if claim that you are the followers of Qur'an and sunna then why are violating one of the basic principles of ISlam? Why are accusing and backbiting an innocent scholar? Why? It is easy to spread lies about other person, in this way you are not helping Muslim ummah, but shaytan!! Yes, he is now very happy, more than even you can imagine. I guess, that you are ships who even don't have a single drop of courage to face personnally in Islamic manner respected scholar. If you had this courage, but you will never have, because you never had it, you would have solve your own problems a long time ago. May Allah really guide you straight path and give wisdom! Amin! And may Allah s.w.t. keep us Muslims away from all kind of fitna, especially among Muslims themselves, which is even more dangerous!! This is not time to fight Muslims, this is time to unite and appreciate effort of those who are trying to bring all Muslims togethere under umbrella of ahl sunna wa al jama'a Selam, PAk Efka

Ahmed from Alexandria Va - 03/19/99 22:52:44
My Email:DaAvenger@hotmail.com

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Excellent job brother. Kabbani is tearing the Muslim Ummah apart by his lies and fitna. May Allah (S.W.) guide us and save us from this fitna. Please brothers and sisters, be careful of Kabbani and anyone else that criticizes our Alims such as Ibn Taymia.

Dominic - 03/18/99 13:48:32
My Email:camelfarmer@hotmail.com

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Islam is when follows the Quran & authentic Sunnah of our prophet..nothing more, nothing less. Anything other than this is disobedience to Allah. No one can play games with Allah. He sees all. Everyone knows the stories of pharoah...glamour doesn't last. or does life. We will all return to God, like it or not. wasalm

Majida - 03/17/99 22:57:07
My Email:Sister In Islam

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"And those who take others in worship and as protectors other than Allah, say, we do not worship them except to get closer to Allah. Verily Allah will judge between them concerning that which they differed about and indeed Allah does not guide he who is a lair and the un-Believers" (az Zumar:3) "Do not invoke others besides Allah, those who are not able to benefit or harm you! And if you do so then surely you are from the idol worshippers"(Yoonus:106) Subhanallah! I cant believe how nasty some of the messages are in this guest book. All because a Brother, Mashallah has uncovered the truth about this Sufi sect. It looks like they are all written by the same person, rather funny really. I've noticed a few people have been turned off starting up thier own Islamic sites, like brother Mujeeb Rahman 10:19:98 claimed that he is not a Sufi but believes in Tawassul and sanctity of the awliyas as the friends of Allah. And then claims that he fol ows the Sunnah to the max, Not the Prophets (pboh)Sunnah, but may be the sunnah of the shaytan. Alhumdillah people like this have been turned off having internet sites of thier own. Quite amusing also is the way the sufis will try and quote from the Qura yet not even give refrences. That is because NOTHING they claim can be back up by Quran and Sunnah, I wonder if these devils have even read the Quran! They also go on about Brother Amir calling so called Muslims Kafir, Well let me imform you that Quran and Sunnah give us clear criterion with witch we can distinguish kufar from Guidance. So if the shoe fits! Then theres the group who have left masseages praising Brother Abu Umar, but indicate that they are to frightend to do the same for what ever reason. My reply are the words of Allah (swt)"Indeed Allah aided you and made you victorious at the battle of Bad when you were few in number and were weak in force" (Aali-Imraan:123) May Allah (swt) give those who worship Him the upper hand over the enemies of Islam. May he destroy them and humiliate them in this life and in the next Ameen. Keep up the good work against the the Rafida. (the rejectors of the truth, who musk pure kufar in thier hearts). "When the Hypocrites come to you they say indeed we testify that truly you are the Messenger of Allah. Allah knows that you are His Messenger and Allah witness that the hypocrites are liars' (al- Munafiqoon:1) W'Salam

Nazir Husain - 03/17/99 18:56:06
My Email:hatf1@uiuc.edu

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Gazakallak kheir for your efforts. I would also like to suggest taking samples of Naqshi/Haqqani writings and get fatwahs on them from various internatonal scholars and muftis

Abdullah - 03/17/99 09:27:02
My Email:cybersufi@84.hotmail.com

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Dear friend, As a Muslim I feel i have to give counsel to you... What you are doing is wrong. I am not affiliated with the Naqshbandiya Haqqaniya sufis and I have never met Sh. Hisham..... I am being totally objective. From what I have read Sh.Hisham is a sincere per on and many of his articles i read with interest... because i honestly find them stimulating and to the point... Remeber slander is a major sin in Islam and our prophet sallallaho salam said: "When one Muslim abuses another it is a sin and when he fights with him it is kufr" If you really fear Allah then defrain from gheybat and slander. Salamms

An Average Muslim - 03/11/99 18:20:47

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Assalam alaikum. This has already been deleted once, so i'm reposting it. You're a sad sad man. I'm not even Naqshbandi or Sufi and i realize this. Shame on all those who praise a man for slander. Calling someone Kufr, is something no Muslim should do. Akidaah is in the heart. I'm assuming you're a Salafi, because only Salafi's have such violent attacks on Muslims. U claim to follow only the Quarn and Sunnah, so where the did the Prophet(S) ever accuse another man of Kufr? The Prophet said if one man calls another Kuffar then one of them is definitely a Kuffar. And akidaah is so ething that only Allah(S) knows and cannot be determined through words or actions. Or maybe u believe yourself high enough to know another man's intentions? I don't go on such gross power trips. Why don't I see a site on Islam, but only anti-Islamic? Who' you're Sheikh, or do u believe that u are like the prophets and get you're revelations by God? You abhore tradition, for you're NEW Islam. Maybe you're the one with the agenda? oh... and as far as Kabbani's associating with the wrong people.. hmm.. it's eally stupid to attack someone when they are trying to do good. If u condemn the enemy and refuse to even talk to them, then how will peace ever be reached? Or maybe u don't care about peace, maybe you're happy with the Muslim ummah in the state it is in? I praise him for his strength in trying to create a better Muslim ummah. Do u think that if he was trying to secretly meet with these people that he would take pictures? Why don't u make enemies of the Americans u live with? May Allah(S) guide u to the st aight path. I know u will get to comment on this, and turn my words around into something they don't mean, but please don't. U may even delete this message if u have power to do so, but please end this Fitnah u create.. for the sake of the Muslim ummah.
Abu Kareem - 03/09/99 07:01:39
My URL:Who are the LIARS?

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Regarding the letter of some Muslim organizations about Shaykh Hisham's speech see the hypocrisy:::::::::: The multiple organizations who signed the letter wrote:---------- "In effect, Mr. Kabbani is telling government officials that the majority of American Muslims pose a danger to our society." ************************************************* While Shaykh Hisham Kabbani stated in the same speech these people are criticizing:-------------- "We want to tell you that the Muslim community as a whole is innocent from whatever extremism and extremist ideology is being spread around the world."********************************************** How more clear is this for all to see. The fact that all the eight or now more Muslim organizations signed to such a BIG LIE is a clear sign for those who doubted Shaykh Hisham's words that extremism is spreading in the leadership of American Muslim organizations.************************************

Irfan Handoo - 03/08/99 23:01:47

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Salaams. Keep up the good work. Kabbani is an evil man and his attempt to discredit Muslim Americans and Muslim American organizations must be revealed. By the way, I was the one who they quoted from on their press release (Lynch mob, etc.) May Allah less you in your attempts to show Muslims the truth. Wassalam.

- 03/06/99 21:42:20

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You are filth. You shouldn't be slandering other people like that on your God-forsaken webpage. It is full of such crap that shouldn't be shown to even the most lowliest of creatures. Taking the words of Sh. Hisham means you are resorting to such low dept s that you can't win in a fair fight. May you be punished dearly for your crimes. And no, calling you Satan or Satan worshiper isn't right, but you are just as low.

Satan - 03/06/99 02:20:19
My URL:http://hell.com
My Email:satan@hell.com

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Thanks to the effort of one my servant in disguise of Human. He is doing a good job by spreading the false hood. Once again i thank Amir Butler[Devil in disguise of Human] ! Amir I'll see you in Hell.

Frank Walker - 03/06/99 01:59:43
My Email:al_ahnaf@hotmail.com

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Indeed it's a great site exposing the agents of satan ,the so called sufis,the Kabbanites This site is not anti muslims per claim of Abu Karim aka Mateen Siddiqui the mouthpiece of H kabbani Frank Walker

RAFE HUSAIN - 03/04/99 04:19:39
My Email:rafeh@rdlabs.com

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DEAR BRS, We have taken website islamicsupremecouncil.com and .net also muslimmag.com. As u may know these are .com has more priority than .ne or .org as .com is the default. If u r interested in these two web names we will turn them over to u at no charge. We also took kabbani.net kabbani.org. so when he has stuff at islamicsupremecouncil.org u can have counter stuff at islamicsupremecouncil.com similarly their muslimmag is at muslimmag.com where ur counter stuff can reside at muslimmag.com salaam rafe 909-736-0893

Abu Kareem - 02/22/99 05:16:27

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This site has one of the largest collected lies and slander on the web, rivaling other anti-Islamic sites. It is enough a refutation of it lies that its author calls Muslims dog-worshippers. In that is a clear sign for all Muslims.