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> Awesome websight. Thank you. I could spend a day absorbing the quotes and > reflected on the nobler ideals therein espoused. Good stuff. > > I stumbled upon your websight looking to confirm a quote I came across in a > book of quotations. One was attributed to Thomas Jefferson that did not > necessarily sound like Jefferson, or perhaps was being used in a different > context. In any event, no site was provided to trace back to the original > text to read in full. Could you help me. Are you familiar with it. I > searched your website but could not find it. > > It is "the Bible is the cornerstone of liberty." > > Can you reference me to a source for this quote? Many thanks for visiting the website, and for your kind remarks. Yes, I believe that Jefferson's thoughts on government, which I tried to set down in this website, are truly awesome. On the quotation you ask about, however, I feel compelled to agree with you. I don't think it sounds like Jefferson, and I do not believe it is a genuine Jefferson quotation. There are many false TJ quotes around -- most notably "That government is best that governs least." Also, there are many that were by someone else that are attributed to Jefferson, such as "Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely" But I don't believe Jefferson would ever have said "The Bible is the cornerstone of liberty." That doesn't make any real political sense -- not to me, anyway -- and what Jefferson wrote ALWAYS made sense, usually infinite sense. If you ask yourself, What does "the Bible is the cornerstone of liberty" mean, I think you will find it hard to come up with a good answer. If one said "the TEACHINGS of the Bible etc." or "a faith in the message of the Bible etc.", that would make a little more sense, whether you agreed with it or not. But just saying "the Bible is..." is pretty close to a solecism, IMO. How could a book be the cornerstone of an idea or concept? Now a person might say, "Oh well, what Jefferson meant was the Bible teaches the true meaning of liberty." But the problem with that is, in all my acquaintance with Jefferson's writings, he NEVER -- NEVER! -- wrote with that kind of ambiguity. That's why I say I don't think it is Jefferson. He was a brilliant writer, and this statement which he is accused of making is, literarily speaking, inferior in concept, in my opinion. One might say that the Bible (as a whole) is the cornerstone of the Christian religion. One could even say, incorrectly in my opinion, that the United States is founded on the principles contained in the Bible. But I do not believe it can be said that the term "liberty" and the concept of liberty are founded on the Bible. Jefferson wrote: "Of liberty I would say that, in the whole plenitude of its extent, it is unobstructed action according to our will. But rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will within limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others. I do not add 'within the limits of the law,' because law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual." --Thomas Jefferson to Isaac H. Tiffany, 1819. It is difficult to believe that the person who wrote the above brilliant analysis of liberty would then write that the Bible was the cornerstone of liberty. That, in my opinion, is an idea foreign to all of Jefferson's pronouncements on liberty and an unspecific statement that is not characteristic of the way Jefferson wrote. The concept of liberty is not established in any religious context in any of his writings. That is the way I see it. Now it is possible I could be wrong. I have not seen every word that Jefferson wrote, although I have carefully gone through the 20 volume set of the Lipscomb and Bergh Memorial Edition, and I can guarantee it is not in there. But I would be very surprised if this is a genuine Jefferson quote.