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<SmartAleck> HI!
<SmartAleck> Hi!
<Sweetcake> Hello Kwhat!
<Kwahts> Sweetcake!
<Sweetcake> Kwhats are you there? OP me!
<Kwahts> Yummy, yummy!
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<Sweetcake> Kwhats what have you been working on for this assignmnet? I have been working on the alignment of graphics with and without tables.
<Kwahts> Sorry, the PIRCH function isn't working, for some reason
<Kwahts> I just got outta my sickbed today
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<Kwahts> I missed the entire lesson
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<Sweetcake> There is still time to work on something, it is not dues until next Sunday!
<Sweetcake> Glad to hear you're feeling better.
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<Kwahts> Oh!  What do I need to do to move the group along?
<SmartAleck> i'm back!
<Kwahts> ReHi, sa.
<SmartAleck> Hi!
<Sweetcake> I snet email to everyone letting everyone know who volunteered for what and where we still need a little help. Did you get the email?
<Kwahts> Probly.
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<Sweetcake> hello again 
<Kwahts> I'll volunteer for whatever is open
<SmartAleck> Hi!
<SmartAleck> I'm bored.
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<Sweetcake> Don't remember off the top of my head, maybe when others get here you can see who needs some help.
<SmartAleck> I bored.
Kwahts nods.
SmartAleck plays sci-fi sound
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<SmartAleck> Opps!
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<SmartAleck> I didn't mean to do that twice.
<SmartAleck> Hi!
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<Kwahts> I've done that!
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<Sweetcake> Been busy doing a little research for a friend of my husbans who he works with. The person is starting a web page design & hosting service and he wants me to help him get started and help design a few pages for a couple of businesses he has lined up.
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<Kwahts> WOW!  I wish I had that kind of breaks!
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<Kwahts> 4,1447_8_9_11.13*47.8*999991113*4.78*9.11_13_4_1.
<Kwahts> 4,1447.8*911.13*48 CRASH! 13*9.11`13*4.1.
<Kwahts> 4,1447:78:8888 CRASH! 889:911:1.
<Kwahts> 4,1447`8*9.11`13*4.8 (Sounds of glass breaking)! 13*911.13*41.
<Kwahts> 4,14478911`13*4.7`8*9.999911.13*47.8*9111341.
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<Sweetcake> How do you d/l a wav file in Pirch that someone else plays that you do not have?
SmartAleck my car
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<Kwahts> Moi? Dunno... Smart may know
jrgatz Laughs
<SmartAleck> Nope.
<SmartAleck> Call me SA
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<Sweetcake> Smart how do I d/l the sounds you are playing with pirch?
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<SmartAleck> I have no idea.
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<SmartAleck> I'm bored.
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<SmartAleck> Hello!
<jrgatz> How come no one uses this chat site???
<jrgatz> Doesn't anyone know about this?
<SmartAleck> A lot of people do, but they don't come in untill later.
<Sweetcake> Small server and not connected to other servers that is why it is so quiet here.
<SmartAleck> Last night there were 15 people in ONE chat room.
<jrgatz> I've been on here 3 or 4 times and  there is not anyone here!
<Sweetcake> phone brb
<SmartAleck> I come on here a lot!
<Kwahts> Are you running them off?
<jrgatz> Can you have private chats here?
<SmartAleck> No.
<jrgatz> Are you sure?
<SmartAleck> No-1 gets on untill late.
<SmartAleck> Yes, I'm sure I'm not running them off.
<Kwahts> Not you. jr...
<jrgatz> unclick, now
<SmartAleck> Did ya'll hear me play a sci-fi sound?
<jrgatz> Kwaht!!!
<Kwahts> Say what?
<jrgatz> Did you see what i typed
<SmartAleck> Yepe.
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<SmartAleck> Opps!
<SmartAleck> Hi!@
<karen> Hi all!
<jrgatz> Did you see where I typed DOGS?
<SmartAleck> Opps!
<SmartAleck> Hi!
<SmartAleck> Yep!
<Kwahts> Hi, Karen
<jrgatz> Kwahts, did you?
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<SmartAleck> Did ya'll hear me play:
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<jrgatz> Hello !!!!!!! Kwahts
<SmartAleck> that?
<Kwahts> No...no sound
<JerseyL> hi all
<SmartAleck> Ok.
<jrgatz> Did you see where i typed dogs?
<Kwahts> Hi, JL!
<SmartAleck> yes!
<SmartAleck> Hu, ya'll!
<SmartAleck> Opps1
<SmartAleck> Hi, ya'll!
<Kwahts> Noppers...missed dogs...
<jrgatz> I was typing to you SA
<SmartAleck> I know.
<jrgatz> See smartAleck, she could not read that!
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<SmartAleck> HI!
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<Sweetcake> brb
<Counselor> Greets!
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<jrgatz> Sweetcake, can you have a private conversation here?????
<jrgatz> Do you know?
<Kwahts> Counselor!
<jrgatz> ? ? ? ? ? ?
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<Counselor> Yes?
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<Sweetcake> on phone brb
<Kwahts> Okay, kids, time to clear our room.
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<SmartAleck> I'm bored.
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<jrgatz> Karen, age!
<Counselor> kwahts, were you going to ask me something?
<Kwahts> Just saying HI!!
<JerseyL> Isn't this channel supposed to be more secure???
<Counselor> Opey, dopey...
<jrgatz> Oh!  KAREN
<jrgatz> You better answer me!
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<jrgatz> Karen is a GROUCH !
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<Counselor> Who is jrgatz?
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<jrgatz> ME !!!!!
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<jrgatz> Why do you ask me!!!
<jrgatz> COUNSELOR !!
<Counselor> Hi Karen...yes jrgatz...
<jrgatz> You want to ask me something!
<Counselor> Yes, who are you?
<jrgatz> Who are you?????
<Sweetcake> I am back, sorry about that but had a long distance phone call.
<Counselor> That's ok, Sweetcake.
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<JerseyL> Good!!!
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<Counselor> Hi Karen...  :)
<karen> Hi all - I was just trying to avoid jrgatz. He went a little too far.
<Counselor> It looks like we've had a bit of trouble on this channel/server..
<Sweetcake> Is Karen the Karen from our study group?
<karen> yup! :-)
<JerseyL> Are we supposed to be more or less likely to get strays here at zia.com??
<Sweetcake> ok... no aliasis tonight?
<Sweetcake> less likely to get strays! Just lucky tonight I guess. When I came on there was only like 10 people on the whole server!
<Counselor> Well, we *should* not expect to get strays...but sometimes it happens.  We may have to make the channel private to help prevent it.
<Counselor> Has anyone logged in here using Netscape or another browser?  I'm wondering how well it works.
<karen> Netscape chat? or the web browser? I use both.
<Counselor> Well, I understand one can connect to this channel using a web browser instead of an irc client...I was wondering how well it worked.
<Sweetcake> I have only logged on using Pirch. How is everyone coming along with their HW assignments? Kwhats has volunteered to help anyone who could use a hand since he was sick he did not volunteer for anything yet.
<karen> I did it one night. You go through the 825 room. I'll just step over there and try it right now!
<Sweetcake> I have used regular netscape and logged on at the class #825 menu and used their java bases chat thing. It takes a while to load the applet but once loaded the chat feature works ok.
<Counselor> Can you get to *this* channel through it?
<Kwahts> Hmmm.... Kinda like the one we have?
<Sweetcake> yes, when you get the applet loaded you enter in your handle and the default room is #room825, you can edit the box and type Web-O-Crats in it and hit the connect button to go there or you can just hit connect and once in 825 just type /join web-o-crats and get here. real simple.
<Counselor> Cool!  I hope using this server helps those who do not hav irc access then.
<karen> So far, so bad. I'm getting a gray box, which indicates that the server is pretty busy right now. I'll keep trying.
<Counselor> That's ok, Karen...I was just curious if it worked ok ...especially to get to this channel, since it not a registered channel with VU.
<Sweetcake> Has VU ever gotten back to you about our hosting our study group here? Isay we should just start meeting here instead anyway since we are able to. They have had plenty of time to honor our request. This way maybe Geetha can join in. At the rate they are going if we wait for official word the semester will be over!
<karen> It's apparently not working or is too busy right now.
<Counselor> Carol says it works...
<karen> It worked for me earlier last week. It's probably ok.
<Counselor> Did anyone check buffnet to make sure everyone got my note about moving the meeting?
<Sweetcake> Want me to go there and check? I can log into 2 different servers at the same time..
<Counselor> Yes, please, Carol...I cannot do that.
<Sweetcake> ok be right back
No one in your notify list is on IRC
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<Carol> Noone is logged onto buffnet and see I can log in here from the chat thing at 825 no problem!!
<Counselor> Hey, cool, Carol...this way you can talk to yourself...  :)
<Carol> he he!! OK I'm outa here, I like Pirch much better but it does work!
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<Counselor> So, how do y'all feel about continuing to use this channel?
<Counselor> Or would you rather go back to buffnet?
<Sweetcake> OK there is NO web-o-crats channel on buffnet so I guess noone is there by mistake.
<Kwahts> I like this one okay
<karen> I'm a don't care.
<Sweetcake> This channel workes just fine!
<JerseyL> I don't care.
<Sweetcake> I'll change the IRC chat schedule tomorrow if it is OK with everyone.
<Counselor> Well, it works for me, so if it enables others to join us that otherwise could not, I'm open to moving our group meetings to this channel.
<karen> yep
<Kwahts> Second the movement
<Kwahts> 1,8 8-]
<Sweetcake> How is everyones homework coming along?
<Counselor> It looks like there's no objections, Sweetcake, so go ahead and change the schedule...I, unfortnately, have not had a chance to get to the homework.
<JerseyL> Haven't had time to work on it since Friday, how's yours coming?
<Counselor> I'll post a message in email to the group letting them know of the server change.
<Sweetcake> I started a little, did you here from any of the others who have not volunteered to do anything yet? Kwhats said he will help anyone who needs it as he is feeling better.
<karen> I'm out of the loop and need something to do. What still needs to be done?
<Counselor> No, I've not heard from anyone...Karen, have you looked at the new challenges?
<Sweetcake> Karen do you know much about aligning graphics with and without tables and making the 2 pages look exactly the same?
<karen> I looked them over, but have not checked the logs to see who's doing what.
<Sweetcake> the placing graphics on tables with text is easy but doing it without the tables and making them look the same is a little hard to do.
<Counselor> I think Carol emailed a message listing the assignments so far.
<karen> Nope, don't know much, but I should be able to learn it.
<Sweetcake> i alread posted what I did but if you can figure out a better way or an improvement to what I have done so far let me know.
<karen> Got it! It's printing now. I'll work within that framework.
<Counselor> I think you have a choice of frames, tables, ...um, I'm drawing a blank...
<karen> I'll look it over, then, and send an e-mail about what I intend to do.
<Counselor> Sounds good, Karen.  :)
<Counselor> Oh, cgi was another option.
<Sweetcake> Counselor is doing the checking of browers I think, we still need a push page, Steve is doing the cgi bin form I think, I am working on the graphics with and without tables, linds is working on different table formats that look the same in both browers, someone is making a border page and using tables to aligh text on the side boeder thing, forgot what else.
<Sweetcake> 3 people are working on frames if I remember correctly.
<Counselor> I think at least one person volunteered for each challenge, so you can just about choose something and help the others working on it.
<karen> Wait, wait. I think I'm up to speed now. Are borders/tables done? Paul, Sasha, Pattie? Are you here?
<Sweetcake> or there is no problem with doing something and just posting it, we can have more than one example of each challenge, this way if someone fails to post we will still be covered.
<karen> Well, I'd rather work with someone who would like some teamwork.
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<karen> I guess that would be Steve or Jeff, since everything else seems to be doubled or tripled up.
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<Troi-> hi all!
<Sweetcake> does not matter if it is done or not, if you want to give it a try go right ahead and do it and post it.
<Counselor> There's Pattie
<Counselor> Howdy..did I spell it right?
<Kwahts> Hi, Troi!!
<JerseyL> hi
<karen> Pattie, Are you and Sasha and Paul overwhelmed by challenges 1 and 3? I can help.
<Troi-> yup.. sure did.. :)
<Troi-> well, I was waiting for them.. and sent info but never heard back from them.. so I did my own on both
<Sweetcake> Anyone hear from Geetha?
<Troi-> I have them posted to the homework page.. Challenge 1 and 3
<Counselor> BTW, Troi, I've not forgotten that image...just haven't had a chance to send it.  Do you still want it?
<karen> OK, great.
<Troi-> yes please.. Thanks Jeff. :)
<Counselor> No prob...
<Sweetcake> Karen, I think since everything is covered you just pick one that interests you and post it on the homework page. This way you learn something and we can learn from what you post. We can have more than one example of a topic.
<Troi-> both of my challenge pages are really simple.. the one on frames and the Background with side border and a small talbe on it.. not interferring with the side border
<Counselor> Karen, you can help me if you don't find anything else to work on...and if you would like doing the challenge that I'm working on.
<Sweetcake> how did you make it? a table with only one column? How did you get it to stay on the side and go all the weay down the page?
<karen> Yours is pretty scary :-) I don't know anything at all about pushes.
<karen> That's probably just exactly what I should work on - something I don't know about.
<Troi-> well, I put up a table without borders.. made it 3 cols.. and didnt put anything in the first column except specifing the column width for the first col.
<Sweetcake> how do you do a widt for one column? /td width=10 ?
<Counselor> Wel, Karen...it's really your choice..as sweetcake says, there's no harm in multiple examples of any of the challenges...as long as we're learing.
<Counselor> learning..that is..
<karen> Then I'll sign up for pushing users around. :-)
<Troi-> yes.. like that.. you can take a look at the source code on the homework page and see exactly how I did it.. I did so much on the homework today I kinda forgot exactly what I did.. LOL
<Troi-> I did that and the frames page today.. just a few hours ago
<Counselor> Well, I suppose it's about time that I move over tto the classroom..
<Sweetcake> Patti, I just went and tried looking at your HW assignment and there was NO Background!
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<Sweetcake> Your background file is pointing to your hard drive instead of your server! The source says "file:///c|/1/border.gif"
<Sweetcake> Pushing users around sounds like fun!
<Counselor> Sounds good, Karen...  :)
<karen> It does, doesn't it!
<Counselor> See ya'll in the classroom.
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<karen> I havn't found he classroom yet. Am Idoing something wrong?
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<Sweetcake> #room825 I think, I'm going there now!
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<Kwahts> Karen?
<karen> yes
<Kwahts> just use "/join #room825"
<karen> I still don't find 825, although more groups are appearing now. I'l give the join command a try.
<Sweetcake> Karen at the command line here just type /join #room825 it is a hidden channel on this server
<karen> Made it! thanks!
<Sweetcake> the channel is not listed on the server it is a private channel.
<Sweetcake> ok I am gonna close this window so I can pay attention in class..
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