Log Societal Group: Mar, 10 92 1997
Session Start: Mon Mar 10 20:17:22 1997 *** Now talking in #societal *** sal (~xxxx@anxp5.ob.centuryinter.net) has joined #societal (anne) hi sal *** anne sets mode: +o sal (sal) hi...typed in /societal and got unknown command...so was working on the alias... *** sal sets mode: +s (anne) well i am trying to get something finally written for the education page (sal) oh, good... (anne) i find it fascinating how they are hooking up neighborhoods with puters (anne) this one is in a low income area (sal) hmmm...sounds good... (sal) just sent frogz an animated dancing frog... (anne) and that special grant project has information technology for Indians, Alasaka, and am reading where else (sal) li'l fat fellow... (anne) oh good that is neat (sal) oh, that is good, anne... *** Liz (~locuse@customs38.ipass.net) has joined #societal (anne) hi liz *** Tatyana (tatyana@stjhts19c39.nbnet.nb .ca) has joined #societal (anne) my ops button is not working (Tatyana) hi *** Tatyana is now known as Tina (sal) hi, folks... *** sal sets mode: +o Tina (anne) sal, can you do it please, hi tina *** anne sets mode: +o Liz *** anne sets mode: +o Liz (Liz) hi everyone (anne) that happened to me last nite too (anne) did anyone get a lesson yet? (Tina) I take it no one has received the lesson so far? (sal) now, anne..what on earth could have happened to it... (Liz) no, i haven't (sal) nope... *** flamingo (flamingo@ad51-145.compuserv e.com) has joined #societal (anne) sal, for some reason all my commands lag (anne) hi flamingo *** sal sets mode: +o flamingo (sal) hi, cynthia... (flamingo) Hi Everyone! (anne) it mite just be the hen house tonight (Tina) hi (sal) brb...dryer honked at me... (anne) ingo had a prior committment and wonder if shad got back (Liz) cluck cluck (anne) hahahaha (flamingo) I haven't gotten the lesson yet (anne) and it was not posted at VU either (anne) bet they are behind with mailings as the calendar is not here either (Tina) I just checked the university... the lessons aren't out yet * anne is glad she does not have another challenge to read that she does not understand the first time thru ;) (anne) I think I needed the Intermediate class instead of jumping to Advanced -) [anne] PING (anne) am not getting a ping (flamingo) Why does the HTML Validator say that this tag has a problem... (hr size=3 width=75%) (Tina) because the validators don't like the % (flamingo) BTW, it works (Tina) to get around that put it in quotes (Tina) like size="3" width="75%" (flamingo) ok (flamingo) thanks (anne) right (Tina) welcome (anne) it is amazing what does work (anne) even when folks do not end a body and html tag it works (flamingo) I've tried so many different things trying to fix that tag (anne) my ping was 1 min 32 secs ;( (sal) back (flamingo) Also, the validator doesn't like that I have the (B) tag at the top of my page and the (/B) at the bottom. Why? (anne) hmmmm, i found sometimes i had to set it separately for different things to show up (Tina) don't know (flamingo) It is weird. (flamingo) I've always done my pages this way. *** e-less (~ann@pm03-01.aei.ca) has joined #societal (anne) try that gentler kinder validator tina said and it will give you reasons why it shows up flamingo (anne) hi e-less (sal) hi, eless (e-less) hello everyone (flamingo) Hi e-less (anne) i had (H3) in a DList and it said it did not like trying to use that as a font formatting device (flamingo) Anne, the reasons don't go with it though (anne) hmm, for one of them it did (anne) i found one that referenced to you a document that explained it, had an error link as to why right at the spot (flamingo) Also, I have tried 4 different validators and get different errors in each one (anne) oh that always happens (anne) DR HTML is the easiest one just to make sure everything matches (flamingo) Is there an off line validator that I can download? (sal) that is a really interesting thing about the validators...even they can't decide what works... (Tina) brb (anne) flamingo, there is one reference to one on my webpage *** Tina has quit IRC (My mind isn't always in the gutter... sometimes it comes out to feed.) (sal) i think there is, but can't remember the name... (anne) it is at the end of the validators under Extras on my homepage (flamingo) It is a pain to have to upload a page and then fix it and upload again (flamingo) Thanks anne (anne) i cannot do any irc commands hardly (sal) that's why i like geo so much... *** anne changes topic to "Let's Set the Table" (flamingo) I'm trying to clean up all of the link pages that I have completed (anne) good idea before you forget what the heck you did (e-less) hahahah-argh (anne) tee-hee (flamingo) I think that our pages will be checked to see if they make it through a validator... they have talked a lot about this (e-less) the last one is it! (anne) at least we have four weeks to finish everything (anne) hahaha, sure e-less (flamingo) I'm glad about that anne (flamingo) More time is needed *** anne sets mode: +o e-less (anne) now it is working (flamingo) I have so much fine tuning that I want to do to the Teen pages (e-less) it was awful - to discover that the whole thing vhnaged again once it was up in geociites (anne) i wonder what that 828 is and was surprised ghatten did not know anything about it (anne) e-less, what editor do you use? (flamingo) Anne, did you see that there isn't a teacher for that class? (anne) says staff (sal) probably richard... (e-less) now I'm trying to use front page - it has a good interface (flamingo) I think that you are right sal (sal) no, me either, anne...i figure it will end up being something for vu...did you read the description well? (anne) liz, talked to ingo last night, and we need to meet on irc soon for our page (flamingo) I'm still not sure about 828 (anne) yes, sal, that is what i thought after i read it *** ingo (a066@dialup2.lambton.on.ca) has joined #societal (anne) hi ingo (flamingo) I think that you are right sal (ingo) Hi guys (sal) hi, ingo *** sal sets mode: +o ingo (flamingo) Hi Ingo (e-less) hi guy (anne) i think i might unsubscribe myself from 828 if it is not what we want to do *** anne sets mode: +o ingo (flamingo) without the flam (flamingo) Anne, do you think that we could get more info on 828 (anne) oh just realized what you meant flam ;) (flamingo) lol (flamingo) Ingo does that to me all of the time (anne) guess we could right to Richard haaha (anne) write (flamingo) I really don't want to do a page for Vu (anne) me either (sal) hahaha...gee...last time i wrote him he ignored it (flamingo) I would like to continue with the ideas and thoughts that we have been working on for months now (anne) we could still continue informally as a group if people are interested and add info from whatever class we all take (ingo) well flam why not - is a lot faster and I know how to write the rest of the name - don't over use it :) (anne) i agree with you flamingo (flamingo) Ingo: lol (sal) y'all feel free to fill my slot... (anne) and infosources is not done yet either (anne) hahahahaha sal (anne) as if you ever used it lol (anne) oh i was talking about editing schedule (ingo) what did I miss -looks like you decide - undecide to take 828, right (flamingo) I think that I will take the graphics class and if 828 is what I want (big if) I will take that (sal) hahaha (anne) doesn't hurt to keep signed up and see what comes (sal) in the group, anne, in the group... (anne) i know i see that now sal (flamingo) Like I told you anne, I don't want to have a bunch of unfinished sites and move onto something new (anne) me either (anne) i am just now getting started (anne) liz, when is your distance ed class finished? (sal) that's what bugs me about infosources... (anne) right sal, we still did not do the search engine (flamingo) I think that the biggest negative with 825 is that the focus ended up being learning coding and had little to do with content. (sal) it's not nearly finished...and here i am doing something else... (ingo) why not 'audit' the course to get the information (anne) good idea ingo, that is what i thought about too, (ingo) and use it on our existing sites (anne) except we mite not get that much info (flamingo) Does VU really have an Audit status? (Liz) flamingo, I'm taking a graduate course and the opposite is true. (anne) but i figure we learn a lot just by trying (anne) flamingo, i took two other classes and just read the lessons, have some i never got too (Liz) The focus is on content, and coding is at a minimum (anne) i did not ever participate (flamingo) Liz, I would like to see something in the middle (sal) right, flamingo...i don't feel that i have learned anything from this blooming course that i couldn't have worked out on my own with existing stuff on the web...it just wasn't what i was hoping for...there was so little content... (ingo) don't know - but as there is no certification involved there should be no problem (Liz) April :-( (anne) woops, tina never came back (anne) i heard from alexis who taught a webpage class a year ago when i started at SVU... *** ck (~emeraldCi@ts3-193.pacific.net) has joined #societal (sal) oh, neat, anne... (sal) hi, chris (ck) hi everyone *** sal sets mode: +o ck *** Tina (tatyana@stjhts15c02.nbnet.nb.ca ) has joined #societal (Tina) re *** sal sets mode: +o Tina (anne) a small part of it was on html and webpages, she said she would teach the class the same way, but... (ck) hi Tina, how was the move (anne) and html beginning, Intermediate, Advanced (ingo) Hi chris / tina (anne) hi ck and wb tina (flamingo) Anne, I think that you are right... So I guess I should sign up for 828 and do what I want with it (Tina) it was gook, almost unpacked (Tina) hi ingo (anne) i did sign up for graphics too tho (Tina) from reading about 828.... I don't think everyone who signs up for it will be on the course (Tina) to me it sounded like they're going to go through all the applicatio ns and pick out the people they want for the course (flamingo) I would like to see our group continue working on our pages and add some more content... What do you all think? (anne) oh really * anne seconds flamingo's suggestion (ck) my page has no content (heehee) (anne) you should see all the content flamingo has, it is very impressive (sal) i'm outta here...i don't particular ly like the direction of this project...it just wasn't what i had in mind... (flamingo) Oooo Chris, sure you do.... (sal) so i won't be continuing (anne) k sal, sorry about that (anne) but we still need to do infosource s too (anne) and keep the study group for that (anne) we still need the short paragraph on the main page too (anne) wonder what shadrak is planning to do -) [anne] PING (anne) no ping response yet ;( (anne) brb (Tina) what *** anne has quit IRC (Ping timeout) (flamingo) whoops, there goes anne (sal) yep... (Tina) sal, what did you have in mind? (ingo) I think we could create our own 'projects' and work on them together if we want (flamingo) I have put a lot of time into my pages and want to put more time into them. (sal) don't really think it matters now, tina... (Liz) I would like that to continue working on it, but I won't be taking any VU courses next term. Plate is too full. (ck) What really matters is that I learned a lot (ck) I never got a schedule for next semester, where do you find about the classes? (sal) that's good...i just felt pressure the whole time (Tina) ck, you can find out at VU (ingo) I got it from horizons.com (ck) thanks Tina (ingo) did anybody of you get the 'new assignment' yet (flamingo) I was ok about the amount of work and enjoy learning lots of new things but would like to finish my pages (Tina) no ingo (ck) not me ingo (flamingo) me either (e-less) no - none nad I'm doing 2 others also - nada (ingo) I checked on the VU page and it was not posted yet (flamingo) I haven't gotten anything from any of my classes either (ingo) I think that's one of the problems of VU - diorganized and lack of structure :( (ingo) disorganized (e-less) and their pages take forever to load (sal) right, ingo (ck) but it is free (ingo) i know (sal) that's true, and my grandfather always said you get what you pay for! (ck) If it hadn't been for VU, I never would have met you all (flamingo) I usually get my lessons by 12 noon (ck) And I am really glad I learned about the transparent pixel gif ;) (ingo) not quite -I guess we learned from eachother quite a lot (Liz) chris, it that a good thing??? :-) (ck) definitely (ingo) and I dinn't want to miss that part of the learning process (flamingo) I've learned so much from all of you.. and it was VU that brought us together... I used to be all alone in this game (ingo) didn't (Tina) guess anne isn't coming back (ck) Liz, I am really grateful for the web pages you turned us on to. I had a lot of fun with the graphics tip the other night (Liz) great! (flamingo) I love a good challenge and each of you has helped me enjoy these challenges. (Liz) i bump into the resources because of "on-the-job" learning *** anne (ahartman@biras238.wwnet.com) has joined #societal (flamingo) wb anne (anne) hi again (flamingo) wb anne (anne) hope i stick this time (e-less) welcome back (ck) And Ingo and Shad really pushed the edge of the envelope, trying out the challenges and showing us the way (anne) any decisions made yet *** flamingo sets mode: +o anne (Tina) hi anne (Liz) I find better interaction & collaboration with you guys than with my classmates in my grad course (flamingo) I have really enjoy that pushing too (ck) I really enjoyed Tina's beautiful artwork (anne) ck you did too that challenges us to learn (flamingo) yes, chris... me too (ingo) just take a bigger envelope the next time - chris :) e.g legal size - or make it a parcel (Liz) I concur chris. I was impressed. (flamingo) Ingo: lol (ck) rofl ingo (ck) thanx anne (anne) flamingo, can you send me the missing first part for the log please (flamingo) It is hard doing this stuff alone... everyone has been really good in helping each other out and let the others know when something needed to be fixed (flamingo) sure, anne (anne) thanks (anne) i agree about the helping part flamingo (Tina) yes I learned about windows (ck) I have to admint, becaus of AnnE and Ann, I know everything I need to know about tables (heehee) (Tina) and got that javascript to work (flamingo) Chris: lol (anne) it seemed so simple when we started didn't it (ck) But I will NEVER EVER put a border on my web pagee (anne) hahahaha ck (e-less) I'm still trying to catch up with y'all (anne) it seems to work best with small borders that are decorate (flamingo) Chris: I don't think I will either (ingo) why not, just don't write into the lefy panel - or use frames :) (anne) netscape 4 was the clinchy part cause nothing showed right in it * ingo hiding under a table (flamingo) Ingo: Frames is the answer... don't you think sal (ducking) ;-) (ck) rofl ingo (anne) ingo, MSIE drives me nuts with frames, you can not go back just one frame! (e-less) no - it's simple - pick a set # of pixels and let teh rest float (e-less) as long as it's less than 650 or so - should be fine * ck throws a 10-ton table at flamingo (anne) no it is still too wide for me e-less (flamingo) Chris: I just spewed on my keyboard... (e-less) no - Anne - can't be it's only 652 wide (anne) 600 wide is best for me (ingo) the resolution is 640 *480 (anne) and that is what most of the tables i have looked at are set at e-less (ck) flamingo, I am glad to hear you will continue working on your pages, I bet they help out a lot of kids (ingo) stay under 600 and your'e fine (e-less) ok - I'll do it - but no - the geocities was 63? (ck) Remember that MSIE and Netscape both offset tables (differently of course), so have to allow for that as well (flamingo) Chris: I have a vision... plus I hate to not finish things... it really bothers me (anne) 630 yes, but the rest of the table was 600 (e-less) and I never could get the "*" to work (anne) i think the trick is to write about something you are really interested in for a web page (sal) RIGHT (ingo) if you use more than 600 you will get into left - right scrolling (flamingo) Yes, anne (ck) So true anne (flamingo) I was glad that I stayed with what I really wanted to do (ck) My problem is that I couldn't come up with more than just a link page (anne) e-less, that only * only worked when we had the single pixel, (anne) it did not really do anything (sal) folks, i need to go... *** sal (~xxxx@anxp5.ob.centuryinter.net) has left #societal (e-less) I thouhgt it was when you set part as pixel and wanted to let the rest float (flamingo) whoops that was fast * anne is not sure but seems like it should have worked that way (ck) I found the VU schedule at http://www.vu.org/register.html (ck) I will probably take The Beginner's Graphic and Design Shop (flamingo) Anne, do you know what program they will be using for the graphics course at VU? (anne) sal and i are signed up for it too (anne) flamingo, i don't know (e-less) me too (ck) Oh good! (Tina) ck I'm taking that also (anne) you don't want it to duplicate your PSP one tho (flamingo) I'm going to take that course too (anne) that will be fun if we all take it too (Tina) and I'm signed up for 828 but don't know if I'll be picked for it (flamingo) I have had lots of fun with the PSP class (ingo) am I the only one left in the dark (ingo) :( (ck) Liz, even tho you aren't taking classes, I hope you stay in touch (anne) ck, see if you think that 828 implies that you must be picked for it (ck) Tina, you could teach that class (Tina) ck lol I doubt it ;b (Tina) I feel I got lots to learn :) but thanks * flamingo thinks that Tina could teach the graphics class :-) (anne) i was already registered and it accepted my registration for 828 (Tina) flamingo ;b lol (ck) I don't see where it implies that anne (anne) i really did not think it is a selected class (Liz) chris, i'll keep in touch. (Tina) hmm i must have read it wrong (ingo) I think the internship is the selceted group (anne) liz, will you continue doing the education page tho? (ck) I hope so liz (Liz) i will probably continue to email more resources & tip sites as i find them. (flamingo) I think that anyone that was in 825 can take 828 but it looks like they will pick your project (anne) oh they did say everyone would be ASSIGNED a challenging project did not it? (Liz) anne, yes. (anne) k great (flamingo) yes, anne (ingo) looks like it is a certificate program with selection (Liz) the page actually overlaps a project i am doing in my other course. (anne) singly or as part of a group (ck) Oh, I didn't read the print above....yes they say 'selected' (anne) well, this group would for sure be picked (flamingo) anne, I think so too * anne is going to withdraw her application (ingo) may be the certification is the carrot (ck) It is too much work for me, I will stick to 'fun with graphics' (flamingo) anne, which application??? (anne) my registration for the class flamingo (flamingo) k (flamingo) I am on the fence post with 828 (anne) i really want to have fun and learn the graphics too (anne) flamingo, you should take it then and see what happens (flamingo) I am doing the graphic for sure (anne) it mite really help you complete and enhance your teen pages as you found nothing like it on the web (anne) first project should be to design a new splash page for SVU (e-less) right on (anne) i still want to know how you look and find the graphics you use tina (anne) like for your weather page (flamingo) I still worry about taking on too much... teaching full time during the day.... teaching a class at night... teaching with VU and a family on top of that (Tina) moi??? (anne) flamingo, that is full enuf already (anne) yes you tina (ck) wow flamingo! (Tina) well anne, I have various cd's of clipart, stock photographs (Tina) and use those (Liz) flamingo, i thought my plate was full (Tina) sometimes I colorize the clipart to something new (Tina) add shadows (Tina) and stuff (flamingo) LOL, I love to be challenged though (anne) sounds good tina (anne) does anyone know who started the expression "full plate" (ingo) nope (Liz) no, anne (anne) it's like all of a sudden everyone was saying it (anne) noticed it first with administrato rs in my school system (flamingo) not sure anne... but it gets the point across (ck) didn't shad send something out about that (anne) it sure does (Tina) if we get our lesson tomrrow when do we want to have the next meeting (ingo) must have been the beginning of the 'all you can eat' times (anne) hashahahaha (ck) I am really having fun with JavaScript (Liz) lol (flamingo) hehehe (anne) next meeting anytime is fine with me (flamingo) me too (ingo) I am 'still' flexible * anne says no you are not, we still have frames ingo ;) (anne) hahahaha (Liz) i'm flexible (flamingo) hahahaha (ck) lol anne (ingo) well those frames are the new flwxible adustible and other ble frames, eh (flamingo) Ingo: the frames look good (ck) Anne, I really want to thank you for keeping all our stuff together, the logs and the homework links (ingo) thanks flam * anne admits if you gotta have frames, they are ok (anne) oh welcome chris (anne) it helps me get organized, haha (flamingo) Anne, you have done a lot of work... thanks (Tina) yes (Tina) thanks anne.... it is a big job (ingo) thank god you took that part on (ck) There are 973 matches with 'full plate' at altavista.com (Liz) i must admit. thanks to this course and you guys, i have gotten my first introduction to IRC. We use Netforum (discussion groups) to communicate in my other course. (ingo) I would have been lost without it (anne) and e-less really organized our discussions (anne) oh that is great liz (Liz) appreciate your hard work anne. :) (flamingo) What a group! :-) (anne) oh ck, just saw yours, that is funny (ingo) can I tell you a short true story anbout a full plate (flamingo) sure ingo (e-less) yes anne - thanks for keeping track (Liz) chris, do that me we wil have a buffet??? :-) (anne) and e-less, we still have not heard about your video equipment and what we can do with it (ingo) It happened on a trip from Germany to finnland - 3 day ferry journey (e-less) well - I suppose I could put up video clips of stuff (flamingo) cool I loved living in Germany (ingo) an all you can eat buffet - one guy ate and ate and then packed plastic bags with food to take along (ingo) and short before the cash register a waitress came with a glass of buttermilk (ingo) pouring it over the sandwitches and saying - Sir, you (ingo) forgot you buttermilk (anne) hahahaha (flamingo) That is great! (ck) cute story (e-less) really funny (ingo) It really happened (anne) that is really amazing (Liz) oh how embarrassing! (ingo) Well, I hope the guy learned his lesson - btw, I never saw him again teh next days on the trip (ck) I wonder if it is from 'full plate of armour'? (anne) as in too heavy (anne) here comes shadrak *** shadrak (irwin@irwin.pacificnet.net) has joined #societal -) *shadrak* we are here in secret (ck) could be, shadrak will know (anne) hi *** anne sets mode: +o shadrak (shadrak) hello (anne) how was your trip? (flamingo) Hi shad (ingo) Hi Shad (Tina) hi shad (anne) we have all been saying what a great help the group has been to each shadrak (shadrak) exhausting. Got away late and had to go thru rush hour in downtoen LA (Liz) I am going to go now. Have an early day tomorrow.. (anne) oh no (anne) nite liz (Liz) ingo & anne, let me know when you want to meet (anne) we will set a time soon (shadrak) hi and bye Liz (flamingo) seeya liz (ingo) nit liz (ingo) nite *** Liz (~locuse@customs38.ipass.net) has left #societal (anne) shadrak, what classes did you think about or sign up for next term? * ck feels for shad, but isn't LA always in rush hour? (anne) brb (shadrak) nothing yet. Have to check my email for catalog. My sign up for 821 just to pester Flamingo! (ck) Tina, while looking for FULL PLATE, I came across this..... http://www.sma lltime.com/notvictims/ (Tina) thanks ck (flamingo) Shad... oh no... hehehe (shadrak) Jeez, 23 messages in Inbox! (ck) shad, the university hasn't sent the schedule yet (shadrak) ok (shadrak) so what did you decide tonite. No more tables, right? (anne) heehee shad (e-less) couldn't we do something with javascript in tables? (ck) http://www.vu.org/register.html (ck) NO MORE TABLES! (anne) oh but is fun to use them when you try to design and display graphics in them i bet (anne) just not side border tables (anne) with text (ck) oh, ok (anne) ck, you gotta figure out a way to link sal's first aid article to you health page too -) [anne] PING (e-less) i've got to go now - thanks to all of you for helping and being patient with me - I really have learned lots from all of you (ck) later e-less (anne) e-less, that is how we all learn by trying stuff (shadrak) nite Ann (flamingo) Anne, Sal said that she is out again... while you were off line (anne) nite (ingo) see yea (anne) oh dear (flamingo) seeya e-less (ck) anne, first I gotta figure out what to put on my health page *** e-less has quit IRC (EOF From client) (anne) she is gonna finish thru the class tho isn't she (anne) i thought she just meant not go on next term like we talked about it (ck) I think that is true anne (Tina) anne, it didn't sound like it (Tina) it soundled like she was gone from now on (anne) you mite be right tina (flamingo) I think that she is... but doesn't want to go on (ck) Shad, where do you think the term 'full plate' came from? (anne) ck, talk to her about health then (flamingo) I'll send you the log and see what you think (anne) k will look (anne) but think i did see her leave (ck) Anyone got any ideas of what I can do with the health page beside publish links? (ck) I think she is just not really interested, which is ok. (anne) i think it is good when you use links to describe parts that you think are good for what ck, (ck) Well take flamingo's pages for example, they are more than just links (anne) right (flamingo) Chris go and read about all of the links and write an abstract about each (anne) but you need experience with the topic or have knowledge to really write about something (ingo) did you consider 'health and wellness' on the workplace, chris * anne is ready for another mental health day, lol *** chris2 (~emeraldCi@ts3-193.pacific.ne t) has joined #societal (chris2) OUCH! (anne) there mite already be a place that has abstracts of the sites i wonder *** ck has quit IRC (Connection reset by peer) (chris2) I missed all that cause I was booted -) [chris2] PING (Tina) well guys talk toy ou l;ater, it's 11 here *** anne sets mode: +o chris2 (chris2) later Tina (anne) nite tina (flamingo) seeya tina *** Tina (tatyana@stjhts15c02.nbnet.nb.ca ) has left #societal (anne) shad, we need to set a nite to meet after we get the next lesson (chris2) From the time I commented on Value Added I was gone-zoed (anne) everyone seems pretty flexible about when they can meet (anne) flamingo) Chris go and read about all of the links and write an abstract about each (anne) that was her suggestion (chris2) oh thanks (anne) (anne) there mite already be a place that has abstracts of the sites i wonder (chris2) Yes there are lots of medical pages with links and abstracts (anne) and here comes ingo's (ingo) did you consider 'health and wellness' on the workplace, chris (anne) (ingo) did you consider 'health and wellness' on the workplace, chris (anne) we have four weeks to figure it all out (chris2) oh, looks like I missed a lot, thanks anne, for re-displaying it for me (anne) welcome (anne) and i will post the log again too (chris2) I hadn't thought about the workplace (anne) you will come up with something when you get going on it again (flamingo) Good night everyone.... It has been great!!! (chris2) nite flamingo (ingo) see yea flam (anne) if anyone finds something i missed posting on 825.html links please email me with it too (chris2) Shad, did you see my questin about full plate? *** flamingo has quit IRC (Leaving) (anne) nite flamingo (shadrak) no (chris2) do you know where the phrase came from? someone commented on how it is being used a lot, and we wondered where it came from. (shadrak) dunno (chris2) well I had better go see the hubby before he dis-owns me for neglect (chris2) have a nice night everyone (shadrak) nite ck (ingo) nit chris *** chris2 has quit IRC (EOF From client) (anne) woops missed saying nite again (ingo) those guys are too fast tonight, right (anne) shadrak, it looks like you will finally get some java challenges for the next outline (anne) it seems like everyone except for sal wants to continue with our page after class is done (anne) what do you think? (anne) hmmm , must be off catching up with email (ingo) Anne, is she quitting immediately or afte the next four weeks (ingo) didn't quite catch that (shadrak) I have mixed reactions. I think it's a good idea from a group perspective, but a bad idea for me cause I don't feel like doing the govt thing alone. (anne) i will find out tonight at buffnet if she comes back (anne) tina and chris mite be right, that she doesn't want to work on the health page anymore (anne) oh shad, i know what you mean by that (ingo) Shad, did e-less get in touch with you about canadian government (ingo) info (shadrak) I'm still going over email. (anne) we still have so much more to add about education and i am interested in it (anne) anyway, i am for whatever way we can still keep trying and learning stuff (ingo) we talked about it a week or two ago, right anne (anne) it doesn't really matter what we do (anne) yes, except e-less never sent me the rest of the log where you talked more about it or i would have posted it (ingo) anne, I am talking about e-less re government (anne) i know (shadrak) Which makes me curious...why are we so concerned about the "final report" in four weeks? (anne) i only wrote what ghatten said irwin (anne) she just wants official notificati on that we are open for business (anne) our group is the one who has kept in the best touch apparently (anne) others did not send, except for first lesson, that it was done (shadrak) I don't expect to be open for business in four weeks on government. (anne) and it does not need to be a report shad (anne) that is what we all feel (shadrak) Just got long Email from Fredrik. Will forward it. (ingo) guess everybody wants to finish it let's set any time-line for our own sake (anne) but they won't know we are not done (anne) we have more content than a lot of groups do already (anne) oh thanks shad, looking forward to it (shadrak) How can you get content, with all the stupid challenges? (anne) right (anne) that is why they want feedback on the class and hope they take our advice about it (ingo) but those 'challenges' are more or less over now (anne) nope, more come this lesson ingo (shadrak) I think the biggest problem is that eight weeks is insufficient time. (ingo) let's see what it is - I guess we've tried to put 150% in each time (anne) right and that is what we will copy and paste in our evaluation to them (anne) and since most of the challenge was stuff new to me, i still have not done all the reading i should do to do them (anne) but learned from all of your examples (anne) and info sent, so that was great (anne) got interesting email from misty aka abunny (anne) about their study group (ingo) Have some more stuff to do for tomorrow, so I'll see you guys later (anne) nite ingo (anne) thanks (shadrak) you're welcome (ingo) nite you two *** ingo (a066@dialup2.lambton.on.ca) has left #societal (anne) let me know what you think when you have mulled it over (anne) flamingo thinks that 828 class mite be more to promote VU, and tina thinks you have to be selected for it (anne) i will have to re-read it (anne) and sal for sure wants to get back to infosources (shadrak) If we want to continue Societal and use it for 828, I think we need additional people, especially with sal leaving. (anne) shad, it does not look like 828 will be a project that we can use societal for (anne) i think it sounds like something different (shadrak) I don't think I have the energy for a new one:) (anne) we just figured could use the knowledge or info anyway we wanted to do and do as we please if we do not care for what is in store (anne) i think we all agree on that (anne) would like to finish what we started with societal or information sources (shadrak) Was there any discussion of what to do with the working page? (anne) nope, think we just keep it (anne) what did you have in mind (anne) especially cause that met what we needed for the first lesson shadrak (anne) and has our bios and "mission" statement on it (shadrak) I think we have two "introducto ry pages" and that doesn't make sense to me. (anne) well, maybe we just need to name it differently then (anne) make a different title for it (shadrak) I think most of the stuff on it really belongs on the main page; it's what, why, how , and who. (anne) or maybe replace the different areas with just the summary of each area by a different filename, then so that links are from main page (anne) maybe shorten up the paragraph for the main page (shadrak) I would buy that. But one link to a "working page" doesn't make sense. (anne) but should not that still be a link to the who why what (anne) maybe call it a different name than working page (anne) tina would make a new button when we figure out what we want it to contain (shadrak) I think main page should have separate links to who page, and what, how why. I.E., break up working page. (anne) k that is find (shadrak) also fine? (anne) fine yes (anne) once we get the lesson, we can set a meeting and bring it up * anne has grown fond of the working page tho (shadrak) k (shadrak) You're accustomed to its charms! (anne) ;) (shadrak) Well I gotta go now. (anne) rememember the first was in columns chris taught us about (anne) me to shad (anne) nite (anne) glad you are back (shadrak) nite Session Close: Mon Mar 10 22:23:15 1997Back to log list
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