GwenAlpha (taken from Metaphysical AOL site):
How do Seth readers respond to the weather? This question comes from my involvement with people where I lived for three years, in the wesern NC mountains. Several read a newsletter by Gordon Michael Scalliion on "earth changes." Given the scientifically-predicted effects of El nino, I recall his "predictions" of drastic changes during this time and into the next few years. Personally, I put his "predictions" on "a mental shelf." What is the thinking regarding such information--given our acceptance of Seth--correlated with the "scientific" information?
Barrie: First on science: Science views physical reality thru the physical tools created by humans who hold rigid beliefs concerning the physical reality they are trying to understand. Science viewing physical reality is like the exploration of distance and depth with one eye and a two-dimensional surface. Science "discovers" what it knows it will discover beforehand within the limits of its belief system of physical reality...which totally ignores the invisible, spiritual side of life from which life and physical reality actually originate.
According to Seth, the mass reality we all materialize or actualize (as well as our personal reality) is chosen from an infiinite number of probable realities. Each probable reality...whether chosen to physically experience or not...has its own "line" of past & future which ever-flower into even more probable realities. Simply put, imagine a book shelf with a thousand books on it. Each book is a probable reality relating to one specific event...be that event leaving the house at 9 am; or world-wide destruction at 10:15pm.
Let's take the personal 9 am one first. One thousand things (infinite really) can happen upon leaving your house at 9 am. You are aware of all of them, on the "subconscious," invisible level we all visit in our dreams, psychic states, before/after life, and in out-of-bodies, etc (even when totally awake part of us resides in these invisible realms). From these invisible realms we consciously (conscious while in the realms) choose which book to take off the shelf (or which probable reality to make physical)--knowing what is in each book and how it would effect us & those around us. Whether we get hit by a car at 9:01 am; run into our neighbor Phil who talks too much at 9:03am, witness a mugging, see a beautiful bird, get caught in a traffic jam, etc, etc. These are all potential possibilities from the bookshelf of 1,000s of probabilities that can occur when leaving the house at 9 am. We choose the "book" of reality to physically actualize and then experience this physical reality with no conscious memory of our choice.
Now, on the "mass" reality level, its the same thing. We collectively decide which book to take off the shelf--when it comes to, for example, whether the world should be destroyed at 10:15pm, this Tuesday.
How about all these "doom" predictors? How this works with all these dire predictions about the future is this: when people try to "predict" the future they are actually tuning into one of an infinite number of probable futures...all totally real...and all with their own civilization of probable us, you's and me's, experiencing them. But the probable futures tapped into by predictors or psychics may not be the one we will choose en-masse to make physical as the group of humans on the planet.
So, remember that all these dire predictions are simply the tuning into probable futures. If you trust in the inner goodness and well-meaning of your inner self as well as all the souls couched in flesh around you...then all these catostrophic predictions will be left in the invisible realms of probable histories....along with the Nazis winning World War Two, etc.
Gwen's Next Statement: I'm going to check my Seth index to see what he says about weather,
Barrie: By all means, go back and check...for there is much more than I will relay right now. Look in the Mass Events book. But I can tell you what I remember. That is, that we create the weather en-masse. The weather, like everything else, is our thoughts made physical. And our swirling moods, emotions and desires, en-masse create the clouds, rain, snow, earthquakes, storms, hurricanes, etc. Sometimes, thru the creation of violent weather we release the same emotions en-masse as we would've thru a tragic war...yet each has far different ramifications in our day-to-day lives. Yet, they all do quiet things down...like splashing cold water on two people fighting. Cold water shocks the people into stopping the violence...as would cold sulfuric acid end the violence
Jenner (taken from ADC board):
This question has been laying heavy on my mind for a while now. Do we actually choose the life we are leading at the present....did I choose to become the mother of a murdered child....Did Jennifer choose to become a murdered child?....At one time I really thought this made some sense...but now I have so many questions in my mind on this...I could sure use some input..from both sides of this fence!
Barrie: Questions like the one you ask only make sense from the perspective of our souls/inner selves which know that death does not exist the way we define it via our physical perceptions; and which know that time does not exist the way we physically perceive it. Both death and time are illusions which us physical folk use to explore emotions and feelings...as explorers sent forth by ourselves..by the invisible souls we are a part of.
From this invisible realm, a realm well-aware that death is an illusion, we actually do choose our parents, our children, and our deaths. And the part of us that resides in this invisible realm...is well aware in advance of the impending deaths of ourselves and of those we love; be those deaths by murder, accident, long disease like cancer, instant heart attact, etc. Remember, the horror of these things are illusions.
We are in constant communication with these invisible realms; and the information we receive is largely, seemingly (but not really) forgotten. If we had to rememberl all the inner information we are privy to, then we wouldn't even know what century it was, or who was our mother in this lifetime compared to another lifetime. We need the focus we have in order to life in physical reality.
The horrors and tragedies of death are only illusions that make our physical lives so vibrant and full of joys and pains...necessary experiences we must undergo in order to fulfill our purposes...the reasons we chose to be born. This does not mean that we are all tied into some kind of fate which was chosen before we were born. The present is always the point of power...and we can always make new decisions and choices along the way which alter those choices we made before coming into this world.
But, it must be remembered, that besides the conscious choices we make while deeply embedded in the physical world...we are still constantly making seemingly subconscious choices (subconscious to our conscious lives) from realms in which we do fully understand that death and time are illusions. While we "visit" or become conscious in these invisible realms, we are fully conscious of what we see and do and choose. It is only when we leave these realms and focus again solely on the physical world, that these inner decisions and experiences fade back into our subconscious minds, Yet, they still do come to our physical consciousness--but as stray thoughts, dreams, coincidences, vague memories, intuitions or psychic experiences.
So, yes, we choose this life (family, "deformities," diseases, looks); and we choose the exact time and circumstances of our death...as did the loved ones we seemingly "lost". But we do all this with full knowlege that death is an illusion and the timeless universe we actually reside in (and often visit while physical) is one of joyfulness and playfulness. We know the universe is as playful as a kitten playing with a string; yet, we forget in order to experience the wide-range of emotions our spirit-selves need--and which was why we chose to make ourselves physical in the first place.
This is why in after-death communications (ADCs) we are always told everything is fine.
Questions from Scott McInnes (scott@mac.email.ne.jp):
Was Jane as intelligent as Seth? The books' material "blew me away" not only on content but how they were written. Pure genious.
Barrie: I don't know how qualified I am to judge and compare intelligences of people except in cases when there are blaring differences that even a Republican can be correct in making the assessment. Besides that, it is difficult or impossible (for me) to compare the "intelligence" of a 3-D fleshy (albeit thin) person enmeshed in the camouflage and relative shortcomings of physical reality to that of a body-less being who is consciously aware of many more dimensions of realities than that in which we put our canoe in to get across the lake. Now, if that's not wordy and complicated enough for you, I don't know what is.
Anyway, I don't think you can cross-compare intelligences like that. But I will say that Jane (as far as human beings eating popcorn on the planet go) was extremely intelligent, sharp, bright, funny, caring, insecure, confused, wounded, and very loving. On top of that, she could open a can of tuna fish.
I'd like to see Seth try that one.
Scott's Next Question: Initially, what made you attend the sessions? Your friends?
Barrie: My friends (the New York Boys in the Seth books) had been into a guru-type guy named Francois who was really negative and full of fearful dogma and instruction about the universe. I felt he was all wrong and so I never got involved with the whole Francois-Gnosis thing...altho I really liked and was moved by many key points in the books they had to read (Hero With A Thousand Faces by Joseph Campbell; The Gnosis: Hidden Wisdom in the Christian Scriptures by William Kingsland; and the philosophies of Carl Jung). But...I hated the Francois secretive, fearful, guru-ish, elitist, etc., slant he put on everything...and I constantly argued many of Francois' points with my friends...Dickie, Ricky, Davidson, and others.
It was Francois who first heard of Jane, and he spoke to her on the phone. Jane had the good sense to refuse to allow him to come to class and then he died of a heart attack. His "followers" who were to become the "New York boys" eventually spoke to Jane...and she allowed them to come up. Soon afterwards, Dickie (Richard Kendall) walking on eggshells (or speaking on eggshells to mix metaphors) broached the subject of the Seth classes with me.
He showed me a typewritten thing about something and asked what I thought of it. It was fine and interesting, I told him. I liked it. He then told me that this lady named Jane wrote it, said some stuff about Seth, and asked if I'd like to go up to a class. The idea sounded great. Everything he said about Jane & Seth was NOTHING like the Francois insanity...and so I agreed to go.
Scott's Next Question: What and how long did it take you to become a "believer"?
Barrie: Being a "believer," like the idea of perfection, is in a continual state of becoming. I did not "become" a believer. As information came (and still comes) to me I either accepted it, rejected it, or put it on hold. Most of the Seth stuff simply rang true as I kept digging into it. Certain things just made sense to me on inner levels...about death, karma, time, compassion, sex, bodies, thoughts, beliefs, cellular memory, spiritual biology, etc.
I never simply "believed" something because Seth said it. It had to ring true in me. Seth...like anyone...is not a perfect being...and had to word his belief system thru the filters and vocabulary of Jane's belief system. I took into consideration what Seth's philosophy is/was as I would yours. If you told me something, and it rang true, I'd say, "Yeah, that's right." Same with Seth. I must say, tho, he sure did have a lot of great things and viewpoints to discuss; and many innovative thoughts to bathe in and enjoy...many of which seemed to spring solely from him...with no buds or sprouts in any other philosophies I had read.
Scott's Next Question: Didn't you miss a lot of the impact on the info hearing it only verbally (with distracting pauses, classroom noises, etc?)
Barrie: I don't understand what you mean..."hearing it only verbally"? How else can I "hear" it?...unless I think it. And, compared to what or to whom? "Hearing it only verbally" compared to reading Seth's books? Compared to having Seth come thru me like he did Jane?
Talking to or listening to somebody face-to-face is certainly not distracting. How else can you hear a person talk but with pauses? As you know, humans do not need some kind of vacuum of silence in order to follow what somebody is saying. In fact, sound does not carry in a vacuum. Regardless of the way that Seth's ideas come to you...if you are open to them...they have a great impact.
Scott's Next Question: Did you ever suspect she might be a fake?
Barrie: Nothing she ever did in my personal interactions with her (in class or in conversation) had enough motivation in it for to "be a fake" or for me to ask myself that question. Initially, I knew I had to see and assess for myself what was going on...if I believed in what was happening or not. Short of being an out-and-out fake, it could have been that I did not believe her, altho i believed that she was sincere.
In either case, nothing even struck me as fake or phony. Nothing she did or said (except existing) was self-serving. She did not need the class in order to sell books. She did not persue fame or fortune. What was there to gain by being a fake? Only selling books...and she could do that without the class.
Are you a fake? Why should I think that? Your letter and questions sound sincere and "real." The same with Jane.
Anyway, witnessing what Seth said and how he said it...the words, the pauses, the insights, the humor...if that was fake, then screw what's real. Same thing with the books. I really didn't care what the "true source" was (altho I believe it was Seth as Jane/Seth explains it)...but I really didn't care because the information was so fascinating. If she got it from her unconscious, from a chipmonk, from a fire hydrant, or from a hobo who lived on the corner...it still rang true and had meaning; it still was breakthru material I heard no where else; and it still was very helpful and positive...turning me towards myself for the answers...not towards anyone or anything else...that I "needed" in order to get "the" truth.
