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Issue 212
Monday 19th August 2002
(amended 20/8/02)

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Oxford Bus keeps the wheels turning


A piece in The Oxford Times this week reported on the flash floods which struck Oxford on Friday 9th August.
Here we see Oxford Bus Volvo 643 on 4 road easing its way under Botley Road Rail Bridge.
Photo courtesy
Jon Lewis of Newsquest Oxfordshire

Welcome to issue 212 and news of flooding in Oxford. This week's page also has another excellent selection of photos from Brian Matthews of Witney, fast becoming my most prolific photographic contributor each week.

Well another year has gone by and I've been to Cardiff again with the Bowls Club. Fate smiled on us this year and the Oxford Bus team won for the first time in three years against Cardiff Bus Bowls Club. Lady luck smiled again and we also had a very comfortable coach for our trip this year with nr 21.

The coach is seen above at Cardiff main bus station, with The Great Western Rail Station in the background. I took the opportunity to look inside this year and was most impressed with the decor and general air of this listed building.

There is always something quite special about this period of architecture and Cardiff Station is no exception.

Cardiff Bus is now home to one of largest collections of Dennis Darts outside London. I was told that double decks are out and that the smaller Darts are now top of the popular stakes, especially since vandalism has dropped significantly. I also noted the very clear electronic destination blinds, the best I have seen to date. The quality can be seen below. The latest batch of Darts, of which this is one, features both short and long versions of the model.

The return journey to Oxford was delayed by the closure of the M4 between junctions 18 and 17 and consequent traffic congestion all the way from Bristol. We therefore diverted towards Monmouth and Gloucester for the return and ran back into Oxford through Farmoor. Surprisingly the running time was not that much more than using the M4 motorway.

Ralph Adams wrote saying "I went to Kidlington today (Thursday) and stopped at Silo Park & Ride. The traffic signal control were due to start preparatory work today on the main road. 2 diggers were in place in the parking area to remove the top soil, part for landscaping afterwards, and part for removal. The first half for 400 cars is due to open in November for Christmas peaks, with the second 400 spaces by January, complete with waiting room, toilets, etc. and the site manager feels the timetable will be kept. Security staff will be on duty 24 hours a day to stop unwelcome caravans till January."

Ralph goes on to say "Oxford, having started Park & Ride, has fallen behind others towns which have far better presented Park & Ride e.g. Ipswich, York.  Perhaps with the County rather than the City controlling this one we will see further advances."

"The Silo itself is apparently now empty with the last occupants just gone. It is planned to demolish the landmark, so what name will the Park & Ride be called. No doubt some historians will want a preservation order on the monstrous building. It will be difficult to redevelop however in green belt area."

Next weekend I will be in Blackpool and once again the update will be on Monday, a Bank Holiday!

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News of the local companies - 19th August 2002

Arriva serving The Shires & Essex


Recently transferred from Arriva north West, 2416 works a Saturday 260 service towards Aylesbury.

Nigel Peach writes "Tues 13th: I bumped into an old acquaintance in the bus station. As we commiserated with one another about the recent deterioration of services we observed that so many buses now do not show a destination and/or a route number. One bus, Volvo B6 3115 had just a piece of paper in the windscreen saying it was on the 310. We wondered if Aylesbury knew beforehand that the DW Darts they got from Wycombe do not have individual number blinds. It's fine if they are on the 331 or 332, but if they stray from there, as they inevitably will....

As you reported, ex Oxford Marshall Dart 3833 is back. It was working the 363 today.

I was told that ex Wycombe Lynx 3809 has joined sister 3808 at Carousel. It is currently up at Wycombe Air Park awaiting repaint. Presumably they will
then run the 333 & 334 on which Abbey Coaches are currently running.

There seems a tendency since the merger of the depots to run the 5 NCME Olympians on local ex NBS routes. It does seem odd seeing them in places
like Flackwell Heath and they even appear at times on the 303 and 326 routes.

Unusual working early Tues evening: Merc Vario Minibus 2196 R196 DNM on the 301 Flackwell Heath route.

Thanks again for all your hard work on the Page every week."


Steve Warwick wrote "
Sat 18th Aug  -  Volvo Olympian 5158 is on loan to NBS for the weekend to cover for PH on Sunday.

Greenway 3044 is also at NBS observed it on route 300 on Friday."

Newman Morgan, having read his LOTS magazine notes "LOTS also reports the following changes in Wycombe from 28-7-02:- 300, 317, 329, schools 613, 675, contracts 955, 956 minor t/t changes. Funny thought schools were closed!

327 withdrawn and 307 rerouted every 30 mins via London Road, Hatters Lane, Hicks Farm Rise, Roebuck Avenue, St Hughs Avenue, Hicks Farm Rise, Hatters Lane, London Road.   Well some of us remember this as more or less the good old LCBS 365.

333, 334, 346, schools 617, 618, 621 all to Carousel

232, 323, 324, 331, 332, contract 947 transferred to Aylesbury depot

353 (all), 362/372 (part) reallocated to the new Amersham outstation which is quoted elsewhere in the Magazine as being the council yard in Olde Amershame. This is NOT the Car Park next to Tesco and behind the site of the old LCBS depot. The Council Depot is further along opposite Tesco. However the LBM also refers to the Car Park next to Tesco. I wonder if AtS still use the minute rest room in Old Amersham by the Memorial Gardens stop? It was certainly used up to Jan 2001.

364 remaining schools journeys withdrawn

653, 655, 963 all withdrawn"

Chiltern Queens, Woodcote.

Brian Matthews writes again, this time enclosing the two pictures reproduced below.

Following the recent views of the Chiltern Queens fleet here are a couple from the seventies.... 

AEC  474FCG at Britwell Salome in 1976......and AEC  EUD256K leaving Reading for Didcot in 1975.

Various of you have written regarding the apparent demise of Chiltern Queens.

Mac H wrote "Over the last four months there has been much comment within Yahoo Fleet News re Chiltern Queen, most of which seems to have originated from local newspaper reports.

The following has been received from a very reliable source (a PSV Circle area editor) - Chiltern Queens has not been taken over by Horseman Coaches; it would appear that around mid-April, 2002, Keith Horseman and others joined the board of Chiltern Queens at the invitation of the company's owners, all
other directors having resigned. Their remit was to turn the company round and stem the losses it was incurring.

The local press must have assumed the take-over would be a formality. The Traffic Commissioners obviously had other ideas!

Rob Willaims of Bus Zone wrote to say "
Notices inside Chiltern Queens MPD KP51 SXU last week advertised that a new timetable commenced on the Reading/Woodcote service from Monday 12th. The notice also advises that timetables are available from the driver, and indeed they were. The service is still being operated under the Chiltern Queens name, and the Dart retains full Chiltern Buses jazzy purple livery and CQ Woodcote legal lettering."

Oxford Bus (City of Oxford Motor Services)  http://www.oxfordbus.co.uk


Coach 21 shares a parking area in Cardiff Bus Station with the local operators Darts.

Steve Annells writes "Noted this about teatime at Worthing, 28 July, the day of the Worthing Rally.  Appallingly hot weather/two irritable toddlers, so didn't get close enough to check the owner, but it had no fleet names.  Former Oxford Bus E132YUD, DAF/Plaxton, collecting day trippers by the look of it."

Ken Lansdowne writes "I have the operator of this as Seaview Travel of Rochford, one of only two > vehicles owned. It seems unlikely to be a Jubilee special."
 


Steve Annells sent this shot of ex Oxford Citylink coach 132.


Last week I mentioned that 802 had an electronic destination display. He it is at Cowley Rd Garage.
The blind was in operation proclaiming Cowley Bus Garage 5.

Neil Gow writes "It's my week off this week, so here's a summary of sightings so far.

Firstly though, your correspondent who saw an Olympian on Greater Leys road last week was quite right.  It was on the afternoon/evening peak extra journeys of 5B - I forget which day.  It was rare - only the second time I've seen on Olympian on this road and I see all three cars almost every day. 

Monday/Tuesday/Wednesday there has been an Olympian out on all day working of 5 road each day.  On Monday there were two on 5 road at the same time when 214 came out for the afternoon 5L card working too, but this card seems not to have run on Tuesday and Wednesday.  Other Olympian workings have been an all-day card on 2 on Wednesday and various peak hour extras on 13 and 35.  The best one though was 221 on Herschel Crescent shoppers service 18 on Wednesday.  This is another unusual occurrence, only the second time I've seen it.  There is a length restriction in the Herschel Crescent, Bodley Road area because of parked cars, so when the rostered Marshall bodied Dart isn't available an Olympian would become the next choice.  Still, with a 74 seat bus provided on a service that never takes more than three passengers, they had plenty of choice of seats." 


 Neil Gow mentions the use of Olympians on the 5A/B routes and here 208 is at work last Friday afternoon.

Nigel Eggleton, Commercial Director of Oxford Bus wrote to advise that "Today we have a B12B/Jonckheere from Volvo and a DAF SB4000/Van Hool from Arriva. Neither are registered and hence are on trade plates - both apparently straight off the production line. They will be departing today."

(It would appear that these are further offerings from the manufacturers in view of a potential order for new coaches next year. Ed.)

Stagecoach in South Midlands & in Oxford

Neil Gow says "Thames Transit seem to be resting their Oxford based Olympians.  Haven't seen either of the ex London models out or any of the old ECWs apart from 500 on a crew ferry still showing Banbury route number B2."

Ketih Wood wrote "News from Rugby is that Dart 102 has received new livery and looks very smart indeed. Also at Rugby are Mercs 420 and 524 from Leamington although neither were in service. It may be that they will be used on the new Rugby - Leamington corridor services which are being extensively revised from 2/9/02.

A definite transfer is Olympian 962 from Leamington. This was the last "Native" ECW Olympian at
Leamington and ends a reign which at one time saw 901-909 A541-549 HAC at Leamington and 960-964 B960/961 ODU C962-964 XVC at Stratford. These vehicles ran most services on the Stratford - Leamington - Coventry corridor and Stratford - Birmingham corridor. 960-964 have coach seats for longer journeys and would have had MRS Local Coach Livery, Stratford Blue Livery and Stagecoach Stripes during their lifetime. (
These liveries have already been covered in these page Ed.)

For the record
Rugby still has 902 / 903 / 904 / 910 / 911 / 912 & 962 and all are regulars on Rugby - Leamington services as well as school runs.

Nuneaton Volvo B10M 209 has received new livery. There are now 96 vehicles confirmed in new livery."

Neil Gow wrote again "Stagecoach Oxford Olympian 500 is back from Banbury and currently based at Oxford running crew ferries, still displaying B2 in its number blind so presumably it got a run out on that route whilst at Banbury."

Ralph Adams writes "Stagecoach 500 (Leyland Olympian) has moved from store at Banbury to active at Oxford (BRS), although not needed with Brookes holidays at present Volvo Olympian 529 is not at present at Oxford."
 


The single door conversion, 524, running out of Oxford, Witney bound last Saturday.


Dart 712 lacks the usual fleet number for new liveried buses. Seen here on The City Circle.


In the late afternoon shadows, Dart 779 waits time in St Aldates as does Tappins 303 on a city tour.


Regular correspondent Jin Wright operates a Woodstock service last Saturday with Dennis 901.


Stagecoach up from Swindon on the 66. Dennis Dart 943 leaves Oxford, homeward bound.


Also homeward bound, however eastwards rather than westward, UCOC 697 still resplendent in the old stripey livery.

Tappins of Didcot (including City Sightseeing, Guide Friday and The Oxford Classic Tour)


Another addition to the Oxford tour fleet is 129, most recently in Cambridge.


Fleetline 217, one of the longest serving buses in the tour fleet, gets an engine look over by its driver last Saturday.

Thames Travel, Wallingford


Vario 846 works a 107 service from St Aldates to The John Radcliffe Hospital last Friday.

Thames Valley Traction (Historical)

Newman Morgan, having read the page last week adds his suggestion to those already expressed as to the location of TV Lodekka 811. Newman says "That photo of TVT 811. I think Ed Maun is right, it ain't on the West Wycombe Road because the road is too narrow. The bay windowed houses are very WWR but the large house immediately behind 811 together with the stone wall isn't WWR.

The photo isn't West Wycombe, Piddington, Studley Green or St. Okenchurch (as a late uncle who once lived there always called the place).  [And no - Studley Green wasn't St. Udleygreen] By a process of elimination, the fact that the driver isn't on board and there is a distinct lack of passengers downstairs, I reckon the bus is laying over in Watlington. I'm pretty sure that upon arrival in the centre of Watlington the 39 did a right turn then a left turn to stand. I can't remember the name of the road but it featured in timetables as the terminus. Leaving the terminus I think the bus would do two left turns to run up main street, Watlington.

Any more suggestions from other readers???" 
concludes Newman.

I love the nicknames for the local villages used above.

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PHOTO CORNER
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This week I include a few shots taken in Cardiff. Certainly on a Sunday this is Dart city.
First a National Express offering.


A late Y reg Plaxton Paragon works the 304 service toward Weymouth from Oxford last Saturday.


Passing inbound from the south is north bound Selwyn's Expressliner R71ECA, with final destination Birkenhead.


Like Oxford, Cardiff are putting Lynx's into training roles with a new livery.
Here 257, G257HUH rests up in the garage yard.


One of Cardiff's Y reg Dart SLFs. 381 is leaving the bus station en route to a local suburb.


 10,000 Jehovah's Witnesses visited Cardiff on Sunday and a Park & Ride service was provided by
Cardiff Bus from The Millennium Stadium. This was run by 6 elderly Volvo Ailsas of which 405 is seen here
leaving the garage. These buses have a very striking sound when on the move.

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