Nothing magic about the pipes... you might as well use ordinary brake line steel tubing. Easier to install as two pieces per side also- to get nice bends & amke it neat looking. Another alternative is the plastic high-pressure line. It is very easy to run and looks good. The oiler works fine. I would only oil it right after startup- to keep hot oil from washing the grease. Grease fittings work fine also. We have come a long way as far as lube technoligy and I believe that had the present day lubes been available- the car would prbably have come with grease fittings rather than the oiler. Fred Sisson ----------------------------------------------------- Gents; If you wish to have an insight into how various U.K. owners view the controversial subject of front suspension lubrication, look up: http://www.itmc.co.uk/morgan/grease.htm Perhaps this advice would apply less to the owners of older cars whose life-blood is 20W50, but I can't think why. Willie NAS 4.0 Plus 8, trying patiently to await the build of the car in (NOW) Jan.-Feb. when all the North American specs are finalized. (Originally build was to have begun in July-August). At 01:54 AM 12/1/97 +0000, you wrote: >The '58 Plus Four I'm restoring is missing all it's self oiling system pipes. > My first Mog, an early '58 bustle back Plus Four, (purchased as a wreck >when I was a young lad of 18 in 1964) was also missing it's self-oiling pipes > In their place, a couple of zerk fittings were located to allow the sliding >pillars to be greased. I later found a set of pipes on a Morgan in a junk >yard (Mogs were actually junked in those days), which I installed on my Mog. > My recollection is they made rather a mess, with gobs of oil all over the >front suspension. What's the collective wisdom regarding self-oiling >systems? Should I purchase the pipes and reinstall the system, or is there a >better way to oil the sliding pillars? What's your experience, Mog owners? > >Bill Wilkman >Wildbil923@aol.com ---------------------------------------------------------- At The Engine Room we have developed a kingpin process that will last for over 100,000 miles without any rebuilding or replacement of parts so long as the grease fittings installed by the factory are lubed at least every 1,500 miles. On my own +4, the original kingpins and bushes were worn out by 16,000 miles from new. They were replaced by our improved, hardchromed and centerless ground kingpins and bushings. Two years ago, at about 105,000 miles, I replaced the bushings. The kingpins whjowed no signs of wear! The bushings were just slightly worn. I drive my car VERY hard. There were 50 odd race weekends on racing tires plus 85,000 miles of hard street driving on these parts. Its a do it once and forget it job! Regards, Greg Solow -----Original Message----- From: Kit Hildreth <krisbox@hotmail.com> To: lambroving@worldnet.att.net <lambroving@worldnet.att.net> Cc: morgans@autox.team.net <morgans@autox.team.net> Date: Friday, March 05, 1999 10:17 AM Subject: Re: One Shot wonders >Back to Morgans & things! When I >bought my +8, it had been fitted with grease nipples instead of the >oil-shot gear and Libra Motive used 90 wt Hypoid oil. They reccommended, >and I've followed faithfully since, to squirt some more 90wt into the >nipples @ every oil change. As a result, the kingpins last @ least >25,000miles and I'm getting close to 30,000 since the last set. So >obviously it's not something that you can just "fire and forget". But >that certainly beats the 15,000 miles that appears to be the norm for >the standard set-up, so for me, it's well worth it. By the way Willie, >you know that once you'e passed the DOT/EPA thing, you can remove all >the "junk" except for the smog stuff once you've registered your >vehicle, unless of course, you're planning to emigrate to Maryland! So >just get panels made up and then install the std UK "bumpers" (If >they're like mine; they're "ally" and totally useless functionally!) >Cheers & keep on moggin' >Kit