Requests for Information Related to Thomas Jefferson

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OBJECTIVISM, AYN RAND, AND JEFFERSON

Thank you for a very civil response. I must add that I have gotten several of the other kind from some Objectivists and others. Although we may not agree, I don't believe there is ever any justification for people being insulting to one another. In fact, I have found it so unproductive, I have decided on a zero tolerance for personal insults. >I must suggest you re-read the Objectivist Ethics chapter >of Rand's The Virtue of Selfishness. > >Your essay seemed to completely miss the entire premise of >Rand's philosophy. I would be glad to discuss any specific points with you, but I cannot find the motivation to pursue an unspecific search or a general reference. >Further, I do believe she states in her introduction that the >word 'selfishness' was not the perfect word. However, according >to her definition it works fine. This is not propoganda. Another >example of a similar situation is Milton Friedman's use of the word >'liberal' in his writings. His definition is quite different than the one >normally associated with the word. Miss Rand begins her book with a definition of selfishness which is a distortion. Shall we be frank? It is an outright lie. She says selfishness is defined in the dictionary in a certain way, and it simply and definitely is NOT. She then continues the discussion based on that assumption. I am sorry, but when someone starts off a discussion of a subject with an absolute lie, and then constructs an argument and a system based on that lie, I cannot go along with them. My mind rebels. I find that typical of all her writings, however. She sneaks in these distortions, and then builds a highly complex, intellectual system based on those distorted premises. This kind of thing offends me highly, and I find myself screaming, "I don't care how brilliant your arguments and your conclusions! You are a liar from the beginning, and I will NEVER accept it." Moreover, this kind of proceeding is INDEED propaganda. This is the way all propagandists, all cult leaders, all religionists, set out, whether it is Heaven's Gate, Jonestown, Scientology, Nazism, or hundreds more. Once you accept their distorted premises, you're hooked, because everything else follows in perfect logical and sensible order; and none so logical as Objectivism. The higher reaches of that kind of stuff is always intelligent and undeniable, but it is the foundations that are rotten. It is the very kind of intellectual deceit about which Jefferson declared: "I have sworn upon the altar of God, eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man," and I agree 100% with his strong stand against those intellectual systems that would capture the minds of people with various forms of subtle trickery. >Selfishness does not always mean living simply for the short-term. >It is in fact quite selfish to give of yourself if you can rationally expect >it to have future benefits. Donating to a charity for medical research >for example.. seems altruistic, yet you may rationally expect it to >be to your benefit because it may improve your own life or someone >you care about. Self-interest is normal and natural. It is the beginning of rational existence. But the mature and developed human being enlarges his self-interest to include that of others, ultimately of ALL others. All that stuff about sacrificing yourself for the interests of others, is all a bunch of baloney. That is just a distortion to support Rand's pernicious arguments. It is a way of thinking that reinforces the worst aspects of human nature, that fosters alienation from other humans, and that undermines national unity, generosity, kindness, and every human virtue. But these become the things that Rand declares as a fool's morality, because her morality does not focus on the other; it focuses on oneself. Rand herself was a vile and vicious individual. This is excused by her followers as the impatient expression of her genius. I think they foolishly deceive themselves. She is the epitome of the "Me Generation," and I think that is the basis of her appeal. I have had discussions with several of her followers. There have been one or two exceptions, but most have been closed-minded, deceitful people who would stoop to any trick to win an argument. I have seen nothing enobling about Objectivism, based on most of her followers. Of course, I don't mean this as a judgment on you personally. I would hope that you are one of the exceptions, as was one other well-known author I could name that I corresponded with for a while. But he was not an "orthodox" Objectivist. In fact, he thought Rand was outright wrong about several things. >I highly suggest the recent movie "As good as it gets" >Jack Nickolson's character is an excellent example of Egoism >Everything he does, he rationally expects it to benefit himself. >The results however do not outwardly appear to be selfish. I believe that movies and novels can teach valuable moral lessons if they do indeed serve as vehicles to uncover the consequences of human action. But I also believe that fiction can be manipulated to convey a moral message that is contrary to human nature. When it does that, it becomes false and misleading propaganda. >"What a free society offers to the individual is much more >than what he would be able to do if only he were free." > - Friedrich Hayek YES!!! This is the whole point of being a part of a human association that extends beyond the isolated individual self. Man in society is able to achieve his potential to an extent that he could never do alone. This is the foundation of popular sovereignty, of a whole people's self- government. This is why our Constitution begins with "We, the People..." This is why the word "individual" is not mentioned once in the Declaration of Independence: because a free people COLLECTIVELY establish a government that secures for each member their natural rights. Alienated individualism ultimately makes no sense.

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