Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 10:56:54 -0700
From: ernesthancock@inficad.com ("Ernest Hancock")
Subject: Re: [lpaz-govcom] Re: Jay Walsh
To: lpaz-govcom@yahoogroups.com
Reply-To: lpaz-govcom@yahoogroups.com
>Look guys, if you don't want Jay on the GovCom, almost certainly all
>I have to do is keep my mouth shut about it and it won't happen. I
>am capable of doing that, y'know. That's why I asked about it here,
>instead of just going to Jay and asking him to show up at the next
>GovCom meeting. If you guys are going to demand oaths in blood, we
>might as well just forget it.
>
>--Jason Auvenshine
Jason,
Prior to the Schmorg invation the only one of us that gave a shit about the
bylaws and statutes were Kathy Harrer (because she had to file all of the
paperwork with the state - then Bob Anderson until he got sued) and Tim
McDermott when we had conventions and some disagreement needed the bible
brought out to help make a determination.
Now we have to disect everything or risk a series of lawsuits. Wanting Jay
or not is not even the point anymore.
Ooooh, I remember the good old days when we were able to act as a private
organization without threat of statist state actions.
Jason, you are of the opinion that should Peter prevail and supporters of
ALP just jumped back into personal activism that all would be well (aside
from the fact that the Libertarian Party in Arizona would have lost its soul
reasons for exsistance the second public monies started funding campaigns).
You are wrong! Once the party becomes a vehicle for access to large amounts
of public money then Peter's worst nightmare will begin,... he'll have
another Peter to contend with. Likely it will be one or two from his own
inner circle.
After the appeal process, we will have documented the efforts and
motivations of the Schmorg and their mother planet, LPUS. What happens then
will be a reenactment of uncounted simular attempts at assimulation of a
free minded people.
The end is already known,... freedom wins everytime after a costly
engagement, no matter what Peter, you or a judge says. Knowing this I act
accordingly. I place my house in order in a manner that will benefit from
the final outcome. I choose freedom and those that have made the same
choice.
5 days ago I spoke to the Brophy Prep Young Libertarians Club. "Why are you
in the Young Libertarians Club"? was my first question. Of the dozen or so
there only one had a response. He didn't like the government saying he had
to wear a seatbelt. But the same guy wanted to know what the governments
role should be in preventing large businesses from running small businesses
out of business with low prices of keys products at or even below cost.
In 40 mins. I had no chance of doing any more than inform them of the truth
about where freedom stances in politics stood against the promise of more
government from the R's and D's. They didn't want to hear about how few
libertarians there are but that our ideas are moving the center towards a
more free society. That Libertarians do not seek dominion over others and
that our goals are to be more free above getting elected. Will there be more
or less enthusiasim for this club by these guys? Likely less. These young
strong males of white parents that can afford to pay the tuition of this
high priced private school have not likely been stopped by police for being
of the wrong skin color or because a "tail light" was out. They are too
young to witness pain and suffering of a loved one because medicine that
would help has not been approved by his caring and loving Big Brother
government. They have yet to have their future large salary go to pay for
government's demands for at least 5 out of 12 months of work before they
reach tax freedom day. These kids are looking for acceptance and popularity
and influence and respect and recognition. And all of these things at best
is a side effect of being a moral person over a long period of time. The
morality of libertarianism is clear and simple but without immediate rewards
for a young mind that has yet to experience the consequences of his and
other's immorality of using government force to enact his will when not in
defense of his individual rights.
It takes years of real world experience to understand just what is an
individual right and lose the illusions that have been propagandized by the
government, media, school systems and even many churches, that a need
constitutes a right. A "right" to health care, a profit, an education never
means that you can force others to provide it for you without then violating
their individual rights.
Jason,
These simple truths apply to you on many levels. You have yet to reach
(IMHO) the frame of mind that, Freedom is the answer to any question. Your
goal has clearly been more about vote totals, popularity, immediate respect
(which more often is fear) and influence. These are not the goals of a
mature healthy mind that has enough self-esteem to do the things he knows
are right,... if for no other reason, because he knows that freedom is
always the right path with far less pain.
I do wish you luck in your efforts to turn ALP, Inc. toward the light and
guide others out of the dark and will help you as much as I can. But what
you are doing is not the same as one of us registering Democrat or
Republican and infecting them with freedom from within without our
advocating government control. You are allowing your message to be infected
with direct participation and endorsement of the use of Public money for
campaigns.
The public awareness of Libertarians taking tax money to run their campaigns
will be the starting gun for many to leave to pursue their own pure
libertarian activities without the burden of having to make excuses for what
may one day be recognized as the Libertarian Party. As it is now the Arizona
Libertarian Party has been a true light to the rest of the country and the
world for our purity AND comparitive effectiveness. Arizona didn't become
the most influencial libertarian movement in the country through compromise
and seeking government handouts.
So go and do your best to remove their Borg implants that make them part of
a collective. But your implants will be very obvious to everyone if you
allow public monies into campaigns without active resistance and eventual
resignation.
Ernie
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