Interview
Magazine
Issue 9504
Stevie
Nicks, Sarah McLachlan
Stevie Nicks: Hello?
Sarah McLachlan: Hi. I'm so bummed that we're
not talking in person.
Where are you now?
SN: In Phoenix
SM: On, right on.
SN: So, Sarah McLachlan. First, I have
something to tell you. I go to
bed very late, and when I finally do go to bed, about four
o'clock in
the morning, It's the only time I listen to the radio. And lots
of
times when I'm really asleep, something will pull me out of my
sleep
and the amazing thing is it's often Fleetwood Mac. I'll hear the
bass
and drums and it'll wake me up.
SM: Mmmm.
SN: Every once in a while, somebody else will
pull me out of my sleep.
So this past February I'm sound asleep and all of a sudden this
{sings} "And I will be the one." (SM takes a deep
breath) Right?
SM: Right.
SN: And I'm going, "I love this." The
DJ said, "That was a new,
fabulous thing from Sarah that's called Possession." So I
wrote down:
Sarah, Possession. The next morning I said to my assistant,
"You have
to get this record that's called Posssession. I don't know if
that's
the name of the album or the song. All I know is that this lady's
name is Sarah, which of course, is my favorite name. And you have
been a total part of my life since. I have to give you the
greatest
compliment that I could pay to anyone. You remind me so much of
the
first time that I went to the Fillmore in San Francisco. I was in
a
band that was the opening act on a show that had about seven acts
in
it. And there was red velvet drapes and you knew that Janis
Joplin
had sat in this dressing room, and there was something about your
music that reminded me of how I felt about Janis. When I heard
your
music, I thought, Somehow this woman reminds me of the incredible
music that came out of San Francisco when all of us were so
knocked
out to be alive.
SM: Whoa! That's pretty heavy for me.
SN: Well, it was heavy for me too, because I
thought, Wow. She's
ticked into an incredible thing here. Somehow she's new, yet she
must
be a very wise, old soul, because she's put it all together now,
but
she's still a little antique.
SM: Wow, that blows me away.
SN: When did you start doing this?
SM: I started singing professionally when I was
nineteen. I got a
record contract offered to me on a silver platter. A couple of
years
previous, I was in a band, and the first gig we did, a guy from a
record company saw me and wanted to sign me- when I was
seventeen.
But my mom kind of freaked out. And in retrospect, it was really
a
good thing, because I forgot about it and I went to art college
for a
year and was really feeling like I fit in someplace for the first
time
in my life. Then they came back to me and offered me a contract.
I
had never written a song up until that point.
SN: Really?
SM: For years and years, I had been playing
other people's songs. It
was always my biggest dream to be up onstage performing. It
always
seemed intangible for me, because my mom and dad were academics
and
wanted me to go to university, so it was like a dream come true
and a
big push for me to start writing myself.
SN: I never in a million years expected it to
happen to me. I took
typing and shorthand. I went to five years of college and I quit
and
also got into humongous trouble from my parents for that.(SM
laughs) I
moved to Los Angeles with Lindsey Buckingham, which was totally
unacceptable to my entire family. Not only was I living with
somebody,
but I quit school. "What are you gonna do? Be in the circus
for the
rest of your life?"
SM: Yeah. "When are you going to get a real job?"
SN: Right. I also think that fame and fortune have a high price.
SM: On, no shit. Especially if you're not
asking for the fame part. I
just want to sing. I've only really become what you call a famous
person in the past year. I'm lucky I had five years to get used
to it
in bits and pieces.
SN: The same thing with me. I was just singing
with my
then-boyfriend, Lindsey, and we had nothign, no money. And I
worked.
He didn't work. He furiously practiced his guitar every day, all
day-and I backed that up. And then we got a call from a famous
guy in
a famous band who said, "Do you wanna join our band?"
We actually
went back and forth about it: "Well, maybe we don't. Maybe
we just
want to do what we're doing now." And between Jan. and my
birthday in
May we became famous."
SM: On man!
SN: We got paid in cash, two hundred dollars a
week each, so I had
hundred-dollar bills everywhere. And since we hadn't spent any
money
in five years, we didn't know how to spend money. And I was
washing
hundred-dollar bills through the wash and finding them crumpled
and
detergented out, and hanging them on the line with the rest of
our
stuff. Well, Sarah, are you happy?
SM: Me? Yeah. i've been out on the road for
over a year now, so I'm
sort of at my wit's end with life and the world. But I kind of
have a
happy magnet. I can't stand being depressed, so I work my ass off
to
get out of it as soon as possible.
SN: It's so pretty here that it's hard to be in
a bad mood. The
desert's very healing, and I have just been setting up a
Bosendorfer
piano, which is the pride of my life.
SM: Oh, you lucky thing, you!
SN: And for the first time I moved my piano
into the living room and
I'm building around that piano. It's the reason why this house is
here, the reason I'm here. IT's kind of like if this house burns
down, you will see me-
SM: Dragging the piano! (laughs)
SN: I've actually had some serious fire drills
on the road. And I
stand in the middle of the room and think, Well, I have to get my
tape, because there's stuff that I've written that is nowhere
else.
And I have to run down twenty-four flights of staris with all my
writing, all my tapes, a guitar, and two or three dolls-I collect
dolls. I get to the lobby, and everybody's standing there,
saying, "I
can't believe you brought all that stuff with you." I'm
saying,
"Well, you can't believe it, but this is my life."
SM: When you're out on the road, you have so
little that is familiar
to you, so those things just become so important.
SN: And you travel on a bus?
SM: Yeah. We have two tour buses and we caravan.
SN: I had never gone on a bus in my life until
this year. And I have
never had such a great time in my whole life, because it was like
getting on an incredible little traveling thing with my best
friends.
SM: Oh yeah, it's like a candy store.
SN: I loved it so much that I was really sad to
see that bus go. I
thought, If I could just park this bus in front of my house and
live
on this and go in and shower and do my hair, then I could love
this
little space.
SM: I get nostalgic about touring after I've
been away from it for
a while. But on our European tour we'd been out for so long and
together in such a confined space, we all started to regress. The
last show of the tour in Paris was pretty frightening. I'd had
laryngitis for about two weeks. I could hardly sing. Afterward we
went to this restaurant and got rip-roaring drunk and made
absolute
fools of ourselves.
SN: Which is very easy to do over there,
because everybody there
drinks like it's water. When I joined Fleetwood Mac, I was
twenty-seven years old and i had never ever drank, and these
people
were used to getting on an airplane at nine in the morning and
ordering a double Bloody Mary.
SM: Oooh!
SN: Pretty soon I realized I can't enjoy being
with these people,
because they look at the world through a different pair of
glasses
than I do. Lindsey and I were California girls and boys. We were
a
strange group of three English people and two American people,
and
that was very hard on the road., because we were just so
different.
Christine McVie had Stevie Winwood carrying her books home from
school, and Eric Clapton was best friends with Mick Fleetwood
when
they were sixteen, and I could not even relate to that. It was
like,
"You guys are too famous for me. And I'm getting really
nervous."
SM: I can't be with people who are drinking
unless I'm drinking too.
I hardly drink anyway.
SN: That's OK, because we drank for you. We got
it out of the way.
You don't have to do it.
SM: Yeah, you people are why my mother had a
bad attitude about the
music industry (laughs)
SN: I bet. Well, my partents had no sympathy
for it all. My granddad
was a country and western singer, and he left his family and took
freight trains and traveled all over, playing in bars and
supporting
himself by playing pool. So my mom and dad thought, Well, there
she
goes. She's gonna walk down the same road as her grandfather. And
luckily I became a bit more successful than he was (both laugh).
You
know what? I would love to meet you sometime and sit down and
just
talk about your music and my music and share some of the mistakes
I
made that maybe you don't need to make.
SM: Well, I'd definitely love to bend your ear
some more, because I
have had very little opportunity to talk to anybody who's been in
any
position such as mine. Especially a woman.
SN: You can always call me. I have been through
just about every
possible thing that you could go through, and I've just given up
everything you could possibly give up for this. And I wonder
sometimes if I made the right decisions. There are a lot of
things
that I would love to tell you that might make a difficult time a
little easier for you. I'll give you my phone number so that you
can
call me when you're in the middle of Toronto, bummed out, and I
can
tell you that everthing's gonna be all right.