Gorean Philosophy

Question::  Where do You feel the Gorean Philosophy is most misunderstood?

JaKil::  Those who think that the books are simply words written for the amusement of people looking for good reading. They fail to see the words written between the lines. The deeper meaning of the ideas contained in the 25 books is felt by those that seek a deeper understanding of themselves and their place in nature. Many people have have read the books. There are however a select few who have found the truth within those pages. So with this said, most consider the Philosophy mear fiction. Never seeing the deeper meaning, the ideas contained within them. The possibilities, the joy of life. Few even take the time to question within themselves the Philosophy, which the books are based upon.

Question::  With regards to "Honor, Integrity, and Brotherhood" which to You, holds the most regard? Why?

JaKil::  My Honor, for it cannot be bought. It cannot be seen, or it's weight determined. If a man lacks Honor, what is he? Brotherhood is never available for those without Honor. What man would associate with a man lacking it? I have long sought men of Honor and Courage, and the ability to be true to themselves. Of all that life holds dear and precious to me, my Honor I value most. I surround myself while on IRC with those who have this trait. This ability to have "Honor". For as I have said, it is the most wonders of posessions a man may have.

Question::  Do you think a Gorean can perform an unforgivable action or crime on IRC? If so, what would that be?

JaKil::  Yes, it is possible. If one were to be found to be a liar and a thief. A person with no sense of the meaning of truth and the ability to accept responsibility for their own actions. If one is true to the meaning of the books and their ideas, Crimes are punishable by death. Can we kill anyone on IRC? No. But there always is the ignore option.

Question::  For many, to bring the Gorean Philosophy into their Earthly lives: the cost and sacrifices are great: What has been Your greatest sacrifice to date?

JaKil::  I would say the loss of potential Friendships. I don't suffer people that ridicule my notion of what life is all about. I say what I feel and live life on my own terms. Many cannot accept this. Most simply won't understand the view I have of men and their place in the world, be it here in my daily life or while I am on IRC. Each of us who makes the tough decision to live life by a set of standards and rules, I call them codes, pays a certain price in there lives.

Question::  What was the hardest thing to overcome when You took Your beliefs into Real Life?

JaKil::  I am fortunate, I have a profession where the views found within the books and such are compatable in a lot of ways. I live by a set of Codes both on my job and in the world of IRC, both are very close to the same. The hardest to overcome was perhaps the fact that I could not walk away for my duty when I had to serve under an Officer that couldn't lead a goat around the block. The question asks , "Beliefs into Real Life". I know I carry my beliefs from the real world into IRC.

Question::  Under what conditions would a Gorean Male move from His home stone?

JaKil::  When he was honor bound to do so. When he could no longer support the idea and reason for the Home Stone to exist. Each person has to weigh that decision based on their understanding of what is the meaning of their Home Stone and it's place on IRC Gor.

Question::  Up till what time should a Gorean Male stand by His Brothers?

JaKil::  Till he breaths his last breath. I have a bond with the men of my Home Stone that is broken only by death. I have brothers here on Irc that are no less a brother than the son of my father.

Mastery

Question::  "XXX-jira:: got something for ya, for all that glorious crap you stirred and then kicked me over. * XXX-jira raises her little slavey fist...upraising the middle slender digit.....flipping the 'tarn' at XXXXXXX*"  What is Your opinion of a slave who speaks and acts as such to a FreeMan?

JaKil::  First I laugh. Then as this is not Gor and she is not feed to sleen or thrown to tarns, I forget her. She is a woman of Urth. She wants to be a kajira, but lacks the ability to be total in the commitment it would take. I feel more pity than anger. For she may never know the part of her that could be if she would only see the truth.

"More than one Master, I suspect, has been enslaved by the beauty who kneels before Him. It is one of the excruciating delights of the Mastery to expose oneself fully to, yet skirt, the dangers of the girls beauty, to keep oneself strong, to draw the absolute fullness of pleasure from her, and to resist her wiles, to get everything from her, and yet keep her on her knee's completely." - SlaveGirl of Gor ..pg 36

Question::  Your opinion of the meaning of the passage?

JaKil::  A man see's a woman of beauty he has never before thought possible to exist. He becomes raw with emotion. His nature takes hold. If Gorean, he knows to get all the woman has to give, he must keep her at his feet. To know that if she is to be totally female, it is at his feet that he will find her there. Let her flower in her submission, let her know the joy of that total love. Men who have not forgotten that which lies within them, understand.

Question::  As a Master, what do You feel is Your worst attribute?

JaKil::  My ability to control my emotions. I have always been quick to anger. Quick to judge. I work on this a lot, to improve myself. I have been quick with a word, when upon reflection, I would have been better served to have thought the matter through.

Question::  In Your opinion, what is the proper way to fondle a slave?

JaKil::  With both hands

Question::  How many slaves do You Own ?

JaKil::  I own none. I am a man that is totally commited to his Free Companion. She is to me all that I need in life. I once had a slave, I choose to set her loose from my collar, for I could not be to her that which she needs. I am most content with my Free Companion. Ask anyone who knows me, I am on-line that which I am in real life. The taking of a slave is no simple matter. So few understand the commitment that comes with ownership. Only a fool puts a girl in a collar, even on IRC, and does not accept the responsibility of that commitment.

Question::  We are then to understand, Your Free Companion is that of RL and not of IRC Gor?

JaKil::  Correct

Question::  What is Your opinion of "Training" and/or "Protection" collars?

JaKil::  They have no meaning. Protection from what? If training is necessary, let the man that she is owned by train her. I find them rather funny and a bit meaningless. We do not allow such nonsense in the Silk and Steel.

Question::  Do you feel popups should be allowed for serving? For dancing? For channel ban/kicks?

JaKil::  Serving, no, let her serve from the heart and for the moment. Each man is different and thus deserves her personal attention. As to the dance, dancers need to train and practice, I see nothing wrong with that. I personally prefer her to dance without the use of it but I allow it. In regards to the use of kick/ban popups, the places I frequent, only men are Ops, and they may do as they please. Are they not Men?

Miscellaneous

Question::  According to the source books, Gorean FreeWomen are utilized to bear Free children, manage the books, etc. In Your opinion, what purpose do Free Women serve on IRC Gor?

JaKil::  Free Woman serve ther place on Gor in a few ways. First they serve to show the differences between a woman that has chosen to be free. One that does not want the collar. (damn good question) The differences being men are by their nature takers, and the female is the giver. The freewoman is treasured in her position. But, the slave is sought for ability to give. The Freewoman can serve as an example of many things. I, for one, have no problem with there being Freewoman on IRC Gor. For as the books say, "Behind the viels of the freewoman, lies a collar"..

Question::  Do you feel the qualifications for choosing an online caste such as "Warrior" should be more strict?

JaKil::  ahhh, a very good question... One I am much more able to answer.  Do I wish that there was a way to insure that those of a Caste were worthy of the Caste chosen? Of course. But how can this be done? I have no answer for that. But let me quote something I have written before; "I do not role play being a warrior. Those that I call Warrior and friend do not also." The selection process for my calling another Caste Brother is my own. But as a close friend once said of me, “We are brothers, and I would be foolish to deny such a priceless bond. I am of the Warriors, and I accept you as my brother because, quite simply, knowing you as I do, if I did not accept you so, then I would not be of the Warriors." How can we find if one is of the Scarlet Caste or not? I shall attempt to answer from the point of view of one that has seen the selection done in the Place of my Home Stone. It is our way, perhaps not the only way, but our way. A man comes to the Silk and Steel. He becomes a regular there. He then during the course of time and interaction, over the course of many months, shows the man he is. His word is displayed as being truthful or not. We then accept him as a Caste Brother or not. The man by his knowledge and ability to communicate things only a Warrior would know is shown. Truth is felt more then seen. We are not fooled often.

Question::  Do you think a standardized system of virtual monetary exchange would be a good idea, or a bad one?

JaKil::  A meaningless idea. For what would you purchase? Can you buy honor, truth, and understanding?

lassy whispers::  Master, a girl was more thinking about paga, slaves, merchandise, etc. not those of which should come naturally and normally.

JaKil::  As in the books, each City/State determines it's own minting of coins. If one of Port Kar says that it's gold coins are worth more than Ar's, who am I to question them? I will of course disagree, but, that is my opinion. I would say that a girl is worth only 5 copper tarn disk. A man of another city may claim she is worth one hundred Gold tarn disk's. Who is correct? Why me of course. To answer the question in one word, bad idea..oops thats two..

Question::  How many copper tarsks does it take to equal a silver tarsk?

JaKil::  Is a poor Warrior, he has never held more than copper in his hands. I will have to make a note of this and ask Zeb and Bear for a raise.

Question::  To date, who/what has been the greatest influence on Your journey?

JaKil::  In my search for truth and a deeper understanding of what I find to be the way of things, I have met many men. I have met men that are Men who love, find friendship, and comrades and Honor my Codes. The one I owe most is not a single person, but an idea, a place. Within the walls of the Tavern of the Silk and Steel, I have found men that I thought never to exist. After 19 years as a Warrior, a Paratrooper, serving all over the world, I have found a place where men think, act, and say what I have felt within myself for so long. Marcus, Zeb, Bear, Naysayer, Kogg, all the men of the tavern whom I call Brother and friend assist me at times, after all, they are men of my Home Stone, that should say it all. Some may think that the rock is only a rock, but we know differently. I owe much to these men, the ledger will always tilt in there favor.

Question::  What is your opinion regarding slaves being on more than one net (DALnet, AUSTnet, etc.) even if they are only technically in one channel at one time?

JaKil::  ahhh here let me quote my popup..:) "* JaKil reminds the slaves that they are not permitted to be on other channels when in this tavern. If you can't devote your full attention to the men here, come back when you can.*" If you can't devote your full attention to a man, then go somewhere else. Full attention is due the man that a slave serves. Slaves cannot serve two masters. I say serve one at a time or serve none at all.

Question::  Do you think cyber-killing and assassination should be standardized and accepted?

JaKil::  * JaKil laughs very loudly..*   I always do at this, cyber-killing and assassination are pointless and mean nothing. If a man has a beef with another, set a time and place, go there and settle the matter with whatever weapons are chosen. Let the fist, the knife or the staff settle the matter. Cyber-killing and assassination are funny, we used to kill all HNG's via the cyber kill, but after months they lose their meaning, better to have the person limp out after a beating of their views and their shallow ideas.

Question::  What in your opinion is the difference between a serious Gorean channel and a "Disney-Gor" channel?

JaKil::  Good question, one I have thought long on. I spent a long time writing Marcus a letter on the matter, it is very long, so let me rephrase it here for the intereview:

"I sat here staring at the screen waiting for the words to pour out like a fine wine, for I have strong feelings about this subject and thought they would come easily. I find myself, however, with no ready answers, and could call forth no witty words to shed light on the question brought forth in your challenge. (See the Third Knowledge) I walked away from the keyboard more than a few times, but was drawn back, wanting to answer the hard question that has been posed many times in various ways; wanted to put my feelings and ideas into words, to share them with others. Simply, the words difficult and impossible came to my mind repeatedly for each of us define Gor in our own terms and who is to say what is “right”? To much play and overt role-playing? So, to answer the question as to a how much play is too much, here’s my answer. I drink more paga in the tavern than most. I look at my fellow Caste Brothers, those of the Scarlet Caste, and say Tal. I pound on my shield with my spear when I am pleased. I am content to associate with men that are by their nature, strong, hard-headed, and uncompromising in their principles and views of life. I have come to the conclusion that I cannot say what is to much or what is enough. I only know some things can be explained and others cannot. Can I have you explain to me in writing what beauty is? At times words are simply not enough to express what is felt. To me this is such a time."

Those who know what a Play channel is, know, those that do not will never know.