Genealogy Report for Thomas Gunning 1794(in Bitton, England)
(This is a chart showing the realationship for Thomas and Ann)
Generation No. 1
1. THOMAS1 GUNNING was born 1794 in Bitton, England. He married ANN GUNNING October 18, 1816 in Bitton, daughter of WILLIAM GUNNING and BETTY HULBERT. She was born 1785.
Notes for ANN GUNNING:
According to, "The Gunnings of Cold Ashton In Gloucestershire," by John Goulstone, Ann ?? 1785 who married Thomas Gunning 1785 is a Gunning also. Ann is the daughter of William Gunning of Bitton
and Betty Hulbert of Langridge, who married at Langridge in 1774. There is a bit of a question mark as to Thomas' partentage.
Children of THOMAS GUNNING and ANN GUNNING are:
2. i. GEORGE2 GUNNING, b. 1819, Betton, Glouster, England.
3. ii. THOMAS GUNNING.
iii. WILLIAM GUNING, b. 1822.
iv. ANN GUNING, b. 1825.
v. SARAH GUNING, b. 1832.
Generation No. 2
2. GEORGE2 GUNNING (THOMAS1) was born 1819 in Betton, Glouster, England. He married HESTHER STONE October 08, 1838 in St. Mary's Parish of Bitton County of Gloster.. She was born 1819 in Betton, Glouster, England.
Notes for GEORGE GUNNING:
Bap. Feb. 14, 1819, Bitton, UK.
Occ: Coal Miner
George and Esther maybe the parents of George, Luther, Thomas, Joseph and John, listed in the 1881 Census.
From: Vic Roberts < vroberts@neicomuk.co.uk >
Subject: Luther Martin Gunning
Date: Sunday, February 09, 1997
This was taken from the 1881 census.
Address / Name / Relationship / Condition / M or F / Age / Occupation / POB
Bromfield Row / George Guning / Head / Married / M / 26 / Coal Miner / Lanc. Berry
" / Sarah Guning / Wife / Married / F / 23 / Flints, Mold
" / Lilly Guning / Dau. / Unmarried / F / 1 /Flints, Mold
" / Peter Guning / Son / " / M / 2 months / Flints, Mold
Bromfield Cottage /George Guning / Head /Married / M / 62 / Coal Miner / Betton, Gloucester, England
Bromfield Cottage / Esther Guning / Wife/ " / F / 62 / Betton, Gloucester, England
" / Henry Guning / Son / Unmarried / M / 22 / Coal Miner / Lanc. Wigan
" / Luther Guning / Son / Unmarried / M / 15 / " / Flints. Mold
" / Thomas Guning / Son / Unmarried / M / 21 / " / Lanc. Wigan
Bromfield Yard / Thomas Guning / Head / Married / M / 35 / Coal Miner / Glauster, Bitton
" / Elizabeth Guning / Wife / F / 36 / Lanc. Chorley
" / Rachel Guning / Dau. / F / 13 / Scholar / Flints, Mold
" / George Guning / Son / M / 14 / " / "
" / Thomas Guning / Son / M / 11 / " / "
" / Margaret Guning / Dau. / F / 9 / " / "
" / James Guning / Son / M / 6 / " / "
" / Elizabeth Guning / Dau. / F / 2 / / "
" / Henry Guning / Son / M / 6 months / / "
Bromfield Yard / Joseph Guning / Head / Married / M / 21 / Coal Miner / Bristol
" / Elizabeth Guning / Wife / Married / F/ 23/ / Lanc. Pendleton
Bromfield Yard / John Guning / Head / Married / M / 32 / Coal Miner / Bristol
" / Jane Guning / Wife / Married / F / 30 / Flints, Mold
" / Sarah Ann Guning / Dau. / F / 12 / Scholar / "
" / Francis Guning / Son / M / 10 / " / "
" / John Guning / Son / M / 8 / " / "
" / Llewellyn Guning / Son / M / 3 / / "
" / Peter James Guning / Son / M / 7 months / "
I then looked in the Mold (Anglican Church) Baptism registers, and found:
October 8, 1865 / Luther, son of George and Ester Gunning (2 "n"s!) Bromfield Cottage, Mold. Father's Occupation: Miner.
No mention of "Martin". If Luther was married in 1883, he would only have been 18 - but that wasn't unusual for that time.
Children of GEORGE GUNNING and HESTHER STONE are:
4. i. LUTHER MARTIN3 GUNNING, b. 1865, Mold, Flintshire, Wales; d. Abt. 1938, Argoed, Wales.
5. ii. HENRY GUNNING, b. 1859, Wigan, Lancashire, England; d. 1932.
6. iii. THOMAS GUNNING, b. 1846, Wigan, Lancashire, England.
7. iv. JOHN GUNNING, b. 1849, Bristol, England.
8. v. GEORGE GUNNING, b. 1855, Bury England; d. 1907.
9. vi. JOSEPH GUNNING, b. 1860, Wigan, Lancashire, England; d. 1902.
10. vii. WILLIAM GUNNING, b. 1841.
11. viii. THOMAS GUNNING.
3. THOMAS2 GUNNING (THOMAS1)
Notes for THOMAS GUNNING:
(John and Mary Gunning, Ann's brother and sister-in-law)
Thomas was a labourer of Beach 1817-1832, Widower, agric labourer, aged 57 of Oldland in 1851 Census.
Children of THOMAS GUNNING are:
i. JOHN3 GUNNING, b. 1817.
ii. GEORGE GUNNING, b. 1819.
Notes for GEORGE GUNNING:
George Gunning 1819 - agric labourer of the Wood, Oldland
aged 20 in 1841; = Hester Stone; children:
i. William aged 1 in 1841 census
ii. Thomas b. Bitton 1846
iii. John b. Bristol 1849
iv. George b. Bury 1855
v. Henry b. Wigan 1859
vi. Joseph b. Wigan 1860
vii. Luther b. Mold 1865 = Catherine Louisa Davies 1883
There was a booklet privately published in 1991, titled "The Gunnings of Cold Ashton in Gloucestershire," by John Goustone. He traces your line back to John GONNYNG whose will was proved 27 Feb 1569-70. He goes back a few more generations but it is a bit more uncertain, from what I can make out.
His address is:
John Goulstone
10 Haslemere Road
Bexleyheath
Kent DA7 4NQ
At the time he wrote: copies of the Gunning booklet available for £3 incl. postage.
12. iii. WILLIAM GUNNING, b. 1821, Chippenham, Wiltshire, England.
Generation No. 3
4. LUTHER MARTIN3 GUNNING (GEORGE2, THOMAS1) was born 1865 in Mold, Flintshire, Wales, and died Abt. 1938 in Argoed, Wales. He married (1) MARGARET ?. He married (2) CATHERINE LOUISA DAVIES June 04, 1883 in English Wesleyan Chapel , Mold, District of Holywell, Flintshire, Wales., daughter of JOHN DAVIES. She was born 1864, and died 1918 in Mold, Flintshire, Wales.
Notes for LUTHER MARTIN GUNNING:
Occ: Coal Miner , then farmer (Luther owned/ran a farm in Mold )
Luther was a very unusual name at the time.
Mold Anglican Church Baptism Register: October 08, 1865, Luther, son of George and Hesther Gunning (2 n's) Bromefield Cottage, Mold, Flintshire, Wales.
*** The census check for 1881, there was only one Luther Gunning listed in the whole of the British Isles.
He is thought to have moved into the family home to take on the bills etc. after the unfortunate death of Mr. Jones in a roofing accident. The only things I know so far are that Mrs. Jones was only known as Nain Pentre, they were thought to have lived at 23, The Wylfa, Ruthin but I now feel this may have been in Mold actually on the way out to Buckley. Mary Frances Jones b 1904...with 2 sisters Margaret/Maggie and Winifred, and a brother John Huw . The story goes that Luther would not take on the children as well, so they had to go to a home/workhouse?? All we can say about Luther was that we have been told he was Irish and apparently a bit of a tyrant!! Speculation leads one to all sorts of conclusions that could be drawn from this, remembering that he would not take on the children which meant they were all split up at a young age ,then they were sent to St. Asaph workhouse. He was a Tyrant with a temper.
It is listed on his daughter, Catherine Gunning's birth certificate,(1889) that he was a Coal miner. Then on her marriage certificate, (1910) that he was a Farmer, and he was deceased. He would have been 18 in 1883 when he married Catherine Louisa Davies.
The 1881 census aged 15 living with parents and a miner, copy of marriage certificate he calls himself Luther Martin Gunning on that and a copy of the 1901 census showing daughter Catherine being born in Scotland. Luther married 3 times. His first wife Catherine Davies died and his second wife was called Margaret I have not found that marriage yet or Luther's burial. He worked all his life as a miner, moving from Mold to Leeswood 1912 and then to Nerquis 1935 and on to Argoed 1938. Age 73. But on Catherine and Charles Neesom's wedding certificate, (1910) it lists Luther as diseased.
There is an alternat date for Luther Gunning Married Catherine Davies 08.10.1865 Mold Parish Church
Notes for CATHERINE LOUISA DAVIES:
Catherine's parents nursed her till she died. Luther was having an affair while Catherine was ill and that he married at least 2 other women. Catherine was living at 8 Kings Street, Leeswood at the time of her death. She was 54. She was buried on July 24, 1918
At the time of her marriage to Luther, she was living at Bromfield Row, Mold.
More About CATHERINE LOUISA DAVIES:
Burial: July 24, 1918, Pondlyddyn Parish Church, Mold, Wales
Cause of Death: Cancer
Marriage Notes for LUTHER GUNNING and CATHERINE DAVIES:
Not much is known of Luther and Catherine. We do know that they lived on a farm in Mold, Northern Wales.
Children of LUTHER GUNNING and CATHERINE DAVIES are:
13. i. CATHERINE4 GUNNING, b. April 02, 1889, Wemyss, Scotland.; d. June 07, 1972, Manchester , England.
ii. ESTHER GUNNING, b. 1884.
14. iii. MARY LOUISA GUNNING, b. 1892.
15. iv. ALBERT GUNNING, b. January 06, 1898, Bromfield Yard, Mold, Wales; d. August 20, 1918.
v. JOHN HERBERT GUNNING, b. March 02, 1901.
vi. ALICE GUNNING.
Notes for ALICE GUNNING:
Went missing possibly white slave trade ?
16. vii. LUTHER GUNNING, b. 1892.
5. HENRY3 GUNNING (GEORGE2, THOMAS1) was born 1859 in Wigan, Lancashire, England, and died 1932. He married MARY ELLEN.
Notes for HENRY GUNNING:
Occ: Coal Miner
Children of HENRY GUNNING and MARY ELLEN are:
i. LILY4 GUNNING.
ii. LOTTIE GUNNING.
iii. CECIL GUNNING.
6. THOMAS3 GUNNING (GEORGE2, THOMAS1) was born 1846 in Wigan, Lancashire, England. He married ELIZABETH ANDERSON.
Notes for THOMAS GUNNING:
Occ: Coal Miner
Children of THOMAS GUNNING and ELIZABETH ANDERSON are:
i. GEORGE4 GUNNING.
ii. RACHEL GUNNING.
iii. THOMAS GUNNING.
iv. MARGARET GUNNING.
v. JAMES GUNNING.
vi. ELIZABETH GUNNING.
vii. HENRY GUNNING.
viii. LUCY GUNNING.
ix. SARAH GUNNING.
x. WILLIAM HENRY GUNNING.
xi. BENJAMINE GUNNING.
xii. HAROLD GUNNING.
7. JOHN3 GUNNING (GEORGE2, THOMAS1) was born 1849 in Bristol, England. He married JANE LLOYD.
Children of JOHN GUNNING and JANE LLOYD are:
i. SARAH ANN4 GUNNING.
ii. FRANCIS GUNNING.
iii. JOHN GUNNING.
iv. LLEWELLYN GUNNING.
v. PETER JAMES GUNNING.
8. GEORGE3 GUNNING (GEORGE2, THOMAS1) was born 1855 in Bury England, and died 1907. He married SARAH ?.
Children of GEORGE GUNNING and SARAH ? are:
i. LILY4 GUNNING.
ii. PETER E. GUNNING.
9. JOSEPH3 GUNNING (GEORGE2, THOMAS1) was born 1860 in Wigan, Lancashire, England, and died 1902. He married ELIZABETH ???.
Children of JOSEPH GUNNING and ELIZABETH ??? are:
i. MARY4 GUNNING.
ii. HANNAH GUNNING.
iii. JOSEPH GUNNING.
iv. EMMA GUNNING.
10. WILLIAM3 GUNNING (GEORGE2, THOMAS1) was born 1841. He married JOYCE ?.
Children of WILLIAM GUNNING and JOYCE ? are:
i. PETER4 GUNNING.
ii. MARGARET GUNNING.
iii. ESTER GUNNING.
iv. MARK GUNNING.
11. THOMAS3 GUNNING (GEORGE2, THOMAS1) He married ELIZABETH ?2.
Children of THOMAS GUNNING and ELIZABETH ?2 are:
i. ALICE4 GUNNING, m. THOMAS REGINALD NOWELS.
Notes for ALICE GUNNING:
Married an Army guy and lived on the Wirral, then eventualy to South Africa.
ii. LLEWAN GUNNING.
17. iii. FRANK GUNNING, b. 1901; d. 1980.
iv. PHILIP GUNNING.
Notes for PHILIP GUNNING:
Was a coach driver and lived in Rhyl ? with his wife and 6 children
v. OLIVER GUNNING.
vi. AMY GUNNING, m. TOM HOPWOOD.
Notes for AMY GUNNING:
Mostly lived in Bath.
Notes for TOM HOPWOOD:
He was a Vicar.
18. vii. STEPHEN GUNNING.
viii. DORA ISABELA GUNNING.
Notes for DORA ISABELA GUNNING:
Was in the Land Army in WWII. Married an airman (surname Guiver) who was killed in the war. She lived woth her In-laws in Southend until moving back with Tom. She looked after his 2 daughters.
19. ix. STEWART GUNNING.
x. WILLIAM THOMAS GUNNING.
xi. GEORGE GUNNING.
xii. HAROLD GUNNING.
Notes for HAROLD GUNNING:
Was killed in a motorcycle accident-hit a cow on the road.
xiii. ALFRED GUNNING.
Notes for ALFRED GUNNING:
Killed in WW1
20. xiv. THOMAS GUNNING.
12. WILLIAM3 GUNNING (THOMAS2, THOMAS1) was born 1821 in Chippenham, Wiltshire, England. He married ELIZABETH BRITTON in Bitton, England.
Children of WILLIAM GUNNING and ELIZABETH BRITTON are:
i. ELIZA4 GUNNING, b. 1846.
ii. ANN GUNNING, b. 1848.
iii. SARAH GUNNING, b. 1850.
Generation No. 4
13. CATHERINE4 GUNNING (LUTHER MARTIN3, GEORGE2, THOMAS1) was born April 02, 1889 in Wemyss, Scotland., and died June 07, 1972 in Manchester , England. She married CHARLES NEESOM April 30, 1910 in Chorlton Registration District, All Saints, Manchester, Eng., son of EDWIN NEESOM and ELIZABETH MATHER. He was born December 27, 1876 in Manchester , England, and died December 25, 1943 in Cheetham, Manchester, England..
Notes for CATHERINE GUNNING:
Marriage Notes for CHARLES NEESOM and CATHERINE GUNNING:
Catherine Gunning went by the name of "Kathleen Davies Gunning" until she applied for her Old Age Pension. It was then she discovered that her name wasn't Kathleen Davies, but Catherine Gunning.
She also found out at the same time, that her birth date wasn't Dec. 24, 1889, but that it was Apr. 2, 1889. She had no explanation for the discrepancies, and did not mention much about her family. We asume that this was done by her parents, so they wouldn't have to give her presents more than once a year. She never said if she had any siblings. She was very bitter about her family. She grew up on the family farm in Mold, Wales.
More About CATHERINE GUNNING:
Burial: Unknown, Manchester , England
More About CHARLES NEESOM:
Burial: December 31, 1943, Southern Cemetery, Barlow Moor Rd. Manchester, England.
Children of CATHERINE GUNNING and CHARLES NEESOM are:
i. ERNEST5 NEESOM, b. December 08, 1914; d. May 30, 1942, Germany; m. EDNA MAY ?, April 1942; b. Unknown; d. Unknown.
More About ERNEST NEESOM:
Burial: April 1946, Rheinberg War Cemetery, Germany
Notes for EDNA MAY ?:
Ernest and Edna were married only 6 weeks when Ernest was killed.
ii. DORIS KATHLEEN NEESOM, b. April 22, 1917, Manchester England; d. March 29, 1990, Manchester , England; m. SIDNEY JOHN JAMES YATES, Unknown, unknown; b. Unknown; d. Unknown.
iii. CHARLES HERBERT NEESOM, b. November 14, 1910, Manchester, England; d. March 17, 1984, Manchester , England; m. BERTHA WALSH, July 09, 1938; b. May 25, 1910; d. August 16, 1998, Stockport, Manchester England.
iv. FRANK NEESOM, b. March 20, 1921, Manchester, England.; m. IRIS STIDOLPH-SMITH HAMILTON, July 16, 1955, Peterborough, Ontario, Canada; b. May 07, 1930, Springburn, Glasgow, County of Lanark, Scotland.; d. November 10, 1998, Peterborough, Ontario, Canada.
14. MARY LOUISA4 GUNNING (LUTHER MARTIN3, GEORGE2, THOMAS1) was born 1892. She married SAMUEL EVANS.
Children of MARY GUNNING and SAMUEL EVANS are:
i. SAMUEL5 EVANS.
ii. BLANCH EVANS.
iii. HORACE EVANS.
iv. MARY EVANS.
v. IRIS EVANS.
15. ALBERT4 GUNNING (LUTHER MARTIN3, GEORGE2, THOMAS1) was born January 06, 1898 in Bromfield Yard, Mold, Wales, and died August 20, 1918. He married WINIFRED EVANS.
Notes for ALBERT GUNNING:
Occ. Coal Minner
More About ALBERT GUNNING:
Burial: Pondlyddyn Parish Church, Mold, Wales
Children of ALBERT GUNNING and WINIFRED EVANS are:
i. WINIFRED CORA5 GUNNING, m. ARCHIBOLD JOSEPH LANGTON.
ii. DORIS MARY GUNNING, m. LINDEN EDWARDS.
iii. SYBIL GUNNING, m. ALAN LEWIS.
16. LUTHER4 GUNNING (LUTHER MARTIN3, GEORGE2, THOMAS1) was born 1892. He married CATHERINE ROBERTS August 29, 1918.
Child of LUTHER GUNNING and CATHERINE ROBERTS is:
i. DENIS5 GUNNING.
17. FRANK4 GUNNING (THOMAS3, GEORGE2, THOMAS1) was born 1901, and died 1980. He married MARY HARGRAVES. She was born in Nelson England.
Notes for FRANK GUNNING:
Went to Bauger University to study maths. Taught in London, then moved to Lancashire before the War. He then moved to Flint in aabout 1942. He also taught at Kings School, Chester, then Holywell Grammar, then Flint Secondary Modern, before becoming Head of Maths Dept. at Kelsterton College when it was built.
Children of FRANK GUNNING and MARY HARGRAVES are:
i. JILL5 GUNNING, b. 1943, Bryn Tirion Hau, Bagillt.
Notes for JILL GUNNING:
Her younger brother and sister were born in Oakenholt, Flint, were they lived till moving to Mold (Bryn Belkan) in 1956. The three youngest (including Jill) went to Alvin Grammar School, Mold.
ii. ANN GUNNING, b. Lancashire, England.
iii. FRANK GUNNING, b. Lancashire, England.
iv. JOHN GUNNING, b. Lancashire, England; m. SHEILA ?; b. Hull, Yorkshire, England.
v. DAVID GUNNING, b. Lancashire, England.
vi. PETER GUNNING, b. Flint, Wales.
vii. MARGARET GUNNING, b. Flint, Wales.
18. STEPHEN4 GUNNING (THOMAS3, GEORGE2, THOMAS1) He married LYNN ??.
Notes for STEPHEN GUNNING:
Worked as a carpenter at Llay Main Colliery and lived in Caergaute ?
Child of STEPHEN GUNNING and LYNN ?? is:
i. BRIAN5 GUNNING.
19. STEWART4 GUNNING (THOMAS3, GEORGE2, THOMAS1)
Notes for STEWART GUNNING:
Worked at Llay Main Colliery.
He had 1 daughter, Renee, and adopted 3 boys, one was Micheal and the others were twins, Colin and Clive.
Children of STEWART GUNNING are:
i. MICHEAL5 GUNNING.
ii. COLIN GUNNING.
iii. CLIVE GUNNING.
20. THOMAS4 GUNNING (THOMAS3, GEORGE2, THOMAS1)
Notes for THOMAS GUNNING:
Was a bomber pilot in WWII. Then he became a teacher, (wood work) and lived in Southend before returning to N. Wales in the '50's where he lived in a flat in Frank's house at Bryn Bellan, Gwernatfield. He taught in a school in Chester.
Children of THOMAS GUNNING are:
i. ANNETTE5 GUNNING.
ii. PATRICIA GUNNING.
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