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snake eyes
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 12, 2003 19:24 pm    Post subject: dot1web discussion Reply with quote

If anyone else out there is a former employee, investor, investigator or just someone with information about this dying dotcom, please keep us informed. icon_devilish.gif
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dot1fraud
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 12, 2003 23:19 pm    Post subject: fresh message board :) Reply with quote

Thanks for starting a new one up for us snake eyes. Well I'll start out by saying that I'm a laid off Dot1web employee that hasn't been paid yet. I'll keep my first post on this new forum short and just give out the links to information about Dot1web. That is all the links I know about, I know I'm missing a few. Hopefully we'll get this new forum going again just like the last one.

[News Links]
http://www.tahoebonanza.com/apps/pbcs.dll/artikkel?SearchID=73122767511793&Avis=TB&Dato=20021225&Kategori=NEWS&Lopenr=212250101&Ref=AR
http://www.tahoebonanza.com/apps/pbcs.dll/artikkel?SearchID=73122767511793&Avis=TB&Dato=20021227&Kategori=NEWS&Lopenr=212270101&Ref=AR
http://www.tahoebonanza.com/apps/pbcs.dll/artikkel?SearchID=73122767511793&Avis=TB&Dato=20030101&Kategori=NEWS&Lopenr=1301010102&Ref=AR
http://www.tahoebonanza.com/apps/pbcs.dll/artikkel?SearchID=73122767511793&Avis=TB&Dato=20030101&Kategori=NEWS&Lopenr=1301010101&Ref=AR
http://www.tahoebonanza.com/apps/pbcs.dll/artikkel?SearchID=73122767511793&Avis=TB&Dato=20030108&Kategori=NEWS&Lopenr=301080101&Ref=AR
http://www.tahoebonanza.com/apps/pbcs.dll/artikkel?SearchID=73122767511793&Avis=TB&Dato=20030110&Kategori=NEWS&Lopenr=301100101&Ref=AR
http://www.rgj.com/news/stories/html/2003/01/03/31237.php

[Law Suites]
I'm missing these links can someone else post them?

[Complaints]
http://www.badbusinessbureau.com/view.asp?id=2802
http://www.codedog.org/nv/
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codedog
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 13, 2003 10:06 am    Post subject: bob1web, bob4u, lowestbob . . . et. al. Reply with quote

snake eyes wrote:
If anyone else out there is a former employee, investor, investigator or just someone with information about this dying dotcom, please keep us informed. icon_devilish.gif


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I worked for Bob 2 1/2 years ago.

This isn't Scumbag Bob's first rodeo.

The current situation is a clone of what the original programming team went through then.

Please keep me plugged in, nvlc_jerkz@codedog.org, to developments of your group. I empathize w/you & your associates, as I fear I know were Bob is going with all this. (Been there, done that.)

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Here's the deal:

The "Public" catastrophic implosion (fresh law suits, booted out of his offices & sometimes his house for good measure) is ALL PART OF THE PLAN. Just bunch of public smoke, to set (lower) baseline target assumptions, for the court appearances to come. i.e. to convince burned vendor & creditors that there is no financial meat left on the bones of Bob's company(s).

i.e. A bad settlement is better than a good law suit with a dead horse.


Everything that has developed so far is the DeMaio Business Model. Running the *Play Book" to a "T". And it's still working well for him in Nevada. Even in the worst case [from Deadbeat Bob's position], he ends up paying some of what he already owes. No downside.

Depending on the 'conditions' it can be cheaper for Bob to impale himself publicly and lowball in court, than to file bankruptcy. Also, by not filing, he can do it all over again sooner. In Nevada, it probably doesn't matter anyway.

To wit: Bob's court action list:
www.codedog.org/nv/court_actions.htm


After the projects are 90% built, and a HUGE campaign of banner ads jack up the "hits" statistics, Bob then *works* investors with the "dream" supported by the bogus traffic stats. *Note: The banner ads are not paid for either.

Bob then claims the business is broke because of blah, blah blah . . all the worker bees are trashed. (Except for the *necessary* key personnel)

The venders & contractors then take Bob to court, where he shows the Bob4U.com. LowestBob.com, Bob1web.com businesses have no assets, cash, nothing. They settle for pennies on the dollar.

Bob steps behind the corporate veil. His personal (gambling fund stash) wealth is protected. (He got his already.) See ya next season.

Coming Next: "Bob the Hero"

Bob will disappear for awhile. Then Bob tosses a handful of money at his mission of "rebuilding his reputation". Next he will be releasing statements about his commitment to doing all he can, for the employees, despite his huge personal losses [non-existent] and the fact that " . . . other people caused all these problem blah, blah, blah . . ."

He will continue with comments about having taken care of everyone, paid his bills, strong future, reorganizing etc. The Truth: The only thing coming out of Bob, will be the minimal mandatory demands of the court proceedings.

All hat and no cattle.

I wish I had beter news for you all, but this is the real, tangible public record of events. Good luck.


- Codedog -

If anybody is visiting the NV Labor Commission: "What's up with this?" - www.codedog.org/nv icon_rolleyes.gif


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another dot1web creditor
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 13, 2003 18:19 pm    Post subject: we got burn't too Reply with quote

We are a small business in the Los Angeles area. Bob and his company owe us approximately $ 25,000. This really hurts a small business....but after hearing all the horror stories I now feel fortunate that we didn't get burn't for a lot more. This is really effecting a lot of good people.

Looking over his past history it is frustrating to think that so many people could have avoided this pain if only we new what a scum we were dealing with. I have seen no positive effort from any Nevada State Agency to stop this guy....so until that day comes please keep up the publicity on what he does. Don't let this guy do it another time.
It sounds like the best solution is to force this guy into bankrupcty.

Thanks for all the information.
My email is rnorden@recomgroup.com if anyone wants to contact me.
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drchaps
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 13, 2003 20:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Guys, dot1web discussion needs to remain on one forum, and also needs to be kept clean. I have locked this thread and moved the other to the general section, since obviously it isnt about the free isp anymore.

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