pezboy's interview with Dietrich of Unit Park-
Dietrich, one of
the three members of the now-defunct Prototype 909, is one of those
guys who seems like he's been around forever. He's been a powerful
creative element in the international techno scene for years, having released
dozens of records with P909, on his own, and now with his new group Unit
Park. He's recently started his own label called Hidden Agenda, and
it's first release (a 12" by him) will be out in November. He also
plans to release about 6-8 12" a year, distributed by Sonic Groove NYC.
He mentioned that the first Unit Park video was about to be shot.
I asked him to send
me a brief autobiography, and the following is what he wrote:
"Grew up in Connecticut; played in a punk band for a bit. Bought
my first 'real' synth when I was 16. Went to the University of Lowell
in Mass. As a piano major for a short time. Did some industrial stuff
for a few years; played in clubs in Hartford. Found techno in 91-92.
Played at the Limelight in 92 live with Taylor [Deupree]. Didn't
send tapes to record labels for years. Formed P909 in early 93 with
Taylor. Wrote the first CD in one weekend; Jason [Szsotek] stopped by and
we finished the album with him. Instinct Records signed it the next
day; we signed a bad deal. The CD came out on my 21st birthday.
I had moved to NYC a little before that with only $200 in my pocket."
"P909 became a live thing. I started to DJ at ambient parties
and released an ambient record. 94 was a lot of recording
and gigging. 1995 was the year of many releases: 2 P909 CDs,
Facil and Escape Tank on Instinct. More gigs, etc. I started
to DJ again; more techno this time. Joined the Tension Records family
full time. Left Instinct where I had been working for 2 ½
years. A few deaths in my family slowed me down for a bit."
"96 saw Unit Park appear (the Rancho Relaxo Allstars). DJing
a lot of techno parties around the world. Acid is dead. P909
was still touring and fighting the contract with Instinct. 97: Marduk
release on Sonic Groove. Video for Marduk (produced by eno-one) on
MTV's AMP. The second Unit Park EP released. Booked up DJing
and playing live almost every weekend of the year. New Prototype
909 CD (the last), new Unit Park CD, and first solo album coming out in
Novemeber." Pezboy: How specifically did Instinct screw you over? Any
advice for producers who are in the process of signing to a label?
Dietrich: Hmmm... Instinct.
It's hard for me to dis them too hard, 'cause I learned a
lot while working there. But we signed a LONG deal for too little
money considering the strictness of the contract - a 5 album deal with
only a little in advance to start. But we didn't know any better.
We also couldn't do anything under the name [Prototype 909] anywhere else
without their permission. So advice to someone starting out would
be: if you're signing a long term contract, it can be good, because that
means the label is willing to support and promote you. But make sure
the initial advance is good! And for people who want to be on a 'bigger'
label, but also want to make sure that they can release other material
wherever they choose: sign an exclusive 'project name' - Not your real
name. P: You've just announced the breakup of Prototype 909.
What led up to this decision? Creative differences? Boredom?
D: Hmmm... Well, P909 has always
been two sided, not three sided - so that aspect was never fair to the
third member. It boiled down to that situation getting to a point
where it was hard to fix. We've been thrown off planes for our heated
discussions, usually over who got to hit on the cute stewardess.
It took us over two years to get another album done (that was also slowed
down because of the Instinct contractual dilemnas). We had the usual
band miscommunication problems. It was a good time, and we reached not
quite 100 live shows. The new P909 CD is a good representation of
where things came to be in the studio. We didn't reach our potential
together on every minute of the CD, which is sad, because we should have.
The live shows were much better. Three in a studio can be tough -
fighting musicians are not pretty people. P: P909 has sort of
morphed into what is now "Unit Park." Gimme a rundown of the differences
between P909 and Unit Park, both structural and creative.
D: I guess Unit Park morphed from
P909. Taylor and I have always worked together, since the beginning
of P909; but we started to make it a bigger priority with the P909 contract
problems, lack of new material, etc. We played two shows this summer,
much like P909 style with a little more structured techno-house feel, with
the craziness of a P909 show. [note: I saw them at both of these shows,
and at one of them they blew out the monitor. The other was at Dietrich's
own party "Let's Play Doctor" in Brooklyn - five bucks for Surgeon, Prozac,
Abe Duque, John Selway, Stroboscopic, P909... it raged HARD] We have
Unit Park hockey jerseys, and are working on a stage concept of two guys
behind a pile of gear. The video is also in production. A video
that was produced for me by ENO-ONE Designs for my Marduk project on Sonic
Groove Records was aired throughout the summer on MTV's AMP, so we want
to follow that video success with a Unit Park video. One difference
of Unit Park style studiowise is the overall groove... it's
a little groovier. P909 tended to be a little freakier, Jason
being an electro guy. Also now Jason won't be in the studio
eating all the pizza crusts. P909 played Mac games as a break, and
UP plays SegaNHL97 too much. Creatively, P909 definitely loved to
be abstract with a lot of synth sounds, Jason was usually making the 'lead'
lines. UP is more jacky. P909 also had its own 'personality' - not
even a mix of us three, but a completely separate beast. UP is a
mix of Taylor and myself all the way. Comparing the UP CD with the
new P909 CD you may notice that UP is more focused. P909 could never
recreate in the studio what we had been doing live; this shows P909's lack
of communication between all three members. We talked most before
a show, and not as much in the studio. Our last few live shows were
some of our best. Unit Park is not just 2/3 of P909 - it's a completely
separate entity. Hopefully after the CD comes out and we start playing
more shows this will be known. P:
Prototype 909, it strikes me, was a
techno group that was all about jamming. Unit Park, however, has
a distinctly more "mature" sound. Is this due to you and Taylor working
particularly well as a team? Are you growing as artists? Have
you changed the way you make your tracks? D: Prototype 909 was based more on the 'live'
aspect, and that played more of a part than the song concepts. Unit
Park is the only project that Taylor and I are doing now (this is the first
time we're emphasizing on only one project in five years). Also when
we write we'll use any piece of gear, not just analog or one with knobs
and a lot of realtime control. No limits in the studio now.
I'm looking forward to the next album (Trailor Park) already - it's varied
for a techno album. P:
Okay, so how do you guys go about writing
tracks, anyway? Do you start off with a concrete idea and build from
there, or do you mess around until you find something you like, and then
take off? D:
Usually we start with the new synth that Taylor has bought that day...
This album was based on the grooves, so we went to work there first. Lately
we've been starting with melodies and structures as well as the dance floor
production. The actual starting point is always different - depends
on what we've eaten, where we've been the night before... P:
How is techno changing? Where do you see it going? How does
Unit Park fit into your view of techno as a genre? What do you want
to accomplish with Unit Park? D: Ouch, been waiting for you to ask this one.
I've been listening to a batch of mixtapes I've been given recently.
All are good, but they bore me completely. There is change needed
more than ever in electronic music. The past 5-6 years have had their
peaks, but... There is so much disposable electronic music now; I
have fueled this also at times with some tracks, DJing minimal, etc.
I think that there needs to be more soul 'in the machines.' A lot
of producers have been only doing work 'for' the machines. That's
a crazy sound, but make it say something more than that's a crazy sound.
I'm still into a lot of minimal; there are still dozens of new 12"s every
week, so some are bound to do a little something new. As for Unit
Park, we want to work at the live shows as much as the studio, and vice
versa. That's all I can say - we have a master plan, but it will
be seen soon enough... Our sound is 'minimal-full' if that makes
sense - a little of the minimal style but with more interesting changes,
new sounds, some bass lines, and a little quirkiness. P: What's
the deal with tours? Going to be playing out as Unit Park a lot?
Would you like to play out as a DJ more than you currently do?
D: Unit Park has started to tour
with a few October/November dates - one in Mexico. We will be playing
out 1-2 times a month until the spring, when we'll work on a concentrated
tour. I DJ in spells; I was playing 2-3 times a week in the summer,
but I haven't pushed to spin at all in the fall, just a few gigs here and
there. It's not easy to find time to write, perform live shows, DJ,
and run a booking company without only having music on your mind.
I do need to play a few times a month to stay in 'shape.' I'm playing
a house set on Holloween in Memphis... should be interesting. P: What
artists do you look up to? Within electronic dance music? Outside
of electronic stuff? D:
I'm mainly listening to classical and opera now, a great change of pace.
As far as electronic: older Luke Slater 12"s, Christian Vogel, Richard
James CDs, a lot of my friends' records - Taylor's, Savva's, Neil and the
Scotland crew. I also listen to a lot of darker music - ambient.
This Mortal Coil, etc. My biggest influences over the years don't
seem to show up with what I'm doing now; I was into punk/hardcore, and
then industrial as a teenager, F242, MBM, Cabaret Voltaire of course.
P: This
past summer I went to your Brooklyn party "Let's Play Doctor." It
kicked total ass. What's your deal with throwing parties?
D: Presently I'm on a mission
to throw good parties in NYC; we lack parties with the spirit that I fell
in love with years ago. The parties are better in Eastbumfuck than
they are here; there is no reason for that. The best DJs in NYC don't often
play here. I'm also going to bring a bunch of people to the states
who haven't been seen before - mainly the crazy ones that the other countries
are trying to get rid of. P:
Gimme the lowdown on your philosophies
of 'rave.' D:
Huh. This whole 'movement' was started by people who were into the
whole thing. At early parties, no one was trying to look like everyone
else, take as many pills as they could, or bring their 12 year old neighbor
with them. The respect for the music isn't there anymore; for a 'movement'
based more or less around the music, there has to be respect. Too
many promoters are out to make $$$, not a good party or event. Look
at other parts of the world - the music is respected by a more mature crowd.
Electronic music is not looked on as 'cyber music' or out of the norm.
Americans are afraid of change. How many kids own a synth or drum
machine or sampler now? Techno has to move to the clubs over here.
It has to a point in Canada. As for drugs and alcohol, how
can you say one poison is worse than the other? All I know is most
of my friends are more up for a drink than a pill. I'm working
on an every other thursday club here in NYC; 'weekend' DJs on a thursday.
I want to start something away from the present scene; fuck these promoters
that will only promote for you if they get 10 comps and their stupid voicemail
on the flier... what's that all about?... one number for a party will do.
The only promoters I'll work with are down for the cause, not their wallet
or image. Some of the biggest DJs won't play big events in the U.S.;
we've scared them to stay in Europe or fly over there to play only.
Selected Discography
P909 Acid Technology CD/EP P909
Transistor Rhythm CD/EP P909 'The Kids
Dont Care" EP P909 'Joined at the Head'
CD/EP Dietrich Schoenemann 'untitled'
Dietrich Schoenemann 'untitled'
Dietrich Schoenemann 'Pluto-Circuits'
Facil CD UNIT PARK 'Mosquito' EP UNIT
PARK 'Digital Mobile Funk' EP UNIT PARK
Trailor Park CD/EP Marduk EP 'Classical
Diversions EP' Marduk 'Enhancement Purposes'
EP Dietrich Schoenemann 'Decoder'
EP Dietrich Schoenemann 'Hidden Agenda'
LP/CD Disko B RanchoRelaxoAllstarsvolume1
Cd EOX-Acid New York EP
| Instinct Records 1993 Instinct
Records 1993 Schmer Records 1997
Caipirinha Music 1997 Tension Music Vol.3 Tension 1996 Tension
Music Vol.4 Tension 1997 Rancho Relaxo
1995 Instinct
Records 1995 Plastic City US 1996
Plastic City US 1997 Plastic City US November 1997 Sonic
Groove November 1997 Sonic Groove 1996
E.M.F. 1996 late
97 ????? DiskoB
1996 Hollis Haus 1995
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