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    !       <Counselor>Itcanalsobedonewithjavascript,butit'snotnecessary.̀Keepinmind,though,thatlynxwillnotpushwitheitherjavascriptor̀metatags.<who>soyoumustleavealink?<who>the"ifyouhaven'tchangedin40secondsthenclickhere"typèlink?<Counselor>the"ifyounotchangedin40secs"isthemetatag̀implementation.<who>andthejava?<Counselor>It*does*putupanlinkinlynx,butitdoesnotactuallỳpush..onemustselectthelink.<Counselor>Ofcourse,ifoneusesjavascript,lynxwillnoteveǹrecognizeit.<Counselor>So,themetasolutionisthepreferredsolution.<who>isn'tthataoneortwolinesolution?<Counselor>Unlessone*only*wantstopushinthecaseofgraphical̀browsers.<who>andthen???<Counselor>Thenthejavascriptsolutionisreasonable.<who>No...iseeitasasplashpageintotheintropage<Counselor>Yes,themetatagisjustacoupleoflines..whydoyouthinkÌvolunteeredtodoitforyou..:)<who>iamabo   uttobedelinkedmyself...<who>Becauseyouaremagnanimous!!!!!<who>Myheadwillbedelinkedfrommytorso...orsoitseems<who>iwillleavemyselflogging<Counselor>Well,inlynx,therewillbenossplash.<who>thatsokay...wedon'tneedthempeopleanyway...***whoisnowknownaswho_log<Counselor>Ok,who...would'ntwantyoutoloseyourheadoverthis...:P<who_log>AndaHappyVernalEquinoxtoyouall!!!<Counselor>:)<JerseyL>Enjoy!<Troi->PartyDown!!..:)<Counselor>Ok,JerseyL,backtoyourquestions...<who_log>Myschedule(goal)istobecaughtupbyTuesmeeting...that̀wouldberevisedmtm,workingcgi,colorspage<who_log>theextraswouldbethesplashpageandthereviseorsplitup̀introandclasspages<Counselor>Thatwouldbegreat,who!<JerseyL>OK--Partc--Aretheresometasksforwhichoneofthetwoisàbetterchoice.Justifythatanswerwithanexampleofconcisèexplanation.<who_log>andiwouldappreciateanyhelp<who_log>logging<JerseyL>ImeanORconciseexplanation.<Troi->well,Ineedtogonow..IhavebeenloggingsinceIwasthefirst̀oneontonight,soIhavesomeoftheconversationyoudon'twho.Iwill̀sendmytocarolandletherknowthatyouhaveonewiththeendofthèconversationonit.ok?<Counselor>Hmmmm....<JerseyL>goodnightPattie<Troi->GoodNightall..andGodBless<Counselor>Well,theexampleofthepushthatIwasjustdiscussingisàrationaleforusingmetatagsratherthanjavascript.<Troi->byeSessionClose:FriMar2121:08:491997SessionStart:TueMar2519:59:381997***Nowtalkingin#Web-O-Crats<who_away>whoa...acrowd***who_awayisnowknownaswho<Troi->hiWho!<Troi->caretoopmeandJeff?<Counselor>Hiwhoandtroi<dreamer>bye<who>whobroughtthecards?   	 @-(,   ***Parts:dreamer<Troi->HiyaJeff!***Joins:dreamer<Troi->ThanksWho!***Retrieving#Web-O-Cratschannelinfo...<Counselor>Thankswho.<who>HasanybodybeenhavingtroublewithGeoCitiesrecently?***Troi-changestopicto"StudyGroup.Web-O-CratsMembersonly...Please."<who>dreamerandGuest...weareabouttostartastudygroup...anything̀Icandoforyoubeforetheworkbegins?<Troi->Ihaven'tJeff<Counselor>No,who,whatsortoftrouble?<who>ihaven'tbeenabletouploadfilessinceearlyyesterday<Counselor>Hmmm...Iuploadedfilestodayinanotheracocunt.<Troi->hmmm<who>keepgettingtimedoutor"filecontainsnodata"messages<Counselor>acount...Imean<who>counselor...howdidthatlastwordsound?<Counselor>AreyouusingftportheEZtool<who>usinggeoutil***Quits:Guest984(Guest984)<Counselor>Howdoesthatwork?I'venevertriedit.<who>also...reasoni'muploadingisihadallkindsoftroublewithgeòeditoranddoingframes<Troi->Dreamer?Didyouwantsomething?<who>EZ...itdoesn't...howeverursposedtousebrowsetopointtofilèandclickupload<Counselor>WellIdoallmyworkofflineandupload,butIuseftp.<Counselor>DidyouknowyoucoulduseNetscapetouploadviaftp?<who>mtmpageslookinggoodlocally...butican'tgetthemu/l<who>thatwashowiusedtodotripodfiles...can'trememberhownow***Joins:JerseyL<Counselor>Inthehelpfileitsaidyoucouldd:ftp://member:passwrod@ft̀p.geocities.comtoupload<who>getspoiledandthenwhenutilbreaksi'mlost<JerseyL>hi<Counselor>Howdy!<Troi->Well,DreamerdidnotanswerourquestionshereorintheprivatèmsgIsentthem.SoIvotewekickthemoutsincetheydon'tcaretotalk̀anyway.Whatsaytherestofyou?<Troi->HiJersey!!<Counselor>Sure,Troi...<Troi->who?<Counselor>Who,replacememberwithmembernameandpasswrodwith   	 @-(,   Ѐyourpassword.<JerseyL>CanIkicksomeoneoutsometime?<Counselor>GoaheadandtryitJ<Troi->youcanrightnowJersey..<Troi->WeneedtoreleaseDreamer<JerseyL>DoIkickthemoutorbanthem?<Troi->both<who>k<Troi->Itwillstopthemfromcominginhereandjustsitting->Opson#Web-O-Crats:-CHANOPS-#Web-O-Crats:justdoaclickontheir̀name..control...kick,bancommand<JerseyL>Thenitwantsparameter.->[JerseyL]VERSION<Troi->Jersey..rightmousebuttonclickontheirname,thenpick̀CONTROL..thenpickKick,Ban<who>membernameisweb-o-crats???***dreamerwaskickedbyJerseyL(JerseyL)<JerseyL>gotitthanks***Retrieving#Web-O-Cratschannelinfo...<JerseyL>IfwehaveanypartycrashersIneedtotrythatagain!<Troi->Jersey..youjustkicked..youcandothekick,ban..thatwillkeep̀themfromreturning<JerseyL>Ididn'tseekick,banasachoice.<JerseyL>Nevermind,Ifoundit.<Troi->shouldbe5thchoicedown<Troi->ohok..:)***Joins:Sweetcake<Troi->CAROL!!!!!!!!!!!!<JerseyL>hiCarol<Counselor>Hey!Theresheis!<Troi->Gladtoseeyouback..:)<Sweetcake>Helloeveryone!<who>geoisp***ingmeoff!<Troi->notmewho..<Sweetcake>Yesamback!Tiredbutfunctioning!<Counselor>Didyoutryftp?<JerseyL> 1,6:(<Sweetcake>what'swrongwithgeo?<Counselor>Whoishavingtroubleuploading.<JerseyL> 1,4:(<who>C:fromwheredoiftp?<Sweetcake>Geowasworkingearliertoday..wasworkingonmyproject̀page.<who>Imeanijustclickdirectoryrefreshandit'sbeenrunningabout5̀mins   	 @-(,   <Counselor>IntheURLlocationtype:ftp://member:passwrd@ftp.geocitiès.com<who>andmemberisweb-o-crats?<Counselor>Onceyou'reloggedin,gotothefilemenuandselectupload<who>i'lltryitassoonasrefreshfinishes<Counselor>right...don'ttypethepasshere...youcanenteritthere.<Counselor>They*have*beenslowtoday....but,likeCarol,I'vuploaded̀too.<who>howaboutifitypemypininstead<Counselor>Maybethat'stheprob<who>thinki'lllogoutofnsandbackin...seeifthathelps<Counselor>:)<Counselor>Goodidea..<Sweetcake>ifthatdoesnothelpmaybeyoushouldrelogintoyour̀serveralltogether.Maybeyourinternetconnectionisnotverystable.<who>i'vegot"connect:Hostwww.....Waitingforreply"beenthatway5̀now<Counselor>That*is*alongtime...<who>nowi'moutletmetryagain...i'lltryftp<Counselor>IfIwereyou,I'daborttheloadwiththeESCkeyandtrỳagain.<who>ijusthitstopandclosedallns<Sweetcake>Who--IjustwenttotheGeocitiesfilemanagerandwentintòmyaccountandsucessfullyuploadedadummytestfileandituploaded̀fastandnoproblems!Ithensucessfullydeletedtheuploadedfilenòproblem.<Sweetcake>WHO--Ithinkyoumayneedtologoffandreconnecttoyour̀serverorsomething.<Counselor>Maybehisserverisjustoverloadedrightnow.<who>Got"GeoCitiesloginincorrect"<Counselor>Oh,man...makesurethemembernameandpwarècorect..remembecase.<who>okay...i'mgettingoffandon...nobodysayanythinguntiligetback<who> 1,8:) ***Parts:who<Sweetcake>sometimesthathappenestomewithmyserver,Iam̀connectedbutnotverygood.usuallyifIlogoofandrelogonthetroublègoesaway.IfthatdoesnotworkIusuallylogoffrebootandthenrelog̀andtheneverythingworksjustfine.GeocitiesworksjustfineformèrightnowasIjusttestedit.<Counselor>Mywife'sservergetsbusythistimeofdayandslowswaỳdownlikethat.<Sweetcake>whatwaswhotryingtoupload?<Counselor>Hedidn'tsay.<Counselor>Fortunately,theUWdoesn'tseemtohavesomuchofaprob   	 @-(,   Ѐlikethat.<Sweetcake>Jeffhaveyouheardfromanyofournonparticipating̀memberslikegeethaandKaren&Robert?<Counselor>Nope...I'venotheardfromanyone.<Troi->sothisiswhatyoutype?ftp://(groupname):(our̀password)@ftp.geocities.com<Troi->Ihaventheardfromanyofthemeither.<Counselor>Yup...that'ssupposedtowork.<Troi->whataboutPaul(riffraff)<Counselor>He'sbeentothelastcoupleofmeetings<Sweetcake>ws_ftp32iswhatIusewhenIwanttodoftp..justopenitup̀anditworksjustgreat.nevertrieditfromthecommandlineinnetscape<Troi->Doesanyoneknowifhehasdoneanyofhischallenge?***Joins:who<who>Okay...youcantalknow!<Troi->sameherecarol..Ijustusews_ftp\<Sweetcake>IhavenotseenanyHWpostedforthisweekexceptfor̀mineandyoursunlesssomeonepostedrecently.<Counselor>Idon'tknowifPaulhasdoneanything...and,I'venottriedthèNetscapeftpeither,butIunderstandit'ssupposedtowork.<who>durnit....whatdidimiss?<Troi->ohCarol..howdoyoulikethenewHotdog3sofar..Iloveit!<Troi->Itriedthenetscapeftpandcouldntgetaconnect.<JerseyL>Iwasjustinthejavalinkonourpage.It'sprettygood.<Sweetcake>Ireallylikealltheaddedfeaturesbutthebuiltinviewand̀editingwindowisalittlesmall.<JerseyL>Iwenttoashoppingappletwhereyoudragwhatyouwantintòashoppingbagandittotalsit.<Troi->Ijusthavetheicons...notextontheleftside..turnedthemoff..̀anditseemstobethesameworkingsizeforme<Sweetcake>Didyouthrowanythingintothebagforus?<JerseyL>Theyonlyhad12choices--mostofthemforsailing.<JerseyL>Kindofexpensivetoo--whatwouldyoulike.<Sweetcake>Howiseveryonesprojectpagescomingalong?<Counselor>Who,doyouhaveWS_FTP?<who>huh<Sweetcake>ABIGsailboat!Iliveabout1/2milefromtheocean!<JerseyL>I'llorderyouthejibsail.<Troi->Ihaven'tworkedonmineandrobertsforawhile..haven'theard̀anythingfromhim..<Sweetcake>hehehe..<who>backtowaitingreply<JerseyL>IhaveWS_FTPIlikeit.<JerseyL>Ihaveaquestion.<who>whatisWS_FTP?   	 @-(,   <Troi->metooJersey..itsgreat<Sweetcake>whomaybeyouneedtotryagaintomorrow..whatwereyoùtryingtoupload?<who>i'minnow<Troi->GotothetucowssiteanddownloaditWho<Counselor>Who,it'sanftpclient...what'syourquestionJ.<JerseyL>WhenyougointotheNetscapefolder--Navigator--Program.̀ThereisafolderforJAVA.whatisthat???<Counselor>Ok,who,gotothefilemenuandupload<who>thenewmtmpages<Counselor>Hmmm...gotmeonthatone,JerseyL.<JerseyL>Anyone??<who>iputupthelogjust2daysagowithnoprobs<Sweetcake>Lindamaybeitisforthebuiltinjavastuffinthebrowser<who>Ifoundaninterestingjavascripttheotherday<Counselor>Whatwasthatwho?<who>ittookusersona"tour"ofthesiteifitwastheirfirsttimethere<who>actuallytookcontrolofbrowsertoshowuseraroundfeatures<JerseyL>ThatmakessenseCarol.thanks<who>thenreturnedcontrol....kindascarey<Troi->WS...FTP..FileTransferProtocol<Counselor>Interesting...<who>AllRIGHT!!!firstfileof6uploaded!!!!<JerseyL>AreyougoingtogiveustheURL?<Troi->herestheURLtodownloadtheWS_FTPfromwho:<Troi->http://tucows.phx.cox.com/ftp95.html<who>inamoment....onceall6rthere<JerseyL>Sorry,Imeanttheaddressforthejava"tour"<who>oh...uno<Sweetcake>IhaveasubdirectoryforblacksuninmineandIknowId/làjavaaddonforblacksunchatorsomething.Wastryingoutthevrml̀geocitieschatthingoneday.<Troi->IknowJersey..Iwasjustgettingthatforwho....:)<JerseyL>Carol--couldyouexplainquicklyhowyoudidyourpage--itwas̀great.<Sweetcake>TheJAVAappletIgotfromaplacecalledTheJAVÀMachine...letmegettheURLholdononesec..<Counselor>IdidaformtodayonGeo.<JerseyL>Howdoyougetthejavaappletandputitonyourpage?Get̀thesourcecode,then...<Sweetcake>http://www.robtex.com/jm/jm.htmisthenameofthesite.Itis̀realKOOL.Youcanpickalldifferentthingsandedititthewayyoulikèandthenitgivesyouthecodetoputityourhtmlandalsogivesyouthèoptionofd/ltheclassfile.Youcanalsopullthe.classfiledirectlyfrom̀hissitebutitisnotrecommendedbecauseofloadtime.Thenyou   	 @-(,   Ѐuploadtheclassfileandaddthehtmlcodefragmenttoyourpageandit̀works!<who>iwillgiveyoutheurlinamoment...don'twanttobreathtohard̀whileu/lisgoingon...justincase<who>waitingreplyagain<Sweetcake>Youcanalsod/lhiswholeprogramanddoeverything̀offline!<Counselor>SC,isitfreewareorshareware?<Sweetcake>gottagetasodawillbrb<Counselor>Who,areyouusingEZorftp?<JerseyL>IsthereanywayIcancutandpastewhatshejustwrote?<Counselor>Yes,JerseyL,highlightitandgototheeditmenuandcutit.<Counselor>Copyitactually.<JerseyL>I'monmircandthereisnoedit.<Counselor>Hmmm...tryCTRL-C<Counselor>Youprobablywon'tknowanythinghappeneduntilyoutrytòpasteitsomewhere.<JerseyL>ctrl-cdidn'twork<who>EZisworkingnow...almostdone<who>JERSEY<who>thehighlightaloneisthectl-Cfunction...justtryctl-V<Counselor>MaybeWhocanhelpyou..<JerseyL>thatworked!!Ijustmailedittomyself.<JerseyL>ctrl-cworked<who>oneofthose"features"youhavetostumbleinto<JerseyL>butyouwouldn'tknowunlessyoupastedit<Sweetcake>amback..JefftheprogramTheJAVAmachineisfreewareÌbelieve.<Counselor>Yeah,it'sstandardWindowsthatthebottomlefthandkeys̀combinedwithCTRLdothecutandpastefunctions.<who>No...youdon'tevenneedtodoctl-c<who>Hangonguys...wecanalltestdrivethenewpagesassoonas̀refreshends<Counselor>Ok,Carol,thanks...<Counselor>Howwasyourdaughter'sparty,Carol,andhowisthèbusinesscomingalong?<Sweetcake>TheJAVAscriptsthatIputonthedemopageIjustgrabbed̀themoffofajavascriptpageandpostedthem.Justeditiedthetextiǹoneofthemandthatwallalltherewastoit.Nothardatall.<Sweetcake>Thepartywasjustgreat.Iputthepicturesintheshoptoday.̀HopefullyaniceoneofTraceywillcomeoutthatIcanpostonherpage.̀Wehadagreattime.WastiredafteritwasalloverwithcookingalldaỳonThurs,partyonFridayandworkonsat&sun.YesterdayIcleanedup̀athomeandgotcaughtuponmyhouseworkandtodayIwasworkingoǹmyprojectpage.   	 @-(,   <Counselor>I'mgladthepartywentwell...You'llhavetoletusknoẁaboutthepictureswhenyougetthemup.<Sweetcake>ThiseveningIwasdoingsomeworkonourbusinessweb̀pages.HopefullyinafewdaysIwillgetthemallcompletedandreadỳtopostandgoonline.Butthebusinessisdoingwell..startingoffverỳslow.DonotwanttotakeonmorethanIcanhandle.<Counselor>That'sunderstandable...<Counselor>Well,who,how'sitcomin'?<who>Well...i'mreadyforthetestdrive...ru?<Counselor>Yougofirst...:P<who>everybodygotoWOCpage<who>andsingalong...I'veseenfireI'veseenrain<Sweetcake>Thankstowhoeveritwasthatpostedafewlinksinthèresourceroom!Westillneedafewmoreifanyonehassomefreetimèandcanupdateourresourcelinksitwillbeappreciated!<Sweetcake>thenwhatdowehavetodooncewegetthere?<who>clickontheMeettheMember....<who>andpray!<Troi->IputupafewintheCGIpart..<Counselor>Yeah,who,where'sthatguidedtour?<who>orisitprey?<Sweetcake>okHailMaryfullofgrace.....<Sweetcake>ohh!!minewenttoameetthemembersinframes!verynicèwho!'<who>oooo...soclose!<Sweetcake>ThanksPattie!Weallappreciateitverymuch!<Counselor>Yeah,thankstroi..<Sweetcake>stillafewsectionsthatareratherbare.<who>intropageinmainframeismissing<who>drat<who>lemmefixit...youcantryclickingonamembernamewhileifiddle<Sweetcake>http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Plains/9342/mtmintro.ht̀mlismissing!Ilikeyourbackgroundthough!<Troi->YourwelcomeCarol..Iwilltryandfindmoretopostalso...onthèothertopics<Troi->WowWho..looksprettygood..<who>justatypo...itwillbefixedinajiffy<JerseyL>IwentinwhenyousaidtoandthoughtImustbemissing̀something,butitjustreloadedanditlooksgreat.<Troi->Who,Ilovethebackgroundofmarble..butmaybeyoucouldmakèthenamesintheleftframeboldtomakethetextoverthereeasiertòread.<who>thereissomefudgingyettodo<who>like...howdoigettheborderlessborders?<Troi->LooksGreatWho!Youhadaprettygoodidea..andnicelayout..:)   	 @-(,   <who>andoldlinkshavetobetakenoutofexistingpages<who>andwhattodoaboutframelessbrowsers?<Counselor>Justmakesureyounameeachframesomethingsomewhat̀descriptive.<who>and...iwashopingPaulwouldbeheretoworkonwordingofintròpagewhichshouldbeaccessibleanymomentnow<Sweetcake>maybethefirstpagesomeonecanchoosebetweenframes̀andnoframes?<Counselor>I'veseensuchthingsasmain,menu,etc.***Joins:Q<who>framenamesareglobe,web1(existingname),list,anddetails<Counselor>Soundsgood..<who>stillrefreshingtypo<JerseyL>Ihavetogoinaminute,butIhaveanotherquestionforCarol.̀Areyouthere?<Troi->Hey..question...Iamgoingtobebuyingaflatbedscannerthis̀weekendandstillhaventdecidedononeyet..anysuggestions?<who>didyounoticeatthebottomthe"putyourstuffhere"andtheGuest̀Starcomingsoon<Sweetcake>yes?<Counselor>IlovemyHP#C.<Counselor>3Cthatis.<JerseyL>Iwenttotherobtexpage,buthowdoyoudownloadtheclass̀file.<who>MyEpsonSystemIIworksfineandwasrelativelyinexpensive<Troi->WorksgoodehJeff?*Soundrequest:can'tfind[computer.au]*Qplayscomputersound*Soundrequest:can'tfind[computer.au]*Qplayscomputersound*Soundrequest:can'tfind[computer.au]*Qplayscomputersound*Soundrequest:can'tfind[computer.au]*Qplayscomputersound*Soundrequest:can'tfind[computer.au]*Qplayscomputersound<Sweetcake>ILOVEmyscanner.IhaveaMustekMFS-12000SP30bit̀flatbedcolorscannerandILOVEit!***QwaskickedbyTroi-(maybeinyouruniverse)<JerseyL>WejustgotanHPatschoolandreallylikeit,don'tknowthènumberthough.<Sweetcake>holdonletmecheck..<who>still"waitingforreply"again<Counselor>Idon'tthinkHPmakesthe3Canymore..they'reuptothe4C̀nowIthink.   	 @-(,   <Troi->ok..goodsuggestions...IhaveaMustekHandheldscannernow..̀movingupintheworldthough..hehehehe<who>ihadagirlfriendwhowasaCorD<Troi->ohWho....tsktsk....LOL<who>butithinkitwas34<JerseyL>duh?***Retrieving#Web-O-Cratschannelinfo...<JerseyL>WhileI'mwaiting,Pattie,howdoyoukicksomeoneoutinyour̀universe?<Counselor>Ithinkyou'llreallyenjoyaflatbedcolorscanner.<Troi->thanksforthesuggestioneveryone..<Troi->LOLJersey..<Troi->umm..wellyouknowaboutthekickban..so..<Sweetcake>YouclickonthegetHTMLbuttonandintherighthandframèyouwillseeathingthatsaysclickheretod/lthejava.classfile.<Troi->hangonandletmeseewhereyouputthemessageforitagain..̀BRB<who>Weshoulddecideonwhichnamesstayandwhichnamesgofor̀theclass!<Counselor>Goodpoint,who...I'venotheaerdfromanyonethisweek.<JerseyL>Isee,Ididn'tgototheLaunchpage.ThanksCarol.<Sweetcake>wehavenotheardfromgeethaorKarenforabout4weeks̀nowIthink!<who>Also...ihaveacoupleofQsfortheframes?<Counselor>Soundsaboutright.<Sweetcake>yourwelcomehavefunplayingwiththejavamachine!Itisàlotoffunfoolingaroundwithallthesettings.<Sweetcake>WehavenotheardfromRobertinquiteawhileeither.<Counselor>Ireallyaminclinedtothinkthey'vegivenuptheclass..<who>IsawRiffRaffontheICQtonite..butheisnothere?<Troi->okJersey...gotothePopUpMenus..(8thbuttonfromleftonicoǹbar)clickonNicknameslist.thenwhereitsaysCONTROL..seethè.kick/kick#$$1(putyourkickmessagethere..<Troi->.Kick:/kick#$$1Maybein*your*Universe.Notinmine!(thisis̀mykick,bancommand)<Counselor>Iwishthey'datleasthavedroppedmeaquicknotetosaỳtheywredone.<Troi->.Kick:/kick#$$1Maybein*your*Universe.Notinmine!(thisis̀mykickcommand)<Sweetcake>Ithinkwearereallydowntous5only.IsPaulbacktòparticipatingforthisweekslesson?<who>Q#1:Inordertocenter,size,etc.thegifsglobeandWeb-O-Crats,Ìhadtobuildhtmlfiles...wasthereanotherwaytodothatfortheframes?<Troi->IthoughKarenwasinoneoflastweeksstudygroups?<Counselor>Well,hesaidhewould.   	 @-(,   <who>Q#2:HowdoIgetridofthebordersaroundtheframes?<JerseyL>ThanksPattie,Ihavetogo.AnotherminuteandI'llfallasleep̀onmykeyboard.Goodnight.<who>JerseyL...pleasecheckyourmtmpageforaccuraceyandall<Counselor>'nightJerseyL.<Troi->GoodNightJersey..andYourwelcome..:)<who>niteJL<JerseyL>oksteve--meetingnextTuesdayright?<Counselor>Right...nextTuesday.***Quits:JerseyL(Leaving)<who>turnintime!<Sweetcake>ForgotaboutSasha..isshestillparticipating?YesIdòthinkthastKarenparticipatedinthehomeworkbeforethisone.Ireallỳthinktheonlypersonwehavenotheardfrominover4weeksisgeetha.<Troi->wellall..Ihavetogotoo..<Troi->Nightall!..SweetdreamsandGodBless!<Troi->Bye<Counselor>Ok,Troi...thanks.*Troi-Troistepsintotheteleporter,wavesgoodbyetoallherfriends.But̀I'llbebacklater.GODBless!!!<who>niteT<Sweetcake>nightPattie!<Counselor>'night.SessionClose:TueMar2521:20:071997SessionStart:TueApr0120:41:131997***Nowtalkingin#Web-O-Crats<Troi->Hi..SorryIamlate...Gotcaughtupinsomething.<JerseyL>HiPattie<Counselor>HowdyTroi.<who>BTW:FirstitemofbusinessiwouldliketoDECIDEtonightiswhat̀todoabout"members"<Sweetcake>evenifwedonothavethetimeitwouldonlytakeaminutètounzipthelogandlinktothewholethingwithoutediting.doesanyonèrememberwhatlogitwas?<JerseyL>I'llvolunteertodothelogpartforchallenge1.<Troi->HiJersey,Counselor,Whoandofcourse..Carol.:-)<Sweetcake>HelloPattie!<who>Imeanmaybeweshould 4fine thosewhoshowup 4LATE !!!<Troi->Hey...notmewho..Ihavebeentoallthemeetingexceptone..And̀IletsomeoneknowIwasntcoming..<Counselor>Ok,thanksJerseyL.<who> 1,8:) <Troi->:-)<Sweetcake>IthinkweshouldsendthoseanotetorespondtoJeffbyour   	 @-(,   Ѐnextstudygroupmeetingandiftheydonotrespondweshoulddeletèthemfromoursiteentirely.<Counselor>Do*what?*<who>noithinkthisgroupplusSashaaretheactivemembers...amìmissinganyone?<Sweetcake>Pattie..whowasonlykidding..wearediscussingthosewèhavenotheardfrominoveramonthlikekkokwhatsgeethariffraffetc.<JerseyL>riffdropped<Troi->:-)KindafigguredsomethinglikethatCarol..:-)<Sweetcake>InactivemembersareGeetha,Karen,Robert,Paul,didÌmissanyone?<JerseyL>Ithinkweshouldtellthemtheirnameswillbedeletedbyàcertaindateunlesswehearfromthemandthemdropthem.<who>We'vedonethat!<Counselor>Ok,IcouldsendanottothosemembersandrequestàresponsebyFriday.<Counselor>note,thatis.<JerseyL>We'vealreadyaskedforresponsesandtheydidn't<JerseyL>wenevertoldthemtheywouldbedeletedunlessweheard̀fromthem<Troi->Thatsoundsgoodtome..Itsnotfairforafewtocarrythosewhòcan'tordon'twanttodoanyofthework<Sweetcake>Soundsgood...letthemknowthatweatleastneedtheir̀replytoyournotetostayinthegroupandiftheyreplywealsoneed̀theirinputandurlfortheirprojectpagefortheclass.<Counselor>Ok,IagreewithJerseyLandall...they'vehadlotsof̀chances,soFridayshouldbeanadequatecutoff.<Sweetcake>Jeffwhenyousendthenotetotheinactivememberpleasèsendacarbonofthemessagetotherestofustoread.<JerseyL>keepitshortandsimple<who>Also,tellthemthatthismaybetheirfinalchancebeforethecomet̀leaves!<Sweetcake>hehehe..<Counselor>heheheh<Troi->AnyideasonhowIshouldhandlemyprojectpageifKwhatsbows̀out...afterallweweresupposedtobeworkingonourprojecttogether.<JerseyL>Howmuchisdoneonit?<Troi->Well,IdidalltheHTMLcodeingandsettingupofthepage..hèjustcontributedafewstories<who>T:whatexactlywasthat...thefieldsofcorn...orsomesuch?<Sweetcake>Isayyoushouldedititandcreateyoursiteaboutwhatever̀youwishtosayaboutreligion..isyourpagehostedatyoursiteorat̀Robert's?<Troi->SowtheSeed..onReligion<JerseyL>IagreewithCarol   	 @-(,   <Troi->Atmysite<who>Yes..iagree<Counselor>Perhapsyoushouldwritehimtooandaskhim..<who>Ihaveafeelingmy"project"willbeabitslimatturnintime<Troi->yes..goodidea..<Sweetcake>YoucankeepRobert'sstoriesonlyifyoulikethemandtheỳcontributetowhatyouwanttosay..ifhedropsoutyoucouldalsodeltèhisstoriesifyoudon'twanttousethem.<Troi->thankscounselorforthesuggestion..andthankallofyouforyour̀input<who>ienvisionminimumof"Thispageisasplashpagethatdissolves̀intothenextpage"<Counselor>Ifyoudon'thearfromhimthendoasyoufeelisappropriate.<Sweetcake>thatisOKwhoaslongasyouhaveaURLandaunder̀constructionsignIdonotthinktheinstructorswillmind.<who>etc.,insteadoftheactualcoding...tostartwith...thenfillinthèpagesasican<Counselor>Oh,beforewemoveon,whoshouldIcontactagain?<Troi->Jersey..BTW..ItookalookatyourChallenge#2....it'slooking̀good..:-)<JerseyL>thanksPattie<JerseyL>Didyousee2c?<Sweetcake>geetha,paul,karen,robert,sasha<Troi->no..justaandb..Iwilltakeanotherlookifyouhavecupnow<Counselor>Ok...<Sweetcake>Iliked2c!yourexamplesweregreat!<JerseyL>Paulandriffarethesameandwhoheardthathedroppedout.<who>2cmademyeyesthrob!<JerseyL>LOL<JerseyL>gotyourattention??<Sweetcake>Jeff,sendmessagestoGeetha,Sasha,Paul,Robert&̀Karen.<Sweetcake>Yesitgotmyattention!<who>Oh...BTW...CyberCityfinallygavememypagesyesterday<Counselor>Ok,SC..***Joins:weasel***Parts:weasel<who> 11  22  33  44  55  66  77  88  99  1010  1111  1212  1313  1414  1515  <Sweetcake>Aretheyupyet?Theygavemespaceabout3daysagoand̀Iuploadedabasicdummypagebuttheirsiteitselfisstillverybasic̀withnorealcontent.<Counselor>So,whatareyougoingtodowiththem,who?<who> 9Nooneobjectstomydoingthesplashpage?<Troi->WoW!!!prettycoolJersey..JusttookalookatC..:-)   	 @-(,   <who>SC:exactly...andnoemailaddyforthewebmasterforquestions<who>andnoutilsthatihavefoundyet<Sweetcake>Idonotobjecttoanyonewhowishestoupdateorchangèoursiteinanywayatall..ifyouhavethetimeandyouwanttodothèworkIsaygoaheadanddoit!<who>buttheydosupportallsortsofcgissijavaetc<Counselor>IagreewithSC.<Sweetcake>Imaymovemypersonalprojectpagetothecybercitiessitèbutamwaitinguntiltheygetfullybackontheirfeet..rightnowtheplacèscaresme..<who>italsoseemedreallyslowtome<who>andEnglishisdefinitelyasecondlanguageatCybercity<Troi->LOL***Joins:VR***Retrieving#Web-O-Cratschannelinfo...<Sweetcake>soIhave5megstherethatIamdeaflyafraidtouseright̀now...***VRwaskickedbySweetcake(YourTOAST!)<Troi->goodoneCarol..<Sweetcake>thatpersongotonmylastnearve..hasbeencominginall̀nightandsendingeveryoneprivatemessagesthatdon'tmakeanỳsence..***Joins:MOOOOOOOOOOOO***MOOOOOOOOOOOOwaskickedbyTroi-(maybeinyouruniverse)<Sweetcake>whocanyoubanhisdomainname?Idonotknowhow!<Troi->yeahIgotastupidmoomsg..<Troi->Ibannedhim<Sweetcake>thankspattie!<Sweetcake>metoo<Sweetcake>brb***Retrieving#Web-O-Cratschannelinfo...<who>cominginthruclassroom<Sweetcake>okI'mback..***Joins:fast<fast>setmode***Parts:fast<Counselor>Oh,BTW,whenIsendmynoteout,I'llcopyallofyou,sobèsuretolookattheheadersoyoudon'tthinkI'mwritingittoyou...you'll̀beintheCCfield.***Sweetcakechangestopicto"V.U.Class825Privatestudygroup--membersonlyplease"<Troi->ok...thanksJeff..<Sweetcake>ThanksJeff..willbesuretonotethat!Wewillknowtheletter̀isnotaimedatuswhoarehere..<JerseyL>DoesanyoneknowwhereIcangetapictureofaschool      񀀀bus--preferablyonedrivinguptheInformationSuperHighway,butIdon't̀thinkIcanbethatpicky.<Troi->IwillbesuretotryandgetaholdofKwahtsinthemeatimeabout̀ourprojectpage<Counselor>Ok,Troi.<Sweetcake>NoIdon'tknowaboutabusbutifIcomeacrossoneI'lllet̀youknow..<Troi->hmm..Jersey..cantsayIhaveseenone..trydoingasearchoǹImages/vehicles<who>iwillkeepmyeyesopen<Counselor>Wemighthaveabusinourclipartcollection.Ifyoudon't̀findsomethingletmeknowandI'lmywifecheck.<JerseyL>thanks--goodideaPattie<Counselor>I'lhavemywifechekc,thatis.<who> 4BTW: Nobodysentmeanychangesfortheirpages...iseverybodỳtotallysatisfied???<JerseyL>totally<Troi->IthinkIamsatifiedwithitWho,Iwillcheckitoutagaintomakèsurethought..butIthinkyoudidagreatjob.<who>Linda:thoughtimightenlargeyourphotoalittle...forbalance<Sweetcake>mypageisjustfine..Iediteditmyselftosaveyouthètrouble..<JerseyL>Fine-butwon'titgetblurry?<who>Ialsowanttodoawaywithtableonpageonesoitmeansadding̀emailaddyandhomepagetitletoeachmemberspages<Counselor>I'venotlookedatmineyet...ismyphotoonit?<Troi->Oh..bytheway..Ididgetmyflatbedscanner..gotaMustek̀600IIEP..Iloveit..<who>Linda:doyouhaveaniconforyourpersonalproject..oristhatthèbus?<Sweetcake>yesIthinkthereisaphotoofyouinasombrerohat<Counselor>Ok,thanks...I'lltakealookthisweek.<who>C:yourphotoisabit"informal"butitisokayyourLordship<JerseyL>Anicon???Iwantedtoputabusonjusttoaddagraphic.̀Wouldlovetodoananimatedgraphic,butdon'thavethetime.<who>JL:justaniconforthemtmpartaboutyourpage...buswould̀probablybeperfect...althoughtheschoolhousethatisthereisprobablỳokaytoo<Counselor>Informal?NobodytoldmeIwassupposedtowearatux...<JerseyL>lol<who>C:Thinkineedtospellyournamerightonyourpage,andaddaǹiconforyourproject<Counselor>Ok,fixitandletmeknow...:P<who>lookingforacharacatureofMrM'Goobuthavingnoluck...<duck>   	 @-(,   *Troi-gloatsjustalittlebecausetheWildcatsoftheUniv.ofArizonawoǹintheBasketballchampionshiplastnight..:-)<who>seriously..doyouhaveaniconforyourpage?<who>Go'zona,GoPac10<Counselor>Um,no...hadn'tthoughtofthat.Doesanyonehaveanỳidaes?<Sweetcake>Hasanyonevisitedthecompetitionspagesandprojects̀lately?<Troi->ThanksWho..:)<who>notime<JerseyL>yes--IspentALOTOFTIMEyesterdaydoingthat<JerseyL>Itseemsalotofthemareconcentratingontheirprojectsand̀notdoinghomework.<Sweetcake>Howisthecompetitionlooking?<Troi->Ihavevistedafewofthem..andalotseemliketheyjustletthem̀goanddidntdoanythingonthem..onlyafewwereveryextensive<JerseyL>Manyarefarbehindintheirhomework<Counselor>Unlessthey'reworkingbehondthescenes,sotospeak.<Sweetcake>maybeafewofthemhavealmostnooneleftintheirgroups̀tofinishthehw.<Troi->TheLighthousehasonlyhadtheirmainpageupsincethèbeginning..withnolinks<JerseyL>Iwastryingtogetideasonchallenge2,butveryfewhadit̀done<who>Howareourlinks?ourresources?doweneedmore?<Sweetcake>Ithinkyourchallengecameoutjustfine..Ireallyenjoyed̀yourexamplepage.<JerseyL>Ifoundourjavalinkinformative<Troi->Ihadtodoalotoflookingthingsupfortheterminologychallenge..̀thankgoodnessforonlinePCdictionaries..:-)<Counselor>IthinkRiffwasdoingchallenge4...ifhe'sdroppedout,whòwantstotdoit?<who>whatischallenge4?<Sweetcake>brb<who>AsagroupselectoneoftheonlineJavaScripttutorials.Thismaỳbeeitheronethat<who>hasbeensuggestedoroneyouhavelocatedonyourown.̀Individuallyreadoverit.<who>Reviewwhatyouhavelearnedwithyourgroupanddiscusswhat̀youdidordidnot<who>understand.Usingtheinformationyouhavelearned,attempttòwriteabasicscript.<who>groupthingie...i'vegotone!<JerseyL>Ijustgote-mailfromKaren(actuallytoallofus)andshejust̀droppedout!   	 @-(,   <Troi->oh....:(<Sweetcake>maybeinresponcetomyreminderforchattonight!<who>iwouldlovetowriteascript...infactitwritesasamplecalculater̀script***Joins:fast***Parts:fast<Sweetcake>IdonotthinkIknowenoughtowritemyownscript.That̀assignmentisovermyhead!<who>http://www.javasoft.com/nav/read/Tutorial/index.html<Troi->overminetoo..<JerseyL>overminetoo<who>javatutorialfromthejdk1.1downloadsite***Joins:weasel<weasel>hello<who>ifitisouronlyhopei'llgiveitashot...knowmytimeisprobablynòmorepreciousthananybodyelses***Parts:weasel<Counselor>Ok,thakswho..ifyouneedIcantrytohelp,butI'mgoingtòbeluckytoget#6done.<Counselor>Andmyproject.<Sweetcake>goforit..Icouldeditsomeoneelse'sscriptandpostitbut̀donotthinkIhavetheknowledgeorcapasitytowritemyownscript̀fromscratchyet.<who>i'vegotsomeQsabout"pageone",thegrouppage<Counselor>Ok,goaheadwho..<who>dowewanttoleavethesoundonit?ifso,canimoveittothèbottomofthepage?<Sweetcake>WhoIwilltrytodosomereadingandlendahandifneeded,̀butIwillhavetostartfromscratchinthecodingdepartment.***Joins:heather14<who>infact...hereispartofalisti'mworkingon:<who>listofsitechanges<who>1)splashpagetobeindex.htmlpointingtorenamedintropage<who>2)Pageone:<who>    `	 movesoundtobottomordelete   	 $X"   <who>    `	 movelogstoseparatepage   	 $D #   <who>    `	 deleteannouncementscell   	 %0!$   <who>    `	 reformatresourcesanddemosformoreinfo   	 &"%   <who>    `	 removememberlistandhighlightMTMfeature   	 '#&   <who>    `	 redistributerestofpage   	 (#'   <who>    `	 changebackground?   	 )$(   <who>3)MTMpages***heather14isnowknownasblue***Parts:blue<Sweetcake>Whowouldyoulikemetomovethelogstoadifferentpage   	 @-(,   Ѐandlinkthemtoourindex.htmlfileforyou?Wouldthathelpatall?<who>yes...wouldhelptremendously<Sweetcake>Ilikethesoundatthebottom.<who>basically,i'mtryingtogetthepagetoloadquicker<Troi->Ikindoflikethatbackgroundofabrickwall.<Sweetcake>OkIwillmakeanewpagecalledlogs.htmandmoveallthèlinkstoourlogsthere.IwillalsomovethelinktoourIRCchatschedulètothetopofthenewlogspage.<who>idoto,infactiuseditformyveryfirstpersonalpage,iwasjust̀tryingtomakethefirstpagelooksimiliartotherestofthemtmpages<who>forconsistency...perhapsthelogpageandhomeworkpagescould̀usethebricks?<Sweetcake>PattieIcanusethebrickwallonthenewlogs.htmpage..̀thiswaywewillstillhaveitonoursite..<who>SC:andputalinktothenewpagesontheorig?<Counselor>Ithinkweshouldhaveabachgroundoflogsonourlogs̀page...:P<Troi->whatwereyouthinkingofasabackgroundtothemainpagetheǹWho..Ihopenotjustpinkorblue..<Sweetcake>yesIwillalsoeditourcurrentindex.htmlfileanddeleteout̀thereferencestotheoldlogsandplacealinktothenewpageinstead.̀Thiswayitwillbeeasierforyoutoconverttowhatyouareworkingon.<Sweetcake>doyouhavealogbackgroungJeff?<who>dunno...perhapsthemarblingorsomethingsubtle<Counselor>No...Ijustthoughtitwouldbe....appropriate.<Troi->thatsoundsgoodwho..Ilikethemarblelook..:-)<Counselor>Ihaveamarblebackgroundonmymainpage.<JerseyL>Itriedthemarblingonmyhwpagesanditwastoodarkformỳwordstostandout<Sweetcake>Ilikemarbletooaslongasitisnotverydark..forsomèreasonIlikelighterbackgroundsoverdarkbackgrounds.<JerseyL>Ilikelighterbackgroundstoo.<who>C:problemihadwithmarbleonmtmpagesisfindingcolorsfor̀textandlinks<JerseyL>Icouldchangemyhwpagestobrick.Isbrickoutorin?<who>somarblemustbelightandsubtle<Counselor>Takealookatthemarbleonmypagehttp://www.geocities.còm/Heartland/Plains/2122/<who>Linda...brickit!<Troi->http://leeca8.leeca.ohio.gov/ofcs/ofcs.html......thissiteHasabus̀graphicJersey..(beencheckingforyouinbetweentimes..;-)<JerseyL>ThanksPattie.<Troi->noproblem..:-)<JerseyL>Ihavetogo.It'salmost11:30andIhavetogetupearly.good̀night   	 @-(,   <Counselor>Goodnight<JerseyL>Havetobetoschoolat7:10<Counselor>SeeyaFriday.<who>C:<Troi->NightJersey!!!*Troi-saysGoodByeJerseyLGodBless!!<who>quickQ<who>JL:goodnight<Counselor>yeahwho<Sweetcake>nightLinda!<who>keepyourfeetdryLinda<who>C:sorry,sawyourgoodnightandthoughtyouwereleaving***Quits:JerseyL(Leaving)<Counselor>N...notme...justsayingthattoJL.<who>Isthereawaytostartmusicthatplaysacrosssite<Counselor>NotthatI'mawareof...unlessyoumaketheentiresiteonèpage.<Counselor>Or,perhapswithframes.<who>AND,yourmarbleissosubtleICAN"TSEEIT?<who>isthereawaytoopenanewwindowwithalink?<Sweetcake>Jeff..youhavenomarblebackgroundonyourpage..<Counselor>Doyoumeanit'snotshowingup,orisitreallythatsubtle?<who>nobackgroun<who>d<Troi->wellall,Igottagetgoingmyself..IwillseeyouallonFridayÌguess..TakeCareandGoodNightall..<Sweetcake>thereisnothinginyoursorcecodeforabackgroundimage.̀just<BODY>nothingelsenotevenacolor..yourpageisgrey<Sweetcake>NightPattie!SessionClose:TueApr0121:33:221997 SessionStart:FriApr0419:52:211997  ***Nowtalkingin#Web-O-Crats***Retrieving#Web-O-Cratschannelinfo...***Joins:Java ***Troi-changestopicto"PrivateStudyGroupMeeting-MembersOnly...Please."***Retrieving#Web-O-Cratschannelinfo...  <Java>Yo  	 <Troi->Hi	   <Java>okthemeeding<Java>meeting<Java>kkillllll  	 <Troi->Yes..wehaveameetingstartinginabout10min..formembersof̀ourstudygroup	  
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 ***Joins:Lexa<Troi->HiSasha!<Lexa>Hi:)  ***Joins:Sava***Parts:Sava <Troi->So..whathaveyoubeenuptoSasha?<Troi->and,howareyoudoing?:-)<Lexa>I'mverys,eepyrightnow:(it's5:00AMhere<Troi->ohhhh..veryearly...<Troi->Itsonlyabout8:00pmhere<Lexa>buti'llwaitforothers<Troi->:)<Troi->Hey..beenmeaningtoaskyou..HaveyouplayedthatgamèTimeLapse?<Lexa>no,never....why?<Troi->Ithoughtthatswhereyougotyourimagemapfrom..<Lexa>hi...imagemapfrommypersonalhomepage?IgotanideaononèsitebutIdon'trememberwhere<Troi->Oh..Ithoughtyoumadeanimagemapforthehomeworkpage..̀maybeitwassomeoneelse.<Lexa>IthinkimagemapwasGeethasHW:)<Troi->ahhh..thatswhatitwas..sorry..:/<Troi->Gee..Iwonderwhereeveryoneelseis?<Lexa>IcanseeSteveonICQ<Troi->hmmm..Iguesshewillbeheresoonthen..<Troi->Jeffishere***Joins:Counselor<Troi->HithereJeff!!<Lexa>HiJeff<Lexa>brb<Counselor>Greetingsall!***Joins:D-Man***Parts:D-Man***Joins:js<js>hello?<Troi->HiJS..sorry..butwearetryingtohaveaclassmeetinghere..<js>oh***Parts:js<Troi->well,heleftniceenough..<Counselor>Dotheynotreadthetopicorsomething?<Troi->Idon'tknow..theymustbesomewhatilleterateIguess..:)<Troi->orisitilliterate?<Troi->LOL   	 @-(,   <Counselor>Idon'tunderstandhowtheycanfindthechannelnamèwithoutseeingthetopic...***Joins:who<Troi->Icanread..butsometimesmyspellingislacking..heheheh<Counselor>HowdyWho<Troi->HiWho!!<Troi->GreatSplashpages..<who>that'stheworstspellofweatherwe'veeverhad....GrouchoMarx<Troi->hehehe<who>iamhereundergreatduress...atthismoment<who>forgot...wifey'sbirthdaytoday<Troi->uhoh!!!<Counselor>Oops...<who>iamcookingherdinnerawaitingherarrival*/sound:Unabletofinduhoh.wav.wav*/sound:Unabletofinduhoh.wav<who>fortunatelythe'puterisadjacenttothekitchen<Counselor>Didyoubuyheragift?<who>sotypeLOUD***Joins:Sweetcake<who>ooops<Sweetcake>Helloeveryone..->[#Web-O-Crats]SOUND<who>flowersandmusicanddinner<Counselor>HowdyCarol...<Troi->HiCarol!!<Sweetcake>thanks..<who>!Troiuh_oh.wav<Counselor>Ihavethatwav...:)<Counselor>ItlauncheseverytimeIenterWindows.***Sweetcakechangestopicto"PrivateStudyGroupMeeting-MembersOnly...Please."<who>Troi:didthathappenautomaticallyordidyousendit?<Troi->Carol..Ialreadydidthattothechanneltopic..:)<Lexa>I'mback..HiCarolandSteve<who>SC:imusttellyou,irevisitedyoursiteforthefirsttimeinalong̀time<Troi->Wellwho..youtypedmynamewrong..soIjustsentitanyway..̀youforgotthe-attheendoftroi-<Sweetcake>IknowIwenttolookandseeifatopicwasset...andclicked̀bymistakethatiswhyitisthesamethingasyousetitto..:-)<who>itismagnificent<Sweetcake>HelloLexa<Troi->ahh..:)   	 @-(,   ***Joins:JerseyL<who>oh...iwaswonderingifmycatcherwasworking...i'lltryagainlater̀i'msure<Troi->HiLinda!<who>C:Heardfromanyofthestrays?<Sweetcake>Thanksforthecompliment..sadtosayIhavenotmadèmanyimprovementssincetakingthisclassthoughexceptforcreating̀thesidswall.<JerseyL>hiall<Lexa>HiLinda<Counselor>HowdyLinda<Sweetcake>IheardfromRobertandheisstillinandsaidhewouldbèheretonight..theonlystraywehavenotheardfrominalmostamonth̀andahalfisGeetha..Ithinkweshoulddeleteherfromthegroup..<Counselor>Ithinkeveryoneisaccountedfor...KarenandPaulhavèdropped.<Troi->IdidemailRobert(btw)saidhewouldtrytomakethemeeting..but̀notmuchelse..Hesaidtoleavehisstoriesuponourprojectpage..butÌdon'tthinkhehastimetoworkonit..soIhavedonesomeworkonit̀myself...Hehasbeensickwithabadcold..<who>ivoteaye<who>Troi-inoticedonesignificanttypo,wroteitdown,andlostit...butìwillrefinditifithasn'tbeenchangedyet...itwasinoneofthestorys<Sweetcake>IseeveryoneinfavorofdeletingGeethafromthegroup?Wèhavenotheardawordfromhersincebeforeoursurveysandhermeet̀thememberpageisalsoblankbecauseofthis..<Counselor>Yes,I'venotheardfromGeetha,soIthinksheshouldbèdroppedifshedoesn'tshowtonight.<Troi->Yes..IguessGeethashouldbedropped..<Lexa>finewithme<JerseyL>Iagree<Sweetcake>Idoubtitshehasnotshowedorwrittenanyemailsincethèendofassignmentnumber3Ibelieve.<Troi->Thankswho..Letmeknowwhichstory..Ionlyhaveaccesstoonèofthemontheprojectpage..therest,arelinkedtoRobertsserverand̀wouldhavetobecorrectedbyhim.<Sweetcake>Doeseveryonelikethechangesmadetoourmainpage?<Sweetcake>IthinkthepushandsplashpagescameoutgreatSteve..<Counselor>Who,ifyouhadaspeechsynth,youcouldjustturnthèvolumeupandlistenfromthekitchen.Wecouldallwishyourwifeàhappybirthdaythatway!<Troi->Yeah..Ireallylikethewaytheyareshapingupnow..<JerseyL>Theylookgood<Counselor>Wishherahappybirthdayfromusanyway...<Troi->Yes..HappyBirthdayMrs.Who..:-)   	 @-(,   <Counselor>I'lltrytocheckoutourpagetonight.<Troi->WhatelsedowehavetodobeforenextTues..?<who>shejustgothomeandwhenshefinishesbeatingmeshewill̀acknowledgeyourwishes<Sweetcake>Isthereanythingleftreallytodobeforeweturnthesitein?̀Whoisworkingonthe2assignmentslefttopostforourlastlesson?Ìthinkbesidesthese2thingsthatneedtolinkedyettoourpageis̀Steve'sNetscapepalletassignment.Ican'tthinkofanythingelse..<JerseyL>Wehavetofinishourpersonalprojectpages.<Troi->Ihaveworkedonmyprojectpagetodaysome..addedabunch̀morelinks..<Sweetcake>Ithinkoneassignmentforthistimeframethatstillhastobèdoneisademonstrationofanactuallyjavascriptthatsomeonehastòwriteandtheotherisanexplanationpageofhowtoinstallorinsertàjavascriptorappletintoapage.<Lexa>whataboutlastCHALLENGE4?<Troi->IguessIhavejustbeena"linking"foollately..findingtheonesfor̀ourGrouppageandmyprojectpage..LOL<Sweetcake>Jeffstillneedstoplacealinktohisprojectpageonour̀mainpageandhismeetthememberspage.<Counselor>Meetthemembers?WhatdoIneedtodoforthat?<Sweetcake>Challenge4fromthisassignmentistheoneaboutwritingàsimplejavascriptorappletandpostingit..Paulwasgoingtodothat̀assignmentbuthedroppedout.***Joins:Java***Parts:Java<Sweetcake>justplacethelinktoyourprojectpageonitandalsoplacèthesamelinkonthemainpage..that'sall..<Lexa>Challenge4is:AsagroupselectoneoftheonlineJavaScript̀tutorials<Troi->Yes..#4alsoinvolvedselectingaJavatutorialtoshowcaseit.<Lexa>Thismaybeeitheronethathasbeensuggestedoroneyouhavèlocatedonyourown.Individuallyreadoverit.Reviewwhatyouhavèlearnedwithyourgroupanddiscusswhatyoudidordidnotunderstand.̀Usingtheinformationyouhavelearned,attempttowriteabasicscript.<Sweetcake>YesLexathatistheonethathastobedone..Paulwas̀goingtodoitbutdroppedout.Writingajavascriptisovermyhead..<who>justburnttherice<Troi->Yeah..minetoo..andIdon'tthinkIcanlearnitinjustafewdays..̀unfortunately..<Counselor>Iwas/amgoingtodo#6whichistoexplainajavascript.<Sweetcake>WhohowistheNetscapepalletthingcomingalong?Doyoùhaveanythingatalltopostforit?Maybejuststealsomethingoff̀anotherpageandpostit..?<who>ihavean   	 @-(,   <JerseyL>Aren'tweallsupposedtoreadthetutorialandtrytofigureit̀outtogether?<Sweetcake>Lexadoyouknowhowtowritejavascript?<Counselor>Tecnnically,JerseyL,yes...<Lexa>no,icanjustcopyandpastethat:)))<who>onemomentplease<Counselor>Ifanyoneelsecanpickup#4itwouldbegreat...I'mnotsurèI'llahvetotodo#6andmyprojectbeforeTuesdayplus#4.<Counselor>time,thatis.***Joins:Carol<who>hereissomeverbagethatiwasgoingtoputonthe2nd(or3rd)̀splashpage...<Carol>HelloeveryoneIamback..Sweetcakeisaghost!!<Troi->HiCarolstwin..LOL<Troi->Iwillkickitforyoucarol..***Quits:Sweetcake(Connectionresetbypeer)<who>itwouldthengivetheviewerofgoingtothemtmsectionorthèconstructionzone(ourhomeworkandsourcesetc)<Carol>hehehe..myserverdisconnectedmeforsomereason..<Troi->well..itdidititself..LOL***CarolisnowknownasSweetcake<who>wordsfollownow...sodon'ttypenuttinfor30seconds<who>HaveyoueverlookedatWebpageandwonderedwhyorwhoor̀how?<who>Whowrotethispage?Howdidtheymanagetodoit?<who>Howdidtheylearnhowtodoit?Whydidtheychoosethistopic?<who>Thisprojectattemptstoanswersomeofthosequestions<who>andmorebygoing"BeyondHTML"andexploring<who>thepeoplebehindthepages.<who>Thesepagesweredevelopedaspartofaclassproject<who>forclass#825:Pagesthatmakeadifference,<who>outofSpectrum'sVirtualUniversity.TheWeb-O-Crats<who>areastudygroupofthatclass.<who>Clickheretoenterourgroupproject"MeetTheMembers",or<who>Clickheretoinv<Troi->Ithink2splashpagesareenough..Theverbagesoundsgood̀though..<Sweetcake>SoundsGREATtome!!!<JerseyL>Theverbageisexcellent.<who>lastfewsentences<who>.<who>Clickheretoinvestigateourgrouppages"BehindtheBeyond"<who>(workpagesthatexplainanddemonstratetheprocess<who>oflearninganddoingourproject)<who>(Ifyouareusingadialphonejustwaitandanoperatorwillbewith   	 @-(,   Ѐyouinamoment.)<Sweetcake>Maybeplaceitonthesecondsplashpage?Ithink2arèenoughalso!!<Counselor>Ilikethewords...they'reGREAT!But,Iagree2splashesis̀enough...<Troi->Iagree..<JerseyL>metoo<Sweetcake>Canyouplaceitonpage2Steve?<Sweetcake>IlikeitSteve!!<Sweetcake>brbgonnagrabacupofcoffee..<Counselor>Onethingweshouldbeconsideringiswhatwewanttodòwithourpageonceclassisover...<Troi->Yeah..Iwouldliketoleaveitupsinceitwillbeagreatsourceof̀information,butIthinkaftertheinstructorslookatit,wecanmovesomèofthelinksfromourhomeworkpagestotheresourcepagesanddeletèthehomeworksection.<Sweetcake>Maybesubmitthesitetothesearchenginessowewillhavèsomevisitors..<Counselor>Iagree....Iwasjustwonderingaboutthissincewe'venot̀madeanyplansforcommunicatingonceclassisover.<Sweetcake>DidanyonesignupforclassesfornextsemesterbesidèPattieandmyself?<Troi->Well,maybeweshouldmakeadateforapost-classmeetingtòfinalizewhatistobedonetothepageregardingleavingitup.<Sweetcake>WecanstillcommunicatebyemailandICQ..<JerseyL>IthinkImay,IknowIhavetilthe9th.<Counselor>Wecanalsosubmititasafeaturespageandget5MBdisk̀space...:)***Joins:OscarBoy***Parts:OscarBoy<Sweetcake>GoodideaJeff...IamalsoafeaturesiteatGeocities..<Sweetcake>The5megsisalotoffreespace!!<JerseyL>Whatisthenumberofthecourseyouarebothtaking?<Counselor>Yes,mypersonalpageisfeatured...wecouldprobablybèaccepted.<Sweetcake>Doesanyoneinthegroupknowhowtoactuallywriteordòjavascriptprogrammingalready?Doesanyoneknowofagoodonlinètutorialfortherestofustoread?<Sweetcake>Wearebothtakingtheadvancedhtmlclassandthègraphicsclass..<Counselor>I'venotsignedupforanythingyet...Imightbeterrificallỳbusy...I'mnowaCommunityLeaderin2neighborhoodsandGeo.<Troi->Iamtaking#831..GraphicandDesignShop...and#828Advanced̀HTMLAuthoringandWebPageDesign<Counselor>atGeo,thatis...andtheliaisonofoneofthem.   	 @-(,   <Sweetcake>831TheBeginner'sGraphicandDesignShop<Sweetcake>828AdvancedHTMLAuthoringandWebPageDesignIam̀takingthesameclassesalso..<JerseyL>Imighttake831,itdoesn'tseemasdemandingasthisone.<Troi->Yeah..CarolandIwillgettobepartnersagain..Ihope..:)<Counselor>I'dconsidered828,but831isoutofmyleague...:)<JerseyL>youcando831Jeff<Sweetcake>Thisclassdidnotturnoutthewaytheinstructorsexpected̀itto..thatiswhyitisnotbeingofferednextsemester..guesstheyarègoingtoworkontheformatoftheclassalittlebeforetheyofferitagain..<Counselor>They*really*needtoprovidesomeinstructioninthisclass.<Troi->Well,atleastthisclasshadmoreinstructionthanmywriting̀class..hehehe<Sweetcake>IwillsendyoutheinfoforICQ..Iforgottosendittoyou..Ìwillsendtheinfotoeveryoneiftheywishexceptforsasha&Stevewhòhaveitalready..<JerseyL>thanksCarol<Counselor>That'strue,Troi..Iwasinthatclasstoo..:(<JerseyL>SoCarolandPattiewillprobablytrytogetintoastudygroup̀together?<who>got5mins<Counselor>Actually,IdownloadedICQtheotherday,buthavenot̀installedityet.<Troi->Yes,turnedinmyfinalassignmentalmost3weeksago..and̀neverheardaword..don'tknowifIdidgood,bad...orwhat..<who>iwillneedtoreadlog<Sweetcake>IdidlearnquiteafewthingsinthisclassevenifIhadtòteachmyself!!BeforethisclassIdidnotknowhowtousePSPorcreatèanygraphicsnordidIeverytryborderpagesorjavascript&applets̀beforeorpushpagesetc.<Troi->IhopesoJersey...WhatdosayCarol..wanttobestudybuddies̀again..?:-)<Sweetcake>YeswilllookforyoualsoLindanextsemester..<JerseyL>OKwithyouPattieifIjoin<Troi->YeahLinda..ifyoutaketheclass..wecanregroupagain..:-)Ìwouldlikethat..<Sweetcake>Maybewhentheyaskforustoformstudygroupswecaǹpostamessageforastudygrouplookingforweb-o-cratsformer̀memberssoitwillbeeasiertofindeveryone.<who>which?<JerseyL>I'monlygoingtotake831,I'llsignuptonight.<who>whichis831?<Troi->GraphicsandDesign<Counselor>831isgraphics..828isadvancedhtml<Sweetcake>831isthebeginnersgraphicsclass.   	 @-(,   <JerseyL>Atleastwe'llhave3dependablepeople.Itwassortof̀disappointingthatourgroupdwindleddownto6.<Troi->well,itlookslikeRobertisnotgoingtoshowup....hmmmmmmm<Sweetcake>Imademyselfandmymothernewbannersforourpages̀theothernight..theycameoutprettygood.Ilinkedthemtomyborder̀pageHWassignmentincaseanyonewantstotakealook.<Counselor>NorisGeetha<who>DidourMTMbannerchangeorwasthatthemushrooms?<who>no...theBeyondHTMLthatis<Sweetcake>Iforwardedhisreplytometoeveryonesotheywouldseèthatheresponded...buthehasnotreallydonemuchworkforthegroup̀latelybutdoesnotwanttobeexcludedeither.<Troi->LOL..whatkindofmushroomsareyoueatingWho..?<Troi->IdidntseethatemaillCarol..<Lexa>ineedtogobacktobed,it's5:46amhere,mypersonalproject̀pagewillbeuptomorrow....bye...seeya***Quits:Lexa(EOFfromclient)<JerseyL>Idon'tthinkIdideither.<JerseyL>goodnightSasha<Sweetcake>Imadeanewone..theotheronewasanonlinethingImadèatanothersite..Itwasnotverygoodandwasquitealargefilesotook̀awhiletoload..Doyoulikethenewone?<Sweetcake>letmecheckPattie..<Sweetcake>I'llreforwardit..<Troi->ThanksCarol<Counselor>I'veanICQquestion...<Counselor>Itsaysintheinstructionsthatyouneedtobeonlinewheǹyouinstallit..isthattrue?<Sweetcake>Ijustreforwardedhismessagetomeandmyreply..ÌthoughtIdidbeforebutIdidnot..Itshouldbeinyourmailboxes̀momentarialy.<Sweetcake>OkJeffwhatisthequestionmaybeIcanhelporSteveor̀Lexasinceweallhaveitinstalled.<Counselor>Ijustaskedit..<Sweetcake>Ithinksotofinializesettingsandsuchandsetupinfo.<Counselor>Justconnected..butnobrowseroranything,right?<Sweetcake>foryouridnumberandstuffIbelieve.Yesjustconnected..<Sweetcake>YoucanhaveabrowserrunningIbelievebutnotsure..<Counselor>Ok,I'lltrytoinstallitthisweekend.<Counselor>Howeasywillitbetousefromthekeyboard?<Sweetcake>Idonotthinkyouneedtohaveabrowserrunning..don't̀remember..<Sweetcake>youmeanwithnomouse?<Counselor>Well,wheneverIcanIusethekeyboardratherthanthèmouse.   	 @-(,   <Counselor>MaybeIshouldaskthis...areiconslageled?<Counselor>labelled?<Sweetcake>WhatisLageled?<Counselor>lagelledwithtext,thatis.<Counselor>labelledwithtext...sheesh...<JerseyL>Pattie,whenyoudidyourpagewithsideborders,doyoùrememberwhereyougotthem?<Troi->hmm..letmecheck..Imaystillhaveitbookmarked.<Sweetcake>theiconscomeupinthestartthingatthebottomofthepagèwheretheclockis..firsticonisadetectorthatwaitsandlooksforàconnectiontotheinternetandthenitchangesintoaflowerwhenyouarèloggedon..aredflowerisonlinebutnotconnectedtoicqandit̀xchangestoagreenflowerwhenyouareconnectedtoicq..itisall̀automaticyoudonotneedtoclickonanythingtostarttheICQprogram.<Counselor>Hmmm....interesting...<Counselor>Well,I'llgiveitatry...<Counselor>So,didanyonevolunteerforchallenge#4?<JerseyL>Whatarewegoingtodoaboutchallenge4?<Sweetcake>whenyouwanttoactuallybringuptheicqprogramtoiniatèchatwithsomeoneyouhavetodoubleclickonthefloweratthebottom̀bytheclockandthendoubleclickontheonlinepersonwhichislisted̀thatyouwishtochatwithinthelittleboxthatcomesup..<Counselor>Ok,SC,thatmakessense.<Sweetcake>theboxshowyouwhoisonlinewhoisofflineofallthèpeopleyouhaveacceptedintoyouricqaddressbook.<Sweetcake>Doesanyonehaveagoodtutorialtoreadaboutjavascript?̀Ihaveonlycutandpastedjavascriptnevertriedtowriteit.<Counselor>Howdoyouaddsomeonetotheaddresssboook?<JerseyL>Theassignmenthadajavascripttutorialdidn'tit?<Troi->http://www.desktoppublishing.com/orbackleft.htmlhereisoneof̀theURL'sIhaveforsidebordersLinda..<Troi->Iguessmaybethiswouldbeagoodonetoputonourresourcèpage.undergraphics..<Counselor>IthinkStevementionedajavatutorialtoointhepast.<JerseyL>thanks<Sweetcake>Ibetitdidmaybeweshouldallgobacktotheassignment̀letterandreadanonlinethingandseewhatwecancomeupwithand̀seeifoneofuscanwriteabasicscriptandpostitbeforetuesdfay..<JerseyL>Ifoundthetutorial.<JerseyL>Maybeifafewofusreadit,wecouldtrytocomeupwith̀somethingtogether.<Sweetcake>LookslikequiteanimpressivebackgroundsitePattie!Ìbookmarkedit!<Sweetcake>What'stheURLofthetutorialLinda?<JerseyL>http://www.star.net/people/~robyoung/javatour.htm   	 @-(,   <Troi->Yeah..itsagoodsidebordersitecarol.<who>gotajavatut<Counselor>Isthatbordersitelistedinourresources?<who>justpassingbye<Sweetcake>JavaScriptfortheTotalNon-ProgrammerThetitalofthètutorialpagefitsmetoatee!Ithinkweshouldallreaditandseewhat̀wecando!!<Sweetcake>Don'tknowbutitlookslikeagreatonetopost!!Themorèresourcelinksthebetter!<JerseyL>I'llreadit.<Troi->NoJeff..Idontthinkthesiteislisted..butIwillbesuretopostit<who>sawagreatjavascripttoday...<Counselor>scriptortut,who?<Sweetcake>Iwillreaditalso..Iwillreadthetutorialtomorrow..Ìbookmarkedthepagetoreadit..maybeIwilllearnsomethingelsèbeforeleavingthisclass..<Sweetcake>Whatwasthejavascriptwho?<Troi->Ihavethejavasitebookmarkedtoo..IwilltryandseewhatIcaǹgetoutofittomorroalso.<Counselor>IfsomeonewillemailthatURLforthejavascripttutorialtòmeIwillreadittoo.<JerseyL>I'lle-mailittoyouJeff<Counselor>Thankyou..sorry..Idon'thavecutandpastehere.<Sweetcake>Ifitwasreallygreatcutandpasteit!makeasimplepagèwithitandlinkitundertheexamplethatIdidfor#3..Idonotthinkthèteacherswillmindifwehavemorethanoneexamplelistedundereach̀challenge..InfactIthinkitwillmakethesitethatmuchbetter..Ìrecommentanyonewhowantstotryachallengetodosoandthenlink̀theirpageontheHWpages..themoreexamplesofanassignmentthèbetter..<Troi->IjustemailedtheURLtoyouJeff..:-)<who>script..<who>iamliterallytypingbetweendishes<Counselor>ThanksTroi...ok,who.<who>timer...ooops...brusselsproutsburning<Troi->SorryJersey..wenttoemailitbeforeIsawyouweregoingtodòit..<Troi->YourwelcomeJeff.<Sweetcake>thiswayeachpersonwillalsolearnandtrymorethings..̀mostoftheassignmenteachpersononlygottodoonethingandIam̀surethereareotherassignmentthatpeoplewouldliketotrytolearǹsomethingfrom..<JerseyL>noproblem<Counselor>Burntriceandburntsprouts...whatagreatdinner...!<Sweetcake>Isthereanythinglefttodiscuss?   	 @-(,   <Counselor>Whatelseareyouburningfordinner,who?<Troi->Hmmm..IguessitmightbeagoodideatoputtheUrlfortheJavàtutorialonourJavaResourcespages..:-)<Troi->IwilltakecareofaddingtheURL'sforthesidebordersandthèJavaTutorialtoourResourcepagestomorro..<Counselor>regardingchallenge#6,IwasgoingtoexplainhowIdidthèbrowserchecklinebyline.doesthatsoundreasonable?<Troi->SoundsGreatCounselor..<JerseyL>soundsgood<Sweetcake>Iamgoingtocatcheveryonelater..gottarun.Tomwas̀awayinOklahomafor2weeksandonlygotbackrightbeforeclass..̀gonnagospendsomequalitytimewithhim.<Sweetcake>ThatsoundslikeagoodideaJeff..<Troi->Ok..carol..Seeyoulater..*Troi-saysGoodByeSweetcakeGodBless!!<JerseyL>havefun!<Counselor>GoodnightCarol...havefun!<Sweetcake>PattiecanyoupostthelogfromtonightsinceIamleaving̀early?AreyouorWhologging?<Troi->well,Ineedtogetgoingmyselfhere..ButIcanpostwhatIhave.<JerseyL>Iguesswemaycallitanight--seeyouTuesday<Sweetcake>okseeeveryonelater..willemaileveryoneafterIreadthèjavascripttutorial..<Sweetcake>nite..<Troi->Iwasthefirstoneheresoitshouldbecomplete<JerseyL>goodnight***Quits:Sweetcake(Connectionresetbypeer)<Counselor>Idon'tthinkwehaveanythingelseanyway...perhapswèshouldcallitanight.<Troi->okthen..GoodNightall..HaveapleasantWeekend..<Troi->Iwilltryandgetthelogupbytomorrosometime..***Quits:JerseyL(Leaving)<Counselor>'night<Troi->Bye.......*Troi-Troistepsintotheteleporter,wavesgoodbyetoallherfriends.But̀I'llbebacklater.GODBless!!!SessionClose:FriApr0421:16:391997