Subject: Moses Ayres
    Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 16:38:37 -0700
    From: Larry Ayres 
       To: Gloria Odom


Gloria Odom,

  I am very thankfull for your great page on the Ayres Familys. I have
lately gotten interested in this area, more just out of curiosity than any 
delusion that any person is better than anyone else because of his 
relatives or family.

  Anyway, my fathers sister had a geneology done, which I read, that
said we were descended from John Ayres, founder of Brookfield, 
MA.  My mother recently gave me some family documents that 
include an old paper, framed, on very old oil stained paper, and 
in brown faded fountain pen ink. The following is transcript:

Children of Moses and Lucy Ayres

Lucy Ayres born Sept 23, 1777
Dolla Ayres born July 29, 1779
John Ayres born Sept 16, 1781
James Ayres born Sept 27, 1783
Josiah Ayres born Oct 27, 1785
  And Deeiaji         July 11, 1786
Isaac Ayres born May 27, 1787
Josiah Ayres born Sept 13, 1789
Lydia Ayres born May 21, 1792

Moses Ayres, Father to 
The above Children born Jan 30, 1751.
A true copy as of  the record appears
                Attested John Potter, Town Clerk

Brookfield   Jan 27th 1802

  This document is signed by the town clerk. This would appear to disagree
with the man in the online documents who raves against Moses Ayres as not
being from Brookfield, nor being a descendent of Capt. John Ayres. I
personally do not care except to reach the truth, and the truth would appear
to contradict this man's opinion.

  Perhaps you are interested in this information, or you might know someone
who would have some information that would help me to find corroboration for
this information.

Regards,
Larry Ayres








Subject: Re: Moses Ayres - Yes a connection!
    Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 08:38:00 -0400
    From:"Gloria Odom" 
       To: Larry Ayres 
References:   1

Goodmorning Larry,

Nice to meet another AYRES cousin!  Your signed, oil paper copy,
attested by John Potter, Town Clerk in 1802, PREDATES the book below by
almost seventy years... hang on to it!  I'm sure that these dates could
also be verified today from town records, as the book shows the same
dates as your paper with only two differences that I could see:

1- Where your copy says "Dolla" the book says "Dolly"
2- Your list includes Deeiaji with birth date, and this person is not
included in the list for the book - which probably means the book is in
error.

The book compiled by Whitmore, while not error-free, has been VERY
HELPFUL to researchers of the line.

Here is what I have in my possession:

From the book: A Record of the Descendants of Captain John Ayres of
Brookfield, Mass.; by William Henry Whitmore; Boston: Printed by T. R.
Marvin & Son, 1870.

I will include here the info. that is directly related to you.  I
believe I have the full pages for the beginning of this book included on
my home page, which maybe you have already seen there...

Capt John Ayres

According to this compiling the line of descent to the Moses born 30
Jan. 1751 would be as follows:

Generation 1

1- Capt. John AYRES & Susanna SYMONDS

i (2) John
ii (3) Samuel
iii (4) Thomas
iv (5) Joseph
v (6) Edward b 12 Feb 1658 (recorded at Ipswich, MA)
vi (7) Mark b 14 Dec 1661 (recorded at Ipswich, MA)
vii (8) Nathaniel b 6 July 1664 (recorded at Ipswich, MA)
viii Susanna b... m. ____ DAY

Generation 2

5- Joseph AYRES of Ipswich married 9 June, 1684, Sarah CALDWELL, and had

i Sarah b. 5 Aug. 1685
ii Elizabeth b 28 Jan. 1687-8; m. Aaron Kimball, 5 Feb. 1716-17.
iii (21) John b 26 Feb 1692-3
iv (22) Benjamin b 13 Sept 1696
v (23) William b 16 Dec 1700

Generation 3

21 - John AYRES of Brookfield, and wife Mercy, had there the following:

i Mary b 24 Aug 1719; d 15 Sept 1721
ii Benjamin b 25 Aug 1723; d 30 May 1736
iii (40) Moses b 3 Dec 1725

Generation 4

40 - Moses AYRES (b 3 Dec 1725)....
Capt. Moses AYRES of Brookfield, m. Sarah CONVERSE, and had

i John b 21 July 1749; d 10 Nov 1757
ii (63) Moses b 30 Jan 1751
iii Sarah b 30 March 1753
iv Jesse b 20 May 1755; d 27 Oct 1757
v John b 21 Nov 1758; d 30 May, 1778
vi (64) Eli b 27 Feb 1761
vii (65) Jesse b. 8 Oct 1763
viii (66) Jude b 12 March 1766
ix (67) Increase b 16 Nov 1768
x Abigail m. Peter WASHBURN

Generation 5

63- Moses b 30 Jan 1751....
Moses AYRES of Brookfield and of Barnard, Vt., m. Lucy CUTTING, 1 Jan.
1777, and had:

i Lucy b 23 Sept 1777
ii Dolly b 29 July 1779; d 19 nov 1844
iii John b 16 Sept 1781
iv James b 27 Sept 1783; d unm.
v Josiah b 27 Oct 1785; d 11 July 1786
vi Isaac b 27 May 1787; d. unm.
vii Josiah b 13 Sept 1789
viii Lydia b 21 May 1792

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There you have it, and there it ends in Mr. Whitmore's book.  The New
England area is one of the best documented for early years, so I imagine
Mr Whitmore found his dates from the vital records of various towns and
also used pertinent documents to help support his claims.  You notice
that not ALL the vital records are included, as some may not be
available, but other sources probably supported the evidence.  Also, Mr.
Whitmore did NOT follow ALL the lines of descent - only those he could
"find" or someone gave him the info.; this is NOT a complete reference
book; there is some info. he also "omitted," for whatever reason.

I have not tried to "PROVE" any of this information, just share it for
your benefit. It's a good beginning...







Subject: Re: Moses Ayres - Yes a connection!
    Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 07:12:17 -0700
    From: Larry Ayres 
       To: Gloria Odom


Gloria,
  Thank you for the quick response, and the elaborated geneology. So it
appears that the person raving against Moses Ayres being a descendent of
Capt. John was in error, or confused, or there were multiple Moses Ayres, of
different origins. The man who didn't like moses was, in the boston
transcripts on your home page.

  I rechecked the record and Dolla, could not have been confused with Dolly
as the a is very clear. As for the other child with the unusual name, I
think she died, as they put her on the page indented and without the last
name Ayres, as if she were less important, or put their only for
completeness purposes.

  How would I proceed to fill in the gaps from Moses to My Father and his
father Isaac ? I have no birth certificate for my father but know his
birthdate and that he lived in West Roxbury, near Boston. He had a sister
Carolyn. His name was Atherton. I am told that Atherton was his mothers
family name. I am not sure if records were in Boston, or the locality.

  Please feel free to post this on your home page, and any help would be
gratefully appreciated, as has been yours.

Regards,
Larry Ayres







Used by permission of Larry Ayres.  If you have additional information to aid
Larry in identifying his direct ancestor lineage, he would be most grateful!
At this point in time he does not know his direct lineage from Moses Ayres
down to himself.

Please contact Larry or the webmaster if you have more details.
Larry: larry@rain.org