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The Creature Forum was held on Wednesday evening, April 15, 1998, conducted by GM Lord Metaephor Aanshar (Aephir), with additional information by GM, Lord Banthis Verist.


[Global Assembly Room]
The room is so full you can see nothing around you! The only thing that you can make out is the stage with a podium on it. A lone light shines down upon the podium.
Obvious exits: out.

Metaephor calls the assembly to order. After a moment the crowd quiets down.

Metaephor takes the lid off the question box. Use ASK to submit a question.

Metaephor says, "I'm gonna open up by telling you a bit about what I've done over the past six months with critters here in GemStone III"

Metaephor says, "Last fall I accepted a position with the Hercules and Xena design team"

Metaephor says, "When gave me the reigns there, and as I started to work on the critters there, I realized I could build a common code base that would work for the critters there...and the critters here."

Metaephor says, "So...last fall I designed from the ground up a new base critter system for GemStone III"

Metaephor says, "What you have now started to see in some of the areas, are the fruits of my labors"

Metaephor says, "The new base control script, gives us a lot more flexibility, and as folks learn the new system...we will be able to produce new complex critters at a faster pace than ever before"

Metaephor says, "right now, I'm in the process of converting the old critters to the new system as well as pumping out some new critters"

Metaephor says, "That's basically the long and short of it"

Metaephor says, "I'm gonna work through some questions and work off the questions"

Metaephor says, "Tavarion says, 'There are no creatures over 30 that give treasure only to repel, and as far as I know, the only such creature created in the last two years were the dark apparitions, level 5. Do you have plans to introduce such creatures any more?'"

Metaephor says, "Yes"

Metaephor grins.

Metaephor whistles tunelessly to himself.

Metaephor says, "Actually, I've implemented with the new code a few new ways for critters to depart this earth"

Metaephor says, "You'll be seeing them. But one of the things I did, was add an easy way for critters that give treasure only to Repel to be added"

Metaephor says, "Tavarion says, 'And on a larger note, are we going to see more creatures with their TD balanced to be repelled by a like-age cleric, particularly older than soul golems?'"

Metaephor closes the question box.

Metaephor says, "Yes. You should get to see a wider variety of critters with TDs that range from easy to hard for the older folks over the coming months."

Metaephor says, "Tavarion says, 'And on a larger note, are we going to see more creatures with their TD balanced to be repelled by a like-age cleric, particularly older than soul golems?'"

Metaephor blinks.

Metaephor coughs.

Metaephor says, "Ramze says, 'Will we ever see critters shooting bows an arrows at our arse? and maybe some archers kin get some free arrows from dem?'"

Metaephor says, "Yes, critters will gain the ability to use the bow and arrow. The mechanics are in the combat system, but not yet in the critter base script. I wouldn't expect before the end of summertime though."

Metaephor says, "Aschren says, 'I've seen the greater and lesser vruul about; any chance thier middlin kin the plain ole vruul will show themselves? And, will greater vruul ever get a regular home of thier own?'"

Metaephor says, "GM Sayzor was the one working on Greater Vruul. I expect to see them sometime in the future gain a home of their own, however, I don't know of any current plans to do so."

Metaephor says, "Astrella says, 'What is your view or Simu's view on empaths hunting? And will the older critters coming out soon be huntable by empaths, ie, bindable?'"

Metaephor says, "Personally, I don't mind empaths hunting, however, I would never expect, as an empath, to be a great hunter...prolly a decent one. Some of the elder critters will be bindable, however, they will be in the minority."

Metaephor says, "Veilgart says, 'what are the upper age ranges of the critters gonna be?'"

Metaephor says, "Right now the eldest critter in the critter queue is 150th level"

Metaephor says, "I expect that we will continue to create critters to try and keep up with demand and the age of players."

Metaephor says, "Ezair says, 'My great kousin, Pipershadow, was wondering if we kould see a taste of satyr!'"

Metaephor says, "the satyr are coming, but I can't show a preview yet...other than that they are not very old, but will provide a stiff challenge to their age range."

Metaephor says, "Tsalin says, 'What new critters can we expedct'"

Metaephor says, "that's a loaded question"

Metaephor grins.

Metaephor says, "Right now in my queue are about 70 critters in all age ranges"

Metaephor says, "However, I'll be focusing on the upper level ranges"

Metaephor says, "75+"

Metaephor says, "names and whatnot I won't go into tonight ;)"

Metaephor says, "Shaiyaa says, 'meta will critters ever get ranged weapons? and what is the incentive for us to use ranged weapons after years of using OHE'"

Metaephor says, "I answered the first part earlier and..."

Metaephor says, "I can't honestly say what the particular incentives would be for folks to use ranged. It's a personal choice, I always liked maces and morning stars myself."

Metaephor winks.

Metaephor says, "Briars says, 'Is there any expected time that older creatures will arrive?'"

Metaephor says, "Good question"

Metaephor says, "The answer is..."

Metaephor says, "Yes"

Metaephor says, "But I'm not to announce the planned dates for the new (especially the older critters) because I don't want to disappoint you folks again. But it is all I'm working on, I can tell you that."

Metaephor says, "Perigee says, 'are we getting any older critters soon?'"

Metaephor says, "See above."

Metaephor says, "Duelstar says, 'Why are the generation of greater Vruul and Ice elementals so limited? Greater Vruul show up 1 an hour seems like and Ice elementals are hardly ever seen. In other words why aren't they as prevalent as other critters such as stone giants, sand devils, or the like?'"

Metaephor says, "I can't answer the Greater Vruul question because I don't control that particular area"

Metaephor says, "I can tell you that the ice elementals have a home all their own...about...50 rooms worth if I remember correctly...it'll be released when Aenatumgana is released"

Metaephor says, "Vaeyre says, 'How're the Ilvari doing? What area'll they be in?'"

Metaephor says, "The Ilvari have recently been dusted off and should be making their debut in the not so distant future."

Metaephor says, "Graing says, 'when will 100+ critters be released and what can ye tell us about em?'"

Metaephor says, "I won't give a date, but I can tell you that they are dangerous and, I think, fun. :)"

Metaephor says, "there is a wide variety of new critters, including undead and living, as well as a few new critter types that I designed when I revamped the system."

Metaephor says, "Therrek says, 'Will we be seeing older creatures so people like Blades and Simmer don't have to pick boxes? Specifically Undead, cause I find it strange that Volnites outlive our duty to Voln and Lorminstra.'"

Metaephor says, "See above."

Metaephor says, "Ghedrix says, 'Are there gonna be more varieties of skeletons, would like to see more undead as well, those bein' created?'"

Metaephor says, "More skeletons...I know that there is both a skeletal warrior and a skeletal soldier in development as well as a few lich type critters."

Metaephor says, "Loklor says, 'why do you guys focus more on the age range of critters that already exist rather than the age range that dont exist yet? ie level 30 vs 100'"

Metaephor says, "Well this has been answered many times in different ways, but the main thrust is, we allocate resources where our population exists. However, in the past, the population has outstripped development by a long shot. Now, with the new critter system, I'm hoping we can at least keep up somewhat with growth. :)"

Metaephor says, "Silkie says, 'will there be old creatures on the isle'"

Metaephor says, "Yes"

Metaephor says, "I've been tapped to design a few new critters for the Isle and already have some "sketches" done."

Metaephor says, "They are in the 65-100 lvl range"

Metaephor says, "Arcainis says, 'can we have some lesser dragons to hunt?

'"

Metaephor says, "No."

Metaephor says, "Ithross says, ''What is the Strongest oldest monster comin up? '"

Metaephor cackles!

Metaephor says, "Prolly the Vvrael"

Metaephor says, "Frorin says, 'where will the new creaturs be found? any in the old areas?'"

Metaephor says, "New areas, old areas...both really :)" Metaephor says, "Jecquelynn says, 'Metaephor, how old are critters gonna be in Solhaven?'"

Metaephor says, "I think there is going to be a nice range of levels there. "

Metaephor says, "Anenduin says, 'Are the new critters gonna more resistant to Wizard bolt spells? How about all majick over all?'"

Lyredaen just arrived.

Banthis leans on Lyredaen.

Metaephor says, "Some will, some will not. We're trying to add greater variety and depth to our critter lineup"

Metaephor just hugged Lyredaen.

Metaephor just hugged Banthis.

Banthis just tickled Metaephor.

Metaephor says, "Solhaven will open with the 1-30 lvl range covered, beyond that is unclear at this time :)"

Metaephor says, "Dizman says, 'what kind of creature are in store for the future? how old and what will they be like?'"

Metaephor says, "See all of the above..."

Metaephor says, "We have 3 new critter types beyond your normal and your undead critters...no one has seen them yet, but you will..."

Banthis says, "Solhaven is a launching-off point to a much bigger section of the map."

Banthis stares off into space.

Lyredaen leans on Banthis.

Metaephor says, "When I say new critter types I mean that much like there are certain rules in how you have to handle the undead, you will have certain rules in dealing with the new critter types."

Metaephor says, "Raistlann says, 'why dont us sorcerer's feel like were getting the good end of the stick?'"

Metaephor asks, "Cause your not?"

Metaephor whistles tunelessly to himself.

Metaephor says, "Well, actually, I play a sorcerer and I don't have a hard time hunting, and I am neither old nor optimized"

Metaephor says, "There will be something for everyone as we continue to create critters with a greater variety of abilities and... weaknesses"

Metaephor says, "I'm gonna take a short 5 minute break and then re-open the floor for follow up questions :)"

Metaephor opens the floor back up for general discussion.

Metaephor suddenly fades out of sight.

Banthis blinks.

Banthis exclaims, "gawd he left me with this crowd!"

Chooey asks, "how much longer til solhaven will open?"

Sassee says, "I thought Sol Haven was for legends"

Wyanthia asks, "What's Aenatumgana?"

Essital says, "I dunno, I think he is being honest and forthright"

Duelstar asks, "am I the only one who dont think we've gotten solid answers?"

Astrella says, "No, Aenatumgana is for legends."

Gespry says, "aye, aged based, like teras, dark stone or something"

Bronwen asks, "is Solhaven gonna be a newbie town?"

Hypherdol says, "& he jus workin on the isle critters"

Xenosphere says, "Oh.. thats easy.. Yes.. New monsties.. yes older ones.. When.. Later on"

Kaesha says, "How is it that a Critter (say a Black bear or even the Minotaurs) can Maul someone that is twice their age into an unbelievable stun or even kill, even if they are passed the peak point of 140 in Combat Manuevers? Seems a lil hard to believe to me, is that what we have to look forward to? I guess that would make less solo hunters like the ole days, but seems a lil unreasonable especially to profession that aren't CM based.( casters )"

Thomasl asks, "any hints on what is gonna happen in a day or two?"

Aschren says, "Banthis, put in a word to Sayzor on the Vruul? lots of folk what more big bats about"

Dramada says, "some critters are easier for some classes than others"

Banthis chuckles.

Dramada says, "that is balance"

Narog says, "Yeah as usual us Rangers nekked when we hunt."

Shadowtip asks, "The Vvrael are going to be huntable, eh?"

Ohr asks, "any update on greymist Banthis?"

Banthis says, "yah well I can't answer you all at once."

Taz says, "I like the fact that many critters kill any age.....more realistic....what is unrealistic is me goin up against 100 kobolds and surviving..."

Wyanthia says, "I didnt like what I heard about Vvrae"

Ezair asks, "Hey Banthis... know how the Rogue's Guild is komig?"

Mhyraaja says, " because thjey are very dangeroud and we shoulsnt be able ta whipe em out too easy"

Thomasl asks, "any hints on what is gonna happen in a day or two?"

Banthis says, "Nothing on Greymist actually.. my attentions have turned elsewhere for the moment."

Banthis says, "Rogues? Not my area."

Raistlann says, "i think they outta up the TD on all critter's by 30 or more"

Wyanthia asks, "but how can we defeat Vvrael?"

Wyanthia frowns.

Taz asks, "Archery is tho right Banthis?"

Wyanthia asks, "by praying?"

Ohr says, "what about rangers?:D"

Banthis says, "sort of as a side thing :)"

Pherlytt asks, "ranger companions -- when?"

Silkie exclaims, "Give us pets!"

Narog says, "Yeah Rangers,good place to start."

Therrek asks, "Hey Banthis.. any new manuevers attacks headin' our way?"

Welan asks, "Banthis....do you guys get combat pay for these Forums?"

Stonenkin says, "Thank ye fer the work on thorns Banthis"

Pherlytt says, "give them pets"

Banthis asks, "pay? what's that?"

Thomasl asks, "any hints on what is gonna happen in a day or two?"

Dryxler asks, "Banthis, has Ophion submitted the revised cleric spell list to you yet?"

Ithross asks, "Is a bard guild bein looked into?"

Quantaron says, "Uh the 50 types are all just different types of rats: huge rat, humongous rat, gigantic rat, really big rat, really REALLY big rat, big friggin rat, giant rat pulsating with power, rat elemental, greater giant rat, lesser giant rat, rat devils... you get the idea."

Quantaron ducks his head.

Banthis nods to Dryxler.

Chooey asks, "banthis how much longer til solhaven will be opening?"

Zuuts asks, "Can we expect any surprises like critters that empath healin' hurts, or that return an attack with the force of the attacker, or critters that require cooperation of players to kill, that sort of tricky stuff?"

Banthis says, "It's in discussion now.. looks real good."

Xenosphere asks, "The greater vruul rat?"

Dryxler says, "ooh, wonderful"

Welan asks, "oh yeah....uh...I meant Gruel?"

Dramada says, "When is Engagement system coming or is it planned at all? I would like to see some limited engage critter. Because 20 people group attacking one critter is really unrealistic, you would figure they would have a chance of hitting each other in such tight melee and confusion. I think it would eleviate some of the complaints of poaching and such."

Ashren asks, "Banthis, can we yell more questions at ye ?"

Frorin asks, "yeh wots gonna happen in a day or two?"

Arwen says, "You weren't expecting him to say yes."

Andiago says, " I got a bit to ask.. I like the idea of the new .. very old critters.. and itll be a great and all.. but we need some new places for the growing newbie population.. and what is with ranger.. why can they only cast certin spells outdoors.. it should be in all nature.. and not just outdoors.. like in a cave.. Im sure there would be a place to camoflage yourself so noone can see you and all.. I mean.. give the rangers a lil'break there"

Silkie asks, "How are the ranger pets going Banthis?"

Scorpioun asks, "Will we be able to hunt Helga in the near future? And will she swing a warkeg and have belly crits?"

Shadowtip says, "No engagement system...ES is evil..."

Xenosphere says, "Aye.. how bout bard pets"

Banthis says, "Pentar and I are discussing that, Silkie."

Banthis says, "not much else."

Dramada says, "not in a limited way Shadowtip"

Narog says, "Forget the pets,give us protection spells."

Lyredaen chuckles.

Ithross exclaims, "Bard Pets??!!"

Silkie says, "phooey"

Banthis says, "the system I designed is quite advanced."

Xenosphere says, "Illus Creature.. what else would it be"

Dramada says, "lets say you code that only 6 can engage a critter"

Banthis says, "we're determining how to make it work."

Raistlann says, "all i know is a warrior can demolish a sorcerer in a duel these days"

Duelstar asks, "umm...been determining for how long?"

Lyredaen says, "There's a forum next month for bards."

Pherlytt asks, "is there a foreseeable release on them though, Banthis?"

Frescalus says, "heh, not as good as a wizard controlling a pet but sufficiant I suppose"

Jecquelynn says, "depends on the warrior and depends on the sorceror.."

Gaale says, "Banthis.... why is it that with the current defenition of experience being what it is. That is actually having a trouble killing something. Why is it that Empaths, even though they have trouble killing levels less than their age in some cases cant learn from those creatures even though they are tough? Same with Minotaurs."

Banthis says, "For Animal Companions? Surely."

Dramada says, "or limit it to a certain number of people with close range weapons and allow cast and ranged on a critter"

Banthis says, "just don't know when."

Dramada says, "but 20 swingin on one critter is a lot"

Ezair asks, "What all areas are you working on?"

Xenosphere says, "quick critter"

Raistlann says, "if the warrior is in the guild the sorcerer is rather helpless"

Ghakin asks, "Hey Banthis, about the Vvreal, we gonna be able to travel through the veil and hunt there or something?"

Narog says, "Ya know Banthis once Rangers could be considered well-balanced but not this day an age."

Zuuts asks, "What about critters that require mulitple player types to defeat, any plans there?"

Thomasl asks, "I've heard that there are plans to build an area for newer Lords on Teras, any truth to that?"

Raistlann says, "cause we cant up our defense again'st tackles, but they can get spell's easy"

You hear the voice of Dizman exclaim, "what is happening in 2 or 3 days!"

Matubaa says, "yea, travel threw the veil and hun "

Darcmystic says, "Cause most warriors need spells to up there TD enough that we wont hit em"

Kaesha says, "Empaths can learn from healing still, so if they can't hunt they got other avenues..."

Truekillr says, "I always wondered how regular folks can use holy water , but sanctified weapns dont have it..."

Banthis says, "That's a Metaphor question [Vvrael]"

Truekillr frowns.

Ghakin says, "Well, how else we gonna get to them"

Songowl says, "well, just a saying..."the longer you let the pot stew, the greater the chance it boils over""

Aschren nods to Truekillr.

Noonee asks, "Isn't this just a bit disorganized?"

Amadeus says, "I hope one of those 3 new critters types are killable with bad songs"

Dramada says, "why do you base DF redux on spells that makes no sense it should be based solely on physical skills learned"

Ghakin says, "Fine, I'll remember to ask him"

Banthis says, "heh.. I'm getting about one question in ten.. that's not bad."

Aschren says, "yea, Truekillr, I'd love a taste of my own critts"

Ghakin says, "Well, ya got to my question, I'm happy"

Xenosphere says, "Aye.. would be fun to have to have a spell from each profession to get into an area for group like hunts"

Truekillr nods to Aschren. to himself.

Duelstar says, "heh, tha Vvrael thing has been dragged out too much me thinks."

You hear the voice of Dizman say, "aye that is a good idea"

Taz asks, "Banthis...i got a serious question...don't ya think there a need for archery forum?"

Jeldharr asks, "Dramada, think about it...a sorcerer with great defenses and thick skin too? Can you say...powerful?"

Ezair asks, "What exactly is Greymist?"

Banthis says, "My big project right now is to spearhead the development of Demons in GemStone III. My role there is design lead and I've got quite a few good people working on it."

Quantaron says, "The new monster is "premies". We're level 200, have every spell, and uh... um... actually, just forget it."

Dramada says, "yes if they trained "

Bizio says, "What needs to stop - are the invasions without purpose or explenation, II think at least."

Ezair exclaims, "demons?!"

Ghakin says, "Good project"

Kaesha asks, "Banthis, You gonna come dressed up to SimuCon again?"

Dramada says, "and only got one spell a training or such"

Banthis says, "Apart from that I'm the guy people come to for game proposals before they're sent up to the product managers"

Dramada says, "it's realistic"

Thomasl asks, "I've heard that there are plans to build an area for newer Lords on Teras, any truth to that?"

Darcmystic says, "a sorcerer will never have thick skin"

Ohr says, "well while we wait for the older critters, we sure can use more invasion big or small Banthis:D"

Pherlytt says, "demons"

Dramada says, "I don't give a rat about balance I give about realism"

Aschren says, "oooo demons"

Delileah asks, "I wanna know how we can hunt vvrael.. they have no physical form at all do they? can ya splain more bout them as unlife?"

Jecquelynn asks, "soo..what kind of demons?"

Ghakin asks, "Banthis, for younger sorcerers, are there going to be imps summoned before demons?"

Kaillen says, "I like the invasions without purpose or explanation. If there was a plot behind every one we'd be playin' a soap opera."

Melaneus asks, "any clues on when we gonna see some demons?"

Banthis looks over at Ghakin and shakes his head.

Truekillr says, "They have a form"

Chiann says, "Invasions are a joke."

Frescalus says, "heh, my guess is Greymist for the newer lords and ladies"

Jeldharr says, "Dramada, get your nose out of those books and you might be physical too."

Ghakin frowns at Banthis.

Narog says, "Sorcs dont need anymore spells,Rangers do."

Scorpioun says, "heh, imps"

Gespry says, "aye..send about a hundered lost souls to teras "

Frescalus says, "but then again"

Dramada says, "I am "

Banthis chuckles.

Dramada winks.

Silkie says, "oooh...what was with those reiver chieftains the other morning? And we couldnt call lightening on them"

Amadeus says, "Banthis is so powerful... I'm so glad him and Lyredaen are such close "friends"... hehe..."

Matubaa says, "Demons are not just sorcerer toys"

Ghakin says, "Demon summoning isnt an easy spell to attain"

Thomasl says, "actually we've had some frequent invasions lately Ohr but they end too quick"

Frorin says, "I just want to know who was respocible for them Reiver cheiftans.. ::mutter::"

Xenosphere says, "I'd like to see older creatures close to landin"

Tavarion asks, "So, Banthis, want to give us any hints on what Ophion's proposal covered?"

Frescalus says, "they hand out in Kharam-Dzu too much"

Taz says, "Little sorcerers get into enough trouble without having spawns from below egging them on"

Nighthawk says, "greymist is open...leads right to my front door"

Nighthawk winks at Banthis.

Darcmystic says, "Yeah how many sorc spells do I use when I hunt... 2"

Zuuts asks, "How about critters whose AS and DS are a function of the attackers AS and DS?"

Bizio says, "They need another floor to DS."

Banthis says, "Spells spells and more spells..."

Lyredaen babbles something unintelligible.

Banthis grins.

Aschren nods.

Truekillr exclaims, "Aye hints on the cleric list!"

Anenduin asks, "Banthis, Is there gonna be more forums on professions say a nice long forum about wizards and their spells?"

Aschren says, "aye"

Matubaa says, "Ghakin, there are no 'to play with' spells on the sorcerer list"

Xris says, "we just need a few rat swarms in town "

Ezair asks, "What exactly is Greymist?"

Ezair peers quizzically at Banthis.

Raistlann says, "i think if anyone asked a few more question's at once his head would explode"

Ghakin peers quizzically at Matubaa.

Matubaa says, "Cept maybe disease, tha's fun t' play with"

Matubaa says, "Oh, oh, limb disrupt to"

Dramada says, "or limit it to a certain number of people with close range weapons and allow cast and ranged on a critter"

Banthis says, "Possibly when we find a suitable replacement for Panashe."

Ghakin says, "Imps seem like a fitting spell to me"

Ghakin shrugs.

Aschren says, "gonna have to start some cult or something"

Darcmystic says, "Yeah but not useful in just huntin really"

Gespry says, "have a ale, Banthis..medicine for a parched throat"

Xenosphere says, "I think empies should be able to give woulds to"

Gaale says, "Banthis.... why is it that with the current defenition of experience being what it is. That is actually having a trouble killing something. Why is it that Empaths, even though they have trouble killing levels less than their age in some cases cant learn from those creatures even though they are tough? Same with Minotaurs."

Banthis says, "Actually Arwen, I'm getting my second wind."

(Andiago knows Banthis' head is spinning)

Banthis grins.

Ezair asks, "Greymist...?"

You hear the voice of Dizman exclaim, "yer on quantaron!"

Arwen smiles at Lyredaen.

Ghakin says, "And it was discussed much on the message boards"

Duelstar says, "lets see, 7 more years fer Demons, 10 more years for Vvrael saga to end, 15 more years for all the level 1-150 critters to be implemented....thas a pretty relistic view of it all."

Taz says, "Err, didn't know Panasche was gone....haven't practiced wizardry in a bit"

Banthis grins.

Silkie says, "GS time line is always 18 months I thought"

Wyanthia asks, "In real life?"

Wyanthia cringes.

Jeldharr says, "Gaale, I think the reason empaths cannot hunt well is they can heal well..."

Dramada says, "oh and don't forget the rogue guild around the corner "

Matubaa says, "Ghakin, imps will be summoned WITH the summon demonic spell, just used different. No need to waste a spell slot"

Duelstar says, "but its true."

Duelstar shrugs.

Ohr says, "why need demons when you have Thalior and Blades"

Ghedrix says, "precisely."

Gaale says, "jeldharr... I understand that."

Metaephor suddenly fades into sight beside you.

Metaephor calls the assembly to order. After a moment the crowd quiets down.

Banthis just tried to pull Metaephor towards him!

Banthis exclaims, "You left me here!"

Banthis says, "yes"

Banthis grins.

Metaephor cackles!

Lyredaen pokes Metaephor in the ribs.

Metaephor takes the lid off the question box. Use ASK to submit a question.

Metaephor says, "The box is now open for follow up questions"

Metaephor closes the question box.

Metaephor says, "Xathar says, 'Any possibility of seeing any return of dragons or signs of dragons in the near future? Also, what killed ya b'fore the meeting tonight? ;)'"

Metaephor says, "heh"

Metaephor says, "I could answer the second part, but then I'd have to unleash them here..."

Metaephor whistles tunelessly to himself.

Metaephor says, "and I'm afraid I'm in no position to begin to comment on dragons."

Metaephor says, "Dramada says, 'host Is an engagement system coming or can we get a limited one so that hunting can be more realistic? I find a large group engaging and attacking a critter as it stands very unrealistic. I wonder how those people in such confusion and tight fighting melee don't hit each other. I think that would eleviate people complaining about poaching and such.'"

Metaephor says, "that's a good question"

Metaephor says, "but its really not my area to comment on. :) although...I'd be willing to write a new engagement system not unlike the one operating in Xena because it flows very nicely in my humble opinion. You'd really have to take that question up with...oh...hmmm...Banthis..."

Metaephor stares at Banthis.

Metaephor says, "But since this is a critter forum, we'll move on..."

Banthis glances at Metaephor.

Metaephor winks at Banthis.

Banthis nods.

Banthis says, "one reason why we've not seen one yet is because I wouldn't want the game to turn into a difficult mess. :)"

Banthis says, "Our combat is simple yet has quite a bit of strategy to it on some levels."

Banthis says, "that's all I have to say about that. :)"

Metaephor says, "Matubaa says, 'Metaephor, will the older critters be AS, DS, TD, CS critters, or will they be manuver attack based, or both? Towards those higher levels the balance may become more pronounced between profetion, but on the other hand they are gettin +1-+2 a skill per training, so it's not a huge difference. Also when ya say 70 critters, that's from 150 to 0? Is it about 35 over 75, or more younger then older? And I guess one of the new types of critters are the ones Banthis been makein (wink)"

Metaephor says, "More older then younger"

Metaephor grins.

Metaephor says, "They will be AS/DS/TD/CS critters and critters with new special attacks...including straight spirit attacks and possibly sometime in the future a different set of "warding" Additionally, I started sketching out a psion table for mental type attacks/critters...and a new societal concept"

Metaephor stares off into space.

Metaephor says, "Zhap says, 'It seems to be a gap in the critters between age 30 to 40...any plans to increase these numbers?'"

Metaephor says, "Absolutely"

Metaephor says, "Malatos says, 'Ok my question is regarding Sorcs, being im a Sorc...when will we be able to hit stuff? Nothing uses the 3x age formula anymore...look at the pinefar stuff, its all invincible to a Sorcs main form of attack...will any new critters be sorc huntable as easy as some spelled up rogues can? I dont think a 25 year old rogue should be able to do with ease what me as a 35 year old sorc have troubles with'"

Banthis just tickled Nukulus.

Metaephor says, "This goes back to the question of balance and variety. We are striving for both and will continue to do so, both in the conversion of older critters to the new base script system as well as the newer critters coming out."

Metaephor says, "Ithross says, ''So ya mean that finally some things weak gainst bards? And is a bard guild bein looked into?'"

Metaephor says, "I can't answer any bard guild questions"

Metaephor glances at Lyredaen.

Metaephor exclaims, "But I can tell you I've been lobbied to make things easy on bards...although I've steadfastly refused!"

Metaephor cackles!

Lyredaen gives Metaephor a good pinch!

Lyredaen begins pouting.

Metaephor says, "Actually, yes bards ARE people too...and they will have the same opportunities as empaths..."

Metaephor says, "I mean as everyone else..."

Metaephor stares off into space.

Metaephor just tickled Lyredaen.

Lyredaen gazes heavenward.

Lyredaen says, "Don't pay him any mind, he's just teasing. :)"

Metaephor says, "But to answer your question, some of the new critters and the revamped older ones will be taking a look at the new bard songs/and guild skills when they come out and making sure that the bards are not at a loss for abilities."

Metaephor says, "That will include TD tweaks if necessary ;)"

Metaephor says, "Sorry, my ISP is hitching..."

Metaephor says, "Stonenkin says, 'what are your 5 favorite new critters, and yes i mean the ones any sane person would stay away from?'"

Metaephor says, "Well...my favorites..."

Metaephor says, "Let's see...there is the "seeker""

Banthis grins.

Banthis says, "My faves are creatures I haven't finished yet :)"

Metaephor says, "The seekers are undead, fairly high in level, and quite liberal in their use of magic"

Metaephor says, "there are the caedera...you've heard of Rift sharks..."

Metaephor says, "well..."

Metaephor snickers.

Banthis says, "The Kiramon Hive Queen, her Hive Guardians, the various Demons, etc.."

Metaephor says, "the Vvrael tendril are extremely, um, hungry"

Metaephor says, "hmmm"

Metaephor nods to Banthis.

Metaephor says, "Demons are one of the new "classes" of critters"

Metaephor says, "they are *not* undead"

Metaephor says, "Quantaron says, 'Will demons become critters? As in escaped ones that sorcies tried to control. I.e. give us demonic summoning ::flail::! Or a tart monster that seduces wizards... and... forget it.'"

Metaephor says, "Demons will be critters. Both as a possible escapee...and as a possible huntee...(I hope I just didn't reveal too much)"

Metaephor glances at Banthis.

Metaephor ducks his head.

Banthis looks over at Metaephor and shakes his head.

Banthis says, "I'm reserving most of the Demon information for Simucon :)"

Metaephor says, "Frescalus says, 'Will the new wave of critters, as well as some old, be able to persuade people into spreading out and not be crowded to one general area?'"

Metaephor says, "Well...I hope so. I'm also hoping that some of the new abilities and types of critters will encourage folks to spread out."

Banthis says, "I think Metaephor's ISP is about to cave."

Metaephor says, "my apologies, I'm hiccuping again..."

Metaephor says, "wheee"

Metaephor says, "Gaale says, 'Dizman wants to get eaten up by one of your new critters right now. Can you give us a sample. Pwease?'"

Metaephor snickers.

Metaephor says, "Well, I could send Dizman to a place far far away...but then I'm afraid he'd have to reroll and assume a new identity."

Metaephor gestures and a shaft of scintillating light from somewhere above pierces the ceiling and engulfs him. When the light recedes Metaephor is no longer there.

* Metaephor's death cry echoes in your mind!

A shaft of scintillating light suddenly pierces the ceiling and strikes the ground next to you. The beam of light then explodes in a shower of sparks and Metaephor is standing in its place.

Metaephor whistles tunelessly to himself.

Metaephor takes the lid off the question box. Use ASK to submit a question.

Metaephor closes the question box.

Metaephor says, "Last round of Q & A, then I'll open up the floor"

Metaephor says, "and Banthis can answer all your other questions"

Metaephor whistles tunelessly to himself.

Banthis glances at Metaephor.

Lyredaen stares off into space.

Metaephor winks at Banthis.

* Metaephor just bit the dust!

Banthis points at Metaephor.

Plasma blasts a gaping hole in Metaephor's abdomen. Internal organs broil and explode in a bloody spray. Skeletal structure and muscle are melted instantly. All that remains is a pile of smoking ashes.

* Metaephor has been incinerated!

* Metaephor drops dead at your feet!

Lyredaen stifles a giggle.

Lyredaen rolls Metaephor over.

Banthis whistles tunelessly to himself.

Metaephor says, "Janco says, 'Will it be possible to Voln Fu the new undead affectively? Such that, will Voln Fu be an affective primary form of attack at higher levels?'"

Metaephor says, "Against some undead, yes."

Metaephor says, "Randiin says, 'I don't know if this is a mute point.. But with all the discussion about OHC, how is this going to effect the new critters.. or is it going even to exist? And how about critters which have the hit and run style of attack? Will anything like that exist. I mean.. they show up.. strike and run to another room.. repeat, repeat...'"

Banthis says, "One handed casting requirements are still in the "gee, should we even bother?" stage."

Metaephor nods to Banthis.

Banthis says, "It's not something that is even on the plate at this time."

Metaephor says, "And right now, it hasn't even gotten near the stage of how it would affect critters."

Banthis says, "The creatures who "hit and run" are a drawback of the old philosophy of "if I can't hit the person, he's probably annoyed that I'm even there and much older than me" so they run automatically to be less of a nuisance."

Metaephor says, "Scorpioun says, 'Any chance of you telling what the other two types of critters will be? Also..you mentioned new society concepts?'"

Metaephor grins.

Metaephor says, "Society stuff I won't comment other that I'm involved but haven't done more than sketch ideas for multiple new societies"

Metaephor says, "The other two new types of critters"

Banthis says, "neat ideas tho :)"

Metaephor glances at Banthis.

Metaephor asks, "Think I should tell?"

Banthis asks, "the society ideas or the new critter types?"

Metaephor says, "new critter types"

Banthis says, "oh sure"

Metaephor says, "Well we're going from two critter types to five"

Metaephor says, "the two original were: undead and your basic living critter"

Metaephor says, "the three new are demonic and I won't comment on that beyond the name so don't bother asking"

Banthis chuckles.

Metaephor says, "the other two I guess you could call magical and anti-magical"

Metaephor says, "the magical critters are infused with magic/mana in such a way as to actually require magic or a magic weapon to hit them"

Metaephor says, "much in the same way you are required to swing a blessed blade at an undead critter"

Metaephor says, "you must swing a blade infused with magic at a magical critter"

Metaephor says, "the anti-magical critters, well...the name should be obvious, but they are nigh impervious to magic...basically you can throw stones and swing sticks at em ;)"

Metaephor says, "some absorb magic, some repel it, some just shrug it off"

Metaephor says, "just as there are many different "kinds" of undead... but they all share some commonalities, so indeed, are the magical and the anti-magical critters"

Metaephor says, "Songowl says, 'Minotaurs. Extremely dangerous with an instantly fatal charge attack in a very remote and difficult to reach region. Thus, many instances of decay occur there, and as such barely anyone dares to set foot in the place for such a young creature. Do you feel this is a mistake, and are changes planned?'"

Lyredaen suddenly fades out of sight.

Metaephor says, "I feel that the minotaur is a very nicely done area and that the critters may need to be watch carefully and the usage of the area monitored to ensure that the area provides what the creator intended it to."

Metaephor says, "Ultrinnan says, 'I've heard rumors of a type of creature that only empaths can affect, via healin magic some how. Is this really in development?'"

Metaephor says, "There is a GM that was working on such a type of critter, but I honestly don't know anything about the development other than that it was a concept that they wanted to implement."

Metaephor says, "Truekillr says, 'Will the elder critters at least be crittable? I recall someone saying that Unless you are very highly trained in ambush it wont be feasible. does this ambushing cleric have a prayer?!'"

Metaephor says, "Some will, some won't. A 100th lvl spirit will be a 100th lvl spirit...but a 100th lvl shambling corpse will be crittable ;)"

Metaephor says, "Ghakin says, 'Are there any plans for more sentient creatures, or revamping existing ones? Such as, to make them talk to you, hollar warcries, or do anything that makes them seem to have a personality? And are there plans for more creatures with widespread attacks? Such as implosion, and maybe meteor swarm?'"

Metaephor says, "Yes to all of your questions."

Metaephor nods.

Metaephor says, "Dryxler says, 'As to balance: Will the older critters be balanced to different professions? (i.e. a critters warding against an empaths' spells is much less then its' warding against sorceror spells), or will revised spell circles attempt to balance the professions out more (or both or neither)? As of now, the imbalance is huge, and I can't comprehend empaths and clerics competing with everyone else. '"

Banthis says, "I like those types of creatures myself as well. Some that are on my plate will be quite cunning."

Metaephor says, "Yes, balance is something that we'll be looking at very closely when the elder critters are released"

Metaephor says, "There really is meant to be "something for everyone" It may not be perfect, but there should be that opportunity at the higher levels."

Metaephor says, "Wavr says, 'Will There Be New Associations For Hunting The News Creatures Such As Voln '"

Metaephor grins.

Banthis grins.

Metaephor says, "See my earlier comment on possible societal implications"

etaephor whistles tunelessly to himself.

Metaephor takes the lid off the question box. Use ASK to submit a question.

Metaephor closes the question box.

Metaephor says, "heh"

Banthis chuckles.

Metaephor says, "Veilgart says, 'an older (form) of mine was once killed by a spirit hunter summoned by a critter *ahem*...any of the new creatures going to have that ability?'"

Metaephor says, "Yes, one of the new critters will actually pull you away from this "plane" and fight you to the death in their own small corner of existence"

Banthis says, "that's something I always liked about liches, and probably would consider that on another creauture: the ability to gate or summon other of its kind."

Metaephor says, "there will be some pretty snifty special attacks coming down the pike"

Metaephor nods to Banthis.

Metaephor says, "or something scarier ;)"

Metaephor says, "Debia says, 'are there going to be any types of monsters that shapeshift into different monsters? or any kind of monster that turns into an exact replica of the person attacking it?'"

Metaephor says, "a doppleganger is on someone's plate, but not mine "

Metaephor opens the floor back up for general discussion.

Ithross says, "So, can ya show us This Vvrael?? Pretty please? Ill die iffin I have to..Umm An wa was dat spell??"

Metaephor smiles.

Metaephor says, "I wanted thank you all for coming tonight"

Gaale exclaims, "yes when when!"

Tornov asks, "will we see critters that can hide and ambush?"

Banthis says, "Creating the doppleganger would be pretty easy.. teaching it how to fight like the different professions it would change to would be harder. :)"

Scorpioun says, "could we please be able to attack Helga"

Shaiyaa says, "The last thing i want is this place to turn into DR with an engage system. what will prevent this from happening? if it does happen we have no reason to stay here...why not go over to Dragon Realms since their combat system is already ahead? you will lose some people if that happens, we play GS because it is NOT Dragon Realms and is different with combat system. also, would there be any roguish critters such as dark assassins, that wouldnt attack other assassins mainly rogues...such as spell casters n stuff...perhaps the rogue guild could be surrounded by dark assassins as our guards...:Cackle: and fight for terittorial reasons"

Jecquelynn says, "our pleasure"

Ezair asks, "was that plasma?"

Shaiyaa says, "im long winded"

Metaephor says, "and for being so well behaved, I hope I've provided the answers to some of your questions"

Titaniia asks, "errm, just outta curiosity...there arena any new older titans amoungst th' new beasts?"

Wakkez asks, "what type of new attacks might we see, are minotaurs just the beginning of something to come?"

Truekillr says, "ES's are awful. Stick with this combat method and increase social activity is what I say"

Aschren asks, "Will the any of the existing older critters be re-released in populous areas?"

Metaephor says, "I know questions about deadlines can be frustrating, but be patient and you will be rewarded"

Frescalus asks, "Metaephor, any chance you can elaborate on my question a hair more?"

Ithlon begins chuckling at Titaniia.

Valrukar says, "Mayhem"

Silkie asks, "Nothing older than level 100 on the isle?"

Silkie peers quizzically at Metaephor.

Ezair asks, "What was yer question?"

Frescalus says, "Because I find it hard to believe that someone would go to a critter for a challenge anymore"

Dryxler says, "Metaephor, thanks for all the info, and Banthis, nice question dodgin. Ya all have a good night."

Jecquelynn says, "i want more than one Voln monastery"

Zemnh asks, "is anything gonna be done about the rubbing in forums?"

Jecquelynn whimpers.

Duelstar says, "but Meta, you guys been sayin that fer years"

Ghakin asks, "Metaephor, answered, but not specifically... any creatures gonna be summoning meteors?"

Banthis chuckles.

Delileah asks, "if critters can use spirit hunter.. why can't the people that have it in their spells circles was it implement and I just am not aware of it?"

Banthis says, "no thanks. :)"

Ithross asks, "Will there be a tougher place den da isle openin up soon?"

Matubaa says, "Arg, my only question will backfire on me, can't ask it"

Shaiyaa asks, "banthis answer me question please?"

Shaiyaa asks, "or meta?"

Melaneus asks, "What is THE oldest undead on the drawing board?"

Metaephor says, "Minotaurs are the beginning, but I wouldn't assume that all special attacks will be "physical" in nature...my psion attacks are just the tip of the iceberg"

Blizzrd asks, "Might any creatures be created that aren't bloodthirsty? More like the reivers?"

Dizman exclaims, "yeah delileah!"

Truekillr says, "Witches already summon meteors"

Ghakin asks, "Ah, they do?"

Truekillr says, "Youve just been lucky not to get caught in one"

Rupu asks, "Will Charisma be a factor with Demons?"

Ghakin says, "Havent met too many"

Truekillr winks.

Wakkez nods to Metaephor.

Scorpioun says, "I ment to ask about that too"

Silkie asks, "Will there be no creatures older than 100 levels on the isle, Metaephor?"

Ghakin says, "Glad to have avoided them"

Ghakin mumbles something that you don't quite catch.

Ezair asks, "Say Metaephor, HOW young will the satyr be?"

Veilgart says, "no, my other form ...ahem, kinda deserved that tail kicking by that spirit hunter"

Xenosphere asks, "Any areas that are working right now that no one has stumbled into?"

Wyanthia stands up.

Tavarion says, "Ah, mental-based maneuver attacks; those would be fun."

Randiin asks, "Per Hit-and-run, you mentioned running on failure to strike.. I mean running even though successful. Any thoughts on that? Also, on the magic critters... Does that mean they could be killed by leeching all mana from them? Anti-magic critters.. Aren't they like the Lessor Vruul? Or is it more then that?"

Metaephor says, "thats not up to me Silkie"

Wakkez asks, "how bout that plasma that broiled ye body, any hints as to which spell circle might see that type of attack?"

Metaephor smiles.

Welan asks, "um......since ES seems to be in the dumpster any chance to make Multi- Opps somehow usefull.....will it be considered against any of the new critters manuver attacks?"

Delileah peers quizzically at Metaephor.

Ezair says, "Sorcerer"

Ezair winks at Wakkez.

Ezair giggles.

Silkie asks, "who is it up too?"

Metaephor says, "I would guess that the person who owns the Isle would know"

Banthis says, "Like I said, that's one reason why we have no ES at this time. To implement one would just shove us over toward the style of our sister products, and that's not necessarily what i'd want."

Sassee says, "sorcerers are getting plasma hopefully"

Ohr says, "any plan to finish the stone valley quest Aephir?:D"

Taz says, "Mental based attacks....like elder ghoul masters? or was it ancients..."

Frescalus asks, "Metaephor, did you catch what I had ask?"

Truekillr nods to Banthis.

Wakkez says, "yeah, hopefully is the key word there"

Banthis says, "I like the simpler system we have now. We just have to try to work it out in such a way that it doesn't break apart at higher leverls."

Shaiyaa nods to Banthis.

Truekillr says, "Well said."

Shaiyaa says, "Exactly."

Dizman nods to Scorpioun.

Anenduin asks, " Just outah curiosity, Might there be a forum on wizards, and their spells anytime in the future?"

Veilgart says, "look forward to meeting both of you at Simu98"

Sassee says, "Romulous alluded to it months ago"

Veilgart bows to Banthis.

Banthis says, "ok with that I gotta run :)"

Shaiyaa asks, "and about my roguish critter question please banthis?"

Frorin says, " meta how "on the plate" are new societies I have keen intrest since ive resigned or have been retired from both societies ..=("

Rupu asks, "Will Charisma be a factor with Demons?"

Silkie says, "Glad to hear there are no plans for an ES in Gs, Banthis"

Metaephor says, "Aschren, I doubt we'd crowd some of the current populous areas with new critters, but that will depend on the critter, the area, the fit the designer etc etc"

Mistytwilight giggles.

Truekillr nods to Silkie.

Banthis says, "Roguish critters? I've been thinking of a critter that likes to take all the chests and boxes that people leave lieing on the ground :)"

Arwen says, "He's wearing his normal clothes."

Shaiyaa says, "will we have critters that are profession friendly? such as gremlins steal, perhaps they shouldnt attack rogues"

Duelstar asks, "about the time frame, can ya tell us if its a week, month, year, 2 years, 5 years, 10 years?"

Banthis waves. Ezair asks, "Heyo Metaephor, the satyr? How young?"

Wakkez says, "good call on that"

Banthis gestures and a shaft of scintillating light from somewhere above pierces the ceiling and engulfs him. When the light recedes Banthis is no longer there.

Meaus says, "and items Banthis"

Pherlytt says, "aye, and shoots should not thorn rangers"

Duelstar says, "im leanin more towards the 10 years"

Meaus snaps his fingers.

Delileah asks, "if critters can use spirit hunter.. why can't the people that have it in their spells circles was it implement and I just am not aware of it?"

Matubaa says, "hay Banthis, how about makein' that critter pick an' put one on the poarch"

Welan sighs.

Tavarion asks, "Aephir, I have to ask, since you did the Shadow Valley expansion. Do the runes in the new miner area mean anything, or are they just there to keep us frustrated?"

Metaephor says, "Ghakin, Yes, meteor storm will be known by some of the critters I'm working on"

Tornov says, "we have one..tis called Starsnuffer...he just uses "other methods""

Truekillr says, "Thanks for comin back Aephir. We needed ya"

Morgaine says, "More critter mix, Metaephor? magic with anti magic? "

Matubaa asks, "Why the always leave when i talk t' them?"

Truekillr winks at Metaephor.

Aschren says, "meta was thinkin ice wraiths on the glacier near the landing was logical is all :)"

Frorin says, " meta how "on the plate" are new societies I have keen intrest since ive resigned or have been retired from both societies ..=("

Blizzrd says, "Excellent forum, Metaephor. Thank you very much"

Rupu says, "Itd be nice if a few creature could have a few guild skills like tackle and disarm"

Dizman exclaims, "and and and...nothing should attack dizmans!"

Scorpioun says, "Except mes"

Matubaa says, "beards tackle"

Matubaa says, "Err, bears"

Pherlytt says, "yeah diz"

Metaephor says, "Ithross, as soon as The Vvrael quest is over and the rest of Thanatoph opens I'll be working on Yuriqen and the Isle simultaneously"

Matubaa says, "me no want a critter t' disarm"

Silkie says, "Speaking of the Vvrael quest...."

Silkie fidgets.

Ezair asks, "Hey Metaephor! That tusked behemoth on Teras the other day! Will it be a kritter?"

Gespry says, "i would just like to see something implimented....within the month..something in the 75 to 100 range, would give some of us, older people something to play with while yer creating yon older critters"

Morgaine says, "bite your tongue weedmage ..."

Truekillr says, "Lorminstra is doing well at least."

Metaephor says, "Ezair, I think the planned level of the satyr is somehwere between 10-20"

Frescalus sighs.

Shaiyaa asks, "well meta? will people be able to hunt thieves and ambushing critters? and the critters wont attack rogues since we are of their nature...?"

Tornov asks, "any critters that like to hide and ambush us...I think that would be skeery and fun?"

Melaneus asks, "What is THE oldest undead on the drawing board?"

Vaeyre asks, "How old are the critters beyond Illoke's gate in Thanatoph?"

Dizman asks, "I had heard 100+ by the end of january...I assume that was a rumour?"

Ezair says, "10-20? That's good."

Duelstar says, "that or a lie"

Silkie says, "At least it was inaccurate Dizman"

Silkie chuckles.

Truekillr says, "Or other sthings took precedent"

Gespry asks, "january which year?"

Matubaa asks, "Mind if I ask a society question?"

Xenosphere says, "Hmm.. And about that Port in Sheru through the arch.. whats hidding behind there"

Shaiyaa says, "it was a rumor"

Sassee says, "they were talking elanthian time Dizman, like the updates"

Dizman exclaims, "well lets go fer by the end of april!"

Truekillr babbles something unintelligible.

Metaephor says, "Dizman, actually it was my projection..."

Metaephor coughs.

Shaiyaa says, "theres a date attached to it"

Shaiyaa giggles.

Truekillr exclaims, "Patience!"

Metaephor says, "but...they are there..."

Aschren nods to Xenosphere.

Welan asks, "Metaphor.....any chance that other less stressed skills like Shield/Multi- Opps will be considered when designing the new critters manuvers attacks...rather then the old CM/Mobility standby?"

Dizman nods to Metaephor.

Metaephor says, "actually..."

Aschren says, "goo question Xeno"

Silkie asks, "Yes....the year was not mentioned was it?"

Ithross asks, "So, when are these 'New ideas' approximatly coming out?"

Duelstar says, "True, we been patient fer NOT days or weeks....years."

Shaiyaa asks, "will people be able to hunt thieving and ambushing critters? and the critters wont attack rogues since we are of their nature...?"

Jecquelynn asks, "dey are der,we just cant get in,right?"

Jecquelynn raises an eyebrow in Metaephor's direction.

Metaephor points at a caedera.

Metaephor says, "they actually exist"

Silkie exclaims, "ooooh!"

Metaephor says, "and work"

Dizman asks, "hey metaephor need a test rat?"

Silkie asks, "show us what they look like?"

Matubaa says, "i won't sleep it this time"

Metaephor says, "it's just that they aren't quite ready for prime time"

Truekillr says, "As Aephir stated in his post, ya can still hunt bud. Its Silkie and those that need em nae us."

Matubaa smiles at Metaephor.

Ithross asks, "And when can other professions start joinin the warriors guild?"

Ezair asks, "caedera? What is that?"

Ithross whistles a complicated ditty, impressing you with his virtuosity.

(Matubaa skins a caedera.)

Matubaa smacks his lips.

Wavr says, "Are There Are Any Two Weapon Using Critters"

Shaiyaa removes a silver-hilted blue vultite falchion from inside his black weapons harness.

Truekillr asks, "Can ya test em one us Aephir?"

Shaiyaa grins.

Ghakin asks, "So, theres Rift Sharks on the way?"

Metaephor says, "A caedera is a very ancient, ethereal Rift worm"

Silkie says, "I can still hunt, but the elementals are so crowded that it is almost pointless"

Ghakin says, "Should be interesting"

Ezair nods to Metaephor.

Ithross says, "An as fer those complainin bout empaths, remember that some of the oldest in the land are empaths."

Zemnh says, "mein golems got two fists"

Zorkell says, "neat"

Zemnh grins.

Metaephor says, "you think a roater is bad..."

Sornryn just went out.

Xenosphere says, "yeah.. till we git our own guild let us bother the warriors"

Metaephor snickers.

Xenosphere sticks out his tongue.

Xenosphere whistles a complicated ditty, impressing you with his virtuosity.

Scorpioun blinks at Metaephor.

Scorpioun cowers.

Ezair asks, "Will they be in the glyph rifts?"

Wakkez groans at Metaephor.

Ghakin asks, "Burrowing rift works?"

Ithross says, "Infact mosta the oldest are empaths."

Ghakin peers quizzically at Metaephor.

Shaiyaa exclaims, "ooo metaephor! put rift sharks in glyph boxes!!"

Shaiyaa beams happily at Metaephor!

Shaiyaa exclaims, "there we go!!"

Dizman asks, "why do some critters have spells that we are no longer able ta use?"

Dizman wails!

Tharsin says, "Are descriptions of critters currently being worked on? I'd like to be able to tell what kind of critter I'm looking at... and most I can't even describe."

Gaale asks, "Metaephor! You got lab rats here in a few of us. How about it?"

Silkie says, "Just chuck them at us, Meta"

Ezair says, "say Pipershadow sets off a glyph and gets sucked out..."

Xenosphere says, "I wanna see Empaths be able to Give wounds"

Shaiyaa exclaims, "find the way out before they kill ya!"

Xenosphere drools.

Melaneus asks, "What is THE oldest undead on the drawing board?"

Matubaa says, "Bah, bring it back, i didn't get t' 'describe' it yet"

Silkie says, "throw us in and let us swim or sink"

Matubaa gibbers incoherently.

Delileah says, "they are putting monsters in the rift... said that during the rogue forum"

Veenna asks, "forum over?"

Ezair asks, "will they be IN the rifts?"

Silkie grins.

Metaephor asks, "the oldest undeaD?"

Gespry says, "well, the two oldest critters..one is such that only a very few can hunt, the other is such, theres 10 to 15 hunters for 1 elemental..makes it hard"

Metaephor says, "hmmm"

Shaiyaa nods to Ezair.

Metaephor says, "one sec"

Melaneus smiles at Metaephor.

Silkie says, "yeah....oldest undead"

Truekillr says, "uh oh"

Morgaine points at Metaephor.

Veenna tosses his green backsword in the air, sending it into a spiraling blur. At the perfect moment, he snatches it competently by the handle.

Morgaine says, "the oldest undead"

Truekillr says, "I think we might want to spell."

Metaephor says, "that caedera was 113th lvl BTW ;)"

Silkie says, "lava golems are a joke for an ambusher"

Veenna put a glistening green backsword inside his black weapons harness.

Ezair says, "wowie"

Melaneus applauds.

Frescalus says, "I'd like to be able to hunt knowing that I have a chance to hit something before the other 10 million people in that general area hit the next 50-100 critters"

Dizman wails!

Frescalus wails!

Truekillr peers quizzically at Silkie.

Shaiyaa says, "that would be varevice."

Silkie says, "no one but sorcs do any good there"

Truekillr says, "Cept they dont crit"

Truekillr winks.

Frorin says, " metaephor how "on the plate" are new societies I have keen intrest since ive resigned or have been retired from both societies ..=("

Morgaine nods to Shaiyaa.

Silkie says, "exactly"

Morgaine says, "I forgot"

Truekillr nods to Silkie.

Silkie says, "Which is why I said they were a joke for ambushers"

Ezair asks, "Hey Metaephor! That tusked behemoth on Teras the other day! Will it be a kritter?"

Truekillr says, "Course it balances the area wonderfully I think"

Silkie snorts.

Metaephor says, "there is a 121st lvl undead, the n'ecare, 125th lvl undead a lost soul, the vaespilon (128th)"

Shaiyaa says, "or even giacomo"

Shaiyaa snickers.

Silkie asks, "how do ya figure?"

Xenosphere asks, "You mentioned Bard Guild "skills" cough.. and more ya wanna spill?"

Ghakin asks, "128th?"

Dizman beams happily at Metaephor!

Ghakin blinks.

Melaneus beams!

Silkie asks, "Much larger area just for lava golems and sorcs?"

Tavarion asks, "Metaephor, any chance that new creatures will have built-in anti- camping mechanisms, like hiding behind trash and such?"

Melaneus says, "thankee"

Dizman says, "I like those vaespilon"

Morgaine says, "naaa...varevice"

Dizman drools.

Truekillr says, "Without em elementals wouldnt kill a thing before they were killed."

Silkie says, "The rest of us crowded into a tiny area"

Dizman asks, "how much harder have ya made those vaespilon from when they invaded?"

Zorkell asks, "what will be 150th level?"

Truekillr asks, "how many die from just elementals?"

Metaephor nods to Tavarion.

Truekillr says, "None. With golems they are dangerous"

Truekillr grins.

Zemnh says, "vaesp... was that in any icemule invasions? seems familiar, or is my mind wandering"

Titaniia says, "umm..I do"

Silkie says, "then the whole thing should be opened up to elementals"

Metaephor says, "Tavarion, I'm working on building that into the base script"

Frorin sighs.

Titaniia leans on Truekillr.

Wakkez says, "we gonna see some of these former invasion critters popping up? ran into an oo'ii once, i'd kinda like to see those living here full time"

Welan asks, "Metaphor.....any chance that other less stressed skills like Shield/Multi- Opps will be considered when designing the new critters manuvers attacks...rather then the old CM/Mobility standby?"

Truekillr just tickled Titaniia.

Matubaa says, "I g'na ask me society question, te he"

Silkie says, "Since golems are basically unhuntable by the rest of us"

Truekillr says, "aye but yer 30 years their lesser"

Kaillen says, "Vaespilion showed up under the crypt last Tuesday."

Metaephor says, "so that... those folks that let trash build will be at a disadvantage"

Truekillr grins.

Titaniia says, "aye, but I still dies very well."

Metaephor nods to Welan.

Shaiyaa asks, "will people be able to hunt thieving and ambushing critters? and the critters wont attack rogues since we are of their nature...?"

Gaale says, "I dont think there were any Vaespilion in the Ice invasion though i could be wrong."

Zorkell grins.

Dizman begins chuckling at Metaephor.

Titaniia nods to Truekillr.

Zemnh says, "prolly just hearing things in my sleep"

Welan grins.

Frescalus says, "Metaephor, I have heaerd something about critters coming into a room as packs, ie, A pack of ten wolves just arrived."

Silkie asks, "Did you make those reiver chieftains?"

Zemnh nods to Gaale.

(Kaesha hangs her head and sleeps solemnly amidst the noise of the fleetfooted world, muttering "Blessed are the Sick.")

Frescalus asks, "any truth to that rumor?"

Metaephor says, "Actually Welan, the formula for my base manuever attack is four pages long"

Silkie peers quizzically at Metaephor.

Dizman asks, "soe ye kin attack them but they can't?"

Dizman begins chuckling at Shaiyaa.

Silkie asks, "Did you make those reiver chieftains?"

Matubaa says, "Will we ever see societies devoted to the minority? An example, a guild for demon summoning. What you gain is great summoning power. What you lose is all the abilities of the 'general' society."

Welan coughs.

Shaiyaa says, "no..."

Morgaine cowers away from Metaephor!

Welan asks, "4 pages?"

Shaiyaa says, "it would be like to code of assassins"

Welan coughs.

Zorkell says, "that trunk rayyne found with a stone, those brought every vvrael and some to icemule that day"

Titaniia says, "Metaephor, please tell me there are no old versions of titans planned? "

Tavarion asks, "As long as we have you captive, Metaephor, is tweaking symbol of mana still on your to-do list, or did that get pushed back?"

Shaiyaa says, "one would never attack another assassin"

Metaephor says, "4 10 pt courier typed pages"

Metaephor says, "of which"

Zorkell says, "well all 3 anyways"

Matubaa says, "A necormancy society..."

Metaephor says, "CM is 3 lines"

Wakkez begins chuckling at Titaniia.

Morgaine says, "Everything Rayyne does brings the Vrrael"

Dizman begins chuckling at Titaniia.

Matubaa says, "ETC."

Tharsin chuckles.

Truekillr smirks.

Gaale nods to Morgaine.

Ezair pokes Matubaa in the ribs.

Truekillr nods to Metaephor.

Gaale giggles.

Truekillr exclaims, "Perfect!"

Ghakin asks, "Metaephor, someone asked this, any plans for Illokes fortress? Those impenetrable doors?"

Zorkell says, "she vvrael magnet"

Ghakin coughs.

Matubaa exclaims, "Oof!"

Delileah grins.

Mistytwilight just gave Zorkell a smooch.

Silkie asks, "Did you make the reiver chieftains?"

Ezair asks, "Metaephor, was the tusked behemoth yours?" ground.

Zemnh asks, "can we expect any hive queens just popping up in teras or darkstone?"

Zemnh chuckles.

Truekillr nods to Ghakin.

Gaale pokes Titaniia in the ribs.

(Melaneus drools as the allusions to the mysterious maneuver systems of Elanthia)

Truekillr says, "Yes there is."

Zorkell stands up.

Metaephor says, "its on my to-do list Tavarion, however, I haven't settled on an alternative cost yet"

Metaephor nods to Ghakin.

Titaniia says, "oof"

Zemnh says, "like the ghoul masters and dirges do"

Ghakin says, "And what would they be"

Ghakin smirks.

Frescalus growls ferociously!

Wavr says, "Are There Are Any Two Weapon Using Critters"

Ghakin exclaims, "More shamans!"

Ghakin throws his head back and howls!

Scorpioun says, "Will Dizman be one of the Kiramon Hive Queens"

Zorkell just tried to pull Mistytwilight towards him!

Welan says, "Thats pretty darn impressive Metaphor"

Shaiyaa exclaims, "answer me! me me me! please meta!"

Frescalus says, "I give up, bye fokes"

Tavarion says, "As long as it's still on the list, I'm happy."

Shaiyaa asks, "will people be able to hunt thieving and ambushing critters? and the critters wont attack rogues since we are of their nature...?"

Metaephor says, "As soon as the Vvrael quest ends, I'm opening up Thanatoph (or working to open it ;)"

Ghakin says, "Those shamans are fun"

Ghakin cackles!

Zorkell frowns.

Morgaine's face turns slightly pale.

Jecquelynn says, "umm..so..no,those doors wont open"

Ghakin says, "You need to make them fog to people more often"

Darcmystic says, "Shamans are easy"

Truekillr asks, "Any news on the vvrael Aephir?"

Jecquelynn snickers.

Darcmystic splutters.

Ghakin says, "Especially in the treehouse"

Duelstar rolls his eyes.

Ghakin mumbles something that you don't quite catch.

Matubaa asks, "Thanatoph ain't open?"

Frorin says, "Matubaa.. ive lost the abilities of the "general" societies and i cant sommon notin ... unless you count ugly women in droves."

Matubaa coughs.

Ithross asks, "Can ya start an invasion now Metaephor? With some REALLY strong stuff?"

Raistlann says, "that reiver chieftan was impressive, avoided thorn's and implosion wif ease while wearin full plate"

Gaale nods to Cavemann.

Silkie says, "i could hit it"

Duelstar says, "welp, its been real guys an til I actually see this stuff then i'll believe it"

Jecquelynn asks, "he can,but will he?"

Gespry says, "yes..lost souls in teras"

(Kaesha hangs her head and sleeps solemnly amidst the noise of the fleetfooted world, muttering "Blessed are the Sick.")

Raistlann says, "well"

Silkie says, "but it did very little damage"

Wakkez says, "gonna be interesting if minotaurs are the start, to see a 125th level creature raising their own dead"

Cavemann says, "I dunno Meta, seems the general concensus that some type of timeframe would give us some hope...I highly doubt anyone would hold you to it, but as it sits now you just say wait, "

Barachado says, "yeah and almost 2000 TD wasn't shabby either"

Ezair asks, "Metaephor, the tusked behemoth on Teras... was it yours?"

Ezair giggles.

Tanille grins.

Silkie says, "They had to be about 150th level I would imagine"

Raistlann nods to Barachado.

Raistlann chuckles.

Azrail asks, "will we see a disparity between the monsters brawling skills and their weapons skills with the new script metaphor?"

Tavarion asks, "I've heard rumors about a creature that could hitch a ride on a fogger, to make rescues more dangerous. Ever going to happen?"

Aschren says, "Meta, I've an idea for the cost to sym of mana,,,, favor and RT"

Hollowsky asks, "avri, you in here, love?"

Morgaine drools.

Scorpioun says, "that is a great idea"

Morgaine says, "I like that Tavarion"

Xenosphere asks, "Rift monster?"

Metaephor says, "Well I can say that I promised MY bosses that I would have some of the elder critters out before the end of April"

Silkie says, "When the gods killed them I learned great"

Quantaron says, "Hi Meta"

Quantaron says, "..man"

Matubaa says, "Arg, no answer, me ask me question again, grrr"

Metaephor says, "Tavarion, possibly"

Dizman says, "out.."

Sephirotad asks, "are there gonna be more rolton breeds,deadlier types?"

Sephirotad grins.

Cavemann says, "excellent...thats very good to hear"

Dizman asks, "does out mean huntable or does out mean done?"

Delileah says, "you know.. just implement spirit hunter could possibly help out the empaths that have to hunt so low to hunt a little higher"

Shaiyaa asks, "will people be able to hunt thieving and ambushing critters? and the critters wont attack rogues since we are of their nature...?"

Shaiyaa whines.

Quantaron says, "No Sephirotad"

Wavr says, "Are There Are Any Two Weapon Using Critters"

Shaiyaa just tried to pull Metaephor towards him!

Quantaron says, "Don't even ask."

Quantaron shudders.

Kaillen exclaims, "roltons!"

Kaillen cowers.

Ithross asks, "Can ya start an invasion now Metaephor? With some REALLY strong stuff?"

Ithross grins.

Aerrik asks, "Metaephor, ya gonna take speed readin to keep up with all these questions?"

Xenosphere nods.

Xenosphere nods.

Aerrik chuckles.

Zemnh glances at Ithross.

Xenosphere says, "Invasion"

Morgaine says, "Ithross...hush"

Xenosphere drools.

Gespry laughs!

Quantaron exclaims, "Yeah Reiver chieftains at the gates!"

Delileah bites Scorpioun!

Matubaa asks, "Any chance of more specific societies, so that only a small group of players would have use. As is the current guilds seem to be for everyone?"

Silkie says, "well we would all die...since we all have no spells on"

Tavarion says, "A two-weapon using creature? Why would anyone want to do that.... oh."

Silkie grins.

Tornov says, "there is no honor amoung thieves...they would attack their own"

Angelkitty just tried to pull Xenosphere towards her!

Tornov whistles tunelessly to himself.

Xenosphere chuckles.

Welan asks, "Are any of the Magic type critters soley magic attacked based..... seem to be very few critters that don't have signifigant physical attacks..even ones that are strongly magic aligned?"

Sephirotad says, "I still think there should be more rolton breeds"

Metaephor says, "Shaiyaa, yes some of the profession personalities will be built into new critters. Especially that "rogue-killer" I'm working on..."

Metaephor whistles tunelessly to himself.

Sephirotad scoffs.

Xenosphere says, "I could rub a couple amulets "

Xenosphere grins.

Kaillen asks, "a Big Ugly Drooling Fanged Rolton that Smells Like a Bleeding Giantman just arrived?"

Matubaa says, "not guilds, societies"

Ithross smirks.

Matubaa says, "Bah"

Matubaa slaps himself on the forehead.

Shaiyaa says, "they would steal from their own...thats it"

Morgaine snickers.

Xenosphere bites Angelkitty!

Shaiyaa beams happily at Metaephor!

Shaiyaa exclaims, "yay!"

Quantaron says, "A rolton pulsating with power just arrived."

Sephirotad taps a fluffy white rolton costume.

Shaiyaa says, "no thief would attack their own...only steal it back"

Matubaa shows Quantaron his black rolton collar.

Xenosphere asks, "mana rolton?"

Truekillr asks, "Vvrael or Baron first?"

Xenosphere snickers.

Truekillr grins.

Matubaa asks, "You called?"

Zemnh asks, "is anything being done about the rubbing in forums?"

Frorin mutters something about rogue-killer.

Zemnh chuckles.

Kaillen says, "Baron tomorrow."

Matubaa exclaims, "Bahhhh!"

(Kaesha hangs her head and sleeps solemnly amidst the noise of the fleetfooted world, muttering "Blessed are the Sick.")

Tornov says, "bah....if'n ye think stealin is the only art of the rogue..."

Kaillen says, "just a hunch."

Bronwen asks, "a swamp rolton?"

Quantaron says, "A rolton fires a beam of white fire at you."

Matubaa licks a kelyn-spiked black rolton collar.

Tanille begins chuckling at Zemnh.

Metaephor says, "I imagine that societies could sprout up to combat the "new" monster types...one never does know...."

Metaephor whistles tunelessly to himself.

Chiann begins chuckling at Zemnh.

Tornov winks.

Scorpioun begins chuckling at Quantaron.

Ithross asks, "Yes, when is da baron coming?"

Matubaa exclaims, "Bahhhh!"

Frorin says, "thats why they makes all them popers and bashers"

Azrail asks, "will we see a disparity between the monsters brawling skills and their weapons skills with the new script metaphor, or will they all still be prefectly trained in brawling?"

Frorin grumbles.

Jecquelynn asks, "aye.what training or the Jantalarian soldiers?"

Xenosphere says, "Ohh.. new societies"

Dizman asks, "does "out" mean huntable or does out mean done?"

Xenosphere drools.

Jecquelynn raises an eyebrow in Metaephor's direction.

Truekillr chuckles.

Kaillen says, "the first wave of the lil' Baron is gonna pop up before Monday."

Metaephor says, "alright I'm working on a $100,000,000 dollar acquisition at work and have to be up at 5amelven, so I need to hit it"

Silkie says, "Lets get the Vvrael under control"

Truekillr says, "I love opening a can of worms"

Morgaine just hugged Metaephor.

Dizman waves to Metaephor.

Barachado drools.

Tornov waves to Metaephor.

Aerrik gawks at Metaephor.

Ezair asks, "100 mil?"

Ezair's jaw drops.

Silkie just hugged Metaephor.

Aerrik asks, "You sleep?"

Ghakin asks, "Metaephor, any idea if there will be more rivalries between opposing creatures? Such as attacking each other before attacking people in the room?"

Ghakin says, "Ah"

Ghakin says, "Thanks"

Sephirotad waves.

Ghakin smiles.

Metaephor hugs you. Even you too.

Metaephor suddenly fades out of sight.

End.


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