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<karen> Any topics yet?
<Troi-> no reason why all the members can't be ops.. :)
<JerseyL> Karen, if you haven't looked lately I messed up the home page.
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<Sweetcake> Hello.. Linda, Karen & Pattie
<Troi-> Hi Carol!
<karen> good for you! :-)
<JerseyL> Carol, maybe you can fix it if Jeff doesn't
<karen> In mistakes there is learning
<Sweetcake> ooohhh  what did you do?
<JerseyL> True
<JerseyL> It's this ftp thing, I had too many index files.
<Sweetcake> sure I can probably fix it!
<Troi-> her JPG vs. GIF is now our home page.. :)
<JerseyL> :(
<Troi-> I am sure someone has a copy of the page Linda.. don't fret
<Sweetcake> hold one one sec..let me look at the page..I can always send up the last index file I have here from today..hold on..I'll go fix it :-)
<JerseyL> Thanks
<Troi-> We all make little booboos every once in a while
<JerseyL> I have that WS_FTP program and this is the first time I got it to work!!
<Sweetcake> do you still have the copy of your hw..so I don't overwrite it?
<Troi-> I remember the first time I got on a PC (when I was in the Navy) My bosses said to go ahead and try all the commands.. well, I did.. I tried format and wiped out the hard drive...LOL taught them to back up their work.. LOL
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<JerseyL> hW??  I think so
<Troi-> Hi Lexa!
<JerseyL> hi Lexa
<karen> hi lexa
<Lexa> hi 
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<JerseyL> ?me Be right back
JerseyL be right back
<Sweetcake> the page which is now are main page? I can overwrite it with a copy of our page that I saved today buit wanted to make sure you still had your copy..don't want to delete all your hard work!
<Sweetcake> Linda do you have a copy of the page before I overwrite it on geocities?
<JerseyL> yes
<Sweetcake> ok..I will reupload the main page do not fret it will be fixed in a couple of minutes..I'll be right back!
<JerseyL> Thanks
<Troi-> Lexa.. how are you coming on the graphics?
<Troi-> Counselor is here.. :)
<Lexa> i'll finish tomorrow with my part of assigment
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<Sweetcake> ok I uploaded the file with ftp..it will take about 5 minutes or 10 minutes to show up and all will be fixed. Just remember if after 10 minutes you still see the boo boo page, use the reload button..
<Troi-> cool!
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<Counselor> Greets!
<Troi-> Hi Ya Jeff!!
<Sweetcake> Hello Jeff..did you get my reply about the tables?
<Lexa> hi Jeff
<JerseyL> Hi Jeff--Did you get my uh oh message.  Carol just fixed my page.
<JerseyL> Whoops--I mean our page.
<Counselor> Yeah, I got the message, cut haven't had time to read it in detail.
<Troi-> :)
<Counselor> Yeah, I got your message too Linda..that's why I was a little late...I was uploading the new page.
<JerseyL> I was saying that I have too many index files!
<Counselor> Yeah, that gets to be a problem..
<Troi-> hey Counselor.. I have been trying to make my pages user friendly using the guidelines from your pages (which are great resources by the way) but what about background images for the page. .. anything special I should do?
<JerseyL> I was using Hot Dog and saw the alt tags.
<Counselor> Background images have no effect because they are not displayed in text browsers.
<Troi-> ahhhh.. ok.. that helps.. :)
<Sweetcake> you need to make a seperate directory called webocrats or 825 & only keep the files pertaining to that site in that directory..keep it seperate from personal page stuff..
<JerseyL> Good idea
<Counselor> Thanks for thinking of that though.  :)
<Troi-> well, I want to make my pages accessible as possible.. and you have some great ideas.. :)
<Counselor> As I've been seeing more tables I've ben finding out that they present more of a problem thn I thought they might.
<JerseyL> Is that part of our next lesson?
<Troi-> Yeah.. thats what I got from the Bobby Page.. really good resource, I might add.
<Counselor> Yeah, isn't bobby great.
<Troi-> yeah.. pinpoints all the problems with my page.. and gives suggestions.. I like that
<JerseyL> What's a bobby page?
<Sweetcake> do you have any trouble with the single column table on our page the one uding only the td tags? I could make a 3 column one on the other side.. or we could just leave it the way it is.
<karen> our page is back!!! Yay
<Sweetcake> yeah!!!
<Troi-> The bobby page is a web page that you can check your own pages out with for accessibity.
<JerseyL> Thanks
<Counselor> I don't have trouble with single column tables, of course, it's the multiple column tables that are more difficult...like the gif/jpg page.
<Troi-> The bobby page made a suggestions, that if I just can't live without my tables, it might be a good idea to offer a text only page..
<Counselor> That's one suggestion...I'm goingto have to think of other ones too.
<Troi-> meaning.. keep you own page up, but add a line to a text only version of the same page
<Troi-> add a link , I meant..
<Sweetcake> So to make the page more accessible we should only use single column tables on the page? Did you get my samples of tables in your email? were the multiple column table examples hard to read?
<Counselor> Sweetcake, that's what I hadn't had a chance to view yet.  I read your text but didn't have a chance to look at the tables.
<Sweetcake> Maybe until we can come up with a netter design that we should leave the current design the way it is ..if it is readible by you..
<Sweetcake> I did different examples of td and th .... the td stands for table data and the th can either be a row heading or a column heading..
<JerseyL> I looked in the Dr. Quad's tutorial on our page and found that TH can be substituted for TD because they act the same.
<Counselor> Well, I think my suggestion of a 3 column table for our links would be ok, I'm not sure.
<Troi-> ok..I have a question.. What exactly is graphical Text? I am not sure if it is just an graphic image of text.. or do they mean  something different
<Sweetcake> the only thing that TH does is make the typeface in it bolder
<Sweetcake> don't know..was also reading about fontface what is that exactly? Anyone know?
<Counselor> I think it's text that is "painted" on the page, like the numbers in most counters.
<Troi-> you should have seen what I told Jersey I thought Graphical Text might be..LOL
<Counselor> It's *not* readable by any text browser...it would take optical character recognition to read it.
<Troi-> hmmm
<JerseyL> Where is graphical text on our assignments?
<Troi-> It is in the list of 12 under graphics
<Sweetcake> but if it is graphical text isn't it a gif or jpg file? then one could use the alt tag to enter in what the text says?
<Counselor> Exactly, Sweetcake!
<Sweetcake> isn't our web-o-crats on our page graphical text?
<Counselor> Just like withour web-o-crats logo.
<Troi-> ok.. then I have done that.. LOL ... I think I was making it harder on myself than it was
<JerseyL> That's what I thought.
<Sweetcake> I don't know how much longer I can take this saxaphone playing!
<Sweetcake> Daughter is practicing..
<Counselor> Heh, who's doing that?
<Sweetcake> 1812 overture
<Troi-> here is what I told Jersey  <Troi-> I was thinking (this is funny) that graphical text was going to be like all the letters written in balloons.. or banana's or something silly like that.. LOL
<Counselor> Well, my brother was/is a drummer...
<Counselor> He was *not* good in junior high...bue he was LOUD!
<Sweetcake> guess it could be that. another good example of graphical text..so are you going to create some text in balloons?
<Sweetcake> my daughter is also in jr. high! she has been playing for over an hour!
<Troi-> LOL.. I don't think I have the time to do that.. but I will come up with something nice.. :)
<Counselor> Well, it could be worse...  :)
<Counselor> Hope she's not playing the cannons.
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<Sweetcake> he he he..
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<JerseyL> hi who
<Lexa> hi Steve
<Counselor> Who is here?
<SteveC> lots of people
<karen> Me!
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<Sweetcake> sweetcake
<Sweetcake> linda
<Sweetcake> karen
<Sweetcake> sasha
<Troi_> back.. My server disconnected..:(
<SteveC> hehehe
<karen> oh wait, who's on first (I always get mixed up like that)
<Sweetcake> carol
<Sweetcake> pattie
<Sweetcake> steve
<SteveC> here
<Sweetcake> pattie is here twice!
<Counselor> Ok, I'm going to try something...
<Troi_> dag nab it.. I have a ghost now..
<SteveC> keep your hands to yourself
<Troi_> LOL
<Sweetcake> the ghost will go away soon.
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<Sweetcake> what's plus p?
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<Sweetcake> ghost is gone!
<Counselor> I just made the channel private
<Troi_> hey someone. . you want to op me and SteveC please.. ?  :)
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<Sweetcake> what if someone wants to come in and they are late?
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<Troi_> thanks Lexa.. :)
<Troi_> yeah.. we want them to be able to come in.. 
<Counselor> I think they can come in as long as they know the exact channel name
<Counselor> Someone coudl test this hypothesis.
<Troi_> ok.. ok.. I will
<Troi_> :) see ya in a minute I hope
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<Sweetcake> http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Plains/9342/hwwk3.htm  here is the URL to link your homework to when ready. remember you can u/l your hw page to our site..just make sure to name it  something unique and then link it to http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Plains/9342/hwwk3.htm 
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<Sweetcake> If everyone does not like the way I have this set up just let me know as I am open for ideas..
<Troi_> yup.. as long as you know the name of the channel... 
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<Troi_> but it doesnt show up on the channels list
Troi_ says thanks again Lexa.. :)
<SteveC> sweetie: should we set up a naming convention to avoid problems?
<Counselor> That's the whole point...we won't be bother by anyone who doesn't know about us.
<Counselor> Where was that page on our main page, Carol?
<Sweetcake> I don't know.. I labeled my homework page cashw3.htm [ cas for my initials and hw3 for homework week 3]
<JerseyL> me/ be right back
<Troi_> I labeled mine  825-3
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<Troi_> I guess I should name it pd825-3.htm
<Sweetcake> The link to it is on the right side table right after the resource pages and before the logs. the heading is demonstration pages and the first thing i labled it demonstration pages for week 3.
<SteveC> yes...initials would be good to avoid dupes
<Counselor> Yeah, I think initials and a lesson number sounds like a good idea.
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<Counselor> Steve, weren't you going to compile the bios onto a page?
<Sweetcake> Heading [Demonstration Pages] Under this it says Week 3 assignments and this links to the index of all the week 3 assignments ... jeff
<Troi-> yeah.. what about those bios anyway.. I did the survey and sent it to Counselor.. but are they going on a link from the main page?
<Counselor> Ok, sweetcake
<SteveC> i will if i get them
<Counselor> I'll have to check the logs, but I thought Steve was going to compile them onto a page.
<SteveC> but that was for the work book
<Troi-> oh.. I was told to send them to you Jeff.. :)
<Troi-> I can resend it to steve.. if you like?
<Counselor> That's ok, Troi...what workbook?
<SteveC> jeff, if you forward them to me...or load them to a blank page on the work site
<SteveC> work book just a choice of words...all i meant was
<Counselor> I'll just forward them to you, Steve...so far, I have 5 of them.
<SteveC> i envisioned 1 page with all bio info
<Counselor> Yeah, that's what I had in mind, too.
<Troi-> sounds good to me..
<SteveC> but also each of us would have our own "front door" with the Q&A and machine bio
<SteveC> in a standard 'zine type format...kabish?
<Sweetcake> I forgot who was volunteered to make the page so I have been forwarding the answered surveys to you jeff.
<Counselor> Well, I'm not so good with layout...I'll trust you to come up with something and we can comment on it after you get it done.
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<SteveC> k
<Counselor> That's ok....I can forward them to steve...I just watned to make sure he was stil wiling to do ti.
<Troi-> Good title for a web page Steve.. :)
<JerseyL> I guess I should just send mine directly to Steve?
<Sweetcake> Steve.. I have copies of everyone who responded so far.. I will send them to you..
<SteveC> k
<SteveC> k-2
<Counselor> Are you going to Sweetcake, or shall I...no need to flood his mailbox.
<SteveC> my other sugg. was a common format for top level pages...so all look like they are from an organized group
<Troi-> what else do we have to discuss tonight?
<SteveC> (we can fool'em)
<Sweetcake> want me to forward them right now? I saved them into a seperate mail folder..
<Counselor> How's that coming, Steve?
<Troi-> Sounds good Steve.. will make it look more professional.. :)
<SteveC> k...put some kind of Code word in the subject please
<SteveC> so i'll recognize them
<Counselor> Sure, go ahead..
<Sweetcake> web o crats bios?
<Lexa> oh......sweet dreams......i'll go back to bed now, i'm too tired, i'll finish my part of assigments tomorrow
<JerseyL> bye
<Troi-> Nighty Nite Lexa..
<Sweetcake> morning lexa..go get some sleep.
<SteveC> i am working on the idea off-line in Word and will forward it soon
<Counselor> Ah, ok...thanks 
<Troi-> Sweet Dreams
<SteveC> bye?
<SteveC> are made of these
<Troi-> :)
<Lexa> thanks.....bye.......zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
<JerseyL> If we are meeting Friday, Valentine's Day, I don't think I can come.
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<Troi-> I may be on for a while.. but not after 8:00pm PST..
<Sweetcake> that's understandible.. will post the logs for those who can't come.
<SteveC> thought i saw Sat date?
<karen> Me, neither, but I'll be gone the whole weekend.
<SteveC> did i miss something...what is the schedule?
<Counselor> Did you get my mail, Karen.
<Sweetcake> no everything is tues & fri and sunday is the whole class meeting.
<SteveC> Fri at 6...got it
<SteveC> duh
<Troi-> maybe we should have a meeting on Thur. this week instead of Fri. then?
<karen> Yes Jeff - I'm still thinking about how I can contribute before the weekend.
<Counselor> Y'all decide..I can do either.
<karen> I can make Thurs.
<JerseyL> I can make Thursday.
<Sweetcake> no problem here for either day.. thurs or fri is ok by me. my husband works 3-11 pm. est
<Troi-> I can make Thur  too..
<Counselor> Sweetcake?
<Sweetcake> thurs is fine
<Sweetcake> i'll change the page tomorrow to reflect the change
<Counselor> Ok, let's do it thursday instead of friday...can you update your page sc?
<Counselor> BTW, I was wondering if all the times shoud be in the same time zone?
<Troi-> that might be a good idea.. for a point of reference.. 
<Counselor> Has it been confusing to anyone?
<JerseyL> No, I think having a schedule has worked well.
<Sweetcake> what time zone should I use?
<Counselor> I don't care which time zone we use, PST or EST, or even CST...just make them all the same.
<Sweetcake> or maybe post like 6pm PST 9pm EST?
<karen> I messed up once - went to a meeting at 3 p.m. PST :(
<SteveC> whats the roster look like now?
<karen> The dual method is also good.
<Troi-> well, it would stop me from having to think.. hmm if it's 8:00 pst then thats ok .. my time.. If its 8:00 est.. then thats 6:00 my time.. 
<Counselor> Yeah, do it that way sc.
<Troi-> what about CST?
<Counselor> It would be difficult to hit *all* the time zones...I think PST and EST should be enough to give everyone the right idea.
<Troi-> LOL you are right. I was just being funny..
<JerseyL> I have a question about jpeg vs. gif
<Counselor> I think the important thing is to have them consistant.
<Counselor> Ask away..
<JerseyL> Is GIF the only image format that can be animated?
<Sweetcake> ok.. I don't have 5 returned surveys.. here is who I have mine, Robert G., and Karen's. If you have these 3 plus others you should forward. Just let me know if I have one that you don't have jeff.
<Counselor> Well, as far as I know, jpg cannot, I'm not sure about png.
<Troi-> hmm good question.. I think PNG's can be animated too
<JerseyL> I thought I read that PNGs couldn't be, but they are supposed to replace GIFs.
<Troi-> I did see a page today that has PNG animated.. but you have to have download some software to see them
<Counselor> Ok, sweetcake, I'll farward what I have.
<Sweetcake> do you have a copy of all 3 that I mentioned?
<Counselor> Yeah.
<Counselor> Well, I'll look..
<SteveC> there is a free time converter available
<Counselor> I have too many of those already..
<Troi-> Jersey.. On the web page.. under the Assignment Link.. then the graphics link.. I think that is where I saw the page on Animated PNG's
<JerseyL> I'll check
<Sweetcake> under resources then graphics maybe?
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<Sweetcake> What's for dinner?
<JerseyL> What should I do about the demonstration part of the page?
<Counselor> I have yours, Sweetcake, mine, RobG, Steve and Pattie
<Counselor> Not Karn
<Counselor> Karen
<Sweetcake> I guess you just make a basic page describing everything and place a link to that particular page for those interested in viewing an animated png.
<Counselor> I can't type.
<Troi-> how bout.. take the same image and make two.. one a jpg.. one a gif.. then describe the difference.. in file size.. output color.. etc.
<Sweetcake> Jeff, then you have everyone who responded so far.
<JerseyL> Karen--What kind of image would you suggest?
<karen> For the comparison?
<JerseyL> yes
<Counselor> Ok, I'll forward these...
<karen> You definitely need some high resolution, a pic with lots of stuff
<karen> Also a few bright, saturated colors.
<Troi-> a photograhic image maybe?
<Counselor> If someone sends me an image they want to use I can convert them.
<Sweetcake> I bet she could find some wild colors at that bad site I found! :-)
<karen> That may be best - don't know about disk space, though.
<JerseyL> Anybody have a good image to send to Jeff?
<JerseyL> Some of the links actually have some good demonstrations.
<Troi-> there are some good image converters/viewers at the Tucows Site.
<Counselor> I can also scan images from photos.
<Troi-> I have a handheld scanner also.
<karen> I'll have to look. I just got PhotoDeluxe from Adobe, but it's at work.
<Counselor> I have a flatbed color scanner.
<Troi-> cool
<JerseyL> We have a new scanner at school, but I tried to use it today and couldn't figure it out.
<Troi-> I have lots of pic.. but they are all of ppl
<karen> People are probably good - anyone in bright colors?
<Counselor> I scanned all the images on my pages myself.  :)
<Sweetcake> I also have a color flatbed scanner. Santa left it for me!
<JerseyL> I'll see if I can come up with something before Thursday.
<Troi-> I just scanned in 4 of me that I had taken at a professional studio a few weeks agop
<Troi-> Cool Jeff.. you did a great job.. :)
<karen> aren't prof photos copyrighted for x years?
<Counselor> Troi, put them up somewhere.
<karen> We had that problem with our wedding photos
<Troi-> yeah.. I am planning on putting one up on my Home Page.. :)
<karen> Like they'll know...
<Counselor> Yeah, like they'll know...
<Troi-> I paid for the pics.. they are mine to do with what I please.. :) they arent for monetary gain.. so I see no problem with using mine on my page.. :)
<Counselor> I agree with you, Troi.
<karen> Actually we couldn't have copies made (10 years ago, in Germany)
<Troi-> I could see if they were used to advertise a business, but they arent..
<karen> After 7 years they were ours.
<karen> Weird, huh?
<Counselor> That's weird.
<Troi-> yea... that is weird
<Troi-> LOL.. Like JC Penney's Portrait studio is going to hunt down my page.. and make sure I take my picture off.. .. ROFL
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<karen> PPP: Penney's Portrait Police LOL
<Troi-> HAHAHAHAH
<karen> Come to think of it, I just saw some prof photos on the web today, from a private party.
<Counselor> So, Linda did your question get answered satisfactorily?
<JerseyL> I got an idea.  I'll see if I can get it together soon.
<Counselor> Does anyone else have any questions?
<Counselor> About our class project, that is.
<Troi-> well, not at the moment... but I will be thinking of more.. :)
<JerseyL> I've been writing out what I want on my page and figure I will get something up and worry about graphics, buttons, and banners, etc. later.
<Counselor> Is everybody comfortable with our solution to email and the guestbook?
<karen> yep
<Troi-> yes.. I am.. looks good.
<JerseyL> yes
<Counselor> Does anyone have any suggestions to make to other groups...how about some input on sound?
<SteveC> brb...but with my mouth full
<karen> to other groups?
<Troi-> If I knew about sound, I would make some input.. but that is something I want to learn too sometime. :)
<Counselor> Other "sub" groups within our group...like you could make suggestions to our sound group or to the graphics group, etc.
<Sweetcake> Is everyone comfortable with the temporary or basic pages that I set up for us at geocities?
<JerseyL> looks fine
<Troi-> I am.
<karen> I'd really like to have an easy way to turn off the sound on the home page. Once is nice, but too much...
<Counselor> Good job, Carol.
<Troi-> Things are shaping up really nice.. You guys have done a great job with getting the home pages set up
<JerseyL> I have a student that has something different (sound wise) on his page.  Check out www.planet.net/ulf  Go down to the Mike Lange files, if you get a chance.
<Sweetcake> thanks.. Bev did a good job creating them. I only edited them.
<SteveC> i have a Q
<Counselor> Go steve.
<SteveC> is there a way to have sound that carries through all pages of a site
<SteveC> so i doesn't stop and reload on page changes?
<Counselor> I'm not aware of any.  I think the browser might have to support that.  Perhaps java could do something like that.
<karen> Doesn't RealAudio do that? Like for radios and stuff
<Counselor> Well, if you launched your music player, I guess it wuold keep playing as long as you didn't turn it off.
<SteveC> i had two poss sols...
<karen> JerseyL, I couldn't find Mike Lange. Help!?
<Sweetcake> Yeah, like some sort of plugin where a box pops up or something?
<Troi-> well all.. I gotta get going. But I will see you all on Thurs. Night then.. Bye for now!
<SteveC> one is open another window just for sound..in background
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<Counselor> Ok, bye troi.
<Sweetcake> bye pattie
<SteveC> other is use frames and one frame..doesn't change..for sound
<Sweetcake> good ideas!
<Counselor> Yeah, those might work, Steve.
<Counselor> I suppose one frame could just be the control panel.
<Counselor> Maybe we should try that..you got me curous now.
<Counselor> That might actually be a good use of frames.
<SteveC> what is the min size of a frame?
<JerseyL> Karen hang on a sec.
<karen> Never mind, JerseyL, it was just too large for me to see it :)
<Sweetcake> Frames are in our next lesson I believe. That would make a good thing to try out.
<karen> I assume the links are below the graphic.
<Counselor> I think I read somewhere about a 1x1 frame.
<JerseyL> yes they are--wav files of Mike Lange
<Counselor> In fact, I think there are hidden frames.
<SteveC> be interesting...could you put a sound in a 1x1?
<SteveC> continuous sound without being noticed
<Counselor> I suppose..just no control panel.
<SteveC> make it borderless
<SteveC> all theoretical...i would prefer with on/off switch
<Counselor> Yeah, that's why I suggested at least have the control paen..even the small one.
<Counselor> Sweetcake, do you think of anything else we need to cover?
<SteveC> Active roster????
<Sweetcake> not really offhand. Maybe email everyone with the revision in the chat schedule for those that do not check the page.
<JerseyL> I have Another FTP question.
<Counselor> Go ahead.
<SteveC> Q:
<Sweetcake> Has anyone heard from the Robert H. ? 
<Counselor> Nope...what should we do about him?
<JerseyL> I sent up my JPEG vs GIF file.  I also sent up the gifs and jpegs.  Two of the files have different names with ~.  Do I need to rename?
<karen> assume he is lost in the ether
<Sweetcake> He has never been to chat and has only writtin one or 2 messages in almost 4 weeks. I don't think he ever even answered about doing the homework assignment. Everyone else seems active.
<JerseyL> Is Geetha still involved?
<Counselor> How about fif I send Rob H a message saying that if I don't hear from him we'll drop himfrom the list?
<karen> ok
<JerseyL> ok
<Sweetcake> you can go to the geocities file think to check on the files. they probably are just named wrong. thee file names have to be exactly what you have coded on your page. If you for example coded on your page dog.gif  and you uploaded Dog.gif the file will not be shown.
<JerseyL> On my page a file is something like jpegvsgif.gif.  When I go to send it up, it says it has too many characters.
<Counselor> Yeah, JerseyL, there's a utilities page where you can check the directory.
<Sweetcake> Who is she working on image maps yet? I forgot. Has he heard from her in private email?
<SteveC> probably best to limit names to 8-char
<JerseyL> It worked on my other server.
<JerseyL> I'm going to go and try to fix this now.  I'll try not to mess anything up.  Good night.
<Counselor> Maybe it's just slow downloading, JerseyL
<Sweetcake> you can use the geocities utility thing to rename the files.
<Counselor> Goodnight JerseyL
<SteveC> Q:
<Counselor> Steve?
<JerseyL> I'll let you know if it doesn't work.
<Sweetcake> just make sure that what ever you name them that it is also the same name you use on your page or you will have to edit the page also.
<SteveC> did we decide upon table format
<Sweetcake> goodnight Linda.
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<SteveC> and remember inits in names to avoid dupes
<SteveC> too late
<karen> Goodnight all!
<Counselor> Steve, what were your proposals?
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<Sweetcake> It's the Disk Space usage utility on geocities.
<Sweetcake> OOPs she left already!
<SteveC> my only sugg was not to use blah-d-blah Home Page
<SteveC> then you sug'd 3-col table
<SteveC> wonder about outcome
<SteveC> i will have to review logs later tonite
<Sweetcake> I could shrink the width of the table on the other side and make a 3 column table on the left side and have them meet in the middle?
<Counselor> All I can say is try it.  It works best when all is on one row, but that's
<Counselor> not always the way it works out.
<Sweetcake> but Jeff also said that table are hard to read for him if they are multiple. he has no trouble with a single column.
<SteveC> nice to know
<SteveC> i have to be going ... kid stuff ... i will read log and watch my email
<Sweetcake> what about instead of Steves Homepage We put [ Homepage: "Who's Home"]
<Counselor> Ok, Steve..I'll forward those bios.
<SteveC> and try to finish my write-up
<SteveC> Sweets...ok by me
<Counselor> Seeya
<SteveC> caeiou
<Sweetcake> and leave the format the way it is. [PROJECT: "Smallest Angels" or something like that?
<Sweetcake> ok I guess we can call it a night. I will zip up the log and add it to the page. I already edited and sent up the revised chat schedule.
<SteveC> try it 
<Counselor> Actually, Seetcake, I think either would be fine...1 column or 3.
<SteveC> g'nite
<Sweetcake> which should I try?
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<Sweetcake> Jeff which should I try first?
<SteveC> guess i can't kick myself ... got auto reconnect...gotta kick/ban...lol
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<Counselor> Oops, she left too soon.
<Sweetcake> that was a quick entrance and a quick exit
<SteveC> g'nite agin
<Counselor> Well, see ya Steve...SC, why don't you go ahead and try the one you'd prefer visually.
<Sweetcake> ok.
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<Sweetcake> ok..  not sure which that is.. I think single column  don't know if I want the whole thing 3 on one side and 1 on the other.
<Counselor> Shall we call it a night?
<Sweetcake> yes! have a good one.
<Sweetcake> bye
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