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Time 16:24, 15 Oct 1998
From ERIC
Vic,
lest make a secret site for us...some shit we dont want to post about were
ANYONE can come read....lets make a
site that only people we check on and like can
enter......its not fully safe...but
it would be safer than here
at leats they would have to make friends
with us and prove themselves before we allowed
them into our spot.....i mean nothing
is 100% but hey..we spend all day talking about
improving our growing skills...why dont
we spend a little more time protecting
ourselves..our friends..and our investments...ya
dig?
Time 18:10, 14 Oct 1998
From crane
Hi Vic, and everyone else, I got back
from my vacation just in time for 3 thanksgiving
dinners... excellent luck! We came back
earlier than planned, but I had a great time. Now
to get my hands back in the dirt.
Has anyone seen lothar around lately?
If you see this L, there's an annoying little plea in
your mail box ;-)
OT1>> Thanks again for the info on Bio
Bizz, now that I'm back I will be looking into
that. I got the impression that you
thought I'd have better luck waiting for them to start
selling it in north america on their
own, but it can't hurt to try right?
Square pots >> If you don't find any,
you could try this... I only tried it on one pot, but it
worked okay. It won't increase the volume
of the pot, but it'll let you fit more pots in the
same area. I guess you could use bigger
pots, which would give you more volume but
the same number of plants:
Take a regular round plastic pot and
heat it in the oven till it gets nice and flexible then
form it yourself into a square. Building
a small jig/form out of plywood would probably
help here as you have to hold it that
way till it cools. I just squished the one I did between
some bricks.
I know it's a cheapo solution, but if you've already got the round pots, why not?
Good luck guys.
Time 17:39, 14 Oct 1998
From jeremy
nice link spliff, they seem to have it
all.
ot1, i dont know where to order square
buckets from. fortuneately for me i get them
locally from a guy who sells buckets
(i'm serious).
but now that i think about it, the buckets
are used for strawberries cuz they are
sometimes stained still and labelled
on occasion as being strawberries. so if you check
out some fruit vendors for bulk or something
maybe you can find em. good luck
Time 13:00, 14 Oct 1998
From ERIC
HEY!!!!
you mean thats not genetic but is a
curing trick.....do you know how they cure to get
that smell
Time 11:25, 14 Oct 1998
From stix
Eric>>"breeding for taste and smell
the only way im going to be able to do this is to grow it to maturity and
keep records of which plant
is more fragrant right???????
that means smelling the leaves as the plant grows....then take clones from
each one throughout the
year and flower and test...and eliminate anything that isnt fragrant
right?????
so im going to have to pick the most fragrant male too.....
sssssssssshit.....i need a football field to do this man.....
any ideas will be appreciated"
stix replies- hehehe, thats why id rather
buy the seeds and why I respect the successful
breeders so much!! It aint as simple
as it first sounds! And its also why a good seed
should cost so much money, it takes
time, space and work! Eric i got some of that choc.
thai bout ten years ago. When grown
out, it wasnt choc but what a plant! Branches grew
upwards instead of horizontal, got so
heavy with bud the weight would split them from
the stem. Grew a lime-green color, potent,
potent and potent. Smell reminded me of cat
piss more than anything. I dont know
if I would cross it with anything if its same as I
had and you're gonna grow outdoors,
I dont know if it could be improved that much, it
was my alltime favorite outdoor variety.
I would test the viability of the seed you have,
cause the curing process that make it
"chocalate" can sometimes kill the seeds. Try a
couple to see if they germ before too
much time goes by.
Vic>>Read with intrest a comment you
made on another board bout Dutch Genetics. As
a long-time friend of Dutch varieties,
I didnt order any for bout 7-8 years, started
ordering again bout 1and a half years
ago, mostly old varieties I'd tried in past and liked.
What Im finding is the strains appear
to be "tired" or something. The hybrids just dont
have the vigor and "zing" they did 10
years ago. Could this be that after so long they're
getting so many common genes? Or are
the strains just running out or am I just getting
old. Whats your opinion? Im in the process
of finishing up on latest batch of orders and
am going to try some of yours, Ncga,
and Bros Grimm products to compare in coming
months.
Time 07:01, 14 Oct 1998
From Spliff
ERIC.. If the original mom is closest
to what you want you should take pollen from the
first seed batch and repollinate the
original mom. After 3 or 4 seed crops from the same
mom, most plants will be nearly identical
to the original.The process is called
cubing. You can ask Mr. Soul for more
info on the general indoor forum at LM.
Time 06:58, 14 Oct 1998
From Spliff
ot1... Don't know about order from the
states but here is a place with containers you
may be interested in.
http://www.discountgarden.com/growingcontainers.html
Time 06:51, 14 Oct 1998
From ERIC
ok..once i find the perfect most fragrant
mother and father....i will take clones from
each.....save those clones..properly
marked and tagged..then
get as much pollen saved as possable
and then pollente the shit out of the
mother....take all the seeds...and then what do it
again..or do i cross the resulting best
female with the pollen from dad.....or vise
versa...best resulting male ...pollente
with clone from mom....
i want to stabalize the strain of the
the most fragrant chocalate before i cross.....
so tell me guys what would you do if
you were me
Time 05:34, 14 Oct 1998
From ERIC
ITS GONE!!!!!!!!!
no more tia......all gone...and there
is no more coming either...got hooked up last
night...not tia.....not half as good.....its
more harsh....
FUCK
but i have about three hundred seeds....so
i have got to be careful.....ok
guys...now....what i want to do is keep
this strain as close as possable to what it is
now,,,,which means...im going to HAVE
TO breed for taste and smell....
thats the only two traits i HAVE to
keep
now sure potencey would be great....but
i think it was potent enuff to even if i lose some
potency it will be ok..as long as i
keep the taste and smell....once i stabalize it i will make
a good cross or
2 or 3 and then we got a product.....
ok
breeding for taste and smell
the only way im going to be able to
do this is to grow it to maturity and keep records of
which plant is more fragrant right???????
that means smelling the leaves as the
plant grows....then take clones from each one
throughout the year and flower and test...and
eliminate anything that isnt fragrant
right?????
so im going to have to pick the most
fragrant male too.....
sssssssssshit.....i need a football
field to do this man.....
any ideas will be appreciated
Time 00:11, 14 Oct 1998
From oldtimer1
Jeremy I’m looking for square pots 7
x 7 x 9.5 inches high if you point me in the
direction of a manufacturer or retail
out letI would be most interested.
Thiswould give me the best soil to space
ratio at 2.4 plants per sq ft my ideal
spacing. There is a company in the uk
that uses this type to market roses but had
them manufactured holds a patenton the
mould and design. My Co-op needs 300
of them and I’m blowed if I'm going
buy enough roses to plant a 1/4 of an acre. All the
best Ot1.
Time 16:56, 13 Oct 1998
From jeremy
thanks eric and ot1, i'll take both of
your advice and let you know how it works out.
ot1, yes i use 3 1k lights on a 6' Suntrac
w/ 10' parallel bar.
i'll let ya know how much i end up with.
this is my first harvest with these bigger
buckets. i was using 6" squares and
averaging a little over 50 grams per sq. ft.
Time 01:44, 13 Oct 1998
From oldtimer1
dognuts That doesn't rate at all in history
class here but I have seen something in in an
Addams family movie. It makes more since
now. We brits go to America get chucked
out later then don't talk about it typical!
Looked at wall-marts web site and couldn't
find a garden section so don't know what
they are like.
The main thing Is that your tank can
hold enough to water all the plants in one go. That
the main feed pipes are big enough to
get the water to all your small pipes to pot at the
same time in your case 3/4 inch should
do then tee off to each pot in 1/8 inch. Last but
most importantrather than drippers or
woodpeckers you need flood pins/stakes.
They are a spike that you push into
the soil with a small cage at soil level it has an input
nipple with a bore of just over 1/16
of an inch and its virtually impossible to block. when
you turn the water on it floods out
of the cage watering without disturbing the soil. We
have tried conventional drippers, adjustable
and woodpecker drippers and come to that
seep hose with organic nute’s they block
and as you know trying to unblock a dripper in
the middle of 3 or 4 ft plants 2 or
3 ft in means ripping the whole thing apart and not
recommended. The only other thing I
would say that when feeding mix your fert’s fresh
strain through some old tights so there
are no lumps put into your tank stir and let it
down straight away.
Hope this helps. Ot1.
I assume you are using a min of 3 k
of lighting for this area that should be producing a
minimum of 3 k of top bud and with good
cultivation nearly double! Thats a lot of bud!!!
Time 17:47, 12 Oct 1998
From toker2
www.wal-mart.com
Time 17:11, 12 Oct 1998
From ERIC
its in the gardening section...very simple
and cheap...i am incorporating it....like i said if
you use a little brain you can make
it work in any application
Time 16:40, 12 Oct 1998
From dognuts
eric, whats the name of it? what section
of walmart is it in?
ot1, 10" X 10", 8 rows=80" or 6.6.feet
11 rows=110" or 9.6 feet
Thanksgiving? are you pulling my leg?
its a holiday that was designed to honor the
pilgrims who landed at Plymouth Rock
and the "Indians" who helped and taught them to
live in the wilderness. Whatever it
is for, people make some HUGE meals to celebrate it
and i like to get nice and stoked while
waiting for the food to be done.
BTW, approximately 20 yrs after the
pilgrims landed at Plymouth Rock, they massacred
the Pequot "indians".
Time 13:05, 12 Oct 1998
From ERIC
I dont know Olt1
i was in there yesterday and looking
at their set ups...they are very simple...
Time 11:15, 12 Oct 1998
From oldtimer1
ERIC does walmart have a url ??
dognuts 8 across 6.5ft makes the pots
9,75 inches and 11 pots in 9 ft makes the pots just
over 8 inches if they are are 16 inches
deep they still hold about 20 litres each or
according to t2, 5 of your gallons.
Question are you pulling my chain!I can not
explain in much more detail than I have
I could take photos but would have to send or
post them.Ot1
By the way what is thanksgiving?
Time 09:50, 12 Oct 1998
From ERIC
dognuts.....
walmart has a kit that would work for
you.....it has everything...but you will need more
tubing.....will that not work for you....it
is designed to water 25 plants...the timer has a
custom programming data base...very
easy to use....and it cost $25.00
timer is $40.00
and it works very well
Time 20:35, 11 Oct 1998
From dognuts
ot1, i cant really picture the setup
exactly.
i also dont think my buckets hold 25
litres either. maybe 10-12 litres.
the buckets use a 9'X6.5' area. 8 rows
of 11buckets. i want to automate the feeding
using organic ferts and need some ideas.
Time 15:32, 11 Oct 1998
From west coast
vic highcan you give me youre opinion
on pacific north west garden supply. peace
and out
Time 15:22, 11 Oct 1998
From toker2
ot1 for all intents and purposes a litre
= a quart,and 4 quarts= a gallon,i have been
thinking about a gravity system as well
only i dilute feed with every watering.occasionally
i use plain water to flush.i guess what
you call flood pins we would call drip emitters.i'm
thinking of using 1/4" soaker hose in
a circle around the pot instead of the drip emitters to
get better coverage.i have a 5 gallon
plastic can with a lid threaded for 1" pipe to use as
the reservoir
Time 12:45, 11 Oct 1998
From jeremy
just thought i'd let all who helped know
that my momma that was giving me all the
problems is dead R.I.P.
i was trying to slide her out of the
pot to get a look at her roots cuz she was still looking
haggard. anyway, i inadvertently uprooted
the entire plant!! she was being held in place
by the strand of a single root. she
was only using as much dirt as a small styrofoam cup
can hold. NO WONDER SHE LOOKED LIKE
SHIT! (you were right kane) imagine a 7ft
plant in a strofoam cup and that is
what she looked like evn though she was in a 32 gallon
container.
oh well, i have 75 cuttings i took from
her and will replace her with the BEST two and
force the rest. thanks to all for your
time and efforts. this has been a very traumatic
experience to say the least.
Time 06:44, 11 Oct 1998
From oldtimer1
dognuts thats about 25.5 litres a potis
this right? I live in the UK and don't
understand your gallons as they are
different to ours. So I'll tell you what I use and do,
then you should be able to take any
bits you want and adapt them to your methods of
growing ok!!
I use an organic soil / peatbased system.
The pots are 4 litre 7.25 inch d x 8.5 “ h
and are 6 rows of 13 per 8 ft x 4 ft
with 2 k of light. This means there are 78 plants per
32 sq ft ie 2.4 plants to the sq ft.
There is a 20 mm feed pipe across the 4 ft end and
three 15 mm runs between the pots down
the 8 ft length and joined at the ends. The pot
feeder pipes are teed off the 15 mm
pipe where each pair of pots meet they are 4 mm not
6 mm and have a 3 mm bore and plug strait
into each flood pin. The pots are set on a
dead level capillary matting bed so
share any run through. This system will be
commissioned In January, the prototype
system was done on a 5’ x 4’ same spacings
but using 1 k of light. In the first
three weeks each pot needed 3/4 of a litre each every 3
days. from the middle to the end of
budding they needed 1 litre ea every 3 days so the
tank was set to fill to 36 litres and
then 48 litres. Yields over a couple of grows are
averaging about 93 grams per sq ft.
We met a couple of problems, the water in our area
is very hard full of bicarbonates and
who knows what else, we use sat heavy var’s so are
on 9 to 12 w on 12 hrs and have had
probs with toxic saltbuild up. This requires
moving pots and flushing through [not
a good idea when they are rooted into the matting]
so the new rooms water is being fed
through an RO unit to deal with this. This should
give you all the info you need to design
a system. I will have a lot more info come April
next year and maybe you will have some
feed back to input for us all as well.
All the best Ot1
Time 15:50, 10 Oct 1998
From dognuts
ot1, i use square buckets 10"X10"X16"
can i use this setup on about 100 of
these in soil?
Time 15:48, 10 Oct 1998
From dognuts
ot1, i'm interested in what you described.
i'd like to try it too.
will you help me get started. just tell
me what to do and i'll make it happen.
Time 14:44, 10 Oct 1998
From oldtimer1
Hi I’m in the process of putting a gravity
system together it has a 100 litre heading tank.
A slide adjustable ball valve to adjust
max fill amount. A gardena programmable water
valve. 20 mm down feedbranched to 15
mm runs between pot runs 6 mm feeder
pipes to netafim flood pins rated at
4 litres per hr. I’ve seen this system working at a 5 ft
tank head dead reliable and no pump
to worry about. Liquid organic feed is added to the
tank every other water manually.
Hope this helps Ot1.
Time 13:44, 10 Oct 1998
From dognuts
im only interested in indoor.
i am familiar with timers eric, thanks.
i want to know a system or setup idea
for doing it though.
like maybe a 55 gallondrum with submersible
pump (Rio 2100??) and woodpecker
drip emitters for each container.
i dont want to use a big tray or table.
i want my individual containers of soil!
is it possible??
feedback please
Time 12:04, 10 Oct 1998
From ERIC
VIC,
what is the most potent strain you have
and i think i will be ordering your
blueberry and romberry from richard
Time 08:23, 10 Oct 1998
From ERIC
dognuts>>>>are you talking about indoors
or outdoors?????
indoors you can buy and automatic timer
at wal mart (or almost anyplace like it) for
abouyt $40.00 you can use it outdoors
in your back yard.....
but outdoors guerilla gardening...its
to risky to leave a water hose.
you can build resavoirs to hold water..but
i havent seen or used anything that would
automate it......
if you have a few handy man skills..you
can probably rig that timer into an automatic
watering devise.....the resevore would
have to be big enuff to give enuff pressure
though.....
hayseed int>>>> how do you guys keep
up with me...yes my nuts are warm....your
girlfriend has them in her mouth most
of the time..so id say YES they stay
very,,,,very.....VERY warm inside there
anon>>>>i was fronted 5 from the ten..the
other 5 was fronted to a friend
close friends..gre up together..not
just anybody,ya know?
actually i would say this..i tell you
guys more about whats up than anyone around
me....matter of fact..i discuss growing
with you more than growers iv knone for
years..helped them in their patchs they
have helped me...weird huh?
Time 07:27, 10 Oct 1998
From dognuts
does anyone know a good way to automate
the feeding of plants in soil? could a 32 or 55
gallom drum be used as a resovoir to
conserve space?
all ideas welcome
Time -3:39, 10 Oct 1998
From anon
eric.... glad you're not broke. your
connect fronted you a ten pound brick of exotic???
sounds like the scene there is way cooler
than it is around here.
Time 19:02, 9 Oct 1998
From hayseed intl
howze our oaf doin'?
ya keepin yer nuts warm ERIC?
Time 13:27, 9 Oct 1998
From eric
besides..th brick was fronted anyway
Time 13:18, 9 Oct 1998
From ERIC
man..im not broke..and i wouldnt have
let someone send me seeds if it was because they
thought i was broke.....i was just coming
onto the board in good spirit.....im not broke at
all....
most of the time im straight up....but
im full of shit the other times..if you are ever in
doubt...im an honest guy..i will tell
you straight up how it is,,,
hahaha....
Time 09:44, 9 Oct 1998
From anon
eric... sometimes you confuse me. wasn't
it just last week when you were claiming to be
too poor to buy seeds. now you've got
a big brick of exotic from thailand. how'd you
manage to score the exotic.... rob a
bank??? [laughing]
Time 08:21, 9 Oct 1998
From ERIC
well guys,
i thank all of you...im saving them
until i have the knowledge and room
to do what needs to be done..but im telling you
guys....i rolled a pinner last night
this shit is just fucking good....it
has leaf in it but it isnt too. harsh..i can only imagine
what it will taste like when i take
care of her and cure and dry her correctly and
perfectly.....i did a long taste test
on it last night...it smells just like fucking chocalate
or rootbeer maybe....this is a keeper..
i will be consintrating on it if it
is actually a genetic trait and not a curing trick.......when i
bought the brick ..everyone had already
told me about the high and smell...i had joked
with them and told them some mexican
sat around all day spitin tabacco juice on it after it
cured to give it weight and taste....but
we will know for sure in about 8-9 months.....then
we will see..
oh yeah.....MARC EMERYS SWEET LEAF SUCKS......BUT..i
have it right next to
MARC EMERY'S flo...and im impressed
with flo..no smoke yet..its just that hefer
never even wilted in cloning(all but
2 sweet leaf died)...flo is taking my heat..and my cold
......i watered her with ice water last
week...not so much as a fucking leaf dropped...this
is a keeper if its stoney
Time 05:38, 9 Oct 1998
From oldtimer1
Eric.
I have grown high mountain Thai and
it is very difficult to grow. We used to get loads of
it at one time, the stuff that comes
in now is lowland commercial crap probably from
Cambodia. Never seen a chocolate Thai,
a lot of skunks have been taken to Thailand its
probably a hybrid of some sort, it sounds
like it came from a mixed bag. If you want to
preserve a specific female that has
a characteristic that you like either mum it up and
keep her to make cuttings from. Or if
you want to make a pure breeding strain you will
still have to keep a mum and then cube
itthis will take 4 to 5 generations.I have to
tell you breeding for smell and taste
is difficult. even IBL’s like blueberry have variable
smells and taste.
hope this helps Ot1
Time 02:04, 9 Oct 1998
From Niles
Honu, its hard to feel sorry for you
man.Many others got ripped off and you were
one of the ones defending Weedseed as
on the up and up and that those "complainers"
(just like you btw) should be ignored.So
you may well have gotten some other
sucker to buy from Mike because of your
defense of Weedseed.I guess what
comes around goes around.
Time -1:22, 9 Oct 1998
From Vic High
now there are some good ideas there pie.
Plus maybe the brick had chocolate tai and then
filler weed. I've known more than one
grower to mix killer weed with other weed extend
the batch.
Eric - you want to trade pollen for seeds? I gotsa da lotsa da pollen, haha.
Also, if you want, I could make sure
that chocolate tai keeps it's punch for you, haha.
Just send it my way.Actually seriously,
Pie's advice of reading clarke is a great
place to start. Picking the right parents
to maintain a strain is a bit of an art though. It
takes more than just picking the best
looking parents. Sometimes, the healthiest plants
would be ones of lower potency so by
selecting them, you would be selecting for the
wild type (and not the more potent domestic
type).
Good luck, you should have fun with this
one. A weed that takes care of the munchies -
so cool!
Time -2:26, 9 Oct 1998
From pie
eric, this may be a guess on my part
but seems like seeds react to heat by getting bigger .
so maybe the big seeds came from the
buds at the top of the plant and got smaller as you
went to the bottom or maybe the brick
had plants grown on different parts of the slope
and some were exposed to higher temperatures.
the color difference i would attribute
to the black garbage bag effect. take a black
garbage back and stretch it. it gets
lighter and turns kinda grey. the film on seeds can be
scraped offand some time you will see
these little bits of seed film in your rolling
tray.
then again maybe i am full of it!
Time 18:58, 8 Oct 1998
From HONU
I'm posting this open letter to weedseed
at places like this on the net, hope it does not
violate the rules here.
Mike and Brenda:
Thats it, I give up. I'm sick of giving
you the benefit of the doubt. I ordered Shiva Shanti
seeds on JULY 17, you told me you've
sent it 4 times, I gotten no seeds, no customs
letters, and now no response to my emails.
Heres how stupid I am: I actually felt
GUILTY when you lied to me and said
you were re-shipping my order! I didn't want you
people to be out any money! What an
idiot I was! You must have had a good laugh then
eh? Dumb HONU doesn't even know when
he is being ripped off...
And what makes it evil, what makes my
stomach hurt, is that Mike posts like he is this
100% honest, decent man just trying
to make a living and sell seeds. Mike, you are a liar
and a con man... and a thief. HOW DARE
YOU pretend otherwise! Looking back at your
emails, I dont think there is a grain
of truth in any of them. Thats what really hurts. I
believed the bullshit i read over at
cannabis.com, I wanted nothing but to become a loyal
customer, and you took my money and
never looked back.
I was angry at Bongblaster for the way
he ran you off the seeds board, but you are
worse. at least BB acknowledges being
a ruthless prick. But he never ripped people off!
You hide behind your "morals and principles"
like a coward. You play games with
people's minds. That, to me, is evil.
So what happens now? Well, I have decided
I'll never see the seeds or the money again, I
am not going to play Mike's game of
'he who complains loudest gets seeds'like Mike did
with DDHD2. I'd rather have something
Mike will never give- the truth. I'd really like to
know why he ripped me off, that is worth
the $70.
Time 15:58, 8 Oct 1998
From oldtimer1
pie you have mail. Ot1
Time 14:56, 8 Oct 1998
From eric
well
i plant to make the strain available if it is as good as i hope....not
going to
ruin my name with sorry weed
Time 13:52, 8 Oct 1998
From pie
Eric ... get the book or better yet go
to Vic's BCG site and start reading "marujuana
botony" by clarke for a start. it has
a good dicussion on breeding and such. i am still
learning every time i read it.
Time 13:46, 8 Oct 1998
From pie
ot1 ... just read this post pasted below and not sure what you mean ...
"oldtimer1
pie just grow the seeds they may suprise you!!!! Ot1"
re: your question about fortnight ...
you were talking 2 weeks right? webby admits to the
fact that he is not a literary genius
and Shakespeare is one of the only places i can recall
where one can view that kind of language
in the states anymore. hell, i do not know half
the slang used nowadays.
your insight on your growing methods
is very instructive to me and many others. bonzi
'ing the mums and your techniques are
very helpful. thanks bro. you are light years ahead
of me.
Eric >>> i thought that BB gave you bunches
of seeds when you visited him? sheez i
thought he had the best!
would you be interested in getting rid of any of those tia seeds?
btw, i took the liberty of directing
some of my buds to your articles about shabang and
his/her bikini and they were rolling!
Time 13:25, 8 Oct 1998
From pie
I forgot ....
Go Jackets
stomp the pack and to hell with Georgia
(y'all will beat LSU handily BTW)
Time 13:22, 8 Oct 1998
From pie
stix >>> we have 2 things in common. hehehe.
"to hell with Georgia" and Visor Boy coached @ my alma mater ... Georgia Tech.
You areright about UGA having a fine
team. They have Champ Bailey and their
QB, Quincy Carter,originally signed
with GT. Coach Donn_an has made sure to
rub it in pur faces every chance he
gets!!! payback is hell!
used to live in jacksonville and go to
the cocktail party and root for 'neither'. sorry, but i
worked with tooooooooooo many obnoxious
Gator fans who liked to make the arm / jaw
movement in my face. you know the one.
Hopefully GT will be up to the task of
beating the Dogs come Thanksgiving. The fact
that both Fl schools are having off
years ( Miami of the Big Weak Conference doesn't
count) has thrown both conference races
wide open!
btw, do you post @ the Swamp? or the
Vent?
Time 11:34, 8 Oct 1998
From ERIC
another thing,
looking in the handfull of seeds i have
from this tai..there are some small dark black,
some regular grey, and some HUGE grey
seeds.....it came in a 10 pound brick so im sure
there all kinds of genes in there...ill
have to grow them out to see which i like....
my question is......
lets say i have a huge mom perfect...i
tested her buds from cloning...and i know she is
the one....i will take lots of clones
before she naturally flowers and take indoors to keeo
going
but what about the pollenation....
do i just get the best male in all the
others.... i know to pick the one that has the
caractoristics i want my babies to have
but its mainly the smell that i want...so do i pick
the one who leaves
are the most fragrant..or do you guys
smoke the tips from your males to test them.
now im a little worried about the blueberry....i
want to keep that chocclate smell....
ssssssssshit now i dont know what the
hell to do...i think im just going to cross it with a
male just like it....
if i do that year after year..without
crossing it out..how long until it looses its punch....
i know a guy that brought some tai back
from the war..
the hippies around tell me thast his
was the most fire theve evr had when he first came
back....but they say now...it lacks
the punch it used to have...
so how do i keep the good traits in..is
there an article somwhere explaining this
thanks...
Time 11:20, 8 Oct 1998
From ERIC
well,
i think i will take the advice and cross it with blueberry....
who has the best blueberry????
how well does blueberry do outside????
thanks guys....and you know you will
get
some of the resulting seeds....
Time 08:46, 8 Oct 1998
From stix
Pie>>Hehe, that was a good curve-Visor
boy, beloved by us all!!! I had such high hopes
for this year, all not lost yet if we
get past LSU this week and those )(&*%*( bulldogs
later. Seriously, Im not sure where
the team we expected to show up this year went,
gators got some great talent but game-day
it doesnt allways show up! It sort of looks like
u of ga is creme in sec east this year
so far. FSU giving the ACC a little room this year
for other teams too, it appears. Yep,
this time of year is my favorite too, been a fan
forever. However, losing to Tenn sure
put a damper on it so far tho. Maybe Visor Boy
will have an answer-he's gettin back
to one quarterback for the LSU game, maybe that
will help. I wish he'd teach'um how
to run the ball a little bit. GO GATORS!!!
Time 18:38, 6 Oct 1998
From Vic High
david - the peruvians aren't mine to
distribute. They are from another breeder
who trusted Heavan's Stairway with a
few sample seeds. I am testing out the
seeds for Richard at Heavan's Stairway
with the idea that they are not mine. I'm
not sure if I'm even allowed to make
hybrids with them.I'm pretty sure that
if the end results are good, they will
become a new product for Richard, but just
not from me.
outdoors - I don't grow outside, so it
would be hard for me to breed for outdoor
genetics. I had some early pearl genes
come my way this summer, but they
didn't make the cut and are gone. I
always thought blueberry would do well
outside, but even though it is a fast
flowerer, many growers in the US reported
that it was late at starting to flower.
I do know that romulan kicks in a greenhouse
if you can manipulate the light period
or heat it in the late fall.
jeremy - I'm an old fashioned dirt boy
that has never used a tds meter. I only
worry about monitoring the pH of the
tap water, and don't really even worry
about that. Maybe Jay can help you.
I think he has done something similar.
Time 13:52, 6 Oct 1998
From pie
stix>>>> ah yes another name from the
past ... gainesville green. seems like that
was my first exposure to seedless pot.
also seems like i remember that it had a
little stronger home grown taste than
now, but still very pleasurable.
one of the guys i met years ago and re-kindled
an acquanitance with used to fly
some of those planes from columbia.
he got out of that business when the
market went to the white stuff.
i have heard that the infamous Bow's
still exist and are not exported but sold to
tourists only... the white stuff is
tooooooooo profitable to mess with smoke. i have
talked with him one time and plan on
trying to see if he can get me some seeds.
BTW, i thing his name is 'Visor Boy'.
hehehe. do you know that nic?
Time 12:35, 6 Oct 1998
From jeremy
vic, can you tell me how to use my TDS
meter?
i mean, i know how to operate it but
at what ppm is best for marijuana, etc?
thanks. i want to check out my tap water
and runoff
Time 12:13, 6 Oct 1998
From david
vic high,
I was over at buds page and saw you
might work on sweet tooth and grapefruit
crosses,i would be very interested in
them. I was also wondering if your ever
gonna make seeds of your peruvians for
retail sale,i never had a chance to get
them.
In the future i'd love to see a strain
from bcga that is just for outdoor,fast
flowering(september) very fruity (blueberry
hybrid,sweet tooth,grapefruit with
early pearl or something)easy to grow
and an up high.
That would a kickass outdoor strain.
see yah
Time 07:59, 6 Oct 1998
From west coast
msg to lothar....some one recommended
you as a person to chat with
about my grow video idea.. please leave me a msg if you wish to talk in
further detail..i am very interested
in giving it a try in the near future...
i would be more than happy to put up the capital to make the video , if
some one could maybe help me distribute
it , could you help??? What is
the worst that could happen?i want to
produce approximately 100 copies.
if i couldnt happen i would be more
thanb happy to give them away for free, or in
exchange for some favours... Peace and
out!!!!!
Time -2:49, 6 Oct 1998
From Vic High
No Jay, this was their second treatment.
They started flowering on Aug 23 so are
well on their way. I couln't notice
any difference between the two after the first
treatment but a week after the second,
I can really see a difference. Especially
the treated romberry. It's blowing the
doors off the romulans but the romulans will
have an extra two weeks to grow in the
end.
Time -2:15, 6 Oct 1998
From jay
hey god...um i mean vic was that the
second round of the blossom blood or still
the first...?and how far along are they..if
your seeing this much difference without
even being 1/2 way threw wow!!!...
bd-97 you have mail bro...
oldtimer,good to see ya round bud..have
you ever tried using a foilar feed
method to increase plant growth for
quicker veg periods?i was reading an article
i will try and find it so you can see
it..
Time -2:01, 6 Oct 1998
From Vic High
oops sorry guys, that post below (-3:56) was from me.
Blossom Blood - Jay, now I can see a
difference. The buds treated with blossom
blood are no taller but are definately
thicker. I used it on 4 plants and left four
plants as controls. The treated plants
look as though they are a week ahead. I'll
keep doing side by side tests to see
if this was just a fluke or if this stuff really
works.
Aeric, thanks bud
growing for profit? never! that would
be illegal :) I'm just a soil boy who likes
growing flowers :)
Speaking of which, it looks as though
I had a supreme being looking out for me
one the weekend while I was away. LMAO
Time -3:53, 6 Oct 1998
Eric, congrats on the new genetics. That
chocolate tai sounds interesting. Mowie
Wowie was the name of some kick ass
herb that I smoked back in 84. Definate
1-2 hit wonder stuff. It was grown locally
by a family friend who frequented
Hawaii.
Breeding - Is white widow even an F1?
From what I here, it is quite variable
indicating that it is just a hybrid
and not an F1. Anyway, crossing an F1 to an
unrelated F1 will give you an F2 and
not an F1. F1's only come from crossing
two stable inbred lines or strains.
Your right about your conclusions about vigour
though. The problem is that many who
grow a seed would like to be able to
predict the outcome. That is why one
would cross two similar plants. It all
depends on what you want to get from
the cross.
Westcoast - I think Lothar is into videos,
he pops in from time to time. Your ideas
sound interesting and could really help
out alot of people. We didn't put bcga
together to create a comercial enterprise
and therefore don't think we would be
interested in selling them though. Your
best best may be to track down some
supplliers of the hemp and grow shops
and get them to distribute them.
As for donations for the webpage, there
really is no need, but thanks for asking.
The webpage space is free, and I just
add to it from time to time when I can. As
you can see, I don't dedicate alot of
time keeping it up to date.
indicaa - I kinda lost track of the three
and fourleafed blueberry seedlings I had.
As they grew, they slowly reverted to
two leaf pattern. I never tagged them so
eventually lost track of which ones
started with the three leaves so have no idea
if they turned out to be males or females.
One did remain a runt and was
eventually tossed, but the rest blended.
Bill Clinton - thanks and good luck finding
the Nigerian seeds. I think I seen some
listed at a seedbank someplace but can't
remeber where. I'll keep my eyes open.
Time 19:39, 5 Oct 1998
From Bill Clinton
anonymous- that shouldn't offend anyone
really. We've all probably bought dope
before from some commercial source.
Most people wouldn't have had the
chance to try pot if not for the commercial
growers. In that sense, commercial
growers are far more important than
closet growers. I only grow for personal use
though.
Time 18:11, 5 Oct 1998
From anonymous
i grow strickytly to sell .where i live
it is simple to unload the heafty
quantity.i wouldnt take the risk to
grow just for personal use( i smoke very
infrequently) the shit around here is
just too potent for me to smoke it daily.
hope this post doesnt offend anybody....
Time 16:52, 5 Oct 1998
From ERIC
Well justice. i will tell you.....i have
grown alot of pot....but i just smoke it...or i
have given to a friend before..to tell
you the truth its too damn risky to
sell...because see..hell everyone here
knows how to grow their own...so all you
have left is the friends at home..but
they can grow too.
so you have a small market..on top of
that what we grow is primo..they will not
pay our prices..so we let the dealers
deal that mexican brown..we just grow and
trade seeds to each other...thats it.....besides
if my wife knew i grew to sell she
would KILL me...
see if you sell you are risking loosing
your plants..plants you have born and
watered and feed for years....it is
bad to sell...we are perfectionists..but we grow
perfection for ourselves..hope this
answers your question..good luck with your
plants.hehe
Time 11:47, 5 Oct 1998
From justice
just out of sheer curiosity, how many
of you grow to sell???
please answer anonymous-like
Time 08:04, 5 Oct 1998
From stix
Pie>>Yep, pretty close, 300 miles south
of Hotlanta on I-75 in Fl. I remember a
lot of the primo stuff had links to
Atlanta from here. We never got the primo
Mexican here tho, different route. Best
came in early days when it was being
flown in in small planes, no bricking
or packing and no compost smell, just bales
of loose bud. The "commercial" went
for bout $300 lb and the "sorted"
orprimo a little more at between $450-600
for the Coloumbians. Hey,
thanks for the memories Pie, hadnt thought
of those days for awhile. Our first
growing attempts was with the Colombian
seeds, when we learned to grow it
sensi, it started getting really good,
and couple years later some Afghanni
showed up and it got crossed with the
Col. and we had some very good "home
grown" as we called it.(others called
it Gainesville Green, among other names)
Time 19:50, 4 Oct 1998
From pie
stix>>> was in Hotlanta at the time.
also had the red leaved jamacian and the
gold mexican with huge seeds but killer
bud that was sweet hashy and expanded
like shit.the prices i remember were
$280 for a lb with an increase to $400-$480
over a 2 year period. killer mex was
going for about $180-210 a lb.
were we close? from your prices i would
suspect you were on the east
coast!?????
Time -2:52, 4 Oct 1998
From aeric77
hello Vic.
wouldn't want to jinx it but i have to say it's nice seeing your page
get back to were it was.....and were
i you i would drfinitely watch the peruvians
for male flowers....seems to be a prevalent
trait in 'in the wild' sativa genetics...
Time -3:47, 4 Oct 1998
From stix
Pie>>Hmm, Pie your comment on the Columbians
sure hit a warm spot in me!!
Your access to those buds make me wonder
if you and I werent neighbors
during that time. I live in one of the
areas that was major entry point for the
Columbian and Jamacian during that era
and consequently we got access to the
cream of the crop so to speak!! I remember
one morning a student rode his bike
to my house with a quarter pound of
the prettiest golden yellow coloumbian buds
Ive ever seen, smell like mint, only
wanted $160 for the lot. I agree completely
about todays strains versus then. They
are plenty potent today, but the high is
not as exciting as the strains then.
Good Jamacian had a buzz that was so
intense and buzzy it made you feel you
had a finger on an electric wire or
something. Boy those were the days!
Time 20:22, 3 Oct 1998
From Bill Clinton
I remember once about 15 years ago my
brother got a gram of some killer hash.
A friend joined us and we smoked the
whole gram at once because we
were too stupid to know better. I've
never laughed like that since.
Vic - hope the Peruvian turns out good,
or at least maybe isolate the non-hermy
genes. I'm also looking for Nigerian,
I've heard it's the best hands down. I don't
believe HempBC sends here & can't
find it anywhere else. Perhaps one to look
for one day? (major hint, eh?)JK, but
I would like any info on where to find it. TIA
Time 18:14, 3 Oct 1998
From indicaa
A question for Vic>>> just germinated
10 of your Blueberry -10 germinated and
9 have sprouted. Of the 9, three have
3 cotyledons with 3 true leaves emerging.
A while back there was a discussion
about this over at Weedbase, but no one
seemed to post the end results. What
were your results? Did they turn out to be
male, female, duds? Or is this just
the weird initial growth you mentioned?
Thanks
indicaa
Time 14:43, 3 Oct 1998
From west coast
this might sound stupid but do you guys
except donations from people( dont
know how much it costs to keep you web
page gowing) would be more than
happy to send you a hummble donation
. really appreciate the web
page..... peace all
Time 14:03, 3 Oct 1998
From pie
stix>>> yo dude pie here. i agree with you as well re: the old OLD strains.
my memory of the early seventies and
the columbian i had access to leaves me
perplexed wrt to today's strains.
i smoked red bud, gold bud and hash bud
( columbians all ) that had seeds out
the ass and STILL had a better taste
and smell than most designer strains i have
sampled. the high was not lacking either.
i still miss he hash bud which was and
still is my personal favorite!
Time 13:37, 3 Oct 1998
From West Coast
have done some screwing around with my
camcorder ( basically filmed my
buddies room over a 3 month period}
what i producedwas definetly on the
budget side, but it was very cool and
helped many friends see some great
results. The three friends who used
it as a reference were all farely
inexperienced growers yet they were
all able to see results that satisfied them
immensely... Even i was stunned that
these dudes did as well as they
did.....any how dont want to rammble
on too much but am very interested
in some feedback PEACE ALL
Time 13:30, 3 Oct 1998
From West Coast
this message is for vic high..Have you
guys at BCGA ever
considered producing stsp by step instructional
videosand
selling them over the net....Just an
idea would love some feedback.....
Peace
Time 13:07, 3 Oct 1998
From ERIC
ok ,
question....if you cross an f1 hybrid white widow..to an fi
hybrid white widow from the same mom..you
will not have as much vigour.....
but what about croosing an fi hybrid
white widow...with an fi hybrid skunk
now you should get a damn good cross
from this right....i think that if you cross
say two plant s from seed you order
from same (say white widow..same package)
well the resulting f2's will have more
of the recesive traits...but crossing an f1 to
a totally unrelated f1
should give you a good f1 not an f2..right....like
if i buy..say white widow..f1
green house seeds (this would be a cross
of the original white widow and
something else) is this how it works.....or
if i buy white widow from grren house ..it
is original white widow....what will
happen if i cross the best mom to the best
father from the same package of seeds...what
will the babies be like? wouldn't it
be better to cross the best mom with
a good father from another strain?
aeroponics>> guys this is the way to
go..i have been doing some research ..man
this shit is awesome...i see no disadvantages
to it from soil...less waste..less
work....more descreet..cleaner...faster..more...i
have some links that would be
useful if you are researching it.....
Hey Vic>>>i like the new hang out...
Time 12:06, 3 Oct 1998
From oldtimer1
pie just grow the seeds they may suprise
you!!!! Ot1
Time 09:25, 3 Oct 1998
From ERIC
I have recieved seeds from two of the
breeders i met....mowie wowie...and
chocolate Tai.....
does anyone know anything about either..
i have 7 mowie seeds...and 300 choalate
tai...the tai came shipped with some
buds...the buds are dark....orange hairs
and smell just like a hershey bar...
Time 06:30, 3 Oct 1998
From pie
stix>>> yo dude pie here. i agree with you as well re: the old OLD strains.
my memory of the early seventies and
the columbian i had access to leaves me
perplexed wrt to today's strains.
i smoked red bud, gold bud and hash bud
( columbians all ) that had seeds out
the ass and STILL had a better taste
and smell than most designer strains i have
sampled. the high was not lacking either.
i still miss he hash bud which was and
still is my personal favorite!
Time 20:02, 2 Oct 1998
From Vic High (vic_high@hotmail.com)
hey stix, email me please. Trying to
figure who I know you as. (sitting here
scratching my head)
got it Toker, (a HUGE THANKS!) BTW I
read my mail first before I cruise the chat
boards.
Time 10:08, 2 Oct 1998
From toker2
vic you have mail. hey any chance for
a sweet tooth/romulan f1?
Time -2:03, 2 Oct 1998
From stix
Mirage>>Only thing that I can think of
done wrong is heat, this has been a bitch
of a summer here, but I dont think it
would affect them that much, bout six other
varities growin with it did ok. Mine
bud from tip to stem abundantly, if they would
just bud tightly, they would be impressive.
My light may not be enough for it. Let
me know if yours get tight nuggies.
Eric>>Do a search on aeroponics at Laughing
Moon site, some good info and
links there.
Vic>>Hey, I hope your future clone is
of the old stock too, that was some real
killer stuff. HeHe, hope that per. stuff
doesnt have hermies, but all those females
are one of the first clues they may
be comin tho, isnt it.
Oldtimer 1>>Man, Im glad someone agrees
about the strains today. Had I never
grown some of the early stock out of
A-dam I may be happier with todays
product. Most of the crosses then had
such a good balance of taste, potency
and yeild(especially Nevilles crosses)
that seems to lack in lots of strains today.
Another thing Ive noticed is the strains
today seem to require more light to really
produce. I just started serious' ak47
and paradise sensi star, hoping to find my
nirvana so was hoping to hear you say
the ak would make your socks roll up and
down.Hehe Luck with the JH, I ordered
a pack for a buddy when I got the
nl5xhaze but he lost all of it with
the heat we're having here so cant comment on
that one.
Time -3:23, 2 Oct 1998
From MIRAGE
STIX >> I have NL#5 Haze , and it's going
really well . Both are over 5 ft tall and
budding like Mutha fu*kers. Doing everything
right ?
Time 11:54, 1 Oct 1998
From ERIC
shit number 2 i can't afford the gas
to go find a job......i would like to know if
anyone has seen instructions on this
airophonics..looks intresting enough to
check out
Time 11:51, 1 Oct 1998
From Vic High
Oldtimer - track has only been up for
a week so too early to tell, but IMO that
track won't be able to touch the suncircles
for light efficiency, at least not until I
adopt your system of combining MH and
HPS into each hood. The plants under
the track (HPS only) are not as big
as the ones under the suncircle with the
2HPS 1MH combo of lights. Plants under
suncircle have thicker stalks and bigger
leaves.
I plan to use the track to do a side
by side comparison between the Sunmaster
warm deluxe MH and Eye Hortilux HPS.
That is after I get ahead on the seedlings
I have on the go.
Stix, sorry to hear about the bad luck
you had with NL/Haze. I have a buddy with
a clone, and now hope it is from some
of the older stock.
I have some peruvian stock that I'm testing
out for Heavan's Stairway. The
skunks are setting buds real nicely
but the sativas are starting very slow. I was
just able to sex them this week and
they went into flower on sept 11. Very high
female ratio, 7/7 on the skunks, 3/4
on the sativas. I hope this doesn't mean that
I have to worry about hermies popping
up.
Time 11:34, 1 Oct 1998
From oldtimer1
Mota The Lamps are hung from the centre
of the area on a pulley and spaced 2
ft apart, the are rotated180 deg every
day the reflectors are specular ally
wide beam from 21st century garden in
theUK.
stix I agree with you entirely the only
good thing I’ve had from the dam recently
was blue berry and that came from sag
direct and they got that from this side!
We tried NL 5 * H got it over the counter
from sensi’s shop and that turned out to
be a straight NL. We also tried AK from
bluebird [serious seeds] we didn't rate
thateither. I have some Jack Herer to
try when I have time we will see what
they do.
All the best Ot1
Time 11:17, 1 Oct 1998
From # 2
damn dude, maybe you need to get a job
instead of hanging on the net all day.
Time 11:14, 1 Oct 1998
From ERIC CARR
damn dudes,
I'm so broke i can't even afford rollin papers..i have to use tampon
wrappers..and thats only when i can
get my hands on those (once a month)
all the other times i just use a beer
can...the only weed i can afford is dicarderd
stems and seeds...the stem smokes..the
seed explodes to take my mind of the
headache from the stems and ink from
the tampon wrapper..come on vic..give
me some seeds man
Time 09:53, 1 Oct 1998
From ERIC CARR
Vic,
You like my sense of humor???
i will make you a deal...send me some
seeds and i will tell you a joke. I f had
somethin to grow i could descuss it
with you..but i am a poor bastard. I can't
even afford a p.o. box...i smoke
flowers that i pick of the road side..and
pretend that it is pot, because i can't
afford it. i have smoked
Mexican brown my whole life...i thought
that was all there was until i started
talking to you guys...what is blueberry?
damn i am broke...send me some seeds
man
Time 09:08, 1 Oct 1998
From stix
Hi folks, just finished/gave-up-on some
NL5xHaze from Sensi and Im very
disappointed. The original cross by
Neville was/still-is one of the best Ive grown.
This new cross from Sensi however is
very disappointing. The orig. leaned to
indica, tight large buds and more potent
than anything. The cross Im workin with
is the opposite in almost every way.
Sativa, really loose buds, unwilling to finish
up(they've had one of my budding rooms
tied up for so long Ive lost track), and
the potentcy Ive sampled is very average.
Anyone have any better luck with
todays cross? Im using about 40 watts
sq/ft, maybe I need more light or
something, dont know but I was surprised
how poorly this cross performed. The
strains I got from SSSC and The Seed
Bank circa 85-90 seemed to have more
vigor and potency than most of what
I see from a-dam today, does anyone else
who has experience with strains from
both then and now have a comment on
this?
Time 08:34, 1 Oct 1998
From anon
well, looks like this may be the spot
now. hi all.
Time 08:30, 1 Oct 1998
From Mota
oldtimer1,
Are your lights on a sun circle or mover
or are they stationary?If stationary
do you rotate the plants?
PAZ,
Mota
Time 03:30, 1 Oct 1998
From oldtimer1
Vic sorry about all the square jobs on
the post just pasted it from wp doc's will
look more closely at them in future.All
the best That new light setup sounds
wicked you should get way better buds
and yields. All the best Ot1
Time 03:25, 1 Oct 1998
From oldtimer1
Hi Islander [I’ve posted bits of this
elsewhere so I hope i’’’’’m not boring any one]
you might like to know about the soil/peat based system used by our
Co-Op:-
We use an organic soil and peat based
system, using 8 inch 4 litre pots this fits
42or with 7.24 * 8.5 inch tall 4 litre
fit 48 to 20 square feet.From
rooting through the plants are fed and
watered with a dilute organic feed every
three days about 3/4 to 1 litre per
plant.Humidity is kept between 35 and
50%, temperature minimum 65 maximum
85° F.The grow area is
surrounded by mylar drapes. In addition
the plants are given a spray once or
twice a week with a mix of 1 ml 35%
H2O2, 10 ml Maxicrop and one drop of
wetting agent to 1 litre of soft water
this is done untilplants start to form
proper flower clusters. Lighting is
at 50 w per sq ft using a mix 600 w son t plus
and 400 w clear metal halide. [venture
make the best halide lamps] We have
found that halides improve the quality
of the stone most with sativas and to a
lesser extent with indicas.We also decrement
time from veg to flower
period, in fact a lot of what we do
is to suit the types of plant we use which are
mostly on the sativa side.
The Bio Bizz products we use in litres
by volume are:-
Premix [a composted base fertiliser]5
litres
Wormest [some sort of worm casts]10
litres
the rest of the ingredients get from
a horticultural sundrysman
sterilised organic loam15 litres
perlite15 litres
sedge peat25 litres
moss peat30 litres
TOTAL100 litres
1 tspn compost wetting agent
calcified seaweed or second best dolomite
lime added to balance mix to ph 6.5
[ about a medium cup ]
We have tried their premixed composts
and about 10 other mixes in our own
trials and the above produces the best
results consistently time after time.
Method :-
when ready cuttings are moved to 3 or
4 L pots under 18 hr lighting and just get
water when needed. A week afterthey
have rooted throughwe start
feeding with a mix of Bio bizz grow
and bloom 20 ml of each to 10 Levery
water from then till we take down the
harvest there is no with draw period and it
gives a sweet smoke.We like to keep
the ratio of phosphorus lower than
the potash we have tried just the bloom
at the end and you have flush at the end
with a weeks withdrawal of fert even
then the taste is not so good and there is
very little difference in finished weights.
Bio Bizz bloom N 2% P 6% K 3.5% Mg .3%
Cal .3%
Bio Bizz Grow N 3% P 2% K 8%
Question have any of you tried using
higher potash than phosphorus
ratios and what were your impressions?
These are the rates we use with 35% H2O2
:-
For sterilising equipment(pots, trays,
watering cans and Hydro pipes,
trays, pumps etc)
10mls per litre.
For first watering of compost while
sowing seeds. 2.5 to a max of
5mls to the litre.
For watering seedlings or cuttings..5
to a max 1 ml to the litre and in
addition when misting 10 mls of Maxicrop
of similar and one or two drops of
wetting agent .
With the above system we use 1k mixed
light [ 600 w son t plus and 400 w Mh ]
to cover 20 sq ft5 ft * 4 area.
Out of about 30 grows a year the lowest
yield per sq ft was58.5 grams and
the best 95.24 grams. This represents
1.17 k to 1.9 kilo per 1 k of lighting. All
plants used are clones from selected
mums. These mums have been selected
over many years from growing out hundreds
of seeds and only picking the very
best . Selection is all important! So
you can get good yields but it takes a lot of
time, meticulous recording and a quite
a lot of work. IMHO specs given by the
seed co’s areunreliable to say the least.
Hope this helpsthere is no
quick easy way!!! This is only one method
there must be hundreds out there
hope this helps a little bit``grow well.”
All the best Ot1.
By the way the above yields represent
good bud the rest and the trim go through
the scuff machine.