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words of wisdom
ex-employee Jan-9-03 13:27	Listen... as much as I dislike Mr. DeMaio and his business practices. Posting his house address and maybe going to pay him a visit is not the smartest thing to do, 2 wrongs DONT make a right! I know how upsetting it can be to be taken for a ride or being the blunt of someones personal attack (especially with this guy), and I know at times you just want to say screw it and play as dirty as they do, but you must restrain yourself. A good friend of mine once said to me "The wheels of justice turn real slow, extremely slow in-fact. You just have to hang in there and let things take there course" at the time I was just as mad as you guys are, but by sinking to his level, you are only going to cause yourself problems.
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some quotes from duped employees and management
guest Jan-9-03 13:47	Pat: "I want to be like Bob someday. He has chicks and money and he's so cool" Tom: "If you can jump, you can go real far in this company" Jennifer: "You have a bad attitude" Dennis: "You can't leave your desk unless I tell you. I want you to sign this 'bad employee' form" Brian: "Bob is suing the guy who contracted out the last bidbar, who never paid his employees and used the money Bob gave him to buy a Ferrari. The employees were wondering where their paychecks were" Brian: "Bob is suing Wells Fargo for giving out personal data" Brian: "The checks didn't cash because Wells Fargo is in a lawsuit with USBank"
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true...
investor 1 Jan-9-03 13:45	remember he DOES have a wife and children.....there's no point in harassing THEM.....
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Nevada Labor Commission
Guest9 Jan-9-03 08:24	After reading 'codedog's' web pages I am wondering if anyone here knows if the Labor Commission has EVER gotten employees paid when they've been screwed like we have by Bob-arino.
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NV Labor Commission
LT Local Jan-9-03 11:08	The answer to your question is no. See "Civil Cases" topic below. He has thousands of dollars in judgments, bankruptcies and tax liens. He has no money. He spends any and all the money he is ever given, and there hasn't been enough people to hunt him down and pursue the issue.
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Calling Bob Demaio
Let's Roll Jan-9-03 01:25	It's about time we voice our comments to Bob himself. 1-775-750-2044. Please report back about what you mentioned to him. Thanks.
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Bob
Roll? Jan-9-03 08:35	Phone number might be nice, but how about an address where we can find him?
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Bob's Home Address! SURE!
LT Local Jan-9-03 11:11	NV DMV Records show an address of 1565 Vivian Lane, Incline Village, NV 89411 There is a house next door to it that is listed as for sale.
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Bob's address
Investor1 Jan-9-03 13:41	Does anyone live in Tahoe and check to see if this Bob's address:1565 Vivian Lane, Incline Village, NV 89411 Maybe someone can drive by and see his fancy yellow Lambergeni in the driveway.
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Bob's number
investor1 Jan-9-03 01:31	Does anyone have Bob's home number? Maybe we can call him up at home and ask for our money back. Does anyone know where he lives? I know lives on the lake somewhere.
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my username
investor 1 Jan-9-03 13:06	umm....why did you use MY username for this message? i didn't write it..... and i wouldn't advise going to the house - they can always call the cops for trespassing then YOU'LL be the one in trouble.....you guys need to go thru the proper channels for this stuff.... and sorry, but i don't buy the labor board officials being paid off stuff....PLEASE......
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Labor Commission
NOT investor 1 Jan-9-03 13:25	I can't imagine dear Bob paying off the Labor Comission people. Afterall, paying anyone doesn't seem to be the way he operates. I do wonder if the Commission isn't just a bureaucratic quagmire that takes forever and/or never does anything but shuffle paper around. The Claim forms make it pretty clear that once you sign them, the Commission can do just about what it wants to with your Claim.
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Labor Board
guest Jan-9-03 13:23	Well I am sure that the media presence, will be enough to continue "investigating Mr. Demaio", as well as past claims...that maybe the Labor Commissioner overlooked. Which looks like what happened in that case. But If the media gets a hold of that story, Mr. Pat McNamara sure looks like he may a good chance of sueing the state for negligence in that matter...hmmm...amongst other things, and actually winning---probably the only way he will every get compensated for what happened to him. Get a Good Attorney, and Sue the State, Mr. McNamara!!!
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How are people getting the word out?
Dot1scams Jan-8-03 23:41	...Well besides this forum. It seems that the only way that any of the ex-employees are going to get paid is if Bob files for bankruptcy which looks like its on the verge of happening. But could we push it along a little by telling all the Dot1web merchants that we don't appreciate them doing business with Dot1web. And 99% of them don't even know that they are a Dot1web merchant. Another little scam Dot1web had going. Most of the business signed up for http://www.webwidemarketplace.com/ don't know it because they hired data processors to sign up the business, and make generic web sites for them without them knowing it. Supposedly some time in the future they where going go notify them about being part of the Dot1web network. If you do a search on this page http://www.webwidemarketplace.com/searchbykeyword.asp for "all" with page results set to a hundred it gives you a list of Dot1web merchants totalling 274. I think there is something close to 1500 merchants but I may be way off give or take. You can search in your area and tell business what they are apart of knowingly or unknowingly. May be we should alert them to this little snafu.
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Numbers
Lt. Dan Jan-9-03 00:07	I noticed on their merchant list that most merchants had multiple listings. One merchant had his business listed over thirty times. This directory is really cheezy and I don't know why anyone in there right mind would even mess with it. Also, the auctions are a joke. I thought that all auctions had an end, not Dot1web auctions! I bid on a book once that was listed for well over a year. Everytime you thought you had it won, they extended the damn thing another week. There is nothing but a bunch of over priced junk, looks like a Sanford & Son garage sale. I am convinced that this whole thing was a scam from the start in order to bilk $$$$$$$$$$ from innocent investors. Oh ya, almost forgot. What about those valuable Web Dollars? BULLSHIT!!!
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Something is burning
The EYE Jan-8-03 23:40	Stick a fork in it, this shit is done. Ever had felet demaio? He's done this time around.
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gee
investor 1 Jan-9-03 13:22	then you guys can PARTY!! but won't have any thing to talk about - lol!
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Dot 1 Web
Kjun9397 Jan-8-03 22:12	If anyone out there that was working for Dot1Web is interested in some info you can e-mail me at Kjun9397@aol.com. I can't say that all will be interested in this but a few of you might be interested. In the subject line please put "former employee".
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pseudofantasia
Guest Jan-8-03 20:39	Obviously the sensical people on this forum either realize now, or have realized that Mr. Demaio is a con, has been a con, and plans to stay that way.....in my opinion ;) Go to this site, and see for yourself that this is not a one time occurance. www.codedog.org/nv And after reading it, if you still are sticking up for him, then I am sorry to say that you either deserve to lose all of your money, or you deserve to go to jail, just like him!!!!! Wake up, those of you still following Bob around like he is the Messiah, haven't you ever heard of the Anti-Christ????
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A chance meeting from the FBI
badboyz Jan-8-03 13:58	DING-DONG FBI:Mr. Demaio BOB:Yes FBI:Please come with me, we need to talk to you BOB:About what? FBI:Its about bounced checks BOB:O Well that 248,000 check didnt bounce the bank didnt have the money on hand to give them. FBI:Mr. Demaio it says on the check insufficient funds. BOB:Well thats because I changed account and they were issued a check from the wrong bank. FBI:We have checked all your bank accounts and we see that you dont have enough to cover any of the bounced checks. BOB:Well, it wasnt me it must have been Franco for setting up that deal, wait it must of been Warkinten for giving the authorization to send the check, or wait it must have Colin Quinn for signing that check, or wait it must have been my cranked up assistant for mailing that check, I told her not to send it. FBI:There are other problems Mr. Demaio BOB:What problems-my company is moving towards profitiability in the next quarter. FBI:Its about these over the counter withdrawls and your debt at Ceasers Tahoe BOB:Well that wasnt me it was my evil twin brother he must of had made a fake ID with my name on it and counterfitted my fingerprint and signature, no it must have been my wife she wanted the sporty little yellow car she wanted the big house in Tahoe, she wanted more kids---it wasnt me it wasnt me it wasnt me. FBI:Mr. Demaio mabey you shoud use your right to remain silent now.
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RE:chance meeting from the FBI
dot1sucka Jan-8-03 16:10	Hey BOB is so sold on his company that if people showed up to his house with FBI jackets on he would think that they were Future Business Investors.
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er, wait a minute
guest Jan-8-03 14:36	TahoeBonanza: Why did the checks bounce? BOB: because the bank dropped me. TB: Why did the bank drop you? BOB: For some reason, I don't know why, but people kept cashing their checks rather than depositing them. Since I only hire salaried employees and not slave laborers, and since my workers are the highest paid in the city, the bank was running out of cash. So the bank couldn't afford my employees. It's the bank's fault. They should have had more cash on hand for my highly-paid employees.
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err, wait again
guest Jan-8-03 15:08	BOB: Now if they would have just given me their bank account numbers, we would have direct-deposited their checks, and there would never have been a problem.
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just curious
guest Jan-8-03 12:38	"by the way he also has a judgement against him for not paying taxes for those people in a county in california" do you have a link to prove this?
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Just curious
LT Local Jan-8-03 14:43	http://courts.countyofventura.org/civcase/name_results.asp Just more fuel to fire...
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civil case numbers
dotbombing Jan-8-03 14:57	http://courts.countyofventura.org/civcase/case_home.asp click the "search by case name" type in DeMaio and you will find these two case numbers below case numbers civ116078 sh079464
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case numbers
guest Jan-8-03 19:13	when you go to this web page no need for the civ in front of the number just type in the number and then there is a drop down menu to the right and pic civ or sh and it will get you the cases-if you do not do this and type in the civ it will say no matches
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Civil Case Numbers
LT Local Jan-8-03 16:41	You missed one...CV155931 for breach of contract
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Civil Case Numbers - Look Kids ANOTHER one!
LT Local Jan-8-03 17:01	Who would have thunk it?? Another lawsuit...oh how the world turns.... http://www.lasuperiorcourt.org/civilCaseSummary/index.asp?CaseType=Civil The case number is CSC18953, LA Muni Ct., Malibu Judicial Branch, Ronald Stitch v. Robert DeMaio
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Civil Case Numbers - Oops He Did It Again!
LT Local Jan-8-03 17:08	Trafficmarketplace, Inc. v. Lowestbids.com LA Superior Ct., Case No. BC233448 Use the same link above.
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re:just curious
firstbank Jan-8-03 14:48	i clicked on the link but what do i search for I tried Demaio, dot1web,lowestbids-but got nothing
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just curious
guest Jan-8-03 13:41	No link I went to the offices like anyone can-they gave me a copy
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about taxes
worried Jan-8-03 12:48	I'm worried now that my federal income taxes were never really deducted from my paychecks. What if they never honestly deducted my taxes? Am I going to get a visit from the IRS? How do I verify that my paychecks had deductions included? If this guy Demaio is such a great Christian, than how come he constantly violated the 10 Commandments? Doesn't writing bad checks violate the 9th commandment of Thou Shalt Not Be A False Witness?
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taxes
guest Jan-8-03 13:40	Dont worry Demaio is responsible for the taxs-hes the one who reported them hes the one who pays them
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re:taxes
GUEST Jan-8-03 13:45	And even there is a slight chance, that he happened to "forget" to report his taxes, he will still be the responsible (or shall I say irresponsible) party...
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Taxes
GUEST Jan-8-03 13:01	There is a local IRS Tax Revenue Officer, that actually filed an IRS tax lien against Drive4u.com, last year. You can reach her at this #775-824-2234 ext 2770. Her name is Carolina Tafoya. You can also view this tax lien on the Washoe County Recorders website, by entering Drive4u in the grantor/grantee section. She should be able to give you information or, if anything, direct you to the correct department.
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Christian?
Jan-8-03 13:00	And how about Adultery?
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forgot..
guest Jan-8-03 12:40	forgot to add..it seems like if it was ernie's company he would be responsible for taxes?? dot 1 never worked out of a CA county
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ernie's company
guest Jan-8-03 14:00	The judgement is against him not ernie so he didnt pay he is responsible
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taxes
guest Jan-8-03 12:57	the tax liens are for MR. Demaio for previous companies, you seem to think that Dot1Web has been around for 3 years when in fact Dot1Web was just another string of companies that Mr. DeMaio has created/merged/renamed etc. do a little more research you bonehead!
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Bingo!
Bingo! Jan-8-03 23:30	Bingo! Big time.
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Dot One Web
wondering Jan-8-03 11:19	I worked in engineering at dot1, and like many others I am still waiting to be paid for work done up to the 'big layoff." After wading through all venting, etc., on this forum, I have a question that, perhaps, some of you could answer. In the face of all this turmoil, how are they managing to keep the web servers up and running? To the rest of the world out there, it still looks like this company is up and running. Is it?
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re:dot one web
chillin Jan-8-03 14:41	Mabey he paid for a year of service to the host of his web site-if not when the monthly bill comes in he will be shut-off just like the power company, phone, and gas company would do. SHUT HIM DOWN
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but....
investor 1 Jan-9-03 13:26	but you have to pay for each isp user...you can't pay THAT ahead of time because you don't know how many there are/will be....
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Re: Re: dot one web
fubar4u.com lowbal.com part of the Dot1scam networ Jan-8-03 19:59	As far as I know just a couple of CSRs are still working for free from out of their homes, thats what I've heard. As far as I know who is keeping the web and others servers up and running I'm not sure maybe its Brian Wanaugh or one or two others from the engineering management. So all they are able to do is sign up new ISP users and cancel users, and not too much else from what I can see. Believe me an average day in the CSR department normally had as many cancels a day as new sign ups. The most sign ups I've seen them get in a day is about 15. In fact and I'm not joking I've had people call up and cancel before they've even made an account, and its also not uncommon to have a user sign up and cancel in the same day. Also I'm pretty sure that they have less then a thousand ISP users counting investors that also used the ISP.
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paycheck bounced
former employee Jan-8-03 11:51	Hey y'all One of my first paychecks bounced. I never reported it. Now I want to. Who do I tell? btw, this rant-room is great! Some of the funniest shit I've heard in days. I'm so glad the crooks' karma is coming back to them....it always happens. I'm thinking of filing a wrongful termination lawsuit as well, since I was fired the same day I complained about percieved discrimination/harassment by one of the managers. Who should I tell?
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Paycheck Bounced
LT Local Jan-8-03 14:23	What would be the point of filing a wrongful termination suit? He has no money people! He has SEVERAL judgments, bankruptcies and tax liens against him. He was so lame that he bought his yellow midlife crisis sportcar outright and its now pledged and going to be taken from him to pay off the rent debt owed to the Parasol building. Don't waste your money trying to get your money! He has none. File a complaint with the Labor Commissioner. http://www.laborcommissioner.com/ BTW, 9th Judicial District Court, Douglas County, Case No. 02-CV-0063, Judgment Dated March 5, 2002, State of Nevada v. Lowestbids.com Ohhhhh....and believe me, there's LOTS more.
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Labor Commisioner, yea right
Not so fast Jan-8-03 23:29	(1) He has the money. (Burning investors and employees is just his standard operating procedure, his business model) (2) He ALWAYS has at least a quater to half a million in law suits going at any given time. (3) You WILL have to take him to court to get it. Even your paycheck. (He knows only 2 in 10 go though with it.) (4) The Deputy Labor Commissioner in Carson City (Michael Tanchek has already been bought off. (by Bob) (5) www.codedog.org/nv Any questions?
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re:paycheck bounced
guest Jan-8-03 14:03	Im afraid you just might SOL- file with the labor board and if you have the bounced check turn him in to the Sheriffs dept. According to articles hes not paying alot of his x-employees, you might just have to stand in line and hope for a paycheck-TURN HIM IN
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This ain't Butthead Bob DeMaio's first rodeo . . .
been_burned_already Jan-8-03 23:12	The Labor Board (Nevada Labor Commission) protects this guy. Check it here =>www.codedog.org/nv<= Bob DeMaio has a HUGE history of swindling vendors, contractors & employees for years. Non-payment is his BUSINESS MODEL. He has the money, you just have to take him to court to get it. Contact me: pat@codedog.org Factoid: Bob lies like he breathes. Good at it too. (Semi-professional con man.)
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Re: This ain't Butthead Bob DeMaio's first rodeo .
Dot1web the way the Internet wan't ment to be! Jan-8-03 23:23	Well hopefully all the publicity that this story is getting wel help the Labor Board Nevada Labor Commission get off its ass. If not then this story will probably get headline news in all Reno news channels and papers if the Labor Commission blows us off.
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paycheck bounced
guest Jan-8-03 11:53	Go down to the local district attorney and file a complaint against the company.
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