Log Societal Group: Feb, 10 1997
Note that Chris who joined is not the same chris aka ck that is part of societal. Near end of log anne's comments prefaced by ( without the nick Group reviewed information on splash pages by email and decided we did not need one. PNG sources also reviewed. The group does not wish for viewers of this project to require special plug-ins. Session Start: Mon Feb 10 20:08:44 1997 *** Now talking in #societal (anne) hi ingo (ingo) hi anne (ingo) what do you want me to do to op you? *** ingo sets mode: +o anne (ingo) don't tell me, I found it myself (anne) ok, highlight my name with left click, then right-click, select control, then click on give ops (anne) oh i did not even look great ;) (ingo) I added a links to be organized page to the education site (anne) oh good, did you make a link so we can get there (anne) or do i just need to have the filename *** Liz (~locuse@customs310.ipass.net) has joined #societal (anne) the new ann e-less said she would make graphics for us if we need them (anne) hi Liz (ingo) It is under factors impacting education (ingo) Li liz *** anne sets mode: +o Liz (Liz) hi everybody (anne) ingo said he made a list of bookmarks to organize for education (Liz) great! (anne) and we want to remember to include the assets table ingo sent us in one of the sections (anne) should it go under the child development one *** kaos (~ann@pm04-10.aei.ca) has joined #societal (anne) hi kaos, are you the e-less :) (ingo) I think it might fit in there (kaos) yes - that's me - I made it (ingo) Hi e-less Ann (anne) great you made it (Liz) hi Ann -) [kaos] VERSION (kaos) and even without my husband's help *** kaos is now known as e-less (anne) sal mite not make it tonight (anne) LOL (anne) i was glad to see you added the urls for good and bad e-less (e-less) anne - I might try the earlier editing spot from my office - 6 - 7 pm EST (anne) that is fine, i will put you down (anne) and if you need the 11 pm EST spot, let us know (e-less) Also , not sure about attachment - don't remember sending you any (anne) it was weird, a format i did not know *** shadrak (irwin@irwin.pacificnet.net) has joined #societal (e-less) I'm sure it's office 97 again (ingo) Hi shad (anne) Type: (anne) application/ms-tnef (anne) Encoding: (anne) base64 (anne) hi shad (shadrak) hi all. is this palce slow tonite or is it me? *** anne sets mode: +o shadrak (anne) don't know yet shadrak (ingo) Geocities was awfully slow tonight (anne) e-less, where in canada do you live? (e-less) Montreal - just north of (anne) oh that is nice (Liz) ingo, it truly was. I had to resubmit several times in order to process a page (ingo) I have real trouble using that new file manager (ingo) It will not allow me to transfer files at all (e-less) Yeah, I'd like the maritimes better - St. John's has a street named after my husbands family - old rum runners tha they were (anne) oh i mostly use ftp directly now (anne) as even before i would get errors now (anne) did you bring any rum with you for us e-less (e-less) sure - why not virtual is better than none (Liz) i'll drink to that! *** shadrak has quit IRC (Ping timeout) (anne) uh oh we lost him *** shadrak (irwin@irwin.pacificnet.net) has joined #societal (anne) what else do you guys think we need to do for lesson3 homework (shadrak) gonna be a good nite (shadrak) A band (anne) it looks like we have covered the types of graphics needed so it will be just adding what else we make this week (anne) and i think sal will make a sample of her clickable link music like she did on her webpage (e-less) what about hte single pixel transparent (anne) oh right, (e-less) gif (anne) chris said she would make one, but don't know if she remembers (anne) it got kind of confusing (e-less) I guess since I mentioned it I could volunteer to find it (anne) great e-less (anne) that is in david seigles stuff on killer websites one of his articles talks about it (shadrak) We need a bar, single pixel (chris) "a tiled background square" (?) and a "border backround" (?) (anne) are you talking about the one you use for spacing (e-less) who - what (anne) we do not need all of them tho shadrak (anne) i am hoping i can do something with border background (shadrak) But wouldn't you like to know what they are? (anne) of course we do (ingo) Why don't we take inventory and see what we have / still need (anne) i still was not sure as ingo's background counts as an image background? *** flamingo (flamingo@ad52-009.compuserv e.com) has joined #societal (shadrak) We have a background image on our home page. (anne) and is tile background square just what you do when you take a gif of jpg square and make it a background (anne) hi flamingo (e-less) sorry - which is ingo's bkg (flamingo) Hi everyone (anne) hi family crest in the slide show, music etc (ingo) hi flamingo *** anne sets mode: +o flamingo *** anne sets mode: +o shadrak (anne) oh dear i am lagging to shadrak (anne) then he gave direcrtions with toronto photo (shadrak) Note that the long list under challenge 5 is something for each of us to try to do DURING THE CLASS. Not due this week. (anne) right *** Tina (tatyana@207.179.135.219) has joined #societal *** shadrak sets mode: +o Tina (shadrak) hi Tina (anne) hi tina (flamingo) Hi Tina (ingo) Hi tina (e-less) hi tina *** shadrak sets mode: +o e-less (Tina) hi shad (Tina) hi flamingo (Tina) hi ingo, e-less, liz and anne (anne) we are just taking inventory to see if we are missing anything for homework (e-less) what am i supposed to do with mode (Liz) hi tina (Tina) ok *** dale (dale@205.138.244.34) has joined #societal *** shadrak sets mode: +o dale (anne) hi dale (shadrak) hi dale (flamingo) Hi Dale (dale) Hi All (ingo) hi dale (Liz) hi dale (anne) i do not know if everyone met dale who is part of infosources (e-less) hi dale (shadrak) e-less, are you still working with the Prometheus Team? (e-less) no - dropped the group -) [anne] PING (e-less) I sent e-mail about this earlier today *** shadrak has quit IRC (Connection reset by peer) (anne) is someone else logging this as i am lagging (Tina) I am (anne) k thanks tina (flamingo) I'm logging but I'm lagging too (Tina) seems like we all are lagging (Liz) i'm logging *** shadrak (irwin@irwin.pacificnet.net) has joined #societal (e-less) is lagging when nothing happens for a while - or is it just that everyone is waiting for someone else to talk? (shadrak) boring (anne) here is what shadrak said we could still use for homework *** flamingo sets mode: +o shadrak *** shadrak changes topic to "Where Are Those Bios?" (anne) shadrak) We need a bar, single pixel (chris) "a tiled background square" (?) and a "border backround" (?) (anne) hahahahaha shad (Tina) e-less, it's when nothing happens for awhile then all of a sudden you see all kinds of text at once (Liz) shad, i'll try to post something by tomorrow (Tina) I'll do the border background (anne) oh good liz (Tina) I have tons of them on my personal sight (anne) oh you sure do tina, (e-less) Can I do the tiled background then? (anne) and i will happy to just make anything (anne) good e-less (Tina) oops that is site (anne) i started adding stuff that everyone has tried if there are two right beside the others also (anne) everyone should post stuff they make (anne) even if it is made by someone else (shadrak) Hot Dog! (shadrak) I updated government page. Someone else already did US Federal and Canadia Federal. I can concentrat e on the world. (anne) just a tiny topic to cover shad ;) (anne) is there anything else we want to do with the layout of the homework page? (shadrak) I also posted e-less' good/bad sites (anne) oh i did not realize that was you shad, thoughjt e-less did it (e-less) did you like the good (e-less) thanks shad (anne) she is going to take the 6-7 EST time slot for editing (anne) and see how it goes (shadrak) yes (e-less) I'll try - maybe it will be asier to e-mail to soemone else (anne) and should we post the one chris sent too (anne) oh you will fun when you get in to try it e-less (anne) just save the prior version first before you start (anne) whatever you are comfortable with (e-less) you mean don't delete? (g) (shadrak) The funny gifs you talked about appear to me to be just a string of gifs put in essentially the same spot. (anne) and you can control them with width and height (anne) kathy of bracketeers used them on page at *** Chris (chris@194.19.110.124) joined #societal NOTE THAT this is not chris in our group!! (Chris) Hi all:-)! (Liz) hi chris (ingo) hi chris (flamingo) Hi Chris (e-less) hi chris (anne) http://www.redshift.com/~sparks/ *** dale has quit IRC (Ping timeout) (Chris) What are you doing? *** ingo sets mode: +o Chris (shadrak) Gad, we're down to missing only one. *** flamingo sets mode: +o Chris (anne) and chris knows about them too, crystaldot gif or something like that (anne) and sal mite not make it tonight shad (anne) look to see how she used them for spacing in the table e-less (shadrak) chris are you still planning to make the single pixel gif? (e-less) who - the redshift site? (anne) yes (anne) e-less said she would try it if you did not chris (e-less) can you give the URL again - it went by too fast (anne) http://www.redshift.com/~sparks/ (e-less) thanks (shadrak) you're welcome (anne) you mite be able to scroll up your screen and copy it and then paste it into your browser too e-less (shadrak) or switch to mIRC and use a URL catcher! (e-less) are you kidding - I'm using ie ona very slow system which is choking on office 97 (anne) true, even better (e-less) don't know - would be afraid of losing this channel (anne) true, you mite not have enuf memory to do both (shadrak) I'm planning to submit our homework by sending teachers links to lesson3 and log) Any other ideas? (anne) but you would like mirc too to try it (anne) that is all i think you need to do shadrak (anne) and i put the link to the log on homework 3 too just in case (anne) do we have to do anymore writing for it (e-less) shouldn't we organize it a bit - say list the tasks and then give the discussions logs and or urls's (ingo) I think that should do it (shadrak) so I just need one link. 4 GOODY (anne) e-less, our logs our filled with discussion back and forth (anne) i do not think it is necessary to point to where in the logs *** dale (dale@205.138.244.146) has joined #societal (anne) sb dale (anne) wb *** anne sets mode: +o dale *** shadrak sets mode: +o dale (shadrak) hi dale (e-less) but shouldn't we summarize - condense - give reasons (dale) thanks...I hope to stay longer this time... * anne elects e-less to be the organizer * flamingo thinks that it might be a good idea to put everything under the appropriate Challenge # (e-less) thanks - I'll try to do it but just don't expect it to be uploaded tomorrow (shadrak) NAH. We aren't worried about a grade e-less, and the teachers are mainly interested in seeing that we a re making progress. (anne) hey we have til the end of the week (anne) i am still working on learning to make something and reading PSP (e-less) ok - I really want to do it (e-less) PSP ? (shadrak) So e-less gets to submit the homework? Great! (anne) Paintshop Pro (anne) cause shad would have sent it off tonight before we are ready (anne) you just need to send email to leapin and ghatten with the url (anne) everything else will be posted on the webpage (shadrak) He's a flamboyant pld f--- (shadrak) old (anne) hahahaha (anne) guys, do we have the tiled background covered?? and if so where *** dale has quit IRC (Ping timeout) (Tina) anne, yes (Tina) I mean, ingo and either sal or cynthia made a tiled background (shadrak) What is a tiled background? Anyone know? (e-less) I thought it was the sort of yellow background on one of the pages - can't rememeber whose (anne) and the other was an image background (Tina) a tiled background is a background that looks seamless on a page.... you can't see seams (e-less) image easy (anne) oh e-less, i made a page of the different background squares we had tried so far on my social.html (Tina) ever see a page with a background where you can see where each block starts and ends.... that's not tiled (shadrak) Still don't understand. Is it an image file used as a background, with,, say, gradations in color? (Tina) no, it's not an image (anne) ok, and on my homepage i have an article on how to make seamless backgrounds, (Tina) it's the way a background looks (e-less) yes I saw that page - the big yellowy is what Im thinking of - no seams tehre were tehre (anne) that is on the education page e-less (ingo) I think you talk about the yellow paper I have used ,right (e-less) yes (anne) ingo make it from papery.gif to papery.jpg to make it load in less time (e-less) were tehre seams - don't remember (ingo) so is that a tiled background? (anne) it looks like all one piece (ingo) there are no seams (shadrak) The way you describe it, my government page qualifies e(except possibly for the top frame)? (anne) and look at ingo's bio, where he used his family crest (e-less) so - education page is it - no? (anne) we can add a page, using each background to homework, and say what it is once we figure it out, LOL (ingo) I don't think there are seams at my bio page neither (anne) shadrak, yuou only used background color tho (anne) i agree ingo, just a repeating pattern (anne) and i tried using tina's face logo to make a background (shadrak) That's why I'm confused by the description of what they are! (ingo) I think shad used more than a background colour (anne) you are tiling squares of a background.gif to make a background *** Liz has quit IRC (Ping timeout) (shadrak) had colors in tables (anne) right shad (ingo) Wouldn't background colour mean even, no variations of colour, structure etc (anne) if you had a huge photo that did not repeat itself, would that be an image background? (flamingo) I think that the lesson says "background image" meaning one image on your background (flamingo) yes (e-less) that's what I think (anne) so all of ours are tiled that anyone has used so far (e-less) hard to do withut a candidate for ugly (flamingo) yes, anne (flamingo) Most backgrounds are tiled because it would take to long to load otherwise (anne) chris, did you still want to do the single pixel? or do you want e-less to do it (e-less) could try something simple, transparent maybe (e-less) for image bkg i mean (anne) try it and see then e-less (anne) ingo has his background to use for tiled example on his slideshow e-less (flamingo) Perhaps a background image doesn't have to be too large ? (e-less) ok - so far I'm doing image bkg, organizing challenges for presenting, anything else? (anne) {{{{{{CHRIS}}}}} are you doing single pixel? i did see if you answered before (e-less) I think you volunteered befoe me (anne) but that was before she started her other classes which are time-consum ing for chris *** shadrak has quit IRC (Ping timeout) (anne) what do we need to do for music that we did not cover in the logs (anne) guys, sal added a red music note to shadrak's java script so that it shows up in MSIE instead of the button.gif (anne) to click on for the choice of music -) [Chris] PING (flamingo) Did we put down info about challenge #5? (anne) remind me which challenge that is? *** Liz (~locuse@customs310.ipass.net) has joined #societal (e-less) we should post to grou a discussion of 1. netsacape pallete (anne) welcome back liz (flamingo) Locate resources regarding the use of colors on the web. (e-less) 2. RGB color values (e-less) and 3. one other color related issue (anne) that is covered in chris' tutorial she wrote awhile ago (flamingo) k *** anne sets mode: +o Liz (e-less) but what about posting the discussion? (Tina) brb (e-less) I think I will try to specifiy what the cahllenges were and try to give the answeres that we have - any holes can be filled in once we see what we have (flamingo) I agree ann * anne is glad you are willing to do that (e-less) am not sure whether I can summarize logs accurately - maybe you all can help with that *** shadrak (irwin@irwin.pacificnet.net) has joined #societal (shadrak) SHEEESH *** ingo sets mode: +o shadrak (anne) if you guys don;t mind, i still need to keep reading and trying stuff instead if writing (anne) her is what e-less said she would try to do shadrak (shadrak) Do you want to move to my site; irwin.pacificnet.net ? (anne) I think I will try to specifiy what the cahllenges were and try to give the answeres that we have - any holes can be filled in once we see what we have (anne) that was e-less (anne) not the one that already has the e how said that (anne) why are you saying to do that shadrak (anne) eventually we all get into geocities -) [anne] PING -) [shadrak] PING (shadrak) I'm averaging one minute ping times to most of you. (flamingo) Are things slow or is it just on my end? (anne) shadrak is getting ready to leave us i am afraid ;( (e-less) Readin chal #2 again - we are supposed to discuss one page which uses graphics well and one badly (Tina) I'm back (Chris) me too:-) (anne) and we did that last week and in email (e-less) suggest the misssisippi one fo bad - what about the good (Chris) Let have some personal info here! (Chris) I am: m/30 (anne) i do not think it matters if we have more than one tho (e-less) I am f'48 with 2 canines and 1 m'54 (anne) chris is female (e-less) so what means m/30 (anne) i do not know what she is doing e-less (shadrak) I have brought up my IRC server at irwin.pacificnet.net (shadrak) Try connecting to irwin.pacific net.net I'm on both sites -shadrak- ping? Whatcha want? (anne) brb *** flamingo has quit IRC (Leaving) (Tina) http://www.visi.com/~drozone/hands on/tiles/rock-orig.html (Tina) that will take you to a non-tiled background (anne) irwin, don't you think the counter should go at the bottom of the page? (anne) oh thanks tina (Chris) male and 30 years old. (ingo) I agree with you Anne, I would prefer the counter at the bottom (anne) this mite not be our chris then from the group *** shadrak has quit IRC (Ping timeout) (e-less) that's what I thought you meant but e-with said yoou were female (anne) she is from pacific net *** flamingo (flamingo@ad52-009.compuserv e.com) has joined #societal *** ingo sets mode: +o flamingo *** shadrak (irwin@irwin.pacificnet.net) has joined #societal (anne) ingo, you are getting good at setting ops ;) (anne) shadrak, is this our chris Chris is chris@194.19.110.124 * Chris (shadrak) This is silly! *** anne sets mode: +o shadrak (Tina) that's how I felt last wednesday (anne) we are wondering if you could move the counter down to the bottom of the page (flamingo) Shad is having trouble staying on buffnet... Can we move to his server? (anne) oh is that what he meant, i thought he meant webpage to move the site (anne) give us the irc info again shadrak *** shadrak sets mode: -o Chris (Chris) Thank you Tina, I needed that ping to wake up! (anne) we can form #societal there (shadrak) dunno anne (anne) e-less, do you know how to add a server (e-less) No (shadrak) Most counters I see are on the top, but I really don't care where it is. (Chris) Anne: Were you talking about me? (shadrak) irwin.pacificnet.net (anne) yes chris, why are you saying male???? (anne) unless you really are chrisome now come back again (Chris) why not:-) (anne) instead of ck (anne) are you still doing the single transparent pixel chris? (Chris) what? (anne) tina, even though that rock is a photo, it still repeats on the background (flamingo) Anne and all let's move over to shad's irc server *** e-less has quit IRC (Ping timeout) (anne) e-less does not know how and has a different irc program (anne) woops she is gone too ;( (Tina) shad, I tgried that but it won't let me on (Tina) it says there's not enough parameters (flamingo) Which program do you have eless (anne) i will try too *** Chris was kicked by shadrak (shadrak) *** shadrak sets mode: +b *!*@194.19.110. 124 Session Close: Mon Feb 10 21:29:21 1997 Session Start: Mon Feb 10 21:30:05 1997 *** Now talking in #societal *** shadrak sets mode: +o anne [shadrak SOUND] (anne) woops forgot to hit the other mirc to try irwins *** shadrak sets mode: +s (flamingo) Anne, I don't think that was our Chris (anne) shadrak, was that really not our chris (anne) i agree with you guys (flamingo) Chris would have answered you (anne) i agree flamingo (shadrak) Coming in from wrong site. (anne) i am emailing bec with the isp numbers for her to check (shadrak) chris doesn't capitalize her name (flamingo) Nor does she use chris on irc (shadrak) she does at times (flamingo) oh (shadrak) ping times are better (flamingo) Things have sped up since you kicked Chris (anne) maybe just a coincidence (anne) now i wonder if e-less will know how to join? (Tina) ok so do we have anything else to discuss (flamingo) I think that everyone has done a wonderful job on all of this week's lesson. (anne) e-less said she would try to make any graphics that we need for our pages (anne) but she is not sure what area she should work on, wish she would get back so we can talk about it *** kaos (~ann@pm02-07.aei.ca) has joined #societal (flamingo) Thanks to everyone for their ideas and comments this week! It is helpful! (anne) i agree with you flamingo *** kaos is now known as e-less (anne) wb kaos e-less (e-less) couldn't make the cahnge - sorry (anne) e-less, we decided that was not the chris who is part of our group (anne) she would never have acted that way (e-less) what was the other site? *** anne sets mode: +o e-less (anne) the site for which e-less? (shadrak) Tina, in Mirc go to FILE|SETUP| Local Info and check "Normal" on bottom of menu. You ought to be able to connect to my site then. (e-less) where we all tried to go when shadrak couldn't stay here (Chris) What seem is the problem shadrak? (Tina) shad, ok (flamingo) Shad, I connected with Server clicked. Is that right? (anne) e-less was not sure which area to join (anne) http://www.visi.com/~drozone/hands on/tiles/rock-orig.html (anne) that is where there are panels of an image e-less (e-less) btw - I checked the last site - the bkg image is composed of parts (anne) right (e-less) not a single image (shadrak) Chris just apologized..didn't know we were private. (e-less) I meant - when you tried to switch IRC "sites" - what ever theyr're called (anne) e-less, where you added the buffnet server to connect, you should be able to add irwin's server the same way (anne) putting in the address he gave us (flamingo) tina, made it to shad's server (e-less) ok - so what is the correct address for him (anne) but unless you have another irc program, you probably cannot connect to two servers at once (shadrak) Flaming. that's just in mIRC 4.7 (flamingo) I have mirc (shadrak) you're using sprychat here (ingo) Shad, I got a DNS lockup failure when I tried to switch (flamingo) and mirc on your server (anne) shadrak, i think i mite have had a password from before when i added your server (anne) i am going to try (shadrak) Don't know anything about VIRC (ingo) k (e-less) I'm using IRC for windows 95 - by hummingbird - Session Start: Mon Feb 10 21:44:42 1997 *** Now talking in #societal ) whewwwww (Tina) are we going to be talking about anything new??? if not I'm going to go (flamingo) I guess I have the right program then ;-) (flamingo) Hi anne ) it was taking out the password and checking local that did it (flamingo) This is much faster (e-less) I tried irwin.pacificnet.net - timed out looking for host (anne) ingo, did you try it again (anne) and see that local info is to be checked normal and not server where you add or edit the server (anne) tina, i do not know (shadrak) I have nothing new. (flamingo) Me either (ingo) I just tired it agian - didn't work (shadrak) e-less try 207.171.23.84 (anne) exzcept we need to get e-less slotted into one of the govt, social or education areas (shadrak) Good point anne (e-less) try where (shadrak) Try those numbers as an IRC address (anne) tina, are you finding the stuff you need for your page? *** ingo (a066@dialup1.lambton.on.ca) has joined #societal (Tina) anne, yes (shadrak) ingo made it (anne) good (ingo) The numbers worked for me (flamingo) hi ingo (shadrak) ah so! (anne) liz, did you try getting to shadrak's server (shadrak) He used the numeric address *** kaos (ann@pm02-07.aei.ca) has joined #societal (Liz) no. i believe i have to disconnect here before i can connect to him (ingo) hi shad *** kaos is now known as e-less (shadrak) and here comes kaos (anne) do you windows 95? (flamingo) e-less made it (e-less) I made it (flamingo) hi e-less (shadrak) I think I know where our next meeting is going to be. (e-less) thanks shadrak -) [Liz] VERSION (Liz) no (e-less) he flamingo (anne) liz, i will send you info on how to add another mirc so you can connect twice (flamingo) I agree shadrak (e-less) I'd better save this then (shadrak) Will keep out phoney Chris" (anne) you just have to copy mirc.exe to mirc2.exe and then rename your original mirc.exe to mirc1.exe and add an icon (anne) i will find it in the fac sheet to be sure i give you the right directions (ingo) Was it just co-incidence that this was a Chris or did he watch and puposly bud in ) and i will send liz info on how to add another mirc so she can connect ) that was so strange ingo (flamingo) How much disk space does that take up anne (e-less) A big black nose is telling me it's time to go (anne) not very much flamingo (anne) you do not need to duplicate the other files and can point to your same sound files, etc (e-less) will try to send my bio to you soon e-with (flamingo) send it to me too ... I usually open another irc client (anne) i hope this is not killing my logs tho (anne) flamingo, win95 you can connect twice without a second client i thought (flamingo) that will be interesting -) [flamingo] VERSION (e-less) I gues I will do the single pixel too since Chris was phoney (flamingo) how (anne) ask shadrak (flamingo) k *** shadrak has quit IRC (Ping timeout) ) e-less, email chris and she will send you information on it too (flamingo) Shadrak, how do I open mirc two times ) right now flamingo is using two mircs (shadrak) Click on what ever icon you used the first time. *** Liz (locuse@customs310.ipass.net) has joined #societal (e-less) ok - thanks - was great - are we meeting again when *** flamingo has quit IRC (flamingo) *** shadrak sets mode: +o anne (flamingo) is that all shad? (Liz) i made it! *** shadrak sets mode: +o e-less (anne) this is weird being on the same channel two places *** shadrak sets mode: +o flamingo *** shadrak sets mode: +o ingo *** shadrak sets mode: +o Liz ) oh good liz (shadrak) I'm going to eat now. Fell free to stay here as long as you please. ) thanks shad (Tina) e-less, have you thought about what topic you want to work on? *** shadrak is now known as shadaway (flamingo) anne, how do you know that I am using mirc two times? ) tina just asked you e-less if you knew which topic you wanted to work on ) i thought that it was you said flamingo? ) what you said (flamingo) I was on Sprychat and mirc (e-less) choicces are govt, education and what ? (anne) tina, it looks like it did not work for you to add shad's numbers then? (Tina) anne, oh yes it worked, I was there but I left (Tina) is everyone else there? (Tina) just a sec I'll come back (anne) yes they are tina (flamingo) e-less, I'm doing teen/childre n's concerns *** Tatyana (tatyana@stjhts16c21.nbnet.nb .ca) has joined #societal (e-less) maybe we could decide later on - I have plenty to do for rest of week - can fill in wherver you want *** Tina (tatyana@207.179.135.219) has left #societal ) that is fine e-less ) we all have sort of taken a break from the other anyway to learn this ) anything that fits in with societal issues (flamingo) Wow, anne, it works. I'm on mIRC twice. :-) ) i wonder what will happen to the logs tho (Tatyana) hmmm (Tatyana) I don't know ) maybe we should have made the channel societal2 (flamingo) lol (e-less) ok - night all -btw - if you need to reach me during the day - I'm at asteer@icao.org - otherwise I won't get mail until evening when it's too late for me to do anything about it (flamingo) I think that you will see a different start time ) thanks eless ) except we have two logs going at once (flamingo) e-less, do you want both of your email address on our group list? *** e-less has quit IRC (EOF From client) (flamingo) Well all, I'm off to bed... good night! ) we can call an irc meeting for this weekend if need an extra ) nite flamingo, thanks ) sal and chris will not find us at buffnet on secret channel, (flamingo) thanks anne for all of your info ) welcome ;) ) and for yours too thanks *** flamingo has quit IRC (Leaving) (Tatyana) night everyone ) nite, thanks *** Tatyana (tatyana@stjhts16c21.nbnet.nb .ca) has left #societal (e-less) Well ok - but would it be too much tto try to specifiy which is which so I don't get inundated by mail both places ) not sure what you mean e-less ) that if it is important only for the day, that we send to you at work ) most of our info is not that critical that you need it right away ) just which place you prefer to get the email *** Retrieving #societal channel info... (e-less) yes please - but if only way you can do is to send both places - is ok too - prefer mail at home - too much going on a work *** anne sets mode: -s (e-less) thanks anne - you're really great at stating what needs to be said clearly (e-less) Night all *** e-less has quit IRC (Connection reset by peer) (ingo) what do we still need to do for our page (ingo) which server are we using - this or irwin's (anne) oh i am confused (anne) chris and sal mite still come so let's hold this open but use irwins for main talk right now (ingo) hwo come (anne) did not know which one to check that is all (anne) see you at irwins (ingo) Liz, are you still here (Liz) i need to incorporate my distance ed sites and sites pertaining to home schooling (Liz) i took off the buttons above the table and used the image map at the top and bottom (ingo) I think I stayed out of those areas ) oh i will have to look at it liz (ingo) ok, i took them off at the top and have the logo/ image bar at the top ) there are two groups doing online education so we do not want to duplicate what they are doing (ingo) I have not odne it at the bottom - yet ) one of them is bracketeers, and can't rem but another study group is doing something like that too ) ingo and liz, were you thinking the child/parent area and other factors on education will be separate linked article too ) with what is there as an intro? (Liz) it does play a role in the continuing/life-long learning section (ingo) we will always find 'duplication' if we after all work all on the same main theme ) oh i think we for sure want to cover it ) as a topic (ingo) We still can make changes to the write -up to incorporate another paragraph ) k, then we will try to keep those in the areas where they are now and just expand ) there is lots we can say for special needs too ) or just keep them more general to say they are factors? ) each one could be a total web site in itself (ingo) right, the topic is so wide ranged, it's the difficult job to restrict nad set boundaries Session Close: Mon Feb 10 22:23:13 1997 ) the ones we end up being more interested in or finding stuff can be expanded ) liz, do not forget to close out your channel from buffnet too (ingo) Liz, I just looked at the links in the description, ther you got quite a bit more info, great (ingo) Anne, buffnet is closed, Liz and I left from there (Liz) what would be a good limit on the number of links? I have more links, but I don't want to be one of those offenders that keep you scrolling downward for days. :-) ) hahahahaha liz ) which place are you talking about now for links (Liz) k-12. i will probably re-organize and move some of the info to continuing/life-long education ) i would like to add more in the child development and parent section ) if there are any links you have found that should go there, i can write it up and also add the asset chart somewhere ) liz, will look at your k-12 stuff more too ) we could add the heading as the link for links for the factors too if we just want to describe like you are doing for k-12 ) we did not really discuss how to incorporate graphics in all of this either (Liz) i was going to ask if you wanted to start a page (via link) for "child upbringing and development ) ok i will try my hand at it (Liz) do you plan on doing it in table form? (ingo) I would almost suggest to wait for the next assignment and see what else we need to add to our page ) that seems to be the best way to organize it dont you think ) the next lesson outline is on tables/frames/cgi etc (Liz) do you want me to start it by incorporating the existing 3 links? (ingo) I have used tables for the to be orgsanized links, I still need to work on the others ) ingo, yours to be organized are in life long learning part then in a table ) i kind of like the articles themselves the way links are included to, a combination is nice (ingo) life lon learning and jobs still need to be schanged (ingo) my accent again - changed ) hahaha ) liz, is your accent southern? (Liz) yeah, from the northern region :-) :-) ) i am on vacation next week, so probably will not start the stuff til next week if that is ok (ingo) sure, I think we are up to date with our assignment - more or less ) well you guys made it that way, not me yet ) liz, let me try a table from scratch so i learn how to do it ) and i will look at yours for inspiratio n as to how to do it (Liz) no problem ) i should take the ones that are there in the paragraph and put them in a table with a description? (Liz) yes, and place the link on "child upbringing..." ) k good ) then keep adding as we find what we think should go (ingo) I see what you mean (ingo) this way we can use all links fitting to a topic (Liz) right *** shadaway changes topic to "The Education Team" ) what about if there is a specific topic to expand and then include links that relate in the discussion ) LOL shad *** shadaway is now known as shadrak ) you getting ready to turn out the lights???? (shadrak) No, I can leave it up all night, but Liz has to get up at 4AM (shadrak) EST ) groan, poor liz (Liz) you got that RIGHT! (ingo) don't complain - that way your'e off work earlier :) ) shad, did you think of anything else we should do (Liz) as a matter of fact, my husband is studying right beside me, and complimenting me on my bags (under my eyes) :-) (shadrak) I have to wake my wife at @:30AM EST (she doesn't hear the alarm). She's leaving early to drive down to our son's place. ) are you usually an early rise shad? ) r (shadrak) I was skimming what you were saying and it occurred to me that what we put on our pages and what we learn (and do for homewaor) are not necessarily the same. Our pages should contain what we think is right, not what Ghatten and Leapin want to do. For example I don't plan to ever use CGI or even learn how to code in Perl. ) and they said that we only needed to have an understanding and consider it ) they do not expect that we would learn java either, except for chris and shadrak (shadrak) My body wakes me 5-6 hours after I go to bed. I have a spastic colon that doesn't seem to like being horizontal. (shadrak) Gotta get back to that someday. ) anyway, i think what ingo and liz have written so far is interesting (shadrak) Quite so. (ingo) thanx (Liz) i think it needs a little more "juice" ) and that is the paright ) we will juice it up (shadrak) OJ again? (Liz) i keep mulling over it trying to add something (Liz) shadrak, no he's broke ) each part may end up being something you link to as they get bigger (shadrak) I think it would be a good idea if we reviewed each others work and made critical comment. Maybe need to wait a bit till people are ready. (Liz) the foundation of the writing is contributed to ingo (Liz) is anyone ever ready for criticism? ?? :-) (ingo) but i needed you guys to add, edit and change (shadrak) I'd like to see it for my stuff now. Don't promise to listen to what anyone says. ) tee-hee shad ) is there a time in the evening i can have to edit for the education page (ingo) I just reviewed over 20 college sites - interesting job. May be we should have someone from another (ingo) group to give feedback (ingo) sure, set the time ) doesn't really matter, just did not want to bump into anyone (Liz) bump all you want :-) (ingo) will we ever get feedback from any of out faculty on what we produced ) we can always go back and fix it ) ingo, they just always say it is great (ingo) helps :( ) we need to ask them a specific question if we want feedback ) our group is really the best feedback (ingo) may be we should suggest peer evaluation ) and then those that did not know what we were doing to see if it makes sense is good too (Liz) that sounds good ) flamingo is showing hers to folks she works with for ideas and feedback too (Liz) guys, i'm going to have to say good nite. I currently have one eye open and the other is sure to close when the clock strikes 11pm ;-) (shadrak) anne, I'm reading my mail now. Do you plan to put all thos new URLs on your site? (shadrak) nite liz ) thanks liz, i will pick 8pm to edit if that is ok with you guys (ingo) nite liz (Liz) that's fine (ingo) sure ) shad, my page is so long i have not been adding to it *** Liz (locuse@customs310.ipass.net) has left #societal ) and i figure leapin is putting them in her html library (shadrak) K I'll save your letter (ingo) I think it's time for me to hit the pillws as well, ) oh wait, i cannot do 8pm as that is my other editing (ingo) nite all ) i will do 9pm instead (ingo) ok, I'm easy (shadrak) nite ingo ) and maybe some when i get home from work ) that is great ) nite guys ) thanks for the server shadBack to log list
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